The Doug Pike Show 5-26-24

In this show Doug talks to Natalie Goldstrohm the coordinator  of Parks & Wildlife and covers fishing topics on Bass, Red Snapper, Blue Gill, and Speckle Trout. Doug talks about the careful release of fish and why its important. Tips on how to handle fish and safety on not hooking yourself in the eye or finger while protecting the fish. Safety water/swimming tips and stories from Doug and the callers.

Episode Transcript

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This is the Doug Pike Show,brought to you by American Shooting Centers Guns
Shooting at Instruction since nineteen eighty nine. Now here's Doug Pike. All right,
welcome aboard on this Sunday edition ofthe program during Memorial Day weekend.
We have got a lot of groundto cover today, and I'm trying desperately

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to get my laptop to quit worryingabout things that I'm really not that worried
about and focus on the things Iwant it to display. Oh well,
there's one of them right there that'scute and all. Now, let's see
if we can go for two.I can't even get the bar at the
bottom of the page that I needto see so that I can go where

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I need to go, and it'sjust disappeared. I think what I might
do is just restart this bad boy, if I can get it to do
that for me, refire that's gotto go away. Give me just a
second here. I'm kind of curiosto see how long this thing is gonna
persist on driving and driving me crazy. It's trying, it's trying to go

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for we're what already a minute intoit now. Melboyne that's one minute.
It's driven me crazy, and IM, okay, yeah, this is
closer to what I want to seea little bit anyway. All right,
well, let's let's just try andwe'll muddle through this segment, and then
during the break, I'll have astern talking to with this laptop of mine

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and see if we can't see,if we can't make it see the light
as it were. I was hoping, and I've talked about this all week
long. I was hoping at leastto get through the holiday period without a
boating or water related fatality. Butwe didn't make it. Already. Just

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yesterday, down at Galveston between thethe the old Pleasure Pier and there's a
shop, a store, I thinkthat's about a block farther east on the
seawall from the Pleasure Pier, anda group of several swimmers from Louisiana.

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We're out there swimming and twenty sixyear old guy. Twenty six year old
man got caught up in a riptidelike the rest of them, and of
the five, four made it backand this one, twenty six year old
guy did not. He was workedon. They got him back to the

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beach and worked on him very meticular, very aggressively actually to try and get
him back. But he was pronounceddead at the hospital. So maybe next
Memorial Day weekend we can do that. If you're gonna go to the beach,
please be careful. A dozen peoplea dozen people had to be helped

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out of the water yesterday around Galveston. Unless you are, unless you're a
currently qualified lifeguard, unless you aremaybe a surfer. Holy cow, I
think I see what happened to mine. I think I'll see Yeah, I

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think I see what happened to mylaptop. All of a sudden, all
these weird things started popping up onthe screen, none of which you have
anything to do with what I'm talkingabout. So I'll ignore them and then
i'll fix them during a break.It's not a big deal. But unless
you are a lifeguard, like Isaid, or unless you're maybe a surfer
leashed to your surfboard and out theretrying to ride some of those waves and

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you understand a little bit about ripcurrent and how to deal with it,
do us all a favor and don'twait out any deeper than you have to
wait out to pee, because weknow that's what you're going out there to
do most of you waste deep water. That's as far as you need to
go. Do your business, andthen come back up on the beach.
And if you do feel like you'rebeing swept away, if you do get

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talked into or you're feeling really reallybrave and strong and capable, and you
do get caught in a rip currentand that's pulling you away from shore or
down the beach, just stay calmand try to swim just very comfortably parallel
to the shoreline. Don't get inany hurry whatsoever until that outward push stops.

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Just keep letting the current take youwherever it's gonna take you. And
then, just like a good schoolbus driver, it's gonna drop you off,
and it's going to drop you offin water that you don't have to
fight to get back to the beachor back to dry ground wherever it is.
And it doesn't matter. I don'tcare if you're in a river,

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the ocean, the Gulf of Mexico, and inlet a jetty rip. Water
is powerful all of those places wherewater's water's undefeated. Moving water is undefeated
against people period. Anybody who evertries to beat it is going to wind
up in trouble. I've felt thatway a couple of times surfing. I

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grew up before there were leashes,and before most of us had common sense
and wouldn't try to go all theway out. We'd walk two thirds of
the way out the surfside, jetty, jump off three hundred yards from shore
into big, giant, sloppy,crashing waves, and five minutes into the

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deal, lose the surfboard and watchit get hit by fifteen waves and get
tumbled farther and farther away from usand closer and closer to the beach,
and we'd have to swim all theway back through all that rough water.
It's a miracle more of us didn'tget in trouble. We had no leash,
We had no It's like a safetynet. Really. That surfboard will

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will float a lot of people.One surfboard probably floats six or eight people
just hanging on to it. Butwhen you're out there hardly on a surfboard,
and some of the early leashes didn'texactly work well, pop one.
You get all you get to feelingreally cocky, insure yourself because you've got
this new fangled leash on your surfboard, and all you have to do is

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just pull your leg towards in it. It stretches a little bit, and
then that surfboard comes running back toyou. It's like a little puppy when
you take it out for a walk. That leash breaks when you're three hundred
yards offshore. And it's a differentproblem altogether. But I digress. I'm
getting kind of in the weeds onthis. Speaking of Memorial Day, I'm
gonna ask again that no matter whereyou go or what you do to have

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fun today, stop somewhere in yourday to reflect on the men and women
who gave their lives so that wecould go to the beach or play golf
or catch a bass or whatever you'redoing today, barbecue. The freedoms we
enjoy don't come, they haven't comeever without a really big price tag.

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And like I did twice yesterday,I'm gonna take five seconds, in just
a second, five seconds of yourtime this morning, so that you and
I and everybody in this audience canjust stop and think, just go as
deep into thought as you can infive seconds about the people who sacrifice their
lives so that we can enjoy ours. We'll do that right now, all

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right, if you thank you,If you caught the show yesterday, you
heard my conversation about speckl track withDak Geeselin, Deputy Director of Coastal Fisheries
for the Parks of Wildlife Department.I'm on board with the new limits,
I am, and I hope allof you understand the importance the importance of
the new three trout limit and newlength restrictions in regard to the full recovery
of this of these fish. That'swhat we're looking at. We're not looking

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at putting a band aid on somethingand making it better next year. Well
they're doing. We'll make it betternext year and the year after that,
the year after that, provided wedon't get any really major weather through here
or some horrible spill. But evenif those events occur, the resource already

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will be better equipped to rebound morequickly than it would otherwise. With as
many people who are moving to theTexas coast, and I guess a lot
of these people moving into Texas eitherare or will become fishermen here. How
can you not, How can younot if you know anything about the outdoors,

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if you ever if you ever caughtso much as one blue gill on
a cane pole wherever you came from. And you get here and you realize
we've got bays full of red fishand speckled trout, we've got tarpin offshore,
we've got red snapper. We've gotif you're willing to make the boat
ride, one of the better bluemarlin fisheries in the world. It's a

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long out to where they are,but they're out there, by gosh,
and if somebody moves here, it'sbass fishing incredible. At eight thirty this
morning, By the way, we'regonna talk to Natalie Goldstrom. She is
the coordinator of the Texas Parks andWildlife Department's Share Lunker, the Toyota Sharelunker
program, and I'm gonna pick herbrain a little bit on why some lakes

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are better than others. And atsome point, you know, I'm gonna
ask her about livescope and all thisnew electronic stuff that makes it so easy
to target these giant fish. There'sgoing to have to come some awareness program
for the people who are targeting giantfish and who still don't have the fishing

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experience in their lifetimes to have learnedthe importance of careful, gentle release of
all these fish, because the biggerthese fish get, the less capable they
are of of making it through avery sloppy banging the fish on the bottom
of the boat, reaching in therewith your bare hands, trying to get

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six hooks of a crank bait outof a fish's mouth. All these things
tear these fish up. Yanking agill raker out because you're trying to save
a three dollars plug, all thesethings make it very difficult for those fish
to survive. And now that eveninexperienced fishermen are going to be able to

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target and catch six, eight,ten, twelve, fourteen pound bass,
those fish are at great risk.And those fish, the ten to eleven,
the tens in up, those arethe ones that most need to be
coddled and babied and taken good careof so that they might spawn millions more

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offstring with the genetic capability to growthat big or even bigger. It's such
a simple thing, it really is, and I see it way too often
even now. I would think thatthe majority of fishermen now are at least
aware of how to properly release aspeckled trout or a red fish or a
bass. But in the heat ofthe moment, if fishing is fast and

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you want to get that one littlefish off your hook so you can get
out there and catch a bigger one. Sometimes we get a little over exuberant
and we get a little careless,and we do things that hurt fish.
And that's just take a second,okay. I don't know anybody currently whose
next meal depends on their ability tocatch a fish and take it home and

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clean it up and eat it.I know a lot of people who love
to fish like I do, andwho love to catch those fish and then
very gently release them, let themgo, get them back in the water
as fast as you can and ascleanly as you can. Don't grab them
with dry hands. Oh my god. When I was fishing up at Fayette
County Reservoir with Jane Ballard and RickRule many years ago, when they were

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both guiding on that lake during thesummertime, there was a time when those
bass were schooling and pushing big schoolsof shad up to the top, and
you could catch them on top watersand it was so fun and so fast,
and you could easily, on theright day catch forty to fifty sixty
bass, maybe more if you reallywanted to grind on them, and every

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now and then you'd catch one thathad a clear impression of a human hand
across its back, and in thatimpression where all the protective slime had been
removed when somebody with a dry handgrabbed that fish, there's fungus growing,

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and ultimately that growth, that bacterialgrowth, would wind up killing those fish
for no good reason, for noreason at all except some by was in
a hurry, and that takes meback. I'll bring the little tambourine for
barbarous hooks out again. If youreally are into catching release, if you

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truly are in it, then mashflat every barb on every hook you throw.
Otherwise you're gonna end up killing fishbecause they're gonna eat that plug too
deep, and it's gonna get intheir gills and it's gonna tear them up,
and you're not gonna be able toback that hook out of there without
ripping something. So you can beyou can be kind of into catching release

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and not worry about your hooks,just leave them alone. That's fine.
You can be kind of into it, But if you're you're truly a conservationist,
as I feel like I am,and you truly want to help the
fish have a better chance of survivingthan mash. The barb flat also keeps
you from having to go to theer, doesn't it. Fish comes up
and shakes a hook out and itcomes flying at you, and it hits

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you in the hand or the face, or the leg or wherever. And
you look down and all you cansee is the bottom. I'm with the
bend of a hook in you andit's got a barb on it. Your
day's done. You got to goback to the dock. You gotta get
in your car. You got todrive to the er somewhere and get them
to run. Numb it up,good, run it through, snip it

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off, back it out, doall that. Or if you have no
barbs on your hooks and you justtake a deep breath, you grab your
flyers and just push down and backit out. Man it a little slider
right on out of there. I'vehad to do it a couple of times
to myself now over the years.It's so easy. Just take a break.
Sorry I'm late, Melvine. We'lltake a break. We'll come right

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back on the way out. I'lltell you about Carter's Country. Had a
little discussion yesterday and it just kindof dawned on. It was me and
who was it, Jimmy West.We were talking. I was talking to
Jimmy yesterday and out of nowhere,he says, you know, it's only
three months to Dove season. AndI kind of already had thought about that
about ten times. I started thinkingout about it four months out or so.

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And yes, we've got June,July, August Dove season, and
it's gonna come at us like afreight train. I don't know what's gonna
happen between now and September one,but it's not as far away as everybody
thinks. And if you want toget a new gun this year, if
you want to get more Ammo,if you want to just get anything you're
gonna need for dub season, whynot go to Carter's Country now and pick

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it up. They've got everything youneed. Stores, a couple of stores
around town, the Big Store onthe north side of course, where Mega
Range Day took place yesterday, witha bunch of pistol manufacturers up there.
They've got that full service range upthere. Five star Gold Medal range.
Go up there, shoot your rifle, shoot your shotgun, shoot your handgun.
And then of course they've got theconcealed carry classes as well. You

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don't have to have the permit nowto protect yourself and your family and whatnot,
but that class is a tremendous assetto you so far as learning and
understanding the laws about carrying guns inTexas. Carterscountry dot COM's websites. Start
your search there. Get to knowthe place. By the way, you

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don't even have to go to oneof the stores. You can get online
and buy almost anything in those storesand have it shipped right straight to your
door. Carterscuntry dot com. That'sthe website, Carterscountry dot Com. This
is Sports Talk seven ninety on theGo with iHeartRadio Friends. You've got to
try the conversation continues this as theDoug type show. I wonder how many

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people have ever air guitared that song. It's just said that the notes are
so crisp, aren't they. Idon't know. That just seems like it'd
be a good one, and I'mnot an air guitar guy. Did you
ever play that game? What wasthe name of that game? Melvin.
Do you remember you're a little young, much younger than I, so you
might remember that. You remember nothing. I can't. You're not coming through

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on the air. I don't knowwhat button you're pushing. I don't know
who you're talking to. But it'snot us. Hit it again, testing
one two testing. There you are. It's working all right, man,
Thanks, appreciate it. Seven onethree two one two five seven nine.
Here it's not it's not the Dugpikesyou have. Nothing goes wrong. Something's
got to go wrong every day.So now we're done with them. That's
good. Seven one three two onetwo five seven ninety Email me dugpikee at

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heeartmedia dot com. And now forthe test of all tests. Every weekend,
we'll try it. I work,yes, sir Dave. What's up?
Man? Well, well that's soI can play just a slap arrhythm
to it. But that's about allI can do. No, that's all
right, I can play. Youknow. That's good. Hey, uh
no, you know we got theMemorial Day and we have so many I

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mean, I hate this, youknow, accidents and everything that happened.
Safety on the water, safety inthe woods and double safety in the hood,
because even here where I live,you got to be very very careful
on who's coming up behind you.Hey, uh oh, and on the
fish. Uh yeah, when theydo swallow it. What what's your opinion

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on I would just cut the lineand let the hook roast out. Yeah.
If you've got a big old crankbait halfway down their throat it's and
three hooks are involved and they're waydown in there, I think that that's
a special circumstance. Okay, somehowyou got to get that thing out of
there, because they can't even swallowanything past it if they do get away

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with it. But yeah, ifyou're if you're using natural bait and you've
got a single hook sitting there andit's it's too deep for you to try
to get it out safely because youdidn't match the barb down, I'll throw
that in. Uh. You'll reachin there and cut it down as far
and as close to that hook,and if you've got wire cutters and can

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reach in far enough, snip thathook in half and there's a The fish
has a better chance without the hook, but it also has a better chance
of living it with the hook stillin its body somewhere if if you haven't
ripped and torn it and just beatit to a pulp trying to get that

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ten cent hook back. Yes,oh yeah, is Lake Conrad opened for
boats? Why would it not be? Is it too full? I was
just saying, Well, what Iwas saying is if any kids are out
there and you got them on there, make sure they got a live jacket
on more they're going down to Gallaston. I mean, especially around the jetties

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over there where you got riptides andstuff like that, put a live jacket
on them. Man, all thoselittle rip all those little rock drains.
Saint Louis past is horrible that place. And it's not the past it's horrible.
It's that's the the inattention people payto the strong current there that's horrible.
The past is just doing what thepast does. It flushes water in,

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and it flushes water and debris out. It brings clean water in and
it flushes out. It's like whata hurricane is when you when you break
it really down. That's nature's flushingof the toilet and whatever is in it's
way, it's gonna try to removethat by bringing in monstrous tides and then
the water receeds and a lot ofgarbage gets carried out with it, garbage

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for mother Nature, not for us. It might take out somebody. Boy.
When what was it Harvey maybe camethrough the trucks floating upside down,
There were washing machines, There wereall kinds of stuff, whole roofs off
of houses down on Bolivar Peninsula,floating around in the Gulf of Mexico.

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All that stuff Nature says doesn't belongthere. We put it there, and
we build it as strong as wecan. We're like the three little pigs.
We keep building stronger and stronger houses. And nature comes along and says,
no, we're gonna take that onewith us. We don't like it
there, So yeah, go ahead. No. One time I went down
there in a van, I meandown by the river San Louis Pass.

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So I was over there and thenall of a sudden, I'm laying in
there, and the breeze is comingin, and all of a sudden,
the water is coming up on thebandy. Thank god I got it out
of there. Bit because it wasa borrow It was a borrowed Vand yeah,
I mean this is back in theeighties. Man. Yeah, there's
a little bit of a write ofpassage thing for people, young people who

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are super enthusiastic about going to thecoast and driving on the beach. It's
a cool thing. You end upgetting stuck, and you better have some
cash in your pocket too. Nownowadays, some of these guys might have
little hot spots and take a creditcard. But back when I was getting
stuck on the beach, if youdidn't have cash, money in your pocket,
and they just drive on to thenext one. The record, guys,

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have you got some Have you gotsome five gallon buckets? Go down
there and get some water and pourit around your tires in that sand and
let that sand keep going. Andthen I got out of a bag like
that, Yeah I have. I'vehad him in the back of my head
for probably forty years now, aremedy to ever getting stuck in the sand
like that. And it's just sosimple and so easy, and it's some

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if someday before I die, Imight put that one out there too.
It's really and it seriously would work. I mean, this is not some
pie in the sky goofy thing.Somebody wants a piece of this action with
me, just let me know andI'll I'll share the idea and we'll we'll
make money off of it together.I hear, how yall appreciate you?

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Yeah, everybody. God bless us, God keep us, God bless America.
And thanks for all our veterance.Thank you, Dave appreciate it.
MA, thank you. Oh boy. Yeah, it's some. The water
is, like I said, it'sundefeated, and there's just there's just no
way that swimming against it is evergoing to work out well for anybody.

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Uh. These infinity pools that youyou it's a little tiny thing like about
a maybe ten or twelve foot longby six foot wide pool people will put
in the back of their yard andit has a motor that moves the water
and you swim against the water.I can guarantee you that if you turn
that water up to more than maybeone knot, I don't know how they

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set those things up, but you'renot going to be able to swim against
it for long. It's hard,it really is. It's very difficult.
And the closest I ever came tobeing stupidly lost was wade fishing once,
and I was on the second sandbar and there were some guys out on
the third bar, and they werecatching a lot of trout, and the
tide was down. It wasn't likeit. It wasn't neck deep out there.

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I didn't like to wait much deeperthan about maybe just the bottom of
my rib cage. That's about asdeep as I want to be, because
it makes it difficult to keep yourelbows out of the water and keep your
rodding reel out of the water,and to handle fish. If you're waiting
waist deep or knee deep up inthe bay somewhere, or on a first

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or second bar, maybe then it'sa lot easier to handle fish and deal
with them. But when you're startingto deal with them at shoulder level and
you lose a lot of leverage eventhat it can and that can become dangerous
and you can end up taking atrout in the face at some point.
Anyway, so I'm out there andwanting to go out there badly, So

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I think you know this. Iwas very young, very fit. I
was surfing probably at least once aweek back then, and I put the
grip of the core candle grip ofthe rod in my mouth and just started
swimming, just doing side strokes outtoward that third bar. And I had
a mirror ure hanging off the endof the rod. I didn't want it

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anywhere up near my body, Soit was six and a half seven feet
away from me and just hanging offthe end of the rod, and I'm
swimming out there and swimming out there, and that rod tip just suddenly felt
heavy, and I couldn't figure outwhat it was, and I knew I
was dragging something, but I alsoknew I didn't have bottom under me anyw
where I was probably in about sixand a half seven feet of water,

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and I'm no NBA Center in heightby any means, And so I just
kept pressing and pressing, and atone point kind of hoping I'd make it
out to that bar without having tojust ditch that rod and reel. I
had already considered that. And bythe way, if it comes down to
you making it back to the beachor you losing your rod and reel,
then ditch it. You can alwaysbuy another rod and reel. Always so

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quick sidebar. So I'm swimming,I'm swimming, and I finally get out
there and I feel sand under myfeet, and I'd take a couple more
hard pushes and okay, I'm outthere fishing with these guys, and this
one guy very close said, man, are you okay? And I said
yeah, And I still hadn't evenpicked the rod tip up out of the
water yet. Now I'm okay,but something's on the end of my line

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here, and I just couldn't figureout what it was, and I thought
it might might have been seaweed.Well, what it turned out to be
is one of those giant, uglycabbage. We had jellyfish things that as
surfers we used when there were alot of them in the water, we'd
throw them at each other and ifthey hit you on their little bottom,
stinging side, and then you'd havea big red welt on your back the
rest of the day. But mostlywe just we just bombed each other with

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them. About the softball sized ones. But I had one that was like
darn near as big as a canalope. And that thing had been dragging me
down and dragging me and was tryingto take me to the bottom of the
Gulf of Mexico. But I madeit. I made it, and I'm
very glad I did. Um.I'll tell you what, ask Jeff to
call back, because we got toget out of here now, and then

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we got to go talk to Natalie. But I want to hear from him,
you know I do, Jeff,do me a favorite call back in
a little while and I'll take careof you. Then right now, I
got to get out and talk andtell you about timber Creek so we can
get back to the Toyota Sharelunker programwith Natalie Goldstrom. Timber Creek is down
there on FM twenty three fifty one. Twenty seven holes, great beautiful twenty
seven holes that are all easily playable. Just standing on a tea box for

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ten seconds, you'll see where thearchitect and the designer of that golf course
want you to hit the ball.If you can hit it there, you'll
have a great approach shot. Ifyou can't, then you'll be like me.
Excellent food, great teaching staff.They've got the jj Woods Golf Performance
Center down there now up and runningto help fine tune your game. And

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they got a giant practice area too, big old putting green, big generous
practice range, and a whole lotof fun, a whole lot of golf
on FM twenty three fifty one,about four or three four miles west of
the golf Freeway on FM twenty threefifty one. Very easy to find timber
Creekgolf Club dot com. Make atea time now Timbercreekgolf Club dot com.

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This is Sports Talk seven ninety onlineat Sports seven ninety dot com. Now
more Doug Fighte. Hi, welcomeback to Doug Pike Show on Sports Talk
seven ninety. Thank you so muchfor listening this morning on this Memorial Day
weekend. In this segment, we'regoing to take a close look at the
Toyota share Lunker program with the Parksand Wildlife Departments coordinator of that program,

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Natalie Goldstrim. Let me click thisbutton here, Natalie, good morning,
Welcome aboard, good morning. Thanksfor much for having me. Oh,
thanks for your time. Yeah,I appreciate that. Let's start, if
you would were just a brief historyof the sharelunker program, when it started
and why. Yeah. So,the Shareleunker program has been around for nearly

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forty years now, wow, Andit started in nineteen eighty six when the
very first share lunker ever was sharedwith the Toyota Sharelunker programs. And folks
might remember this individual fish. Itwas a fish called ethel Yes, and
she was seventeen sixty seven pounds andshe was caught over at Lake Fork where

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else. It was a time,of course, and there was a time
where backfishing was kind of transitioning toa HARVT oriented fishery to a more catch
and release fishery. So it wasa big deal. It was a big,
big impact to bass fishing around thattime. That was. And the

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program is all about making bigger,better baths here in the state of Texas,
and we do it by partnering withour anglers. We really depend on
them sharing information about their big fishcatches with our agency, and we also
do it with our industry support.So we have an incredible sponsor of the
program with Toyota and some additional pricesponsors, and it's all about bringing these

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groups together and making the biggest fisheryin Texas that we can. Originally,
if I remember correctly, originally itwas either thirteen pounds or bust if you
had a twelve twelve or twelve fifteen. Thanks for playing. But now there
are different different divisions if you will, among the share luckers. Can you
explain how that works? Yeah,So we still we do a collection period

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of thirteen pound bas that we'll bringback to our hatchery for spawning purposes,
and that is only from January firstthrough March thirty first, and it's for
those big, beautiful baths but arethirteen pounds are heavier. But we also
do what's called a year round dataentry in our shri Lunker app a website,
and that's for anglers that are catchinganything that is eight pounds or better

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or twenty four inches. So wehave categories for eight pounders, double digits,
and thirteen pounders, and that thirteenpounder is divided out in between two
categories, those that are caught duringthe collection season and brought back to our
hatchery responding, and those that arecaught outside the collection season. So you
still want to know how many bigbass we're catching in Texas, that's right.

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We're really relying on our angler.It's to help us get a good
idea of how many eight pounders orbetter out in our reservoirs. Our sampling
gear just doesn't target these big bodyfish. And while we would love to
go out there and fish for themourselves, we don't have that kind of
time. So we use things likecreole surveys where we're talking with anglers down

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on the water and tournament results.But those aren't the only folks out there
catching big baths. You know thatthere's guides, we can warriors out there
and that they're all targeting these bigbass. So we're just hosking folks to
help us better manage our lunnger population. And if you do catch an eight
pounder, you can take three scalesoff your fish, and we can get

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genetics off that fish, and wecan know whether or not that fish is
like related to any of our othershow anchors, if it was patched in
our hatchery, if it was ashare anker descendant, or if it has
you know, miscellaneous relations with otherfish out there. Now, let's look
at the twenty twenty four season nowspecifically because Texas cast uf a lot of

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really big bass, and I sawon the list that there were a couple
of offspring from previous entries on.Yes, that's right. So we had
a tremendous season. We had nineteenshare lunkers from seven different reservoirs caught throughout
the state, and every one ofthese fish we take a genetic sample off

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of and we can determine a coupleof different things we determined that one of
the fish was actually a recapture fromlast year, and there was a thirteen
pound bass that was caught over inlink Athens that had been hashed at our
hatchery from her previous share lunker.Wow. And I guess that the one

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that was recaptured just didn't learn thefirst time, huh. Either that or
it had such a great experience withour program and takes such great care of
her that she just wanted to doit all over again. Yeah, it's
like biting that lures, like jumpingon the shuttle back to the five star
hotel. I guess really for abass, isn't it? That's great?

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Is And we just did a release. We met We met up with several
of the anglers that caught fish fromOAHIV. We met up with them yesterday
or I guess it was Friday,and we released those fish back into the
reservoir. So that fish is backout there for someone else to have an

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opportunity to catch their fish of alifetime. Natalie Golds from here from the
Toyota share Lunker program. Ohivy's thehot ticket year this year, and I
think it was last year too,right, what's what's going on with that?
Like why is it? Why isit the Golden One? Now,
there's several different reasons. And firstof all, like Texas isn't a great

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place geographically, we have really longgrowing seasons, so there's lots of forage
out there for our best to beable to eat and get really big.
And oah Ivy had a kind ofa unique experience that water level had dropped
quite a bit during our drought duringthirteen twenty thirteen fourteen, and then during

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twenty sixteen seventeen eighteen. During thattime period we had a tremendous water level
increase and so it almost is likea brand new lake again that there's a
ton of nutrients back into the reservoirand the fifths have a great abundance of
food for them to be able toeat. And about ten years prior,
we had actually stocked sherlanker offspring becausethere was a great run of shar linkers

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caught about ten twelve years ago,so we were putting sherlunker genetics back in
there, and it was just aperfect storm. You have the right management,
you have the right geenes, youhave the right habitat, you have
the right food sources for your bass. And this is just what you end
up with, is you get abunch of really big fish hut there.

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And none of this can happen withoutlong term planning, long term strategy,
long term record keeping, because that'spart of the reason people need yorke.
When we went to three speckled trout, oh, I want to catch five
speckl trout. I want them now, you know, and everybody wants everything
now. But you're talking about stuffthat to make ohivy what it is now.
You're talking about events that happened tentwelve years ago, and so now

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I got to ask you this one, What the heck happened to Lake Fork?
Where did it go? It felloff the mask? Yeah, you
know, it's all cyclical. Theyhad a drawdown, especially when they were
doing some work on their damn okay, and that's definitely going to impact all
your feude resources out there. Andso I think that we're seeing the comeback

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of Lake Fork. I think thebath Master Elite tournament that was out there
in March this year really showcased thatlake Fork is on an upswing and that
we're going to be expecting some reallygreat things out of Lake Fork pretty soon,
and then you got to look atRayburn and Talita Ben there's this like
the Grandpas that just keep bringing candyto the little every year. Huh yeah.

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Yeah. They're two great, greatreservoirs that continually produce big baths out
there. And we got share lunkersout of both of those reservoirs this year
as well. Almost every year,I think I get well, I got
to get to this before we runout of time. What's the opinion around
the office up there about the newtechnology, the live scopes and all of

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these different ways that people can justride around and look for a giant bass
and then just drop something straight downto it. Well, we're watching it,
we're aware of it as an agency, and we're starting to do studies
with it, especially on something likeour crappee population that it might really impact

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in the future. So we're awareand right now it's the legal gear.
So if anglers want want to goout there and target big fish with ford
facing sonar, it's up to them. And we've been able to tick that
share lunkers that you know, peoplemight not have necessarily been able to find

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in the past because now they seethem in what would be considered kind of
an open water scenario where you wouldn'ttraditionally target a big, big bath,
sort of like red snapper in away, there are places on the vastly
empty bottom of the Gulf of Mexicowhere all of a sudden there's these little
hard spots and there'll be three orfour giant snapper sitting on them. Why

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so, by the way, Igave a real pretty good speech a few
minutes before you came on about releasingfish gently and carefully, because if somebody's
looking for ten and twelve pounders andthey catch a six pounder and just bounce
it off the deck and rip thehooks out of it, that's not ever
going to make a ten pounder,is it, right? Right? We

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really stressed good baths. Care,especially with our shri auncle program, is
something that we think about because theseto thirteen pounders, these are old fish.
When you have a thirteen pound bassin Texas, it takes on average
ten years for our bus to getto be thirteen pounds. So you're talking

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about having long term kind of planning. You have to make ten years on
average to be able to make thisthirteen pound bas for someone to be able
to catch so big bass. Handlingcare is really important to us. And
you know that is why we've changedup how we go and pick up our

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fish. That it's not just ourToroya Shalker program driving across the state to
go and pick up fish. Andit doesn't matter if they're on the Mexico
border or down in Austin. Now, what we're doing is we're having you
know, certified way stations, shalanker holding stations that are trained on how

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to hold these big fish. Wehave a response team shepherd Texas Parks and
Wildlife team is closest to that fishgeographically, we'll actually go pick it up.
So the angler's not standing around waitingon me to drive the cross so
it's sure sorry to wait, tide, and that fish makes it back into
a hatchery that much sooner, soit she's more likely to be able to

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be in a great condition to beable to spawn, which is ultimately the
goal when we're picking these fish up. One more quick question. We're already
running a little bit late. Iactually had a veterinarian give me a very
good explanation. Why do we nothave a twenty pounder yet? In Texas.
I'm kind of curious to hear youranswer. Oh God, you know

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that's That's one of the things aboutthe Sharlanker program. We're not necessarily trying
to make the next world wrapper,the next state record. What we're trying
to do is trying to create morebig baths out there for anglers to be
able to catch you. And thatpiggybacks exactly with what he talked about Natalie,
because he's a he's a veterinarian,and he studies a lot of stuff,

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and he knows a lot of stuf. And he said one of the
reasons for this is that no matterhow many times you genetically manipulate stuff,
there's there's kind of a top endthat that's as far as those fish can
go. That's why doesn't Georgia havea twenty five pound bass. What don't
Florida have a twenty five or California. It's because they can only go so
far. And I think where weare now and what the lakes can give

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them in forge and whatnot. Hey, we're getting fifteen sixteen pounders. I'm
not gonna sneeze at them. I'mokay with that. I'll go get one
of them and that. Yeah,Natalie goes from thank you so very much.
I'm sorry, I'm running kind ofI'm running kind of behind them.
My producers looking at me CROSSI no, that's perfectly fine. There's such great
things to talk about the Shanning forprogram, and I certainly appreciate you having
me on to be able to sharesomething. Well. I would love to

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do it again sometime too, nexttime, if we ever get an eighteen
point one nine, I'm going tomake the first call. I'm going to
make us to you. That soundsgreat. Thank you for it. Thank
you, Natalie. All right,Bobby oh Man, what a great call.
What a great call. I likethat. Okay, we're gonna take
quick break when we get back.Jeff, you are first up, I
promise, but I'm running a littlebit late right now. On the way

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from Tosco Slash Sports Talk seven ninetyback to the Doug Pike Show. Welcome
back Doug Pike Show on Sports Talkseven ninety. Thanks for listening. Certainly,

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do appreciate it as promised. I'mnot going to waste a second.
I'm gonna get right to Jeff.He's been very patient. What's up,
Jeff? Arn't you know this isbiannial pitch for a return to your military
history setup or a segment or whateveryou were able to do. I guess
you did it on your own,and it was really well researched. All

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wars, all services. No TomHanks, no, Tom Broke called no
FDR now Churchill, No. AndI appreciate it very much. If I
can control you, it's to seeif it can be brought back. If
I could find it, I would. All I have to do is find
a sponsor. It doesn't cost alot of money. I was just telling
Melboyn about that, and I feellike that thing ought to run every day

(42:51):
on every station in the country.It really should, and it's not something
that would take a ton of money, and it's something that I know a
lot of people would appreciate it,and it would help younger people learn a
little bit about all that the militaryof these United States has done for them
so that they can be they canbe camped out on campus instead of taking

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their finals and doing all the goofythings young people do. I'm biased in
World War two in the Pacific,but like I said, you covered everything
more of it in twelve You dida lot of research I did, thank
you, not the obvious stuff.And it wasn't all normandy all the time
either, No, huh. Ifound several really good sources for that information,

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and I would just I would findmyself. I said, okay,
I got fifteen minutes to get thisknocked out, and I'd look up and
it'd be forty five minutes later,because every time I would kind of turn
a page, there'd be something elseI'd want to look at, and it
was. It was fascinating to me. And I get that from my dad.
He was a history major at Tulane, and I don't know he ended
up in the oil business like mosteverybody over here, but yeah, that's

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my I'm fascinated with history. Ireally generation of oil men from that euro
is pretty damn good too, asa different group of folks no found in
this city largely it was indeed.Yeah that's true. Yeah, thank you,
Jeff. I appreciate the call.Thank you, thanks for being on
the air today. Yeah. Iwouldn't have missed it. I really wouldn't.
Thank you boy. Thanks. Yeah, that's some That's something that I

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would I would absolutely love to revive. It's had a few sponsors over the
years, and I was telling Melvinwhat it is is a it's about a
sixty second spot. In hindsight,I haven't had it on the air in
a while, and I'm just lookingfor somebody who cares enough about the US
military to share it with all ofour radio audiences. And this it can

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be as granular as a local spotonce or twice a week, or it
can be as as big as runningon ten twenty thirty fifty one hundred stations
and one hundred mon markets. Wehave hundreds literally of radio stations at iHeartRadio,

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iHeart media, and I can't thinkof any of them that would turn
down an opportunity to highlight and showcasethe accomplishments of the American military. And
I didn't pull ey punches. Therewere a couple of couple of weeks when
things didn't go our way on theway to an overall victory. We had

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setbacks as a military, as mostworld militaries have. But it really it
opened my eyes. And I think, like Jeff and the others who who
thanked me for running those things,I was. I felt like I was
just doing it because it's something thatneeded to be done. I didn't need
a pad on the back. AllI need is somebody who's willing to fund

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it, and I am in aposition to make all of the arrangements for
that. If anybody out there isthinking, you know, I kind of
appreciate this on more day that wehad this opportunity thanks to our military,
and I've got a business that Iwouldn't mind, wouldn't mind having mentioned a
couple of times a week. Ican help you with that. Just email

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me Doug Pike at iHeartMedia dot com. Thank you for bringing that up,
Jeff, and I hope somebody,somebody cares enough to maybe start a conversation
about this, because, like Isaid, I feel like like I said
to Jeff, I feel like itought to run on every station in the
country every day, fifteen twenty times. Make sure everybody understands who pulled the

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heaviest load to make us able todo what we're doing today, talking about
fishing, talking about golf in alittle while, and going outside this afternoon
and doing whatever we want to do, because we still have choices in this
country. And some people make betterchoices than others, clearly, but we
still have choices se one three,two, one two five seven ninety Email

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the better part of thirty years now, I think, And I don't remember

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and more fun and more user friendly. And he has checked every one of
those boxes, every one of thoseboxes. It's a fantastic place, it
really is. And it's just soconvenient to anybody on the west side of

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town or the southwest side or thenorthwest side. You get the geography,
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that it has three sporting places,courses, it has rifle and pistol.
From five yards that's your home defensestuff. Out to six hundred yards that's
your aim a little higher. It'sgonna drop a little bit on the way
to there. That's kind of thatrange. It's fun to watch the six

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hundred yard guys, it really is. They are scientists as much as they
are shooting enthusiasts. There is apop up silhouette range for twenty two shooting
right next to that six hundred yardrange the big long range rifle ranges.
There is a beginner's wing shooting area. There are about ten trap and skeet
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eighty nine. Now here's Doug Pike. Stay, but I got to finish
a tech or an email here realquick. I'll cut it short and when
he gets it, he'll know thatit was meant for him. Yeah,
this is well, I'll tell youwho it was. It was. Mark
over there in Georgia emailed me abouthis family and the importance that Memorial Day

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has for them. These men were. These men volunteered and are all humble
and honest and never spoke about thewar ever. Were talking about World War
Two, these men. He sentme a picture yesterday and I thought i'd
responded. Maybe I did, andI apologize if I didn't. Mark.
His father's ninety seven years old andstill playing golf. I will have to

(50:23):
live that long to shoot my age. I hope he's doing better than I.
That's me talking out. Yeah,I might have a shot if I
can if I can hang out thatlong, if I can make it that
long. His dad was an AirForce MP assigned to protect and control the
Luftwaffe air bases. Wow and hisbrothers Uncle Wow, Uncle's Heavy, and

(50:46):
Derwood fought in Patten's tank battalion atthe Battle of the Bulge. Those guys
saw a lot. They saw aheck of a lot. And I don't
blame him for not wanting to talkabout it. It had to be just
horrific. And the generation that's comingup now that's never never had to put

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on a uniform, never had towatch friends and people around them get ripped
to pieces. I hope they neverdo have to see that. But it's
imperative that they understand that it happened. It's real and it happened, and
that's why they get to run aroundand scream and protest and have the right

(51:32):
to do that in this country,have the opportunity to voice their opinions in
this country and not be well.In some cases, you can voice whatever
opinion you want, so long asyou realize that it may just be your
opinion in yours alone, and thatother people are entitled to have their opinions
as well, and you can't tellthem they're wrong just because they don't agree

(51:58):
with you. It's not really complicated. Rick Bisse waded in a little while
ago. Rick Bice waged in aboutdriving on dry soft sand. He said
one word of advice, don't don't. Yeah, I agree with that.
Alan weighed in during the same periodof time. It was about five am.

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Some guy worth the original one righthere, Yeah, here it is
saw a fool and that it'll gowithout saying when I keep going take a
K five Blazer. That was abig fine vehicle, four wheel drive.
Boy, you could go almost anywherein one of those. But this guy,
apparently based on subsequent emails that Alansent, probably on some sort of

(52:49):
narcotics, tried to take his Kfive across West Bay and it didn't work.
It didn't work. Now the tidewas out and there wasn't as much
water as there was sand for mostof the area he was going to try
to cross, but as usual,it didn't work. On a dope?

(53:16):
What a dope? Seven one threetwo one two five seven ninety Email me
Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com. Ihave gotten some fantastic information here in my
inbox on looking at about a coupleof people who may be interested in sponsoring
this week in US Military History again, and I would be thrilled as soon

(53:39):
as I finish here and wrap upa couple of other things that are on
a front burner about I have aboutfour front burners after the show, and
then I will I will definitely respondto all of this and hopefully find somebody
to bring that thing back to life. Let's get to golf, shall we.
And there's a lot going on.Oh, by the way, the

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season Star Tournament. I wanted tomention that I'll talk a little bit more
about it later on, but rightnow, don't forget that the tournament is
underway without you if you are notalready registered, And I would recommend if
you're going to fish at all betweennow and Old Labor Day all summer long,
you've got to fish for one pointnine million dollars in prizes, so

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long as you are entered when youcatch a particular fish. You can find
all the rules and whatnot at StarTournament dot org. But above all else,
go ahead and get signed up.Not only will you be participating in
a fantastic effort to maintain the conservationlevels we have and even improve upon them

(54:44):
with coastal fisheries. You'll also beeligible to either win for yourself as much
as a truck boat, motor andtrailer, or for your kids college scholarships,
both quite valuable. These I thinkwe would all agree, all right
seven one three, two one twofive seven nine. Email on me Doug

(55:04):
Pike at iHeartMedia dot com. Letme see if my laptop will allow me
to find a couple of scoreboards thatI've been looking for for quite some time.
Now. I'm gonna go here,and I'm gonna go, oh here,
Let's see if I can. Ohyeah, I think I'm gonna I
might be in luck on this one. I'll get the Charles Schwab Challenge up

(55:25):
from up at Colonial in Dallas orfort Worth. Actually I don't. I
think the fort Worth people will bekind of mad if they heard me call
it. Dallas. Davis Riley fourteenunder par and he shot. He's been
steady Eddy all week long. Sixtysix sixty four sixty six through the first
three rounds. Guess who made arun yesterday and finds himself alone in second

(55:50):
place after after starting. Really thatthere was consideration that he might not even
make the cut. Scottie Sheffer shots two on Thursday, just wasn't himself
at all. And I think partlybecause of what happened the prior week,
with the legal issues that came upafter. Well there's a he said and

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the other guy said part about thisarrest of Scottie Sheffer. But the bottom
line is world's number one kind ofrighted the ship yesterday and while he is
four behind Davis Riley going into today'sround, he will be playing along alongside
Davis Riley and Scotty shot sixty fiveon Friday. In sixty three yesterday,

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he's ten under par and nobody elseis mean behind him. Pierson Cootie at
nine, Hayden Buckley at nine.But then we go to the eights,
that's Robbie Shelton, he's by himselfin fifth place, Tony feen Al alone
at at seven under par in sixplace. Then there's a few sixes,

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Colin more Cow one of them.And I got a hunch if I was,
if I was a betting man ingolf, I might put a couple
of dollars on Scotty Shuffler today.I might do that because Scotty. He
looks like he's right back to hisold self. He was rolling in putch
yesterday. I saw he rolled inprobably four or five putts better than fifteen

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feet I would say, so he'sin very good shape. I'm also gonna
try to get to the official website. Let me see what. No,
that's not it. I don't needthe Rolex website. For heaven's sakes.
I'm gonna have to navigate my way, and I'm going to do it all
the way over to the Tour championsLet's see if I can find leaderboard,

(57:42):
player stats, golf more tours.There's what I'm looking for. The PGA
Senior Tour Championship, Senior PGA Championship, Ernie Els and Gary I believe it's
Gary Chalmers. Yeah, ten underpar through the through that. At this
point, let me get the fullleader board up so I can talk a
little more intelligently through three rounds,Greg Chalmers, Ernie El's at ten under

(58:08):
par, Richard Bland and Chris DeMarcoat nine. Scott a Hend Let me
see if there's anybody else today thatgot a scroller down. Oh, yes,
Steve Stricker and Richard Green of thethree. Steve Stricker's name count jumps
out as most likely to succeed.I don't know how many people. Yeah,
Jason Kern's at seven, ratif Gousen, Stuart Sink at six. Beyond

(58:34):
there just playing for a little extramoney into another day in the sun.
I think you could say that's onlyfair. These guys are out and running,
most of them. It's right downto where are they they are at?
Oh gosh, this thing won't giveme what I'm looking for. How
can these things be so different?The PGA Tour and the tour champions be

(58:58):
so different in the structure of theirleader boards. It's not giving me the
information I want. I know who'sgonna win it. I can tell you
that my money's on Ernie Els.My money is on Ernie Els for this
one, and uh no better fittingchampion I think than he seven one three,
two five seven ninety. Email meDoug Pike at iHeartMedia dot com.
Got that taken care of. I'vegot this taken care of. Man,

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I'm getting there, I really am. I We're already at a break time
though, so I got to dothat. If you haven't heard on streaming
or uh on the or outside ofmy programs. The commercial I've got running
for VIP Auto Glass, I hopeyou do here it soon. I had
some fun making it and I thinkit will resonate with everybody because what I

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by a rock. So instead ofjust letting the sound lead the spot,
I said, Hey, you bedriving around and you're you're chilling, You're
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replaced that auto glass for me,reprogrammed it all in less than two hours.
I was going on the air andI wanted to get it done before,
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and her husband own the company.I'll have my guy there by nine o'clock.
He'll be out of there, nota problem. It'll be long gone

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before you go on the air.And I'm thinking, oh boy, I
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to him on the ground floor.They wouldn't let him in the building garage
to do it, so we didit outside where they wanted us to at
the building, and an hour anda half later, I get a call,
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This is Sports Talk seven ninety Hey, Houston sports Fan on air and on
Facebook at contact. Back to theDoug Pike Show. Welcome back to Doug

(01:02:35):
Pike Show on Memorial Day weekend.Thank you so much. I really do
appreciate you listening, and I'm happyto be here. I have no problem
whatsoever being in this chair on holidayweekend. I think it's important to especially
on this holiday. I just kindof wanted to be here to remind everybody
why we get to do what weget to do on this weekend. And

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best I can tell in this audience, you guys get it, and I
really do appreciate that that's important tome. Okay, let's get to these
front. Let me move all thisstuff. I got so much stuff in
my way right now. Holy cow, let's get too. Kevin has been
waiting longest. Then I'll get toyou, Brandon, Kevin, what's up,
buddy? Not much? How youdoing this weekend? Great man,

(01:03:19):
Appreciate all that you do doing yourshow. Always listen every weekend. Thank
you always one of the highlights onmy Saturday and Sunday morning. Oh man,
I'm higher ken. I want totalk a little bit about the water
safety. Yeah please. I wasa park ranger at Sant Louis Pass County
Park for about five and a halfyears. Oh before ever getting hired on

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down there, I did research aspart of my interview process, and no
average over like four and a halfdrownings a year over the last forty years
out there. And then about sevenyears ago, seven years ago, they
passed an ordinance making it illegal togo into the water. And since then,
in the seven years, I thinkthey may have had two or three
tronings. Wow, which it's reallycurtailed the number of people and they're not

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supposed to even get in the water. Yeah, that's right. It's like,
I don't know, it's maybe aquarter mile up the beach on the
Galliston side even right or farther,I don't know. Inside it's different than
the Brazoria right, it was aBrazoria County commissioners that passed the Oregon making
it illegal to get into you rememberthat. Yeah. That has saved a

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lot of lives, you know.Yeah, it's I've been ticked off some
fishermen, I'm sure, but it'ssaved a lot of lives of people who
just don't know any better or don'tcare. You know, I agree with
you. That's good. The dangerthere, though, is you'll have underwater
avalanches where sand chunks of sand bankcalled crock crater and fall down, Oh
I know, people underneath it withoutand even realizing what's happening. Holy mackerel.

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Yeah. And also go ahead,I've been I surffish every now and
then, and we're the old Sam'speer was there in surf side about there
one day and got caught in arippedyd that's back when they just had those
stub pylons there. Yeah, andit was trying to push me through the
pylons, and that was you justgot to let it take you in,

(01:05:13):
yeah, and spit it out whereveryou're it's gonna spit you out. If
you fight it, it's gonna takeyou. Yeah. That's what I was
talking about a little while ago.If you just let the water do what
it wants to do to you,eventually it will stop. That current will
stop, that flow and push onyou will stop. But if you try
to fight it and get yourself backto the beach against that, you're going

(01:05:34):
down. It's just yeah, onelast one last suring. I used to
I grew up fishing at the mouthof the Brass River, where I'm a
big flounder enthusiast, and of course, ever fall, I would be down
there three or four days a week, and I can't tell you how many
times I've been stuck going up insideof the mouth of that. The trick
today was talking about the buckets andthe water. They help and they'll get

(01:05:57):
you out. But I found thatif you take you a piece of carpet,
like a carpet remnant, yeah,and roll it up and keep it
with you, and then if youever get stuck, break those carpet remnants
out. And put it but underneathyour traction wheels, and that'll usually get
you out enough to where you canget to the minimum and keep on going.
Yeah that boy, once you getup ahead of steam, you just

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kiss that carpet goodbye. I keepdriving too, you know, if you
have to, you know, alwaysget more carpet. Man, you stop
to get out and go pick upthe carpet, you might have to use
it again. Oh yeah, Ihave done that. Oh man. Yeah,
looking back, as a teenager,my friends and I we got stuck
a lot. And fortunately it wasmostly football players and surfers, and so

(01:06:40):
we were pretty fitting, pretty strong. And between the five guys we usually
had punched into the car, fourof them pushing and one of them we'd
get. The littlest one always gotto drive, and we'd get out and
try to push it out. Man. But yeah, it we had to
call wrecords more than once. Andthat's why you tuck some money. You
hide some money somewhere. We're inthe car somewhere. Back on surf side,

(01:07:02):
it was either money or beer.Yeah. Yeah, those guys who
would pull you out for a sixpack. That's a good point. I'd
forgotten about that. Oh, myword, Kevin, thanks for the call
this morning. Man, Yes,sir, have a safe holiday week you
likewise. Safety reminders always welcome here. I'll never stop somebody from talking about
safety. Thanks Kevin. I seesomebody ideos all right, let me click

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there, get the brand and Brandon, thanks for holding on. Man.
What's going on? I'm good,good, thank you, thank you man.
What's what's on your mind today?I did about water? Okay,
I do like water. I dotoo. Are you a good swimmer?

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I am excellent. I'm glad tohear that. And you know what what
it takes to be a good swimmer. Also, besides being able to swim
is knowing your limitations. So doyou know that moving water is really hard
hard to swim against? No,okay, well trust me on that.
Okay, you gotta understand that.Now. The swimming pools are great because

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the water's just sitting there in thepool. It's not going anywhere but down
at the beach. If you getinto that water at certain times of the
day of the year, of theweek, whatever, if there's a lot
of wind, or if there's areal strong tidle movement, that water will
just kind of pick you up andmove you on down the beach, and
if you try to fight it andgo back to where it grabbed you,

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if you will, you're just notgonna win. And see what you got
to do is just let it,just let it kind of take you little
ways and then start swimming kind ofwith it, but a little ways toward
the beach, and you'd probably beable to get out of there. But
best thing, dude, just notgo in more than about waist deep down
at the beach. There's no reasonto do that. You ever swimming to

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Golf of Mexico. Actually we walked. Oh that's kind of cool. Yeah,
I like that. I like walkingthe beach. Yeah, and one
of the one of the the girls. Nothing wrong with that. You watch

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the game, you know, Idid. I did, and I was
somewhat disappointed. I had to runout in the about the eighth inning,
I think the bottom of the eighthand then when I came back, it
was it was already on the commercialsand the post game commercials that they run,
and I just I knew right thenthat we had lost. I was
so disappointed. One run, reallythe Astros one run, So yeah,

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they gotta fix that. Yeah,they'll get it. We'll go get them
today. What time do they playtoday, Brandon? Seven or not seven?
It's an early game again, okay, good, might be able to
see some of it and then eight. Okay, oh okay, all right,

(01:10:03):
I'll watch some of that too.What's going on in your weekend?
May probably we're gonna Oh before Itake that? Did you put up your
pants? Did I put up whatyour fants? My fence? No?
I didn't have any fence down yesterday. No, I'm good. My fences

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are fine. We did. Oh? Did you did you get it fixed
up from the storm? No,we're having a guy coming. Oh yeah,
good. You know what. Thenext thing I got to get on
my house is my roof over here, I mean next too, not nets
next to me, but it's tooTerry, Yeah, I got you.

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Terry's those house got fenced down,Oh boy, oh boy. Everybody's got
to put them back up to andfences are really expensive these days. Yeah.
I think I must have put upsome barbed wire around my house.
And see what they say. I'msure the homeowners Association have something say about
that. Who's your homeown owner?Well? I am the homeowner. I

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bought that house thirty years ago.Man, still in the same place,
and I have got I am livingproof that if you live in a house
long enough, you can fill upall the closet space. Not hard moving.
Come see come see our new house. I might do that. I

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just might show up one day,Brandon. Get somebody to email. Don't
don't say the address on the air, but get somebody to email it to
me or something. I might justpop over and say hello, was probably
email you to our new address.Cool, Yeah, it'd be fine.
Man. I'd love to come overand shake your hand, say hello.

(01:12:00):
For your son. I might dothat too. He's got you know,
well, here's the deal though.He's sixteen now, and he's got his
own car, and he kind offancies himself an independent young man. But
I might be able to drag himover. Yeah this on just meet you.
You got it. Yeah, I'dlove to come over and say hi.
All right, partner, I gottago, I gotta break. I
gotta hit man. Sorry about that, but happy, well, not happy

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once again. This is Memorial Dayweekend. It's a time to reflect and
realize that a lot of people dida lot of good things and sacrifice themselves
so that we can be silly andwatch baseball games and go to the beach
today. Thank you, Brandon.We're going. My cousin's running. My
cousin's graduation graduation. Good, that'sgood, I'm glad happy. Where's he

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graduating from Idaho Falls his high school? Oh nice, all right, partner,
I gotta run, Thank you,Brandon. I'll see you later.
Very good. All right, wegotta take a break. On the way
out. I will tell you aboutShooter's Corner Palmer Highway, twenty ninth Street,
Texas City, same place it's alwaysbeen for forty plus years, owned

(01:13:11):
by Jerry T. K and hisson Jay, who are two of the
best gunsmiths I have ever met.Just send another friend down there with a
rifle issue, and I am onehundred percent certain that Shooter's Corner is going
to take care of it for him. The problem, as he described it,
honestly, didn't sound terribly difficult,but it would. It would take

(01:13:33):
more than I would be willing toput into breaking down a rifle and putting
it back together. I'm pretty sureI could take one apart. I was
that kind of kid when I waslittle. I took apart a couple of
radios. I took apart all kindsof stuff and then usually would have four
or five parts left over when Itried to put them back together. That's
what I would call my grandfather.He could rebuild anything. My mother's father

(01:13:59):
was an AT and T engineer.But I digress Shooters Corner, Old School
gun Store, Palmer Highway, twentyninth Street, Rifles, shotguns, handguns,
new and used, plenty of ammo, plenty of optics, plenty of
camo, reloading supplies. Everything youneed as a shooter. Whether you're a
competitive shooter, your target plinker,you're a hunter, you are a self

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defense guy. Whatever your issues andinterests in the gun world, Shooter's Corner
can take care of you, andespecially the gunsmithing part. Forty plus years,
family owned and operator right down therein Texas City. If you wear
a badge for a living, youget a discount. Why doesn't everybody do
that? I just don't know.Shooters Corner, The Shooters Cornertx dot com

(01:14:47):
is the website v Shooters Cornertx dotcom, black Horse Golf Club, Fry
Road. I'm gonna slow it downa little bit so we can all know
where we're going. Northwest side oftown. Great two golf courses, easy
to get to from ninety nine orto ninety. They got great food and

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the grill over there. They havea fantastic teaching facility at the far end
of the range. A big tournament, small tournament you and a buddy wanting
to jump on. They've got twogolf courses so they can get a lot
of people out, a lot ofpeople out even on a holiday weekend like
it is right now. There's alsoa member it's a daily fee course.

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Okayroad two ninety to Fry Road,hang as south. A couple of miles
down the road, you'll start seeinggolf course. You pull through the gate
and you're there and from that pointeverybody's gonna make you happy. Daily fee
course, but it also has amembership option that gives you preferred tea times,
which would be handy on a weekendlike this. It gives you discounts
in the pro shop if you wantto fly the colors of your favorite place,

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which it probably will become, andyou get unlimited range use, which
is really really nice. They've gotit set up like a country club on
the far left end of the range. He's big containers of golf ball.
Just go hit all you want andif you empty one, they'll come fill
it up for you again, soyou can work on your game as much

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as you want, whenever you want. Blackhorse Golf Club dot com is a
website that membership option really is avery good deal for someone who likes to
swing the clubs and either uses itto get better or just to decompress like
I do. Black Horse goolf Clubdot com. This is Sports Talk seven
ninety, breaking sports news on Facebooktwenty four to seven. We'll get that

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information to them. This is theDougpipe Show. Hi, welcome back Dougpipe
Show on Sports Talk seven ninety.Let me take a quick look here.
I'm wearing a different pair of readingglasses this morning to see if it makes
any difference. Kind of maybe,sort of, I don't know. Oh,
oh good, that's good. That'sgood. That's good. I'll take

(01:16:57):
a look at all this after theshow. Yeah, Billy Wade in I
two always loved this day in historyspot and have always wanted it to come
back. I will definitely be talkingto him about that. I will definitely
be talking to Let's see here,Oh yeah, Billy, this is kind
of funny after I did that VIPauto glass. But Billy wade in and

(01:17:19):
said, Okay, maybe I'm behindthe times or maybe just a little ignorant,
but I have to ask what hasto be reprogrammed on a windshield.
I'm not sure exactly everything that's beingreprogrammed, but I think it has a
lot to do with the moisture sensingstuff that dictates how fast the wipers go

(01:17:41):
when you put them on that intermittentthing. I don't really know, though,
and all I know is that ithad to be reprogrammed. Oh.
I think there's some lane changing stuffinvolved in that as well, but I
can't be sure exactly what it is. I guess what I could do,
or what you could do, iscalled VIP auto glass. They'd be happy
to take what it is. They'dbe happy to but I do. I

(01:18:02):
can tell you right now. I'vegot them in my phone. I've got
their place in my phone. Andthe reason I've got it my phone is
because the next time I hear thatgod awful sound. And you all know
what I'm talking about. If you'vedriven more than a few years, you
know what it sounds like when sometruck pulls in front of you on the

(01:18:23):
freeway and you hear that pick thatjust that dreadful sound, and you start
searching your windshield. So anyway,yeah, there's that, and plug them
in and if you do see astreak coming across your windshield, go ahead
and call them right then. Andthey, I'd almost bet you they could
have somebody out. Certainly within fortyeight hours they were able to do that

(01:18:45):
for me. They just say,okay, when you want us to come
out, and yeah, so thereyou have that. Let me go talk
to Longhorn. Longhorns, Scott,what's up, Scott? What happened?
Well, Doug, I'm on myway, uh this morning with my ten
year old daughters. She's a bigsoftball player. We're heading Austin. I
watch this, uh for those ofyou that are aware of it. You

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know the Horns and Aggies are playing. Yes they are. I watched some
of that yesterday. I watched theHorns take care of business. Hopefully I
can get practice, you know,being a family guy very uh, you
know, camning kind of a boringhaving to do stuff. I'm out watering

(01:19:30):
my flowers plant and I'm telling you, I'm out there by myself and there's
not even I don't think there's anyoneelse awake on my block. And all
of a sudden, something watched mein the head, Like I felt like
someone standing behind me and like eitherhit me with like a whip the ball
bat or yeah, they just likeslap the back of my head. Like

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so it's kind of a stunning deal. And I'm looking at you, all
right, who's in the yard withme? I turned around, there's nobody.
I'm thinking maybe my daughter was rankingyeah, somebody messing with you.
Then I'm like, well, dida tree limb fall out of one of
these? Oh? Yeah? AndI had a long and behold. I
look up and I see this hawkcoming in for the second past and I

(01:20:15):
reached back on the back of myhead and it's lee. I'm like,
oh my gown. I'm like,wait, my wife. But I'm like,
babe, I got a situation hereand luckily what what too deep?
But like I mean, you canclearly see where the claws like I mean,
it's just never in my life.I'm fifty one, fifty one and
a half years old in West Houstonwater and pla, oh my word,

(01:20:41):
unreal. And it's a big birdand a candically, I'm thinking tomorrow my
next com be sore. But uhI thought of you because hey, you're
my Saturday Sunday morning. Thank you. Oh wow? Oh wildlife, well,
wildlife encounter right here in what Houston? Oh my gosh, what do
you know what kind of hawk itwas? Could you tell? Well?
No, I Conot was dug thatsecond time. I was like, I

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was looking at it at this point, I thought, well, what,
I'm not that good looking to beginwith. But uh I don't need I
don't need the front to get ruinedas well. But uh, I mean,
you know this head on was nobleed pretty good? Oh yeah,
they do. They're horrible. I'vehad many of them. So I'm riding
in the town here with h NiasBorn, all sweating and oh my world,

(01:21:26):
watch your back, man. Iguess that thirty in the morning is
a bad time to be watering yourpledge. You didn't spin around and turn
the hose on him? Oh hell, I was listen. I'm not gonna
lie. I was a reflex mode. I did. I did a dug
with what left with what I haveleft. Cadillac reflexes they're more like,
you know, swath like reflex.Oh yeah, I hear you, and

(01:21:47):
uh, and I thought, well, you know when I grew up and
down in Yorktown, Texas, andI just would have gotten a shot gun.
Of course, I know it's probablynot legal to kill a hawk,
but right now what my first instinctwas to take care of business to uh,
clearly that wasn't going to be anoption. Whether again, I'm probably
not legal. Anyway, I'm tryingto I would not have done it.
I'm trying to figure out what thathawk thought you were that he was going

(01:22:11):
to be able to pick it upand carry it off. Well, I'll
tell you. I mean I wouldhave been blessed with a pretty good head
of hair. And although there's someslight thinning back there, I don't know
if it looked like a nest.I don't know what it looked like.
It might have been might have lookedI got it figured out, Scott.
If you got a little thinning backthere, it might have looked like a
baby squirrel, been a nest.Yeah, Well, I won't be wearing

(01:22:35):
heads here, and I'll keep akey eye on the sky like word like
you know, like gonna have tohave a little air raids sirens out there
in the backyard. I gotta walkaround with with a bloody scalp, but
a sport shut. What the hellhappened? I don't know where you get

(01:23:00):
I don't know where you get ahawk helmets gott, but you need one.
Maybe there's one on the line.Oh man, that's a great,
that's a that's hilarious. Man.Every day, every day can bring a
new ordeal. Yeah. And youknow what if you were if you'd been
sitting on the couch this morning,you wouldn't have got hitting the head by
a hawk, and then you wouldn'thave this great story to tell there.

(01:23:21):
I go. Oh, man,that that made my day. Scott,
thanks a bunch, man. Yeah, good luck to your longhorns. I'll
see you audios. Oh my word, Oh Melvin, have you ever that's
that's unique. That's the first timewe've ever had somebody who got attacked by

(01:23:43):
a hawk. And I could hesaid he was blessed with this big head
of hair except in the backwards sittingand I can just see that hawk up
there. I see you, babysquirrel, I see you. I'm gonna
get you. Just reaches in andgrabs. There is no baby squirrel,
and now he's got his wings andhis other foot all hung up and all

(01:24:04):
that hair on Scott's head and heflapping trying to get away, and he
came back for a second pass.That's what's amazing. Holy cow, Oh,
that's just way too funny. Man. All right, we gotta take
a break. That's that did.I'll retell that story more than once.

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I can assure you before this dayis dark. CCA's Star Tournament is up
and running. He started off Friday, and they're gonna go all the way
through summer to Labor Day. Andif you are entered, you have a
chance you can fish all summer andtry to win one of those f one
fifties from Ford that comes with aboat package, a motor package, and

(01:24:50):
a trailer all of that, orfive of those. The first five specially
tagged redfish that are caught by entranceto the tournament earn that truck, boat,
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there with other just one hundred plusprizes in seven divisions this year, including

(01:25:13):
well the total value of all thatone point nine million dollars in prizes and
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on, all kinds of good stuffgoing shoal waters in Mustang Cat ABC thirteen.

(01:25:35):
That just the list goes on andon of great sponsors for this tournament
that's been going on now for gosh, I want to say, the better
part of thirty years. I'm notsure Bill Kenny. I was over there
when Kenny was trying to make thisthing something, and he's still over there
grinding, I know, today andmaking sure that the Star Tournament stays live

(01:25:55):
and just gets bigger and better everyyear. Mostly, this our tournament is
a big boost to conservation of ourcoastal resources. CCA has been at it
since the seventies, I know,not the seventies. A little later than
that, I think, but notmuch. When Walter Foonder and a bunch
of his folks, like minded folksdown along the coast, they had great

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interest in redfish and speckl trout,especially the redfish that were just getting hammered
by commercial fishing, and that gottaken care of, and the speckled trout
got taken care of and now CCAhas expanded its efforts in Texas to cover
just about anything and everything you canimagine that has to do with improving these
coastal resources. They don't move fast, but when they do move, they

(01:26:42):
do very good things for our coastalresources. I've been involved with that group
for a very long time, editedthe magazine Tide Magazine for ten years and
really got to understand how that processworks over there, and it works very
well. Coastal Conservation Association Star Tournamentgoing on all summer. Win a scholarship

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up. Star Tournament dot org.Ninety. This is Sports Talk seven ninety
Houston, Sports online at sports sevenninety dot com. Back to the Doug

(01:27:24):
Fike Show. This show's going prettyfast, I would think, wouldn't you,
Melbourn did? Does it feel fastto you, Melboyne? It is
extremely fast. Yeah, always happenson a holiday weekend. It seems like
that. It just kind of getsit gets some momentum, and I get
some good calls, I get somegood emails, and I think the hawk

(01:27:45):
attack may be just the cherry onthe Sunday. This was so cool.
That was just so cool. I'mgonna make notes of that. If I
had his email, i'd send hima picture of the picture of a big
red tail I took out at Blackhawkonce some probably it's been probably four years
ago, three years ago now.I think I took it with my newer

(01:28:08):
phone, so it had to havebeen somewhat recent. I'd say it's about
a three year old photograph. Bigold hawk, all spread out right down
close to the ground too. Itwas just starting to lift off, if
you will, and wings completely spread, and the shot is over its back.
It was very low. I wasabove it actually when I took the

(01:28:30):
photograph, and it's hard to getshots of birds backs like that, and
I was quite happy to get it. And as I've talked about, with
the phones that we have now,are capable of taking excellent photographs if you
just make sure you get the shotfirst and then worry about cropping it and

(01:28:54):
whatever. And that's exactly what Iended up doing. I had to crop
out a couple of power lines thatwere in the back. But if I
had tried to maneuver myself to movethe power lines, or if I'd tried
to manipulate the image and zoom inwith that phone, I wouldn't have gotten
the resolution I got by just goingahead and firing away and then cropping,

(01:29:15):
and I would have missed it altogether. That bird got up and got out
of the way. I got prettyclose to him, and I was able
to get a really nice tight shot. It's not going to blow up to
billboard size, but it's still forsharing on the Internet and sharing with friends
and whatnot. It was a goodimage. Mike waghed in on this Memorial

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Day weekend. My dad lived tobe ninety nine years old, and he
did share numerous stories of his militaryjourney, which was in Germany near the
end of the war. He earneda bronze star for an act of bravery.
But what brought him too tears wassharing a story about the loss of

(01:29:58):
life of German soldiers on the sidesof the roads while they were on the
Munich on the way to Munich,firefights were at night. Mostly His father
recalled and created a certain amount ofguilt in the same breath, though he
said it had to be them orus, and he was absolutely correcting that
if that war had turned out theother way, this world in which we

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live would be nothing like it isright now. He's in heaven, I'm
sure it says here, and maybehe's shaking the hands of the men he
had to fight again. That's whatthe war is, just so messed up,
and I wish we could resolve alot of this stuff, and I
hope we do soon. It's gonnawrap it up. Thanks for the great

(01:30:42):
hawk story from a Longhorn, Thanksfor all of you for thanks to all
of you for participating. And Melvincame up with a very good way to
end this program today on Memorial Dayweekend, and I'm gonna let him go
ahead and start that now after Ithank you all one again for listening.
I'll be back Tuesday as usual forfifty plus on KPRC at noon, and

(01:31:04):
right back here on Saturday. Thestage is yours, Melvin H.