July 19, 2022 • 46 mins
Tuesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys recap the highlights from the Home Run Derby. Deshaun Watson and the NFLPA prepare to sue the league if they hand down a season long suspension. Lane Kiffin calls NIL legalized cheating that makes the rich richer. Notre Dame wants $75M in media rights to stay independent but it makes more sense to join a conference.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's the best of two pros and a couple of
Joe with Lamar Areas, Rady Quinn and Jonas knocks on radio.
Did you guys happen to watch the home run derby
at all? It's an exhibition event, so I don't know
how you feel about these exhibition events. Just curious. But
I watched a little bit um and honestly, I was exhausted,
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so it didn't It was almost like a normal regular
season baseball game. Asleep, good, good, good nap viewing for you. Good. Uh,
gonna get a nice little snooze in. All right, let
me because I just want to throw this out because
I found myself thinking about this while I throw it out. Okay,
all right, oh something now not the topic. You're gonna
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throw something out there about the topic. Do you enjoy
the home run Derby or the slam dunk contest more?
But you gotta pick one? Really? Okay? These days? Yeah,
come on, I mean, honestly, it's tough these days. But
I still think I've like memories of Vince Carter and
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those dunk conto was there I was at that one? Yeah,
So so I'm saying like that's still to me, like
when I watched the dunk contest, I'm like, maybe I'm
gonna see something I've never seen before. And in the
home run Derby, it's like, all right, I get it,
you know. And by the way, Pete Alonso doing dead
lifts in full uniform in between rounds. Everybody, Okay, come
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on man? Thats it was to say it's a bit
over the top, No, because at least he had sleeves on, right,
there were there were sleeves on a shirt. But for
Christ's sakes, dude, it's a home run derby. Relax a
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little bit. You've already won a couple of times. Everybody
else is having a good time, they're hanging out, and
he's in the clubhouse doing dead lifts. Yeah, come on, man,
that's yeah. We're going to go over the and of
the contest. We're talking about you. Well, I don't know.
I don't know. I would have no idea. That's why
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I was curious. Who would have won? I mean, does
it even leave and catch the results of it? Yeah?
I think got lead it. What are we what are
the updates on the well? LaVar was right that there
would be a ball hit out of Dodger Stadium. And
Kuna hit that hit that boom. Did I have that too?
You did? Yeah, you both had that, Jonas, you're the
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only one that had a left you winning always to
the left. Nobody hit a home run over over four
nine one. Actually, Alonso and Soto both hit one over
for eighty, but nobody hit one over foe. So who
got that? No, nobody got so let's so Lea's projection
on Friday of longest home run literally didn't come within
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forty ft of the actual number that was hit. So
burto let me down is what you guys are saying. Good, Yeah,
anymore that Berto let me down? We uh, let's see
what else did Burto do for you? I don't know,
just kid. It was odd that LaVar wanted to go
into this because it was all burtos pick right. I
wanted to say, Berto one for us. You want to
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see if you have won. But yeah, so if I lose,
it's its vote. If I win, then we worked together. Well,
you you did tie with Brady for for last place.
For last place, yes, one, each Jon has actually one
with three that's yeah. Look how hey, look how happily
is about that? Yeah? Man, he's back there with a
big grin on his face, like, yeah, my Janat's one
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yea yay, my Donat. Why can't he stand up? Brady
was too excited, like it pulled a back muscle or something. Yeah,
I don't know. I don't know what you're getting at there.
We got no uh so we do have the home
run Derby's in the books. We got the All Star
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Game coming up later on, and who knows. Yeah, I
know everybody's fired up about that as well too. Now
let's let's get to the matter in hand here. Deshaun
Watson again, Come on again, what do you want for?
I don't know. I don't have to tell you. What
do you want heded? All right? All right? Do you
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want to talk about the Texans angle or the Deshaun
Watson potentially suing the NFL if he's suspended for a
full year angle? Which which one do you want to
go with? All right? You gotta pick one? You pick one? Okay,
you pick one. Split the difference, LaVar, split the difference.
What do you want to do? Texans angle? Alright? So
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the Houston Texans, there's some discussion now that they've settled
the thirty lawsuits. Are the Texans going to be punished
by the NFL or is there going to be an
invest instigation done into the Houston Texans, which is fair,
but I just I get the feeling that it's not
gonna happen, and I don't know, I just feel like
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the Texans smoke that there's not as big of a
fire there as maybe some people think, because it feels
like to me, and this is just my opinion that
I don't think this was an organizational situation where they
were trying to help him as much as maybe it
was one guy who went rogue who was the head
of security, yeah, and giving them blank nondisclosure agreements, you know,
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setting up and so so here's the no, here, here's
the case. This is how this works. If this guy
did the exact same thing for every other player, your
defense is gonna be. How is it any different. It's
not on this individual or the organization that this is
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how we set it up for all our players, and
we just had one bad apple who wanted to take
advantage of that, right And then they might come back
and say, well, I mean sixty different massage therapists over
a year and a half, and he might say, well,
I didn't know who these people were. I was just
setting it up for him like we do every other player.
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And that's where it becomes kind of okay. Like at
some point, I mean, and especially in a court of law,
there's gotta be a sense of accountability, like, yeah, there's
a there's liability as well. But I think that's where
the Houston Texans are probably going to be able to
make a case for themselves that they weren't involved. It
just comes down to if they settled thirty different cases
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and they're trying to position themselves by saying we had
no involved, we didn't do anything wrong, why do you settle?
I mean, why do you settle because you were worried
about the pr backlash If you then had these lawsuits
out against you where you're worried about what became public
and discovery or what would come to to the to
the light of a yes, otherwise, like what was the
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point of settling if you're trying to say you did
nothing wrong? So that's where they're there, you know, would
be potentially an opportunity I think for something something to
look a little deeper in the Houston Texans to really
figure out what went wrong or what didn't. I wonder
how much of this had already been discussed and disclosed
between the Texas and the NFL before we got to
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this point. Again, I don't this was not an overnight situation,
So whatever it was, it was taking place over a
period of time. I mean there's multiple overnight by the way,
by the way with within the a's that were involved,
by the way, sixty different. I just can't get over
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it because it's been there longer than eighteen months. That
was just over an eighteen month period. It probably isn't
a habit that just started. So let's just assume there's
a lot more in sixty totally agree, and I'm surprised
that this hasn't been that there hasn't been any any
sort of tracking back to A. Was some of this
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going on at Clemson? No, I'm serious, like, like what
was was? What was happening back when he was a Tiger? Yeah,
Like it's like ra LaVar um. I don't know, man,
I just feel like this whole situation, it sounds like
there was a lot of money exchange, and so now
you gotta assume that maybe an I don't know, representation
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recruiters would have been involved. In his his his habit,
his addiction, because I mean there's money exchanging and these things,
there's n das that are exchanging. Maybe he waited until
he became a professional. Maybe this developed once he became
a professional. It's like how It's like, how do you
develop that as your fetish? Like? How did that happen?
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That's all I know is this is it's a it's
a new definition for a five handshake, if you know
what I mean. Yeah, that really does change the way
think about that because it's usually not just want that
handshake is. Yeah, it's just the money's being donated somewhere
else and shaking still going on. I mean, how many ndia'
s did you hand out? And if you hand it here?
See here's where I'm trying to understand the whole Texans aspect,
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the angle of it. You could say that you you
provide the same service for everyone else. That's fine, But
at what point do you say, Hey, hey, Deshaun man Um,
why why do you get so many nda s? Bro
Like and if I'm Deshaun Watson, why would you get that?
Didn't they say that he handed him out like a
handful of him or something? Is that what I read,
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So he could he could have said, though there for
general business matters, right, maybe hey, it's for my cleaning lady.
Maybe it's for my pool guys, and that's fair, and
that is fair. That is maybe he asked for a
stack and he said, look, give me a bunch, or
I can copy this now, and so maybe that's fair.
So then now the question goes to was there anything Oh,
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hold on, that's normal. No, it's not normal. That's not normal,
but it's fair because if somebody comes into your home,
you know, you don't want people to valuate your home life.
So it is a possibility. It's yes, I'm not yeah,
no I'm not being smart. I'm not being a smart
if that's if that's not outside of the people walking
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around your home, you know, different things like that. Yeah,
you don't want them to be you know, be privy
as something or yeah, I mean there's all sorts of
difference scenarios. You'd like for people not to be able
to talk about you if something happened, right, you want
to protect yourself in that way. Yeah, that that and
that makes that now that there's that's feasible, that's feasible.
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So then now the question becomes if if there was more,
and that would be the question as to would there
be an investigation about the NFL did they know more?
And if they knew more, then what was that more?
What was the extent of that more or who within
the organization knew the extent of that more and didn't
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say anything? Because to me, you can't get uh thirty
settlements off of saying yep, I was one of the
ones that got an n d A. Pay me. Doesn't
work that way. I'm sorry, it doesn't work that way. Yep, yep, Yeah,
I got an India I saw. Here is my n
d A from the Houston Texans that I signed for
Deshaun Watson. Pay me, Like, No, that's there's more to it,
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Like just though, there's more to it than that that thing,
and I wonder what that is? And then now that
would say for me, is that is that worth the
investigation from the NFL? And what would that you know,
what would that discipline look like? Who gets disciplined there?
Do they lose a draft pick? Do they get fine? Like?
What does that discipline look like? At some point you
gotta ask yourself, is there is there ever a discipline
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to the NFL, you know what I mean, Like, is
there a discipline to the NFL? Like they can't be
disciplined as a private like they are the discipline. So
it's just kind of like to me, it's like, all,
are you doing an investigation? But what is that going
to lead to? Like how are you going to punish
them over what happened with the shan? Yeah, you know,
like what's the what's the what's the investigation about? Well,
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I mean you know, but now you can change it
to the shan now if you want to go over
to the Shan or we could go to a break
well no, I mean that's it. But again, this is
the radio formatics that I've learned from Brady Quinn. We'll
just reset the topic later on with different a Watson Radio.
So welcome into and Watson Radio everyone. I'm Joe nads Knots.
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So we are going to uh not in my pants now?
Who knows? Maybe my pants pass by the way. So
are we doing this? Uh? You want to do this?
Start doing the division previews? Now? How do we want
to do this later on in the show, because Brady,
you were talking maybe bang out a couple of divisions
each day leading up to training camps. You don't think
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that was the most and a apropriate uh saying for
this segment and bang out and bang it out, bang
out a few things I didn't tell you any ank
or grab anything said bang it out. Love about what
I love about Burts. He has those like so like
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quick yeah, oh, those are the ones he loves. Yeah,
but he's got it like right there. If you can
see his face, I love it. He makes the funniest
faces when he's hitting them sound effects. What I want
to know is, can you can you give me the oh?
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Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart
Radio app. So it is media days around the world
of college football. The SEC had their media Days. I
did like how when these coaches came up, they had
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this big screen background behind them. The SEC does it right, man.
They really present these guys as if they're the stars
of the conference, like all of them with these big
it looks like a WrestleMania entrants big time. But it
was SEC media days there, the commissioner Greg Sanky pointed
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out that they're not looking to expand anymore. I think
this is something Brady you talked about. Why why split
the pie anymore if you're the place to be after
Texas and Oklahoma arrive. So it seems to make some sense.
It's just so people at home like understand this, like
more results not always better. Yeah, I mean quality is
what matters the most, and and more so than that,
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it's all in the vessel. Yeah. Yeah. If you look
at the trends, I mean of consumption of football for
college football, it's still a growing landscape. In regards to
the TV rights, it's very healthy. It hasn't been impacted
by the fracturing of broadcast versus cable and then cord
cutting that goes along with that. That hasn't biggest, big
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of an issue for for college football. So it's still
been a growing landscape. And I think a lot of
the conferences are starting to realize the power that they have.
Hence the reason why the SEC and the Big tent
of distanced themselves from everyone else as far as what
their TV media rights deal is gonna look like. And
and if you're the SEC. It's not just about splitting
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up the pie. It's also about allowing that to continue
to grow. In order to do that, you can't get
bigger unless you find someone who comes in and brings
greater value. And right now there's just there's no real
other brands outside of Notre Dame. And I don't know
that it it makes as much geographical sense or any
sense given the schedule they typically play, to have them
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join a conference that you know they they're seeing in
big ten countries, so that probably makes more sense. But um,
you know there's headlines involving Notre Dame that are out
there now obviously going around. What do you mean, like,
what headlines are you talking about? Dennis Dodd of CBS
was pointing out was a seventy five million dollars. Well,
first off, if the Big Tennis, I mean, and again
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you have to you have to kick everything with a
grain assault because the numbers that are projected also by
Dennis doddter that the Big ten is gonna get eighty
two hundred million a year. Um, those are I don't
know who he talks to. I know, I know he
burned a lot of bridges that Notre Dame this past
summer after misquoting Marcus Freeman. So I can assure you
note a Notre Dames telling Dennis dot anything. But of course,
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any school could would remain independent if they could make
seventy five million a year. But I don't know that
that's very feasible. And here's why. If you're looking at
what's going to happen between the Big ten and Fox
and any other media partner. There might be a couple
of other media partners, but are those media partners gonna
want to spend that amount of money per home game?
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That's over ten million per home game? Right? Really twelve
maybe if you if you end up doing the math
on it, the only it's six a year, and so
twelve million per home game. Is that gonna net the
type of return that they're looking for from a TV network?
I don't know, you know, So if they were, like sure,
any any school would look for something like that. The
problem is is if it's like Fox and ESPN who
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get the Big ten media rights, and it's NBC and
CBS Sports left, are they willing to pay that? If not,
you're looking at Fox, who might say, hey, just join
the Big Ten because We're not gonna pay you to
be independent when we know your your alternative is joining
the Big ten where we get all your games right
as opposed to maybe a couple of non conference not
getting But hopefully you follow what I'm saying, like, there's
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just not gonna be as big as a market I
think for them to remain independent to make that sort
of money unless I'm, you know, drastically underestimating what NBC
Sports and CBS Sports is willing to pay for six
home games. I'm I'm just hoping for the sake of
the fans that the product on the field is worth
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all of the business that's being discussed, because if it's
one thing that can can get kind of I guess,
kind of sketchy or or could get kind of weird,
is if the product suffers with all of this realignment
and just all of the the conferences and the discussions
of what what makes the most sense for money and
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different things like that, I think it's just gonna be
I hope it's going to be a good year. I
hope it's going to be one of those type of
years where you see some of the matchups and what
the potential of the future looks like in terms of
the development. Because you know, one thing that I just
continued to think about from just a personal standpoint is
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how I felt about college sports, you know, and and
you know, football and basketball more specifically in particular for me,
and how it felt going into Saturdays and and hearing
the Saturday music come on, and and and knowing that
it was a big East rivalry. You know, it was
the backyard you know, the backyard brawl or you know,
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you you watched the games that took place between the
Florida teams, or you you watched the Florida teams play
Notre Dame, or you know, and and and listen, back then,
Penn State was independent. You know, the Big East was
it was a very a very big prominent UH conference
back then. The a c C was super super prominent
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UM back then and boasted a lot of success from
from their teams. UM. I just I just hope that
it's competitive enough with when when these realignments start to
take place, that the product is what it's supposed to be.
But because it's like I just think back, I'm thinking
to this generation of kids and how will they be
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influenced by you know, the landscape of of what sports
are right now, because it just seems like the business
of it is discussed way more now sport and that's
why I hope that it doesn't take away from the
influence that it has on the next generations, because to me,
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that's how you continue to get a Brady Quinn or
you know, uh, you know a C. J. Spiller or
Joe Hamilton's or you know, Peter Wark or you know.
It's like you know, and I named older names, but
you know, it's it's kind of like for me, I
enjoy watching those guys developed and they developed because well,
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you guys watched college football, We watched collegue football and
wanted to be those guys that we watched. I hope
that remains the same with everything that's going on. I
think the traditions are still going to be there. We
talked about that last week that people look at this
and go, well, with the expansion, you're gonna lose these traditions.
Mike Gundy was talking about Oklahoma Oklahoma State. Is that
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has that gone in a couple of years because they're
leaving the conference. I think that's still there, but I
think there's there's more eyeballs on the sport in general.
So I don't. I don't think you're still gonna have
blowouts because there are teams that are just better than
other teams and that's gonna happen no matter what. But man,
I just go back to last year, like some of
the presentation of college football, not even just on Fox,
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but in general, like some of those big games that
were put together, like some of those moments. I still
think those are there. Like then I just watched it
on TV, Iowa Penn State was fantastic, and it wasn't
even like like just watching it on TV the presentation
of it. I think with networks are realizing the value
of this, players are starting to realize their own value.
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Coaches are trying to catch up to speed on all that.
I think. I still think the sport is in a
good business. Can be a turn off to fans, it
can't and and I don't I don't know how that's
going to be handled or yeah, but I mean it's
easy to say that, but your that's your your clientele,
that that is your market, you know, and and it's
it's just you. It's amateurism, it's amateur sports, and and
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so it will be interesting to see as the n
i L continues to take shape, these different superconferences are
starting to take shape. It's just going to be interesting
to see how the product and the branding what it's
going to be like. For me, that's that's intriguing to
me to see how this this kind of unfolds and
how it develops. Because the business is what's being discussed
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quite a bit, you know, the TV deals, the you know,
who's who's getting you know, look at what we're talking
about as it applies to USC and getting players like
it's it's just, you know, the landscape is changing, and
I just I'm curious as to how, you know, how
the fans, how the fans will react to it. No,
it's it's a very valid point. It feels like the
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discussion is that of a professional sports league. I mean,
that's that's what's tough about it is. I think for
a lot of old school people, in traditionalists, we talk
about college sports as an amateur sport. But you've seen
basically college football in particular, because it's led the way,
has ventured into a realm where it's it's not an
amateur sport at least we're not treating it that way.
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You know, when we put in mechanisms like a transfer
portal that can be utilized like free agency, and now
we have n I L which allows you know players right,
I really should say allows people to abuse. Um, you know,
the rules as it currently stands because there is no oversight,
there's no one checking for tampering. The n c A
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is not doing anything. So um, that's the problem is.
I think we're having so many conversations about it as
a business now because we're looking at it and operating
as more of a national sport. We're just not putting
that label on it. And that's the tough part is
is Yeah, it's hard not to you know, mention the
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business of it because of how many things are changing
right now and how these players are being viewed anymore,
um as professionals and no longer amateur athletes who are
just playing for the education that they're receiving because the
money has gotten so big. So I I understand why
it's gotten this way. Um, And I think, you know,
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I think the players, the kids just to just but
that's just the reality of where we're at. Joey Freshwater
A k Lane Kiffin, the old miss head coach talked
about this situation yesterday at a SEC media days. So
when other people don't say, as you know, so it's
like a payroll. You know in baseball, what teams win
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over a long period of time, Teams that have high
payrolls and can pay players a lot. So, um, we're
in a situation not any different than that. I'm sure
other people said it. I said at day one, you
legalize cheating in so get ready for the people that
have the most money to get the best players. And
now you have it. So it is what it is.
And as far as a general manager to manage that,
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we aren't allowed in the current system to manage what
they make. So um, so there isn't what We're not
there yet and I don't know that we ever will be.
That's just what I said it should be, because that's
what any other you know, professional sports, which is what
we are now does When Lane Kiffin and Nick Saban
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complain about this stuff publicly and you get people to say, well,
it's just sour grapes, deal with it. You got to
open you know, this is now everything is becoming a
little bit more even are they wrong in what they're saying,
and that's that's not what lane Kiffin said. Though, like
lane Kiffin pointed out, I think the opposite of that
is it's not leveling the playing field. I think there
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was a common thought that over time this would level
the playing field, but in fact, what it does is
it distances the bigger programs from others because they're the
ones that have always had more resources, are always had
the greater ability to whether it's recruit or build facilities
or support their team. And that's just gonna come out
and flex muscles even more. But don't they don't have
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to hide anymore. Don't certain states have have more ability
to do this and and govern this and handle this,
and think about certain places. I wouldn't. I wouldn't define
it in that way. What what differentiates is the ability
of the university to take an active approach to it.
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So again, you know, how USC, well that's a separate conversation,
but how USC has you know, looked at the n
I L Walls and the state of California. Their interpretation
is we can help facilitate these deals. That's why they
have their Boulevard inc. Whatever it's called there that that
does that. Whereas other states, don't you know, they don't
have an n i L law, and the n c
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A governance is against that, or at least what they've
stated out there is they don't believe schools should be
able to facilitate deals. So because of that, you get that,
you get this discrepancy between how some schools can act
in other states and others. But as LeVar just said,
then you have collectives, and collectives kind of fill that
gap for those that you know aren't able to facilitate deals,
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to be able to help out their players in doing so,
because that's what these these families are looking for, are
the connecting deals, the deals. And that's why if you're
in a market where where n i L exists at
at all levels and it's legalized, like California, it becomes
a different like USC is in prime pole position to
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become recruiting juggernauts because of what Lane Kiffin was talking
about is the legalize Well, I don't want to be
the one that's his it is his words, but it's
the legalizing of cheating like and what you just said,
the amount of resources that you can offer to it.
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Here's what's surprising to me. Here's what's surprising to me,
say what you just said about USC again, what the
amount of money that they can fork out they can
dish out to get what they want. They can become
a recruiting drug or not. They basically stop right there,
stop right there. Where do you think they're ranked right
now for class this next class? I mean, I don't know.
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I wouldn't say top three. I would probably say not
even maybe in the top twenty, top ten they're that
That would sound about right, But I think that's going
to take time though, because we're just we're just in
the beginning stages of of those But they but you
have to understand, they've had n i L laws for
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the longest period of time as anyone. California was the
most aggressive about implementing n i L laws, So in actuality,
not only has a school which released a video and
the whole Boulevard Inc. Promotional that way before premature, way
before they should of, they've actually had a first mover
advantage of it, and they still can't drum up enough
support amongst their alumni base or even through their school,
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at least at this point, outside of what Lincoln Riley
single handedly did right bringing players with them from Oklahoma,
whether it's Caleb Williams or anyone else. But outside of that,
it still hasn't helped them come back over the top
yet because I think there's there's a lot of people
out there who are skeptical about it. They don't know
if this, if this is gonna last forever. They're not
sure you know what it's gonna look like to three
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years from now. I mean, you heard Lane Kivin talk
about it like, well, why would I have someone who
can manage a cap because you know, we're not there
yet and we're not like there there's a lot of
things that are going on in the world of college
sports where there's a gray area and we just don't
know who's gonna come in and be at an actual
decision maker when it's all recruiting classes in itself becomes
more of a gray area as well, because you're recruiting differently.
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Now you're recruiting other schools, you're recruiting your own school,
you're recruiting to transfer. Well, I mean again, technically junior colleges.
That's not supposed to exist, right n i L wasn't
created for reducement, which is what you're talking about it.
Can it can exist once they get there. But that's
the problem is if that's going on, that's where you
you sit there and say, well that that shouldn't happen.
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It doesn't even happen at a pro level. Why would
we let it happen at a college level. Yeah, Well,
that's that's what's going on, and that's going on to
the point of where it's actually impacting the way high
school kids are getting recruited. There are high school kids
that would have gone D one before that are not
going D one now. They're not even getting looks anymore
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because recruiting has gone towards the transfer portal. It's gone
towards the attention to getting players is not focused on
high school like it once was. Now it's focused in
on the transfer portal, and that it creates a great
area for recruiting. I think what's happened is in recruiting,
you can have a four star, five star, whatever star
rate of kid. The problem is it's still projection. They
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want to have a known commodity where they see you
played the college them. If you can, if you can
grab a kid who's already played you, and you know
what you're dealing with. He's gonna be a quicker fix
than some five star freshman that's or a four star
freshman that's coming in, and you have no idea whether
or not he'll be able to do some of the
things you're gonna asking. The players understand that. So the
loophole and all of this is you're happy, But what's
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up broing you happy? What? What what you're talking about?
Come come here? And then these kids, these kids are
getting an idea of if if hitting the transfer portal
is like like they're doing there now, if you're paying attention,
they're now starting to do announcements in the transfer portal
like I'm I'm leaving and I'll be making my announcement
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on Monday. Like they're doing it the same exact way
that they do it when they're coming out of out
of high school. They're making announcements as to what school
they're going to the next school they're going to transfer to.
So these guys are getting an idea because the transfer
portal can be a dangerous place. If you leave your school,
you can't go back, and if another school doesn't take you,
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you're in limbo. You're sitting at home, or you gotta
go to a juco. So these guys are actually figuring
out there, getting they're getting to a point of where
they can say, Okay, I'm narrowing it down to like
three or four schools that I may want to go to.
How how do you narrow it down? You know what
I mean? Like you have an idea what you're thinking
before you even go into the transfer portal, and then
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that it's a huge point. Now you gotta figure out
and you gotta try to understand, well, how is that?
How do they have that knowledge going into the transfer
portal as to what schools that they want to decide
that they've narrowed it down to where they want to go.
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Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. We were talking
about big SEC Media Days and Lane Kiffin obviously talking,
Greg Sanky talking yeah. I don't know if you saw this, Brady,
but Brian Kelly was also talking. Um. He was. He
was making the rounds at SEC Media Days, uh. And
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in fact, he joked about not only his his new accent,
but also talked about the state of Notre Dame. Let's
take a listen to the l s U head coach.
I understand how I have a Boston Midwestern Louisiana accent now,
so you know you're it's three dialects into one. So
it's no longer family. I got like all kinds of
stuff to throw at you, so just be ready. Certainly
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Notre Dame still is a coveted you know, uh university
in terms of you know what conference would want him.
You know, Jack's Warberk knows what he's doing. He's got
his his ear to the ground and they're gonna land
into a good position no matter what they do, whether
they stay independent or whether they go into the you know,
one of the other conferences, you know, Notre Dame can
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can care itself pretty good. He almost said a big ten. Yeah,
well he's a you know, ninety million dollars. Well, I
think I think if you asked him, he probably would
have said, like, that's the conference that makes the most sense.
I mean, most people have said that for a long time. Um,
what got cut out was at one point he didn't
talk about not being focused on that at all and
instead being more focused on his his his golf game
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so or accent because he's got some new words to
throw out at everybody. You know, yeah, is he uh,
how disliked is he in south Man? Now? I mean
people understand well, I think people understood the movie. They
didn't like how he went about doing it. But here's
the problem is, when you are it was just called
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a slew berty. I think you threw head coaches into that,
right you've become, Especially in college towns, I think there's
always that how do I put this, There's always that
thing that people are kind of looking to not like
you for right, because it's like human nature is to
be jealous. We honestly can't help it. And I feel
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like there's always that little something where there's everyone's looking
for a reason to not like you, right, even if
you treat him great, even if if you've you've never
harmed them before, you've always provide them opportunities, you've done
great things, They're always looking for that reason not to
like you or to be jealous. And that the way
he left, I think just it gave you that one
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thing that if if you liked him before or you
weren't sure before, it gives you that excuse. He gives
you that reason they're not like him. And that's where
I feel like, That's where I feel like the Notre
Dame fan base is because look, he did a lot
of good things. He's won more games as a Notre
Dame head coach than anyone in the history of Notre
Dame football. Um, but you know, in in saying in
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the way he left now, it tarnishes some of that
because it's the people who, you know, one day we
would want him to come back. They're gonna remember how
he left. Like people don't forget that that sort of thing. So, um,
I don't. I don't feel like there's a lot of
people who are necessarily you know, out there even focusing
on caring on that. I think they've literally moved on
to Marcus Freeman and and the optimism of what he
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will bring. I I'm interested in how he's going to
do at l s U because, like you mentioned, he
did do a lot of good things at at Notre
Dame games at Notre Dame in twelve years, and that's
I mean, He's played some teams, he's been in some
battles with with with the fighting Irish. So I'm interested
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to see what he does. I'm interested to see if
he can make l s U a contender again, because
if he can, then it's it's like, yeah, it he
did leave and and and not such a professional manner,
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but people always remember winning and and if he's successful
then it's just one of those things like I don't
know how much it matters, Like will people care about
the way Nick Saban left, you know, Michigan State. Do
we remember how he left Michigan State? Do do people
recall how he left that l s U? Do we
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remember how he left at l s U. Like it's
like it doesn't matter because his success at Alabama is
so pronounced and it's so undisputed that you're looking at
the success of it. I'm curious, can he continue because
he has had a history of of success. Can he
continue that at l s U. Because that's a that's
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a school that when they're better, when they're good, when
they're competitive college football is better. Like that's one of
those teams. You like to see L s U be good,
so it'll be interesting and and his accent, of course,
that would be interesting to hear as well. I when
they threw out and I think it was Brian Kelly
who made the comments, something along the lines of, you know,
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I wanted to go somewhere and be able to compete
for national championships. There there was something like that that
was thrown out there, which is, you know, a little
bit of a dig on Notre Dame. I actually think
he would have had a better chance at winning a
national championship had he stayed at Notre Dame than going
to l s U, just because I feel like in
the sec who the hell knows, Like if you if
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you just looked at whatever the odds are I mean,
Arkansas has picked ahead of L s U more more
likely to win the SEC championship, like the you know, Florida, Ole, Miss, Tennessee, Bama, Georgia,
A and M like all those schools are projected to
finish better than L s U when it comes to
winning the SEC according to oddsmakers. I just the idea
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that he's been to the college football playoff at Notre
Dame what two or three times, and at least twice
there was the man taken't make it to the championship.
They went to the national Championship with the BCS that
linebacker right Manto, that was the man Tito year um
where they got beat by Alabama. Um. But I just
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so the idea that it's just gonna be he's more competitive,
more likely to win a national championship going to L
s U. I just I don't buy it. I mean,
I would bet bet right now he's not winning a
national championship at L s U. I just I don't
think it's happening. I think Nick Saban, you know, being
there at Alabama hurts, you know, the opportunity. And I
think the other interesting thing is like how much harder.
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It will be that Oklahoma and Texas are gonna be
joining at some point, you know, I think that does
you know, they may not be, you know, a dominant
team in that conference at least not while Nick Saban
in Alabama and what Kirby Smarts built at Georgia and
what they're doing. But I think it adds more parity,
you know, it adds more opportunities to stumble. I think
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Home is you know, built right now to win, and
in Texass trying to get there right. I mean, they
think they're back or they keep talking about being back.
I'm not sure until we see them have success and
maybe they'll win the Big Twelve this year. But um,
the truth is there's a lot of parody, there's a
lot of competition in the SEC. So well, we'll see
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how things work out for him. I mean you have
to look at this. I think he's been a more
successful coach than less Miles was before he went to
l s U and Edwards wrong before he was um
when when he went to l s U. So if
history was to repeat itself, I think he's a better
head coach in that regard. So you would expect him
to win one if those two were both able to
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win one. Yeah, it'd be interesting to see because if
he gets to to that point, then you're certain to
hear him say his family again and again and again.
And he ain't I ain't done winning, he said, He's
got a lot more to throw out at people. So
I mean, I mean he's expecting to win like that.
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Dude's got an ego and a half man like you
ain't done winning winning. It's just so funny, right, and
it's almost like just not a care in the world,
Like this is who I am. Yeah, you're right, I
am everything that you thought I was. What everybody said
about me leaving Cincinnati to go to Notre Dame, all
of that was true. Like, well, let me let me
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throw out one status you because I mean there's always
this idea that, um, you know, you can't recruit Anotre Dame,
and there's just I mean, there was a general thought
that he felt like he wasn't gonna be able to
recruit an Notre Dame or win a Notre Dame because
of you know, certain things. Um. The recruiting class curly
for class at Notre Dame is the highest ranked and
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higher than any ranked class that Brian Kelly ever had
over his twelve years span there. So it apparently, and
and the knock was always Brian Kelly wasn't really the
guy that was gonna go out and and be recruiting
hard and be on the recruiting trail. He's more focused
on his golf game. So it's that's a real thing.
I mean, and it's I mean, you just look at that.
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You know, Marcus Freeman and his first year as head
coach has already surpassed any recruiting ranking that Brian Kelly
did over his entire career. That now, that doesn't necessarily
mean you become a good head coach. It's just one
piece of it. Yes, Like well, I think I think
recruiting or Urban Meyer constantly talked about when he worked
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with us on our show on Big New Kickoff, that
recruiting is the lifeblood of college football. And it's true.
And if you're not working at it, like you're going
to get beat. So that's what I'm curious to see it.
It's not so much if he's a good coach. He
can coach football, you can manage his staff. To me,
it's about if he's willing to put in the time
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and effort in order to to recruit the way he
needs to against the Alabama's, against the Georgia, against eventually
Oklahoma and Texas and everyone else within the SEC. Because
that's where it's different. You don't have the unique pitch
of saying like, hey, we're Notre Dame. No no no, no. Now,
your pitch is like, well, yeah, you're You're just one
amongst many in the SEC, and you've got to you
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gotta figure out that landscape. So what are the better
golf courses in Louisiana or in Indiana? I mean like, like,
what are the what's the big time golf course in
Indiana out there next next to South Bend? That would
be uh, like, where's where is he a member to this?
Brian Kelly? I don't, I don't know. I mean we
gotta we gotta get to the bottom of that. That's
this is important stuff here. I want to know everything
(43:34):
about his golf. How much do what your schedule? Is
your schedule too hectic for you to golf? Yeah? I
trust me. I'm not in a good, good place right now.
I'm not. I'm not at liberty to talk about how
bad my golf has gotten. So I'm embarrassed, yes, but
like I just my my my handicap index went up significantly,
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and I'm quite embarrassed about it. It's just golf. Who cares?
I care? I mean it's competitive. I care about it.
Like it's just you know, you don't like not being
as good as you feel like you could be. And
I don't get to play that much. So I'm embarrassed.
I don't really you need you on some tips you
want to help you out with that? I mean I
want nothing from you. I would love I would love
to have a drink. I feel like he provides some
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some good wisdom. Hey listen, I'll like, let me just
say this, all right, and I'll just hear me out
on this. So you want to make sure you're locking
your fingers on the club, all right? I would recommend
going with one glove. But but if you don't want
to go with any gloves, if you feel like you've
got a strong enough grip, that's fine. And also the
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goal is to make it into the hole on as
few as shots as possible. Wow, So if you can
do that, I feel I'm optimistic that we could turn
this whole thing around. Just I just I want, I
want to I want to be clear on that. So again,
if you need anything else, just just hit me up.
You know what I can do. What about discovering? Yeah,
(45:02):
I mean, well, listen, I've got to discover yourself. Should
do Yeah, everybody has to discover themselves. Brady's going to
discover that his golf game is in fact intact. Well
before you transition to your discovery, which I know you're
about to do. What are you talking about? Um, I
do have something for the b Q News that I
just I just I want to throw out there. I'm
gonna need each of your zodiac signs. I'm a cancer. Okay,
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Gemini sounds negative, but you are a Gemini about that stuff? No,
not really, I'm just saying I know Gemini is double, right,
isn't that multiple? Isn't that like a don't ask me.
I don't know. I like to face something like that.
I believe to face. Yeah, I don't know, because I
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I focus on like at the bottom when it says
for entertainment purposes only. That's why I don't plan my
schedule around my horoscope sign. You know, like like a
lot of these losers do that. You know, what's my
signs say today, your symbol is a twin. I got
an idea, you've got multiple personality. How A would you
get up off your fat ass and go work out
and forget about what your sign says focus, because that's
(46:13):
what I do. I'm too fast. That's your twin symbol
coming out, that's your main symbol. Yeah, we'll come back
to your nice symbol. Okay, all right, I'll discover at
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Did you guys happen to watch the home run derby
at all? It's an exhibition event, so I don't know
how you feel about these exhibition events. Just curious. But
I watched a little bit um and honestly, I was exhausted,
(00:25):
so it didn't It was almost like a normal regular
season baseball game. Asleep, good, good, good nap viewing for you. Good. Uh,
gonna get a nice little snooze in. All right, let
me because I just want to throw this out because
I found myself thinking about this while I throw it out. Okay,
all right, oh something now not the topic. You're gonna
(00:49):
throw something out there about the topic. Do you enjoy
the home run Derby or the slam dunk contest more?
But you gotta pick one? Really? Okay? These days? Yeah,
come on, I mean, honestly, it's tough these days. But
I still think I've like memories of Vince Carter and
(01:12):
those dunk conto was there I was at that one? Yeah,
So so I'm saying like that's still to me, like
when I watched the dunk contest, I'm like, maybe I'm
gonna see something I've never seen before. And in the
home run Derby, it's like, all right, I get it,
you know. And by the way, Pete Alonso doing dead
lifts in full uniform in between rounds. Everybody, Okay, come
(01:35):
on man? Thats it was to say it's a bit
over the top, No, because at least he had sleeves on, right,
there were there were sleeves on a shirt. But for
Christ's sakes, dude, it's a home run derby. Relax a
(01:55):
little bit. You've already won a couple of times. Everybody
else is having a good time, they're hanging out, and
he's in the clubhouse doing dead lifts. Yeah, come on, man,
that's yeah. We're going to go over the and of
the contest. We're talking about you. Well, I don't know.
I don't know. I would have no idea. That's why
(02:15):
I was curious. Who would have won? I mean, does
it even leave and catch the results of it? Yeah?
I think got lead it. What are we what are
the updates on the well? LaVar was right that there
would be a ball hit out of Dodger Stadium. And
Kuna hit that hit that boom. Did I have that too?
You did? Yeah, you both had that, Jonas, you're the
(02:37):
only one that had a left you winning always to
the left. Nobody hit a home run over over four
nine one. Actually, Alonso and Soto both hit one over
for eighty, but nobody hit one over foe. So who
got that? No, nobody got so let's so Lea's projection
on Friday of longest home run literally didn't come within
(03:00):
forty ft of the actual number that was hit. So
burto let me down is what you guys are saying. Good, Yeah,
anymore that Berto let me down? We uh, let's see
what else did Burto do for you? I don't know,
just kid. It was odd that LaVar wanted to go
into this because it was all burtos pick right. I
wanted to say, Berto one for us. You want to
(03:20):
see if you have won. But yeah, so if I lose,
it's its vote. If I win, then we worked together. Well,
you you did tie with Brady for for last place.
For last place, yes, one, each Jon has actually one
with three that's yeah. Look how hey, look how happily
is about that? Yeah? Man, he's back there with a
big grin on his face, like, yeah, my Janat's one
(03:44):
yea yay, my Donat. Why can't he stand up? Brady
was too excited, like it pulled a back muscle or something. Yeah,
I don't know. I don't know what you're getting at there.
We got no uh so we do have the home
run Derby's in the books. We got the All Star
(04:06):
Game coming up later on, and who knows. Yeah, I
know everybody's fired up about that as well too. Now
let's let's get to the matter in hand here. Deshaun
Watson again, Come on again, what do you want for?
I don't know. I don't have to tell you. What
do you want heded? All right? All right? Do you
(04:27):
want to talk about the Texans angle or the Deshaun
Watson potentially suing the NFL if he's suspended for a
full year angle? Which which one do you want to
go with? All right? You gotta pick one? You pick one? Okay,
you pick one. Split the difference, LaVar, split the difference.
What do you want to do? Texans angle? Alright? So
(04:50):
the Houston Texans, there's some discussion now that they've settled
the thirty lawsuits. Are the Texans going to be punished
by the NFL or is there going to be an
invest instigation done into the Houston Texans, which is fair,
but I just I get the feeling that it's not
gonna happen, and I don't know, I just feel like
(05:11):
the Texans smoke that there's not as big of a
fire there as maybe some people think, because it feels
like to me, and this is just my opinion that
I don't think this was an organizational situation where they
were trying to help him as much as maybe it
was one guy who went rogue who was the head
of security, yeah, and giving them blank nondisclosure agreements, you know,
(05:37):
setting up and so so here's the no, here, here's
the case. This is how this works. If this guy
did the exact same thing for every other player, your
defense is gonna be. How is it any different. It's
not on this individual or the organization that this is
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how we set it up for all our players, and
we just had one bad apple who wanted to take
advantage of that, right And then they might come back
and say, well, I mean sixty different massage therapists over
a year and a half, and he might say, well,
I didn't know who these people were. I was just
setting it up for him like we do every other player.
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And that's where it becomes kind of okay. Like at
some point, I mean, and especially in a court of law,
there's gotta be a sense of accountability, like, yeah, there's
a there's liability as well. But I think that's where
the Houston Texans are probably going to be able to
make a case for themselves that they weren't involved. It
just comes down to if they settled thirty different cases
(06:41):
and they're trying to position themselves by saying we had
no involved, we didn't do anything wrong, why do you settle?
I mean, why do you settle because you were worried
about the pr backlash If you then had these lawsuits
out against you where you're worried about what became public
and discovery or what would come to to the to
the light of a yes, otherwise, like what was the
(07:02):
point of settling if you're trying to say you did
nothing wrong? So that's where they're there, you know, would
be potentially an opportunity I think for something something to
look a little deeper in the Houston Texans to really
figure out what went wrong or what didn't. I wonder
how much of this had already been discussed and disclosed
between the Texas and the NFL before we got to
(07:25):
this point. Again, I don't this was not an overnight situation,
So whatever it was, it was taking place over a
period of time. I mean there's multiple overnight by the way,
by the way with within the a's that were involved,
by the way, sixty different. I just can't get over
(07:46):
it because it's been there longer than eighteen months. That
was just over an eighteen month period. It probably isn't
a habit that just started. So let's just assume there's
a lot more in sixty totally agree, and I'm surprised
that this hasn't been that there hasn't been any any
sort of tracking back to A. Was some of this
(08:06):
going on at Clemson? No, I'm serious, like, like what
was was? What was happening back when he was a Tiger? Yeah,
Like it's like ra LaVar um. I don't know, man,
I just feel like this whole situation, it sounds like
there was a lot of money exchange, and so now
you gotta assume that maybe an I don't know, representation
(08:30):
recruiters would have been involved. In his his his habit,
his addiction, because I mean there's money exchanging and these things,
there's n das that are exchanging. Maybe he waited until
he became a professional. Maybe this developed once he became
a professional. It's like how It's like, how do you
develop that as your fetish? Like? How did that happen?
(08:52):
That's all I know is this is it's a it's
a new definition for a five handshake, if you know
what I mean. Yeah, that really does change the way
think about that because it's usually not just want that
handshake is. Yeah, it's just the money's being donated somewhere
else and shaking still going on. I mean, how many ndia'
s did you hand out? And if you hand it here?
See here's where I'm trying to understand the whole Texans aspect,
(09:14):
the angle of it. You could say that you you
provide the same service for everyone else. That's fine, But
at what point do you say, Hey, hey, Deshaun man Um,
why why do you get so many nda s? Bro
Like and if I'm Deshaun Watson, why would you get that?
Didn't they say that he handed him out like a
handful of him or something? Is that what I read,
(09:34):
So he could he could have said, though there for
general business matters, right, maybe hey, it's for my cleaning lady.
Maybe it's for my pool guys, and that's fair, and
that is fair. That is maybe he asked for a
stack and he said, look, give me a bunch, or
I can copy this now, and so maybe that's fair.
So then now the question goes to was there anything Oh,
(09:58):
hold on, that's normal. No, it's not normal. That's not normal,
but it's fair because if somebody comes into your home,
you know, you don't want people to valuate your home life.
So it is a possibility. It's yes, I'm not yeah,
no I'm not being smart. I'm not being a smart
if that's if that's not outside of the people walking
(10:21):
around your home, you know, different things like that. Yeah,
you don't want them to be you know, be privy
as something or yeah, I mean there's all sorts of
difference scenarios. You'd like for people not to be able
to talk about you if something happened, right, you want
to protect yourself in that way. Yeah, that that and
that makes that now that there's that's feasible, that's feasible.
(10:42):
So then now the question becomes if if there was more,
and that would be the question as to would there
be an investigation about the NFL did they know more?
And if they knew more, then what was that more?
What was the extent of that more or who within
the organization knew the extent of that more and didn't
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say anything? Because to me, you can't get uh thirty
settlements off of saying yep, I was one of the
ones that got an n d A. Pay me. Doesn't
work that way. I'm sorry, it doesn't work that way. Yep, yep, Yeah,
I got an India I saw. Here is my n
d A from the Houston Texans that I signed for
Deshaun Watson. Pay me, Like, No, that's there's more to it,
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Like just though, there's more to it than that that thing,
and I wonder what that is? And then now that
would say for me, is that is that worth the
investigation from the NFL? And what would that you know,
what would that discipline look like? Who gets disciplined there?
Do they lose a draft pick? Do they get fine? Like?
What does that discipline look like? At some point you
gotta ask yourself, is there is there ever a discipline
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to the NFL, you know what I mean, Like, is
there a discipline to the NFL? Like they can't be
disciplined as a private like they are the discipline. So
it's just kind of like to me, it's like, all,
are you doing an investigation? But what is that going
to lead to? Like how are you going to punish
them over what happened with the shan? Yeah, you know,
like what's the what's the what's the investigation about? Well,
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I mean you know, but now you can change it
to the shan now if you want to go over
to the Shan or we could go to a break
well no, I mean that's it. But again, this is
the radio formatics that I've learned from Brady Quinn. We'll
just reset the topic later on with different a Watson Radio.
So welcome into and Watson Radio everyone. I'm Joe nads Knots.
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So we are going to uh not in my pants now?
Who knows? Maybe my pants pass by the way. So
are we doing this? Uh? You want to do this?
Start doing the division previews? Now? How do we want
to do this later on in the show, because Brady,
you were talking maybe bang out a couple of divisions
each day leading up to training camps. You don't think
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that was the most and a apropriate uh saying for
this segment and bang out and bang it out, bang
out a few things I didn't tell you any ank
or grab anything said bang it out. Love about what
I love about Burts. He has those like so like
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quick yeah, oh, those are the ones he loves. Yeah,
but he's got it like right there. If you can
see his face, I love it. He makes the funniest
faces when he's hitting them sound effects. What I want
to know is, can you can you give me the oh?
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Radio app. So it is media days around the world
of college football. The SEC had their media Days. I
did like how when these coaches came up, they had
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this big screen background behind them. The SEC does it right, man.
They really present these guys as if they're the stars
of the conference, like all of them with these big
it looks like a WrestleMania entrants big time. But it
was SEC media days there, the commissioner Greg Sanky pointed
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out that they're not looking to expand anymore. I think
this is something Brady you talked about. Why why split
the pie anymore if you're the place to be after
Texas and Oklahoma arrive. So it seems to make some sense.
It's just so people at home like understand this, like
more results not always better. Yeah, I mean quality is
what matters the most, and and more so than that,
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it's all in the vessel. Yeah. Yeah. If you look
at the trends, I mean of consumption of football for
college football, it's still a growing landscape. In regards to
the TV rights, it's very healthy. It hasn't been impacted
by the fracturing of broadcast versus cable and then cord
cutting that goes along with that. That hasn't biggest, big
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of an issue for for college football. So it's still
been a growing landscape. And I think a lot of
the conferences are starting to realize the power that they have.
Hence the reason why the SEC and the Big tent
of distanced themselves from everyone else as far as what
their TV media rights deal is gonna look like. And
and if you're the SEC. It's not just about splitting
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up the pie. It's also about allowing that to continue
to grow. In order to do that, you can't get
bigger unless you find someone who comes in and brings
greater value. And right now there's just there's no real
other brands outside of Notre Dame. And I don't know
that it it makes as much geographical sense or any
sense given the schedule they typically play, to have them
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join a conference that you know they they're seeing in
big ten countries, so that probably makes more sense. But um,
you know there's headlines involving Notre Dame that are out
there now obviously going around. What do you mean, like,
what headlines are you talking about? Dennis Dodd of CBS
was pointing out was a seventy five million dollars. Well,
first off, if the Big Tennis, I mean, and again
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you have to you have to kick everything with a
grain assault because the numbers that are projected also by
Dennis doddter that the Big ten is gonna get eighty
two hundred million a year. Um, those are I don't
know who he talks to. I know, I know he
burned a lot of bridges that Notre Dame this past
summer after misquoting Marcus Freeman. So I can assure you
note a Notre Dames telling Dennis dot anything. But of course,
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any school could would remain independent if they could make
seventy five million a year. But I don't know that
that's very feasible. And here's why. If you're looking at
what's going to happen between the Big ten and Fox
and any other media partner. There might be a couple
of other media partners, but are those media partners gonna
want to spend that amount of money per home game?
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That's over ten million per home game? Right? Really twelve
maybe if you if you end up doing the math
on it, the only it's six a year, and so
twelve million per home game. Is that gonna net the
type of return that they're looking for from a TV network?
I don't know, you know, So if they were, like sure,
any any school would look for something like that. The
problem is is if it's like Fox and ESPN who
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get the Big ten media rights, and it's NBC and
CBS Sports left, are they willing to pay that? If not,
you're looking at Fox, who might say, hey, just join
the Big Ten because We're not gonna pay you to
be independent when we know your your alternative is joining
the Big ten where we get all your games right
as opposed to maybe a couple of non conference not
getting But hopefully you follow what I'm saying, like, there's
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just not gonna be as big as a market I
think for them to remain independent to make that sort
of money unless I'm, you know, drastically underestimating what NBC
Sports and CBS Sports is willing to pay for six
home games. I'm I'm just hoping for the sake of
the fans that the product on the field is worth
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all of the business that's being discussed, because if it's
one thing that can can get kind of I guess,
kind of sketchy or or could get kind of weird,
is if the product suffers with all of this realignment
and just all of the the conferences and the discussions
of what what makes the most sense for money and
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different things like that, I think it's just gonna be
I hope it's going to be a good year. I
hope it's going to be one of those type of
years where you see some of the matchups and what
the potential of the future looks like in terms of
the development. Because you know, one thing that I just
continued to think about from just a personal standpoint is
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how I felt about college sports, you know, and and
you know, football and basketball more specifically in particular for me,
and how it felt going into Saturdays and and hearing
the Saturday music come on, and and and knowing that
it was a big East rivalry. You know, it was
the backyard you know, the backyard brawl or you know,
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you you watched the games that took place between the
Florida teams, or you you watched the Florida teams play
Notre Dame, or you know, and and and listen, back then,
Penn State was independent. You know, the Big East was
it was a very a very big prominent UH conference
back then. The a c C was super super prominent
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UM back then and boasted a lot of success from
from their teams. UM. I just I just hope that
it's competitive enough with when when these realignments start to
take place, that the product is what it's supposed to be.
But because it's like I just think back, I'm thinking
to this generation of kids and how will they be
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influenced by you know, the landscape of of what sports
are right now, because it just seems like the business
of it is discussed way more now sport and that's
why I hope that it doesn't take away from the
influence that it has on the next generations, because to me,
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that's how you continue to get a Brady Quinn or
you know, uh, you know a C. J. Spiller or
Joe Hamilton's or you know, Peter Wark or you know.
It's like you know, and I named older names, but
you know, it's it's kind of like for me, I
enjoy watching those guys developed and they developed because well,
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you guys watched college football, We watched collegue football and
wanted to be those guys that we watched. I hope
that remains the same with everything that's going on. I
think the traditions are still going to be there. We
talked about that last week that people look at this
and go, well, with the expansion, you're gonna lose these traditions.
Mike Gundy was talking about Oklahoma Oklahoma State. Is that
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has that gone in a couple of years because they're
leaving the conference. I think that's still there, but I
think there's there's more eyeballs on the sport in general.
So I don't. I don't think you're still gonna have
blowouts because there are teams that are just better than
other teams and that's gonna happen no matter what. But man,
I just go back to last year, like some of
the presentation of college football, not even just on Fox,
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but in general, like some of those big games that
were put together, like some of those moments. I still
think those are there. Like then I just watched it
on TV, Iowa Penn State was fantastic, and it wasn't
even like like just watching it on TV the presentation
of it. I think with networks are realizing the value
of this, players are starting to realize their own value.
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Coaches are trying to catch up to speed on all that.
I think. I still think the sport is in a
good business. Can be a turn off to fans, it
can't and and I don't I don't know how that's
going to be handled or yeah, but I mean it's
easy to say that, but your that's your your clientele,
that that is your market, you know, and and it's
it's just you. It's amateurism, it's amateur sports, and and
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so it will be interesting to see as the n
i L continues to take shape, these different superconferences are
starting to take shape. It's just going to be interesting
to see how the product and the branding what it's
going to be like. For me, that's that's intriguing to
me to see how this this kind of unfolds and
how it develops. Because the business is what's being discussed
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quite a bit, you know, the TV deals, the you know,
who's who's getting you know, look at what we're talking
about as it applies to USC and getting players like
it's it's just, you know, the landscape is changing, and
I just I'm curious as to how, you know, how
the fans, how the fans will react to it. No,
it's it's a very valid point. It feels like the
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discussion is that of a professional sports league. I mean,
that's that's what's tough about it is. I think for
a lot of old school people, in traditionalists, we talk
about college sports as an amateur sport. But you've seen
basically college football in particular, because it's led the way,
has ventured into a realm where it's it's not an
amateur sport at least we're not treating it that way.
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You know, when we put in mechanisms like a transfer
portal that can be utilized like free agency, and now
we have n I L which allows you know players right,
I really should say allows people to abuse. Um, you know,
the rules as it currently stands because there is no oversight,
there's no one checking for tampering. The n c A
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is not doing anything. So um, that's the problem is.
I think we're having so many conversations about it as
a business now because we're looking at it and operating
as more of a national sport. We're just not putting
that label on it. And that's the tough part is
is Yeah, it's hard not to you know, mention the
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business of it because of how many things are changing
right now and how these players are being viewed anymore,
um as professionals and no longer amateur athletes who are
just playing for the education that they're receiving because the
money has gotten so big. So I I understand why
it's gotten this way. Um, And I think, you know,
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I think the players, the kids just to just but
that's just the reality of where we're at. Joey Freshwater
A k Lane Kiffin, the old miss head coach talked
about this situation yesterday at a SEC media days. So
when other people don't say, as you know, so it's
like a payroll. You know in baseball, what teams win
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over a long period of time, Teams that have high
payrolls and can pay players a lot. So, um, we're
in a situation not any different than that. I'm sure
other people said it. I said at day one, you
legalize cheating in so get ready for the people that
have the most money to get the best players. And
now you have it. So it is what it is.
And as far as a general manager to manage that,
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we aren't allowed in the current system to manage what
they make. So um, so there isn't what We're not
there yet and I don't know that we ever will be.
That's just what I said it should be, because that's
what any other you know, professional sports, which is what
we are now does When Lane Kiffin and Nick Saban
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complain about this stuff publicly and you get people to say, well,
it's just sour grapes, deal with it. You got to
open you know, this is now everything is becoming a
little bit more even are they wrong in what they're saying,
and that's that's not what lane Kiffin said. Though, like
lane Kiffin pointed out, I think the opposite of that
is it's not leveling the playing field. I think there
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was a common thought that over time this would level
the playing field, but in fact, what it does is
it distances the bigger programs from others because they're the
ones that have always had more resources, are always had
the greater ability to whether it's recruit or build facilities
or support their team. And that's just gonna come out
and flex muscles even more. But don't they don't have
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to hide anymore. Don't certain states have have more ability
to do this and and govern this and handle this,
and think about certain places. I wouldn't. I wouldn't define
it in that way. What what differentiates is the ability
of the university to take an active approach to it.
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So again, you know, how USC, well that's a separate conversation,
but how USC has you know, looked at the n
I L Walls and the state of California. Their interpretation
is we can help facilitate these deals. That's why they
have their Boulevard inc. Whatever it's called there that that
does that. Whereas other states, don't you know, they don't
have an n i L law, and the n c
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A governance is against that, or at least what they've
stated out there is they don't believe schools should be
able to facilitate deals. So because of that, you get that,
you get this discrepancy between how some schools can act
in other states and others. But as LeVar just said,
then you have collectives, and collectives kind of fill that
gap for those that you know aren't able to facilitate deals,
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to be able to help out their players in doing so,
because that's what these these families are looking for, are
the connecting deals, the deals. And that's why if you're
in a market where where n i L exists at
at all levels and it's legalized, like California, it becomes
a different like USC is in prime pole position to
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become recruiting juggernauts because of what Lane Kiffin was talking
about is the legalize Well, I don't want to be
the one that's his it is his words, but it's
the legalizing of cheating like and what you just said,
the amount of resources that you can offer to it.
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Here's what's surprising to me. Here's what's surprising to me,
say what you just said about USC again, what the
amount of money that they can fork out they can
dish out to get what they want. They can become
a recruiting drug or not. They basically stop right there,
stop right there. Where do you think they're ranked right
now for class this next class? I mean, I don't know.
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I wouldn't say top three. I would probably say not
even maybe in the top twenty, top ten they're that
That would sound about right, But I think that's going
to take time though, because we're just we're just in
the beginning stages of of those But they but you
have to understand, they've had n i L laws for
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the longest period of time as anyone. California was the
most aggressive about implementing n i L laws, So in actuality,
not only has a school which released a video and
the whole Boulevard Inc. Promotional that way before premature, way
before they should of, they've actually had a first mover
advantage of it, and they still can't drum up enough
support amongst their alumni base or even through their school,
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at least at this point, outside of what Lincoln Riley
single handedly did right bringing players with them from Oklahoma,
whether it's Caleb Williams or anyone else. But outside of that,
it still hasn't helped them come back over the top
yet because I think there's there's a lot of people
out there who are skeptical about it. They don't know
if this, if this is gonna last forever. They're not
sure you know what it's gonna look like to three
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years from now. I mean, you heard Lane Kivin talk
about it like, well, why would I have someone who
can manage a cap because you know, we're not there
yet and we're not like there there's a lot of
things that are going on in the world of college
sports where there's a gray area and we just don't
know who's gonna come in and be at an actual
decision maker when it's all recruiting classes in itself becomes
more of a gray area as well, because you're recruiting differently.
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Now you're recruiting other schools, you're recruiting your own school,
you're recruiting to transfer. Well, I mean again, technically junior colleges.
That's not supposed to exist, right n i L wasn't
created for reducement, which is what you're talking about it.
Can it can exist once they get there. But that's
the problem is if that's going on, that's where you
you sit there and say, well that that shouldn't happen.
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It doesn't even happen at a pro level. Why would
we let it happen at a college level. Yeah, Well,
that's that's what's going on, and that's going on to
the point of where it's actually impacting the way high
school kids are getting recruited. There are high school kids
that would have gone D one before that are not
going D one now. They're not even getting looks anymore
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because recruiting has gone towards the transfer portal. It's gone
towards the attention to getting players is not focused on
high school like it once was. Now it's focused in
on the transfer portal, and that it creates a great
area for recruiting. I think what's happened is in recruiting,
you can have a four star, five star, whatever star
rate of kid. The problem is it's still projection. They
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want to have a known commodity where they see you
played the college them. If you can, if you can
grab a kid who's already played you, and you know
what you're dealing with. He's gonna be a quicker fix
than some five star freshman that's or a four star
freshman that's coming in, and you have no idea whether
or not he'll be able to do some of the
things you're gonna asking. The players understand that. So the
loophole and all of this is you're happy, But what's
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up broing you happy? What? What what you're talking about?
Come come here? And then these kids, these kids are
getting an idea of if if hitting the transfer portal
is like like they're doing there now, if you're paying attention,
they're now starting to do announcements in the transfer portal
like I'm I'm leaving and I'll be making my announcement
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on Monday. Like they're doing it the same exact way
that they do it when they're coming out of out
of high school. They're making announcements as to what school
they're going to the next school they're going to transfer to.
So these guys are getting an idea because the transfer
portal can be a dangerous place. If you leave your school,
you can't go back, and if another school doesn't take you,
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you're in limbo. You're sitting at home, or you gotta
go to a juco. So these guys are actually figuring
out there, getting they're getting to a point of where
they can say, Okay, I'm narrowing it down to like
three or four schools that I may want to go to.
How how do you narrow it down? You know what
I mean? Like you have an idea what you're thinking
before you even go into the transfer portal, and then
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that it's a huge point. Now you gotta figure out
and you gotta try to understand, well, how is that?
How do they have that knowledge going into the transfer
portal as to what schools that they want to decide
that they've narrowed it down to where they want to go.
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with Ben Mallow on the I Heart Radio app, Apple
Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. We were talking
about big SEC Media Days and Lane Kiffin obviously talking,
Greg Sanky talking yeah. I don't know if you saw this, Brady,
but Brian Kelly was also talking. Um. He was. He
was making the rounds at SEC Media Days, uh. And
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in fact, he joked about not only his his new accent,
but also talked about the state of Notre Dame. Let's
take a listen to the l s U head coach.
I understand how I have a Boston Midwestern Louisiana accent now,
so you know you're it's three dialects into one. So
it's no longer family. I got like all kinds of
stuff to throw at you, so just be ready. Certainly
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Notre Dame still is a coveted you know, uh university
in terms of you know what conference would want him.
You know, Jack's Warberk knows what he's doing. He's got
his his ear to the ground and they're gonna land
into a good position no matter what they do, whether
they stay independent or whether they go into the you know,
one of the other conferences, you know, Notre Dame can
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can care itself pretty good. He almost said a big ten. Yeah,
well he's a you know, ninety million dollars. Well, I
think I think if you asked him, he probably would
have said, like, that's the conference that makes the most sense.
I mean, most people have said that for a long time. Um,
what got cut out was at one point he didn't
talk about not being focused on that at all and
instead being more focused on his his his golf game
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so or accent because he's got some new words to
throw out at everybody. You know, yeah, is he uh,
how disliked is he in south Man? Now? I mean
people understand well, I think people understood the movie. They
didn't like how he went about doing it. But here's
the problem is, when you are it was just called
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a slew berty. I think you threw head coaches into that,
right you've become, Especially in college towns, I think there's
always that how do I put this, There's always that
thing that people are kind of looking to not like
you for right, because it's like human nature is to
be jealous. We honestly can't help it. And I feel
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like there's always that little something where there's everyone's looking
for a reason to not like you, right, even if
you treat him great, even if if you've you've never
harmed them before, you've always provide them opportunities, you've done
great things, They're always looking for that reason not to
like you or to be jealous. And that the way
he left, I think just it gave you that one
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thing that if if you liked him before or you
weren't sure before, it gives you that excuse. He gives
you that reason they're not like him. And that's where
I feel like, That's where I feel like the Notre
Dame fan base is because look, he did a lot
of good things. He's won more games as a Notre
Dame head coach than anyone in the history of Notre
Dame football. Um, but you know, in in saying in
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the way he left now, it tarnishes some of that
because it's the people who, you know, one day we
would want him to come back. They're gonna remember how
he left. Like people don't forget that that sort of thing. So, um,
I don't. I don't feel like there's a lot of
people who are necessarily you know, out there even focusing
on caring on that. I think they've literally moved on
to Marcus Freeman and and the optimism of what he
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will bring. I I'm interested in how he's going to
do at l s U because, like you mentioned, he
did do a lot of good things at at Notre
Dame games at Notre Dame in twelve years, and that's
I mean, He's played some teams, he's been in some
battles with with with the fighting Irish. So I'm interested
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to see what he does. I'm interested to see if
he can make l s U a contender again, because
if he can, then it's it's like, yeah, it he
did leave and and and not such a professional manner,
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but people always remember winning and and if he's successful
then it's just one of those things like I don't
know how much it matters, Like will people care about
the way Nick Saban left, you know, Michigan State. Do
we remember how he left Michigan State? Do do people
recall how he left that l s U? Do we
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remember how he left at l s U. Like it's
like it doesn't matter because his success at Alabama is
so pronounced and it's so undisputed that you're looking at
the success of it. I'm curious, can he continue because
he has had a history of of success. Can he
continue that at l s U. Because that's a that's
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a school that when they're better, when they're good, when
they're competitive college football is better. Like that's one of
those teams. You like to see L s U be good,
so it'll be interesting and and his accent, of course,
that would be interesting to hear as well. I when
they threw out and I think it was Brian Kelly
who made the comments, something along the lines of, you know,
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I wanted to go somewhere and be able to compete
for national championships. There there was something like that that
was thrown out there, which is, you know, a little
bit of a dig on Notre Dame. I actually think
he would have had a better chance at winning a
national championship had he stayed at Notre Dame than going
to l s U, just because I feel like in
the sec who the hell knows, Like if you if
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you just looked at whatever the odds are I mean,
Arkansas has picked ahead of L s U more more
likely to win the SEC championship, like the you know, Florida, Ole, Miss, Tennessee, Bama, Georgia,
A and M like all those schools are projected to
finish better than L s U when it comes to
winning the SEC according to oddsmakers. I just the idea
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that he's been to the college football playoff at Notre
Dame what two or three times, and at least twice
there was the man taken't make it to the championship.
They went to the national Championship with the BCS that
linebacker right Manto, that was the man Tito year um
where they got beat by Alabama. Um. But I just
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so the idea that it's just gonna be he's more competitive,
more likely to win a national championship going to L
s U. I just I don't buy it. I mean,
I would bet bet right now he's not winning a
national championship at L s U. I just I don't
think it's happening. I think Nick Saban, you know, being
there at Alabama hurts, you know, the opportunity. And I
think the other interesting thing is like how much harder.
(39:39):
It will be that Oklahoma and Texas are gonna be
joining at some point, you know, I think that does
you know, they may not be, you know, a dominant
team in that conference at least not while Nick Saban
in Alabama and what Kirby Smarts built at Georgia and
what they're doing. But I think it adds more parity,
you know, it adds more opportunities to stumble. I think
(40:00):
Home is you know, built right now to win, and
in Texass trying to get there right. I mean, they
think they're back or they keep talking about being back.
I'm not sure until we see them have success and
maybe they'll win the Big Twelve this year. But um,
the truth is there's a lot of parody, there's a
lot of competition in the SEC. So well, we'll see
(40:20):
how things work out for him. I mean you have
to look at this. I think he's been a more
successful coach than less Miles was before he went to
l s U and Edwards wrong before he was um
when when he went to l s U. So if
history was to repeat itself, I think he's a better
head coach in that regard. So you would expect him
to win one if those two were both able to
(40:40):
win one. Yeah, it'd be interesting to see because if
he gets to to that point, then you're certain to
hear him say his family again and again and again.
And he ain't I ain't done winning, he said, He's
got a lot more to throw out at people. So
I mean, I mean he's expecting to win like that.
(41:02):
Dude's got an ego and a half man like you
ain't done winning winning. It's just so funny, right, and
it's almost like just not a care in the world,
Like this is who I am. Yeah, you're right, I
am everything that you thought I was. What everybody said
about me leaving Cincinnati to go to Notre Dame, all
of that was true. Like, well, let me let me
(41:24):
throw out one status you because I mean there's always
this idea that, um, you know, you can't recruit Anotre Dame,
and there's just I mean, there was a general thought
that he felt like he wasn't gonna be able to
recruit an Notre Dame or win a Notre Dame because
of you know, certain things. Um. The recruiting class curly
for class at Notre Dame is the highest ranked and
(41:48):
higher than any ranked class that Brian Kelly ever had
over his twelve years span there. So it apparently, and
and the knock was always Brian Kelly wasn't really the
guy that was gonna go out and and be recruiting
hard and be on the recruiting trail. He's more focused
on his golf game. So it's that's a real thing.
I mean, and it's I mean, you just look at that.
(42:11):
You know, Marcus Freeman and his first year as head
coach has already surpassed any recruiting ranking that Brian Kelly
did over his entire career. That now, that doesn't necessarily
mean you become a good head coach. It's just one
piece of it. Yes, Like well, I think I think
recruiting or Urban Meyer constantly talked about when he worked
(42:32):
with us on our show on Big New Kickoff, that
recruiting is the lifeblood of college football. And it's true.
And if you're not working at it, like you're going
to get beat. So that's what I'm curious to see it.
It's not so much if he's a good coach. He
can coach football, you can manage his staff. To me,
it's about if he's willing to put in the time
(42:52):
and effort in order to to recruit the way he
needs to against the Alabama's, against the Georgia, against eventually
Oklahoma and Texas and everyone else within the SEC. Because
that's where it's different. You don't have the unique pitch
of saying like, hey, we're Notre Dame. No no no, no. Now,
your pitch is like, well, yeah, you're You're just one
amongst many in the SEC, and you've got to you
(43:13):
gotta figure out that landscape. So what are the better
golf courses in Louisiana or in Indiana? I mean like, like,
what are the what's the big time golf course in
Indiana out there next next to South Bend? That would
be uh, like, where's where is he a member to this?
Brian Kelly? I don't, I don't know. I mean we
gotta we gotta get to the bottom of that. That's
this is important stuff here. I want to know everything
(43:34):
about his golf. How much do what your schedule? Is
your schedule too hectic for you to golf? Yeah? I
trust me. I'm not in a good, good place right now.
I'm not. I'm not at liberty to talk about how
bad my golf has gotten. So I'm embarrassed, yes, but
like I just my my my handicap index went up significantly,
(43:58):
and I'm quite embarrassed about it. It's just golf. Who cares?
I care? I mean it's competitive. I care about it.
Like it's just you know, you don't like not being
as good as you feel like you could be. And
I don't get to play that much. So I'm embarrassed.
I don't really you need you on some tips you
want to help you out with that? I mean I
want nothing from you. I would love I would love
to have a drink. I feel like he provides some
(44:21):
some good wisdom. Hey listen, I'll like, let me just
say this, all right, and I'll just hear me out
on this. So you want to make sure you're locking
your fingers on the club, all right? I would recommend
going with one glove. But but if you don't want
to go with any gloves, if you feel like you've
got a strong enough grip, that's fine. And also the
(44:41):
goal is to make it into the hole on as
few as shots as possible. Wow, So if you can
do that, I feel I'm optimistic that we could turn
this whole thing around. Just I just I want, I
want to I want to be clear on that. So again,
if you need anything else, just just hit me up.
You know what I can do. What about discovering? Yeah,
(45:02):
I mean, well, listen, I've got to discover yourself. Should
do Yeah, everybody has to discover themselves. Brady's going to
discover that his golf game is in fact intact. Well
before you transition to your discovery, which I know you're
about to do. What are you talking about? Um, I
do have something for the b Q News that I
just I just I want to throw out there. I'm
gonna need each of your zodiac signs. I'm a cancer. Okay,
(45:27):
Gemini sounds negative, but you are a Gemini about that stuff? No,
not really, I'm just saying I know Gemini is double, right,
isn't that multiple? Isn't that like a don't ask me.
I don't know. I like to face something like that.
I believe to face. Yeah, I don't know, because I
(45:50):
I focus on like at the bottom when it says
for entertainment purposes only. That's why I don't plan my
schedule around my horoscope sign. You know, like like a
lot of these losers do that. You know, what's my
signs say today, your symbol is a twin. I got
an idea, you've got multiple personality. How A would you
get up off your fat ass and go work out
and forget about what your sign says focus, because that's
(46:13):
what I do. I'm too fast. That's your twin symbol
coming out, that's your main symbol. Yeah, we'll come back
to your nice symbol. Okay, all right, I'll discover at
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