#557 - Katie - Host of Girls in Low Places on Country Music in the UK + Backlash From Viral Moment with Riley Green + Why She Flashed Tucker Wetmore + Industry Plants, Honky Tonks, The Spice Girls - Bobbycast

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
That would be such a good storyline for the podcast though,
Come on, Bailey, get me pregnant.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
And welcome to five point fifty seven. This is Katie Akin.
She is the host of the Girls in Low Places
podcast and how this came together was I literally just
came across to the content in my feed and I
DM them and I was like, this is really funny.
So Girls in Little Places they are based in London,
and they are a country music podcast, but obviously it's
a bit different because they're in London.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
She's very British.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
There were times I think, I don't know what was
left in this episode, and I'm not even going to
go and look and see what was left in. And
at the end because her podcast partner and her friend
who was with her is a lawyer, and we were like,
well ask some of this stuff. You got a pull
for sure. I don't know what was edited out. I
would imagine not much, not a whole lot. There were

(00:56):
times that I didn't quite know what she was saying
because she's so British and they use different words than us.
I say to her, I'm just trying to figure out
what you're saying sometimes. But I had a lot of
fun with this because she was a lot of fun.
Did you know what a union jack was?

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Did not know?

Speaker 3 (01:12):
I learned a lot of words during this.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
So I did know what a union jack was. And
only because of Jerry Hallowell Ginger spices. That's the only
reason I know what that sign is. It's like the
British sign like that. It's on the flag, right.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
It's on the flag.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
I think it is the flag, isn't it. Yeah, now
I'm confused. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
But so yeah, we talked about country music. We talk
about a whole lot of stuff, and I encourage you
to check out their podcast, Girls in Low Places.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
I will tell you the sea word gets used. Did
we leave that in?

Speaker 1 (01:43):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Oh we cut it.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, Dan's heavy, It's a lot. Dang, that's good.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
The whole thing surrounding is a little what do you
mean there's a lot of words used in that time. Okay, Well,
like can we say this like I did a whole
thing where I was like, I like it when British
people say the sea word. I like one of American
July say it's gross, but Bridge people make it sound
funny and I was. And so we talked about that
but Dan cutting room floor. Yeah, okay, up on my
death really sick. Okay, yeah, I released all the things

(02:10):
we've cut over.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Now we don't do that. Don't do that.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
My estate will be soon surely. So this is Katie.
We did this the day of the Cmas. Yeah, so
when we talk a bit, that's the episode, just like
two days ago. But check out the episode again. It's
called Girls in Low Places. The instagram is at the
Girls in Low Places and just go from there. Anything

(02:34):
I'm leaving out, You're good, Okay, this is fine. Here
she is Katie Akin, Katie, go to meet you.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
I'm this is so surreal.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
You were talking about like three things at once, but
I said, don't say anything, so I don't even know what.
So let's start with you were just about to talk
about something. I said, stop, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
What was it.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
I find one of the hardest things about doing our
podcast when like country stars come into the UK is
that we just talk way too much before the podcast
even begins, because we're like, hi, how are you, how
was your trip? Did it and something brilliant some gold
will come up and I'll be like, god, damn it,
we're offline and I'm a yapper. I talk and you
were just telling me, oh.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, it almost feels cold and rude because I will
do it and I'll say no, say nothing because I
don't want to waste anything.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
I know.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Whenever Colby Cala came over and she lives around here
and I know her, she was like, you know, you're
kind of cold before an interview, and I was like,
I don't want to wait. I don't want to waste anything.
So the sooner we get down and talking, like the
warmer I get.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of like I felt like it's
kind of like negging. Lots of people do that in
the UK. Do you know what negging is? It's like
when people are like mean to you at first, you
like then want to win their approval, so you sort
of then like give more.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
What's called negging.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
It's called negging.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Okay, Yeah, So where do when you guys do your podcast,
Like an artist come to you because I watched I've
watched your podcast.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yes, do you have like a safe is.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
It like a yes, we have a studio. Yeah, but
obviously when an this is in town in London, they're
there for like maybe like I don't know, two days,
three days tops. They normally have a show on maybe
two of the days. And I actually have also quite
liked turning the podcast like more from just a podcast
into more of an immersive satire experience. So sometimes, mainly
with the female acts, I really like to get them

(04:17):
in the studio. It feels like a really like girl
coded yap and we can just talk and talk and
talk about nice girly things. But I think with the
guys it actually works to kind of like create turn
it into more of a show, like make it something
a play on on something that they have done, either
a music video or like a wore a beard and

(04:38):
dressed up as Isaac from forty nine Winchester Riley obviously
Riley Green we did we went on a serial date
and we recreated worse Way crawling off the table. So
I kind of like the creativity of that now, like
it's kind of spoofy, it feels like a little bit
more country Music's Chicken Shop. That's kind of where we're
going with it.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Are you finding it easier to get artists to come
by now that you have some, because once you get
like three or four, yeah, then you can go. We've
had these and if you think you're too good, well
they didn't, yes, and so people it's a lot easier
once you get a fore.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
You Yeah, it's it definitely has turned. We felt the
tables turned. But I will say, and this is one
of the reasons why I wanted to start a country
music podcast in the UK, is that I kind of
saw the gap that when country artists come over they
actually do a press run. That kind of means you
get better access quicker in the UK because there's not
so many they really want to promote themselves in the UK.

(05:30):
Everybody want seems to want to break the UK market
from what I understand.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
It is Europe in general.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, yeah, and so therefore they're more willing to do
more press and I saw a gap that I was like,
if we had something female focused, we might be able
to get some really good guests pretty quick or like,
you know, we were quite shocked by the level of
guests that we could get from the jump because people
want to celebrate country and want to build it up
there and they know it's booming, so we just can't
believe the level. But we've got to so quickly, like

(05:57):
it's absolutely surreal.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
I mean not some of my friends that will tour
and go over, it's a what they like about it.
And what's also difficult is it's an ego check for
them because they will be doing amphitheaters or even arenas
and they'll go there and the audience is much smaller. Yes,

(06:20):
and so for them, a couple things happen. One, it
reminds them of what it used to be like, which
is oftentimes a good reset. Secondly, yeah, you kind of
have to be nicer when everybody doesn't love you.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
And so they go over and you know, it's kind
of like a head game.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, where they go and they are not universally celebrated
because people don't know them near as much as they
do here.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah. Absolutely. I think it's also something that, like you say,
the small crowds, small audiences. I think that's why in
the UK there's this boom has actually like divided the
hardcore long term country fans because we got to have
the most incredible guests and we still do to us
to a point because all the kind of tree is booming.
It's nowhere near what it is here, but we used

(07:03):
to be able to see a huge, huge artist who
only plays arenas in a really small venue, and that
kind of meant that now we have the new country
fans coming in and that's changing and the arena's getting
bigger all but there's loads of tickets being sold and
we know no one could get a ticket anymore. Those
old school country fans are really frustrated because they used
to be able to see Luke Combs in like a

(07:25):
three hundred person venue for twenty.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Quid, like the Originals.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
It's just like any band here whenever you're like a
day one er and they start to get popular and
the people are like, no, I love them, like, but
you didn't love them back when.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
I used to. Oh yeah. Like we've had a whole
thing about the Luke Holmebs Wembley tickets, Like people are
saying only original fans should be able to get pre
sale access. All these new fans can't come and enjoy Country,
and I just hate that. Like that's something that we
as a podcast like want to lead, Like we want
to bring in the new fan. We want to get
people to bigger, better venues. We want to have like
our own mini Nashville in like Camden somewhere, like that's

(07:57):
that's where we I see like country music going in
the UK. It's huge, Like we are a rural, countryside place.
We have so many things that align with country music.
And I think that maybe when Americans think of the UK,
people focus on London because you think the Queen, you
think the fucking palace, you.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Think, don't give me too many What do I think
of when I think of London, I think of, well,
it's not a prince anymore, but Charles yeah King.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah, I've kind of soured on that.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
I don't I'm not a big royal family guy anyway,
but I understand the need for them. Yeah, and I
understand you guys' need for them because what a money
generator that is. Yeah. Yeah, So I'm gonna go that.
I'm gonna go soccer, just general soccer.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, Ted Lasso comes up a lot.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Oh No, I wasn't thinking Ted last I was thinking
like Premier League that airs at three in the morning. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, soccer,
uh big bin yeah, football, big bin.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yep, you're not thinking fish and chips, Fish and chips.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
I've been to.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
London, yeah, yeah, and like it.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
You know what I liked about it is that everything
was like old and we in America were like, man,
look at this building is from nineteen twelve.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
This is old. And there's like just.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
A random church or building from thirteen hundred that you
guys just have just people are just chilling in it. Yeah,
that to me was amazing because I'd never seen anything
like that before. So the age and also for the
most part, and I'm probably wrong, but for the most part,
everything is wide and not tall. Yes, there are skyscrapers,

(09:32):
like we're in a small part of London, yeah, I
think right, Yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
It's not like boxed in like New York. Is very
daunting to us. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
So the fact that those buildings were so long and
like the blocks were just it looked like one building
that just rubbed into another like that to me was
wid But I'm from a very rural town. It was
the first time I'd ever been overseas, was when I
went to London. That those are what I think of
when I think of London.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yeah, I mean, we have amazing history oasis.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
I don't think of London because they're not from London.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
They're from Manchester. They're from Manchester, I don't know which.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
To me feels like that feels like country, Like it's
not rural, but not London.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Manchester is still the city. They're still they're still like
city boys in a way, but I think that Manchester
has more rural surroundings. The North is like would be
known as a very rural place. When for Londoner to
think of in the.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
UK, where did you grow up in London?

Speaker 1 (10:27):
So I'm from Surrey, so it's like south of London,
but it's the countryside. It's like rolling hills. The Surrey
Hills are very like famous for being beautiful. It's and
you know, it's an hour from London on the train,
but it's country as I think it's countries agains. I mean,
I've lived in Devon, which is a very farming place,

(10:48):
and that's where country folk and country it's it's everywhere,
and I think it's just sort of starting to bleed
into the cities a lot more that people are listening
to the music and loving yet. But I just think
we have so many parallels with that lifestyle and that's
why people in the UK are trying to emulate it
and they really identify with like it's the what's the

(11:09):
word I'm looking for, Yeah, it's the country lifestyle. It's
it's people wearing cowboy hats to Tesco. That's like our
grocery store. Like people are doing things that you guys
probably think are like cosplay, but we just we we
want to feel it's it's escapism for us. I think
there's something about that, you know, like how I mean

(11:31):
I watch a lot of Bravo, right because I yes, we.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Were talking about it. I'm going to come back to this.
Do you do your thing? I'm going to come back
to that. Go ahead, mom, Momon wives. Yeah, so I
would watch something like Mormon Wives. I watch a lot
of housewives, but when they do Real Housewives in London,
I'm like, I'm not that interested because we want that
American escapism. It feels like it's something slightly detached, like
when we see, for example, let's go Megan Ella and
Riley drama, like that's like our soap opera that we're

(12:00):
enjoying watching and it doesn't feel.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Like it actually affects our politics, what's going on our
day to day. It takes us out of what we're doing.
We can enjoy the music without the political things that
you maybe have to think about. In terms of some
artists doing this that the other like, we don't have
to think about that particularly. We just kind of can
enjoy the music for the music, and I think that's
a part of the escapism that we just can get

(12:22):
out of our day to day lives and I can
listen to Morgan Wall and I can just be like, oh, Okay,
I feel like I feel like I'm in Nashville.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Yeah. I think I would love it a lot more
if I didn't live in it.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, I think that's probably very true.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah, I get very annoyed with it.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
I have a love for it, but I get very
annoyed with the two because I live in it.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
And then you see how I don't know if you
guys have this term, but how the sausage is made.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, you see how the sausage is.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Made, and then you know you're like, you know what the.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Magic is shining off? Okay, I never want to see
how the sausage is made. Okay.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
And there are artists who are awesome people, but there
are some that are so celebrated that.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Are just dirt bags.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, And it is so weird to see the dirt
bags be celebrated as like the greatest people on earth when.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
They're awful people and so but that ruin that runs.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Number one, No, no, no, no, but but but.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
That is a thing. That's that's the thing for me that.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
It makes it not as fun at times because you
see the reality of what's behind it. And also too,
there's like some of my friends are it's such a
roll of the dice too in this town where people
get really famous, really successful, and they're pretty good, and
then you see some people that are freaking awesome. Like
there's one person specifically it is the only I hope

(13:36):
this is not an insult because when you said a
term nagging, naggingigging, I didn't know.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
What that was.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Nagging and nagging very different things.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Do you guys use industry plant? You know what that is?
An industry plant?

Speaker 1 (13:47):
I think, yes, it does happen a lot like the.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Okay, so you do know what?

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Okay, Yeah, there's one of those here that's making it
and it drives me crazy because they're terrible and they
have hits and I want to screen from the freaking
top of the roofs this person sucks. They're not good,
they can't sing, they have all these hits and it's
only because they were specifically placed there by somebody that
has the power to do it, so that really it

(14:12):
turns me off a bit. Yeah, but I still have
such a love even through that.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
It is quite the juxtaposition of like growing up and
loving country music and then also hating the process. And
also I've just fought with it too for so long
because I'm not traditional.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Right, Yeah, yeah, I'm a freaking cardigan.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
I don't want a cowboy hait. You know, you're like
we cosplay and you walk in and I'm in a
cardigan and khakis.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Look I nearly put my cowboy hat on, and I thought,
I know what, I'm not going to do it because
it seems dumb to do that in Nashville as a
British person, to sit here on a point. I mean,
it's up there, so I'm embarrassed.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Anyway, you kind of need I think it works for you. Wait,
so why country music for you? Did you grow up
listening to it at all?

Speaker 1 (14:51):
So? I think country music and musical theater have a
really like and they have a lot of parallels. And
I find that lots of people who like musical theater tend
to like country music because it's very literal. It tells story.
It's very emotional, it's connected. So I did some musical
exist stuff when when I was younger, and then country
music kind of just slid in. I had a really
big love for Carry Underwood in like I don't know it.
It was like I've loved Carried since American Idol. I

(15:14):
just thought she was fantastic. And I think what's interesting
in the UK is that when you find one artist
that you like, you then now have so many capabilities
to bleed into. You'll just hear something else somewhere else,
and you'll be like, Okay, well I like Carrier, but
this Calcivallerini sounds great, Like okay, I'll listen. And you
listen to the albums from top to bottom. We don't
get the hits. We don't get what's on the radio.

(15:34):
We have great radio stations like Absolute and Smooth Country,
but generally when you're listening to that music, you have
to listen to it top the bottom. So that's why
when artists come over, they are amazed that we know
the B sides that we're singing along to every.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Because they're not the B sides, you guys, are just
the side.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, and we get to choose which one is our
favorite song. We don't get told what is our favorite song,
which I think means that that's got a real joy
for the British listeners because it feels very personal to
you of what you're choosing out, and those artists you
feel very connected to because you're like, I chose that
it wasn't spoonfed that I chose to listen to Morgan
one is forty seven songs, whatever it is, you know,

(16:11):
that's something that you pick out. And I think the
artists really appreciate that. When they come over, they are
just blown away by the dedication to the music that
we will have and the fact that we are British
and we tend to be quiet and listen to the
songs like almost like as if it's like a recital.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
And that culture is that music? Is that the culture
for you guys at a concert?

Speaker 1 (16:31):
No, not all concerts. So this is what's interesting, right.
So in the UK, I would say country music wasn't
cool and it was definitely an older crowd, that it
was kind of a unmature crowd that was kind of
pitched to like those radio stations that I just suggested,
I'd say they have a slightly older listenership generally, but
for the most part for a while. I think now

(16:51):
that's changed, but I think so then the older crowd
will go and they wanted to have a very peaceful
and enjoyable, nice evening, and I'd oft and go and
feel like I was like one of the youngest people
in the room, but like it would be nice because
it would be quiet, respectful and lovely like some people.
It's not as you go to a gig and people
wouldn't even dance, like Lady I went to a Lady
Wilson gig and people didn't even move, Like how can

(17:12):
you not move at a Lady Wilson gig. So when
the crowd started to get a bit younger and a bit
viber like, I loved it. I was like, thank god,
I can feel like I'm actually in a honky tonk.
I feel like I'm actually you know. It felt like
a bit more like authentic to me that we weren't
just standing there as if it was like an opera something.
But again it's it's it's quite a divided place right now,
the country fan because some people are going. I loved

(17:34):
it when it was like that, I didn't want these
drunk idiots having a good time. I wanted to listen
to every beat and hear a pin drop. And then
other people are saying, well, now I want to go
and have a party. It's you know, who's a party person,
who's a party artist? I can't blank. Yeah, I want
to go and party to co artsle like I don't
want to stand there next to you know my mum.
So it's it's creating a bit of friction in the

(17:56):
gig and the ticket space for sure.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Have you ever been to a hockey talker Rowe?

Speaker 1 (18:00):
I think I've been. I've been to the Nashville Palace.
Is that honky Tonk? Is that Pope?

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Anything in Nashville though, feels a bit cost play though.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yes, well it's very Vegas on Broadway, like you got
to do it, yeah, and you find just I mean
we found ourselves two nights in a row down there.
We didn't even choose to. But you just you get
sucked in. You have to surrender and you love it.
As a British we we love that. But like it
is cool because like we have a videographer who we
who like I met when I first came to CMA
first here when we have We're a Baby podcast, and

(18:30):
I just said, we just need to do man on
the street stuff anything, talked to all the drunk people
and get just any content. And he took me around
like some cool places in East Nashville, and I kind
of like got to see another side that felt so
much more authentic.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Have you been to any more any other states just
in general in America?

Speaker 1 (18:46):
New York?

Speaker 3 (18:47):
No, not, They're bad.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
That's not going to be a honky tnk honky talk aboutist.
I really want to go to Austin. Actually I know
that you.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Austin's great, like but like Oklahoma, Arkansas,
there's no reason for you to go.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
But if you do go, that's where that's.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Where the honky honky honky tonks are. That's a lot
of used to the word honkey. I'll be honest with you.
I don't know if you guys have that word over there.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
And what do they say. They say that's more honk
and less tongue or something they say.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
I don't know they are, I've not said that, but yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Growing up, we had the Electric Cowboy in Arkansas, uh huh,
and a lot of honkey talks. Pull the real ones
sprinkle in like nineties or two thousands since hip hop.
Yeah right, okay, the ones that are like trying to
be fake honky tonks really do the extra honk as
you'd say.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Extra honk.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Well, even when I went to the Nashville Palace, like,
I was so shocked that they were all line dancing
to like to the left, to the left, to the right,
and I was like, oh, take this desk a church.
I really hope you don't put that in. That is
I just knew that. But yeah, that that's like I mean,
I think that's also why all the hip hop is

(19:56):
all sort of like bleeding in to the country stuff
now and is doing so well. I mean, absolutely love it.

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Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, I watch one.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
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I'm going to be completely up to date, but I
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Uh huh.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
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Well, no, that I know the one you mean, And
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you know, the guy who's going to be on the
Bachelor these names.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
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Speaker 1 (20:56):
Though, Yeah, yeah, she's She was kind of like isolated.
Time was very I think she was very shameful because
the lead girl on Mormon Wives she was doing swinging, right,
She's like soft cheating.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
What it was soft?

Speaker 1 (21:09):
I mean just keys in a bowl. Let's go like,
you're you're cheating, you're swinging whatever. She was doing some
explorative stuff, which is obviously shameful in the Mormon community
to a point, but apparently it happens a lot. Actually,
I don't know. The real Housewives of Salt Lake City
have been suggesting that it's actually happening a lot more.
I think Whitney and Bromwyn had a really big conversation
about swinging this week. But anyway, I.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Died Whitney's the one is the one we're talking about?

Speaker 1 (21:31):
No, so there's another confusing there's a Whitney on Real
Housewives of Salt Lake City and there's a Whitney on
Mormon Wives. I think is the one that.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
You're talking about. I think is her name?

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah, yeah, but she was very slut shamey. I'd say,
maybe that's a bit strong slut shamey of the lead girl.
The lead's the main central girl, and I think that
then she kind of like was pitting everyone against her.
Then it turned out that like her husband was addicted
to pawn, so like it was kind of like hypocritical
that she was being so because he was having some

(22:04):
extramarital things going on. So it was kind of like,
don't project your insecurities on another woman, and it kind
of just I think that's that was my take on it.
But she generally is just a bit insecure.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
I think I understand a bit. Then white people didn't
like her.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
I liked her just fine because I didn't know how
that show painted her. Yeah, as you know, those shows
find your need and then just totally paint you in
the character development.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
I think she was a little self righteous, and then
it turned out, like you know, the call was coming
from inside the house.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
To be self righteous though as a Mormon, Like they
can dance, like generally religion that dances the best Mormons.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Really, why is that?

Speaker 3 (22:44):
Because I think they can't have sex.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Oh, so they can they do it with like a barrier.
I think pants are the ultimate condom.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Oh my god. So you think that like ballroom dancing
is like their way of getting off.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
I don't know that that's true.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
But I did dance, and they're but all those dancers,
they're all Mormon. Most of them are Mormon guys and girls,
and so they were so good at it. Yeah, And
so I came up with that conclusion myself.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
I saw that you've I mean, if you want to.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Go about that, I'll talk about whatever you want.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
I saw that you have sent back your trophy. I
did so told me through that what's happened? You said?
They've been saying things about Yes.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
A good interviewer here, Katie. I haven't really talked about
this at length, so I'm happy. So I did the
show six or seven years ago, and I think I
was not misquoted, but I think what I said was misinterpreted.
When I said I'd never wanted to do the show.
What I had meant, hopefully in that clip, was I

(23:41):
never wanted to do the show. It wasn't I didn't
want to do the show. I just never wanted. My
desire was never to do Dancing with the Stars. Yeah,
And so I was working for the network doing a
different show, and they said, go on Dancing with the Stars.
You'll last four weeks, You'll be kicked off. You have
no experience, nobody that has no experience. And also, I was,
isn't as famous as some other people.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
I'm not. I'm not.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
I'm like regionally known in rural areas. Like there's a
difference between that and fame, and so I like that
I'm regionally That's just what. So they said, go on
the show, all things considered, like we need you back
on American Idol, so we'll see in four weeks you'll
probably get kicked off. So I'm like, great, I go
over to the show again. I don't think i'd ever
watched a full episode. I'd kept up with it as

(24:25):
far as like it was a cultural thing, so like
I would see like clips and stuff I wasn't anti
Dancing with the Stars.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
I just never watched it.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
No, you're not like you know, you're a stand Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
So it wasn't negative, wasn't positive, but I thought I'll
do it. And they paid me like one thousand or
something to do for just the intro.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
For just being on the show'd be really helpful. Right now,
I'll go out in week one.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Well, well, you have to last at least two weeks
because nobody gets kicked off week one.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Wait, you don't get anybody if you get kicked off
on No, you do.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
But you get paid. You're just on for two weeks regardless.
Nobody gets kicked off week one. It's like dancing communism.
Everybody is the same, nobody goes home. So I do
the show, and I was so fish out of water
on that show. Never had danced. I didn't know what
an eight count was because I have no And most

(25:15):
people in any sort of performance have done some sort
of training. Even if you're like a Broadway actor, You've
you've done some sort You've done a box step.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yes, and my partner at the time, I don't know
what a box step is? Now? Is that a four?

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Come on?

Speaker 1 (25:29):
You know? What a box.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
I wouldn't know what that's called.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
You've won dancing with this, you know, maybe you should
have said.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
This, Yeah, maybe they deserve to have it. I don't
know what a box.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
So my partner had been a finalist multiple times, she
had never won, and I think I know she was.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Oh so she was like hungry, she was like ready
to win.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
She deserved to have a good partner.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
And I know that when she got me, or I
feel when she got me, she was like, oh my god,
not because who I was, not because like me as
a person, I'm fine in a work hard But I
had no clue, like she was having to start from negative,
and so did the show.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
I had no idea because they don't tell you week
to week.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
There's like a federal law because of a quiz show
that you know, way back in like the maybe the sixties.
When there's money involved in the show, you can show
no favoritism to any contestant. You can't cut somebody because
you just don't want them on the show, like it
has to be done by the book. So, but they
also wouldn't tell us where we were finishing each week.
All I know is I was never in the bottom three,

(26:28):
and so the show happened, and I just kept on it,
kept living. Every week I was not in the bottom three,
I'd skate by with sevens and eights and finals come
and I win, and I'm like, holy crap. And it
was the first like non at least middle to great
dancer that won the show.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
That was me. I won by far because of fan vote.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
So we'll finish the show and every year around October,
just in whatever algorithm it is, I just get trashed
by that audience because they're like, we can't have another
Bobby Bygone sucks.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
I didn't do anything except win the freaking show.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
And so I just get for like a month because
this year it was Andy Richter who was on the show,
and they were like, if we have another Bobby.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Last year it was somebody.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
So I've now been the person that is associated with
somebody who sucks.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
But it's okay. So let me just get this super literal.
So you were a great sort of cost member personality
who could dance pretty well, worked really hard, and it's
one like the best amazing dancer ever. But you kind
of like won people over throughout the time, and then
you won and it was great. Yes, but you feel
you feel that other people feel that there were stronger

(27:38):
dances that year.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
We know there were stronger to every dancer, right, stronger, But.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
You were slow, steady and won the audience over and
it was good and you won, and there we go.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yes, but now I've been the what a bad dancer
is because I won.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, so that's you.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
There were worst dancers on my season than me, but
I won. So now it's often when someone lasts for
a long time, they compared them to me, and it's
every year, it's every dight in whatever.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
I don't care. Fine. I had surgery on my foot,
so I was.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
I was on paint pills and I love Tom bergeron
the old Host, and he was saying some things and
it was reflective of me in a negative way, and
I was like, a, feelings are hurt. So I meld
a mirrball back and I was, it's a little dramatic.
I was on paint pills, and I thought, if I'm
gonna get on say this, I should at least show it,
just not be a video.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
I'll just send the trophy back.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
And so I send the trophy back is a gesture,
like you guys don't want me to be there. Here's
a trophy. But I love my time on the show.
I loved everybody associated with the show. The network has
reached out to me and said, hey, sorry about that.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Have you heard from anyone?

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Yeah, a few days ago.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Oh, get the receipts I can read to you. Oh my,
I've not talked about it this yet.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
It's not nice to be the scapegoat for someone else's agenda.
I feel like we sometimes get a little bit of
that because we're pushing the envelope with our interviews. I
get I get a lot of heat from things like that,
so I can relate.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
And I get heat a lot for saying things. But
I'm okay with that because I said it it. Yeah,
this is I've now been the guy that represents everybody
the thing, and I rewatched all my dances for the
first time ever and did a whole series that had
nothing to do with this and actually wasn't that bad.
But I just believed that was so bad because the
Internet had told me I was so bad for so long.
This is I won't say who this is, but this
is an high executive saw your post. I'm broken hearted,

(29:21):
and I said it's okay. I'm a feeling started. I
was also on pain pills and they said, I'm not
sure why Tom did that, and I said, yeah, and
you know that sucked. He isn't even on the show anymore,
and it's so disappointing on his part. I can speak
for the show and the network.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
We all love you.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
We loved your time on the show. Clearly America loved
you as well. Don't listen to people trying to get
their ten minutes. And then there was some other network stuff,
so they reached out and they were like, hey, I
don't know, I don't know who opens that that trophy
and gets it as like, what is this in the mail?

Speaker 1 (29:53):
I like the your reactive though you like me, someone
hurts me, I'm doing something back. But interesting that you
say that, is that like they're getting their ten minutes
like when I So we're most known probably for when
I crawled across the table to Riley green Wright and
there was like ten people in the in the room,
his team in London, his team from Nashville, like some
of my producer, everything like that. So everyone everything was

(30:15):
above board. I'd interviewed him before. His managers followed like
us from day one. He liked what I did and
knew we were going to get some good personality out
of him and talk about the music. And we then
had i'd say like three or four people interview Riley
after that went out and said, you know, well known
publications and well known things in the UK, saying did

(30:39):
you feel uncomfortable when she did that? Did you feel uncomfortable?
How did you feel if a woman did that? Sorry,
if a man did that, it would be completely different.
Thank Yeah, yeah, yeah, it not obviously realized. Well, just
kind of like leading the audience. And it's such a
strange thing to do for a one interviewer to talk
about another interview right journalistically, like it feels weird, and
I just thought, like, why why are they doing that?

(31:00):
They try to get story.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Once it hits a certain amount of streams, you're now
the story. Yeah, so that's the story. I've become the story.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
A bunch of times, I just had a conversation with
somebody about something similar because they had done something that
had gone viral and they were feeling a lot of
negativity from the thing that went viral.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
But what had gone viral was not negative at all.
But what I had.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Described to this person was imagine you're standing on the floor,
but you're standing on a pedestal that's on the floor.
It's not lifted yet, and there are twenty people that
can see you because you're ground level, and there may
be three of them that think you're an idiot, for
others twenty. Now it's not that loud when three people
are telling you you're an idiot, when you have seventeen
that are being quiet or enjoying you. Now imagine the
pedestal goes up ten feet. Well, now like one hundred

(31:44):
people can see you, and now you've got fourteen to
fifteen people that are saying you're an idiot. Well, that
feels a little louder. Even though the percentage of people
that don't like you is not anymore, it does seem
a bit louder. Now imagine you boost that thing up
times ten and you've got a million people. Well, you're
gonna have one hundred people that think you're an idiot,
and they're going to come at you, and you're going
to feel like I'm very hated, and actually you're not.

(32:05):
You have ninety nine thousand people that love you, but
they don't.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Really speak they just push the heart button.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah, and so you're not actually getting more disliked because
you're getting more famous. You just have that same percentage
of idiots that grows because the same the percentage of
people are growing.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
So that's what happened to you. You became the story.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, I feel like I needed that. You just became
my therapist. It's been really weird because I thought I'm
quite thick skinned, like I'm not like you know, nineteen.
I thought like I've worked in sort of different industries
and I was like, I'm going to be fine with
this sort of trolling and the backlash and stuff like that.
But it hurts and it's not something I expected when
you are trying to be comedic or like trying to
like entertain people that they can come for you in

(32:48):
that way. And I think because we are British, humor
meets you know, Nashville Guy is a lot of what
we do. It It provokes people in different ways and
I'm happy with that because it means we're doing something right,
like we're entertaining. We're a different interview. There's definitely space
for a legendary interview, but there's space for this new
kind of interview that is something else and you know

(33:11):
that's been proved with as I say, chicken Shop, call
her Daddy. Like there is different ways of doing things
and there's an audience for it, and it's great because
it brings out the personality of the artists in a
completely different way. But it's there's there's some things I've
I've figured like from doing this, like we've only been
doing it like eighteen months, like we're still baby, but

(33:32):
like lots of things look different than what I thought
they would look from where we're at now. Lots of
things look better that I didn't expect would look better,
and lots of things are like they're like painful as
like you know, as an individual and also as it
being like my heart and soul, my baby that I've created.
Like so I think also something that's really like struck
me as like how many people when they see you

(33:53):
doing something good on a bigger platform or go and
try and take it and do it themselves and they
can't quite do it because they don't have that magical
that like sort of like you know, they try and
replicate something that you're about. I find that like bonkers
to me. I never thought that would happen, that people
would see something good and go Okay, I'm gonna like
in a bigger way. Like that's like and also being
on camera every week, do you find it like exhausting

(34:14):
to be just filmed all the time? Because I thought,
I'm you know, I've got a few narcissistic qualities. I'll
be absolutely fine with it, but I find it really
quite draining.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
I find I don't get as tired of it because
I don't watch it back.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Editing.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
So yeah, you're yeah, well you'll get rich like me,
and you don't have to do your own editing because
one day I used to have to my own editing
one day.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Yeah, Like, I don't watch it.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
I don't look you don't just don't look at it.
That's a great way of thinking about Yeah, I'm like,
I'm constantly watching it back being like, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Oh I could see where you can easily pick yourself
apart if you're editing.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Yeah, oh god.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
I Also it's like you you almost have to lose
the vanity part of it, especially with anything that's comedic.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
I was also really worried about this today because obviously
we're filming this on CMA day. Right, So I've got
my hair done. We just had Tuckle wet More got
a blow dry. Lovely, how kind of him, Tucker wet More,
he got a blow dry ready for he got some blowy.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
I wonder if we're a blow dryer.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
I wonder if hen I can return the favor one day.
Oh going to use that gug later to him. So
but yeah, you know he he yes, a blow dry,
blow out, blowy then or you guys did it? No,
he didn't. He wasn't blow drying my hair.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Out, but he paid for Did he pay for you
to go and get it done?

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yes, well his PR team did. But yes, he's doing
that today. Yes, so yes, so because it's the blonde
and the brunettes finding it Ali Brunette. So you know,
I got my hair blow dried up. But then I
was like, I don't want to look like like I
come on here like a drag queen looking crazy for
your thing. But then I've also got to go and
sit on like I'm going on the red cover with
a Union Jack Mini spice girl dress. I got to

(35:50):
stand out there.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
So that's that's what I think of Ginger Spice.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
That's the I'm doing Ginger Spice.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
I just watched a TikTok of is it terrible? I
didn't like it.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
For the record, I didn't push like, but I was
entertained and it was like this dude was ranking all
the Spice girls how hot they are?

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Now terrible, that is terrible. I watch it.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
I still watch it.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah, yeah, I watched it all. But we would probably.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Sit here and do it. But we don't pit women
against each other.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
But they never showed Ginger. They were like, she's number one,
but they never showed her.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
See I was talking to I was talking to cassieashing
about this the other day. Right when we were younger,
I think all the girls wanted to be Baby Spice,
and when we're older, we're like, no, Ginger Spice was it?
Like Ginger was cool, mouthy, sexy, hot, and we all
just wanted to be Baby Spice.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
Baby Spice is still kind of killing.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
It though, right Radio Center on, Yeah, Emma Bunton, Yeah, yeah,
she is killing it.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Do people like Victoria? Is she well liked or she
just famous?

Speaker 1 (36:45):
She is a national treasure, an icon. I think people
fall in and out of love with the Beckhams all
the time. I think that they're so famous that they
can't be human. No, I think she actually humulizes that.
She's actually very, very funny, So I think she humanized herself. Well,
I think that they are like British Royalty in their
own way. You know that they're amazing, but like you know,

(37:08):
I think she's amazing. I hear things about him that
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Have you seen him in a person?

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yes? Is he strikingly good looking? I think he's had
too much filler? Yeah, sorry, David, I.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Know I can see it because I think that's general,
Like Jen Pop in performance, everybody wants to keep up
and so they can look right on camera and they look.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Well, you've seen like Bradley Cooper.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Haven't I seen him a person?

Speaker 1 (37:33):
He's it's well, he had a chin job very early
on the day. If you go back and watch Sex
and City, you know he's in Sexton City. He has
an episode with Sarah Jaxa Parker where he's like playing
some young guy that she's like running around with the
clubs with, and his chin is so different to when
you see him in like The Hangover, like ten years later.
He had a chin job early in the game. But
now he's gone too far with the filler.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Have you seen him a person in real life? No,
but I just have seen the contrast of him.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
I've seen pictures recently. Actually know I have seen him
a person. Once in the very in Chiltern Firehouse, very
it up, dimly lit.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
I was like, oh my god, that's a restaurant.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Yeah, it's like kind of like a soher house. He
kind of very like you always see celebrities. Now, I
don't know what the hell I was doing there. I
was probably lost, but I yeah, I saw him.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
And people think you're famous. Now do you get that
at all?

Speaker 1 (38:14):
I think if I answer this question, everyone will rinse
me back. You're like, that's absolutely fine. No, I would say,
I can't even look at you straight. My best friend
of who I created the podcast with, is here in
the room with me, and I can't even answer this
question looking at her. I think in the country scene
we're very well known. In any other scene, I'm an

(38:36):
absolute nobody, but the country scene is is poppin', and so.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Its fractional fame in general. I think, now, no, it's
hard to be ubiquitous. Yeah, it's hard to be just famous.
But you can own an area.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
That's the craziest thing is that, like I've when we've
come here, I haven't come back since the like since
the podcast has been like a thing thing, and we've
come back. I got recognized on the plane. I've got
recognized like so many people places here. I'm more famous
here than I am in the UK. And I'm like,
what the hell is that? Because a half of our
audience is Nashville. Because I think that you guys want
to see a British girl interviewing these stars in a

(39:14):
completely different way. I think that's kind of like an
interesting like what. I think it was harder when we
started because when we started the podcast, it was me
and Ozzie, who's in the room today. We kind of
like sat on the sofa just shooting the shit. And
I think that was less interesting to an American audience
because they don't want to hear two British girls talk
about country music so much because you're like, you don't
know what you're talking about, Like you don't live here,
you don't breathe it. But I think as I've now

(39:36):
got more guest focused, I think that's interested. It piqued
the interest of the American audience a lot more because
they want to see that sort of like very strange
interview they've never seen before. But do you know how
the podcast started? Why it started?

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Of course I do, but tell everybody else how it started.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
So basically I was getting married as engaged to a lovely,
lovely guy. Still love him very dearly. But we live
in a sort of farming community community called Devon. It's
beautiful if you ever get the chance to go, go
and I we were getting married in the June and
I went on my hendu, which is a bachelorette which
someone thought I was saying Hindu. Yeah, someone thought I

(40:12):
was saying Hindu yesterday, like the religion.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
And that's what I would have thought too, Like didn't.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Really say hendukh like gnd o.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Yeah, there's two words hen do, got it? Yeah? So
I was like, I want to go to Nashville, like
I love country music. Great, let's go up before fantastic.
So I come here. I do it all. I do
the buses down Broadway. We are the.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Right, Like if you did it right?

Speaker 1 (40:39):
No, but you know I can tell you something, you
know that guy in I don't know if this was
all a lie. Sometimes I think, was it all like
you know that guy who's in Star is Born, who's
that's called Sam? No? Sam?

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Sam Elliott?

Speaker 1 (40:54):
Yeah, there you go. Sam Elliott's love child that he
apparently doesn't acknowledge that he he had is a dude.
And he was like chatting me up and like being all.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Like that, and so I was like, pie, no chance.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Do you think that's no chance? You think I've been done? Yeah?
Have I been had?

Speaker 3 (41:11):
No chance?

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Yeah, there's no chance. Anyway, that's funny.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Anyway he was. He was flown away with me. There
was a few crazy things going on, but generally nothing,
nothing untoward happened. I went home and everyone was like
who do you have sex with? Who do you have
sex with? What happened? But nothing happened. I just came
here and I realized, oh my god, I have something
else to do in my life, and I don't think
I can do it in a tiny farming town in Devon.
And its suddenly lots of other things just like came

(41:37):
to my realization that I was like, I'm gonna call
this wedding off. So I went home. What Yeah, Nashville
broke me. So I went home, called off the wedding.
It was heartbreaking, and then I I was in a flummox,
as you would be right, and I was like, I've
got to have something positive and I've got to work
in country music in some way if I if I'm
gonna do this, I've got to make it work. And

(41:59):
so I just went to my friend Ozzie, who we've
always talked about country music and like girl group chats.
I said, look, I think there's a gap. We don't
seem to We have a lot of like legendary media
talking to us in a very normal way. There's not
many female presenters, Like why don't we just start country
music podcasts and see what happens. And I think Ozzie
looked at me and was just like, I'm just gonna

(42:19):
entertain this because she's obviously going through something. I will
sit and talk with her, and this is gonna go nowhere.
We might get the old free gig ticket. Like that
was it. And I have just ever since really been
like a dog with a bone. It's been a passion project.
It's been a project out of heartbreak and it just
started working and we just got an amazing response straight
away with the guests. We started to be able to

(42:40):
go and see get the response from the girls in
the UK who were like finally a voice for women
in the UK, and it's just gone absolutely nuts and
here we are and I'm blown up behind you. It's
just it's absolutely bananas. But it just shows I think
that if you I mean, I'm thirty five, I'm not
a young spring chicken. Like the fact that I'm known
as kind of like the crazy new hot young moment

(43:03):
just call myself hof the crazy like new thing, young
thing and I'm thirty five shows you how old the
market was really in the UK, even like five years
ago for country music. Like I'm kind of known as
like crazy young thing and it's like that should you know,
most other places that would have Persson would have to
be like twenty.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
One or something.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
So the fact that like you can do something at
I was, you know, thirty three, about to be engaged,
living in the country, was going to have kids next year,
and I went, no, and you can do it and
it can happen. I just say to everyone, like, if
you've got that passion project or you've got something you
see in my gap in the market for just go
for it. Just go for it. It might flop. Who cares?

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Are you making money? Now?

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Yeah, we've we've started, We've got like an agent. Things
are happening. But we definitely think that Like the sweet
spot for our podcast is actually brands in America who
want to break the UK market. Like that's the sweet
spot for people reaching the right audience for us. Like
there's brands in the UK who do great things and

(43:59):
like you know, we work with the Yetty a lot.
We're working with Dolly Wines like things like that. But
I think any brand that wants to break the UK
market that has a kind of Western feel to it,
or even just as like an American like you know
when high Noon Henun just launched in the UK like
last year, Like you know, Russell has the song with
the Hei Noon in the line everyone like who's a
country family? Like, oh I have a Hi Noon now,

(44:20):
Like that's the perfect sort of thing for how we
hit both markets.

Speaker 5 (44:25):
The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the
Bobby Cast.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
Who's your favorite all time country artists?

Speaker 1 (44:43):
I'm very excited if I get to talk to Kelsey
Ballerini tonight, Like I really like the fact that she's
opened up the conversation for women about the questioning of
whether you know she should be having kids right now
or whether she should focus on her career. Very coded
to what I just explained about me calling off my
life and doing this. Like. I love the conversations that
she opens. I mean, she's probably one of my favorites

(45:04):
to listen to. We were listening to Subject to Change
this morning when we were trying to get out of
our Broadway hangover, being like, you know, I'm up, I'm down.
I'm subject to change. You know, if you're going down,
I'm going down too. We also said that to each
other today when we looked at each other, going girl,
if this goes badly today on the carpet, if you
go down, I'm going down to. So I do love
Kelsey to interview, though I'm trying to think who I

(45:24):
would love to interview, who I haven't interviewed already. I
really like that Morgan Wallen does lean into the dry
humor interviews, like he's done that stuff with like THEO
and stuff like that. I do like that. I really
want to get Bailey Zimmerman. I think me and Bailey
Zimmerman in a room could be crazy. There could be backflips.
We could swing in on ropes, you know, we'd just

(45:47):
drive off into the distance in one of his massive
four by fours.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
He just buy a Lamborghini.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Yeah, I saw that, Josh Ross. You did Josh Ross
the other day and Josh Ross told me that he
would Bailey would pick a car over a girl anytime.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Oh yeah, Bailey is like my favorite person really person
like like people. Yes really, Yeah, we just grew up
very similar and so like I kind of get it,
and so yeah, I love Bailey. If Bailey went to jail,
hopefully he would call me, like it's one of those

(46:20):
where I'll be like, I'll come get you and we'll
fix it.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
He wouldn't be calling me, he'd be sat next to
me in the cell.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Yeah, you'll like Bailey alive. That's probably you guys together by.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
Too much though, Like someone someone would be in jail,
someone would die.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
It'd be a lot because he has that energy all
the time. Yeah, he's a great, great, great kid. Yeah,
just I have what I just beat into him is
do not getting very pregnant?

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Yes, do not?

Speaker 2 (46:49):
I will especially Katie did not get Katie pregnant, So hey,
what's up now?

Speaker 1 (46:54):
That would be such a good storyline for the podcast. Though,
come on, Bailey, get me pregnant.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
So you and this this Sam Elliot guy, you didn't
do anything.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
No, no, I think he was like married or something. Nothing.
He was just blurting away, being annoying, being silly.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
And n his his line to come on to you
as Sam Elliot's love child and he doesn't know about it. Yes,
And I was like, oh my, do you think actually
Sam Elliott's love child use that as a line?

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Does some aliet I have a love child?

Speaker 3 (47:20):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
I don't know, not one, he acknowledges anyway. But no, yeah, yeah,
he used that as a line one hundred percent. But
I like you. You see a girl, a British girl
in a veil in Nashville. It was crazy, you know,
you get a lot. Yeah, it was crazy, But it
wasn't about that. It was honestly, hand on hert. It
wasn't about that. It was about me going. You just know,

(47:42):
it's a gut feel and it's funny when you do
a project. I'm sure you know this all the time,
Like when you do something that doesn't fit and doesn't
feel right or doesn't it doesn't work it just doesn't work.
When something works, all the doors start going yes because
you're on the right path, Like something in the universe
was telling me you got to do this, And since
we started it, it's just gone yes, yes, yeah, yes,
yes yes. I mean we were at the backstage of

(48:02):
the opera last night and I was just crying if
we were taking intens to cry, like it's just like
it can't we can't believe we've got to where we've
got to. It just feels like magic's in the air
for this podcast and this time and country booming and
just yeah, everything it's nice, Like Carrie love Carrie. Yeah,
we'd love to interview Carrie. She apparently she's a hoot.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
I think Carrie gets a raw deal on the internet
because she's very shy until she's on a microphone and
then she's great. Yeah, but you know you'll see things
like Carrie was at the mall and she wasn't nice.
I've never known Carrie to not be nice, but I
have known Carrie to be extremely introverted. And I think
I'm extremely introverted. Like when I'm not on, I'm not on,

(48:46):
and there are people be like, man, what a dick
and that's not the case. I feel like nobody really
wants me to talk, so I don't talk.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
I think Carrie is the victim of that sometimes where
people will say, well I saw her.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
And she was not super nice anxiety she is, She's awesome. Yeah, yeah, so's.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
It's so tiring to be like from the small, small
bit of like people knowing who we are in the
UK when I go to a gig, it's not like
I go to a gig and I sit down and
enjoy it. And I sometimes think to myself, I ruined
every country gig in the UK for the rest of
my life because I can't just go. If someone says, hey,
oh my god, girls are the places, I am like, hi,
how are you?

Speaker 5 (49:22):
Like?

Speaker 1 (49:22):
I really want to be lovely to everyone because of
that fear, and it means that you can really run
your energy into a ground. Especially I feel like because
we lead with chaos optically because that's what we want
to do.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
People probably expect it from you all the time.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Yes, but also it means that like we were like,
you know, we can't get nuber. Today it was a
little bit difficult because it's SMA Day and we're like
ten minutes late, and I'm thinking, oh, God, like I
don't want to look like because we promote chaos. I
always want to be on time early, like ready to
go super professional, because like half our brand is chaos.
But I also want to be that person who's respectful
and time. So it means that like, I can run

(49:58):
myself into the ground of losing energy around an event
even before I've even interviewed anyone like, and I find
that's really tiring because as a people pleaser, and you
just want to, yeah, especially in the start something, you
want to like everyone to like you. And I think
I need to maybe just be a little bit because
I can get really tired before I'm even going to

(50:20):
go on that carpet tonight, because I just want everyone
to be like they're doing something good and then they're
respectful and nice and and I'm sure that happens with
I can't imagine the fame on that level of Carrie,
of how much anxiety that would feel feed into and then.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
You'd well, then you just don't go out.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Right or she'd like be super the anxiety blars up
more of people saying I'm mean to everyone, God, how
am I acting? What am I doing. If I'm looking
mean now, if I've got a mean, resting bitch face,
like what's going on? You would just spin in your
own head. It must be awful.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Yeah yeah, yeah, But I mean it's the house that
she built. I think she handles it well. But she
if you do read those stories, I find them and
be wholly inaccurate about her. I think she's great, and
it's not like her and I have this crazy close relationship,
but we have spent a little time together outside of
just this type of environment.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
But there's some really great people.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
When I moved here, I thought, I don't want to
be friends with anybody because I want to not have
biased when talking about situation.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
I really avoided that.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Oh so you don't friends that you don't make friends
with these.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
I do now because they're just great people. There's some
great people.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
But forever I my goal was to make no friends
so I could talk bad about people and it.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Wasn't just talk bad.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
But I didn't want to not I didn't want to
like pull punches. Do you have that the other phrase
pull punches?

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Pull punches?

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
I didn't want to like not go at something that
I wanted to go at. Because I had a personal
relationship with you. But then there were people that I
would meet and I would go, oh, they're just awesome.
Why am I keeping myself from that relationship?

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (51:46):
One of my best friends is Brett Eldridge, Like he's like,
you know, my guy, Derek's Bentley excellent.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Like, there's some really great people.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
So when I led this one was like, there's some
terrible people there are, but there are also some really
one or for people here, it's it's it's a little
bizarre though, because you never know, especially here with a
new art or just people in the industry. With me,
I never know what they want from me. Oh okay,
like do they want to be on the podcast? Do
they want to be on the radio show? Do they
want me to you know?

Speaker 1 (52:13):
So there's always do you want to like sort of
like tread I.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Don't tread it all. There's a there's a big barrier.
Yeah no no no new friends, Yeah no new friends?

Speaker 1 (52:23):
No not really.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
I'm good now, Yeah, I'm full up.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
I feel like I just don't want to be that
girl who's like hanging on or like that like that
like you know that greepeak and tell.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Us that you get to enjoy it with excitement because
you're not here. That's cool.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Yeah I'm a baby, But that's super.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Fun that you get to like just enjoy it for
what it's supposed to be, awesome entertainment.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
That's what I love most about. Like, ultimately, I'm a
fan girl, like and we get to do that with
our podcast, Like we get to do the cool, fun
media interview, but we also get to do it from
the pov of like we're just I'm just a man
girl who's like excited to be here, and we get
to like play both sides of that coin, which I
think is what podcasting does so interestingly like and is
why it's you know, it feels relatable in a way

(53:03):
that the traditional interview or traditional radio maybe didn't feel,
or it did to a certain point, but the podcasting
opens something completely different.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
A long form allows much more Intimacyeah, yes, that's super cool.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Yeah, how long do you guys? How long are you here?

Speaker 1 (53:19):
I haven't actually booked my flight home yet.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Oh so you're staying you're looking for Sam Elliott's love
child again, You're you're here to you're on the search?

Speaker 1 (53:28):
I yeah, I mean I look, I would love to
would you move here. It's interesting that one, because I
obviously everyone's dream in the UK who's a country founder
is to move to Nashville. Like that's like a pipe
dream for everyone. I don't know if this market would
like I think it's I found it quite intense. I'm
such a fan that like to be doing some of

(53:50):
the things are doing is crazy and I don't know
if I would lose my marbles living here. I quite
like the groundedness of the British market because they, you know,
they slapped me back down and say get back to reality,
you with some dry humor whatever. It is, like, it's
kind of it's kind of the charm and I think,
like we've got such a good thing going on in
the UK. But I think I might be swallowed whole
here and they'll be like, oh, just another.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
I don't think you should move here. I think you
have more value not here.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Interesting.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
I think you give far more value night here.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
What's interesting about you is that you're not here, and
that you don't sound like people from here, and you
didn't grow up like people that are here. Yeah, I
think that's that's why I was interested. I was watching
you guys club. I just DM do you And I
was like, hey, you guys are doing a great job. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
I normally nearly fainted when that happened.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Okay, you've said that like three times you walk in
like I knew? Is that your Is that your your stick?
Like you're always about to die or pee or faint
or something pee well whatever, it's always like something like
I'm about to cry, I'm about to pee or what
I mean.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
I'm just like it's just overwhelming, like it's not my thing.
I'm not like kidding guys, I'm about to be all
the time. I just it's just I can't believe it.
I can't believe I'm sat here. I've gone into a
different part of my brain to be able to cope
and sit here and actually make full sentences. This feels
like I'm in a fever dream and I need to
wake up. But I'm not waking up, and it's getting work.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
I think that's the value. And I think if you
moved here, you wouldn't have that anything.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Yeah, I would get maybe a bit more like you,
as in like I would see how the sausage is made.
I don't want to see how the sausage made. Keep
the sausages away hate everybody.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
That's that's me. You just hate everybody like you hate
everybody to start, and then they have to like earn.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Like, oh so you like you? You hate everyone, and
then if they shock you, you're like okay.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Entertainment wise, Oh okay, Yeah, it's like he's your favorite artist.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
What capacity just generally listen to musically?

Speaker 2 (55:29):
If I did, I'll just do my Mount Rushmore, John Mayer,
Casey Musgraves, Oh yeah, County Crows.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Oh okay, what's Casey like? I'd love to I'd love
to speak to Casey.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
She won't let me interview her.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Oh well, she won't let me interview her either, So
that's like two of us.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
I love Casey.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
So Casey and I got into a huge fight when
I first moved here. Yeah, and it was on me
at this point.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
What did you do?

Speaker 3 (55:58):
No, I was a bull in the china shop.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Well I did hear you put up posters saying bigger?

Speaker 3 (56:06):
What did you do about billboards?

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Yeah, like street get Bobby out of Nashville most.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Maybe the British interpretation is that, but no, it was
a go away Bobby bones so good.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Yeah, I was, I was.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
I moved here, and there's two types of there's two
types of actual country people. There's cowboys, there's trailer trailer park,
and I was trailer park. There's like right, there's like
there's like redneck white trash, and there's cowboy. The problem
that I ran into when I moved here was I
was so unapologetic, not a cowboy, and I wasn't gonna

(56:39):
fake being a cowboy.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
You're not cosplaying none. You weren't doing the escapism that
the UK is when we all turn up in cowboy
House of the Gigs.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
And I was being told by.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Like consultants or the industry, like you're not one of us, yeah,
And my tendency is okay, I'm really not one of
you then, And so I was out of control. I
was a I had knives out. I was attacking anything
that I felt at all was coming at me. It
was a really difficult three or four years.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
Anyway. You threatened Casey Malsgrave with a knife.

Speaker 5 (57:08):
Not.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
Literally.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
We had a moment during the CMA interviews when I
used to do those, and now I understand Casey's just quiet.
It's like the carry thing, yeah, And I took it
as one thing, like oh, she's not being very nice.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Uh huh.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
It absolutely wasn't that. It was her personality. Met my
knives out, yep, yep. And I just went on the
air and was just like I would with ten other people,
just eviscerate people and would be like this sucks. I've
since said I was completely the wrong and sorry, and
I've even seen her and was like, hey, I'm really
sorry about that, and she was like, oh man, we're
all good.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
We're all good. But she doesn't do a lot of
interviews anyway, so I don't think like she's avoiding me.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
No, she's just kind of like doesn't know. I don't
want to say, doesn't need to. But there are some
stars who like are just focusing on the music what
they want to do, and they don't want to do
the press, and that's and.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
It makes them cooler by not doing anything if you
can commit tone doing anything. Yes, So Casey's Casey's my favorite,
like love Casey, So she's my and then probably someone
like a do W ben Folds is ben Folds. I
just like instruments, and I think that's why I like
country music. Yes, I like acoustic guitars and pianos.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Right, Yes, it's simplicity.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Very much so.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
And so.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
But I grew up in a very rural Arkansas town
trailer park type situation, moved here and I was playing
some hip hop on the country you know, of the
country station.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
I was just still myself.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
I never changed, and it wasn't met warmly by this
by this area because I just wasn't part of the system.
And then when they told me I wasn't part of
the system and I wasn't going to survive, that's when
I really got angry with the system and it's revisions history.
I showed up and everything was great. Now, everything's great, yeah,
but it definitely wasn't for a long time. And so

(58:55):
I bought billboards in the city that had no attachment
to me said go away, Bobby Bones for the simple
reason of I wanted people to either go who is
Bobby Bones?

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Or why are they picking on Bobby Bones? Or I
agree those three reasons.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Yeah, never said anything about it, And then until I
wrote my first book, nobody knew for years.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Yes, now it is.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
It was risky, risky at the time, expensive at the time,
I bet, yeah, it's before I was rich.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
I mean, I did walk into this house today and
I nearly fainted.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
I make that you nearly ped as you fainted, Yes,
nearly pool. Oh how many cmas have you been to?

Speaker 3 (59:35):
How many awards?

Speaker 1 (59:37):
How many CMA awards have I been to? Zero? Oh?
This first one, this is the first one I know,
was awesome.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
First one was awesome, second and third one. It gets
the TV.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
The commercials suck at a live event, know, it's awesome.
Number one is it's always so much fun because the
performances are cool.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
It's just like a television taping.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
They're just slow and clunky in real life because of
how they have to be presented on television.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Yeah, I have had that. I'm a little bit worried
about l So I bumped into Kelly Sutton last night
and she was amazing soup. I mean she's doing it?

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Is she with the Oprey?

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Yeah? Yes she was. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Yeah, is that what you're talking about you saw at
the Opry?

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Yes? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
And then but then half the words you say, I'm
just kind of guessing what they are. I'm gonna be honest,
because I don't know sometimes and I'm just like, well,
based on the six words I understood, I think this
is what she meant.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Then I just go.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
So if you've noticed at times I've been a bit disconnect,
like maybe I haven't responded to exactly what you said,
it's a little bit of me just taking most.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Of it and guessing we're gonna have to have some
sort of like translation to feel like some sort of
like Yeah, I love Kelly too. Absolutely. She's been a
really big champion of our podcasts and like what we're
doing for the female listenership, so like I huddle, but
she gave me some interesting tips, that interesting information that
no one else had given us, by the way, which
I think I was like, oh, interesting that no one

(01:00:49):
else gave us that information. But Kelly is a she's
a real one. She gave us the information that the
red cop is like an L and like you have
some people that will walk here, so let's say Combs
or someone who's huge, right, they'll walk here, and then
they'll just keep walking into the venue, and then there'll
still be loads of like, let more junior press on
the other side of the L, so like they will

(01:01:09):
only do like you know, the top big broader and
then they'll go so little old me who will be
probably by the toilets or you know, somewhere by the
bins over here because we're.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Buried in the toilet. In the toilet, well, we.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Needed to pet the whole. So I'll be there and
I'm probably going to get not the people that maybe
I was hoping for when we first but you know,
you never know. If I'm in that Union actress, they
might have put me next to CNN. I don't know.
We're just gonna see it, wing it and just try
and you know, get people's attention the whole time. I'm

(01:01:41):
wearing a big coat.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
I'm not going to be like this, Yeah in America,
that's breasts. I don't know what you were doing, but
look like you were flashing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Well I flashed Tucker wet More and I'm quite famous
for that. But that's that was when I came for
the CMA. First story was if you haven't listened to
the episode, Tucker wasn't huge yet. He was kind of
like just on the up, but I'd seen him and
I knew that a he was super hot, but also
that like the song was amazing. Whenn't Missing You was
just climbing coming out and I was in a box
next to him at the CMAO was and I noticed

(01:02:11):
I just got tickets through like someone had just said, hey, great,
come here, my produced videographer in Nashville. He was like,
this is through my work, Like behave Katie. And we
were like on like day four or five of a bender,
like I was drinking just to stay alive. So we
were there in this box. I see Tucker wet More
is like on the other side of this cars and
I go, oh my god, this's Tuck. I went why

(01:02:32):
I love him? And I went like this, I went hearthands,
love you, Tucker, and he went back, you went love
you Tucker. But then I was pissed, as in I
was drunk, so I was like love I sort of
just like emulated a flash. I was like yeah, And
then he turned around and he mooned me, like to
pull his trousers down and was like whoa. And I
was like, oh my god, what a perfect moment. And
my other cool Nashville friends were like, this is a

(01:02:54):
work invite, Katie. This is outrageous. You can't do this.
So I was like, oh my god, Okay, right, I'll
sit down. But anyway, six months past, Tucker comes over
to c TOC Festival, which is a huge country music
festival in the O two in London, and I was thinking,
there's no way we have like a crazy interview with
him anyway. But then there's no way that this guy's
gonna remember this moment, especially now that he's got really
quite big and I was going, I just suddenly stopped

(01:03:14):
in the interview and the Tucker, you know, we've actually
met before. I was at the CMA. It was a
CMA fest. I was in the box and he literally
just turns and this interview and goes, you flashed me,
that was you, like, and he was. I had turned
to my buddy and I couldn't believe it. I said,
that girl just flashed me, Like, so we now have
like this whole thing, this whole backstory of like me
flashing him. So I've got a big coat on tonight

(01:03:35):
and I'm gonna hold it together. And then when he
walks over, I'm gonna go like that, and I'm obviously
gonna have a dress on underneath. Don't wry g but like,
you know, just you keep the gag going. That's I
like that about the podcasting and being a personality within
it and not being just like a media outlet, like
you get to continue the storyline, like with Riley Green tonight,
He's probably gonna see me and want to run the
other direction, which is great. It's all for the storyline.
And if I don't get Riley because he's not walking

(01:03:56):
down the right le of the.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
Are you for sure you're at the back? Do you know?

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
I'm just I'm just guessing. I don't know. We've been
invited by the international side of the CMA, so they
want us to cover this. I hope otherwise you're right.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
Though they do put they do layers.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
There's always going to be a hierarchy, and I realize
we are at.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
The don't I don't think that's true, but because I
do think it's interesting that you guys are here, and
I think they'll want to have that exposure.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
I think if I were to give you advice, you
didn't ask for it, So I'm for sure gonna give it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
No, give it to me.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
I'm a spunge because I've done both right. I've worked
it and walked it, worked it. As the person that
was working it, I always felt like the artist was
always looking around because they had to go to something else,
and they never knew how long I was going to
hold them.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Okay, So, so do I tell them at the beginning,
like I'm going to ask you three questions, that's exactly
what you do.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Yeah, it doesn't have to be so, but you need
to let them know what what your expectation is from
them because they are limited and they're bouncing place to place.
SA when I because I would always go to the
back of the yl what do you call it the
yel because I would do the few and then I
would go, yeah, when I'm at when if I was
promoting something or like at the ACMs, I'm part of

(01:05:11):
that broadcast, so I'll go walk the carpet, and I
would always spend extra time at the back. And so
what's easiest is when they kind of let me know
the expectation, because then I can give them full everything
and not have to worry they're going to keep me
for longer than So that would be the only tip
that I would give you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Okay, So I'm gonna go, We're gonna do three questions,
and I want to shore a little dnswer and.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Then they won't be looking around like to see if
they're missing anything or or if they're going extra long.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor,
and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Okay, I have like two other questions. You know who
I like mister Bean? Oh my god, No, no, no, no, no,
you need no, no, don't like him anymore?

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
No, you love him. I have to tell you, I
look like mister Bean, and I think he's related to me.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Are you his illegitimate love child?

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
That's what I use when I go to the bars.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
That's how I get Mommy, you don't look like Rowanak.
You don't look like I.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Look so much like Ronak. And I'm gonna pull up
a picture of me dressed as mister Bean, and you're
gonna be like Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
We're gonna put a split up in this clip. This
is her picture looking at the camera place, and here's
mister Bean.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
You beat the judge. Oh you're doing that. You came
to the face. You came to the face the impression,
you came to the impressions.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
That's fair. The reason why I think I'm related to
him is actually quite legit. Because my name is Katie Atkin.
His name is Rowan Atkinson. Now back in the day kin,
yeah at Kin, it means son of Adam Kin of Adam.
So if there was a slur not slap, if there
was a mistake in a census or something back in
the day, and they did Atkinson because they're doing son

(01:06:53):
of Adam Kin of Adam. So Rowan Atkinson and Katie
Atkin could be related to each other. But there just
like some sort of slip up and then it was
you know, it just then went on. So is this
a joke or do you honestly think there could be
so from I genuinely think there could be some connection
because my dad looks a bit mister Beanie. My granddad
looks mister Beanie. I'm not mister Bean's love child that

(01:07:16):
I know of. Well, I like him, yeah, I love him,
love love love. No, God, I don't think. I don't know.
The world might end if we're in the same room.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
Okay. Final thing, the difference between the UK and England.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
Go, England is a country. We then have Scotland is
another country. God, I'm not a geography girl. Northern Ireland
is another country, and that is and Wales and Whales
is another country. That is the UK but not Ireland,
and then we have Ireland. No, So this is some

(01:07:51):
history here that I'm linked to. My mum is Northern Irish. Okay,
so she was in she lived, grew up in the
troubles in Ireland and Northern Ireland, and so it's Catholics
and Protestants. There was a lot of terrorism, awful things
that happened in like the eighties. They there's you know,
not as much contention now they're separate. Northerne is part
of the UK. Island is Island, Yeah so yeah, United

(01:08:16):
Kingdom is are United Kingdoms and then ilands separate. So
if you go to when I go to Island, I
actually find it feels a lot like Boston. It feels
a bit American more so than normal.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
I went to Ireland.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
Yeah, what did you like it? I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
It's a terrible, terrible decision for me because I was
finishing a book and I really needed to get time
zoned away so I wouldn't be on the same time
zone with here, so like emails would come.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
So I wanted to go somewhere and it was like
the closest far place.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Oh yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
So I got on a plane and I flew to Dublin.
Never been there. I don't drink and I'm by myself
in Dublin. There was nothing else to do.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Yeah, a lot of Guinness.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Everything is drink, drink, drink. Yeah yeah, so there was
not Yeah for me, Yeah I did.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
I wrote.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
I got on a tour bus, one of those double deckers,
and I went to a castle and it wasn't even castle.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
It was like a small village house. Yeah, you were
at a pointy top. If you go to Northern Ireland
with me, I could show you a lot of amazing
places like giants causeways, beautiful walks. Island has so much
to offer.

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
I wanted to see Game of Thrones, yeah, and I
it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
A giants causeway. It's kind of like Game of Thrones vibes.
I think, like, you know, any any city like Dublin's quiet.
You know, it's a touristy city. It's kind of like
coming to Nashville.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
And not oh very much. So it felt.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Yeah, it's beautiful places. But if you knew someone who
was from Dublin, they could probably take you so a place.
But as it's difficult when you come as an English
person and you go to Times Square. You know, it's
like my friends in New York were like, what the
hell are you doing? But you do it. You go
and see that, you know, do you the ferry? You
do all that stuff and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
I basically went to the Statue of Liberty in Dublin
and went back to my room.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
Yes, exactly, that's what you did.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
Congratulations on everything. It's it's so good to meet you too.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
No, I'm honestly thrilled super Bowl. I hope you guys continue.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
Just I don't move here, okay, Like, can you want
to keep an ocean between us, Bobby?

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Yes, come if you you should come, though, you should, like, yeah, professionally,
make two times a year or so to come, because
I think you're going to gather so much.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
But if you come here, I think it loses the
value of.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
Yes, I agree, it's quite nice to do like a
disruptive interview here, like as in like I could out
of the blue, because obviously we know who's coming to
the UK, so then people be like, oh, when Ashley
McBride comes, girls and their places are probably going to
do her, so they can kind of expect what guess
we're going to have. It'd be quit nice to be
able to come here every like two three months and
then like just do someone that they're like, what the
hell they got that person? I would never expect that,

(01:10:32):
so that I would really love to do that and like, yeah,
we we love it here. I'm never gonna not love
it here. But I think I would be mad if
I lived here. And I respect you think that though,
but then you just get tired.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
Then it's just like or I.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
Might be like more, i'd be less of a fine girl,
as you say, a fine girl. Fan girl got me.
I'm a fine.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
All right, Katie, Good to see you.

Speaker 5 (01:10:54):
Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
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