On this episode of the BobbyCast, Bobby talks with comedian and creator Danae Hays about some very real moments and the weird parts of going viral. She shares the night she was roofied by a fan, what happened after, and how it changed the way she moves through shows and crowds. They get into her first viral clip that hit 21M views, the show where a fan ended up in handcuffs, and why Bobby swears she’s the best athlete he knows. Danae walks through how a former college shortstop turned content maker landed four ESPN Top 10 plays and what that grind actually looks like, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
I need to find six other people that are doing
very well right now, and I need to absolutely annihilate them.
Tonight when I get home, I'm going to see if
I can't get a feud going with Luke Bryan.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Welcome to episode five forty eight with Danay Hayes. She's
out on tour, the first time tour, which that goes
all the way to the end of November. So you
guys should go to a show if she comes around.
If you hear this after that, I'm sure she's still
not doing stuff. But I'm lucky enough to be friends
with Denay a little bit before this started, or I
don't think we could have gone to some of the
place I wouldn't have felt comfortable going to some of
(00:41):
the places that we went if we weren't already friends.
You could see that, yeah, So especially like she was
put into like gay conversion therapy. She had told me
that story before we talk about it here. That's crazy
man like to be that young.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
It's a wild yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
So I don't want to say too much of it
because you can hear it. And also I knew what
kind of athletes she was from spending time with her,
and I do give her the biggest athletic compliment I've
ever given anyone in the history of this podcast. So
really like Dnay. You probably see her from doing crazy stuff.
We talk about our first ever viral video. I think
you probably will know where in a different way after this.
(01:16):
If not, if you don't know where at all, go
check it out. All right here she is, Episode five eight. Comedian.
We won't say influencer, not an influence, not an influencer,
content creator, Danay Hayes Denay.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Good to see you.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Good to see you, Bobby.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Well, my first question is what do you write in
that line that says job like if you have to
go for a medical or anything.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Well, it's changed over the years. It was real estate agent.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I saw that picture. I do want to come back
to that. That's a really cool picture.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Yeah, well thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, what do you have to write now?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Though, I guess comedian, comedian and content creator. It was
content creator for a long time, which most people are like,
what does that mean? And I'm like influencer, which feels
very cheesy.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
By the way, soels like you're selling tell me t Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I hate no, literally, I hate using the word influencer.
But now I just I just get to say comedian,
which also comes with the weird you know, the weird
stuff right after, which is like, tell me something funny,
so I.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Which is the least a fun place to have to
be to tell somebody something funny on command? Yeah, because
unless you have an joke, nothing you say is going
to actually be funny in that particular.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
No instance, I.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Got rufied after a show in hattie's Burg, Mississippi, and
spent eight thousand dollars in a er in Hattiesburg. And
the doctor while I'm physically I feel like I'm dying
on the on the bed. He walks in and he goes,
I hear you're a comedian, and I'm like m He says,
tell me something funny, and I was like unbelievable. Like
(02:49):
Hattiesburg's also the last place you want to be on
your deathbed at I thought.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
You were telling me a joke at first, because that's
a good setup. I got rufied once and hatti's Burg, Mississippi.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
That was real.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
No, that was legit.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, it was the Michael Chandler was fighting and I
went to a bar to watch his fight right after
my show, and I took one drink from a fan
who came to my show, and then.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
I was violent.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Like I used this word to explain because it's the
only thing that makes sense. It was violent. I think
I threw up seventy times in forty eight hours.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
When did you know something was up? Uh?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
When I started getting up about thirty minutes after consuming
one drink and I was shadow boxing the bartender, Like
no joke. I literally started shadow boxing the bartender and
my crew that was with me was like, something is
going on with her? Like this is not She had
one drink and then immediately I said, guys, I don't
feel right. I gotta go home. By the way, I
(03:43):
love that we're starting the podcast on this. I was like,
I have to go. I got to go back to
the hotel, and so they took me back to the
hotel and then it just went downhill fast.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
The motivation to rufy someone that's with a crew is
lost on me. Not that I understand the other motivation,
but if I were going to be a roofy person,
I would look for a vulnerable person by themselves.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Right, you have people with you and do you think
it was the fan?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Well, I think what happened is not to speculate, but
the person she was with, this other woman. I don't
know what their relationship details were, but that girl did
not like that. The other girl bought me a drink
and she came over and said something really smart to me,
and I just brushed it off, and I was.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Like, man, that was really weird energy.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I didn't approach them, they approached me, So this is
very odd that she's starting trying to start beef with me.
So I just was like, I'm just going to consume
this drink and then not, you know, try to talk
to him anymore. And the doctor says he believes that
she poured a significant amount of vizine eye drops in
my drink, So.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Not predatory as in somebody trying to take you home
with them, but maybe just to hurt you.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Yeah, I think it was. I think it was that
I was crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, dude, it was the first time I've ever experienced
that kind of energy, and I was so sick. And
I think she just did it just because she was
mad at the other girl for buying me a drink. Yeah,
And I'm not kidding when I say I literally threw
up seventy times in two days, like I thought I was.
At one point, I thought I was gonna die because
I was hallucinating in my hotel room by myself at
(05:21):
three o'clock in the morning. And I just weirdly called
my step mom at three o'clock in the morning. I
don't even remember doing this, and she was like, are
you okay? And I was talking about just the weirdest stuff,
and so she called an ambulance. They came and got me. Sorry, no,
they did not come and get me. She called the
ambulance and the nurse. And this is a true story.
The nurse in her Honda Accord drove to my hotel
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because she was a big fan of me, and picked
me up in her Honda Accord as I was throwing
up out the window. Wow, So shout out. I cannot
remember her name. I need to look it up. Shout
out to the nurse in Hattiesburg that drives the white
Honda Accord.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
It feels like you were collateral damage in a very
unhealthy relationship.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yes, I was one hundred percent collateral damage in a
lesbian psychotic relationship. And I can say that, okay, the
it was psychotic behavior.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Have you heard from either one of them since even
on social media. No, like DM Bernard DM anything like that.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
No, no, I think that.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I think that girl's probably like because I told a
story about it without pointing fingers at them.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
I just said I got really sick.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Like I show a story like a bit.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
No, just I was just saying like, hey, you got
to be careful of who take you know, who you
take drinks from. I was like, cause, I'm not sure
exactly what happened, but I threw up seventy times. And
then I'm sure she probably saw that and was like
viazine does the trick?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
The picture that I saw of you, it was like
this many years ago or it's something like that, and
it was you selling real estate. Yeah, that was such
a cool picture like that that made me like feel
don't feel much. That made me feel a little yeah. Yeah,
So you started out like professionally trying to do real
estate or were you successful at it?
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Yeah? Well no, no, it was not. I was.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I was selling like maybe six or so up in
houses a year that were like between eighty and one
hundred thousand dollars in my hometown in Alabama, So my
commission was like two thousand dollars a sale. So then
I was like, okay, wait, if I'm going to grow
this business, I got to find a way to actually
pay my bills. So I started doing softball lessons in
softball camps, and that was kind of just to make
(07:19):
ends meet.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
But I did a little bit of everything.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I did pharmaceutical sales, real estate, sports, broadcasting, softball camps.
I even worked in a pyramid scheme. Bobby, which one
beach Body.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yeah, I got the videos. Yeah, like that was a
pyramid scheme.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Yeah, brother, hip hop abs and.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I would see the commercials and I think I probably
dabbled in that a bit.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I mean they make great programs, but you know, getting
you like your grandmother, your aunt, your uncle, your cousins
all to sign up. Eventually they stop inviting you to
the family get togethers. And because I was annoying about.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
It, your whole family at Beach Bodies. That's awesome. Yes,
literally all abs at everything.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Well, they weren't doing them programs, but on paper they were.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
How did that Did you make any money doing that
at all?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Yeah? Yeah you could.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
You could actually do really well as long as you
were using social media. I mean, and that's that's actually
like I'm I'm I'm embarrassed about it, you know, because
of the whole pyramid scheme stuff. But it's what taught
me how to use social media, because I had to
create reels and tiktoks in order to get people signed up.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I think I did beach Body for a minute.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
You did hip hop abs with Sean t.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Because Beach Body, the hip hop abs didn't take very.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Long, no and yeah, and you didn't want to be
seen doing it, and you could.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
This would be a great.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Setup to You could actually start hip hop ad classes
in here.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
This would be perfect.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
You mean keep them going. We actually do them every Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Yeah, okay, well buy me next time. I know them.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
We did Tybo in college.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I know them.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
You ever do Tybo?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I don't even know what Tabo is. Sounds like a
nickname from somebody back home.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Tibo Tibo was like Billy Blanks and it was a
like a karate exercise class.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
It was much like Beach Body.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Like I was in the phase of just I don't
have friends, so I would buy stuff and do workouts
with people on screen.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Got it?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
So I did all those workouts with people that I
thought were my friends. They were supplement to my friend groups.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I mean listen, not to throw complete shade. There was
honestly like the community with those types of things, like
people are actually you know, changing their lives and they're
getting healthier and they're losing weight. It's just once you
can you know, lift the veil of like how kind
of crazy that structure of the payout and all that is,
you know, you kind of lose what the intentions are
(09:33):
behind it. But the programs themselves, like shout out to
Beach Body, they did a great job.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Did you have a first video that went viral? Do
you remember?
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
My first one was your first video ever.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
No, no, not my first one, no, but my very
first viral video. I just randomly. I was only posting
fitness stuff at this point. That's how I was making
a living. And one day I prank phone called a
taxidermis in twenty twenty one from Alabama and asked him
if he would stuff my dog. And I thought he
(10:06):
would be like, no, no, we can't do that, but
instead he threw me for a loop and he was like, yeah, absolutely,
we do it all the time.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
And I was like, oh, I haven't thought this for ahead.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I was like, oh, okay, great, Uh, well, how do
I get him to you? And he was like, well,
where is he right now? And I was like, well,
he's in he's in the deep freezer. And this man
was like, You've done everything right to this point, and.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
I was like, this is unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
So I clipped it and I posted it on TikTok,
and within like a week it had like twenty one
million views.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
It was wow, that's super viral, dude.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
It was absurd, and I woke up the next day
I think I had maybe like fifty thousand TikTok followers,
and I woke up the next day with two hundred
and fifty thousand, Like it just literally changed my life.
So I posted another one the next day of me
prank phone calling a dairy queen and asked him if
they I could bring a tupperware container in to fill
(11:01):
it up with the hot syrup to put it on
my husband. And it got like twelve million views, and
then again another one got ten and then another one.
At the time, I was the only person on TikTok
posting prank phone calls, so it worked to my advantage.
But then other people started doing it, and so I
was like, well, I don't want to just be known
as the prank caller, so I started dabbling in like
(11:22):
sketches and characters and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Did you make any money doing that on TikTok?
Speaker 4 (11:28):
The Creator Fund is really weird.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Obviously on that video, I think I made a couple
of thousand dollars. But the Creator Fund, I've noticed, as
your followers, and I hope TikTok doesn't see this and
like shadow ban me or something, but as your followers increase,
your payout decreases. So like you, when I was just starting,
I was actually making more money on the Creator Fund
(11:52):
than I am now because they kind of almost want
to reward the newer creators.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I felt because I got in the Creator Fund for
a while, but I felt like they were suppressing my
videos where they would not hit as hard normally, because
when I got out, it kind of proved that, yeah,
because I was, I wasn't doing anything any different, but
like the same type of video with Then once I
got out of the Creator Fund and they have to
pay anymore, right, they would pop more. And so I
(12:21):
really wasn't using that as like a mainstream of income.
So I just stayed out of the Creator Fund, but
I found the same thing. Is that generally how people
feel about that.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, a lot of my friends don't don't do the
Creator Fund for that reason. I've toggled it on and
toggled it off. I can't tell a difference all my stuff,
but a lot of my friends, who are you know,
influencers or comedians, they will not use it because they're like,
the money I'm making is not worth it over the
engagement and the views I'm going to get.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
You came up on my for you page.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I follow you, but you came up on my for
you page the other day and you were doing a
joke about I think it was your dad's saying, don't.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Shave your head.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Yeah, buzz coat my hair.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
And it's a good joke.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
And also but I was like, oh, wow, she's actually
posting material because I was never good enough to post
material meeting. My material was good, but I didn't have.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Enough of it.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Well, it's weird too because I'm still doing the same set.
So it's the first time tour right now that I'm
on and I only have nine more shows and that
I'm done, so it's very weird. You have to like
pick and shoes. You know, you have to pick and
choose which jokes you're willing to burn, because if I
pick one of my bigger jokes, I have to rewrite
twenty minutes of my set because then they know the joke.
(13:29):
And I don't do a ton of crowd work. So
crowd work's kind of the only way to be able
to constantly circulate comedic stuff. But I don't do a
whole lot of crowd work. I have a really hard
time having a joke at the expense of other people.
I hate making somebody leave my show feeling like I
bully them or I made them feel embarrassed or humiliated,
(13:52):
and so I don't do a lot of crowd work,
and if I do, it's more of me, kind of
like laughing with them instead of laughing at them. But yeah,
it's I'm now getting to the point where after these
nine shows all have filmed my whole set and I
can start burning every single joke. So get ready, Bobby,
because I think that's all my page is gonna be.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
That was my fear was I will because it's not
like a song where a lot of our friends can
play and put a song out and then they people
want to hear the song again. Yeah, they want to
hear it every time they do a show. Once you
hear a joke, you kind of it's kind of dead.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
It's done.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
And so I would be like, I'm not posting anything
except like crowd interactions because I knew those they were
never gonna happen again because it was all circumstantial to
that night and those people.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
But yeah, I saw it and I.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Was like, oh, wow, that's a good joke, and a
little bit I was like, wow, I can't belive she's
posted a joke, right right, actually still touring.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Right, yeah, because that I still use it.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I had two shows this weekend and I still used it,
and I noticed that it still got the same type
of laughter. Because I have to remind myself not every
single person at my show has seen every single video
I post. But yeah, dude, this weekend, I'd love to
know you take on this. This weekend, I had two
women in the middle of my set get into a
(15:06):
full blown physical altercation and one of them got arrested.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
And now I'm like, I want to.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Post that, But do I need to blur their faces
out or do they deserve it? I feel like I
might need to put like an emoji over their face.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I think it actually probably gets more traction if you
do blur it.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
It makes it more like yeah, uh naughty.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
I'm like I shouldn't be watching.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
That right And in my mind, I'm like, what would
Gavin Adcock? Do you know?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
He'd yell at Beyonce?
Speaker 4 (15:35):
I need to.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Find six other people that are doing very well right now,
and I need to absolutely annihilate them in what way?
Just every way? Bobby like online, like start a feud, Yeah,
start a feud. I'm going to start a feud tonight
when I get home. I'm gonna see if I can't
get a feud going with Luke Bryan and see where
that takes me. And then if Luke doesn't bite, I'll
(15:56):
I'll maybe go for like a gospel artist.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, mostly for what happens with that after you die, Right,
that's true more than what happens today.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
It is true.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
That's a bad investment for the future.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, maybe not a go Okay, we'll do maybe I
don't know, Maybe I start one with Carrie Underwood or something.
I don't know, just to shake things up for her.
You know, why were the people fighting one of them.
I started into a joke about my coming out story
when I was twenty four, and uh, the lady on
the second row was a gay woman. The lady on
the third row was there with her husband, and she said,
(16:28):
apparently I don't know this to be true, but she said,
why is she talking about lesbian stuff? And the woman
on the second row turned around and said, because she
is one, And the lady was like, well, I wish
she'd stop.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
And my whole.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Set is not you know, gay this, gay that, but
I do have like a good solid ten minutes of
my coming out story living in Alabama, because that alone
is is hilarious. And they started getting into it, and
I had to stop my show for about five minutes
and like do like a therapy session because I thought
(17:03):
we were headed for a rally, you know, like I
thought this was about to turn into a rally in Treeport,
And so I got them quieted down and then you
just see me walk off stage at the end of
my set, and they get into like it looks like
a wrestling gridlock where one lady's got her by the
back of the head and the other woman's got her
by the back of the head and they're just giving
each other hell and then they finally like separate. The
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husband gets in between, and then the next video is
a police officer putting handcuffs on the woman who made
the lesbian comment.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
And you have it.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Oh yeah, I've got it.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I'd for sure, I'd blow their faces out, for sure,
but i'd put it up. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I was doing a show on Massachusetts once and somebody yelled,
I will shoot you, and.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
So every Massachusetts Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
It was in like outside of Springfield, Massachusetts, and so
everybody starts to yell, Oh my god. Obviously it's dark
out there, so I can't see what's happening. Also, I
didn't say anything that made them want to shoot me,
but I'm like, oh god, So the lights flip up,
the cops are out people that they are escorting people
out of the theater. But I was told this is
(18:08):
in like my first year of ever touring, like you
have to hit fifty minutes or fifty whatever's in the contract. Yeah,
So I just sat down on the stage because I
was like, I'm not going to not get paid. So
I sat down on the stage to make sure I
did not leave for fifty five minutes. I didn't understand
the rules. I could go back and then come back right, so,
but they ended up arresting somebody. It was like somebody
kept talking, like talking, like if it's a comedy show,
(18:31):
like the worst thing that we can have doing spoken word,
Hey it can be a poetry show, is somebody talking
because it's going to interrupt our rhythm and our cadence.
And it doesn't help us when you like talk with us, No.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Not at all, And in fact, it throws it throws
everything off. It also just doesn't make for a fun
environment for everybody else, you know, like that's sitting around
them because they're constantly having to listen to them. And
when I first started, I didn't know how to handle that.
So I just let it go and go and go.
And now I'll give them a warning in a very
nice way, like hey, baby, can we can we quiet
(19:06):
down just a little bit. And then but it's hard
to follow the rules when you're drunk. You know, being
drunk and following the rules don't go together. So after
I've given them a warning, then I have a code
word with my security team. And once I say that
code word in the set, because it keeps me from
having to look like a bad guy. Once I say
that code word, they go over and they don't grab them,
(19:27):
but they say, can can you come outside with us?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
And then yeah, it sucks to have to do that
because they're there. They're they're there because they're.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Like your person, right, and it sucks to have to
go like, hey, you got to shut up, right, because
you're ruining it for everyone. And that's what that fight
was about that night. It was specifically about somebody talking
and even like talking back to me a little bit
during the set, right, but it was running their time,
and they're like, you got to stop, and that turns
into U and one yell's I'll shoot you, and so
everybody scrambled and left, and I obviously I never got
(19:55):
the room back. Everybody came back in and we went
along and finished the show, but I never got the
room back. That that obliterated any sort of continuity of
the night.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Oh yeah, I had a woman lay down.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
The closest I got to a situation like that is
I had a woman lay down for twenty five minutes.
She had army, crawled from her seat to the handicap
ramp and grabbed the rail and she.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Was like, I ain't leaving. I'm her cousin.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
And I was like, oh my god, do I have
a cousin in Arizona. I was like, oh my god,
I hope not.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
No, I literally did.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I was like, I'm racking my brain of which crazy
cousin is at my show right now. So I had
to get off stage, go down there and like reason
with her like an FBI agent and be like, hey,
if you'll get up, I'll take you to dinner tonight.
And that was the only thing that got her up
on her feet, and then they escorted her out of
the venue. She punches a police officer in the face
(20:50):
in the like in the nose. They arrest her, and
then her wife comes to the meet and greet later,
and I was just like that was when I started
to realize my brand is a lot roudier than I
ever thought. It was like like the it's got kind
of like a it's like a like a show for
the good old boys and the gays, and it's like
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you really don't know if the NRA sponsoring it or
if Glad sponsoring it.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Like it's just very you.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Need to separate them like at a wedding too. Yeah,
it's a little bit of both. So this side you're here,
what you do your meet greats after the show? Yeah, yeah,
that could be problematic too, And it is they're drunker,
then they're drunk.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
And because of my most popular song, they gift every
meet and greet, I get gifted he said, a dildo
every meet and Greek, and they want me to sign
it and they want me to take pictures with it,
and it's usually always their husband's taking the pictures, and
so they're.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
A lot rowdier. Like I always thought that.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I don't know, I don't really know what I thought
my brand was, but this year has really showed that
it is much roudier than I anticipated. Like I went
to Rock the South this summer in Coleman and I
had to do three corps lot shotguns with three different men,
and a man pinched off a Copenhagen thing out of
his pocket and put it in my lip for a picture.
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And that was when I was like, man, like, I
might need to dial it down a little bit.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I think it's a mixture of your warmth and people
feel like they know you, they like you, they're close
to you, even if they're not. So there's this automatic
there's no barrier, right because they feel like they know
and that is that's a huge compliment. But also, as
you can see, it gets to a point where it
starts feel a bit dangerous.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
For me, it was when people were kissing me. Yeah,
I had to stop and be like I can't.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Like.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I love that people feel like they know me, right,
but when they're like grabbing me and like kissing me
on the face and stuff, I'm like, I don't like that. Man,
thank you for enjoying what I do, but no touching
like that.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
No, I feel that I signed a girls piece of
paper and then the next day she sent me a
video of of a tattoo of my signature on her
right butt cheek, and I was.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Just like, cheek.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
I was like, I was just like, oh.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Like yeah, so it just yeah, it's been jarring because
I like, I think, because of what you do and
what I do, you're people are always consuming your voice
and they're always seeing your face and same with me
on social media, so it does create a very intimate
relationship for them, which I love. I want to feel
very connected to my fans, but when stuff like you know,
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like the kissing stuff happens, you're like, oh, man, Like man,
they they're a little too comfortable with that.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
And you're right. If you say something, you're the bad guy.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
So you got to have somebody that's there with you, right,
that makes sure that doesn't happen.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Right, Yeah, kissing stuff, it's going to gross me out.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
And that's when I had to go a I I'm
so honored, But no lips on any part of my body.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
You know, when I was single for for this past year,
nobody ever wanted to kiss me, which now my feelings
are a little hurt, Bobby, because I never had any
free kisses after my So.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I should dig your meat greets before though, Yeah, I
should be because then at the end of the show,
you're done.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Yeah, and there's such relief. You don't need my advice.
I change because I used to do that, but I
just liked at the end of the show to be done.
Get my crap.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
If I want to go eat with my people, if
I want to go find a fly home.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I'm so I'm so weird about pre show anything. I
won't let family, friends or anybody come into the green
room before the show because my energy is just so different.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
I think it might.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
It might throw me off in the odd chance that
one of them says something that is weird or condescending
right before I go out on stage. So I like
to kind of keep all of the the energy for
after the show once I've already performed, just because I'm
so weird. Like even my dad he'll be like, can
we come back and see you in the green room,
And I'm like, I'll see you after, dad.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Pre show, Yeah, pre show.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor,
and we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Where did you grow up in Alabama?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
I grew up in a little town called Morris. It's
like thirty twenty thirty minutes north of Birmingham, about eleven
hundred people.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Were you a lesbian there?
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Maybe I've been a lesbian for a long time.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
No, not what I mean. Were you a lesbian where
you were living and people knew it?
Speaker 4 (25:23):
No?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
No, I didn't come out until I was twenty four.
But it was hard, Bobby, because I was you know,
I was dressing like Morgan Wallen but trying to get
a boyfriend, and that's really hard to do in Alabama,
you know. But I was I've known I was gay
since I was like eight years old. I didn't know
what the word gay meant, you know, and would I
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would like see Rosie O'Donnell on TV as a kid
and be like, I can kind of see something there
that reminds me of me, but not really, but like,
we didn't use the word gay growing up in Alabama ever.
And then I told my parents when i'd come home
from second grade, I was like, hey, I don't really
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know what's going on with me, but I've noticed all
the boys in my class like the girls, and all
the girls like the boys, but I like the girls.
And so a couple of weeks after that conversation, I
was taken to what's called conversion therapy, which I think, Mike,
I don't know, it might be illegal now, but so
I just straight away from that topic completely. After that conversation,
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I was like, I don't want to do anything that
would bring shame to my family or embarrassment to me,
So I'm going to stay completely away from that. And
then once I graduated from college, I was like, man,
there's no like, there's no going back, Like I'm as
gay as a football bat.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
So I just was like, I'm going to tell my
mom and.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
That, what is conversion therapy like in Alabama? I mean
at all, but I mean in Alabama feels like it's
extra CONVERSI yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
It does, right.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Uh. I don't really know if my conversion therapist was
a legit therapist. He always sat in a recliner with
his feet up when I walked in, and he always
was eating a sandwich out of his zip lock bag
that his wife had sent him, and he was always
just working on getting that white bread mayonnaise like unstuck
from the roof of his mouth, you know.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
But he would always.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Say because I remember this because he said it every
single time it was one on one therapy with me
and this guy, and he would always look at me
and he would say, Denay, it is not a sin
to think about robbing the bank, but it is a
sin to rob it. And as an eight year old
or nine ten, however old it was in second grade,
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I could remember being so confused because I was like,
what did my parents tell him I don't want to
be a bank robber?
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Like where do his analogies with an eight or nine
year old?
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Yeah? I was like, what is he talking about? I
don't want to rob a bank.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
I like girls, you know, And so it was just
a lot of like using like things like that to
bring shame onto the idea of like acting out on it,
if you will. I didn't go to him for a
terribly long time, but I went to him long enough
to where the things he said. I was at such
an impressionable young age that like those things really. I mean,
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I'm thirty two now and I can still quote that
thing that he said because he said it every single day.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Did your parents feel like you were being converted in
conversion therapy?
Speaker 4 (28:27):
You know?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I don't know if at that age they were too
concerned about that. I think at that age they were
just very protective of me. And I have a lot
of empathy for my parents. I know there's a lot
of people that want me to be so mad at them,
and you know, speak ill of that time in my life.
And this might be controversial or it might be like
a hot take, but it was nineteen ninety or two
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thousand ish, you know, and eleven hundred people in my
small town, and they were true in their minds. I
can understand even if they went about it in the
wrong way, because I would do it differently if I
had a kid, But in their minds, they had never
been confronted with anything like that, and I think in
their minds they knew that if I was different than
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everybody in my class because there was not a single
gay person. I think they were just like, we don't
want to see our child who has such a big
heart and wears heart on her sleeve and truly has
a love for life, like I'm such a happy person
by nature, and I was that way as a kid,
And I think they were just trying to protect me
from being bullied or ostracized, because my dad has told
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me a million times he's like, yes, did we go
about it the wrong way? Absolutely, But I wanted you
to be able to make that decision when you were
emotionally equipped to deal with some of the hate and
judgment that was going to come with it. Even though
I don't think that hate and judgment was warranted, I
would be stupid to think and delusional to think that
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it wouldn't happen. So I was trying to protect you
in a way, but I went about it in a
way that I shouldn't have.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Do you and your dad still have a close relationship.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Oh yeah, my dad's my best friend.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
My dad is absolutely just the greatest thing on earth
as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
So I assume he's more accepting.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Than Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
If I told my dad I wanted him to hang
a gay Pride flag, he'd.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Be like, oh shit, but I'll do it. If that's
what you need from me, I'll do it.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
When did that turn happen?
Speaker 1 (30:30):
That happened about the time i'd come out, about twenty four.
So you know, the first thing my dad said to
me when I came out is he looked at me
stone cold, and I thought he was about to be mean.
He just looked at me and he said, well, baby,
at least you can't get pregnant. And then he was like,
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good luck telling you, mama. You know. So he brought
humor to it because that's helped me and him connect
and then ever since then, he's ever made a single
comment that I felt was hurtful. So my dad's a
great My dad is a great example of just loving
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your child unconditionally.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I think you're the best athlete that I know, and
I know some good athletes. I know professional athletes. I
do an NFL show with a former NFL quarterback. I
still think you're the best athlete that Bobby.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
That is so kind of you.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
That is the greatest compliment I can be given because
I devoted so much of my life to that.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
So thank you for saying that.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
It's crazy like we played golf. It's the last time
I actually played golf was the time I played with you.
Some would say I quit because I got beat by you.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Some would say I quit because I won.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
I guess not, like I.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Knew people that knew you, and we had talked on
social media before and I didn't have to worry about
dming you and my wife seeing it because you're gay.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
She was right, who cares?
Speaker 4 (31:51):
The best part?
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, And so.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I saw you playing like on a Tuesday afternoon, and
so I just messaged you and I was like, hey,
I don't have friends can play it midday afternoons either.
My job's weird, so I do have like one o'clock
I can play golf sometimes on a weekday.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
And I was like, let's play.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
And we tried a couple times and you were gone
or I was gone, and finally we got we went
and played and and I've played with good female golfers.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
And this is gonna offend somebody, I just don't know who.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
But you didn't even play from the women's teas, and
I will because I there's like a part of me
when I do play with women golfers, I always forget
to stop at the red teas because most of the
time we don't play with women, and so we don't stop.
We all play at the blues or the whites or no.
I never played tips, and so then we just always forget.
And I was like, god, dang it, I should have
stopped at the red tees. And I thought, I'm going
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to play with d nave. I don't have to stop
all the time at the red teas. No, not only
did I not have to stop at the red teas,
you do not play there like you beat me like from.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
The same teas.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
It was why and it wasn't just And again this
I hope this isn't like roofie creepy, but like you
move like such an athlete, Like your body, your physiology
is that of an athlete, where I'm just like, man,
you're and then I learned that you are also a
Division one softball player in all but yeah, I think
the best athlete.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
I know that is very kind of you. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I I just yeah, I would say athletics has always
come extremely easy for me. I can move my body
like how I want to move it, whether it's wakeboarding
or golfing or softball. I just have a lot of
control over my body. But it was never the thing
I was the most passionate about, which is funny that
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that's when people ask me, why did you get started
in comedy in your thirties, And I'm like, well, the
arts were not celebrated where I grew up. If you
wanted to be celebrated and you wanted to be cool,
you played, you played sports.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
So but golf is.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Something I've I've gotten into now that softball's over with,
and I am so ultra competitive that it's I'll go
out and play with myself and I just want to
I just want to beat my score yesterday.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
So I appreciate you saying that, because I really do
love golf.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
She didn't beat me bad, by the way, I think.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
No, it was if somebody's listening to this and they're like, oh,
I'm gonna go play with.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
To day and she's going to be a scratch golfer.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Absolutely not if you played from the red teas probably.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
When I was playing.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
So I don't play from the red tea's because I
only play with guys and like that same thing every
time I forget to tee off there or they pass it.
So I'm like, you know what, I'm just gonna play
with them, and that way I can have better conversations
with them because I'm not getting out at an awkward spot.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Because a lot of the talk is on the tea
box or the green Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
When I when I was playing from the reds consistently
and taking lessons, which is that helped a bunch. But
I was shooting in the eighties, like the the low
eighties pretty frequently, and then I stopped completely playing for
like three years. And it's you know, it's like riding
a bicycle sometimes when it comes to driving, and then
other times it's like the first time you've picked up
a driver. It feels like So it's take I have
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to be playing consistently to feel really good.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
I gotta imagine you were really good high school softball player.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Yeah, in high school, in high school as a shit bobby,
I ain't gonna lie. I think I hold that I
did hold the state record for most RBIs in a season.
I think I had seventy seven, and I was the
only player from Alabama to be chosen to play in
the ever to be played in the under Armor All
American Game. I think I had close to like seventy.
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I want to stay close to seventy career home runs.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
But I was much bigger back then too, which was
you didn't see a short stop at one hundred and
seventy pounds. I weighed like one twenty eight now, But
I was one hundred and like sixty five seventy pounds consistently,
and I could I could just move really good laterally.
And then when I got to Alabama, I was much
better on defense than I was at the plate, which
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was so frustrating for me because again I was known
for being a power hitter.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
I was the three to four hole hitter, and.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Then I got to Alabama and just completely had a
mental breakdown at the plate for three out of the
four years.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
But I held my own on defense.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
I think I had like I think I had four
ESPN Top ten plays on defense.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
So that's that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
That's my that's my claim. To fame.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
When people look at my stats at Alabama, it doesn't
tell the full story because I would like for them
to pencil in four ESPN Top ten plays. That'd be
really nice because then they see a two seventy hitter
at the plate and I'm.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Like, where did you play?
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Position?
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Short stop?
Speaker 1 (36:27):
My well, my freshman year when we won the Natty,
I was at second base. Hated it because it's like
a foreign language going from shortstop to second. And then sophomore, junior, senior.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
I played short won national championship.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
That's right, Yeah against Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Don't tell Patty. Don't don't rub it in Patty's face.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
I remember I told DJ, my brother in law, Patty's son, guess.
So I was like, hey, I played golf, and he
was like, man, she was a scrappy ball player, like
he remembered it.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Also, because I wonder sometimes I never had I never
had a like a big ego. I was like when
I played, I just I wonder. Now I'm like, I
wonder if Patty remembers me.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
She remembers everybody. Yeah, yeah, I mean she's that kind
of coach. Okay, good, well, that makes it feel about
every detail, every person, good or bad.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Like I remember this one play and I'll have to
show you after and I can send it to you.
But I remember this one play. Ball was popped up
in foul territory right behind the third base bag. I'm
running over, just waving people off because it's an easy
can of corn for the third baseman. She trips on
the bag and I look down out of the corner
of my eye and I see her on the ground,
and I'm like, oh my god, I got to catch
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this ball.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
So I do art to go catch it.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
And as I'm about to catch it, Patty stands in
the coaching box because she doesn't have to move, and
she stands there and makes me catch this ball around
her body. And after I caught it, I just remember
her thinking, like I could see her face and she
was just like how did she do that? And I
wanted to be like, why didn't you move, Patty, Like.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Dang man, that is I mean that that many even
one ESPN Top ten play, even to be a Division
one athlete, Like, there's so many things. That's why I
think I think you're the best pure athlete that I know.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
And I didn't expect it.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Well, that'll be the biggest compliment I have received in
twenty twenty five, So thank you.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
I also think you're very brave, and not even in
like the typical things that people would be like, oh
you're so brave with the you know, uh coming out
or being from the South.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
I just think you're brave to start doing comedy.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Thank you, because without a comedy background, and I say
this to somebody without a comedy background that just jumped in,
it's it's really hard. Yeah, and you're way better than
I was.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Well, that's very kind of you, but it you hit
the nail on the head. It's I was just talking
to somebody about this yesterday.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
I don't know why I thought.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
I could do this the way that I did it,
But the first time I ever did stand up comedy
was an hour headlining show, which I don't know now,
knowing or knowing what I know now, I wouldn't have
signed up for that.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
But there is.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
You know, ignorance is bliss, and ignorance sometimes can give
you delusion. And so I think, not knowing how hard
it was going to be, or not knowing like the
ebbs and flows of comedy, I was like, yeah, I'll
do it.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
How hard can it be?
Speaker 3 (39:17):
You know?
Speaker 1 (39:17):
And I was just telling my girlfriend this last night.
I was like, the secret ingredient for me and for
anybody else that I've found to admire is you have
to have a state of delusion in whatever you're doing.
You have to be delusional. And I am one hundred
percent deliciously healthy.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
I just said a whole podcast about that.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Like the truly successful people that I know, the one
thing they have in common is delusion that they think
they can do it.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Because without that, without the.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Delusion of doing something that you've never done, like, you
don't even try unless you're a little crazy.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Well, and I when we played golf, we got to
spend like four or five hours together and I really
got to know you that day. And I remember calling
my dad after our round and he was like, how
did they go with Bobby? I was like, Dad, he
is so fascinating because he isn't afraid to try things.
And I was like, I know this might sound cheesy
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because I'm bringing up like a dancing competition and it
may seem low stakes to the other things that you
do in life, but I was fascinated that you were
willing to sign up for that competition and win it,
by the way, because that is you're putting yourself out
there every single night on live television, doing something you've
never done before, and you started it with zero confidence.
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But that I was just really inspired after that round
of golf with you, because I was just like, he
lives a life that I admired that I want to
do and I want to be more like that. And
I was like, I wonder what that is that he has.
And I was really thinking on that because I really
study people, like I really I'm always wanting to like
level my life up. And I think the same thing
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I just said about that state of delusion and bravery
is the same thing you've carried throughout your you know,
your whole career is you really are not afraid to
put yourself out there.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
You're not afraid for.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
People to be like, why did he get that gig?
And then you go out there and you show them
why you got the gig. Like I've just been very
talking about specifically, the American Idol thing, to me, I
thought was just like I would have been scared shitless
to take that because even though you're so well versed
in music. That to me was just a completely different
thing than other things that you've done. And you're also
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having to stand side by side with Ryan Seacrest, who's
been doing that for decades, and that could have been
very intimidating, and I'm sure it was, but you knocked
it out of the park. And then I saw your
recent podcast about the leverage you had after you initially
signed a particular contract per episode, after they saw what
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you could do and how awesome you did it, you
were able to leverage that into a business opportunity, and
I just I'm very and I'm not you know, I'm
not trying to like boost your ego right now, but
I'm very fascinated with how you've done things in this
business and it's been something that I'm trying to kind
of take a feather from your cap, and I thinks.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
That's nice that. Yeah, I can't wait for you to
Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
I would love that, although I really, I really hope
they don't make me wear heels, but I know I will.
That would be the hardest thing for me. It's not
the dancing, it'd be learning how to walk in the heel.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
That's the one thing that's funny. I did see you
signed with a new agent.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Well I've been with them now for two years. They
were a little slow on the press relate.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
That's the slowest press release I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
I think they were waiting to see if I was
going to get canceled. They were like, we're going to
try and give her two years of not being canceled.
If she can make it for two years, then we'll
we'll announce it. We'll put her name on it.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
It was like danae it signed SI.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Yeah, I remember that because that's I was with CAA
for like ten years and loved him, and it was
like for you know, other opportunities which you know, when
I look at your career, it's like not I'm surprised
that you want to do that stuff. It's like like
what can you not do? Thank you, because there's nothing
really that. The hardest thing is getting up on stage.
Of everything that I've ever done, the hardest thing is
getting up on stage, blank blank canvas and just you
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just it's just you go ahead and entertain for.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Fifty to fifty five minutes. Yeah, that's if you can
do that.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
I'm convinced you can do anything, especially when it comes
to the creative world, Like if you can do medium
stand up comedy.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
I agree, you can do anything.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
I agree, because there's there's a lot of people that
I'll be in the room with that I'm like, I
think they're funnier than I am. Why aren't they doing
stand up? And then I start again, I go back
to that analyzing thing, and uh, it's a they're really
funny when there's things to interact with. But you're right,
with stand up, there's nobody out there interacting with you.
Unless you're doing crowd work. You literally are having to
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create something out of thin air with nobody talking to you.
And yeah, it's challenging, but I'm addicted to it.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Yeah, especially that feeling of when you try a joke
for the first time and it hits. That's the greatest feeling.
Because how I would do my set was I know
that everybody out there is excited for the night, and
the first twelve minutes are free there.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
It is matter what I say.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
They're there, they're gonna laugh at everything for the first
about twelve minutes. There's going to be a point where
now they've paid their money for their ticket and so
they expect to be entertained, not just on the premise
that we're all here together, and I kind of I
could to kind of feel where that was, and so
that's where I would try my first Okay, let's see
if this works, And when I would get that non reaction,
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that's when I knew it was on. I have to
earn everything from here. That was kind of the most
exciting part of the night. Now, sometimes it didn't feel great,
but it was always when it didn't work, because it
didn't always work. Most of the times it didn't work
at first if it was something new, but it was
always the most exciting because I had to earn it
from that point on. So when it did hit, God,
it felt it was awesome. And then if it didn't hit,
it had stuff I could go to. I'd go right
(44:57):
back to the for sure home runs, right because I
didn't want to put out two turns in a row,
so I'd go right back to the home runs. But man,
when you try something new and there's like a half
second of hesitation where you're waiting to see if they laugh,
and they do, it's it's like a sprinkle of joy
in my stomach that I remember, like oh my god,
that works and it will always work.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Yes, yeah, it's this dopamine, yes for sure. And that's
that addicting feeling.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
And I mean.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
I try stuff out like and I know you do
this too, Like if we're in like a like a
group setting, and I know I have a show the
next day and I want to try something new, I'll
try it out that night as long as it makes
sense to put it into the room. And if they
get a laugh out of it, then that builds a
little confidence. And then I'm like, oh, I'm for sure
telling this one tomorrow because I know if I word
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it just like I did that, and I, you know,
segue into it like that, I can get a laugh.
Speaker 6 (45:51):
From it, the Bobby cast will be right back. This
is the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
I would again because I wasn't great at just writing
NonStop material. Well mostly had other jobs too, right, so
I couldn't just focus on material. I wouldn't want to
be to record in my show. So I did no
phones because it was mostly because of my insecurity. I
didn't want something up that wasn't good because I wasn't
good enough to have up stuff that wasn't good. And
do you have any issue with phones at your shows.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Yeah, I mean, we make an announcement. I don't want
to do those yonder bags where people have to do it,
because I know I hate that whenever I have to
go to a show like that. But we make an
announcement from the jump, they still do it. And unfortunately,
several months ago, one of my biggest jokes that I
had written like it was one of those jokes where
like the entire set is written around that joke, and
(46:53):
she posted it on TikTok and it got several hundred
thousand views within the first day, and luck I was
able to message her and I said, hey, can you
please take this down? Like, I appreciate the support and
it means so much to me, but I have to
tell this same joke for twenty more shows and I
don't want to have to rework that. So she took
it down immediately. The very next weekend, I go out again.
(47:18):
It only had two hundred thousand views, but that's still
two hundred thousand people, and I go out. I'm starting
to set the joke up. I have a brief pause
before I say the punchline, and then somebody yells the
punchline and I was like, oh my gosh, So I
had to rewrite that entire bit. And now if somebody
(47:39):
has their phone up, I'll just be like, hey, baby,
can we turn that phone down because I got to
tell this joke twenty more times, you know, and then
everybody puts their phone down.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
There was a moment that we would say at the end,
We'll let everybody get their phone because everybody just wants
to also document the experience, right, Like I'm here at
the show, and we'd be like, Okay, in the last
five minutes, I'm gonna let everybody pull their phones and
you can do whatever you want. But yeah, I just
didn't want my mid material because that's what it was
very mid getting out, because it's all I had, right,
And so I think that's that's really hard for a
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comic now, because you can't do those jokes over and
over again, right unless it's like a really famous famous
joke like the hot pocket jokes and gaff again where
people demand that joke, right, you really can't do it. Yeah,
have you whenever you're done, are you just trash? Are
you putting the whole thing out? Then you're gonna have
to rewrite a new hour.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Yeah, I'm definitely gonna have to rewrite for next year,
but I don't think I'm gonna package it as a
special Instead.
Speaker 4 (48:35):
The formula that works for me is.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
Social clips, so I'll just dice up each each joke
into a social clip. But this past weekend I had
somebody film I sing two songs, two original songs in
my set, and the sound guy, bless his heart, I
don't think this was intentional at all, but he muted
I sing to backtracks, so you get lost in the
(48:58):
sauce if you can't hear those backtracks, and he muted
my wedges completely, both the tracks and my voice. And
I'm trying to stay one beat ahead of the house
music that I can hear, and he did it for
both songs, and there was like fifteen cameras up and
(49:18):
the whole time I'm singing, I'm like, this is where
they post it, and everything goes to hell, like I'm
having that internal dialogue. So as soon as I finished
the song, I was like, I am so sorry about that.
Speaker 4 (49:30):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
That's what happens when you can't hear yourself singing. Just
to let them know, promise I'm not that bad, you know, what.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
Probably they didn't even notice.
Speaker 4 (49:39):
Maybe not.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
Yeah, Like I've noticed the times where I felt like
it was a bad show.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
It doesn't have to be that, it could be a
bad anything.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
That nobody else really thought that nearly to the level
that I did, because I'm inside of it, right, And
I think that has been the one thing throughout my
career that I think that has made me because I, again,
I was very delusional at the start. There were no
arts where I came from small town in Arkansas. You
didn't there weren't arts, right, You again, were an athlete
and I was only an okay athlete, So I didn't
get that. Luckily I was smart, but that wasn't celebrated.
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It just kind of got me out of there.
Speaker 4 (50:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
But I would notice that when I would fail or
i would bomb, or I would miss, or i'd have
a show that didn't work out, that nobody cared.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Yeah, And so there was freedom in that.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Absolutely, and that at the beginning. I struggle with that
because I'm like, I did not deliver that joke or
that that twenty minute bit the way that I usually do.
And then you know, I'm having that internal dialogue. And
then a friend of mine comes to the green room
and says, oh my god, that joke you did tonight
about X, Y and Z, which is the one I
was struggling with, dude freaking funny, and I'm like, Okay,
(50:41):
I gotta have I gotta have a little bit longer
of a leash for myself and know that everything's good.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
Who are your friends like your known friends? You have
country music friends?
Speaker 1 (50:52):
I have, Yes, I have friends in country music, But
I would say, like a lot of my friends, like
my rider Diyes, aren't not musical artists.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
But who are your famous friends my famous friends?
Speaker 1 (51:05):
I would say Ella Langley, Laney Wilson, Briley, and Marcus King.
Ashley Cook because she has to be my friend cause
I'm dating her sister. Now. Every time I've been around
Jelly and Bunny, they're they act like they've known me
for twenty years and I've probably only met them seven
or eight times.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
But he's your oldest famous friend.
Speaker 4 (51:28):
My oldest famous friend that they.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
Probably weren't even famous when you became friends with them.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
Laney, Yeah, Laney, Laney, I don't know if you could
have probably asked one hundred people in this town, Hey,
do you know Lanny Wilson, and maybe fifteen of them
would have been like, I've heard that name. I met
her on a bar at Winters and Losers several years
ago and she had her hair on top of her
(51:53):
head in a messy bun, no makeup on, and I
walked up to her and I was like.
Speaker 4 (51:57):
Hey, I'm Denay.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
She's like, I'm Laney Wilson. And I was like, I
feel like I've heard your name. She's like, yeah, you
probably have. I've written some songs. And then all of
a sudden, her boyfriend comes around the corner and I
go Devlin and he goes Denay, and I was like,
what are you doing here? He's asked my girlfriend Laney,
and I say, oh, I just met her. Come and
find out. Me and Devlin went to the same high
(52:19):
school together in Nowhere, Alabama. And so yeah, Lane and Laney,
I'm telling you I was just talking about this. Lane
is literally the sweetest human being of anybody I know. Like,
I don't think she knows, like when she's in a
social interaction, I don't think she knows that people are
literally ooing and awing over being in the same room
(52:42):
as her, because she just feels so down to earth
and is the same girl I know today, is the
same girl I met at Winters and Losers.
Speaker 3 (52:50):
How did you get to know? Ella Langley?
Speaker 1 (52:52):
Ellen and I met at the People's Choice Awards and
we just hit it off. We're just two peas in
a pod. She's, you know, also from Alabama and got
a funny sense of humor. And so she turned around.
She was sitting in the pew in front of me,
and she turned around and she was like, I know you,
and I was like, I know you. And She's like,
you know what we need to do. We need to
(53:13):
get together and do some dumb shit. And I said, hell,
yeah we do. And so me and her have just
been really good friends ever since then and filmed some
dumb shit together for sure. And yeah, she's a good egg.
She's I say it on camera too. Ella's crazy. She
knows she is, and I'm crazy and I know I am,
and that's why we're good friends.
Speaker 3 (53:34):
Why did you move here?
Speaker 1 (53:37):
I moved here because property taxes were too high in Austin.
Got that, yeah, And I wanted to be closer to
my dad. My dad's two and a half hours away.
Speaker 3 (53:44):
Were you living in Austin? Yeah, so was I.
Speaker 2 (53:46):
Yeah, not at the same time. I mean we both
came from there and property taxes were too high.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
Yeah, two point nine nine percent. I was paying twelve
hundred dollars a month on a four hundred thousand dollars house.
So if I even had that house completely paid off,
which I didn't, I was still paying a mortgage on
a high else. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
No, property tax is always just a weird thing in general,
like you continue to pay on something you already own,
especially when you get old, Like there should be a
cutoff because it sucks that old people have to pay
taxes if they're retired and they don't have money coming in.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
Well, my grandmother gets that in Alabama. I don't know
if it's just Alabama, so what is it. So she's
completely property tax free. However, her property tax a year
is I think six hundred dollars, So I don't know
if they're doing that in Austin or not. But yeah,
it was just too expensive to live there, which sounds
funny because now I live in Nashville and it's pretty
darn expensive too, but in better ways.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
Why but why now you can have moved anywhere, you
can move to La can moved to New York.
Speaker 3 (54:37):
You could have moved.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
I lived out in California for two years, and I'm
just so southern. I can talk to anybody, and I
crave that when the waitress sits your coffee down, I'm annoying.
Speaker 4 (54:52):
I won't.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
I want to hear about her grandkids. Like I just
I get a lot of fulfillment from small talk and
human connectivity, and so I had a hard time with
that out in California. Austin was a very friendly place,
but I also really wanted to be closer to my dad.
So it was nice that I could live in a
really cool urban city with a lot of things happening,
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even though I wasn't doing anything in the entertainment business,
but also scooted down to see him if I needed to.
Speaker 2 (55:19):
It's got a few minutes left. But do you it's
still weird to me that I make a lot of
money doing something that's like with my brain. Yeah, because
nobody did stuff with the brain where I come from.
Speaker 3 (55:30):
Worked at the mill you worked. Is that still weird
for you?
Speaker 1 (55:33):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (55:33):
Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (55:34):
Because my dad, he's a blue collar construction guy. He
doesn't make money if it rains, you know, he makes
money by having a shovel in his hand and his
body's not aching when he crawls on the bed that night.
That's a bad sign because he didn't put any money
in the bank. And so for me, it's very weird
to know that I'm being able to make money without
(55:56):
busting my butt out in ninety degree with they're in Alabama.
So I'm very self aware of that, and I'm like
over the moon that I have the opportunity to do
something I love that happens to not be ball busting
and allows me ball busting in a different way but
not physically.
Speaker 2 (56:15):
Yeah, that's good in a different way. Yeah, it's hard
to explain the different way though. I don't feel like
I can complain about my job.
Speaker 3 (56:24):
To people that grew up like I did.
Speaker 2 (56:26):
Yeah, because I think the complaint is so different, and
I've done both, so I understand the complaints to both,
and so yeah, unless it's somebody that I know can understand,
like the mental grind, it's like not even worth it
because I would be like.
Speaker 3 (56:42):
Shut up, why are you whining.
Speaker 2 (56:43):
You're whining because your little brain hurts because you can't
think of something funny. I know, I know it's such
a weak I would just.
Speaker 3 (56:48):
Be like, I'll be shut up.
Speaker 2 (56:50):
Why are you You don't you come up with jokes
or things to talk about?
Speaker 3 (56:53):
That's not real, I know.
Speaker 1 (56:54):
And I find myself when I when I am having
a hard day, like an anxious day, and I'm talking
my dad about it, I'm like, I don't really want
to be talking to him about this right now, because
his hard day looks a lot different than mine. They're
both hard but in their different ways, and so I
try to have self awareness of that.
Speaker 2 (57:12):
What's your most recent like pinch me moment? We were like, Wow,
this is so cool, man.
Speaker 1 (57:21):
I would say the Grand Ole Opry debut was pretty
pretty on up there. I had a custom suit made
that was read in honor of one of my favorite
Southern comics, Jerry Klower, because he always performed there in
a red suit.
Speaker 4 (57:35):
And I was like, this is really crazy.
Speaker 1 (57:36):
I've seen a million clips of Jerry Klower in a
red suit at the Grand Ole Opry. And when they
called my name out and my dad was on the
front row, I was like, holy cow, how the hell
did we end up here?
Speaker 3 (57:51):
What's crazy about you? Saying that?
Speaker 2 (57:52):
The first time I ever played the Opry. I told
the Jerry Klower joke on purpose, Like I said it,
I said, my grandma, who's I used to watch the
opry with. Yeah, it was such a Jerry Clower fan.
It's why I even know what the opry is, right,
And so I told comics don't cover jokes. But I said,
and I said that, I said, but I'm gonna tell
a Jerry Clower joke because the only reason I'm here
is because of my grandma. But that Jerry Klower was
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also like a part of what you saw the grand
Ole Oprty to be because of your dad. That's pretty
wild because that's what I knew that the grand Ole
Opry from was Jerry Klower and then all the music
associated with it as well. But it was always the
comedy and who like, yeah up on stage, Yeah, yeah,
that's funny.
Speaker 4 (58:29):
Yeah that that.
Speaker 1 (58:30):
And so I'm watching my dad watch me with this
sparkle in his eyes of like, holy cow.
Speaker 4 (58:38):
I literally played her.
Speaker 1 (58:39):
So many Jerry Klower tapes and now I've influenced her
enough to love that style of comedy that now she's
getting to do that. That was having my dad front row,
which by the way, was not a comp ticket. They
were gonna the comp ticket, she know, or several rows back.
My dad was so tickled Bink he bought an eight
hundred dollars scalp ticket for the grand Ola free.
Speaker 4 (59:00):
I was like that, you didn't have to do that.
Speaker 5 (59:02):
Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor,
and we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 3 (59:17):
Final question.
Speaker 2 (59:18):
Yeah, you're a YouTube channel. You have to make content constantly.
Speaker 1 (59:23):
YouTube is the thing I hate the most, so I've
kind of taken a break from YouTube. I do mostly
short form now. As you know, long form is an animal.
It's an animal, so.
Speaker 2 (59:37):
In every way, make like that, conceiving the idea, shooting it,
editing it, editing is just as hard getting the timing
right as it is actually doing it.
Speaker 4 (59:47):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (59:47):
Yeah, because I was watching some of your videos and
not the last couple weeks, but like when you were
like combining all the foods, and it's.
Speaker 3 (59:53):
Just it's a it's a hustle.
Speaker 1 (59:55):
It is such a hustle. And I've also found that
I just don't consume a lot of YouTube. I consume
a lot of short form, and I think my brain
just knows how that looks. And I felt like I
was trying to find a needle in a haystack on YouTube,
and I was trying to force myself to watch YouTube,
but I never could get through a full video because
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I don't consume it.
Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
So I was like, you know what, let's just stick
to what we know.
Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Maybe if my agent's watching this because he really wants
me to get on YouTube, maybe I'll circle the wagons back.
Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
But for now, I just love short form so much.
Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Do you want to act?
Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Yes, yep, No, that is literally I would give up everything,
like literally everything. I'd give up my entire bank account,
I'd give up every social media platform I have. I
would give up stand up comedy if it led me
to comedic TV and film roles, because that is literally
(01:00:51):
the thing I have dreamed about the most. Don't get
me wrong, I love stand up comedy. I'm addicted to
it like I need it. But I've dreamed about being
a comedic actor like Lucille Ball, Martin Lawrence, Eddie Murphy,
Robin Williams playing characters in the same movie you're playing
yourself like that has been a dream of mine since
(01:01:11):
I was a little girl.
Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
How are you trying to get there?
Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Well, I have a self tape tonight. So yeah, so
a lot of self taping and a lot of writing.
I'm writing like a mad woman right now for TV
and film because there's a lot of connections I've built
over the last several years in writers in LA that
initially have reached out to me for writing and not acting.
(01:01:35):
But I'm finding a way to put myself in those groups.
Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
Yeah, I mean that.
Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
It's all the ways are hard, but the easiest way
to be involved in something is to create it yourself exactly.
Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
Yeah, so that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
I'm like, if nobody's gonna call, I'll create something where they.
Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
Have to call.
Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Before you came in, we were talking about the tour,
but just a reminder, we'll put it in the notes
the first time tour till after Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
Then said, then you're done.
Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Then the clips come out, and the clips come out. Follow
Dnay and go to Denae Hayes dot com. This has
been awesome, ib me, thank you so much. Yeah, it's
it's I've spent time with you as a human being.
But it's sometimes whenever people are just funny online, sometimes
you don't get to know them as a human because
you just can like you want views, I want views.
And if I'm sitting here just talking about something people
aren't interested in or that they don't come to me for,
(01:02:19):
They're not gonna watch it, right, So I like to
sit with people who are just known as being like
super funny or and just talking. And this has been
super cool for me.
Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Thank you, Bobby, me say, this has been a highlight
of my life. Month no life, life, Yeah, my life.
Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
I think that I'll go.
Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
I was gonna say, yeah, sorry not no not month yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
Life, yeah for sure and many more lives. Uh there
she has.
Speaker 5 (01:02:37):
Denay Hayes, thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.
I need to find six other people that are doing
very well right now, and I need to absolutely annihilate them.
Tonight when I get home, I'm going to see if
I can't get a feud going with Luke Bryan.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Welcome to episode five forty eight with Danay Hayes. She's
out on tour, the first time tour, which that goes
all the way to the end of November. So you
guys should go to a show if she comes around.
If you hear this after that, I'm sure she's still
not doing stuff. But I'm lucky enough to be friends
with Denay a little bit before this started, or I
don't think we could have gone to some of the
place I wouldn't have felt comfortable going to some of
(00:41):
the places that we went if we weren't already friends.
You could see that, yeah, So especially like she was
put into like gay conversion therapy. She had told me
that story before we talk about it here. That's crazy
man like to be that young.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
It's a wild yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
So I don't want to say too much of it
because you can hear it. And also I knew what
kind of athletes she was from spending time with her,
and I do give her the biggest athletic compliment I've
ever given anyone in the history of this podcast. So
really like Dnay. You probably see her from doing crazy stuff.
We talk about our first ever viral video. I think
you probably will know where in a different way after this.
(01:16):
If not, if you don't know where at all, go
check it out. All right here she is, Episode five eight. Comedian.
We won't say influencer, not an influence, not an influencer,
content creator, Danay Hayes Denay.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Good to see you.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Good to see you, Bobby.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Well, my first question is what do you write in
that line that says job like if you have to
go for a medical or anything.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Well, it's changed over the years. It was real estate agent.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I saw that picture. I do want to come back
to that. That's a really cool picture.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Yeah, well thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, what do you have to write now?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Though, I guess comedian, comedian and content creator. It was
content creator for a long time, which most people are like,
what does that mean? And I'm like influencer, which feels
very cheesy.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
By the way, soels like you're selling tell me t Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I hate no, literally, I hate using the word influencer.
But now I just I just get to say comedian,
which also comes with the weird you know, the weird
stuff right after, which is like, tell me something funny,
so I.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Which is the least a fun place to have to
be to tell somebody something funny on command? Yeah, because
unless you have an joke, nothing you say is going
to actually be funny in that particular.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
No instance, I.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Got rufied after a show in hattie's Burg, Mississippi, and
spent eight thousand dollars in a er in Hattiesburg. And
the doctor while I'm physically I feel like I'm dying
on the on the bed. He walks in and he goes,
I hear you're a comedian, and I'm like m He says,
tell me something funny, and I was like unbelievable. Like
(02:49):
Hattiesburg's also the last place you want to be on
your deathbed at I thought.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
You were telling me a joke at first, because that's
a good setup. I got rufied once and hatti's Burg, Mississippi.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
That was real.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
No, that was legit.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, it was the Michael Chandler was fighting and I
went to a bar to watch his fight right after
my show, and I took one drink from a fan
who came to my show, and then.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
I was violent.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Like I used this word to explain because it's the
only thing that makes sense. It was violent. I think
I threw up seventy times in forty eight hours.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
When did you know something was up? Uh?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
When I started getting up about thirty minutes after consuming
one drink and I was shadow boxing the bartender, Like
no joke. I literally started shadow boxing the bartender and
my crew that was with me was like, something is
going on with her? Like this is not She had
one drink and then immediately I said, guys, I don't
feel right. I gotta go home. By the way, I
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love that we're starting the podcast on this. I was like,
I have to go. I got to go back to
the hotel, and so they took me back to the
hotel and then it just went downhill fast.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
The motivation to rufy someone that's with a crew is
lost on me. Not that I understand the other motivation,
but if I were going to be a roofy person,
I would look for a vulnerable person by themselves.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Right, you have people with you and do you think
it was the fan?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Well, I think what happened is not to speculate, but
the person she was with, this other woman. I don't
know what their relationship details were, but that girl did
not like that. The other girl bought me a drink
and she came over and said something really smart to me,
and I just brushed it off, and I was.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Like, man, that was really weird energy.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I didn't approach them, they approached me, So this is
very odd that she's starting trying to start beef with me.
So I just was like, I'm just going to consume
this drink and then not, you know, try to talk
to him anymore. And the doctor says he believes that
she poured a significant amount of vizine eye drops in
my drink, So.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Not predatory as in somebody trying to take you home
with them, but maybe just to hurt you.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Yeah, I think it was. I think it was that
I was crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, dude, it was the first time I've ever experienced
that kind of energy, and I was so sick. And
I think she just did it just because she was
mad at the other girl for buying me a drink. Yeah,
And I'm not kidding when I say I literally threw
up seventy times in two days, like I thought I was.
At one point, I thought I was gonna die because
I was hallucinating in my hotel room by myself at
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three o'clock in the morning. And I just weirdly called
my step mom at three o'clock in the morning. I
don't even remember doing this, and she was like, are
you okay? And I was talking about just the weirdest stuff,
and so she called an ambulance. They came and got me. Sorry, no,
they did not come and get me. She called the
ambulance and the nurse. And this is a true story.
The nurse in her Honda Accord drove to my hotel
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because she was a big fan of me, and picked
me up in her Honda Accord as I was throwing
up out the window. Wow, So shout out. I cannot
remember her name. I need to look it up. Shout
out to the nurse in Hattiesburg that drives the white
Honda Accord.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
It feels like you were collateral damage in a very
unhealthy relationship.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yes, I was one hundred percent collateral damage in a
lesbian psychotic relationship. And I can say that, okay, the
it was psychotic behavior.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Have you heard from either one of them since even
on social media. No, like DM Bernard DM anything like that.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
No, no, I think that.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I think that girl's probably like because I told a
story about it without pointing fingers at them.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
I just said I got really sick.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Like I show a story like a bit.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
No, just I was just saying like, hey, you got
to be careful of who take you know, who you
take drinks from. I was like, cause, I'm not sure
exactly what happened, but I threw up seventy times. And
then I'm sure she probably saw that and was like
viazine does the trick?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
The picture that I saw of you, it was like
this many years ago or it's something like that, and
it was you selling real estate. Yeah, that was such
a cool picture like that that made me like feel
don't feel much. That made me feel a little yeah. Yeah,
So you started out like professionally trying to do real
estate or were you successful at it?
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Yeah? Well no, no, it was not. I was.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I was selling like maybe six or so up in
houses a year that were like between eighty and one
hundred thousand dollars in my hometown in Alabama, So my
commission was like two thousand dollars a sale. So then
I was like, okay, wait, if I'm going to grow
this business, I got to find a way to actually
pay my bills. So I started doing softball lessons in
softball camps, and that was kind of just to make
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ends meet.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
But I did a little bit of everything.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I did pharmaceutical sales, real estate, sports, broadcasting, softball camps.
I even worked in a pyramid scheme. Bobby, which one
beach Body.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yeah, I got the videos. Yeah, like that was a
pyramid scheme.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Yeah, brother, hip hop abs and.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I would see the commercials and I think I probably
dabbled in that a bit.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I mean they make great programs, but you know, getting
you like your grandmother, your aunt, your uncle, your cousins
all to sign up. Eventually they stop inviting you to
the family get togethers. And because I was annoying about.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
It, your whole family at Beach Bodies. That's awesome. Yes,
literally all abs at everything.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Well, they weren't doing them programs, but on paper they were.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
How did that Did you make any money doing that
at all?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Yeah? Yeah you could.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
You could actually do really well as long as you
were using social media. I mean, and that's that's actually
like I'm I'm I'm embarrassed about it, you know, because
of the whole pyramid scheme stuff. But it's what taught
me how to use social media, because I had to
create reels and tiktoks in order to get people signed up.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I think I did beach Body for a minute.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
You did hip hop abs with Sean t.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Because Beach Body, the hip hop abs didn't take very.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Long, no and yeah, and you didn't want to be
seen doing it, and you could.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
This would be a great.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Setup to You could actually start hip hop ad classes
in here.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
This would be perfect.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
You mean keep them going. We actually do them every Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Yeah, okay, well buy me next time. I know them.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
We did Tybo in college.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I know them.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
You ever do Tybo?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I don't even know what Tabo is. Sounds like a
nickname from somebody back home.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Tibo Tibo was like Billy Blanks and it was a
like a karate exercise class.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
It was much like Beach Body.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Like I was in the phase of just I don't
have friends, so I would buy stuff and do workouts
with people on screen.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Got it?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
So I did all those workouts with people that I
thought were my friends. They were supplement to my friend groups.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I mean listen, not to throw complete shade. There was
honestly like the community with those types of things, like
people are actually you know, changing their lives and they're
getting healthier and they're losing weight. It's just once you
can you know, lift the veil of like how kind
of crazy that structure of the payout and all that is,
you know, you kind of lose what the intentions are
(09:33):
behind it. But the programs themselves, like shout out to
Beach Body, they did a great job.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Did you have a first video that went viral? Do
you remember?
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
My first one was your first video ever.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
No, no, not my first one, no, but my very
first viral video. I just randomly. I was only posting
fitness stuff at this point. That's how I was making
a living. And one day I prank phone called a
taxidermis in twenty twenty one from Alabama and asked him
if he would stuff my dog. And I thought he
(10:06):
would be like, no, no, we can't do that, but
instead he threw me for a loop and he was like, yeah, absolutely,
we do it all the time.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
And I was like, oh, I haven't thought this for ahead.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I was like, oh, okay, great, Uh, well, how do
I get him to you? And he was like, well,
where is he right now? And I was like, well,
he's in he's in the deep freezer. And this man
was like, You've done everything right to this point, and.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
I was like, this is unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
So I clipped it and I posted it on TikTok,
and within like a week it had like twenty one
million views.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
It was wow, that's super viral, dude.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
It was absurd, and I woke up the next day
I think I had maybe like fifty thousand TikTok followers,
and I woke up the next day with two hundred
and fifty thousand, Like it just literally changed my life.
So I posted another one the next day of me
prank phone calling a dairy queen and asked him if
they I could bring a tupperware container in to fill
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it up with the hot syrup to put it on
my husband. And it got like twelve million views, and
then again another one got ten and then another one.
At the time, I was the only person on TikTok
posting prank phone calls, so it worked to my advantage.
But then other people started doing it, and so I
was like, well, I don't want to just be known
as the prank caller, so I started dabbling in like
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sketches and characters and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Did you make any money doing that on TikTok?
Speaker 4 (11:28):
The Creator Fund is really weird.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Obviously on that video, I think I made a couple
of thousand dollars. But the Creator Fund, I've noticed, as
your followers, and I hope TikTok doesn't see this and
like shadow ban me or something, but as your followers increase,
your payout decreases. So like you, when I was just starting,
I was actually making more money on the Creator Fund
(11:52):
than I am now because they kind of almost want
to reward the newer creators.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I felt because I got in the Creator Fund for
a while, but I felt like they were suppressing my
videos where they would not hit as hard normally, because
when I got out, it kind of proved that, yeah,
because I was, I wasn't doing anything any different, but
like the same type of video with Then once I
got out of the Creator Fund and they have to
pay anymore, right, they would pop more. And so I
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really wasn't using that as like a mainstream of income.
So I just stayed out of the Creator Fund, but
I found the same thing. Is that generally how people
feel about that.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, a lot of my friends don't don't do the
Creator Fund for that reason. I've toggled it on and
toggled it off. I can't tell a difference all my stuff,
but a lot of my friends, who are you know,
influencers or comedians, they will not use it because they're like,
the money I'm making is not worth it over the
engagement and the views I'm going to get.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
You came up on my for you page.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I follow you, but you came up on my for
you page the other day and you were doing a
joke about I think it was your dad's saying, don't.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Shave your head.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Yeah, buzz coat my hair.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
And it's a good joke.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
And also but I was like, oh, wow, she's actually
posting material because I was never good enough to post
material meeting. My material was good, but I didn't have.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Enough of it.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Well, it's weird too because I'm still doing the same set.
So it's the first time tour right now that I'm
on and I only have nine more shows and that
I'm done, so it's very weird. You have to like
pick and shoes. You know, you have to pick and
choose which jokes you're willing to burn, because if I
pick one of my bigger jokes, I have to rewrite
twenty minutes of my set because then they know the joke.
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And I don't do a ton of crowd work. So
crowd work's kind of the only way to be able
to constantly circulate comedic stuff. But I don't do a
whole lot of crowd work. I have a really hard
time having a joke at the expense of other people.
I hate making somebody leave my show feeling like I
bully them or I made them feel embarrassed or humiliated,
(13:52):
and so I don't do a lot of crowd work,
and if I do, it's more of me, kind of
like laughing with them instead of laughing at them. But yeah,
it's I'm now getting to the point where after these
nine shows all have filmed my whole set and I
can start burning every single joke. So get ready, Bobby,
because I think that's all my page is gonna be.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
That was my fear was I will because it's not
like a song where a lot of our friends can
play and put a song out and then they people
want to hear the song again. Yeah, they want to
hear it every time they do a show. Once you
hear a joke, you kind of it's kind of dead.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
It's done.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
And so I would be like, I'm not posting anything
except like crowd interactions because I knew those they were
never gonna happen again because it was all circumstantial to
that night and those people.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
But yeah, I saw it and I.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Was like, oh, wow, that's a good joke, and a
little bit I was like, wow, I can't belive she's
posted a joke, right right, actually still touring.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Right, yeah, because that I still use it.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I had two shows this weekend and I still used it,
and I noticed that it still got the same type
of laughter. Because I have to remind myself not every
single person at my show has seen every single video
I post. But yeah, dude, this weekend, I'd love to
know you take on this. This weekend, I had two
women in the middle of my set get into a
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full blown physical altercation and one of them got arrested.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
And now I'm like, I want to.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Post that, But do I need to blur their faces
out or do they deserve it? I feel like I
might need to put like an emoji over their face.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I think it actually probably gets more traction if you
do blur it.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
It makes it more like yeah, uh naughty.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
I'm like I shouldn't be watching.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
That right And in my mind, I'm like, what would
Gavin Adcock? Do you know?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
He'd yell at Beyonce?
Speaker 4 (15:35):
I need to.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Find six other people that are doing very well right now,
and I need to absolutely annihilate them in what way?
Just every way? Bobby like online, like start a feud, Yeah,
start a feud. I'm going to start a feud tonight
when I get home. I'm gonna see if I can't
get a feud going with Luke Bryan and see where
that takes me. And then if Luke doesn't bite, I'll
(15:56):
I'll maybe go for like a gospel artist.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, mostly for what happens with that after you die, Right,
that's true more than what happens today.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
It is true.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
That's a bad investment for the future.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, maybe not a go Okay, we'll do maybe I
don't know, Maybe I start one with Carrie Underwood or something.
I don't know, just to shake things up for her.
You know, why were the people fighting one of them.
I started into a joke about my coming out story
when I was twenty four, and uh, the lady on
the second row was a gay woman. The lady on
the third row was there with her husband, and she said,
(16:28):
apparently I don't know this to be true, but she said,
why is she talking about lesbian stuff? And the woman
on the second row turned around and said, because she
is one, And the lady was like, well, I wish
she'd stop.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
And my whole.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Set is not you know, gay this, gay that, but
I do have like a good solid ten minutes of
my coming out story living in Alabama, because that alone
is is hilarious. And they started getting into it, and
I had to stop my show for about five minutes
and like do like a therapy session because I thought
(17:03):
we were headed for a rally, you know, like I
thought this was about to turn into a rally in Treeport,
And so I got them quieted down and then you
just see me walk off stage at the end of
my set, and they get into like it looks like
a wrestling gridlock where one lady's got her by the
back of the head and the other woman's got her
by the back of the head and they're just giving
each other hell and then they finally like separate. The
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husband gets in between, and then the next video is
a police officer putting handcuffs on the woman who made
the lesbian comment.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
And you have it.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Oh yeah, I've got it.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I'd for sure, I'd blow their faces out, for sure,
but i'd put it up. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I was doing a show on Massachusetts once and somebody yelled,
I will shoot you, and.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
So every Massachusetts Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
It was in like outside of Springfield, Massachusetts, and so
everybody starts to yell, Oh my god. Obviously it's dark
out there, so I can't see what's happening. Also, I
didn't say anything that made them want to shoot me,
but I'm like, oh god, So the lights flip up,
the cops are out people that they are escorting people
out of the theater. But I was told this is
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in like my first year of ever touring, like you
have to hit fifty minutes or fifty whatever's in the contract. Yeah,
So I just sat down on the stage because I
was like, I'm not going to not get paid. So
I sat down on the stage to make sure I
did not leave for fifty five minutes. I didn't understand
the rules. I could go back and then come back right, so,
but they ended up arresting somebody. It was like somebody
kept talking, like talking, like if it's a comedy show,
(18:31):
like the worst thing that we can have doing spoken word,
Hey it can be a poetry show, is somebody talking
because it's going to interrupt our rhythm and our cadence.
And it doesn't help us when you like talk with us, No.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Not at all, And in fact, it throws it throws
everything off. It also just doesn't make for a fun
environment for everybody else, you know, like that's sitting around
them because they're constantly having to listen to them. And
when I first started, I didn't know how to handle that.
So I just let it go and go and go.
And now I'll give them a warning in a very
nice way, like hey, baby, can we can we quiet
(19:06):
down just a little bit. And then but it's hard
to follow the rules when you're drunk. You know, being
drunk and following the rules don't go together. So after
I've given them a warning, then I have a code
word with my security team. And once I say that
code word in the set, because it keeps me from
having to look like a bad guy. Once I say
that code word, they go over and they don't grab them,
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but they say, can can you come outside with us?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
And then yeah, it sucks to have to do that
because they're there. They're they're there because they're.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Like your person, right, and it sucks to have to
go like, hey, you got to shut up, right, because
you're ruining it for everyone. And that's what that fight
was about that night. It was specifically about somebody talking
and even like talking back to me a little bit
during the set, right, but it was running their time,
and they're like, you got to stop, and that turns
into U and one yell's I'll shoot you, and so
everybody scrambled and left, and I obviously I never got
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the room back. Everybody came back in and we went
along and finished the show, but I never got the
room back. That that obliterated any sort of continuity of
the night.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Oh yeah, I had a woman lay down.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
The closest I got to a situation like that is
I had a woman lay down for twenty five minutes.
She had army, crawled from her seat to the handicap
ramp and grabbed the rail and she.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Was like, I ain't leaving. I'm her cousin.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
And I was like, oh my god, do I have
a cousin in Arizona. I was like, oh my god,
I hope not.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
No, I literally did.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I was like, I'm racking my brain of which crazy
cousin is at my show right now. So I had
to get off stage, go down there and like reason
with her like an FBI agent and be like, hey,
if you'll get up, I'll take you to dinner tonight.
And that was the only thing that got her up
on her feet, and then they escorted her out of
the venue. She punches a police officer in the face
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in the like in the nose. They arrest her, and
then her wife comes to the meet and greet later,
and I was just like that was when I started
to realize my brand is a lot roudier than I
ever thought. It was like like the it's got kind
of like a it's like a like a show for
the good old boys and the gays, and it's like
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you really don't know if the NRA sponsoring it or
if Glad sponsoring it.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Like it's just very you.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Need to separate them like at a wedding too. Yeah,
it's a little bit of both. So this side you're here,
what you do your meet greats after the show? Yeah, yeah,
that could be problematic too, And it is they're drunker,
then they're drunk.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
And because of my most popular song, they gift every
meet and greet, I get gifted he said, a dildo
every meet and Greek, and they want me to sign
it and they want me to take pictures with it,
and it's usually always their husband's taking the pictures, and
so they're.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
A lot rowdier. Like I always thought that.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I don't know, I don't really know what I thought
my brand was, but this year has really showed that
it is much roudier than I anticipated. Like I went
to Rock the South this summer in Coleman and I
had to do three corps lot shotguns with three different men,
and a man pinched off a Copenhagen thing out of
his pocket and put it in my lip for a picture.
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And that was when I was like, man, like, I
might need to dial it down a little bit.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I think it's a mixture of your warmth and people
feel like they know you, they like you, they're close
to you, even if they're not. So there's this automatic
there's no barrier, right because they feel like they know
and that is that's a huge compliment. But also, as
you can see, it gets to a point where it
starts feel a bit dangerous.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
For me, it was when people were kissing me. Yeah,
I had to stop and be like I can't.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Like.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I love that people feel like they know me, right,
but when they're like grabbing me and like kissing me
on the face and stuff, I'm like, I don't like that. Man,
thank you for enjoying what I do, but no touching
like that.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
No, I feel that I signed a girls piece of
paper and then the next day she sent me a
video of of a tattoo of my signature on her
right butt cheek, and I was.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Just like, cheek.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
I was like, I was just like, oh.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Like yeah, so it just yeah, it's been jarring because
I like, I think, because of what you do and
what I do, you're people are always consuming your voice
and they're always seeing your face and same with me
on social media, so it does create a very intimate
relationship for them, which I love. I want to feel
very connected to my fans, but when stuff like you know,
(23:29):
like the kissing stuff happens, you're like, oh, man, Like man,
they they're a little too comfortable with that.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
And you're right. If you say something, you're the bad guy.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
So you got to have somebody that's there with you, right,
that makes sure that doesn't happen.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Right, Yeah, kissing stuff, it's going to gross me out.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
And that's when I had to go a I I'm
so honored, But no lips on any part of my body.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
You know, when I was single for for this past year,
nobody ever wanted to kiss me, which now my feelings
are a little hurt, Bobby, because I never had any
free kisses after my So.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I should dig your meat greets before though, Yeah, I
should be because then at the end of the show,
you're done.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Yeah, and there's such relief. You don't need my advice.
I change because I used to do that, but I
just liked at the end of the show to be done.
Get my crap.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
If I want to go eat with my people, if
I want to go find a fly home.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I'm so I'm so weird about pre show anything. I
won't let family, friends or anybody come into the green
room before the show because my energy is just so different.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
I think it might.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
It might throw me off in the odd chance that
one of them says something that is weird or condescending
right before I go out on stage. So I like
to kind of keep all of the the energy for
after the show once I've already performed, just because I'm
so weird. Like even my dad he'll be like, can
we come back and see you in the green room,
And I'm like, I'll see you after, dad.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Pre show, Yeah, pre show.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor,
and we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Where did you grow up in Alabama?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
I grew up in a little town called Morris. It's
like thirty twenty thirty minutes north of Birmingham, about eleven
hundred people.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Were you a lesbian there?
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Maybe I've been a lesbian for a long time.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
No, not what I mean. Were you a lesbian where
you were living and people knew it?
Speaker 4 (25:23):
No?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
No, I didn't come out until I was twenty four.
But it was hard, Bobby, because I was you know,
I was dressing like Morgan Wallen but trying to get
a boyfriend, and that's really hard to do in Alabama,
you know. But I was I've known I was gay
since I was like eight years old. I didn't know
what the word gay meant, you know, and would I
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would like see Rosie O'Donnell on TV as a kid
and be like, I can kind of see something there
that reminds me of me, but not really, but like,
we didn't use the word gay growing up in Alabama ever.
And then I told my parents when i'd come home
from second grade, I was like, hey, I don't really
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know what's going on with me, but I've noticed all
the boys in my class like the girls, and all
the girls like the boys, but I like the girls.
And so a couple of weeks after that conversation, I
was taken to what's called conversion therapy, which I think, Mike,
I don't know, it might be illegal now, but so
I just straight away from that topic completely. After that conversation,
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I was like, I don't want to do anything that
would bring shame to my family or embarrassment to me,
So I'm going to stay completely away from that. And
then once I graduated from college, I was like, man,
there's no like, there's no going back, Like I'm as
gay as a football bat.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
So I just was like, I'm going to tell my
mom and.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
That, what is conversion therapy like in Alabama? I mean
at all, but I mean in Alabama feels like it's
extra CONVERSI yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
It does, right.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Uh. I don't really know if my conversion therapist was
a legit therapist. He always sat in a recliner with
his feet up when I walked in, and he always
was eating a sandwich out of his zip lock bag
that his wife had sent him, and he was always
just working on getting that white bread mayonnaise like unstuck
from the roof of his mouth, you know.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
But he would always.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Say because I remember this because he said it every
single time it was one on one therapy with me
and this guy, and he would always look at me
and he would say, Denay, it is not a sin
to think about robbing the bank, but it is a
sin to rob it. And as an eight year old
or nine ten, however old it was in second grade,
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I could remember being so confused because I was like,
what did my parents tell him I don't want to
be a bank robber?
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Like where do his analogies with an eight or nine
year old?
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Yeah? I was like, what is he talking about? I
don't want to rob a bank.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
I like girls, you know, And so it was just
a lot of like using like things like that to
bring shame onto the idea of like acting out on it,
if you will. I didn't go to him for a
terribly long time, but I went to him long enough
to where the things he said. I was at such
an impressionable young age that like those things really. I mean,
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I'm thirty two now and I can still quote that
thing that he said because he said it every single day.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Did your parents feel like you were being converted in
conversion therapy?
Speaker 4 (28:27):
You know?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I don't know if at that age they were too
concerned about that. I think at that age they were
just very protective of me. And I have a lot
of empathy for my parents. I know there's a lot
of people that want me to be so mad at them,
and you know, speak ill of that time in my life.
And this might be controversial or it might be like
a hot take, but it was nineteen ninety or two
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thousand ish, you know, and eleven hundred people in my
small town, and they were true in their minds. I
can understand even if they went about it in the
wrong way, because I would do it differently if I
had a kid, But in their minds, they had never
been confronted with anything like that, and I think in
their minds they knew that if I was different than
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everybody in my class because there was not a single
gay person. I think they were just like, we don't
want to see our child who has such a big
heart and wears heart on her sleeve and truly has
a love for life, like I'm such a happy person
by nature, and I was that way as a kid,
And I think they were just trying to protect me
from being bullied or ostracized, because my dad has told
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me a million times he's like, yes, did we go
about it the wrong way? Absolutely, But I wanted you
to be able to make that decision when you were
emotionally equipped to deal with some of the hate and
judgment that was going to come with it. Even though
I don't think that hate and judgment was warranted, I
would be stupid to think and delusional to think that
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it wouldn't happen. So I was trying to protect you
in a way, but I went about it in a
way that I shouldn't have.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Do you and your dad still have a close relationship.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Oh yeah, my dad's my best friend.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
My dad is absolutely just the greatest thing on earth
as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
So I assume he's more accepting.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Than Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
If I told my dad I wanted him to hang
a gay Pride flag, he'd.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Be like, oh shit, but I'll do it. If that's
what you need from me, I'll do it.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
When did that turn happen?
Speaker 1 (30:30):
That happened about the time i'd come out, about twenty four.
So you know, the first thing my dad said to
me when I came out is he looked at me
stone cold, and I thought he was about to be mean.
He just looked at me and he said, well, baby,
at least you can't get pregnant. And then he was like,
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good luck telling you, mama. You know. So he brought
humor to it because that's helped me and him connect
and then ever since then, he's ever made a single
comment that I felt was hurtful. So my dad's a
great My dad is a great example of just loving
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your child unconditionally.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I think you're the best athlete that I know, and
I know some good athletes. I know professional athletes. I
do an NFL show with a former NFL quarterback. I
still think you're the best athlete that Bobby.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
That is so kind of you.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
That is the greatest compliment I can be given because
I devoted so much of my life to that.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
So thank you for saying that.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
It's crazy like we played golf. It's the last time
I actually played golf was the time I played with you.
Some would say I quit because I got beat by you.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Some would say I quit because I won.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
I guess not, like I.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Knew people that knew you, and we had talked on
social media before and I didn't have to worry about
dming you and my wife seeing it because you're gay.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
She was right, who cares?
Speaker 4 (31:51):
The best part?
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, And so.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I saw you playing like on a Tuesday afternoon, and
so I just messaged you and I was like, hey,
I don't have friends can play it midday afternoons either.
My job's weird, so I do have like one o'clock
I can play golf sometimes on a weekday.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
And I was like, let's play.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
And we tried a couple times and you were gone
or I was gone, and finally we got we went
and played and and I've played with good female golfers.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
And this is gonna offend somebody, I just don't know who.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
But you didn't even play from the women's teas, and
I will because I there's like a part of me
when I do play with women golfers, I always forget
to stop at the red teas because most of the
time we don't play with women, and so we don't stop.
We all play at the blues or the whites or no.
I never played tips, and so then we just always forget.
And I was like, god, dang it, I should have
stopped at the red tees. And I thought, I'm going
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to play with d nave. I don't have to stop
all the time at the red teas. No, not only
did I not have to stop at the red teas,
you do not play there like you beat me like from.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
The same teas.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
It was why and it wasn't just And again this
I hope this isn't like roofie creepy, but like you
move like such an athlete, Like your body, your physiology
is that of an athlete, where I'm just like, man,
you're and then I learned that you are also a
Division one softball player in all but yeah, I think
the best athlete.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
I know that is very kind of you. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I I just yeah, I would say athletics has always
come extremely easy for me. I can move my body
like how I want to move it, whether it's wakeboarding
or golfing or softball. I just have a lot of
control over my body. But it was never the thing
I was the most passionate about, which is funny that
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that's when people ask me, why did you get started
in comedy in your thirties, And I'm like, well, the
arts were not celebrated where I grew up. If you
wanted to be celebrated and you wanted to be cool,
you played, you played sports.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
So but golf is.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Something I've I've gotten into now that softball's over with,
and I am so ultra competitive that it's I'll go
out and play with myself and I just want to
I just want to beat my score yesterday.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
So I appreciate you saying that, because I really do
love golf.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
She didn't beat me bad, by the way, I think.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
No, it was if somebody's listening to this and they're like, oh,
I'm gonna go play with.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
To day and she's going to be a scratch golfer.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Absolutely not if you played from the red teas probably.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
When I was playing.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
So I don't play from the red tea's because I
only play with guys and like that same thing every
time I forget to tee off there or they pass it.
So I'm like, you know what, I'm just gonna play
with them, and that way I can have better conversations
with them because I'm not getting out at an awkward spot.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Because a lot of the talk is on the tea
box or the green Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
When I when I was playing from the reds consistently
and taking lessons, which is that helped a bunch. But
I was shooting in the eighties, like the the low
eighties pretty frequently, and then I stopped completely playing for
like three years. And it's you know, it's like riding
a bicycle sometimes when it comes to driving, and then
other times it's like the first time you've picked up
a driver. It feels like So it's take I have
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to be playing consistently to feel really good.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
I gotta imagine you were really good high school softball player.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Yeah, in high school, in high school as a shit bobby,
I ain't gonna lie. I think I hold that I
did hold the state record for most RBIs in a season.
I think I had seventy seven, and I was the
only player from Alabama to be chosen to play in
the ever to be played in the under Armor All
American Game. I think I had close to like seventy.
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I want to stay close to seventy career home runs.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
But I was much bigger back then too, which was
you didn't see a short stop at one hundred and
seventy pounds. I weighed like one twenty eight now, But
I was one hundred and like sixty five seventy pounds consistently,
and I could I could just move really good laterally.
And then when I got to Alabama, I was much
better on defense than I was at the plate, which
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was so frustrating for me because again I was known
for being a power hitter.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
I was the three to four hole hitter, and.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Then I got to Alabama and just completely had a
mental breakdown at the plate for three out of the
four years.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
But I held my own on defense.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
I think I had like I think I had four
ESPN Top ten plays on defense.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
So that's that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
That's my that's my claim. To fame.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
When people look at my stats at Alabama, it doesn't
tell the full story because I would like for them
to pencil in four ESPN Top ten plays. That'd be
really nice because then they see a two seventy hitter
at the plate and I'm.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Like, where did you play?
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Position?
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Short stop?
Speaker 1 (36:27):
My well, my freshman year when we won the Natty,
I was at second base. Hated it because it's like
a foreign language going from shortstop to second. And then sophomore, junior, senior.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
I played short won national championship.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
That's right, Yeah against Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Don't tell Patty. Don't don't rub it in Patty's face.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
I remember I told DJ, my brother in law, Patty's son, guess.
So I was like, hey, I played golf, and he
was like, man, she was a scrappy ball player, like
he remembered it.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Also, because I wonder sometimes I never had I never
had a like a big ego. I was like when
I played, I just I wonder. Now I'm like, I
wonder if Patty remembers me.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
She remembers everybody. Yeah, yeah, I mean she's that kind
of coach. Okay, good, well, that makes it feel about
every detail, every person, good or bad.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Like I remember this one play and I'll have to
show you after and I can send it to you.
But I remember this one play. Ball was popped up
in foul territory right behind the third base bag. I'm
running over, just waving people off because it's an easy
can of corn for the third baseman. She trips on
the bag and I look down out of the corner
of my eye and I see her on the ground,
and I'm like, oh my god, I got to catch
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this ball.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
So I do art to go catch it.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
And as I'm about to catch it, Patty stands in
the coaching box because she doesn't have to move, and
she stands there and makes me catch this ball around
her body. And after I caught it, I just remember
her thinking, like I could see her face and she
was just like how did she do that? And I
wanted to be like, why didn't you move, Patty, Like.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Dang man, that is I mean that that many even
one ESPN Top ten play, even to be a Division
one athlete, Like, there's so many things. That's why I
think I think you're the best pure athlete that I know.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
And I didn't expect it.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Well, that'll be the biggest compliment I have received in
twenty twenty five, So thank you.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
I also think you're very brave, and not even in
like the typical things that people would be like, oh
you're so brave with the you know, uh coming out
or being from the South.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
I just think you're brave to start doing comedy.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Thank you, because without a comedy background, and I say
this to somebody without a comedy background that just jumped in,
it's it's really hard. Yeah, and you're way better than
I was.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Well, that's very kind of you, but it you hit
the nail on the head. It's I was just talking
to somebody about this yesterday.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
I don't know why I thought.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
I could do this the way that I did it,
But the first time I ever did stand up comedy
was an hour headlining show, which I don't know now,
knowing or knowing what I know now, I wouldn't have
signed up for that.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
But there is.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
You know, ignorance is bliss, and ignorance sometimes can give
you delusion. And so I think, not knowing how hard
it was going to be, or not knowing like the
ebbs and flows of comedy, I was like, yeah, I'll
do it.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
How hard can it be?
Speaker 3 (39:17):
You know?
Speaker 1 (39:17):
And I was just telling my girlfriend this last night.
I was like, the secret ingredient for me and for
anybody else that I've found to admire is you have
to have a state of delusion in whatever you're doing.
You have to be delusional. And I am one hundred
percent deliciously healthy.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
I just said a whole podcast about that.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Like the truly successful people that I know, the one
thing they have in common is delusion that they think
they can do it.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Because without that, without the.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Delusion of doing something that you've never done, like, you
don't even try unless you're a little crazy.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Well, and I when we played golf, we got to
spend like four or five hours together and I really
got to know you that day. And I remember calling
my dad after our round and he was like, how
did they go with Bobby? I was like, Dad, he
is so fascinating because he isn't afraid to try things.
And I was like, I know this might sound cheesy
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because I'm bringing up like a dancing competition and it
may seem low stakes to the other things that you
do in life, but I was fascinated that you were
willing to sign up for that competition and win it,
by the way, because that is you're putting yourself out
there every single night on live television, doing something you've
never done before, and you started it with zero confidence.
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But that I was just really inspired after that round
of golf with you, because I was just like, he
lives a life that I admired that I want to
do and I want to be more like that. And
I was like, I wonder what that is that he has.
And I was really thinking on that because I really
study people, like I really I'm always wanting to like
level my life up. And I think the same thing
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I just said about that state of delusion and bravery
is the same thing you've carried throughout your you know,
your whole career is you really are not afraid to
put yourself out there.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
You're not afraid for.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
People to be like, why did he get that gig?
And then you go out there and you show them
why you got the gig. Like I've just been very
talking about specifically, the American Idol thing, to me, I
thought was just like I would have been scared shitless
to take that because even though you're so well versed
in music. That to me was just a completely different
thing than other things that you've done. And you're also
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having to stand side by side with Ryan Seacrest, who's
been doing that for decades, and that could have been
very intimidating, and I'm sure it was, but you knocked
it out of the park. And then I saw your
recent podcast about the leverage you had after you initially
signed a particular contract per episode, after they saw what
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you could do and how awesome you did it, you
were able to leverage that into a business opportunity, and
I just I'm very and I'm not you know, I'm
not trying to like boost your ego right now, but
I'm very fascinated with how you've done things in this
business and it's been something that I'm trying to kind
of take a feather from your cap, and I thinks.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
That's nice that. Yeah, I can't wait for you to
Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
I would love that, although I really, I really hope
they don't make me wear heels, but I know I will.
That would be the hardest thing for me. It's not
the dancing, it'd be learning how to walk in the heel.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
That's the one thing that's funny. I did see you
signed with a new agent.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Well I've been with them now for two years. They
were a little slow on the press relate.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
That's the slowest press release I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
I think they were waiting to see if I was
going to get canceled. They were like, we're going to
try and give her two years of not being canceled.
If she can make it for two years, then we'll
we'll announce it. We'll put her name on it.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
It was like danae it signed SI.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Yeah, I remember that because that's I was with CAA
for like ten years and loved him, and it was
like for you know, other opportunities which you know, when
I look at your career, it's like not I'm surprised
that you want to do that stuff. It's like like
what can you not do? Thank you, because there's nothing
really that. The hardest thing is getting up on stage.
Of everything that I've ever done, the hardest thing is
getting up on stage, blank blank canvas and just you
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just it's just you go ahead and entertain for.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Fifty to fifty five minutes. Yeah, that's if you can
do that.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
I'm convinced you can do anything, especially when it comes
to the creative world, Like if you can do medium
stand up comedy.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
I agree, you can do anything.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
I agree, because there's there's a lot of people that
I'll be in the room with that I'm like, I
think they're funnier than I am. Why aren't they doing
stand up? And then I start again, I go back
to that analyzing thing, and uh, it's a they're really
funny when there's things to interact with. But you're right,
with stand up, there's nobody out there interacting with you.
Unless you're doing crowd work. You literally are having to
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create something out of thin air with nobody talking to you.
And yeah, it's challenging, but I'm addicted to it.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Yeah, especially that feeling of when you try a joke
for the first time and it hits. That's the greatest feeling.
Because how I would do my set was I know
that everybody out there is excited for the night, and
the first twelve minutes are free there.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
It is matter what I say.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
They're there, they're gonna laugh at everything for the first
about twelve minutes. There's going to be a point where
now they've paid their money for their ticket and so
they expect to be entertained, not just on the premise
that we're all here together, and I kind of I
could to kind of feel where that was, and so
that's where I would try my first Okay, let's see
if this works, And when I would get that non reaction,
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that's when I knew it was on. I have to
earn everything from here. That was kind of the most
exciting part of the night. Now, sometimes it didn't feel great,
but it was always when it didn't work, because it
didn't always work. Most of the times it didn't work
at first if it was something new, but it was
always the most exciting because I had to earn it
from that point on. So when it did hit, God,
it felt it was awesome. And then if it didn't hit,
it had stuff I could go to. I'd go right
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back to the for sure home runs, right because I
didn't want to put out two turns in a row,
so I'd go right back to the home runs. But man,
when you try something new and there's like a half
second of hesitation where you're waiting to see if they laugh,
and they do, it's it's like a sprinkle of joy
in my stomach that I remember, like oh my god,
that works and it will always work.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Yes, yeah, it's this dopamine, yes for sure. And that's
that addicting feeling.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
And I mean.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
I try stuff out like and I know you do
this too, Like if we're in like a like a
group setting, and I know I have a show the
next day and I want to try something new, I'll
try it out that night as long as it makes
sense to put it into the room. And if they
get a laugh out of it, then that builds a
little confidence. And then I'm like, oh, I'm for sure
telling this one tomorrow because I know if I word
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it just like I did that, and I, you know,
segue into it like that, I can get a laugh.
Speaker 6 (45:51):
From it, the Bobby cast will be right back. This
is the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
I would again because I wasn't great at just writing
NonStop material. Well mostly had other jobs too, right, so
I couldn't just focus on material. I wouldn't want to
be to record in my show. So I did no
phones because it was mostly because of my insecurity. I
didn't want something up that wasn't good because I wasn't
good enough to have up stuff that wasn't good. And
do you have any issue with phones at your shows.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Yeah, I mean, we make an announcement. I don't want
to do those yonder bags where people have to do it,
because I know I hate that whenever I have to
go to a show like that. But we make an
announcement from the jump, they still do it. And unfortunately,
several months ago, one of my biggest jokes that I
had written like it was one of those jokes where
like the entire set is written around that joke, and
(46:53):
she posted it on TikTok and it got several hundred
thousand views within the first day, and luck I was
able to message her and I said, hey, can you
please take this down? Like, I appreciate the support and
it means so much to me, but I have to
tell this same joke for twenty more shows and I
don't want to have to rework that. So she took
it down immediately. The very next weekend, I go out again.
(47:18):
It only had two hundred thousand views, but that's still
two hundred thousand people, and I go out. I'm starting
to set the joke up. I have a brief pause
before I say the punchline, and then somebody yells the
punchline and I was like, oh my gosh, So I
had to rewrite that entire bit. And now if somebody
(47:39):
has their phone up, I'll just be like, hey, baby,
can we turn that phone down because I got to
tell this joke twenty more times, you know, and then
everybody puts their phone down.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
There was a moment that we would say at the end,
We'll let everybody get their phone because everybody just wants
to also document the experience, right, Like I'm here at
the show, and we'd be like, Okay, in the last
five minutes, I'm gonna let everybody pull their phones and
you can do whatever you want. But yeah, I just
didn't want my mid material because that's what it was
very mid getting out, because it's all I had, right,
And so I think that's that's really hard for a
(48:11):
comic now, because you can't do those jokes over and
over again, right unless it's like a really famous famous
joke like the hot pocket jokes and gaff again where
people demand that joke, right, you really can't do it. Yeah,
have you whenever you're done, are you just trash? Are
you putting the whole thing out? Then you're gonna have
to rewrite a new hour.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Yeah, I'm definitely gonna have to rewrite for next year,
but I don't think I'm gonna package it as a
special Instead.
Speaker 4 (48:35):
The formula that works for me is.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
Social clips, so I'll just dice up each each joke
into a social clip. But this past weekend I had
somebody film I sing two songs, two original songs in
my set, and the sound guy, bless his heart, I
don't think this was intentional at all, but he muted
I sing to backtracks, so you get lost in the
(48:58):
sauce if you can't hear those backtracks, and he muted
my wedges completely, both the tracks and my voice. And
I'm trying to stay one beat ahead of the house
music that I can hear, and he did it for
both songs, and there was like fifteen cameras up and
(49:18):
the whole time I'm singing, I'm like, this is where
they post it, and everything goes to hell, like I'm
having that internal dialogue. So as soon as I finished
the song, I was like, I am so sorry about that.
Speaker 4 (49:30):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
That's what happens when you can't hear yourself singing. Just
to let them know, promise I'm not that bad, you know, what.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
Probably they didn't even notice.
Speaker 4 (49:39):
Maybe not.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
Yeah, Like I've noticed the times where I felt like
it was a bad show.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
It doesn't have to be that, it could be a
bad anything.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
That nobody else really thought that nearly to the level
that I did, because I'm inside of it, right, And
I think that has been the one thing throughout my
career that I think that has made me because I, again,
I was very delusional at the start. There were no
arts where I came from small town in Arkansas. You
didn't there weren't arts, right, You again, were an athlete
and I was only an okay athlete, So I didn't
get that. Luckily I was smart, but that wasn't celebrated.
(50:07):
It just kind of got me out of there.
Speaker 4 (50:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
But I would notice that when I would fail or
i would bomb, or I would miss, or i'd have
a show that didn't work out, that nobody cared.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Yeah, And so there was freedom in that.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Absolutely, and that at the beginning. I struggle with that
because I'm like, I did not deliver that joke or
that that twenty minute bit the way that I usually do.
And then you know, I'm having that internal dialogue. And
then a friend of mine comes to the green room
and says, oh my god, that joke you did tonight
about X, Y and Z, which is the one I
was struggling with, dude freaking funny, and I'm like, Okay,
(50:41):
I gotta have I gotta have a little bit longer
of a leash for myself and know that everything's good.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
Who are your friends like your known friends? You have
country music friends?
Speaker 1 (50:52):
I have, Yes, I have friends in country music, But
I would say, like a lot of my friends, like
my rider Diyes, aren't not musical artists.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
But who are your famous friends my famous friends?
Speaker 1 (51:05):
I would say Ella Langley, Laney Wilson, Briley, and Marcus King.
Ashley Cook because she has to be my friend cause
I'm dating her sister. Now. Every time I've been around
Jelly and Bunny, they're they act like they've known me
for twenty years and I've probably only met them seven
or eight times.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
But he's your oldest famous friend.
Speaker 4 (51:28):
My oldest famous friend that they.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
Probably weren't even famous when you became friends with them.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
Laney, Yeah, Laney, Laney, I don't know if you could
have probably asked one hundred people in this town, Hey,
do you know Lanny Wilson, and maybe fifteen of them
would have been like, I've heard that name. I met
her on a bar at Winters and Losers several years
ago and she had her hair on top of her
(51:53):
head in a messy bun, no makeup on, and I
walked up to her and I was like.
Speaker 4 (51:57):
Hey, I'm Denay.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
She's like, I'm Laney Wilson. And I was like, I
feel like I've heard your name. She's like, yeah, you
probably have. I've written some songs. And then all of
a sudden, her boyfriend comes around the corner and I
go Devlin and he goes Denay, and I was like,
what are you doing here? He's asked my girlfriend Laney,
and I say, oh, I just met her. Come and
find out. Me and Devlin went to the same high
(52:19):
school together in Nowhere, Alabama. And so yeah, Lane and Laney,
I'm telling you I was just talking about this. Lane
is literally the sweetest human being of anybody I know. Like,
I don't think she knows, like when she's in a
social interaction, I don't think she knows that people are
literally ooing and awing over being in the same room
(52:42):
as her, because she just feels so down to earth
and is the same girl I know today, is the
same girl I met at Winters and Losers.
Speaker 3 (52:50):
How did you get to know? Ella Langley?
Speaker 1 (52:52):
Ellen and I met at the People's Choice Awards and
we just hit it off. We're just two peas in
a pod. She's, you know, also from Alabama and got
a funny sense of humor. And so she turned around.
She was sitting in the pew in front of me,
and she turned around and she was like, I know you,
and I was like, I know you. And She's like,
you know what we need to do. We need to
(53:13):
get together and do some dumb shit. And I said, hell,
yeah we do. And so me and her have just
been really good friends ever since then and filmed some
dumb shit together for sure. And yeah, she's a good egg.
She's I say it on camera too. Ella's crazy. She
knows she is, and I'm crazy and I know I am,
and that's why we're good friends.
Speaker 3 (53:34):
Why did you move here?
Speaker 1 (53:37):
I moved here because property taxes were too high in Austin.
Got that, yeah, And I wanted to be closer to
my dad. My dad's two and a half hours away.
Speaker 3 (53:44):
Were you living in Austin? Yeah, so was I.
Speaker 2 (53:46):
Yeah, not at the same time. I mean we both
came from there and property taxes were too high.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
Yeah, two point nine nine percent. I was paying twelve
hundred dollars a month on a four hundred thousand dollars house.
So if I even had that house completely paid off,
which I didn't, I was still paying a mortgage on
a high else. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
No, property tax is always just a weird thing in general,
like you continue to pay on something you already own,
especially when you get old, Like there should be a
cutoff because it sucks that old people have to pay
taxes if they're retired and they don't have money coming in.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
Well, my grandmother gets that in Alabama. I don't know
if it's just Alabama, so what is it. So she's
completely property tax free. However, her property tax a year
is I think six hundred dollars, So I don't know
if they're doing that in Austin or not. But yeah,
it was just too expensive to live there, which sounds
funny because now I live in Nashville and it's pretty
darn expensive too, but in better ways.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
Why but why now you can have moved anywhere, you
can move to La can moved to New York.
Speaker 3 (54:37):
You could have moved.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
I lived out in California for two years, and I'm
just so southern. I can talk to anybody, and I
crave that when the waitress sits your coffee down, I'm annoying.
Speaker 4 (54:52):
I won't.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
I want to hear about her grandkids. Like I just
I get a lot of fulfillment from small talk and
human connectivity, and so I had a hard time with
that out in California. Austin was a very friendly place,
but I also really wanted to be closer to my dad.
So it was nice that I could live in a
really cool urban city with a lot of things happening,
(55:13):
even though I wasn't doing anything in the entertainment business,
but also scooted down to see him if I needed to.
Speaker 2 (55:19):
It's got a few minutes left. But do you it's
still weird to me that I make a lot of
money doing something that's like with my brain. Yeah, because
nobody did stuff with the brain where I come from.
Speaker 3 (55:30):
Worked at the mill you worked. Is that still weird
for you?
Speaker 1 (55:33):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (55:33):
Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (55:34):
Because my dad, he's a blue collar construction guy. He
doesn't make money if it rains, you know, he makes
money by having a shovel in his hand and his
body's not aching when he crawls on the bed that night.
That's a bad sign because he didn't put any money
in the bank. And so for me, it's very weird
to know that I'm being able to make money without
(55:56):
busting my butt out in ninety degree with they're in Alabama.
So I'm very self aware of that, and I'm like
over the moon that I have the opportunity to do
something I love that happens to not be ball busting
and allows me ball busting in a different way but
not physically.
Speaker 2 (56:15):
Yeah, that's good in a different way. Yeah, it's hard
to explain the different way though. I don't feel like
I can complain about my job.
Speaker 3 (56:24):
To people that grew up like I did.
Speaker 2 (56:26):
Yeah, because I think the complaint is so different, and
I've done both, so I understand the complaints to both,
and so yeah, unless it's somebody that I know can understand,
like the mental grind, it's like not even worth it
because I would be like.
Speaker 3 (56:42):
Shut up, why are you whining.
Speaker 2 (56:43):
You're whining because your little brain hurts because you can't
think of something funny. I know, I know it's such
a weak I would just.
Speaker 3 (56:48):
Be like, I'll be shut up.
Speaker 2 (56:50):
Why are you You don't you come up with jokes
or things to talk about?
Speaker 3 (56:53):
That's not real, I know.
Speaker 1 (56:54):
And I find myself when I when I am having
a hard day, like an anxious day, and I'm talking
my dad about it, I'm like, I don't really want
to be talking to him about this right now, because
his hard day looks a lot different than mine. They're
both hard but in their different ways, and so I
try to have self awareness of that.
Speaker 2 (57:12):
What's your most recent like pinch me moment? We were like, Wow,
this is so cool, man.
Speaker 1 (57:21):
I would say the Grand Ole Opry debut was pretty
pretty on up there. I had a custom suit made
that was read in honor of one of my favorite
Southern comics, Jerry Klower, because he always performed there in
a red suit.
Speaker 4 (57:35):
And I was like, this is really crazy.
Speaker 1 (57:36):
I've seen a million clips of Jerry Klower in a
red suit at the Grand Ole Opry. And when they
called my name out and my dad was on the
front row, I was like, holy cow, how the hell
did we end up here?
Speaker 3 (57:51):
What's crazy about you? Saying that?
Speaker 2 (57:52):
The first time I ever played the Opry. I told
the Jerry Klower joke on purpose, Like I said it,
I said, my grandma, who's I used to watch the
opry with. Yeah, it was such a Jerry Clower fan.
It's why I even know what the opry is, right,
And so I told comics don't cover jokes. But I said,
and I said that, I said, but I'm gonna tell
a Jerry Clower joke because the only reason I'm here
is because of my grandma. But that Jerry Klower was
(58:13):
also like a part of what you saw the grand
Ole Oprty to be because of your dad. That's pretty
wild because that's what I knew that the grand Ole
Opry from was Jerry Klower and then all the music
associated with it as well. But it was always the
comedy and who like, yeah up on stage, Yeah, yeah,
that's funny.
Speaker 4 (58:29):
Yeah that that.
Speaker 1 (58:30):
And so I'm watching my dad watch me with this
sparkle in his eyes of like, holy cow.
Speaker 4 (58:38):
I literally played her.
Speaker 1 (58:39):
So many Jerry Klower tapes and now I've influenced her
enough to love that style of comedy that now she's
getting to do that. That was having my dad front row,
which by the way, was not a comp ticket. They
were gonna the comp ticket, she know, or several rows back.
My dad was so tickled Bink he bought an eight
hundred dollars scalp ticket for the grand Ola free.
Speaker 4 (59:00):
I was like that, you didn't have to do that.
Speaker 5 (59:02):
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and we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 3 (59:17):
Final question.
Speaker 2 (59:18):
Yeah, you're a YouTube channel. You have to make content constantly.
Speaker 1 (59:23):
YouTube is the thing I hate the most, so I've
kind of taken a break from YouTube. I do mostly
short form now. As you know, long form is an animal.
It's an animal, so.
Speaker 2 (59:37):
In every way, make like that, conceiving the idea, shooting it,
editing it, editing is just as hard getting the timing
right as it is actually doing it.
Speaker 4 (59:47):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (59:47):
Yeah, because I was watching some of your videos and
not the last couple weeks, but like when you were
like combining all the foods, and it's.
Speaker 3 (59:53):
Just it's a it's a hustle.
Speaker 1 (59:55):
It is such a hustle. And I've also found that
I just don't consume a lot of YouTube. I consume
a lot of short form, and I think my brain
just knows how that looks. And I felt like I
was trying to find a needle in a haystack on YouTube,
and I was trying to force myself to watch YouTube,
but I never could get through a full video because
(01:00:16):
I don't consume it.
Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
So I was like, you know what, let's just stick
to what we know.
Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Maybe if my agent's watching this because he really wants
me to get on YouTube, maybe I'll circle the wagons back.
Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
But for now, I just love short form so much.
Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Do you want to act?
Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Yes, yep, No, that is literally I would give up everything,
like literally everything. I'd give up my entire bank account,
I'd give up every social media platform I have. I
would give up stand up comedy if it led me
to comedic TV and film roles, because that is literally
(01:00:51):
the thing I have dreamed about the most. Don't get
me wrong, I love stand up comedy. I'm addicted to
it like I need it. But I've dreamed about being
a comedic actor like Lucille Ball, Martin Lawrence, Eddie Murphy,
Robin Williams playing characters in the same movie you're playing
yourself like that has been a dream of mine since
(01:01:11):
I was a little girl.
Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
How are you trying to get there?
Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Well, I have a self tape tonight. So yeah, so
a lot of self taping and a lot of writing.
I'm writing like a mad woman right now for TV
and film because there's a lot of connections I've built
over the last several years in writers in LA that
initially have reached out to me for writing and not acting.
(01:01:35):
But I'm finding a way to put myself in those groups.
Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
Yeah, I mean that.
Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
It's all the ways are hard, but the easiest way
to be involved in something is to create it yourself exactly.
Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
Yeah, so that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
I'm like, if nobody's gonna call, I'll create something where they.
Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
Have to call.
Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Before you came in, we were talking about the tour,
but just a reminder, we'll put it in the notes
the first time tour till after Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
Then said, then you're done.
Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Then the clips come out, and the clips come out. Follow
Dnay and go to Denae Hayes dot com. This has
been awesome, ib me, thank you so much. Yeah, it's
it's I've spent time with you as a human being.
But it's sometimes whenever people are just funny online, sometimes
you don't get to know them as a human because
you just can like you want views, I want views.
And if I'm sitting here just talking about something people
aren't interested in or that they don't come to me for,
(01:02:19):
They're not gonna watch it, right, So I like to
sit with people who are just known as being like
super funny or and just talking. And this has been
super cool for me.
Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Thank you, Bobby, me say, this has been a highlight
of my life. Month no life, life, Yeah, my life.
Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
I think that I'll go.
Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
I was gonna say, yeah, sorry not no not month yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
Life, yeah for sure and many more lives. Uh there
she has.
Speaker 5 (01:02:37):
Denay Hayes, thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.
Host
Bobby Bones
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