May 31, 2022 • 40 mins
Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington double down on their criticism of Drew Brees after fan boys come to his defense. Business Boomin’ for Antonio Brown but is he a Hall of Famer? Plus, a recap of Memorial Day Weekend on the FSR IR.
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you doing so. We'll take you all the way U
until nine am Eastern times six o'clock Pacific. What's this
in reference to your birthday? Birthday too? Oh? I just
watched the show crying crying. What something? I just watched
that other good? Yeah, it was pretty good. It was entertained.
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I mean, Clinton as old as hell man kind of
suck it, did. I just didn't want to say it
because it's Clint East would though. I mean, there has
some sentimental value, and that's a good sentimental Let's be real.
Basically your comments about Drew Brees that what's a good resurface? Yeah, okay,
I get caught friendly fire this whole thing? Oh is
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that what? Yeah? Okay, I'll put it this way. Someone
put my face something with yours. But it wasn't my quote,
and I'm like, well, I'd love to take credit for
but I didn't say. Um. So here's for those people
that are not familiar with this. It's Jonas's birthday. Happy
birthday to yeah, happy birthday, Happy day day doing happy birthday?
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Do hey Jonas kwandos anios no idea. I was going to, Yeah,
that's what I was gonna say. How do you know that? Yeah,
but I didn't know what I was saying, so it
might have been incorrect, might have dumped. If you want
proper Spanish, you come to lav R and I not Burda.
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We know our stuff here? What is it? Quandos annual
scomplis how old are you? His birthday? His birthday? How
do you say how do you say twenty four? In
uh Spanish? How do you say that? Squadro is no
mo miss ha ha. He just dumped himself just to
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get a joke on the air. But is a trip
that so LaVar LaVar mentioned this last week and we
didn't know about some of the heat you were getting.
And then all of a sudden, on Friday, the New
York Post had had an article yeah about you guys,
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uh comments about Drew Brees, And I'm thinking to myself,
first of all, why is the New York Post okay,
which is supposed to be a reputable source of news,
just now coming up with a news story about that? Yeah,
like three I think it was like three weeks. It's
a long time. And I don't I can't even respond
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and defend myself because I don't even remember it. I
don't would even remember what I said, and I don't
care enough to go back and listen to it. It was.
It wasn't even like a major topic that day. I
don't think I wasn't attacking Drew Brees. I was just
callings who cares? Man, Well, these sensitive fan bases. Hold on,
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let's let's be real, all right. The quotes of the quotes.
I'm not gonna walk back anything. That was not walking
back and I'm not walking back anything. Um. I will
say this. I didn't talk to a couple of guys
who had asked me about it. They're like, yeah, that's
pretty much how people feel about them. I was like,
oh god, okay. Like I was like, well, look, I
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don't necessarily feel that way. I said, you know, it
wasn't what I said. No, I didn't disagree with it.
I just said, look if if the NBC Sports doesn't
want him and it doesn't seem like the Saints won him,
I said, it's a tough pill to swallow for a
first ballot Hall of Famer, was what I said. And
it is like, there's nothing that's that's changed from that aspect.
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It's not taking away from what he did in his career.
Called him the first ballot Hall of Famer, but the
reality is that TVs just as tough, if not a
tougher business. I mean, think about it. Joe Montana. Joe
Montana was viewed just the greatest of all time before
tom Brady even got there, couldn't do it. And and
the same thing, like people were critical of him, There's
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been plenty of others in category, Jamis Smith, Jerry Rice.
I mean, guys just didn't do well in the boot.
But here's the thing. Bruce arians had one year. And
here's the thing is I'm not gonna say Bruce was
gonna be great. He just couldn't be on that Patsy
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Becuss he would be. Yeah. I just I just think
that when when you say the market has spoken, you know,
we were basing the conversation off of Tom Brady already
having a gig, a gig that Drew Brees would probably
want or feel like he should have. That's I think
that that's the premise of where the whole conversation came from.
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And and and to get upset that I said, he's
not as loved as he thinks thinks he is, like
they don't. He's not on on tom Brady's level that way.
It's just not it's not even it's not closed. So
if you want to get offended and make it about
you know, like people have death threaded my parents, they've
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death threaded my my kids like this, let me tell
you something, you like, you really got something, And I
guess it's just simple to say and see like people
really have nothing better to do with their time then
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that like you we're talking it's sports in the end,
it's we're talking sports, and it just is I found
it to be kind of I don't know. I mean,
here's what's weird is people are so quick to defend
people they don't actually know, Like they're so quick to
defend public figures and so forth in like the weirdest
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ways and even make death threats apparently, And it's like,
I don't I could never do that, even even to
defend probably someone I know, let alone someone I don't know.
That's what's more surprised than me. It was, like, what
all comes with it? It's it's the hero worshiping fanboy
crap like and that people go to that extent because
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of commentary. And by the way, Drew Brees did this
to himself when he sent out that he can talking
about me getting fine for passive aggressiveness that tweet he
sent out where he's not you know, maybe I'll come
as well. It's like, dude, like, what what's the problem here.
I mean, like, like especially once, it was a Naucias
Sholder surgery, so he wouldn't be ready until potentially into
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the season. So he's like, he's like stoke in the
fire and there's there's no fire. He's not he can't play.
He's just understand. It was no different than when he
sent out the workout video. Remember he was coming back, Yeah,
Todd Durk and his trainer was like, you know, pump
the video out, what do that sort of speculation, it's
no different than that, you know, trying to kind of
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fuel that up. And I don't know if this is
based on Look, tom Brady did you know kind of
similar stuff, has done similar stuff. He's still playing though,
and he's Tom Brady, right, I mean, let's just be
clear here, and he's Tom Brady. It's not gonna hit
the same. And so for all the Drew Brees apologists
out there that are probably listening right now to be
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able to say they hate hate me or whatever. You
can hate me all you want, it doesn't change what
what it is. Like. He's not going to get a
contract offered like what Tom Brady has received. He's not
gonna be running in the same circles that Tom Brady
is running in. As it applies to this, the market
has spoken. And if if you guys want to direct
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your hate directed towards the people that are gonna do
it like be so influential or impactful that Drew Brees
gets that thirty million dollar offer or a hundred million
dollar offer, whatever it is, and and then they put
him on air because there are so many of you
that what do you guys say? So, well, here we go.
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If you're that good of a ball washer, then get
Drew Brees where he's supposed to be. By the way,
if you're come at me, you don't get mad at me,
because I'm just telling you what it is. If you're
a Saints fan and you want to get pissy about something,
get pissy about that call in the NFC title game,
all right, and then that Drew Brees throwing the pick
in overtime. If you want to get pissy about something
post career as a member of the media, which was
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which was a flop after one year, and and and
people are getting death threats over commenting on it. What
are we doing here? Let me just say this to
it all. You know, when you look at the deal
that Tom Brady got it. I mean, you could have
made the case that maybe that's what Drew we should
have done. He should have tried to have those discussions
while he was still playing, before he left, and then
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you can leverage that. But you can only leverage you
know what you're doing while you're still playing. To a
certain degree. What what Tom Brady did is the same
thing tom Tony Romo did. He found a network that
was in a bind that was that was win a pinch.
CBS when Tony Romo negotiated that deal was heading into
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a super Bowl. They had to have their guy. They
had to have that lightning run. And Tony Romo came
in as a broadcaster, very polarizing. Some people loved him,
some people didn't like. Whatever the case was, it was polarizing,
and so it garnered attention and it gave them a
lot more credibility when they had a guy who's been
a pro bowler, who played for Dallas and all of
that as their number one guy. And so he sees
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that opportunity. Tom Brady sees that opportunity with with Fox Sports.
True Aikman left. He left to go to ESPN to
go take over Monday FOOTBA with Joe Buck. They had
a void there and they're saying to themselves, you know,
what can we do to make up for this loss?
Let's go sign and announced a deal for a guy
who's not even gonna be here this year. He's not
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even gonna be calling games, Like Fox has the super
Bowl this year, Todd Brady's probably now he might be
a part of it if he's not playing, but he's
not calling it. He's playing. He's playing football. So you know,
he sees that opportunity where he found a network that
was in need, that needed to make a splash, and
he made a splash, like he he figured it out.
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So you know that's the other portion of all this too,
is you know, Drew Brees doesn't find himself, at least
in the broadcasting world, with that same opportunity, and so
even if he was going to try to sign some big, huge,
mega deal, it's harder because he's like, what's the market
who's he negotiating with? Now? Like all the cards are set.
If he wants to go to Fox, so be it.
But you know they're they're still eventually winning for Tom
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Brady to come work for them right, CBS has their guy,
Amazon's got a Kirk Herbster. You know, you've got ESPN
now with with Troy but Joe Buck so he's he'd
have to go right back to the place he's at
and Tris callswhoth is still in that spot. So it's
just the reality of the situation. Like I know, people
get frustrated by that because they're excited about you know,
Drew Brees, you know, take it over and all that.
But I just it's crazy to be how people don't
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look at it and say they utilize the leverage they had,
like they seize that opportunity, and I don't know that
there is that same opportunity for Drew right now. And
by the way, Breeze agreed to the deal with NBC,
I think before he signed his final two year extension
with the Saints, so he had all the time in
the world to prepare get ready for his post career
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and it just didn't work out. And then now he's, uh,
you know, putting out workout videos and putting it out
to tweets of all the different options he has and
it just it just it's a weird ending to a
great career and a weird reaction to simple commentary that
that that to me just seemed like it was pretty obvious. Um,
But apparently to the New York Post, we run with
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a two week old stories and trying to throw them
out to try and get get a little bit of attention.
So dynamite job im over there. Well, hey, I mean
it is what I mean. Look, it's a slow time
of year. Maybe they picked it up because they heard
la Arts, maybe they're listeners to the show, and they
looked looked into it a little bit deeper, and that's
what brought up the article, which is continue to give
it more life. And I'll be honest with you. I
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saw LaVar's face on there, and I thought to myself,
I'm gonna get hit with some collateral damage. He did,
Oh I did, I got I got all kinds of
people shooting them. Not me though, not me just just
sitting by, just sitting watching it all. It's just funny
to me. It has to have some validity to it.
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And again, why would we not one thing about this show.
We shoot our shots, and when we shoot our shots,
we give commentary, we give perspective, and it comes from
a very real place. I mean whether we're joking at
times or whatever, it was a good enough take where
people took notice of it and either wanted to defend it,
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but they wrote it, they talked about it, They kept
putting it out there. You know why, because it's a
debatable topic. No matter what side you fall on it,
it's a debatable topic. And the you guys just laid
out the facts of the situation. You like you laid
out the information that doesn't lie. That the information doesn't lie.
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Where's Drew Brees? Answer me there before we go to brick.
Where is Drew Brees going to be next season? What
is he going to be doing that? Do any of
us know? Well, I'm gonna say that he won't be
doing TV because he was awful at it his first year.
So I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with no TV,
no TV and no tvka what about you, Brady tv Um.
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I think he'll be doing TV for someone. I don't
know if it's for NBC or if it's local. Yah.
Is he gonna be going local? Maybe like Fox on
My Big ESPN? Yeah? No, what not not ESPN? I
mean it would be Fox or NBC. Are you one
of those two. Okay, radio, is he doing radio? Is
he is he doing football? What was he doing? Is
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he playing football? I don't believe, so I don't think well,
although I held the reports to say that Jamis Winston
has a noticeable limp quote unquote at practice, I'm just
you know, so maybe maybe there is an option for him.
You know, he kind of had that as his swag though.
He walks as long as he's Some guys have, like
some some reporters that're be like, oh man, he walked
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with the limp. You're like, no, man, it's just the
way he walks. He's gonna suck his toes after a win,
you know, you know, he's gonna make that toe, those
toes into a W and he's gonna eat the W
when they want in the hell. By the way, Rex
Ryan just turned the radio up so loud. I mean
that was like he just made his morning. Maybe how
to get picked up out of New York Post too, Yeah,
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three one. Antonio Brown has made a statement. Uh, he
has made a statement. Uh this is uh, you know
his his bitness booming rap career. He was talking with
on fubos button. Well, you're not go ahead the button
on bit it booming? Thank you said bitness movement. No
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side the way you would say it business booming, thank you,
thank you, Johnson, thank you. You're not gonna put it
is in the business is booming? Isn't movement? He was
talking with Fubo Sports about where he's at in his career.
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This was a b Is football still important to you?
What you say? Obviously you know we live the game,
but you can't play forever. I think I'm a great player,
that everything in the game. We're gonna see you playing
next season. No, don't play yourself looking at me to play,
all right? So there it is to Brown, all his decision.
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He's calling the shots in his career. This is all
his decision, and that's the reason why he's not playing
next year and I'm proud of him. It's not that
nobody else wants to touch him or go near him,
or the fact that he's alienated multiple franchises now during
the during his career and by the way, has defecated
away his Hall of Fame chances. Those are done as
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well too. This is all his decision. Antonio Brown not
playing next year. I buy it. I'm in, So don't
play yourself, guys. Just words of a wisdom from Antonio Brown.
It is sad that he had, you know, a run
that you would say his career was Hall of Fame worthy.
You know, definitely that for the six year period. And
it's just everything's changed so fast over the past few years. Um.
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And by the way, the crazy thing about it is,
it's like we had a lot of other distractions too,
Like we had a lot of other things we could
have talked about. I mean, obviously went through COVID for
really a year, a couple of years, you know, Tom
Brady retired, than did the speculation of Aaron Rodgers. I mean,
there's been so many other storylines in the NFL that
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we could have or at times talked about, or maybe
even should have overshadowed Antonio Brown, but his behavior was
so bizarre that it literally for like weeks. I mean, LaVar,
I remember one time you were like, dude, I'm tired
of talking about this dude, Like literally we're still we
were still talking about him, and you're like, what is
with this? I mean, we didn't do this show together
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back when he was you know, burning his feet off
in a cryode chamber, or couldn't find the right helmet,
whatever other thing you want to talk about. When Tom
Brady threw him a touchdown pass in Miami Week one,
like three or four years ago, like we were doing
the show together, I could only imagine how exhaustin LaVar
would be had that also been a part of our discussions.
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But that's what's crazy to me, is he really he
really was? If this is it that kind of player
that he's Hall of Fame worthy, and yet because of
all the other crap out around him, he might not
make it in. And it's it's a crying shame. It's terrible.
And even now to the point where like he feels
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the need to say, oh, yeah, I'm the one calling quits,
no man, like maybe someone will give you a call
to season all that, But people are so scared after
what he did you know in New York, that he's
gonna do the same thing to them. I mean it's
getting to the point now where for you know, Pittsburgh
to Las Vegas, uh, to the New England and now
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to Tampa and then and everyone's kind of saying, Okay,
fool me once, all right, shame on you for me twice,
shame on me right, And now everyone's already watched her,
going yeah, I'm not signing up for that, like just
just not worth it, just not worth it. And it's
crazy to think about that, considering everything that's gone on
and and just how good of a player, uh he was.
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Maybe even when he's healthy, still is to a degree,
I think he'll still go into the Hall of Fame. Really, yeah,
I do. I don't think he I mean, if you
look at some of the resumes of some of the
people that made it in the Hall of Fame, I mean,
some of these guys are not perfect by any stretch
of the imagination. Now, I don't think that he is
considered to be one of those first ballot to early
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early ballot Hall of Famers. I think it will take
some time, but it you know, time passes on and
people lose the intensity of of their field links towards
some of the antics that players may have had during
during a time where they I guess we're paid attention to,
or relevant enough to be paid attention to. So I
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think he'll still end up going into the Hall of Fame.
I think the bigger the bigger conversation for me is
I just think that it's it's kind of a shame
that that he would allow for something like nobody really knew.
Like there were conversations about a b and and how
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he handled things and how his personality was um in
the locker room. And and that's because you know, I
mean full of disclosure. I mean, Ryan Clark was a
teammate of mine. UM, me and me and AB had
the same barber, and so there were conversations as to
you know, kind of his his personality and and and
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you know, it wasn't it wasn't like people said he
was a bad person. It just was interesting. I'll say.
People would say, it's interesting the Facebook live video that
he was filming the locker room, Tom, why would you
do that? Yeah, I mean, he's done questionable things. I
just think that for him to have the type of
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career that he he's had, and and for the most
part of it that he was obscure in terms of
his personality. You know, people didn't really get to know
him until after he would have been in the in
the league for quite some time. And so for it
to turn into now the conversation actually is more about
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his character and his conduct versus his career as a player.
I just think that that's unfortunate, because you when you
have that type of success and and you've overcome the
things that he's overcome to to climb to the heights
he's climbed to, you want to you want to celebrate
people like that, you know, you want to have the
ability to, you know, watch them go around and give
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motivational speeches and and and inspire people like That's the
type of career he had. That people model their games
and they model who they are after people like Antonio Brown.
It's just unfortunate that, you know, for one reason or another,
you know, he allowed himself to kind of get off
of the track that got him to the success or
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maybe it just became more evident or more covered, you know,
maybe I don't know, I don't want to speak for him,
but it's just it's just unfortunate that this is now
the narrative, this is the overwhelming narrative that surrounds Antonio Brown.
Listen to these numbers, um, hundred and fourteen catches, undred
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and twenty four yards, eleven touchdowns. Those are his averages
over that six year span that Brady talked about. It
really is absurd when you look at the numbers, just
that right there. He he had over nine thousand yards
receiving in a six year span and what is he
five ten? I mean he was, like, he said something
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on the I Am Athlete podcast, something to the effect
of he did a crazy, crazy deal after just playing
for one year, like still like the youngest guy to
do a contract that big, or something to that effect.
I don't I don't know the exact what what lingo
of it, but I mean the dude was special. And
you know the other thing we've always heard about him
(25:27):
works his asshole workout warrior. Everybody, Belichick, Brady, Tomlin, Roth's everybody.
You said, you'll never Bruce Arians, You'll never find a
guy who works out harder. And so he trained down
at Pete bomb Aritos down down in Miami, and so
I'd go down there, and I remember this is early
on his career, go work out some of those guys
John Beason, Tonio, Brownie B. But he would say, hey,
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did you want to throw some routes to me? And
I'll never forget, like you could not if it was
normally a seventh step drop to throw them most wide receivers,
you had to do a big five, like you had
to change your drop to his speed and how fast
he was getting in and out of cuts, because he
had that sort of explosiveness and he was like that
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fast rolling on an in cut or getting out of
his comeback or rolling on a speed out whatever was
he just had, like or his bang eight. Like the
way he would be able to just literally get up
the top speed and change direction but maintain that speed
was unparalleled. Like I never ever had an issue with
with really anyone outside of you know that going wow,
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I literally have to change my drop, like this dude
is a dude. You have to change what you do
to be able to, you know, facilitate what he can
do because it's so special. If he just if he
went somewhere and just played nice for a year or two,
he's a Hall of Famer, Like, no, but I just
I don't think it's happens the first ballot you got.
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You gotta put it in context, right, Like he's a
first ballot Hall of Fame, Like how many Pro Bowls
did he have? How many Pro bits? A lot of them?
Seven time Pro Bowler, four time All Pro, first Team
All Pro um. Yeah, there's like there's like a Super
Bowl Tampa. There are first ballot Hall of famers that
had way lesser of of a resume than Antonio Brown,
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way lesser. So I mean that's just he takes himself
out of the conversation of being admired and revered by
certain decision makers, voters, so to speak, the media. I mean,
he's just been a he's been a total buzz kill.
And and you know, I don't know what for. I
don't know what his ultimate end was or his ultimate goal.
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Maybe he got caught into, you know, a pattern that
he's not proud of or didn't want to be a
part of. Maybe it's for the culture. Maybe maybe he's
doing things that you know, he felt pushed culture for him.
But you know, there are some things along the way
in his resume that have nothing to do with culture,
and it's not positive and and it wasn't you know,
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it just wasn't something that should happen. And so when
you start to get into those arenas, you start getting
in those avenues of that's the discussion points that are
surrounding you, it's just sad, man. It's it's sad that
that becomes a part of what your legacy is going
to be. I I hope I hope that he gets
ahold of of what it is, that the true reality
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of what he wants himself to be represented as. I
hope I hope he really, you know, like starts to
dial it in and say, look, there was a moment
in time where I could have done better. I could
have been better. He's played a few more games in
Calvin Johnson, but his numbers are better than Calvin Johnson's.
I mean, he's got about all the pros, he's got
it just and and yet here's the conversation we're having.
(28:52):
It's sad. I don't I just don't understand. Do we
have his song? I want to listen to it this
kind of woman? Yeah, it's yeah, So we we are
gonna have Antonio Brown, Do we have it in the
system or should Uh, all right, so we will get
that in the system. We're aftening that. Lee's actually making
a couple of calls on that, Brady. So Lee's always
(29:12):
you got to get that release to use that. You know,
that's a b I thought you could play it, Jonas wins.
I thought you could play it for like a short
amount of time. Yeah, you can like ten seconds well,
and also you only want to play for a short
amount of time because it's so bad that you don't
want to hear it for that one. You don't like music.
You don't like a lot of people's songs. Come on, man,
(29:34):
a lot of people are pouring their heart out and
Jonas just tramples on them. This is his birthdays allowed,
so it is he's pouring his heart out and those
those tracks for certain Yeah, he really is putting his
heart and soul into them tracks. Man, happy birthday, and
I appreciate it. Now the hashtag no more white women,
(29:54):
where does that rank? And as credentials, I'm looking at
a football reference. Uh read white women not not not
next day According to him, I'm just going to stay
away from that one because I'm still fresh off of
this Drew Brees cancel culture. I don't know I can
handle Drew Brees cancer. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, are here,
(30:20):
come to bars? Hold on, here we go, Here we go,
here we go? What else? Ran up? Bill? Yeah, I
ran up the field. Got money, Yeah, I gotta get
my money. He was running to get his money. Yeah,
he's running to the mills. Excuse me, my yeah, millions
and my billions. I'm yeah, I'm a great influence. Get stuff, dude.
(30:45):
Oh wow, don't listen to blogs. How do you listen
to a blog or blogs? Still a thing? I don't
know the blogs. Blogs. It's like saying, don't listen to
the newspaper. I mean, he was addressing this haters like
you're shaking him off, booming millions. We got millions in
(31:05):
his billions. First ballot hall of Famer gone, that's gone
because that song. No, not no, not even probably before
you just did you change your opinion just because the song? No,
I said, he's not going to be a first ballot
hall of fame. That that's that's he's going to get in.
If he didn't make the song, would be uh yeah,
(31:28):
he would still get in. But you know, but I
think that the voters are going to look at bed
and booming and and I think they're just going to
be offended. I think they're gonna be tremendously offended by
the song and and I think that it's going to
have a very very, very uh negative impact on Yeah,
(31:48):
I'm joking, all right, some of you, some of y'all
don't know when when jokes are jokes, right, I'm joking
at a cup of joe, all right, So we are
going to have another addition to a uh speaking of business,
millions and billions, let's turn it over to the great
Eddie Garcia. I'm still trying to recover from listening to
the garbage Steeler. Eddie, that should be a Hall of Famer?
(32:14):
Is he the greatest? Is the wide receiver? You've seen
the Pittsburgh goes in as a Pittsburgh. Yes, what's crazy?
Is he probably the greatest wide receiver to play? Who's
been better? Take Lewis lips over here. I love Louis
Lips Love Louis lips Lin. Swan is the greatest in
the history of his eyebrows. Louis sure, you know you
(32:38):
got heinz Wart, you know, But anyways, burn your thoughts
on the wide receiver for the Lewis's that's what is
Lewis is? Yeah, Louise, why is it? Louise? Okay? Can
you hit the button on LaVar? It's gotta be Louise,
you know, thank you. That's how it's spelled. That's how
(33:02):
it's spelled. My in laws listening to this show, they'd
be piste right now. Oh my gosh, that's how you
spell it. Spell it, spell Louise. I don't want to
spell it because you don't know how, you know, I can't.
All right, all right, Eddie, that's that's that's all right,
Louise lips. Aren't you good? What did Eddie? I am? Okay?
(33:26):
Thank you? You know. What's uh, what's what's really exciting
is the NBA Finals if they if they played apparently
they're not going to play until Thursday, and then they're
not gonna play until Sunday. They trying to get the
Celtics time. Yeah, you know, got it, got a milk,
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long weekend? Who's got some issues they'd like to report?
(35:59):
Who's got who wants to go first to first? Can't
the birthday? Boy? Yeah? How does work out for you? Not? Well?
I realized I don't need a lot of bread. So
like I can I do steaks. I just don't let
me explain. So I do steaks, chicken, shrimp, things like that.
I like grilling. It's fun. I enjoy it. And then
(36:21):
I realized yesterday I don't know how to make hamburgers
like I have no I've never done it before, I know.
And then so I I put it on the grill
and I, you know, I failed to realize. Not that
they just shrunk up so much that they look like sausages. Yeah,
they turned into sliders. They turned into like little Hamburger
(36:45):
sliders as opposed to what I was trying to go for.
So not not my best performance. But yeah, it's a
it's a terrible embarrassing to you. I don't really have anything, man,
it was pretty low cute hanging out with the fam
that that's not true. Call him out, calling out the
torrential downpour that was that was going on. Brady left
(37:08):
me a message and you would have thought he was
in the middle of the Amazon. Well all right, I
mean full disclosure. I did lose a pair of sunglasses,
um while I was out on the water this weekend,
which it happens like every single time. I would my
father in law and mother in law bought a pair
of sunglasses for me. I don't think they made it
past a month. They're ray bands. Yeah they're nice, but
(37:31):
I feel tilsy about it. Well, no, because I was
I was docking the boat by myself, so I was
like more pre occupied with the boat as opposed to sunglasses.
But I bet I was bent over the side right
off they dropped off, and I was like, man, I
can try to go after the sunglasses, but then I
could risk like the boat crash into something. I was like,
probably makes more sense to what the sunglasses it is.
(37:54):
I do need some croakes though, like that, But that's
one thing that like, I don't think you can wear
crokeys with ray bands. Can what's the footage on that boat?
What is a croakey? Croakey is the thing people were
on the back of their neck that attaches to their sun.
That makes you old, that takes you to the old, right,
And I feel like you have a certain like type
(38:15):
of sunglass like a Mauie jim or or something to
wear those, Yeah, you can't, Like, you can't have you
can have deviator sunglasses on with with crokes. What's the
footage on the boat. Yea, what's the footage on that boat?
We're not talking about my boat, alright. I don't need
to know the maker name of it. I just want
to know the footage. I'm talking about this. Why are
(38:39):
you projecting? I'm not projected yacht I was just as kid. Yeah,
it's beyond forty. That's why he doesn't want to sell it.
It's not it's right, it's right there. Trust me, I
would not be driving a boat that was that big.
Wants to be a good sound system, Yeah, that's fine.
What do you it's a it's a good family boat. Nice.
(39:00):
What do you guys listen to on that on the boat?
I was gonna say after this, what is considered yacht rock?
I don't know. I just know it's it's it's like
a certain like. It's not Jimmy Buffett. I know that's
like Bruce Springsteing and Jimmy Buffett was at the heat game.
Do you see that, Jimmy Buffett? I mean, come on, man,
(39:22):
well I'm just thinking like, yeahs Lafar gonna get off
Scott free from amoral. Yes to report, I mean against
we're up against it. Not that it's not enough time
come on, Leonard Skinner, you know that's that's yea rock. Okay,
what about what about your weekend? Alright? What about it? Yeah?
(39:45):
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(01:04):
you doing so. We'll take you all the way U
until nine am Eastern times six o'clock Pacific. What's this
in reference to your birthday? Birthday too? Oh? I just
watched the show crying crying. What something? I just watched
that other good? Yeah, it was pretty good. It was entertained.
(01:25):
I mean, Clinton as old as hell man kind of
suck it, did. I just didn't want to say it
because it's Clint East would though. I mean, there has
some sentimental value, and that's a good sentimental Let's be real.
Basically your comments about Drew Brees that what's a good resurface? Yeah, okay,
I get caught friendly fire this whole thing? Oh is
(01:49):
that what? Yeah? Okay, I'll put it this way. Someone
put my face something with yours. But it wasn't my quote,
and I'm like, well, I'd love to take credit for
but I didn't say. Um. So here's for those people
that are not familiar with this. It's Jonas's birthday. Happy
birthday to yeah, happy birthday, Happy day day doing happy birthday?
(02:18):
Do hey Jonas kwandos anios no idea. I was going to, Yeah,
that's what I was gonna say. How do you know that? Yeah,
but I didn't know what I was saying, so it
might have been incorrect, might have dumped. If you want
proper Spanish, you come to lav R and I not Burda.
(02:39):
We know our stuff here? What is it? Quandos annual
scomplis how old are you? His birthday? His birthday? How
do you say how do you say twenty four? In
uh Spanish? How do you say that? Squadro is no
mo miss ha ha. He just dumped himself just to
(03:08):
get a joke on the air. But is a trip
that so LaVar LaVar mentioned this last week and we
didn't know about some of the heat you were getting.
And then all of a sudden, on Friday, the New
York Post had had an article yeah about you guys,
(03:33):
uh comments about Drew Brees, And I'm thinking to myself,
first of all, why is the New York Post okay,
which is supposed to be a reputable source of news,
just now coming up with a news story about that? Yeah,
like three I think it was like three weeks. It's
a long time. And I don't I can't even respond
(03:55):
and defend myself because I don't even remember it. I
don't would even remember what I said, and I don't
care enough to go back and listen to it. It was.
It wasn't even like a major topic that day. I
don't think I wasn't attacking Drew Brees. I was just
callings who cares? Man, Well, these sensitive fan bases. Hold on,
(04:17):
let's let's be real, all right. The quotes of the quotes.
I'm not gonna walk back anything. That was not walking
back and I'm not walking back anything. Um. I will
say this. I didn't talk to a couple of guys
who had asked me about it. They're like, yeah, that's
pretty much how people feel about them. I was like,
oh god, okay. Like I was like, well, look, I
(04:37):
don't necessarily feel that way. I said, you know, it
wasn't what I said. No, I didn't disagree with it.
I just said, look if if the NBC Sports doesn't
want him and it doesn't seem like the Saints won him,
I said, it's a tough pill to swallow for a
first ballot Hall of Famer, was what I said. And
it is like, there's nothing that's that's changed from that aspect.
(04:58):
It's not taking away from what he did in his career.
Called him the first ballot Hall of Famer, but the
reality is that TVs just as tough, if not a
tougher business. I mean, think about it. Joe Montana. Joe
Montana was viewed just the greatest of all time before
tom Brady even got there, couldn't do it. And and
the same thing, like people were critical of him, There's
(05:19):
been plenty of others in category, Jamis Smith, Jerry Rice.
I mean, guys just didn't do well in the boot.
But here's the thing. Bruce arians had one year. And
here's the thing is I'm not gonna say Bruce was
gonna be great. He just couldn't be on that Patsy
(05:42):
Becuss he would be. Yeah. I just I just think
that when when you say the market has spoken, you know,
we were basing the conversation off of Tom Brady already
having a gig, a gig that Drew Brees would probably
want or feel like he should have. That's I think
that that's the premise of where the whole conversation came from.
(06:04):
And and and to get upset that I said, he's
not as loved as he thinks thinks he is, like
they don't. He's not on on tom Brady's level that way.
It's just not it's not even it's not closed. So
if you want to get offended and make it about
you know, like people have death threaded my parents, they've
(06:25):
death threaded my my kids like this, let me tell
you something, you like, you really got something, And I
guess it's just simple to say and see like people
really have nothing better to do with their time then
(06:45):
that like you we're talking it's sports in the end,
it's we're talking sports, and it just is I found
it to be kind of I don't know. I mean,
here's what's weird is people are so quick to defend
people they don't actually know, Like they're so quick to
defend public figures and so forth in like the weirdest
(07:08):
ways and even make death threats apparently, And it's like,
I don't I could never do that, even even to
defend probably someone I know, let alone someone I don't know.
That's what's more surprised than me. It was, like, what
all comes with it? It's it's the hero worshiping fanboy
crap like and that people go to that extent because
(07:32):
of commentary. And by the way, Drew Brees did this
to himself when he sent out that he can talking
about me getting fine for passive aggressiveness that tweet he
sent out where he's not you know, maybe I'll come
as well. It's like, dude, like, what what's the problem here.
I mean, like, like especially once, it was a Naucias
Sholder surgery, so he wouldn't be ready until potentially into
(07:54):
the season. So he's like, he's like stoke in the
fire and there's there's no fire. He's not he can't play.
He's just understand. It was no different than when he
sent out the workout video. Remember he was coming back, Yeah,
Todd Durk and his trainer was like, you know, pump
the video out, what do that sort of speculation, it's
no different than that, you know, trying to kind of
(08:16):
fuel that up. And I don't know if this is
based on Look, tom Brady did you know kind of
similar stuff, has done similar stuff. He's still playing though,
and he's Tom Brady, right, I mean, let's just be
clear here, and he's Tom Brady. It's not gonna hit
the same. And so for all the Drew Brees apologists
out there that are probably listening right now to be
(08:37):
able to say they hate hate me or whatever. You
can hate me all you want, it doesn't change what
what it is. Like. He's not going to get a
contract offered like what Tom Brady has received. He's not
gonna be running in the same circles that Tom Brady
is running in. As it applies to this, the market
has spoken. And if if you guys want to direct
(09:00):
your hate directed towards the people that are gonna do
it like be so influential or impactful that Drew Brees
gets that thirty million dollar offer or a hundred million
dollar offer, whatever it is, and and then they put
him on air because there are so many of you
that what do you guys say? So, well, here we go.
(09:22):
If you're that good of a ball washer, then get
Drew Brees where he's supposed to be. By the way,
if you're come at me, you don't get mad at me,
because I'm just telling you what it is. If you're
a Saints fan and you want to get pissy about something,
get pissy about that call in the NFC title game,
all right, and then that Drew Brees throwing the pick
in overtime. If you want to get pissy about something
post career as a member of the media, which was
(09:44):
which was a flop after one year, and and and
people are getting death threats over commenting on it. What
are we doing here? Let me just say this to
it all. You know, when you look at the deal
that Tom Brady got it. I mean, you could have
made the case that maybe that's what Drew we should
have done. He should have tried to have those discussions
while he was still playing, before he left, and then
(10:06):
you can leverage that. But you can only leverage you
know what you're doing while you're still playing. To a
certain degree. What what Tom Brady did is the same
thing tom Tony Romo did. He found a network that
was in a bind that was that was win a pinch.
CBS when Tony Romo negotiated that deal was heading into
(10:27):
a super Bowl. They had to have their guy. They
had to have that lightning run. And Tony Romo came
in as a broadcaster, very polarizing. Some people loved him,
some people didn't like. Whatever the case was, it was polarizing,
and so it garnered attention and it gave them a
lot more credibility when they had a guy who's been
a pro bowler, who played for Dallas and all of
that as their number one guy. And so he sees
(10:50):
that opportunity. Tom Brady sees that opportunity with with Fox Sports.
True Aikman left. He left to go to ESPN to
go take over Monday FOOTBA with Joe Buck. They had
a void there and they're saying to themselves, you know,
what can we do to make up for this loss?
Let's go sign and announced a deal for a guy
who's not even gonna be here this year. He's not
(11:12):
even gonna be calling games, Like Fox has the super
Bowl this year, Todd Brady's probably now he might be
a part of it if he's not playing, but he's
not calling it. He's playing. He's playing football. So you know,
he sees that opportunity where he found a network that
was in need, that needed to make a splash, and
he made a splash, like he he figured it out.
(11:33):
So you know that's the other portion of all this too,
is you know, Drew Brees doesn't find himself, at least
in the broadcasting world, with that same opportunity, and so
even if he was going to try to sign some big, huge,
mega deal, it's harder because he's like, what's the market
who's he negotiating with? Now? Like all the cards are set.
If he wants to go to Fox, so be it.
But you know they're they're still eventually winning for Tom
(11:55):
Brady to come work for them right, CBS has their guy,
Amazon's got a Kirk Herbster. You know, you've got ESPN
now with with Troy but Joe Buck so he's he'd
have to go right back to the place he's at
and Tris callswhoth is still in that spot. So it's
just the reality of the situation. Like I know, people
get frustrated by that because they're excited about you know,
Drew Brees, you know, take it over and all that.
But I just it's crazy to be how people don't
(12:18):
look at it and say they utilize the leverage they had,
like they seize that opportunity, and I don't know that
there is that same opportunity for Drew right now. And
by the way, Breeze agreed to the deal with NBC,
I think before he signed his final two year extension
with the Saints, so he had all the time in
the world to prepare get ready for his post career
(12:38):
and it just didn't work out. And then now he's, uh,
you know, putting out workout videos and putting it out
to tweets of all the different options he has and
it just it just it's a weird ending to a
great career and a weird reaction to simple commentary that
that that to me just seemed like it was pretty obvious. Um,
But apparently to the New York Post, we run with
(13:00):
a two week old stories and trying to throw them
out to try and get get a little bit of attention.
So dynamite job im over there. Well, hey, I mean
it is what I mean. Look, it's a slow time
of year. Maybe they picked it up because they heard
la Arts, maybe they're listeners to the show, and they
looked looked into it a little bit deeper, and that's
what brought up the article, which is continue to give
it more life. And I'll be honest with you. I
(13:22):
saw LaVar's face on there, and I thought to myself,
I'm gonna get hit with some collateral damage. He did,
Oh I did, I got I got all kinds of
people shooting them. Not me though, not me just just
sitting by, just sitting watching it all. It's just funny
to me. It has to have some validity to it.
(13:44):
And again, why would we not one thing about this show.
We shoot our shots, and when we shoot our shots,
we give commentary, we give perspective, and it comes from
a very real place. I mean whether we're joking at
times or whatever, it was a good enough take where
people took notice of it and either wanted to defend it,
(14:06):
but they wrote it, they talked about it, They kept
putting it out there. You know why, because it's a
debatable topic. No matter what side you fall on it,
it's a debatable topic. And the you guys just laid
out the facts of the situation. You like you laid
out the information that doesn't lie. That the information doesn't lie.
(14:27):
Where's Drew Brees? Answer me there before we go to brick.
Where is Drew Brees going to be next season? What
is he going to be doing that? Do any of
us know? Well, I'm gonna say that he won't be
doing TV because he was awful at it his first year.
So I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with no TV,
no TV and no tvka what about you, Brady tv Um.
(14:52):
I think he'll be doing TV for someone. I don't
know if it's for NBC or if it's local. Yah.
Is he gonna be going local? Maybe like Fox on
My Big ESPN? Yeah? No, what not not ESPN? I
mean it would be Fox or NBC. Are you one
of those two. Okay, radio, is he doing radio? Is
he is he doing football? What was he doing? Is
(15:12):
he playing football? I don't believe, so I don't think well,
although I held the reports to say that Jamis Winston
has a noticeable limp quote unquote at practice, I'm just
you know, so maybe maybe there is an option for him.
You know, he kind of had that as his swag though.
He walks as long as he's Some guys have, like
some some reporters that're be like, oh man, he walked
(15:34):
with the limp. You're like, no, man, it's just the
way he walks. He's gonna suck his toes after a win,
you know, you know, he's gonna make that toe, those
toes into a W and he's gonna eat the W
when they want in the hell. By the way, Rex
Ryan just turned the radio up so loud. I mean
that was like he just made his morning. Maybe how
to get picked up out of New York Post too, Yeah,
(15:55):
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three one. Antonio Brown has made a statement. Uh, he
has made a statement. Uh this is uh, you know
his his bitness booming rap career. He was talking with
on fubos button. Well, you're not go ahead the button
on bit it booming? Thank you said bitness movement. No
(17:48):
side the way you would say it business booming, thank you,
thank you, Johnson, thank you. You're not gonna put it
is in the business is booming? Isn't movement? He was
talking with Fubo Sports about where he's at in his career.
(18:09):
This was a b Is football still important to you?
What you say? Obviously you know we live the game,
but you can't play forever. I think I'm a great player,
that everything in the game. We're gonna see you playing
next season. No, don't play yourself looking at me to play,
all right? So there it is to Brown, all his decision.
(18:30):
He's calling the shots in his career. This is all
his decision, and that's the reason why he's not playing
next year and I'm proud of him. It's not that
nobody else wants to touch him or go near him,
or the fact that he's alienated multiple franchises now during
the during his career and by the way, has defecated
away his Hall of Fame chances. Those are done as
(18:50):
well too. This is all his decision. Antonio Brown not
playing next year. I buy it. I'm in, So don't
play yourself, guys. Just words of a wisdom from Antonio Brown.
It is sad that he had, you know, a run
that you would say his career was Hall of Fame worthy.
You know, definitely that for the six year period. And
it's just everything's changed so fast over the past few years. Um.
(19:14):
And by the way, the crazy thing about it is,
it's like we had a lot of other distractions too,
Like we had a lot of other things we could
have talked about. I mean, obviously went through COVID for
really a year, a couple of years, you know, Tom
Brady retired, than did the speculation of Aaron Rodgers. I mean,
there's been so many other storylines in the NFL that
(19:37):
we could have or at times talked about, or maybe
even should have overshadowed Antonio Brown, but his behavior was
so bizarre that it literally for like weeks. I mean, LaVar,
I remember one time you were like, dude, I'm tired
of talking about this dude, Like literally we're still we
were still talking about him, and you're like, what is
with this? I mean, we didn't do this show together
(20:01):
back when he was you know, burning his feet off
in a cryode chamber, or couldn't find the right helmet,
whatever other thing you want to talk about. When Tom
Brady threw him a touchdown pass in Miami Week one,
like three or four years ago, like we were doing
the show together, I could only imagine how exhaustin LaVar
would be had that also been a part of our discussions.
(20:24):
But that's what's crazy to me, is he really he
really was? If this is it that kind of player
that he's Hall of Fame worthy, and yet because of
all the other crap out around him, he might not
make it in. And it's it's a crying shame. It's terrible.
And even now to the point where like he feels
(20:44):
the need to say, oh, yeah, I'm the one calling quits,
no man, like maybe someone will give you a call
to season all that, But people are so scared after
what he did you know in New York, that he's
gonna do the same thing to them. I mean it's
getting to the point now where for you know, Pittsburgh
to Las Vegas, uh, to the New England and now
(21:05):
to Tampa and then and everyone's kind of saying, Okay,
fool me once, all right, shame on you for me twice,
shame on me right, And now everyone's already watched her,
going yeah, I'm not signing up for that, like just
just not worth it, just not worth it. And it's
crazy to think about that, considering everything that's gone on
and and just how good of a player, uh he was.
(21:26):
Maybe even when he's healthy, still is to a degree,
I think he'll still go into the Hall of Fame. Really, yeah,
I do. I don't think he I mean, if you
look at some of the resumes of some of the
people that made it in the Hall of Fame, I mean,
some of these guys are not perfect by any stretch
of the imagination. Now, I don't think that he is
considered to be one of those first ballot to early
(21:49):
early ballot Hall of Famers. I think it will take
some time, but it you know, time passes on and
people lose the intensity of of their field links towards
some of the antics that players may have had during
during a time where they I guess we're paid attention to,
or relevant enough to be paid attention to. So I
(22:10):
think he'll still end up going into the Hall of Fame.
I think the bigger the bigger conversation for me is
I just think that it's it's kind of a shame
that that he would allow for something like nobody really knew.
Like there were conversations about a b and and how
(22:31):
he handled things and how his personality was um in
the locker room. And and that's because you know, I
mean full of disclosure. I mean, Ryan Clark was a
teammate of mine. UM, me and me and AB had
the same barber, and so there were conversations as to
you know, kind of his his personality and and and
(22:52):
you know, it wasn't it wasn't like people said he
was a bad person. It just was interesting. I'll say.
People would say, it's interesting the Facebook live video that
he was filming the locker room, Tom, why would you
do that? Yeah, I mean, he's done questionable things. I
just think that for him to have the type of
(23:13):
career that he he's had, and and for the most
part of it that he was obscure in terms of
his personality. You know, people didn't really get to know
him until after he would have been in the in
the league for quite some time. And so for it
to turn into now the conversation actually is more about
(23:33):
his character and his conduct versus his career as a player.
I just think that that's unfortunate, because you when you
have that type of success and and you've overcome the
things that he's overcome to to climb to the heights
he's climbed to, you want to you want to celebrate
people like that, you know, you want to have the
ability to, you know, watch them go around and give
(23:57):
motivational speeches and and and inspire people like That's the
type of career he had. That people model their games
and they model who they are after people like Antonio Brown.
It's just unfortunate that, you know, for one reason or another,
you know, he allowed himself to kind of get off
of the track that got him to the success or
(24:20):
maybe it just became more evident or more covered, you know,
maybe I don't know, I don't want to speak for him,
but it's just it's just unfortunate that this is now
the narrative, this is the overwhelming narrative that surrounds Antonio Brown.
Listen to these numbers, um, hundred and fourteen catches, undred
(24:41):
and twenty four yards, eleven touchdowns. Those are his averages
over that six year span that Brady talked about. It
really is absurd when you look at the numbers, just
that right there. He he had over nine thousand yards
receiving in a six year span and what is he
five ten? I mean he was, like, he said something
(25:04):
on the I Am Athlete podcast, something to the effect
of he did a crazy, crazy deal after just playing
for one year, like still like the youngest guy to
do a contract that big, or something to that effect.
I don't I don't know the exact what what lingo
of it, but I mean the dude was special. And
you know the other thing we've always heard about him
(25:27):
works his asshole workout warrior. Everybody, Belichick, Brady, Tomlin, Roth's everybody.
You said, you'll never Bruce Arians, You'll never find a
guy who works out harder. And so he trained down
at Pete bomb Aritos down down in Miami, and so
I'd go down there, and I remember this is early
on his career, go work out some of those guys
John Beason, Tonio, Brownie B. But he would say, hey,
(25:51):
did you want to throw some routes to me? And
I'll never forget, like you could not if it was
normally a seventh step drop to throw them most wide receivers,
you had to do a big five, like you had
to change your drop to his speed and how fast
he was getting in and out of cuts, because he
had that sort of explosiveness and he was like that
(26:12):
fast rolling on an in cut or getting out of
his comeback or rolling on a speed out whatever was
he just had, like or his bang eight. Like the
way he would be able to just literally get up
the top speed and change direction but maintain that speed
was unparalleled. Like I never ever had an issue with
with really anyone outside of you know that going wow,
(26:35):
I literally have to change my drop, like this dude
is a dude. You have to change what you do
to be able to, you know, facilitate what he can
do because it's so special. If he just if he
went somewhere and just played nice for a year or two,
he's a Hall of Famer, Like, no, but I just
I don't think it's happens the first ballot you got.
(26:56):
You gotta put it in context, right, Like he's a
first ballot Hall of Fame, Like how many Pro Bowls
did he have? How many Pro bits? A lot of them?
Seven time Pro Bowler, four time All Pro, first Team
All Pro um. Yeah, there's like there's like a Super
Bowl Tampa. There are first ballot Hall of famers that
had way lesser of of a resume than Antonio Brown,
(27:20):
way lesser. So I mean that's just he takes himself
out of the conversation of being admired and revered by
certain decision makers, voters, so to speak, the media. I mean,
he's just been a he's been a total buzz kill.
And and you know, I don't know what for. I
don't know what his ultimate end was or his ultimate goal.
(27:44):
Maybe he got caught into, you know, a pattern that
he's not proud of or didn't want to be a
part of. Maybe it's for the culture. Maybe maybe he's
doing things that you know, he felt pushed culture for him.
But you know, there are some things along the way
in his resume that have nothing to do with culture,
and it's not positive and and it wasn't you know,
(28:06):
it just wasn't something that should happen. And so when
you start to get into those arenas, you start getting
in those avenues of that's the discussion points that are
surrounding you, it's just sad, man. It's it's sad that
that becomes a part of what your legacy is going
to be. I I hope I hope that he gets
ahold of of what it is, that the true reality
(28:28):
of what he wants himself to be represented as. I
hope I hope he really, you know, like starts to
dial it in and say, look, there was a moment
in time where I could have done better. I could
have been better. He's played a few more games in
Calvin Johnson, but his numbers are better than Calvin Johnson's.
I mean, he's got about all the pros, he's got
it just and and yet here's the conversation we're having.
(28:52):
It's sad. I don't I just don't understand. Do we
have his song? I want to listen to it this
kind of woman? Yeah, it's yeah, So we we are
gonna have Antonio Brown, Do we have it in the
system or should Uh, all right, so we will get
that in the system. We're aftening that. Lee's actually making
a couple of calls on that, Brady. So Lee's always
(29:12):
you got to get that release to use that. You know,
that's a b I thought you could play it, Jonas wins.
I thought you could play it for like a short
amount of time. Yeah, you can like ten seconds well,
and also you only want to play for a short
amount of time because it's so bad that you don't
want to hear it for that one. You don't like music.
You don't like a lot of people's songs. Come on, man,
(29:34):
a lot of people are pouring their heart out and
Jonas just tramples on them. This is his birthdays allowed,
so it is he's pouring his heart out and those
those tracks for certain Yeah, he really is putting his
heart and soul into them tracks. Man, happy birthday, and
I appreciate it. Now the hashtag no more white women,
(29:54):
where does that rank? And as credentials, I'm looking at
a football reference. Uh read white women not not not
next day According to him, I'm just going to stay
away from that one because I'm still fresh off of
this Drew Brees cancel culture. I don't know I can
handle Drew Brees cancer. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, are here,
(30:20):
come to bars? Hold on, here we go, Here we go,
here we go? What else? Ran up? Bill? Yeah, I
ran up the field. Got money, Yeah, I gotta get
my money. He was running to get his money. Yeah,
he's running to the mills. Excuse me, my yeah, millions
and my billions. I'm yeah, I'm a great influence. Get stuff, dude.
(30:45):
Oh wow, don't listen to blogs. How do you listen
to a blog or blogs? Still a thing? I don't
know the blogs. Blogs. It's like saying, don't listen to
the newspaper. I mean, he was addressing this haters like
you're shaking him off, booming millions. We got millions in
(31:05):
his billions. First ballot hall of Famer gone, that's gone
because that song. No, not no, not even probably before
you just did you change your opinion just because the song? No,
I said, he's not going to be a first ballot
hall of fame. That that's that's he's going to get in.
If he didn't make the song, would be uh yeah,
(31:28):
he would still get in. But you know, but I
think that the voters are going to look at bed
and booming and and I think they're just going to
be offended. I think they're gonna be tremendously offended by
the song and and I think that it's going to
have a very very, very uh negative impact on Yeah,
(31:48):
I'm joking, all right, some of you, some of y'all
don't know when when jokes are jokes, right, I'm joking
at a cup of joe, all right, So we are
going to have another addition to a uh speaking of business,
millions and billions, let's turn it over to the great
Eddie Garcia. I'm still trying to recover from listening to
the garbage Steeler. Eddie, that should be a Hall of Famer?
(32:14):
Is he the greatest? Is the wide receiver? You've seen
the Pittsburgh goes in as a Pittsburgh. Yes, what's crazy?
Is he probably the greatest wide receiver to play? Who's
been better? Take Lewis lips over here. I love Louis
Lips Love Louis lips Lin. Swan is the greatest in
the history of his eyebrows. Louis sure, you know you
(32:38):
got heinz Wart, you know, But anyways, burn your thoughts
on the wide receiver for the Lewis's that's what is
Lewis is? Yeah, Louise, why is it? Louise? Okay? Can
you hit the button on LaVar? It's gotta be Louise,
you know, thank you. That's how it's spelled. That's how
(33:02):
it's spelled. My in laws listening to this show, they'd
be piste right now. Oh my gosh, that's how you
spell it. Spell it, spell Louise. I don't want to
spell it because you don't know how, you know, I can't.
All right, all right, Eddie, that's that's that's all right,
Louise lips. Aren't you good? What did Eddie? I am? Okay?
(33:26):
Thank you? You know. What's uh, what's what's really exciting
is the NBA Finals if they if they played apparently
they're not going to play until Thursday, and then they're
not gonna play until Sunday. They trying to get the
Celtics time. Yeah, you know, got it, got a milk,
go get that postseason stretch it out. Listen to ESPN
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Who's got who wants to go first to first? Can't
the birthday? Boy? Yeah? How does work out for you? Not? Well?
I realized I don't need a lot of bread. So
like I can I do steaks. I just don't let
me explain. So I do steaks, chicken, shrimp, things like that.
I like grilling. It's fun. I enjoy it. And then
(36:21):
I realized yesterday I don't know how to make hamburgers
like I have no I've never done it before, I know.
And then so I I put it on the grill
and I, you know, I failed to realize. Not that
they just shrunk up so much that they look like sausages. Yeah,
they turned into sliders. They turned into like little Hamburger
(36:45):
sliders as opposed to what I was trying to go for.
So not not my best performance. But yeah, it's a
it's a terrible embarrassing to you. I don't really have anything, man,
it was pretty low cute hanging out with the fam
that that's not true. Call him out, calling out the
torrential downpour that was that was going on. Brady left
(37:08):
me a message and you would have thought he was
in the middle of the Amazon. Well all right, I
mean full disclosure. I did lose a pair of sunglasses,
um while I was out on the water this weekend,
which it happens like every single time. I would my
father in law and mother in law bought a pair
of sunglasses for me. I don't think they made it
past a month. They're ray bands. Yeah they're nice, but
(37:31):
I feel tilsy about it. Well, no, because I was
I was docking the boat by myself, so I was
like more pre occupied with the boat as opposed to sunglasses.
But I bet I was bent over the side right
off they dropped off, and I was like, man, I
can try to go after the sunglasses, but then I
could risk like the boat crash into something. I was like,
probably makes more sense to what the sunglasses it is.
(37:54):
I do need some croakes though, like that, But that's
one thing that like, I don't think you can wear
crokeys with ray bands. Can what's the footage on that boat?
What is a croakey? Croakey is the thing people were
on the back of their neck that attaches to their sun.
That makes you old, that takes you to the old, right,
And I feel like you have a certain like type
(38:15):
of sunglass like a Mauie jim or or something to
wear those, Yeah, you can't, Like, you can't have you
can have deviator sunglasses on with with crokes. What's the
footage on the boat. Yea, what's the footage on that boat?
We're not talking about my boat, alright. I don't need
to know the maker name of it. I just want
to know the footage. I'm talking about this. Why are
(38:39):
you projecting? I'm not projected yacht I was just as kid. Yeah,
it's beyond forty. That's why he doesn't want to sell it.
It's not it's right, it's right there. Trust me, I
would not be driving a boat that was that big.
Wants to be a good sound system, Yeah, that's fine.
What do you it's a it's a good family boat. Nice.
(39:00):
What do you guys listen to on that on the boat?
I was gonna say after this, what is considered yacht rock?
I don't know. I just know it's it's it's like
a certain like. It's not Jimmy Buffett. I know that's
like Bruce Springsteing and Jimmy Buffett was at the heat game.
Do you see that, Jimmy Buffett? I mean, come on, man,
(39:22):
well I'm just thinking like, yeahs Lafar gonna get off
Scott free from amoral. Yes to report, I mean against
we're up against it. Not that it's not enough time
come on, Leonard Skinner, you know that's that's yea rock. Okay,
what about what about your weekend? Alright? What about it? Yeah?
(39:45):
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