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June 22, 2024 • 135 mins
On this show Doug talks about cast and retrieve vs. fishing. What the difference? Can mullet fish and red fish live in fresh water? Doug tells you how to catch Tarpon fish and what bait to use. Doug talks to Mark Hooker and discuss the fishing program he started at his high school. Plus weather updates and tons of fishing stories. Learn how to figure out the best weight/speed of a rod and where the weight may be located to give you the best fishing rod action. Golf updates and info. on Remington 870 and 1100 shotguns.
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This is the Doug Pike Show,brought to you by American Shooting Centers Guns
Shooting at Instruction since nineteen eighty nine. Now here's Doug Pike. All right.
Here we go on yet another absolutelygorgeous day, beautiful day outside,
beautiful day. Yet another one that'sgoing to pass without me getting my new

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roof yet. I had some wellthat's an ongoing saga, and I've been
talking about it for a long timethat the last time we tried to do
this, of course, the raincame into the forecast. I think it
was. It was ahead of hangon, I'm trying to move something so
I can see it better. Here, there we go. That's good.
Where did I put this piece ofpapers down? By thirty seconds or ten

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seconds? Yeah, surprise, I'mback early. So anyway, the first
time we were going to get theroof done, Skeeter Brawn and I the
forecast looked really, really bad,so we postponed. And since that postponement,
I don't I don't know that it'srained more than three drops at my
house. We could have done theroof on any other day in that period

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since from then to now, butwe didn't because he had other things he
had to do. He had otherjobs on the books, but that one
that was this past Monday, aweek ago, supposed to get it done,
then didn't get it done, thendidn't get rained till Thursday. And
so now fingers crossed, we havea new date planned. And I'm not
even gonna say it out loud becauseI don't want to jinx it, but

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I hope it gets done. Andthen there are other house house projects I've
tried I'm trying to get done,none of which is free. By the
way, if you're not a homeowneryet and you're looking forward to owning a
home, save up some more money. First. I'll just say that,
holy cow, I've been hemorrhaging dollarbills. Uh well, not many ones,

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a lot more than that checks withcommas nmos are always fun to write
on something that you get zero pleasurefrom. It's just your it's just your
house. Anyway, We're getting alittle break along the coast, by the
way, from extremely high tides thatwere pushed here by the system that went
into Mexico earlier in the week,the one that was supposed to just bring

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downpours and the one that didn't tothis area. And so that's why I
still have the same roof I hadon. I don't know how many years
ago we put it on. Itdoesn't matter. The bottom line is the
water came up several feet in someareas along the coast, and there was
there was sand dune damage. Therewas flooding in lower well really in pretty

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much any building along the coast wherethere was no there were no sticks on
which it sat. A lot ofthese, even a lot of these homes
along the coast, they'll tend tohave a room downstairs aside from parking the
car underneath the house, which isall up. They're all up on stilts,
so they should be anyway, bigtall stilts keep them out of the

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major flooding part. But you endup having some sort of little tool room
or a tackle room, or justa day room where the kids keep all
their play toys that they take tothe beach, anything you don't want to
drag into the house. And whensomething like this comes along, even though
it didn't come anywhere near making landfallin Texas, boy it sure made a

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mess all the way up to here, not much east of here, but
it sure made a mess. Twothree feet of water in those little buildings
you don't realize. It's kind oflike when Harvey hit here there. I
was out in sugar Land clearly,and they were just telling me. I
was getting alerts on my phone tellingme I was gonna have two to three

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feet of water in my house.And so at that point you got to
start looking around and asking yourself,what are you willing to carry upstairs?
And how fast can you do itand where are you going to put it?
You can just run something up tothe top of the stairs and then
set it down and run back down, because three trips and you won't be
able to get past the pile youmade. And I don't as much as

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it would be fun to own abeach house, it's in systems like this
where you got to get that wakeup call and maybe it's not as fun
as it. Maybe I could justrent one a week of summer, and
that's an option as well, butit's sure is cool. I would like
to have that option pop down tomy beach house. It's just not it's
not in my cars right now,and maybe it will be someday, but

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it's not right now. Doesn't matter. I still get to go when I
want to go seven one three twoone two five seven ninety Email me Dougpike
at iHeartMedia dot com. We've gotthis. I don't know sitting where I
said about sixty miles inland from theGulf of Mexico as the crow flies.

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I'm not sure what's better or worserising salt water from a tropical storm or
tropical system that wasn't even a tropicalbut barely made Alberto the tropical storm,
but that was They just kind ofricocheted off having a name and then fell
apart. So you have that option, and then you have these major rain

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events that pour water, all thefresh water all the way through our base
system. Honestly, as somebody wholoves saltwater fishing as much as I do,
I would much prefer that we justget some high tides from salt water
and then let those high tides recedeand get back to doing whatever we were
doing. A major runoff of freshwater really really boogers things up. It

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really does. The fish. Thespeckled trout can't live in freshwater. Redfish
can. And I've got proof ofthat I'll tell you about in just a
minute. And it's not Lake caliberisor anything like that. Either this is
this is local proof that redfish canlive in fresh water. I'll go ahead
and go to that story. Soabout was it yesterday? Before yesterday?

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My son sends me a picture andI haven't seen it all. I'm just
out hitting golf balls or doing somethinglate in the afternoon, and he finally
he calls me and says, hey, have you looked at your text yet?
He said no. He goes,go ahead and take a look.
I pull out my phone. Iopen it up. Sure enough, there's
an attachment to a text he sentme, and it's about a I don't

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know, eighteen to twenty inch redfish. It's kind of dirty looking,
it's got grass all over it,and it's clearly been dragged up the bank
because he doesn't know how to justlift even well, I fish that size
at his age all by well,he was with a buddy of his,
but anyway I might have done thatrather than risk breaking it off. But

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the bottom line is he caught thisfisharly a redfish. I posted a picture
of it to my Facebook page thismorning, clearly a redfish. He was
about as the crow flies, abouta mile and a half west of the
West Loop and about two miles northof the Galleria where he caught that fish.

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He and his buddy riding around lookingfor water between two friends' houses and
all they see this play say weought to try to fish here, and
they pull over and it's on BuffaloBio. There were a couple of other
people fishing there, a family,he said, that were down the bank
aways, but these two knuckleheads justwalk up there. My son's first cast

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feels something popp it. Damn oooh, I got something. What do you
know? What is this? Heimmediately assumed, because he kind of halfway
knows what he's doing. He said, no, it's got to be a
catfish, right, pretty good catfish. It's not coming up and jumping,
so's there's got to be a catfishor a drum, maybe big drum.
All of a sudden, here comesthis thing with a spot on it,
Like holy cow. Couldn't wait totake a picture. He did. He

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sent it to me, his sontook or his friend took the picture.
Cut my son's head completely off ofthe picture. But the fish, we
know what it is clearly, andno, it did not have a tag
hit it. Ceca didn't try topull a fast one and plant a tournament
fish for the Star tournament halfway upBuffalo Bio. I don't know how far

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that fish was from the Gulf ofMexico, or even from even from the
base system, but it's got tobe a good forty man maybe not forty
miles over to the ship channel.But however far it is, it's way
far for that redfish to have beengoing that long, that far in the
wrong direction, or maybe it wasthe right direction. Who knows. Maybe

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he was ready for a change.Maybe that fish was ready for a change.
I've heard a good bit of talkrecently, by the way, about
the numbers of trout that are alreadybeing seen and dealt with by way of
catching and releasing. Not necessarily allkeeper trout, minds you, but just

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lots of fish, and more sothan a lot of people would have thought
coming out of where we've come outof, which is a necessity. The
Parks and Wallete Department determined that weneeded to reduce our retention of speckled trout
to three a day. A lotof people didn't like it. A whole

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lot of people didn't like that idea. I was not among those people.
I was among the people who areof the mindset that it is way better
to be conservative today than to wonderwhere all the trout went tomorrow, because
we were perilously close to repeats ofa couple of a couple of major,

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horrible population reductions thanks to weather thatI've been through around here and seeing.
I've seen how few speckl trout therecan be in the bay, and I've
seen them recover from that, andI'm in wholehearted agreement with the Parks and
Wilife Department's decision to reduce that limitand to change the size limit so that

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there will be a whole lot morefish in years to come. And it's
premature, I think, to say, oh this is this is really working.
It's been successful, but early indicationsit's kind of like polling in politics.
You can't say for sure whether it'sgoing to be right, but it

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sure looks like it's going in thatdirection. And this sure looks like it's
going in the direction of not onlyrecovering the speckl trout population of where it
was, but enhancing it so thatfuture weather events, future whatever natural disasters
or man made disasters before this populationthey're gonna be all right. They're gonna

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be all right. And it remindsme a little bit, honestly of good,
good years a long time ago back. This is when I was a
young reporter at the newspaper, whena lot of the best guides on the
Texas coast were inviting me to getin their boats, and I have them.
I will be forever grateful to everyone of those guys who let me

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fish with them, because I learneda bunch I thought I could fish,
I really did. I thought Icould fish. Turns out all I knew
how to do was cast and retrieve. And there's a big difference between casting
and retrieving and fishing. The secretto fishing is knowing where the fish are.
And those guys, anybody who makesa living at this is light years

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better than most amateurs, unless they'reretired and fishing every day, just like
these guides have to do to earntheir living. And anybody who's retired and
doing that really has not that muchto lose. If they can't find fish
for a couple of days, they'llstill eat. They're retired, they've got
some money, they've got a boat, got a beach house. All those
things with a fishing guid. Afishing guid has to have his boat working,

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he has to have he has tobe able to get on the water
he or she, and that's noteasy. So for every one of you
guys out there, any of youwho might be listening this morning, who
have ever allowed me to get onyour boat with you and go fishing,
thank you, seriously. I learnedso much, and now I'm trying desperately
to I'm starting with little kids andgoing up to adults. Anybody who's never

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caught a fish called me, I'lltell you where to go catch one.
I'm doing my best on that.It turns out that while I know I
am a hunder cent sure, there'sa lot of water that's fishable out there
everywhere around the Greater Houston area outbelt Way eight. I know it's out
there, but some regions I knowbetter than others. So every now and
then I'll ask you for help onwhere to send people. But as to

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how to catch those fish, it'spretty simple. We got to take a
little break here on the way out. I'll tell you about American shooting centers
all the way. Well, Isay all the way, it's not that
far. It's on West tim OrParkway between Katie and Highway six. Very
easy to find. You cannot missthose big berms they rise. They rise
from the floor of the Attics reservoir, which is dry by the way right

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now. Thank goodness. It's abeautiful area, a beautiful facility. The
largest non military shooting facility in thestate of Texas. And there are some
big ones, believe me. There'sa big one over in San Antonio,
big ones up around Dallas, butthis one's the biggest of the non military
places. How big is it?Three sporting clays courses. I think it's

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ten trap and skeet fields. Ithas five stands setups here there and everywhere
around the property. There's a beginner'swing shooting area. And then for the
pistol and rifle shooting, you startat five yards and if you're tough enough
and you have a good enough rifleand good enough hand loads maybe or some

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favorite cartridge of the rifle, youwant to shoot out that far all the
way to six hundred yards. Sixhundred yards. It is an extremely safe
environment in which to shoot. Ifyou don't like your results, if you're
not hitting bull's eyes, if you'renot breaking targets, get some instruction.
They've got plenty of professional instructors outthere who will go one on one with

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you or in a group setting.I guess you could probably bring four or
five people out there and get agood shotgunning lesson. That'd be fun.
Mostly, what they want is foryou to have a good, safe time
enjoying the shooting sports. That's allit is. American Shooting Centers dot com
is a website. Go check itout there. Very safe, very user
friendly. American Shooting Centers dot com. We are Sports Talk seven ninety.

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Listen online at sports seven ninety dotcom. Now more Doug Fike My welcome
back Doug Pike Show on Sports Talkseven nineties. Who sings that? Oh

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yeah, okay, I've heard ofhim. Contemporary kind of a guy.
Huh pretty good, Pretty good,I'm told. All right, let's get
back to business. Uh, Joel'sbeen waiting a while. Okay, we're
gonna get a drum roll in there. Hold on, see if it works
this morning? Of course, notstandby, help me out, Melbourne.

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There we go, Joel, what'sup, buddy? Thanks for having me.
First of all, congrats to yourson, how about that that red
flash up in Buffalo Bow. Icouldn't believe it. I grew up in
Texas City and lived there for aboutfifty five years. Oh wow. And
we had a drainage canal across thestreet from my house, and I would

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catch mudfish and little finger mullet,you know in mento trap. Sure,
And I had an aquarium in thehouse and I would just run. It
was a freshwater aquarium, and thoselittle finger mullet and mudfish did just grat
in there. Yeah, they don'thave any trouble some fish. Well yeah,

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go ahead. Well, you knowI was a kid, so I
didn't know any better. But youknow, as I grew older, I
did have some saltwater tanks. Butyou know, those little mudfish and little
finger mullet did just grat in there. Yeah, there are mullet up and
down braze Bio. I can attestto that from back when Joe Doggitt and

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I were fly fishing for grasscarp inthere. There's all kinds of schools of
mullet. And by wow. Theother thing was about the trout limit and
size limit ar you know, whenI was a kid again, you know,
the size limit on redfish was fourteeninches. Gosh, I do remember

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that, yeah, way back when. But look at all the good red
fish schools that are out there now, well they are out there now.
That's a tremendous recovery story that goesall the way back to the seventies when
they were just borderline extinct. Iknow it, and you know. So
it goes to show it can work. Sure, it's just people have to

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believe in it and do it.And to be honest, I don't understand
the love affair with trout that much. I'd much rather eat a twenty two
inch red fish than a trout anyday. But that's just me. That's
all right. You know, somefor everybody, something for everybody, Joe,

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that's true, Yes, sir,And that was pretty much it.
All right, thank you. Iappreciate the call, all right, bet
audios. Okay, so let mesee if I can oh mess this all
up? Help me, Melvin,There we go, Thank you. Seven
one three two one two five sevenninety Email me Doug Pike at iHeartMedia dot
com. Oh my gosh, Ipushed a button in here. Oh close,

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okay, good. I didn't knowwhat was going to happen. There.
I was a little scared. Yeah, mullet can live in fresh water.
Redfish can live in fresh water,and they they acclimate pretty I guess.
I don't know whether I can't sayquickly or not because I don't know,
but they are certainly capable of acclimatingto that environment. Bull Sharks also

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capable of swimming upstream and having theirway with freshwater fish once they get there,
just chomping them all up. Butit was it has to be anomalous
that a redfish made it north ofthe galleria. That's that's a pretty good

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swim. That's a pretty good swim. And like Melvin and I were laughing
a little while ago, let's fishwakes up every day going I'm driving past
houses. I'm still driving past houses, but I can't find mine. He's
a long ways long way from home. Some one three, two, one

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two five seven nine. Email onme, Doug pick Adiheartmedia dot Com at
eight o'clock. By the way,in case you were thinking about wandering off.
At eight o'clock, I'm gonna interviewa man I've known for the better
part of I don't know, fifteentwenty years. A guy I fished for
bass width several times when he wasworking his way up in intention of becoming

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a big time professional bass fisherman,he stayed in teaching and he as it
turns out, that has been afantastic calling for him because what he did
in the school district where he worksis institute bass fishing for the high school

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kids. He was one of thefirst to organize bass fishing for high schools
around here. His name's Mark Hooker, which is an interesting name for a
guy in fishing, would have beena great name for a professional bass fisherman.
It was for quite some time,very good at what he does.
He knows the fish. He's actuallylooking at some new horizons moving forward.

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But what he did for local andin many ways what he did for the
kids that he teaches over there isphenomenal. And I want to share his
story through his recollection and a littlebit of mine, because, like I
said, we did we did sharesome boat time, we did share some

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fishing time, and yeah, wegot on some pretty good water too.
Okay, let's see if we canget it working now, Melvin, hold
on, I'm going to take anotherswing at it. Hang on, Nope,
never mind putting back on hold herewe go, Matthew, I got
you. Now, what's up,buddy? Hey Doug, how you doing,
budd? I'm great. Well,I'm fishing the Banana River as we

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speak. But you talk about outof the way fishing spots, there's a
little spillway in the woodlands. Mybrother and I come home from church.
We always argue about whether or notthere's any fishing there. One day,
on the way home from academy,I decide, Man, I'm gonna try
out this new top water. Ijust thought, seele works boom, first
cast cut the biggest bass freshwater bassI ever caught. You know, that's

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so true. I keep telling peoplethey're fair and now, granted, catching
your biggest ever out of a placelike that, you that's probably not gonna
happen. But there are fish inso many places, and there's such obscure
little places that they really don't getthat much pressure. But if you can
find one of those, and youcan keep people from seeing what you're catching

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and throwing back, you can justyou can have a lot of fun with
those fish for a very long timeto come. That was in the woodland
somewhere. Don't tell me where exactly, right, we don't want to draw
a crowd. There's a little drainageditch near where I live, now,
Yeah, a little, and it'sa decent size. And I'm not lying
to you. There are some threefoot turpin cruising around in that, in
that drainage ditch. Three foot.I guess don't know how to get them,

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because every more I throw in there, the turtles go after it.
Yeah, yeah, that's tough.That gosh, what part of town is
that in? Well? I livein Florida. Now, oh okay,
Yeah, when you said Banana River, I was gonna call foul. But
okay, now that I know whereyou are, because I know where the
Banana River is, Hou's fishing overthere by the way lately. Yeah,

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I'm fishing is not bad. I'mcatching a lot of jacks, believe it
or not, out my baby netthe other night and threw him pulled up
three jacks. I'm just thrown outfrom mullet, pulled in three jacks.
But the fishing, the fishing isreal good. But I can't wait to
get back to castle. I'll tellyou one little tarpin story in this.
If you're having trouble with turtle,what are the turtles doing just they're grabbing

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your plugs or just eating your broat. What happens. What happens is,
yeah, they're they're doing everything.What happens is we get a couple of
ladies around here that come and seethe turtle. Oh no, and there's
a big old gator in that littlepond too. Holy cow. Howp the

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tarpeter about three feet? I wouldsay, it's tough to tell, but
I'd say at least three feet.And what lures are you throwing at them?
I'm throwing the top water plugs.Do yourself a favor, Go get
go, buy a couple of doa shrimp and you can. You can
either just throw them out there andjust reel them very slowly, or you

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could actually put one under a corkeven and the tarpain might eat it.
I would do that. The onlytime I can remember having to deal with
tarpin that I knew were there.I could see him and all of that
stuff was down in the Cayman Islandsonce and there was a little kid outside
my bungalow fishing in this little tidalpool that had washed out in a hurricane

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or something. Anyway it was.It was landlocked now right right on the
beach, though, and he wasthrowing dough balls and catching these little fish
that were like a foot and ahalf long. And I couldn't see from
where I was what he was catching, and I couldn't help myself. I
walked down there, and he's catchingthese little teeny tarpin man on dough balls,
and so I couldn't I couldn't getto the store fast enough to buy

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a rod and reel man. Itwas fun, rod and real. Thank
you. I appreciate you for listening. Appreciate it. Yes to thank you.
I appreciate Matthew audios. All right, let's take care of that.
Holy okay, we got Florida cover. Now that's good. We got Florida,
Georgia, California, New York,yep. And if you're listening for

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many I had Kentucky for a longtime. I don't know if he still
listens. It's a fun. It'sit's just fun to talk about fishing this
way. And I like getting theinteraction and the different ideas from different places
because what I learned through twenty threeyears well instill of going fishing in other
places. I'm fishing. I thinkit's like thirty states something like that.

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I don't know how many kind oflost count, honestly. And what I
learned is that everywhere you go thereis something that you can learn from the
people who are fishing where you've gone. And conversely, when people come here
to fish and have never fished herebefore and we happen to wind up in

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the same boat or on the samebeach or pier or whatever, I'm going
to ask them how they're approaching whatthey're having to do here, because it's
brand new to them, just likeit was to me going and fishing striped
bass in Chesapeake Bay or fishing whateverwherever throughout the middle of the country,
rainbow trout in the mountains. Boy, you talk about a different style of

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fishing altogether. All these different placesI got to go and all these different
fish I got to catch, Butthere was this mutual respect I had for
the people I was fishing with andthey for me, knowing that we each
could learn something from each other,and it really it really works out well.
If you go in with any preconceivednotion about fishing, it's kind of

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like the notion that somebody in Markand I talked about this. Yesterday,
Mark Hooker talked about how it washard for them to get the state High
School Bass Fishing Championship to Lake Conroebecause the people who run that thing kept
saying that that would be an advantagefor the kids who live here. Not

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really ask any true longtime professional bassfishermen what happens when you're fishing home water
issue. Instead of looking at itobjectively for the specific week you're going to
be fishing, you're thinking, well, gosh, maybe I ought to go
over to Xyz Point because fourteen yearsago I lost some really big fish off

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of there. I think it wasabout this time of year. So you
have these things stuck in your headthat you can't let go of because you
have such a history on a place, you can't look at it objectively anyway.
What I've got to look at isthe clock, and I am two
and a half minutes late to tellyou about black Horse Golf Club. Two
ninety to Fry Road. Hang USsouth and about three miles down that road.

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Down Fry Road, you'll start seeinggolf course on the right hand side,
on the west side of the road. Drive a little farther, you're
going to see golf course on thosesides of the road, and that's when
you need to put your right blinkeron, pull into the gate at black
Horse and head for the pro shop. Once you get in that pro shop,
pretty much anybody you bump into betweenthen and the time you come off

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the eighteenth Green is gonna want nothingmore than for you to have a good
time. Make sure you're fed andwatered and happy and everything's going your way.
That they're not going to come outand swing the clubs for you,
that's on you, but the overallexperience is on them, and they everybody
who works at black Horse Golf Clubwants to make sure you're having a good

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time. If you're a swing needshelp, you can go to the far
end of the range and get professionalinstruction from some of the best in the
business. There are a lot ofpeople down there who have been there a
very long time because they're very goodat what they do. A membership option
is available. That membership option getsyou preferred tea times, it gets you
discounts in the pro shop, andit gets you unlimited range time, which

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is a very valuable thing. Ifyour game is occasionally in a shambles like
mine always is, You just gotto keep hitting balls. If you hit
enough balls and you have a goodswing thought in your head, eventually you'll
hit enough of them that that goodswing becomes the habit, and the bad
swing goes away, and you jointhe PGA Tour and you make a jillion

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dollars. Wake up, Doug.Black Horsegolf Club dot com is a website.
You can go set your tea timeright there, right now, black
Horse Golf Club dot com. Yourrockets and astros live here. We are
Sports Talk seven ninety. The conversationcontinues this as The Dog Pike Show,
seven ninety, The Dougpike Show.Thanks for listening. Certainly do appreciate it.

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I just send a response to anemail in all caps because that's how
I do my prep work, justto make it easier on me for some
reason. So and it was afriendly It was a friendly response anyway,
so hopefully and the person who receivedit knows better. I'm not. I'm
not one of those yelling at allcaps whatever that is. Uh Dan,

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Yeah, I gotta. When Italked about that redfish being halfway up Buffalo
Bio, I got more than oneemail, Melvin from listeners letting me know
that that redfish identified as something else. They just can't help themselves. Man,
Oh, let's go. Let's gotalk to Brandon first click him in.

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Hey Brandon, what's up man?Good morning Brandon? How did you
How did you feel about the Astroslast night? They scare you, no,
but we won. They scared mea little bit. It would have
been if they had, I toldMelvin a little while ago, if they
had blown on eleven run lead withwhat six outs left to go, they

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you could have heard a pin dropin minute, made for the next month.
But they did it. They gotit done. They handled their business
and gave up a few bombs alongthe way. But it is what it
is. So what's up this morning? I'm just about to get up and

(31:08):
have some coffee, but I havebut I have to like fishing or fishing
for you? I think you goahead go fishing here in the world.
But fantastic today. Are you goingtoday or just kind of soon? Right?

(31:29):
Are you going today? Or soon? Okay? Good? Good?
You know I want to I wantto see pictures of the fish you catch.
Man. My granda, the grandpaheats like meat fishing. Oh he
did. How'd y'all do good.We we caught a fish. Fishes.

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That's fantastic, Brandon. I'm soglad to hear that man's a trout.
Well well done, very well done. Hey, I got to run catch
Dave. Okay, I want tocatch you before the break, all right,
buddy, Yeah you too, mango astros huh? All right,
all right, let's go get toDave here. See what's up, Dave?

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What's up? My friend? Hey, Brandon, one fish is better
than being skunked? Boy, isn'tthat the true? I thought I was
gonna get skunked the other day.Honestly, I fished for about I don't
well at fifteen minutes. It's notlike I gave it a lot, but
I wasn't happy with the way mygolf game was going. There's probably nobody
on the planet who's played the firstfive holes where I play more than I

(32:40):
have because on the fifth hole downthe entire fairway is a lake full of
bass, and it's it's almost impossiblefor me to get to the green without
stopping. Yeah, late in theafternoon, I'm you know, there's hardly
anybody out there, and I'll hitmy drive and even if it's in the
middle of the fairway. I'll drivedown to the edge of the lake,

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buy my golf ball and make afew casts, and then after that you
let us walk out and pick upmy ball and just just presume I would
have made a birdie. I gotyou. Hey, I want to send
prayers out to I never got tomeet him in person myself, but Mark
Chestnut and he had to have somehearts hurt. I didn't know that.

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Yeah, I heard about it theother day on the radio, and you
know, he did Too Cold atHome, and I can't believe that.
You know, I recorded it atsound Masters where he recorded, and when
they were taking pictures of me recording, there was this platinum album in the
cassette and the CD are Too Coldat Home behind me. I didn't even
know it was there. Yeah,anyway, Yeah, yeah, God speed

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for him, and hopefully you getand he'll be okay. Hey, the
doctors we got today, they knowpretty much what they're doing. And I
was going to talk about, youknow, possum or old possum. I
can't believe we got to put ohin front of it. But uh,
the pauseum like the auto parts store, o'reiley. It used to just be

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Riley okay, okay, anyway,you know, uh well, I don't
remembery. I told you I gotsome six and eight inch water back here
in the back, and I foundone in the back. I guess he
didn't make it. But they areour friends because they eat insects, they
eat row, they eat rats andstuff like that. So you know,

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but they are you know, they'rethey're good. I can't believe we still
got so many of them here twelveminutes from downtown, you know. And
uh yeah, so anyway, Uh, I'm just I'm happy to see him.
I hadn't seen any raccoons around herelately. But then oh and then

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please again, I told you amillion I said there a million times.
Don't feed the animals in parking lote. Boy, isn't that the truth?
Man? It's like a death trap. Yeah, Like when Joel was talking
about somebody feed or Matthew was talkingabout somebody feeding the turtles in a lake.

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Just stop it, you know,just stop it. Don't feed these
animals. That makes them dependent onyou for food. That's the same with
deer, with any other wildlife.You shouldn't be feeding them at all.
They need to be on their own. The strong ones will survive. So
yeah, I'm with you, buddy. If you want to feed an animal,

(35:37):
go to the zoo and talk tothe people in the commentsary over there.
Let them let you tow something outthere for the sea lions or something
like that. Yeah. Really go, yeah, go to the zoo and
spend what five probably ten dollars nowfor a handful of little sardines to throw

(35:58):
at them and a little towel towipe your hands with after you pick up
all those fish. All right,buddy, I appreciate you, mane.
Yeah, my pleasure, Thank you, Dave he thank audios all right seven
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(36:21):
dot com. It's very simple.By the way, day or Dan just
weighed in asking me what when Iposted that picture of my son's redfish on
Facebook. I also noted that hecaught his pb a large mouth a day
before that, but not from thesame spot, And Dan was wondering what

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that peeb stood for. That ispersonal best and it was. It was
a significant fish, long and longand sort of fat. It wasn't super
fat, but it was. Itwas a thick fish and long enough that
it. Yeah, it was significant, it really was. I wish you'd
have waited or measured it somehow.Getting to start carrying little tape measure with
him. That's an easy thing todrop in a pocket on a fishing trip

(37:05):
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real evidence when you lay that picturedown, or lay that fish down,
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sports do seven nineties Houston Sports Whereyou Go with iHeartRadio Now now get more
Douge on Sports Talk seven ninety TheDoug Pike Show, Melbourne lets me know
that that was a request from guitarDave. That's an old song, right
there? Is it? Do youhave any idea when it was recorded?

(39:22):
Melbourne? Does the show in whatyou're looking at? No, I don't
see it. Okay, don't worryabout It's just we'll just go with a
long time ago. Yeah, verylong time ago, back when Dave and
the dinosaurs roamed the earth. It'ssays something about published in nineteen forty.

(39:43):
That's that's a long time ago.That's longer ago than I thought. It
was. Uh, back to theweather for just a minute, right up
until yesterday and maybe even last night. I didn't didn't watch the news yesterday
evening. I was too busy swattinggnats and trying to get away from them.

(40:04):
And nats and I have a veryone sided relationship. If I can
get a swat on them, I'mgoing to I guarantee you, because I
puff up like a toad frog whenthey bite me. I don't know whether
I dislike them or cormorants more,but they're they're pretty much both on about
the same level with me. Sevenon three two one, two, five

(40:24):
seven nine Email me Doug pick At. iHeartMedia dot Com. I brought those
systems up, those storms up forgood reason. The one that was supposed
to maybe possibly in theory, causeus some issues next week is just about
to make landfall down in the Bayof Campeache. And by the way,

(40:49):
if you're a if you're a televisionnews caster and you're not in Spanish,
is not your first or second lange, which don't try to pronounce those words.
It's so sad when these people tryto pronounce his Spanish words in Spanglish

(41:12):
and just butcher them. I justlet them go. Just just say it.
Just go with the phonetic pronunciation.Just do your best. Hooked on
phonics, man, just say it. Say it how it looks campeachy.
You can say that. That's fine. And next week we're gonna work on
kirkandaal and what's streets around here thereare hard to pronounce in any event.

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The one down there in the bayway down there is about to make landfall,
and its possibility of becoming something inthe next two weeks zero, well
it says near zero, just onthat outside weirdo chance but zero. The
other one, the one on theeast coast that were there was one model
that showed it actually hopping over Floridaand coming into the Gulf of Mexico.

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Still it shows as a fifty chanceof development. Still, however, the
X is either right on the Georgiacoast or slightly inland already, so nothing
to see in the Gulf of Mexico, probably after today, and they'll take

(42:21):
those exit. They'll certainly take thatlittle yellow ex down after today, maybe
even by this afternoon. And theone that's going in on the East coast,
everybody north of there, South Carolinais gonna get the same thing we
got from the one that went inlast week. They're gonna get high tides,
they're gonna get good surfing waves,and that's gonna be about it.

(42:43):
And a bunch of rain. Justwell, we didn't get a bunch of
rain from that thing. That's whyI don't have a new roof. They
said we were gonna get a bunchof rain. That's why I don't have
a new roof. They said wewere gonna get a bunch of rain,
but we didn't. I and theforecasters were not on good terms this week.
I'll tell you that straight up.And I don't yeah, probably never
will be. It's just it's Iget frustrated when I even talk about the

(43:07):
way forecasting has become just as sensationalas the news headlines draws me nuts.
Let's get Steve A on the phonefor I have to take a break.
Steve O. There he is,STEVEO, what's up? Man, Good
morning, sir. How is everythinggoing in your world? Most of it?
Almost everything's going great. Soon asI got that roof, I'll be

(43:29):
better. Still, what's up?I hear you? Man? I just
wanted to wish my son Cash happyfourteenth birthday today. Fourteen. No,
man, that's a man. Hegrew a foot and a half in the
last year, no doubt. Yeah. They we went out Saturday and killed
some red fish over and get WestBay and galves to that a place called

(43:52):
crash Boat Basin and they, hey, do you that's a great spot.
Also, he's getting a brand newtwenty gauge punk shotgun today and we're gonna
surprise him make the gun range.Oh nice, were happy man? Good
for you? Good for him,very good man. He deserves it.

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What guns you get him? Actually, my cousin bought her. I believe
it's Remington, just like seven eightseventy. There you go, but it's
a twelve games pump. So thosethe best guns in the world that you
know what. The original eight seventywing Masters were probably the best all around

(44:35):
shotgun ever built. And that nowRemington will tell you that the eleven hundred
was the most popular shotgun because itwas a semi auto and still is.
But that eight seventy man as aas a hunting guy, and as anybody
who really hunted waterfowl a lot,and knew the damage that could be done
to guns and the hell they wouldgo through trying to get through two or

(44:58):
three or ten or twenty season.Man, they built that gun just almost
bulletproof. It was amazing stuff wedid. You used mine for a pry
bar. I used it for apaddle awe man, you name it,
every everything and shot gun probably hada guy conservatively one hundred thousand rounds that

(45:19):
you and I've still got that gun. It's crazy. Just like you bought.
I got to do a deal withwith Waterfowl Specialties and Ducks Unlimited down
at at El Campo last year fiveof us, I think it was,
went out and did two days ofgoose hunting down there, and I took
that gun with me on that hunttoo. It's still it still goes bang

(45:40):
and the birds still fall. Ifyou ever have an open spot for a
duck trip, you let me know. Got it, Steve, Thanks man,
congratulating, Yeah, thanks for thecall. What's his name, Yes,
sir, Stephen Cash Cash Cash tellhim. I said, hello,
will you all right? Boss?Yeah? Audios? Holy cow, Cash's

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birthday fourteen. I remember when myson turned fourteen, I really do.
It wasn't that long ago. He'ssixteen and changed now though, I need
to Okay, Yeah, we'll dothis when we get back, Melbyn,
Well, I'm gonna talk to Feltonfirst, Ascipi piel Hole through the break.
We'll go to it right now,and then while I'm talking to Felton,
you can get Mark on the phoneand it's all gonna work out great.

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We're gonna take a little break here. When we get back, I'll
wrap up with Felton, see what'sgoing on for him, and then we're
gonna talk to Mark Hooker, theguy who ten years ago thought, you
know, it'd be a great ideato get high school kids into bass fishing
on a little bit higher level thanthey're at right now. And he turned
a little idea into a really bigprogram. And I'm thrilled to be able

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to talk to him. We'll takea little break here, we'll be right
back. The Dugpike Show on SportsTalk seven ninety This it is the Doug
Pike Show, brought to you byAmerican Shooting Centers guns shooting at instruction since
nineteen eighty nine. Now here's DougPike. Second hour of the program starts

(47:12):
right now. Thank you all verymuch for listening. I certainly do appreciate
it. On this pretty darned nice, actually pretty darn nice Saturday morning,
when's not just howling for a change, relatively light. I see a twelve.
There's a twelve at surfside, ninemiles an hour at the past,

(47:34):
single digits all throughout the entire GalvesonBay system, and actually only fifteen miles
an hour all the way down thereat Port Ransas, a little bit less
at corpus So and on shore too, which there may be some clean water
trying to creep up on that beach. I honestly didn't have time this morning
to look at the tide schedule andwhatnot, and I can't seem to get

(47:58):
saltwater recon to load for me soI could see a live view with the
snapshot I'm looking at doesn't look terribleat all. Let me get to Felton
and then we'll head over and talkto Mark Hooker. But I promised Felton
if he'd hang on I'd talked tohim. So what's up, Felton,
what's going on? Man? Hey, good morning, Doug. I had
a question for you, just startingto get into fishing. I was hoping

(48:20):
to try to get some advice ontrying to find someone like a captain or
a charter to take us out inGalveston. Yeah, there's a bunch of
there, I tell you. Butrather than try to answer, just first,
can you if you got access toemail today? Yes, sir,
Okay, shoot me an email andjust kind of let me know your expectations

(48:44):
and whether you want to throw luresor bait or you don't care, and
then I can make a couple ofrecommendations that way, because it sounds we
could. Yeah, there'd be alot of questions. I'd want to quiz
you before I said, okay,call this guy, because some of the
guy in Galveston, we'll take youout there with a bucket full of live
croakers and they'll they'll catch some troutthat way. Others are going to want

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to throw lures, and it's alittle it's a little more. It's a
different experience altogether, and I kindof need to know your experience level,
what your expectations are, and thenI can also in that same email just
let you know the questions to askthat guide once you get him on the
phone, to make sure, becauseif you're going to spend six eight hours

(49:28):
in the boat with a guy withnowhere to go, you can't jump off
and swim. Yeah, you wantto make sure you're laugh at the same
jokes, you know, definitely,Okay, Yeah, Doug Pike at iHeartMedia
dot com. And I'll try andI'll try and knock it out right after
I get off the show. Awesso much, you bet, thanks,

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I'll see. All right, let'sget Mark Hooker on the phone. I
got to talk to him. Makethat happen. Mark, you there,
man, Yes, all right,how you been? Well? I know
how you been. Never mind,you couldn't be better. I don't think
could you. If I were you, I would well yeah, okay,
well we'll talk later. So Isaw that Facebook post from a couple of

(50:10):
days ago about you and the incredible, incredible high school fishing program you started
what ten years ago? I didn'trealize it had that many miles on it,
honestly, but take me back,take me back, Mark to the
day you decided as a high schoolteacher that you needed a fishing club to

(50:31):
get these kids on a better trackto really enjoy the outdoors. Well,
I gotta got into it by ayoung man named Blake Teasdale, you know,
at Orange swoggled Intomery's high school campusin two thousand and nine. I
showed up on of course, Iyou know, had a wrap truck and

(50:55):
boat that looked like uh, youknow, box going down the road.
And so these kids were just ashipley donut. But yeah, at me
like ducks on June bug. Youknow, want me to hey, hey,
we could absolutely in team. Andhey, Tom, hey Mark,
do me a favorite call right back? Because your phone line is breaking up,
bad, bad, bad bad,So just hang up, call back

(51:16):
or Melbourne call him back. Okay, yeah, just hang up and let
Melbourne call you back. Yeah,let's do that because it's just clicking.
And I don't want I don't wantto miss any of this because I got
some pretty important questions I want toask him, and some accolades i'll throw
on him. He's a good dude, he really is a man. I
got that taken care of. Igot that taken care of. I got

(51:38):
care I gotta find out. I'ma boy over and George is doing with
that little storm trying to get inthere. I don't that's gonna be.
It's gonna be much like the onethat we just experience. It it probably
they'll probably get about what corpus andmaybe Porta Ransas Scott uh, and hopefully
it'll be a non event. Okay, fire him up, let's go.

(52:01):
Let's try the technology this time.See if it's any better, any better
moment. Oh, you found thosedonuts, didn't you. You found the
donuts, didn't you. Okay,here we are, hey Mark, Oh
he's We're trying to get him backnow, still got an issue? Holy
cow, this is crazy. Imet Mark Cooker a long time ago.

(52:22):
We shared bass water out of hisboats on a couple Oh good, good,
good good. TikTok, TikTok.There he is you back, man,
I'm back. So yeah, Ohthis is way better. Okay,
Well, I see out here inthe country. You gotta you know,
it's like in the old days withthe Rabbit Ears with Tim Fowler. Right
now, I gotta come out andyou know, my hold my arm this

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way and you know, all right, well, don't move, don't move.
I'm moving, Mark Cooker. Iwas talking about you earlier when I
was telling people we were going totalk at eight o'clock about the your name
and my name by my just thename of a fish. But as a
professional fisherman, the name Hooker hadto just it had to work well for

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you. There had to been somebenefit from that, wasn't it wasn't there?
Oh yeah, See, anytime Iworked a trade show and Jimmy Houston
was there, he would always say, there's no way your name, last
name, hook you your name.And I'm like, when I was growing
up as a little kid, youknow, I had to take all the
butt weapons, you know, becauseof uh, you know, my life.

(53:28):
Oh yeah, okay, I getthat part. Yeah, so I
got bigger, you know. Therethey started leave me alone at that point.
But anyway, Uh, all right, so let's get back to high
school fishing. How did you getstarted in that? Well? Uh,
when I rolled into Montgomery's campus inO nine, which I'm a very blessed
man to be here. Yeah,I had to wrap you know, truck

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and boat you know, would looklike a shipley donut box going down the
road. And uh so these kidsthey just literally you know, jump right
on me and sure, and thisone young man that yell Blake Teesdale,
he would not let me go.When I kept saying, Blake, I
had my own business, I'm teaching. I said, I don't have time

(54:14):
for this. I can't do itthe right way. And then he just
kept after me, and then finallyI acquiesced. And then you know,
then you know, through the visionand leadership of our of our principal,
mister Eaton. You know, westarted the team ten years ago. How
many kids were that first team?First team fourteen, second year twenty two,

(54:37):
third year fifty four and then afterthat we've been over ninety Ever since,
Oh my word, yes, sir, we've had seven hundred and thirty
nine students come through the programs.Good golly, that's incredible, man.
And what is the program? Howoften do they get to fish? How

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I'm presuming you don't have to havea boat, because a lot of kids
wouldn't have a boat, but theywould certainly want to be on the team.
How does all that work? Mark? Well, we it's like control
chaos in in August. I'm sure. Well, I mean, seriously,
there'd be about three hundred kids inthe cafeteria. Not kids, but you
know total you know about a pickykids. You know their parents, you

(55:19):
know grandparents, and it's just Igo through it and I say, okay,
right now, we're just trying tosort everything out. Okay, who
in here has a boat, acaptain and a partner? Okay, all
you guys go over here? Yeahyeah, Now who in here has a
boat and a captain but doesn't havea partner? Okay, you guys are

(55:39):
over here. Okay, who inhere just has a desire to be on
a team and fish? Okay,you're over here. And so then we
try to mix match and the bestwe can that And we've had just you
know, tremendous people in the inthe community that will volunteer there, you

(56:00):
know, to take They don't evenhave a dog in the fight, you
know, they just they just wantto help. And it's it's really cool,
you know. You guess that's thebeauty of it really is, is
how much and that we've talked aboutthis before. What the response you got
when you finally started asking people,hey, do you think you could help?
And before you could probably get thesentence out of your mouth, they're
going, yeah, we're in whateveryou want. Yeah, they this community,

(56:22):
uh, you know, the schooldistrict has been one hundred percent supportive,
you know, the uh, thecommunity as a whole. Sponsor groups,
you know, people like you know, they'll just want to help the
kids anyway they can. We've youknow, had tremendous sponsors over the years.
You know. Of course, youknow, you and I both know

(56:43):
mister Shipley, he's in our huge, big, biggest non endemic sponsor.
And then of course we have endemicsponsors, and everybody pitches in to try
to help these kids because it's it'sa good wholesome activity, you know,
and and uh and then a lotof them have been able to garner college
scholarships to go fishing college, youknow, and it's it's just awesome to

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see. Well, no, don'tdon't gloss over that, because you told
me one kid really really rang thebell with a bass fishing scholarship. How
much did he get offered? Well, we had two of them, Okay,
uh, yeah that have signed.Wow, We've we've had We've had
literally dozens have been offered scholarships,but they just decided that they want to

(57:28):
go to whatever college they want togo. To sure. But but we
had our first guy that signed wasa couple of years ago. Uh.
His name was Cad Lipham and hesigned an eighty four thousand dollars scholarship to
fish for duriity and and uh inuh Springfield, Missouri. Doesn't anybody else

(57:50):
fish in Springfield. That's good,probably good for Drew. But that's hilarious.
Oh now, yeah, No,he's uh, he's doing for this.
I mean, he just got secondat the at the bass Master at
High College event there holy turned histicket, punched his ticket to go fish
in the national championship, and youknow, and so and then we've we've

(58:15):
had uh, you know, otherother students have done really well. We
had a you know, former individualstate champion, uh and and Derek Peach
that that he had a tremendous careerat Texas A and M Galveston and and
and you know, and now heworks for a sixth Sense Lures, you
know, and so he's working inthe industry. It's just it's really cool

(58:37):
to watch, you know. Andthat it's out of everything I've ever done
in fishing or hunting, but mainlyfishing, this is by far the most
joys. It brings me the mostjoy. Well, I'm sure, holy
count and talk about real quickly,talk about the trophy case, because I
saw a picture of that on Facebook. Well yeah, that right there.

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It had been kind of a visionof mine. But I knew that we
really didn't have that kind of uhyou know, extra money budget. Yeah,
school budget's got to go to thekids. It doesn't go to the
trophy case. Absolutely go to thekids. But we we just we I
mean, we we had the kids, you know, over the course of

(59:22):
our program have won so much.And I literally was lay anything to our
our booster. President. One dayhe was over at my house and I
think him and his son, theylike to fish in my pond out back,
and so I mean I'm sitting thereand I said, yeah, this

(59:44):
box right here has got like about, you know, ten or twelve trophies
in there. And he said,what a minute, what are you talking
about that? I said, well, I don't have any place to put
them. So and then he soat the banquet, I'm you know,
at a point where they said,hey, can we have a moment with
a microphone, you know, anduh, I was like absolutely, you

(01:00:05):
know, you know, you gofor it and uh so then they they
while he was talking, they rolledout this trophy case. And I'm gonna
tell you what, you almost madea grown man cry. I'm gonna take
you that. I'm sure. I'msure, man. I I just like
the chills went up in my backand I just I just like, Wow,
don't gu what these kids have accomplished, man, you know, and

(01:00:28):
uh because you know about two yearsago you and I were talking to doing
the same thing. And that wasright after you know, Allan Flipper and
white Ford and won the national championshipin high school. Yeah, and these
kids do I just I just shakemy head. God, the kids are
good, pretty good. Lucky foryou and me, we didn't have to

(01:00:49):
fish against them. You know.Oh, no, no way, there
is no way. I mean,if you're competing anywhere in the Texas versus
the tech his hammer, you know, known as Julian Klepper, he was,
he was their captain. Yeah,you tell me, you know,
he but then he went over toit. I kind of kid getted with

(01:01:10):
him. He went over to Alabamaand they were able to win in Alabama,
win the national title there. Anduh so now he's gone to from
the Texas Hammer to the Alabama Hammer. Yeah he's but but trust me,
you know those kids, you know, they they actually are a lot better
on these electronics nowadays than any ofus old guys are, and so well

(01:01:35):
they have you to think, Mark, they really do. And I'm so
glad that this has worked out sowell for you. I know you've got
uh you're wrestling with new plans andkind of a new beginning for yourself.
But on behalf of those kids.Man, thank you so much for what
you did. Oh well, yeah, it's it's been awesome. And I'm
still I'm having conversations with the districtto try to h and like I said,

(01:02:00):
they've been very receptive and very opento me. Wonderful if I do
retire from teaching, Uh that Iwould that Missus Luci and I which I
got to tell you, Missus Luki. Uh, I've said this a thousand
times and I'll say one thousand andone. If Missus Coney Lukey were not

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around to help me, you know, as a co sponsor, there would
not be a team. There's noway I can followed it. And so
but yeah, they're they're talking withus and trying to allow me to continue
to run the team. Something somethingtells me you're not gonna let go of
that team. Mark Cooker, Well, no, I mean, you know,

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nobody's bigger than a program, youknow, I understand that, and
so I just I just want andif we can find somebody that that can
you know, Uh, when Iwas meeting with the superintendent, I kind
of went off. I had to, you know, I'm a teacher.
I had to you know, clearagenda. But uh, and but I
kind of went off tripped a littlebit, and I said, uh,

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I said, sir, we needto try to find somebody eventually because either
I'm going to you know, dieor you know, or you know,
and so we need to find somebody. And I said, but and I
said, I don't want to soundlike like Liam Neeson here, but but
I do have a certain set ofskills. We try to find somebody who
has some of these skills and andand and the passion for this that and

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and we just need to have time. So I said, if if you
guys can allow me just for nextyear to you know, keep running the
team. If I do retire,you know, then we if you have
time to work in Yeah. Well, hey, Mark, I hate to
do it. But buddy, butwe're out of time. You know.
That's fantastic. I'm so I'm happyfor you, I really am. And
I know that whenever you do decideto hand the reins off, it'll be

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to somebody who has the same passionas you, and we'll do a great
job with the program. Thank you, Mark, No, thank you,
sir, Yes, sir, allright, buddy, audios. Wow.
Mark Cooker, that guy and I, like I said, we go back
twenty five at least twenty five years. I would think the first time we
probably ever shared bass fishing water andhad some great times on it. And

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he had this vision he did andhe he made it reality over there for
those kids. And that's part ofthis huge national program. Now that it
involves high schools and colleges, youcan get a scholarship to go bass fishing
in college. And right about thenI heard about fifteen twenty teenagers ears per

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is Sports Talk seven ninety on thego with iHeartRadio Friends. You've got to
try the conversation continues. This asthe Doug type show, The Devil went

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down to Georgia. Hey twenty five, we're gonna be a short segment.
We're gonna get back on time.Elban I promise. I'm sorry, but
I couldn't help myself. Mark hasand I'll toot his horn a little bit
more. Mark Hooker high school teacher, loved bass fishing, involved in professional
bass fishing, involved in the tackleindustry. He wore a lot of hats

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when he was young, and he'sstill a relatively young guy. The bottom
line is he gave up a tonof his personal time, and I think
a significant little chunk perhaps of ayounger man's dream of becoming a professional bass
fisherman and traveling all over the countryand doing that because he cared about those

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kids, and he cared about himenough to set aside, he gets as
much joy. It's kind of likeme in that there is as much joy
from watching a little kid catch afish, or in his case, these
high school kids go out and wintournaments as there is in catching my own

(01:06:57):
fish. I have no trouble puttingdown a roden reel and helping a little
kid catch a fish or a grownup who's never caught one, not at
all. And that's that's I thinka big piece of the future of fishing
is. And I'm seeing a littlebit of I don't know how, I

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don't know how encouraging it is whenyou start seeing people yelling and screaming at
each other on the water, andthey're screaming at people in a lot of
cases who don't know better yet andwill someday they'll figure it out. You
don't drive your boat real close toother people, and there's only two kinds

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of people who would do that.One would be people who just don't know,
they don't know better than to crowdsomeone who is fishing, and they'll
learn it. And the other isthis group that's out there now that just
feel like they own the water andthey shouldn't have to they shouldn't have to
do anything. But whatever they wantto do, go wherever they want to

(01:08:02):
go, at whatever speed they wantto get there, and your success in
mind be damned. And that partconcerns me. But the more I run
into people like Mark and most anybodythat I would hang out with on the
water, Captain Scott comes to mind. If these captains, these older captains,

(01:08:29):
didn't have the patience that they havewith people making bonehead mistakes. Sometimes
they're just annoying, sometimes they're serioussafety risks, but one way or the
other, you either got to helpthem or just stay out of their way.
And I hope that, I reallyhope that there aren't as many rude,

(01:08:56):
arrogant people as there are considerate,safety conscious, and just generally good
people out there on the water.Most of them, I think, are
just like most people in the world. I think are very good people,
very good people. But there aresome people who just decide that their way

(01:09:16):
is the only way, and theydon't care about you, they don't care
about me, and that just drivesme crazy, especially when it's out on
the water like that I've seen.And then there's video all over the internet
of grown men yelling and screaming ateach other, and it's just not necessary.
I would rather just go fish somewhere. That's the sign of maturity in

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fishermen is when someone does that toyou, they cut you off, they
ruin your fishing for the day,rather than yell and scream and not get
anywhere. But except to waste time, go ahead and just pack up and
go somewhere else. Surely you canfind another space, another place to go
fish, and you can. Youjust have to go looking for it.

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Holy cow, look at this,Melvin. We're already at the bottom of
the hour, and to get backon time, I'm gonna get after it.
Well, we're almost on time.We're close. We'll catch up on
the next break. We're very closenow. Timber Creek Golf Club FM twenty
three to fifty one in Friendswood.That's twenty seven holes. Fantastic golf.

(01:10:24):
I would suspect that they look prettydog on good right now. Have a
little rain late in the week sun'sback out. Now. Rough might be
a little thick, but if you'rehitting the ball in the rough a lot,
go over to jj Woods Golf PerformanceCenter at timber Creek. They'll take
good care of you over there andmake sure that swinging yours is is well
honed and capable of putting the ballinto the fairway or onto a green from

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just about anywhere. Great food,great fun, and like I said,
twenty seven holes at Meander threw thewoods down there in Friendswood FM twenty three
fifty one, a couple of mileswell to the golf Freeway. Great teaching
area, great practice area, hugeputting green, and you can put a

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lot of people on there trying tofigure out how to make a puttfall,
and just all around good people.Timber Creek Golf Club dot com is the
website. Make yourself a tea time, go play some golf on the south
side of town at my favorite placeto play down there, timber Creek goolf
Club dot com. Alright, RockyTommy is I thought, Oh, Dave

(01:11:28):
must have called back. That soundslike something David Dave would probably now he'd
already have his fiddle out. Ifhe had asked it, well, he
would have been working on that song. He would have been playing right along
man, singing and dancing and drivinghis neighbors crazy seven three two one two
five seven ninety email and me,Doug Pick at ahartmedia dot com, understand

(01:11:50):
Chase is having a birthday today.That we heard that from Stebo. Huh,
yeah, that's good stuff. He'sgonna get a box of donuts for
his birthday. Oh, I wasn'tsupposed to tell him that. I wasn't
supposed to tell him. Keep veryquiet. Don't anybody tell him? All
right, Welcome back, eight thirtyfive. On Sports Talk seven ninety,

(01:12:11):
Dan sends me this email a minuteago and says some Hey, I think
I better get out and get thisbreak job done on my truck before it
gets too hot. I'm not evengonna reply because I know he hadn't walked
outside yet. I'm gonna tell himtoo late. It got hot in June.
In June, for actually, bein May, it started getting hot.

(01:12:36):
Here. We are almost at theend of June and it's still playing
games with us ninety something degrees.The humidity and the temperature are about the
same when and both are in thenineties, and that's where it starts to
get normal for this part of thecountry. If you just moved down here

(01:12:56):
and this is your first summer inHouston on its it's gonna be a minute
before you you see anything even highin the low eighties. That'll be probably
what November Melvine somewhere around there.Yeah, that sounds about right. How

(01:13:17):
many summers you've been in here inHouston. Oh, I've been here for
about twenty eight years. Yeah,so you know, you know, don't
You don't tell anybody though. Ifthey're new there, they just need to
learn it for themselves. You don'twant to just dash their optimism all at
once. That that will get acouple of cool days, a couple of

(01:13:40):
even cool evenings, unless lows inthe eighties count. Yeah, that's that's
something that I'm having. Finally,I'm finally at the age where I feel
the heat a little bit, andthis is the first early summer where I
thought this might not be as easyas it was last year. I'm not

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giving up, certainly, there's noway I'm not giving up. I'm gonna
play golf, I'm gonna fish,I'm gonna do everything I want to do
outside and if it tips me over, it tips me over, by gosh.
But yeah, it's some there's somefun stuff of coming. Okay,
there, I got good. Igot that email from Felton. I'll get

(01:14:24):
to him. Let me put alittle little flag on that one, so
I catch it after work, afterthe show's over. Then I'll go back
there and answer that one. Well, what's rude he got going on?
I'll go check that in a minute. Roy, fishing areas in Sugarland hmm,
I yes, I will send you, Roy, I will send you

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information on a fishing guide. Ican do that. That's another flag I've
got to take care of. Myson's got some stuff going on. Okay,
Okay, yeah, David Coleback,I don't know what happened there,

(01:15:09):
but I bet we can work thatout. Seven one three two one two
five seven ninety email on me,Dug Pocket, iHeartMedia dot Com. Dan
wade in earlier on his Personal BestI mentioned at that Facebook post I did
this morning that my son, twodays prior to catching that redfish out of
Buffalo Bio, had caught his personalbest large bouth and Dan weighs in his

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personal best he said, I wasprobably about twelve. I was fishing a
cove on Lake Tanna Coomo, justdown the hill from the house. I
have no idea where that is.Down to his last jig, yanking it
back really fast, and all ofa sudden, wham, it stopped.
Boy, how many times has thishappened? The lure stops and it just

(01:15:54):
stops, and you feel like,oh great, I've just snagged something.
By the way, I've lost fourlures, counting four in the past two
weeks at a place that I knowvery well. I think what they're doing
is doing some brush clearing, andsomebody who knows a little bit about bass
fishing is throwing some pretty big piecesof wood in the water and I'm not

(01:16:15):
able to move them. There's that, and then there's some sort of netting
that they had used to stop erosionin another area, and as it turns
out, that too, will stopa lure dead in its tracks, unfortunately.
But I digress, So Dan backto Dan's story. I keep reeling,

(01:16:36):
pulling as easy as I could,and all of a sudden I heard
a blip in the water and lookdown and there was an eight or nine
pounder land next to my foot.It's pretty big fish to just make a
little blip. How about ker splash? Yeah, it doesn't matter. How
doesn't matter how big the splash is, it's how big the fish is,

(01:17:00):
eight or nine pounds is a solidfish. I have a total of two
that I am one hundred percent shore. I didn't weigh either fish, but
I've been around bass fishing a longtime. Two that were double digits in
my entire life, and I'm boy, I've made five million casts at bass.
And I actually heard my buddy JamesFlood talking on the radio or in

(01:17:23):
a podcast deal he's doing now,and I'll I'll talk about that at some
point. I'm gonna get somebody fromthat thing on the phone at whenever I
can. The bottom line is hetalked about how every cast he makes,
every single cast, and I'm thesame way. I think anybody who really
is passionate about fishing feels the sameway. Every cast I make, I

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presume I'm going to get a strike, a bite from the biggest fish I've
ever caught. That's how you haveto approach fishing. If you're day dreaming,
now, huh, I do getcaught daydreaming every now and then,
my attention span I have. I'mblessed and cursed simultaneously, with pretty good

(01:18:09):
peripheral vision. So if something's happeningoff to the left or off to the
right, I might be distracted byit briefly. But every time I let
that lure go, my intention isto catch the largest fish I've ever caught,
at least out of that lake,whatever lake that is, or whatever
bay that is, or whatever beachfront that is. Otherwise, why make

(01:18:30):
the cast? Why bother? Whybother slinging the lure into the water.
If you don't believe one hundred percent, if you don't believe that you can
catch a fish, at least afish there. Now, if you're surrounded
by a school of twelve inch speckletrout, and you you know what's coming.

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Okay, if you want to gocatch bigger fish, you need to
move to a different spot. Butby and large, if you're not,
if you're not convinced that you've gota legitimate chance to catch a fish on
the next cast, you make,and just don't bother making it. Wait
till your confidence is back up,Wait till you believe that you're gonna catch
that fish. Otherwise you probably won'tand you'll be surprised when the fish hits

(01:19:16):
it. Boy, I got Igot burned the other day on something like
that. I got distracted thinking aboutsomething and was just I was just flipping
pretty close to the end of therod tip actually where I was making some
cast in there. And it's kindof not my fault because I was paying
attention. But the thump that Ifelt was it was one of those legitimately

(01:19:40):
big fish thumps, and as fastas I could get my hands to react
and try to set the hook,the fish had already spit it out.
It was just one of those likeit like hitting a nail with a hammer
and the hammer just bounced right offthe nail and I missed the bite.
I missed four bites the other day, four legit bites that it drove me

(01:20:01):
crazy. They just they wanted toeat. These weren't tail slaps. These
were legitimate eats at pretty fast movinglures. But I just wasn't fast enough.
There's no way my reaction times that'sslow anymore. I would just kill
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and some truck whips in front ofyou, and all of a sudden you
hear this little dick on the windshield. Oh no, and you say a

(01:20:45):
word you probably shouldn't have said withthe kids in the car, And then
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very delicate operation. It's not likethey can just come yank the glass out
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drive away. No, In mostof the new cars they have to stop
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eight one eight zero seven fourteen eightyeight. This is Sports Talk seven ninety,
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Pipe Show eight forty nine on SportsTalk seven ninety The Doug Pike Show,
Thanks for listening. Dan Wade inLake Taeney, Como. I would have
never known you could have given mea million guesses, and I would not
have guessed that that is a scrunchingof Teeny County. That's where the CEO

(01:23:01):
comes from, Missouri. That's wherethem O comes from. That's their postal
abbreviation, Tainey County, Missouri.That's where he fished. Michael Wade in.
Michael is up at a cub Scoutfishing event, which is I'll talk

(01:23:24):
about kid fishing stuff all the timein Wood Trace, which is up in
Pinehurst, north kind of northwest ofhere, a little past Tomball, according
to my research department, AKA Melvin, thank you for that. Melvin teaching
cub Scouts how to fish. Okay, it's great that they're teaching the cub
Scouts how to fish. I onlywish that the cub scout's parents would have

(01:23:46):
taught them to fish before. Now, if you're old enough to be a
cub Scout. When I was acub Scout, I'd already been fishing for
five years, started when I wasthree. Yeah, well, how old
do you have to be to bea cub Scout? Melvin? Eight?
Does that sound about right? OfLittle League baseball kind of stuff? Pee
wee baseball? Yeah? Boy,there were no travel teams when I played

(01:24:10):
baseball? Holy cow? Who justtraveled to the field the same field every
day practice games? No? Man, well you know what parents weren't.
So oh no, I'm not gonnago off on that tangent. Boy,
if I get down that rabbit hole, I'll never come out talking about travel,

(01:24:32):
baseball and stuff like that. I'veseen so much. That's all my
list of things to do when Ihave some free time again. I'm gonna
explain how all that works real quick. Sticking with Michael for a second,
outdoorsman, Oh, he does helistens. That's good. I appreciate that.

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Thank you for listening to my show. That apparently he listens to fifty
plus as well, he said,every day. Maybe some podcasts. I
don't know. Since I grew upfishing in Austin, walked the creeks to
fish every day in the summer,walked around with a can of cheese whiz
and stink bait. Oh my gosh, you guys must have been a real
treat to hang out with when yougot home after being out in ninety degree

(01:25:17):
weather covered in cheese whiz and stinkbait. Lord, have mercy. Yeah,
A big event up there in Pinehurst. If you're close to there and
you're a cub scout, go catcha fish. And if you know how
to fish already, go show themhow to catch a fish. Go help

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some other little kid who hadn't hadthat opportunity yet. Be one of those
guys man help them out, helpthem out. I think this past in
June. So far, I've gottwo little kids I've helped catch their first
fish. I think it was theirfirst fish. I'm pretty sure. And

(01:25:58):
I actually I sent their grand anote yesterday. I had some time to
kill yesterday afternoon. I sent himan email said, hey, man,
if you want to, if youwant to meet and put those grandkids of
yours on some catfish, let meknow. I'll go chum it up right
now. And unfortunately they were unavailablethere. I think that the grandkids are
out of town. What I needto do now. See if if my

(01:26:18):
buddy Jerry was thinking, what hewould do is say, I'll meet you
up there, I'll learn how todo it from you, and then he
can be he can be the herowho teaches those little kids how to catch
a big old catfish and one ofthose big carp There are some big carp
in this particular lake, and Ihave a real hunch. Oh what a

(01:26:42):
rudy. Oh yeah, yeah,yeah, I know what it is.
When I was talking to Mark duringthat conversation, I heard it too rudy
and Mark ended up having because helives out in the country, he did
have to go outside the house toget better reception, and there was a
redbird singing, a cardinal singing inthe background. I did hear that.
As a matter of fact, that'spretty good stuff. Man seven one three

(01:27:06):
two one two five seven ninety Emailme Dugpike at iHeartMedia dot com. I'm
gonna do some research before tomorrow,which means I'm gonna make a couple of
phone calls basically and find out whetheror not we are having so far a
good summer for Tarpa. Now thewater's been so boogered up between all the

(01:27:28):
fresh water falling out, I don'tthink the fresh water would have bothered those
tarpaid frankly, because they they arekind of capable of living whenever, wherever,
in some really ugly conditions. Actually, they can even gulp air if
they can't get it, if theycan't get enough oxygen out of the water.
But I got a hunch that nowthat things are calming down, there's

(01:27:48):
gonna be some pretty exciting stuff goingon in the little near shore strip off
the Galveston beach front and surf sideand farther on down the coat. It.
It happens every year. You justhave to be patient and wait for
it. And because of storm situationswe've had lately, but if it wasn't

(01:28:09):
fresh water runoff, it was bulltides that were pushing three four feet of
water up into the bay system.But it's settling down. It's settling down,
and I got a hunch it's gonnajust break wide open. I'll talk
a little bit. Well, we'regonna talk a little golf in the nine
o'clock hour, but I'm also gonnatalk about the near shore strip of water

(01:28:31):
off this Texas coast of ours thata lot of times gets overlooked as a
place to go catch big, fun, fast, hot, crazy fish.
And I wish I had a dollarfor every time I overran the fish as
a young guy, thinking it wasmy buddies and I all thought it was

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just the coolest thing in the worldto take a little bitty boat and go
twenty five thirty forty miles off shoreloose land. That was the objective,
get out there where you can't seeland anymore. And the older I got,
the more I learned that we werepassing up a whole lot of fish
trying to get out there and joinfive or six other boats circle in a

(01:29:15):
pipe stand trying to catch king mackerel. We'll take a little break. We're
going to go out on time andwe'll get back on time, which is
always good. On the way out, I'll tell you about Shooter's Corner down
there on the south side Palmer Highwayat twenty ninth Street, actually in Texas
City, just a few miles offthe Golf Freeway going east. Going east
to Shooter's Corner, Jerry and jTK a father and son team, two

(01:29:39):
of the best gunsmith's in the stateof Texas, maybe in the country,
I'm not sure. Outstanding work theycan do. It's an old school gun
store. They take great pride indoing only what they do and doing it
as well or better than anybody else. There are rifles, shot gun guns,

(01:30:00):
handguns, new and pre owned gunsin there. There's ammo, there's
reloading supplies, there's camo, there'soptics. Everything you need to enjoy the
shooting sports is right there in Shooter'sCorner and nothing else. You're not gonna
find washing machines in there, You'renot gonna find tennis shoes. You're gonna
find guns, Ammo and stuff youneed to enjoy the shooting sports, especially

(01:30:24):
hunting. Jerry and Jay two ofthe best North American big game guides in
the entire on the continent, allthe way from Alaska down to South Texas.
They do an awful lot of guidingand an awful lot of successful hunts
have been made under their supervision andtheir leadership. D Shooters Corner TX dot

(01:30:47):
com is website if you own abadge or if you wear a badge for
a living. If you wear abadge for a living, you get a
discount at Shooter's Corner, which Ithink is pretty dog gone good. These
Shooters Corner TX dot com. ShootersCorner TX dot com. This is the
Doug Pike Show, brought to youby American Shooting Centers, Guns, shooting

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and Instruction since nineteen eighty nine.Now Here's Doug Pike. Nine o'clock hour
starts right now. How about that? Right after the eight o'clock hour saves.
Like every week it's the same thing, hum Melby. You get through
the eight o'clock hour, you lookup, it's the nine o'clock hour.
Let's go see what's on Mike's mind. T him up for me, will

(01:31:32):
you. That was a little golfreference, just right into a golf reference.
How smooth is that? What's goingon? Mike? Oh sir?
How you doing? I'm good?How are you? I'm doing great?
First time caller, man. Ilove your show. Thank you. I
appreciate that. I always listen toit. I have to wake up switch.

(01:31:58):
But anyway, quick question. Ido not fish, but I love
the water. I'm navy man,but I love the water. But I
try fishing. But I don't knowwhat I was suppose. I like,
we go to the dyke, Okay, which side are you fishing? The

(01:32:23):
bay side or the channel side?Channel side? Okay? So yeah,
well you got that part right.If you're standing on dry sand on the
bay side, you can cast asfar as you want. You're probably casting
it about a foot of water,you know that from wading out over there?
Just yea per catch scenery. Ohyeah, that's yeah. We don't
want to do that at all,So you're just not having any luck over

(01:32:45):
there. I never fish, mybrother. I just like I just like
being yeah, like I said,man, so yeah, I like,
I like being around water. ButI'm starting to get oder. Just take
take baby steps and get yourself.If you got a roden real you can

(01:33:05):
use, yes, sir, Igot a pin, I believe, Okay,
we'll spin it n yes, sir. Okay, Yeah, get yourself
some. Just get some fresh deadshrimp and stick some on a on a
on a hook and sling it outthere. Put a little weight on it

(01:33:26):
so you can cast a little fartherand just kind of pay attention to it.
You're gonna get some bite. You'reprobably gonna catch hardhead catfish at first,
but that's okay, that's okay.You got to start somewhere, and
if you go through enough hardhead catfish, at some point, one of those
baits is gonna get picked up bya red fish and that's gonna be a
whole lot more fun, and that'llkeep you coming back some more. Because

(01:33:47):
I got my originally, my buddyhe bought me my license. Yeah that's
good. I switched the shifts formy work. Yeah, because I was
working different chips, but now Igot my weekends. I have never had
weekends in fifteen years. Holy caw. Yeah, good for you. Yeah,

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take advantage. Man, Go downthere. Just you know, you're
navy guy. You like being aroundthe water. Just set yourself up a
little lawn chair and sling a coupleof baits out on the channel side and
see what you can catch. You'llcatch some stuff. There's fishing down those
rocks, yes, sir, realquick. And Lake Houston okay, I
live in the Oh yeah you gotfish over there too. Oh yeah,

(01:34:34):
well suggest for the for Lake Houston. What I would do. If you're
just gonna kind of casual chill out, sit in the lawn chair and fish.
I would do what I do withlittle kids. Go get yourself a
can of corn. Drain all thewater. That's what I told about buddy.
I was like, canacord because Ialways live. Yeah, you tell

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him, you tell him he canhe can use all the stink bait he
wants, get it all over hishands, and his wife will run him
out of the house when he getshome. You take that corn, drain
it off, put some vanilla extractin there, and go throw a big
handful out in front of where you'refishing. Tell him he's got a fish
twenty five yards away, and assoon as those catfish trying that corn,
he'll be creeping right back to you. Man. Yeah, I appreciate it.

(01:35:21):
I love yourself. Thank you.Mo. You're listening to it.
I appreciate You's going to be listeningto everything you do. All right,
you got it. See, let'sget out on the phone. Here,
got him, three two one,Oh, there you are. Hey,
what's going on. I'm good.I'm prety to count your something made a

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little spotty. But so you usedto build rods long time ago, A
long time ago, yeah, haillingaround whatever, hobby whatever. Yeah.
Well I built some some big commercials. I did some jobs for big boats
and stuff a few times, butmostly it was for fun. I don't
know, fifty you built some rodswith the with the with the wheels on

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them. Yeah, yeah, butlike uh, tuna and stuff like that.
Yeah, I did some all shortstuff, sure, yeah, exactly.
So I was. I was fishingwith my cousin a while back on
Rayburn and I left one of myI left my rods whatever, I left
him at the house, whatever,And he handed me one of his medium
light six six bay cast and uh, he bought the rods and then he

(01:36:30):
matched the reels to the rods whatever. But man, I fell in love
with that thing. And I thought, my god, cause because the ones
I've been having, and I reallydidn't pay attention. When you buy stuff
like that, you just say,oh, this is nice looking rod,
right, but mine are all mediumheavy. When I went from to that
medium light, I was like,man, what am I doing? Yeah?

(01:36:50):
And uh, I was like,what's the what's the difference? Is
it the base when they build him? Is that how that's where they figure
medium light, media heavy, mediumfast action? What is all that about?
It's just it's how much how muchgraphide or how much material is in
that rod? And they they're layers. They're very thin layers of fiber.

(01:37:15):
And there's tens of thousands of fibersin every one of these rods. And
by the way, every time youtap one against a tailgate of a pickup
or or bang it off or peerregat, you break a few to break
a few, and at some pointit catastrophic fails. But the more they
the more material they wrap up,the heavier that rod's going to be.

(01:37:35):
And they put different levels of differentamounts of material in different parts of the
rod to change the action of thatrod, where the tip may be faster
or slower, or the mid sectionmay be a little faster or slower,
so they all don't bend the sameway. And different rods and different setups

(01:37:57):
are better for certain lower tipe forcertain fishing types. Yeah, you know,
fishing strategy whatever. And if youI mean, I was just dragging.
I was just dragging plastic worms,were dragging, dragging plastic worms across
the flat, you know, Anduh, I mean, but it was
just like I was, I meanto me, it was like you flipped
the light switch on. I'm like, yeah, man, I been.

(01:38:19):
Yeah. You know, different lowersizes make a whole lot of difference,
too, depends on what you're gonnabe throwing. If you're gonna be throwing
big, heavy top water somewhere,then you can you can stand a little
more meat and muscle in that rod. If you're going to be throwing very
light and I agree, if you'regoing to be trying to dig bass out
of heavy cover, you definitely wantto you can least a medium heavy rod.

(01:38:42):
You know. Yeah, you've gotto be able to turn that head.
Yeah, okay, okay, Iappreciate it, I said, I.
I was trying to look on live. But it's hard to find a
rod online because you really can't putyour hands on it and see it.
So I guess I want to goto somewhere either fishing jack of on a
limited or bass. Yeah, Iwild my hands on something I want to
you know, look at and thebeauty is right now. There's so much

(01:39:04):
stuff on the internet there you canlook up. Just go to YouTube and
look up rod fishing, rod actionsand there'll be probably a thousand videos on
which rods are best for which setupsor you want the story and talk to
them, you know, good,I said, outside and looking at them
alive. But I think I justwant to put my hands on them and

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then and then find me a realyou know, the most bake caster as
I'm assuming would go with just aboutany any any you know type of rods.
Yeah, for spinning, you know, the rod is the the engine
kind of okay, and the realis just the that's just the steering wheel.
Basically. It's the same with golfclubs. The shaft is the engine.

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Of the golf club and the headof that club. It's just something
you like looking at. But theshaft is what's going to determine how tight
a dispersal you're gonna get the wayyou swing. And golf shafts are just
like fishing rods. There are thousandsof different ways they're built to make different
I would have thought that was Iwould have thought that was the opposite way.

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I mean, I played golf,but I don't play golf like you
do. But well, I alwayssaw that, sure, lucky. Well,
now the heads there to to hitthe strike the ball, and there
are different different different types of headsdo different types of things to ball flight.
Okay, that's true. But ultimately, what you've got to find is

(01:40:31):
the right shaft to match up toyour swing speed, to match up with
the way you swing the golf club. And that's that's why I emphasize the
importance of getting fittings for golf clubsrather just going in and buying them off
the rag. It's the same withfishing rods, but here, now here's
something else. Until you can tellme, and you're at the point where
you can tell me why one rodwould help you over another you're you're right

(01:40:57):
there on the edge of understanding that. And as as you understand it,
then it gets really easy. Youcan say, oh, I need this
rod for these lures, and Ineed this rod for these lures, and
then you get a free pass fromfrom your wife. You go buy as
many fishing rods as you need.Not really, but you can dream that
way. Anyway. My wife workspart time in the academy. You're in

(01:41:19):
good shape town. That helps,Okay, Doug, I appreciate it.
Man, all right, we'll seeyou. Mercy Sakes alive. Yeah,
the fishing rods and golf clubs.And like I've said so many times on
this program, if you're going togo buy something, just buy something that

(01:41:41):
will get you through a lot ofdifferent situations. For a beginner, set
of golf clubs will help you becomea better golfer faster because you'll actually hit
a few good shots with them whenyou wouldn't if you were using the same
clubs that some of the pros use. Buy something that will service well for
you, serve well for you untilyou can until you can tell me or

(01:42:04):
somebody else who's asking you the question, what specific benefit you're gonna get from
buying a different fishing rod or buyingdifferent golf clubs, or a different driver
or a different putter, until youcan explain what that's going to do for
you that you can't do with whatyou have now, then just stick with

(01:42:26):
what you got. And if you'regoing to invest a little money invested in
lessons saying fly fishing, bait casting, spinning rods, you can kind of
figure that out yourself, and aneighbor can help you learn to cast.
But if you really want to getbetter with fly fishing or golf, get
professional instruction. Invest a little moneyin that, and you'll get better way

(01:42:48):
faster, and you'll understand how theequipment works faster, and with better understanding
and better practice regimen, you getbetter and that means you're gonna enjoy it
more too. All works out inthe wash, doesn't it, But until
you can tell me what it's gonnado for you, and just stick with

(01:43:09):
what you got and get some lessons, and the person who's given you lessons
can help with the equipment selection aswell. Bellville meat Market, nobody needs
a lesson to go to Bellville meatMarket. They just need a reason.
And I can boy, I couldgive you a thousand reasons. There are
all kinds of reasons to go toBellville Meat Market. Smoke sausage samples available

(01:43:30):
every day that they're open, andthey find something they like they want to
share with you. They cut afew links into little bite sized pieces and
they put them up there on thecountertop and let you come in and get
one and test it out. Andif you do that, just like I've
said before, when you put thetoothpick into that little piece of meat,
go ahead and start reaching for yourwallet, because by the time you eat

(01:43:51):
it, you're gonna know that youwant to get a couple of pounds of
that to bring home. You canbring back. There's bulk pricing on all
that fresh ground, and you canfind out about that when you get to
the store. They got those twodozen plus flavors of premium pecan smoke sauces
that are all just absolutely delicious.Handmade hamburger patties. They make them right

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there right there in the store,actually kind of homemade stuff. It's not
they don't get a made somewhere else. They're making their hamburger patties. They're
making their own hot dogs. Takecare of all your summer cookout needs.
And then of course anything beef,chicken, and port cut the way you
want. You want two inchrib eyes, they'll cut you two inchribuys. There's
always at least one butcher on sitewhen the doors are open and the lights

(01:44:41):
are on. Half a calf,quarter calf, you can get them pre
ordered and custom processed anyway you want. The wild game processing is available all
year round. Anything just boy.If you're not sure whether they'll process it,
call Belleville meet Market asked for Brandon, Say hey, and I got
this, I need to bring itin to get processed. Can you do

(01:45:02):
that for me now? And they'lllet you know before you drive all the
way there. Which isn't that bada deal? By the way, that
that ground beef just three eighty ninea pound when you buy ten pounds or
more at Belleville Meat Market forty twoplus years taking care of pretty much half
a Texas. I would think isthere are people from all and I'm sure
there's some people from Louisiana. Ifthey're smart, they drive that far,

(01:45:23):
just pass up everything else in between. Get to Bellville Meat Market about fifteen
minutes north to Sealy fifteen minutes southof Hempstead on Highway thirty six. Belleville
MeetMarket dot COM's website. If youdon't even have to leave the house,
you don't even have to get outof bed. Just go to Bellville MeetMarket
dot com, order something and thenwait for that little ding dong. Your
stuff's here and just your mouth's gonnawater. Belleville MeetMarket dot com. This

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is Sports Talk seven ninety, SayHouston sports fan on air and on Facebook.
That contact back to The Doug FikeShow, nine twenty one on Sports
Talk seven ninety The Doug Pike Show, Thanks for listening. Certainly do appreciate
it. I'm talking to Melvin aboutfishing rod actions, boring him to tears.

(01:46:09):
Wake up, Melvin's okay, sorryabout that? All right? Going
to the Travelers Championship ongoing now inGuy. Where are they? I can't
even remember. I'm drawing a blankand I apologize. Sorry Travelers Cromwell,
Connecticut. There it is. Iknew it was here at TPC River Highlands.
I remember that part. I couldn'tget it. Couldn't put myself in

(01:46:29):
Connecticut. Probably a little bit coolerthan it is down here, though,
that wouldn't be bad. Colin Moore, kala Is bet Well, Tom Klin's
leading at thirteen, and then it'smore kala Ai, Sha Battilla and Scottie
Scheffler, Oh boy, everybody elsemight as well just go home, all
at eleven, just two shots offthe league. Coming into today's third of

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four rounds, Xander Shawfley at tenalone in fifth place and then in sixth
place at nine under par, SonAm Shane Lowry and Justin Thomas. Justin
Thomas kind of kind of fell offthe radar lately. He hadn't done much
and nothing, as they say.Tony Feen now at eight under par,

(01:47:15):
along with Robert McIntyre and Tom Hogy, all tied for ninth, and then
it goes on and on from therewith some There are some pretty significant players
at seven, and of course theleaderboard goes down from there. I do
think that the sevens and eights arestill very much alive and in this thing,
and that brings a lot of peopleinto it. I think from there

(01:47:39):
down it would be an uphill climbfor anybody to show up on top of
the leaderboard tomorrow afternoon. But everybodyin that top let me see how far
down it goes. When I includethe sixes or the sevens, they're fifteen
guys at seven or better and theleaders alone to shots out or well,

(01:48:01):
yeah, two shots out. Kim'sat thirteen, more Cow at eleven,
and Batia and Scheffler, Scotty Scheffer. I can't bet against him. I'll
take Scotty Scheffler and give you thefield for a penny. Melvin a penny.
We're gonna have a penny bet.Is that okay? You got a
penny? Yeah, I have apenny. Okay. I'm gonna take Scotty

(01:48:24):
Scheffler and if he doesn't win,If he doesn't win, I'll give you
a penny. But I think he'sI think he's kind of right at his
ship. It certainly looks like it. He's two shots off the lead.
He shot sixty five and sixty four. Tom Kim put himself where he is
by rolling out of sixty two onThursday, pretty much anomalous. You're not

(01:48:46):
gonna get any better than that onthat golf course. Not an easy course.
So we'll see. I got apenny if I don't not bring one
from home. I got a bagof change I need to take. Do
you do you have use that coinstarthing in the grocery store. Oh,
I'm sorry, I sorry about that. He's busy. Well yeah, coinstart.

(01:49:09):
Oh now you're talking to me.Why you think you're talking to Mark?
Yeah, I'm really getting confusing.Okay, signing off, Melvin,
you go back doctor Mark. Allright, I'll talk about Coinstar. I
used to use that thing an awfullot to get rid of my change,
and this time I think if theystill have the best pro shops gift cards,

(01:49:33):
I'll use it. But if theydon't, I'm just gonna I don't
know, I'm gonna take that.I got a little little bag of coins
that I don't want to go dumpout somewhere. Gotta start refilling the tank.
I don't know about you, butchange is just sadly, almost everything
we touch turns to fifty dollars.In the grocery store. You can't hardly

(01:49:57):
get out for less than about ahundred. Now if you're buying for anybody
more than yourself, I just don'tknow how people are doing it anymore.
I guess we're gonna have to allstart kind of fishing and paying attention to
what we can and can't bring onstill I'm not really in the mood to
kill speckled trout and red fish.I still I don't keep but a few
in an entire year. I justdon't's I have no reason to do that.

(01:50:21):
I love the taste of fish,but my wife and I don't cook
that much. So yeah, notgoing to do that. Travelers ongoing,
Like I said, up there inConnecticut where currently the temperature they usually have
it, oh, it's eighty twodegrees up there, so heat. I
forgot about it. The rest ofthe country while we were down here worrying

(01:50:44):
about Alberto. The rest of thecountry was dealing with a pretty significant heat
wave where there have been heat valueswhat do they call it, The heat
index of one hundred are better ina lot of places that normally wouldn't be
anywhere near a hundred. So Iguess, I guess they're just going to

(01:51:08):
have to get used to what we'vealready become accustomed to over the past what
thousand years. I honestly, Ihave no idea how people settled this area
before air conditioning and before insect repellent. I don't know what they did.
I know that the Native Americans wouldcover themselves in mud to keep the mosquitoes

(01:51:29):
and flies and whatnot from biting.But you're, you're, you can only
be so efficient with that as aas a repellent, and so that it
must have been miserable. I guessyou would just get used to it.
I guess you would. It wouldjust be the normal. And because it
wasn't easy to just pack your stuffand drive away, you had to.

(01:51:55):
You had to just do what youhad to do. Keep a little little
smoky fire going going close to thehouse, keep them, keep some of
the bugs away that way, keepthe mud on you where they can't bite
through it. Boy, it'd betough if it rained. You're a long
way from home, all your mudwashes off. Seven one three two one
two five seven ninety. Email meDougpike at iHeartMedia dot com. I'm gonna

(01:52:17):
go ahead and take this break atthe bottom a little bit early, and
I'm gonna go look a couple ofthings up that I want to look up
on the internet, and when weget back we will continue seven one three
two one two five seven ninety Emailme Doug Pike at iHeartMedia dot com.
Let me check emails. Yeah,I got a couple of things I need
to go through in here. Ohboy, oh this is even Oh,

(01:52:40):
Rudy has come through. I'll tellyou when we get back. I'm not
gonna tell you what it is now, but i'll tell you when we get
back. Take a little break onthe way out. Carter's Country. Carter's
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(01:53:03):
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(01:53:26):
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(01:53:47):
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it delivered right to your house.Carterscountry dot com is website, Carterscountry dot

(01:54:09):
com. This is Sports Talk sevenninety breaking sports news on Facebook twenty four
to seven. We'll get that informationto them. This is the dog Fight
Show. Some real toe tappers comingout of that room of yours. Melvin
Holy cow man, Jim Dandy tothe rescue. That's what's the year on

(01:54:30):
that one? Does it say no? It doesn't say that's all right?
I just posed something out to archive. That's all right. So Rudy sends
me an email just before the break, and I look down and I see
Fox News story says aggressive bullshark caughton videos circling and ramming jet skiers and

(01:54:53):
the headline says day's successive attacks.I didn't read the whole story, but
I did watch the video because that'smore fun than reading. And it's pretty
pretty impressive. This is very clearwater up Florida Panhandle, beautiful beachfront.
Love it over there. And thisbullshark is about not five and a half,

(01:55:14):
maybe six feet long. If youstretch his tail out and pull his
tongue out and it's it's not Itdoesn't appear to be biting in the video,
at least I didn't watch it framefor frame, but it doesn't appear
to be biting it. It's justit's almost like it's toying with it and

(01:55:38):
and nudging it for some reason.I don't. I don't know if I
would call it an attack, butit certainly is the only way we can
describe it with a shark would beaggressive behavior. It's it's banging its nose
into those jet skis and and shootingthrough there pretty fast. And there's one

(01:55:59):
point at which it comes racing outthrough and under the hole and then comes
out of the water actually on theother side. I don't know if I'd
have wanted to hang around necessarily withted bullshark doing that, But whoever was
shooting the video did, and theygot some pretty impressive video of that occurrence.

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So it had something else to thinkabout. When you're out there swimming
around and playing around in the water. You just never know, huh,
Kevin ways in, this is reallyinteresting. Texas, we get Alberto,
the Midwest gets a heat wave Montana. What do you think happened in Montana

(01:56:42):
in the middle of June, lateJune? Twelve inches of snow? Twelve
inches of snow. And no,this is not some apocalyptic climate change.
It's just June in North America.Not the first time we've ever had a
tropical storm pop up in the Gulfof Mexico in June, not the first

(01:57:05):
time the Midwest has had a heatwave, and not the first time it
snowed in Montana in June. Itsnowed. I want to say it was
at Park City. I remember whenI was going up there fairly often.
I ran across somebody who was tellingme that it had snowed on the fourth
of July in Park City, Utah, on the fourth of July. So

(01:57:30):
weird stuff has happened weather wise prettymuch since weather began on this planet.
And I'm still not really I'm notconvinced that much of what we do as
a nation or even as a speciesis going to change the weather patterns of

(01:57:51):
the planet. The planet's been doingall right on its own for a long
long time. And this whole notion. Boy, don't get me started on
on carbon dioxide, because if welower the carbon dioxide level much more than
it is now, it's it's downconsiderably from what it was a long long
time ago. And if we takeit down just a little bit more,

(01:58:13):
that's gonna kill all the plants.That's gonna kill all the plants. And
if they go, we go.So let's not let's not just go crazy
on some of this stuff. Sevenone three, two, one two five
seven ninety Email me Dougpike at iHeartMediadot com. Damn wait in Jim Dandy
was released Melvin in nineteen and seventythree. Nineteen and seventy three. Okay,

(01:58:41):
I was about an infant during thattime, You were an infant something
like that. Oh my god,I wasn't an infant. Let's just leave
it at that. I was notan infant. I had a driver's license,
So yeah, there you go.Yeah, I sure did, Sure

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did some one three two one twofive seven ninety Rudy weighed in when I
was talking to Mark, and Iwell after I talked to Mark, but
he just he wondered if these highschool kids who are doing this fishing are
actually fishing or whether they are livescoping. That's a good question, and

(01:59:25):
I wish I'd have had more timewith Mark to maybe asking if he still
listened, maybe he can he canweigh in by email or something. I
would hope that, and knowing Markthe way I do, at least early
on in this experiment, in whichvery successful experiment that I know, I
just know him well enough to knowthat he was teaching them how to phish

(01:59:48):
and not how to play a videogame, which is basically what all the
new Sonars do. I'm I'm alittle well the Jerry's not out for me
that I'm still not a big fanof this livescope and stuff, especially for
tournament fishing, because it almost completelyeliminates anybody who doesn't use it from catching

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a big enough enough big fish towin an event. And it really,
I don't know, it's just notit flies in the face of the spirit,
if you will, of fishing,of analyzing conditions trying to figure out
whether that water that's coming down theriver and coming into the lake is going

(02:00:41):
to move those fish or not.If it does, where is it going
to move them? Where are theygoing to go instead? In many cases
now the tournament is going to bedecided by somebody who just idled around the
lake watching TV and waiting for hisfavorite show to come on. And then

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you just drop a lure down infront of that fish, dangle it off
its nose a few times, andyou can see well enough to know when
that bait is in front of thatfish, and if they bite, they
bite, you know exactly when toset the hook. You know, all
that stuff. I don't know.That's just it's another piece of technology that's

(02:01:30):
kind of maybe gone a little toofar. When you don't have to fish
to catch fish, you just haveto ride around and look at a screen
and then push a button and letyour lure go down and then jiggle it
a couple of times, get abite, lend a fish, and go
on to the next one. Whatit has enabled people to do, and

(02:01:51):
I think this could be an interestingdevelopment offshore, is think about the way
a lot of bass fishermen now arejust idling over open water. They're out
in the middle of nowhere in thelake. They have no idea what's on
the bottom where they are. It'sjust lake bottom. But somewhere out there

(02:02:15):
there might be something somebody dropped overthe side of the boat years ago,
some little bitty thing that's got abig giant bass sitting on it, and
that happens. They're just trolling throughopen water, just idling through open water
and finding these giant fish. Nowoffshore, that's something that has been done

(02:02:38):
for a long time over some ofthese little hard spots way offshore, and
people have been able to find reallybig red snapper, like one or two
of them sitting on a hard spot. And when you find those fish,
they're usually really big red snapper.Who knows, maybe that'll be I'm sure

(02:03:01):
it is already the next offshore boatthat has that kind of technology on it.
It certainly won't be the first.And it's great that we can go
catch those fish. But at whatpoint, since a lot of those fish
are gonna be hauled in, atwhat point does it become a potential problem
for the resource. The beauty forbass largemouth bass has pretty much got Carte

(02:03:25):
blanche in most parts of the country. They're not gonna get killed. They're
gonna get they're gonna get caught,they're gonna get weighed at some official way
station, and then they're gonna getdropped right back into the lake from whence
they came, and they can goon about their business. Might have might
be a little bit of a swimto get back home, or they can

(02:03:45):
just take up residence somewhere else inthe lake and hope they can avoid the
camera, the camera's probing eye asthey swim through there. You don't even
have to be able to see downinto the water. Back when I first
started fishing, the first started fishingoffshore at least, and I was fascinated

(02:04:06):
by the Atlantic Ocean off my grandparents'house in Florida. The neighbor across the
street, who had a boat bigenough to run and do some fishing offshore,
took me several times suit my dadand me and my grandfather we'd go
out fishing with. I can't rememberhis name. I'll probably think of it

(02:04:26):
during the break, but the bottomline was he had a way. He
had the original no electricity required alternativeto live scoping and I'll tell you what
it was when we get back.We'll take a little break here, we'll
come right back. Well, wrapher up for this Saturday morning, The
Doug Pike Show on Sports Talk sevenninety ninety. This is Sports Talk seven

(02:04:49):
ninety Houston. Sports online at sportsseven ninety dot com. Back to The
Doug Fike Show nine on Sports Talkseven ninety The Doug Pike Show. Thanks
for listening. I just saw somethingoutside the outdoors and golf world, but
very telling. The whole list ofthings that you have to show ID to

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do, and it says, let'ssee bank, id airport, doctor,
pharmacy, school, gun store,hunting, fishing, daycare, hospital,
bar, workplace, all of thoseyou have to show ID voting. Nah
drives me crazy. Seven one twofive seven nine. Email me Dug pick
at iHeartMedia dot com. There's Igotta get off this social media stove.

(02:05:34):
I get wrapped up in some ofit and it just carries me away.
I'm gonna go back to the NationalHurricane Center's website and see if they've gone
ahead and scratched that little yellow axoff of here, which I hope.
I'm almost one hundred percent sure theywill that one down in the Bay of
Campeache will go away tonight. There'sjust no way there we go. Yeah,

(02:05:57):
it's still there. Oh wow,they flipped them. That can't be
right. They flipped them. Now, that's very interesting. The one down
in the Bay of Campeache now showsas fifty percent and about to head into
Mexico way farther south. It willbe a non event here for sure.
And the one over at Georgia,now they must have messed it up this

(02:06:21):
morning because the one over on theGeorgia coast now is the one showing the
zeros. That is so bizarre.But it's good news for us, so
who cares, and good news reallyfor everybody in our country at lead.
No bad news for the people downwhere that thing may go in and cause

(02:06:41):
more rain and flooding and in placeswhere they don't need rain or flooding.
But we're going to be okay.From that one surfside camera, let's see
if it looks any different. It'sit's not rough looking, but the color
on the water doesn't. The color'snot good. Oh. I did get

(02:07:02):
an email, by the way,and I love getting these, and I
neglected to mention it earlier from Jonathanat about nine o'clock. Jonathan ways In
just got off the water in Galvestonoff in West Bay. Water was super
high and dirty. Couldn't find cleanwater anywhere. Relocating to a new spot.

(02:07:26):
Boy, I hope you found it. Maybe that's why he hasn't emailed
back. Maybe he has found thegood water I would love to have.
I would love to have it entireI want all of you to consider yourself
as part of my network. Andif you've gone fishing somewhere in the morning
and you get there and it lookslike garbage, I want to know if

(02:07:46):
it gets there it looks really reallygood. Tell me it looks really really
good, and then let me knowwhether it's okay. If I mentioned where
you found good water and maybe gottena few bites already, I won't blow
up your spot. I promise Iwon't blow up your spot. That's one
of the ways I made it throughand got good information for the fishing reports

(02:08:09):
when I was doing for the paper. And conversely, there were some people
whose reports I stopped taking some fishingguides for professional guides. They were back
then, I doubt they are now. But who would deliberately tell me that
they were catching good fish in aparticular area that they hadn't been to in

(02:08:31):
days, just to throw me offthe trail when I was trying to write
my reports. And what happened tothem was that I had people that I
knew I could trust and would callme and say, hey, so and
so told you he was fishing inEast Bay the other day. And I
saw him all day in West Bay. Everywhere I went in West Bay,

(02:08:54):
there he was. And so oneby one I whittled out the the people
who weren't truthful with me and dialedit into a really good network of people
who were truthful. And I thinkthat those fishing reports were pretty helpful to
a lot of people. I hopethey were. In any event, I
did them for Guy the better partof twenty years, I think, and

(02:09:18):
then toward the end passed the batonto Bank Grimes, and he did a
fine job with him until they justwell, the paper became something it wasn't.
When I and Joe Dogg Getting Shannonand Bob Brister, all of us
were there. We had a goodtime. I still every now and then
stumbled across someone who who says,man, we sure enjoyed reading what you

(02:09:41):
guys did back then, and man, if you enjoyed reading it, just
imagine how much fun we got.We had getting to live that life was.
It was not hard to get upin the morning and go do what
we did. And the job,the job was writing about it, and
none of u us ever lost sightof that. The job was conveying a

(02:10:03):
story or sharing some news or whateverfrom the outdoors world. And we took
that very seriously, all of usdid. But it wasn't hard duty,
I'll admit that. And my wife, God bless her, put up with
a lot of a lot of timeswhen I said, you know, I

(02:10:24):
have to go fishing. I haveto go fishing because I need to write
about this for whatever season it was. Have to go hunting again. I'll
be back in four days or aweek. Have to go fishing again.
I'll send you. Actually, itwas very early in I want to say

(02:10:46):
it was email, very early inthe history of email, when I made
my trip to Sweden, and thatwas a lot of fun, it really
was. We had a blaster,you kidding. We were over there fishing
in Sweden and got to visit thefactory in which well, we visited the
Schremano Factory, and then at onepoint got a tour of the building,

(02:11:09):
the little teeny tiny former watch factoryin which was built the original Abu Garcia
five thousand, the first five thousand, the red reel that changed everything in
coastal fishing and in freshwater fishing,first true free spool reel where you just
pushed a button and the line camespinning off of air, but the handle

(02:11:33):
didn't spin. And that was agame changer, man, and we got
to see where that happened. Itwas a legitimately moving moment for We didn't
cry because it was a fishing reel. Nobody had a baby there, but
it was It was pretty humbling asa fisherman to realize that this group of

(02:11:54):
of brilliant people had gotten together andfigured out how to do that and actually
made it happen and had that muchimpact on the world of fishing. Then
came monophilament, Then came bray,then came graphite and boron, and boron
didn't work out so well, butall of these innovations in fishing, and
every year it's it's been got tohave been a greater challenge to come up

(02:12:16):
with something better in every part ofevery part of all of the outdoor sports,
really, and somehow they keep doingit. Somehow, just when you
think, boy, it just can'tget any better than this, it gets
better than this. And that's man, that's what makes it fun to walk
through tackle stores. You just gotto have one of those. You look

(02:12:37):
down, man, I boy,I'm sure invested a lot in these rods
and reels I've got. They're sogood, man, I'd never want anything
else. Wait, what's that I'venever seen that? Come over here?
Tell me about this. Okay,give me three. I'm gonna need three.
Do they come in different colors?Well, then let's get three in
each color. I don't know how, I know how, man, but

(02:13:01):
they keep getting better and I keeploving every bit of it. Technology is
good and bad it is. I'mnot a big fan of livescope, and
I've made that very clear. Butif that's what floats your boat, and
if that's how you want to gocatch your ten pound bass, go catch
it now, more power to you. Then you'll have a ten pound bass.
Unfortunately, it's gonna be a lot. There's gonna be a lot of

(02:13:24):
bad fishermen who have caught ten poundbass. But then again, there are
a lot of bad deer hunters whohave giant bucks on the wall. There's
a way to get it other thanhard work. Unfortunately, I wish it
were only hard work that could getyou trophy class stuff, because that would
certainly separate a lot of people andpush a lot of them to the sidelines.

(02:13:46):
We're almost out of time, aren'twe. Moment Cowlee, I looked
up at the clock and thought thatmusic's gonna start any second now, almost
tomorrow. I want to get backa little bit deeper into the speckl trout
stuff, and I'm going to makethose phone calls about the tarpin. But
tomorrow I want to find out fromyou guys what you think, just as

(02:14:09):
early snapshot we have of like,holy cow, where'd all these speckled trout
come from? It's not like theyappeared out of nowhere. They didn't.
They didn't just boil up out ofthe bottom of the bay. So where
were they when we were having sucha hard time finding them not that long
ago? What really caused the changein the limits. We're going to discuss

(02:14:33):
that a little bit tomorrow, andthen whatever else you guys want to talk
about. That's it for me today. Dan Matthews coming up next on Sports
Talk seven ninety I hope you enjoywhat he's gotten to say, and I
sure hope. Boy. I'd loveto see the Astros whip up on those
orioles again. They almost they almostfell apart, but they didn't. More

(02:14:54):
tomorrow at eight o'clock. I'll seeyou then. Thanks for listening, Audios
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