Fly fishing, tips and tricks for the beginner.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Now here's Doug Pike here.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
I am.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Let me sit down. Hold on, Melvin and I we're
on the same page this morning. I don't know what
time he did it, but I did it about thirty
minutes ago. Usually when we come in here, because the
person who's working the KTRH newsroom now is not a
coffee drinker. We come in here and there used to
be a couple of people back there who would have

(00:36):
been making coffee, but they're not around anymore. They left
and retired and whatever, so we've gone kind of coffeeless.
Is that a word, Melbourne? It is now? Yeah, really
it is.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
Now.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
That's a very good way to look at that. Anyway,
I come in and the first thing I did, I thought,
you know what, I'm gonna go ahead and make a
pot of coffee right now, so Melbourne and I don't
have to worry about it. And about what fifteen to
twenty minutes later, you passed through the kitchen said, by
the way, there's a fresh pot of coffee. I made
a little while to go back in the newsroom, so
we are going to be bouncing off the walls. I

(01:11):
don't want to go. I don't want it to go
to waste. That would I don't want to be wasteful.
So I'm gonna be chugging caffeine in here through the
whole show and just see how jittery I can get
that sound fun back to the college days. Get a
farm man, get a funnel, get an IV drip, and
just to carry that little that little thing around with

(01:32):
you walking down the halls. There have been days I
don't know. I still have a pretty good energy level,
I would say, but I also have have figured out
that the chair at the house in which I sit
most often has now become it's a sedative. The chair
is a sedative itself. I don't have to do anything
but just sit down in that chair, prop my feet

(01:54):
up on the ottoman, and I'm pretty much out. And
if I want to get to sleep faster, there's a
little game that I play on my phone, a word game.
Imagine that that I play on my phone that I
don't know. It's just it's like tying Bowlden balls to
my eyelids in a cartoon or something like that. It's
just one, two, three out, all right. Let me find

(02:16):
my paperwork that I put together this morning from which
I was going to work. This was one of these
mornings where I put a lot of stuff down because
there's a lot going on, and I do want to
get to all of it. I doubt that we will.
I'm still looking for feedback, by the way, from anyone
and everyone in this audience, because I feel like you're

(02:38):
on the whole more educated than the average sportsman in
this state in the trout regulations and how they're going
to impact our speckled trout fishery moving forward, both short
term and long term. The short term since it started
up back in the springtime, that ruling was passed. It

(02:58):
was passed by the Commission I think in January maybe
and put into place, I want to say, March twenty six,
somewhere in there, the three fish trout limit that we're
under now. And there was a lot of pushback, a
lot of pushback early. Oh no, this is horrible. It's
going to ruin trout fishing. A lot of the guys
thought it would ruin their business. Oh, nobody's going to

(03:21):
come down here and fish for three trout. Well, it
turns out that the majority of people who were the
average customer I would say who hires a fishing guide
doesn't catch three trout a day anyway, So even three
would be exciting for them. And the beauty about fishing,
and I've preached this for as long as I've been

(03:41):
in this business. Unlike in hunting, the beauty in fishing
is that you can catch your limit and then you
can still keep fishing so long as you throw back
all the fish you catch. From that point forward, you
have the option if you catch a fish that's barely
a keeper, even the first cast of the day, you

(04:02):
can throw that fish back and it doesn't count against you.
I would encourage everyone who's going to practice catch and
release until they get the limit. They want to do
it the right way, which is not to beat the
fish up, not to tear them up. And if you
really want to step onto the conservation bandwagon, do what

(04:24):
I've been doing for about twenty five years now and
mash flat the barbs on your hooks. A lot of
guys who said, no, there's no way I'm mashing my
hooks barbs flat when I'm going fishing for big speckle
trout man, because if I catch a big one, I
want to hold it in my hand. Well, I could count,

(04:45):
probably on one hand the number of speckled trout that
I've lost that I could directly contribute that loss to
a barblous hook. So long as you maintain pressure on
the line, and so especially if you've just got one
hook in that fish's mouth really good, it can't use
any kind of leverage against it to get it out

(05:09):
of there. You keep that line tight, you keep pulling,
and it keeps trying to get away. But most times
I've gone through a day of fishing and not really
not really noticed and not really cared that I lost
a fish. I've caught and kept and killed and eaten
enough fish to last a lifetime, and I love it.
I still love to eat speckle trout. They're great. I

(05:30):
love redfish, they're great, Flounder very good. And we can
go to the deep water fish and find a lot
more things to eat out there too. But the bottom
line is most of us who are going fishing aren't
going fishing because if we don't catch a fish, we
won't eat that night. That's not what we're doing we're

(05:52):
out there to have a good time. We're out there
to be with friends and family, and it's therapeutic. It's
a lot cheaper than therapy, that's for sure. That's what
I'm told. Somebody told me the other day that a
friend of a friend of theirs whatever was going to
therapy and paying something like one hundred and seventy five

(06:12):
two hundred dollars an hour. Well, it doesn't cost that
much to go fishing, I can assure you. And nothing
you ever, nothing you ever brought home from the therapist
could be thrown into a skillet and made tasty for dinner.
So fishing, hunting anywhere in the outdoors. That's kind of sappy, really,

(06:34):
But nonetheless, you know what I'm talking about. I get
so much I get so much benefit from everything I
do outdoors that I cannot imagine being cooped up in
the house. It's just so and letting my vitamin D
level just whittle down to nothing. Melvin, do you do
you feel you feel refreshed after you do something outside?

(06:57):
You feel better for being outside? Yeah, especially lawn work
gives me a you know you're a long guy, huh, Yeah,
I'm a long guy. Hey, pride. Yeah, I see a
weed out there, you get kind of miffed. You's got
to run to the garage and get the spray. It
has to go. You got to go, You got to go.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
I had to put some stuff on my lawn that
I think the guy who mows my lawn and the
lawn next door is coming from some place where his
mower is picking up weed seeds as he mows. Yeah,
you're nodding your head, you know what I'm talking about.
And those seeds got into our yards, the mine and
my neighbors and took over some pretty good chunks of lawn. Now,

(07:39):
I consulted with Skip Richter over there on on garden
line about just how to kill those particular weeds. And
when I send him the pictures, he said, oh, those
are hard, hard to tackle, but here's the stuff that'll
get them. And I had to go to a specialty
store and it's kind of one of those under the
county y'all. Oh you want that, you have you must

(08:01):
have some really bad weeds. Well, yes, Skip said to
get it, and it's expensive, but I put one application
on there and gone. That stuff is gone. Now, unfortunately
left some kind of semi patchy places in my lawn.
But my lawn guy says, if we fertilize it correctly

(08:23):
comes spring, it's gonna it's gonna all just fill right
in and be just fine. So hopefully we don't have
to place any new turf anyway. The bottom line is
you don't have to have barbs on your hooks. It
really doesn't matter. And honestly, I can tell you right now,
if I had a and I talked about three foot
long trout yesterday, it's just the magical benchmark that anybody

(08:45):
would want to get waigh, just to make sure they
didn't have a news state record on which honestly I
wouldn't care about either. I would have the memory. I'd
take a couple of pictures real quick and make sure
that I could document that I'd actually caught the fish,
and then I'd let it go. And if that fish
got all the way right up to the boat and

(09:05):
shook his head at me, and all six of the
barbed the mashed hook points on that double treble hooked
lure came out of its mouth at the same time, no, okay,
you win, that's great, man. Well you don't really win,
because I saw you. I know I had you, and
I know I could have caught you if i'd if

(09:28):
something else had happened differently. But it doesn't matter. It
doesn't matter. It's I would take pride in the catch,
even I would take pride in the loss of a
big trout like that. I didn't physically handle it, so
I guess technically it's not a catch, but it's still
a memory, and it's a really good one. It would
make a good story. Nobody believe me if I told

(09:48):
him I hooked a thirty six inch trout. I can
assure you of that. Uh.

Speaker 6 (09:52):
Fishermen.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Fishermen forever have been known as as liars. And there
are even so bay systems in Texas where where the
fishermen are, at least through history and mythology, are believed
to be liars and untruthful about the weights and lengths

(10:16):
of their fish. And there was a time when somebody
would catch a say, a four pounder out of the
Galveston Bay System, an honest four pounder, and refer to
it as a different bass system. I don't want to
I don't want to pin down these guys because they'll
get mad at me. But this other base system six pounder.

(10:37):
It's a four pound fish, but if they caught it
in that bay, they called it a six pounder. Anyway,
That's that's enough of that part of it. I do
want to hear from you, though, I want to. I
want to get some feedback, something else I can use.
This guy Royce Wilkes called yesterday and he made a
very good point that I hadn't even come up with
yet when I was when I started this. When I

(10:59):
started this piece, I'm six seven hundred words into it now,
getting kind of to the point where I've got to
stop adding and start fine tuning. And Royce brought up
the fact that our red fish limit is three down
from five not that many years ago, and there are

(11:19):
more redfish now than you can shake a stick at
in our bay system. It's hard to go out and
not catch a redfish if you go out with the
intention of doing so. That wasn't the case not too
many years ago. And I can remember back far enough
when we went through a spell of I don't know,
three five years somewhere in there where you could go

(11:39):
out and fish for red fish all day. You could
go out and fish every day for redfish all day,
in a couple of bay systems for a week and
not catch one. They were that scares. They were that depleted,
mostly thanks to the sane or the perseeing offshore from
years ago, but a lot of there was a lot

(12:01):
of mostly unlawful gill netting. Once the gill nets were
taken out, that helped a lot, but there was still
commercial fishing. There were still unlawful commercial fishing. There was
still a lot of pressure on that resource, and the
spawning stock offshore had been depleted horribly. Thankfully that's been

(12:22):
pretty much put to bed too. The bottom line was
you couldn't catch a red fishing. Now it's hard. You
just about and in some places you pretty much throw
a rock into the bay and hit a redfish. We
gotta take a break.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
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Speaker 2 (12:43):
Eight nineteen on Sports Talk seven ninety The Doug Flike Show.
Thank you for listening. I certainly do appreciate it. Let's
let's get to the phone. See what's going on in
Rick Biss's world. Standby there we are Rick. What's up man?
You crow hunt this morning?

Speaker 4 (12:58):
No, I need a kite. I don't know if a
cake to survive this or not. The wind's whipping for Yeah,
here it comes, buddy, it's it's coming out. I'm my
plan is I'm gonna I add a little more winter
rising to my personal stuff. But I'm trying to block

(13:19):
the wind chill FA trying to knock that down north
and west side. And I'm I'm out now to some
places I have access to and just helping them are
for them doing a little winter rising. I'm putting the
brakes on windmills. I don't want them to keep turning

(13:40):
in this winter, otherwise we won't find them till they
get the Galveston Bay. But I do have a really dumb,
stupid joke. I'm just sitting here right now. Should in
the world go by? And uh, I've told you before.
Up here where I am, I have a a good infestation.

(14:00):
And the rabbits jack rabbits, and yeah, I've seen the.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Jack rabbit pictures are pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
I'm sitting here watching this wind blow, and I got
a real dumb joke. Oh boy, do you want to
know how hard the wind is blowing right now up
there on this SEAgel?

Speaker 2 (14:16):
How hard is it blowing rick.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
The rabbits are flying by.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Oh lord, yeah, yeah, keep your day job.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
Was that dumb enough for you?

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Boy? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (14:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (14:32):
Am I bored or what?

Speaker 6 (14:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (14:36):
You're bored? How long did it take you to come
up with that? That'll tell me how bored you are.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
I'm pretty quick.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Oh okay, okay, well then you're you're still sharp, you're
still working it.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
I'm sorry now, I was just I'm just working on
trying to save some broken pipes. I don't like that.
And yeah, you know, I don't want it to someone.
I don't want to get wet. I don't care if
about stuff gets wet. In fact, ice, ice actually insulates
pipe as long as it's not in contact with the pipe.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Well, that's true.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
So you wrap a towel around the pipe. You wrap
a towel around a pipe, and it rains on it
and it freezes. You're you're you're way better off.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
That's true too.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
I've gone to pipe.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
You know those little little styrofoam cones that you put
on your pigots outside.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
I'm on everyone in Ace Hardware yesterday.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Oh you're the guy. You're the guy who goes in
there towards them.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
It's fight. We're just getting started here.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
But you know at the top where it's got that
little hole where you kind of sense the string or
the little rubber cord down, well, that I consider a
vulnerable spot for the temperature if it gets really really cold.
So what I've done is I've taken that little black
plastic cap about the size of a quarter and just
yank that out. And what I've done is cut a

(16:03):
like about a a half inch thick piece of pool
noodle and duct tape that and cut a slit in
it to get that little string thing to go slide
through it, and then ductate that to the top of
that starfoam case so I have full insulation on the top. Also.

Speaker 7 (16:24):
Well, when it gets really really cold, now I have
I have pipe insulation on all my spickets and everything.
Then I put that cup on there and then I
wrap it with a towel. Then I take a like
a plastic.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
Bag from Kroger's, a little plastic bag, and then I
duct take that thing up. And if that pipe freezes,
so so be it. Man, If you got if you've
never had one freeze, if you got.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Time like that, you could probably work on some more jokes.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
I could do these things pretty quick because I've been
doing it for a long time. I mean, I'm I
used to buy hundreds of these things because I was
managing so many places. But you know, it never fails.
It's freezing, and it's fixing the freeze. I know the
lady down the street, she's gonna have her paps broken.
So I go down there and do it. Sooch, Yeah,

(17:16):
I just found them all and somebody says, man, they
ain't got any and I go, well, guess what I did.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah, come to the back of the trust.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
What I do.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
That's not a bad idea. I'll tell you another little tip.

Speaker 6 (17:29):
I go.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Let me give you one more little tip real quick.
So if you do, if you come across somebody who's
outside spigot is locked up, it won't it's cold, it's frozen.
It won't work because they didn't cover it. What I
did years ago that I fell in love with, and
I'm prepared this year too. Those little small shake them
up hand warmers you get. You take those and shake

(17:52):
it up for about five minutes and get it nice
and warm, and then rubber bandit right directly to the
spigot and then wrap up. Uh, washcloth around that and
rubber band that in five minutes and just leave it
and five minutes later it'll be thought out all the
way to the to the back of the house.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
I used duct take because I've had I have had
rubber man's gets so cold they break it.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Man, when did you live on the North Pole?

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Man? You don't remember from where you're at?

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Sure, Yeah, I hold.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
Fifty fifty miles from you. Yeah, that's that's a good
six five six breef coder.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Easy man, easily all right, But.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
Anyway, that's it. Everybody warm up because it's on the way.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
It is, buddy, I guarantee you it is all right.
Thanks Rick, it's great to hear from you. Man Audio
oh Man, Yeah, I should have told him the joke.
I told you. What do you think, Melvin Telle? I thought, Yeah,
I saw this on Facebook. It's kind of funy. It
won't take a minute, that promise. It's little kid comes home.
He tells his dad he's in trouble. I saw it them. Yeah,

(19:02):
like I said, I saw it on Facebook. So Dad,
I'm I got in trouble in school today. What happened? Said? Well,
we were talking. It's a little third grader. We were
talking in class about animals and what we get from them,
and the teacher said, what do we get from cows?
And the little girl raised her hand, and she called
on the little girl and said, cows give us beef.

(19:25):
And dad said, okay, well there's nothing wrong with that.
Then what happened? She said, and what do sheep give us?
And another little kid raised his hand and she called
on him and he said, well, we get lamb chops
from sheep. She said, that's right. The teacher said what
did pigs give us? And I raised my hand and
she called on me, and I said, homework. Melvin's laughing again.

(19:49):
Pretty good, isn't it. That was a good one because
I used to be a teacher. Oh did you now?
Oh man? Nine years Oh wow, man, what did you
teach free k through fifth grade? Pe? Oh my word,
that was kind of like a You were more of
a I don't know, a cat herder, weren't you. I

(20:11):
just tell you the horror stories of the puddles in
the middle of the floor. Oh no, man, I'm a
little too much excitement, especially yeah, for the newcomers, for
the kindergartener. Yeah, yeah, they're just getting used to it.
That's all right, seven one three, two one two five
seven ninety email me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com. Took
care of that. Took care of this, by the way,

(20:33):
in about I don't know, five minutes or so. I'm
gonna get us dialed in. I talked to Marcos Senriquez
yesterday from Gordian Sons and he just called and I
hadn't talked to him in years. I fished with him,
I want to say, once, maybe twice, and in hindsight,
back when that was going on, I wish I'd have
done it a dozen times. He's a great guy. He's
a great fly fisherman. And we're gonna talk about entry

(20:55):
level fly fishing because I haven't really addressed that in
a long time, and he brought it up, and well,
I think he called about something just about the red
fish and the speckled trout situation, I believe, and I
it just kind of triggered my omission of fly fishing
from the conversation because he is not only an excellent

(21:15):
fly fisher, but an excellent fly fishing teacher as well.
So we'll get to him on the other side of
the break. That's coming up right now. I'm gonna go
talk to Alan.

Speaker 6 (21:24):
Alan.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
What's up?

Speaker 8 (21:25):
Many morning, dude, Morning year, Happy New Year to you.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
Hey, Well, when does now you can hunt? You can
use black powder anytime the year?

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Is that correct?

Speaker 4 (21:36):
Am I incorrect?

Speaker 2 (21:37):
I believe so there's a special season for it. And
I don't wear my notes. Where's my big thing on?

Speaker 3 (21:43):
I'm assuming black powder season is like after deer season
into January.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
Am I correct?

Speaker 9 (21:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (21:48):
I'm pretty sure I have printed it all out here.
It is, Thank goodness, it's right at the top of
this giant boy. I reached into this folder that I
keep everything in a little while ago and about like
a week ago, and realize I got a one hundred
pages of stuff in there that I don't need. It's
all old. Let me get to a white tailed deer.
Come on, game animals. Oh, here we are, squirrels, white

(22:11):
tailed deer. Here we go. The muzzleloader season. That would
be January sixth through January nineteen. And if you want it,
as long as there's a legitimate sea of the general
seasons open, you can do that as well. You can't
do it. You can't do it during archery season. Yeah,
but you can do it during the general season, you can.

(22:32):
You can black powder it up right as soon as
you want to. But January sixth through the nineteenth, that's
all that's supposed to be out there except on MLD
properties exactly.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
Okay, No, I was I was correct on that. I
was just I couldn't remember the dates.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
You know, I'll confess I've never hunted with black powder?
What is it?

Speaker 3 (22:49):
That?

Speaker 10 (22:50):
Just what appeals to you about it?

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Because it seems like it extends the season when it
gets colder, and it's better to me, you know, because
like in East Texas, Central Texas, you know, it's it's
it's hot sometimes in December, right, yeah, And I'm thinking,
is I get to extend the season and sometimes it
even gets colder, which makes my hunting better, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Into a more favorable opportunity.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah right, yeah, now I got That's what appeals to me.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
So yeah, anyway, what's the biggest dear you've ever taken
with your black powder gun?

Speaker 11 (23:31):
Well?

Speaker 4 (23:31):
I don't have one.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
I want to buy one, and I'm just you know
that I'm just kind of getting into that that I
know people that got them. Yeah, and so I'm just
kind of looking around trying to get ready for next year.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, you call them in January wanting to go play
golf and now they're still deer hunting. I got great,
exactly exactly right, So all right, man, hey, thanks a lot.

Speaker 8 (23:50):
Anyways, real quick, yeah, real quick, let me just say, uh,
for people out there that don't have this because of
all this weather we're having, go buy you some quality
camping gear because there's nothing else.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
You can put a campstove on your kitchen stove and
took a meal and if you have to, you've got
a place to stay, you know, just go buy some
good camping game and just keep the stored away in
case you ever need it.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Just in case. Man, we got a lot of that
stuff around here, don't we. Thank you very siate day.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
All right, man, God blessed, Thanks you been audios.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
All right, we gotta take a little break, and as
soon as we get back, I'm gonna talk to Marco's
guitar Dave, do me a big favorite man, and hang
on and call back after I finish up with Marcos,
because we're gonna talk about fly fishing for a full segment.
And I don't want to I don't want to rush anybody.
So I'm gonna get to this break and then we'll
get Marcos going dot com.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
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Speaker 6 (24:46):
Friends.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
You've got to try. The conversation continues. This as the
Doug Fike Show.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Hey thirty six on Sports Talk seven ninety. Yes, thank you.
I appreciate that. Melvine just told me how I'm hot.
I keep looking in that camera, ain't thirty Yes, thank you?
Moving it's so flattering. I hear that'll that would be
a great movie title, You're Hot, and it'd be about radio.
Wouldn't be about pretty girls. It'd be about radio dudes,

(25:13):
and that would be a total letdown for the audience.
We're not gonna tell you what it's about, but it's
just called It's Hot. You're Hot. Movies called You're Hot.
You need to go see it. Buy a ticket now?
Oh lord, all right, welcome back. We're gonna talk to
Let me go click him in here, Marko Sinriquez, what

(25:33):
is going on?

Speaker 6 (25:34):
Man?

Speaker 10 (25:35):
How are you? I think that'd be a great show
You're Hot. I think Netflix would pick it up at
a heartbeat.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
I don't know, man, I don't even have Netflix, so
I never know it.

Speaker 10 (25:46):
Ran, you need to get with the president. Come we
get you out, dude.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
I'm watching reruns of Cops. That's what I'm doing. It's
been a long time, man. I'm so glad you called yesterday.
He just reminded me, first of all, how long it's
and since we talked, and second about how how I
have neglected And I feel I'm almost embarrassed to tell
you I've neglected fly fishing for probably the better part
of five six months. Shame on me, you know, well,

(26:13):
you know.

Speaker 6 (26:15):
Well.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
One of the reasons I don't talk that much about
fly fishing this time of years because Scott knows and
deer stands and playing with his grandkids, so I can't
can't fault him for that. And the new puppy. I
don't know if you've seen.

Speaker 6 (26:26):
His new puppy.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yeah, who has? Yeah, he's a good photographer too, so
the pictures are worth seeing. So let's let's pass up
the dogs and the deer and the grandkids and start
talking one on one here about entry level fly fishing.
And I get maybe first dispel a couple of myths.
The first I think is that it's just prohibitive, prohibitably expensive.

(26:52):
Is it fair to say that somebody coming into fly
fishing for the first time could get a decent rod
reeling line for about the same as it would cost
for a bait casting rig and loaded and loaded doubt.

Speaker 10 (27:02):
You know, Uh, we're more fortunate than today, uh than
what we.

Speaker 6 (27:07):
Were when I got into the program.

Speaker 10 (27:10):
That is to the fact that you know, with social uh,
you are able to get on Facebook, Marketplace and picked
up some great, great items next to nothing or you know, Uh,
there's so many people that have got involved into the
sport and they're wanting to pass it down to the
next generation. So yeah, I think you could definitely make

(27:32):
that statement. It's one hundred percent true. It doesn't cost
you an armal legg. It's definitely there. You know what
you've seen it.

Speaker 6 (27:38):
Uh, it's just like anything else.

Speaker 10 (27:40):
If you got somebody that's in the sport and they're
willing to, you know, show you the ropes, I'm going
to guarantee one hundred percent that they're going to go
ahead and give you the equipment because they want that
equipment used. I know, I got way too much toys
and I'm not having a little kid that wants to
partake guess what, They're going to walk away with some
pretty nice stuff that they don't have to worry about.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
I can't tell you how many.

Speaker 6 (28:04):
There's a lot of guys like that.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah, I can't tell you how many trout lures I
cut off when I was walking the jetties at Surfside
years ago and see somebody throwing something that clearly wasn't
going to do anything. And I'm on a great day
catching trout every other cast and just cut it off.
So here, tie this on your line, Try that and
oh that works pretty good. Yeah, who doesn't you know
who doesn't give a stuff away? And I'm just joking
about him, you know, as well as I did dog It.

(28:27):
I think, Yeah, Joe Dogg has got fly ros and
reels from back in the Detruman administration.

Speaker 10 (28:34):
You know, you know, his his wonderful assortment would probably
equal that of a small little no, no, I'm going
to say, probably equal to that of an academy store and.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Surfboards, and Surfboards has got those as well. Holy cow man.
So I know you guys, you guys have stuff over there,
even at your store, that is, it's a higher end store.
Let's let's face it. Okay, it is, but there's so
much room between there and where you guys are, that
there is a lot of stuff. When people come into

(29:05):
your store and buy something, they have something at the
house that just like you talk about, they're going to
put on Facebook, Marketplace or something like that where you
can pick it up for us. Just it's a steal really,
and it's still just like you said a minute ago,
the technology now is such that it's still a great
piece of gear. You just don't have to pay for
a price for it.

Speaker 6 (29:26):
Right correct, you are.

Speaker 10 (29:28):
And that's another thing is you know, we're blessed with
some of the best people here in the city, yes, sir,
that are always always looking for the latest, greatest, and
you know, just like I mentioned, they're willing to hand
it down and the stuff that they're handing down like
that mentioned is still top lone.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
I know. That's amazing. And the good part about it
is that technology has the rod technology especially, that's that's
the main that's the main part of any fly fishing
piece of gear is that rod and the technology is
so much better than when I got into it first,
probably gosh, it's been forty years ago. The rods were

(30:09):
heavy the actions were kind of not consistent slow, you know. Yeah,
so it's fun.

Speaker 6 (30:16):
Yeah, anybody that's.

Speaker 10 (30:17):
Been around knows the wonderful bamboo. I don't know if
you ever know of a bamboo bascaster. Yeah, so they.

Speaker 6 (30:25):
Were available bake back then, and then you know.

Speaker 10 (30:28):
We got fiberglass and then finally graph like so the
materials have just definitely improved. Well, the biggest one in
our industry has, I think, has been the fly lines.
The fly no doubt, really just really come on straw.
They are very technical too.

Speaker 6 (30:45):
Without doubt.

Speaker 10 (30:46):
And that's the problem with with I think anybody that's
in fishing, not just why fishing, we get those little
niches of characters that want to really get into it
and get into the banuchia.

Speaker 6 (30:58):
What we're there for you.

Speaker 10 (31:00):
We love talking, but somebody getting started what we're talking about. Uh,
let's keep it simple. Let's try to have you try
it out, see if you like it, and if you do,
then we will take you to that level. And uh,
you know, somebody wanted to get started.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (31:16):
They they feel a little hesitant because they seen it
on TV or they know a real good friends, it's
a real good fisherman, and they feel, oh my god,
this stuff is just not only it, but it looks
a little a little difficult, and it's not. I tell everybody, hey,
if you can throw a dart on on a ford
strop and if you can answer a phone, that's your

(31:38):
backstroke over your back cat, I should say, uh.

Speaker 6 (31:41):
You got it down.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
When did you come up with that answer? I'm looking
at myself right now. It makes so much sense, But
when did you come up with that?

Speaker 6 (31:50):
Oh my god, Doug.

Speaker 10 (31:53):
Like I mentioned yesterday to me, one of the neatest
challenges that I have is trying to communicate with people
where I see that light bulb just click off, and
I could see it right down with you that it
just clicked. It's like, damn it, that's so damn easy.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
That's it.

Speaker 10 (32:07):
That's why I try to tell everybody. Everybody picks it
up and they just want to whip them, but jesus
out of that port, a little buzz out of the
next year, and then before you know that, have no
fly And I'm just like, you know, the biggest problem
we have here in Houston is everybody wants to get
there yesterday.

Speaker 6 (32:23):
Oh. Everybody wants to be.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Fast, instant, gratification.

Speaker 6 (32:26):
To slow down, slow down, and you'll have it down.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
How many lessons Marcos Senriquez from over at gordian Son's
on the phone here with me. How many lessons would
you say it take for the lights to really come
on like you were talking about.

Speaker 6 (32:39):
I'm going to say three, you know. Yeah, most people, well,
the first.

Speaker 10 (32:44):
Time they want to overthink it and they go through
the motions and at the end of the lesson they'll
have one or two, well maybe a good dozen loops
that come out nicely.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (32:55):
The second lesson they're trying to get all their kinks out,
and you know, more than half of them came out
really nice. And then the third lesson, boy, they're laying
it out really pretty, and all of a sudden they
want to learn a couple other new techniques that make
them become a little more proficient.

Speaker 6 (33:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 10 (33:15):
And you know, you talk a dynamite game on on
the golfing segment, and I've heard you said once, I've
heard you said many times you got to get out there.

Speaker 6 (33:26):
And work on your your program.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Well, that's the beauty of flycasting. Drug You can practice
in just about any open space. You don't have to
you don't have to go to water even with fly
fishing to practice casting, so there's no excuse for not practicing.

Speaker 10 (33:41):
And you know, I have so many great customers that, oh,
I want to take a fly fishing on the salt,
but you know it's always windy.

Speaker 6 (33:49):
And I said, you know what, that's time.

Speaker 10 (33:50):
To really really work on your program, because if you
can handle the wind, trust me, when it lays down,
oh my god, you're going to be on fire.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
You feel like a hero. Flat call.

Speaker 6 (34:00):
No, he'll tell you the same thing. It's like, God,
if I just had these guys just work.

Speaker 10 (34:04):
On that little bit of just you know, finding that win,
he's gonna catch a lot more fish. Yeah, it's the
more you do it, the better you're gonna become.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Okay, you can answer this question if you want to,
or I'll answer it for you if you want to
defer to me. Who's the better student? Women are men?

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (34:23):
Heads down living.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
I know they you know why two words?

Speaker 10 (34:26):
They listen and they don't have any preconceived you know,
it's not about muscle.

Speaker 6 (34:34):
I love guys.

Speaker 10 (34:36):
Don't kive me wrong by My customers are guys and
I love them today. But ladies, oh, my god, I'll
take ten of you for every one of the guys.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Same with Dolf, same with shotgunning, every instructor and anything
out tours. He always says, Yeah, the women are better
at it. They learn faster. They're not necessarily better at
it a year from now, but they learn faster. They
get up to speed faster.

Speaker 6 (34:59):
At the ask ones.

Speaker 10 (35:00):
Honestly, are the young woman I'm talking about the nice
little eight to maybe sixteen year old kids.

Speaker 6 (35:07):
Oh wow, yeah, Unfortunately unfortunately hit the guys.

Speaker 8 (35:10):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (35:11):
The girls seem to be a little bit better. They
want to, you know, be with dad, or they want
to be with mom. They want to go out fishing,
and you know, you paint them a nice little picture
of how cool it is to be out of the
river and catch some fish.

Speaker 6 (35:25):
Well, they want to be there yesterday.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Hey, can you can you pause for me and hold
on to a break because I got here for you.
I here for you, all right, Marcus and Ricauz. We're
gonna get back to him. If you've got a question
you want to ask him, jump in. You don't mind that,
do you, Marcos. If somebody wants he wants it's okay, yeah, okay,
I'm gonna I'm gonna go to the break now and
I'll be back to you. Stand by. You got him
on hold? Okay, perfect, there we go.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
This is Sports Talk seven ninety online at Sports seven
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Speaker 6 (35:55):
Now more Doug Fight.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Don't here we go, Welcome back, Thanks for listening Doug
Bike Show on Sports Talk seven ninety. I've got Marto
Senriquez from Gordy and Sons on the line with me.
Still here.

Speaker 6 (36:11):
He hung around.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah, despite the fact that I asked Melbourn. I just
commented to Melbourn during the break, I said, you know,
I used to be able to just pick up the
phone and talk to my guests, but during a break
like that, but the software doesn't let us do it
in here. So Melbourn comes running in here, pushes a
button to try it now, and it just went gone.

(36:36):
So we learned. We learned something. All right, back to
you talking about fly fishing. Well, what I want to
ask is, Okay, somebody wants to get into it and
they're gonna go buy a fly rod and a fly
reel and a fly line, maybe online, maybe in the store, whatever.
What's a good introductory starting weight because the weight of

(36:57):
the rod determines a lot of what you can do
with it for a beginner.

Speaker 10 (37:02):
Great, great question. So the first thing we need to
do is, hey, why are we going to fish for
most of the time? Am I a mass fishermen? Or
am I a saltwater guy? Do I have a trip
maybe hopefully with Grandpa going to Alaska?

Speaker 5 (37:15):
Sure?

Speaker 10 (37:15):
So that tells me I'm going to want to have
a number six, seven, or eight weight that takes care
of all that category. The bigger the number, the bigger
the fly I can throw. Okay, And then if I
know I'm going to go with my dad, or I'm
going to go with mom, or we got a great

(37:35):
fishing trip up to the Rocky Mountains, or I'm my
wine just here here in local Texas streams, I'm going
to probably look at a number four or five or
six weight line and that allows me to use the
right type of flies. If I'm going to be strictly
a cold water guy, I'm going to do a lot

(37:55):
of trout fishing. That's really my game plan, because hey,
that's what I read, that's what trout fishing was real cool.
We're gonna be a trout guy. I'm gonna probably look
at three, four and five weight lines. Yeah, so still
establishing that is definitely the key if you hit the
right and then after that you know the length of
the rod. Most of the rods that are out there

(38:16):
are gonna be nine footers, right, and that's because you
can pick up a lot of line and redirect and
real neat things after you make the cast.

Speaker 6 (38:24):
Is you know what we call mending.

Speaker 10 (38:26):
But if you're a pre kind of a guy, small stream,
I'm gonna go do a little hiking. I need a
shorter rod, maybe a six to eight foot in length rot.
And most of these rods are going to be a
four piecer. There's a couple that are even five piecers
and they got great action. You don't find any dead spots. Uh,
there's still Hey, there's nothing wrong with a two piece rod.

(38:50):
The only downside about a two piece rod is it's
a little tough to fly on some of the airlines.

Speaker 6 (38:55):
But other than that, hey, it's still a great rod.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Exactly get what you can get to get in the game.
And it's kind of like when people ask me about
golf clubs, when you can tell me what benefit you
get from buying something more expensive and more technical then
you you should go ahead and invest in it, but
until you know why.

Speaker 10 (39:15):
The best advice. Yeah, you just said it right there.
If you can tell me why you need to spend
a two zillion dollars, hey, well we'll help you out
on that one. But you know, get started. Let's let's
make sure we like it, and we're gonna make it fun.

Speaker 6 (39:30):
That's the key.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
It is fun.

Speaker 10 (39:33):
I forget so many times. If you're not having fun
doing this, let's take up something else. But I think
you wanted to get into because he said, hey, this
could be fun, and I'm gonna try and make sure
you have.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
It's the fishing equivalent of bow hunting, I mean, and
that's all. I'm not the first person ever say that.

Speaker 6 (39:48):
You get it. Yeah, yeah, that is exactly it.

Speaker 10 (39:51):
It's a totally different If you want to take a
what step further of the guy that really really likes
to do either bird hunting or stalking.

Speaker 6 (40:00):
Oh come on, get.

Speaker 10 (40:01):
A hold of oh yeah, and immediately hook up with him,
and now you are doing exactly the same thing you
like to do, which is stalking redfish with a fly rod.
That doesn't get by the way, we need to get
you and your son out there. Let's go, Scott, let's go, man,
We're gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yeah, I'm glad. I'm so glad you called yesterday.

Speaker 6 (40:21):
I got to get a hold up. Is Cuz back
out there and wonderful? Sabine?

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Oh oh yeah.

Speaker 6 (40:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Well he's hanging out in Mexico and he bought a
place in Let's go down there every other weekend we.

Speaker 6 (40:33):
Have a field day.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
I'm game for that.

Speaker 6 (40:36):
I'll take a day off calling him up.

Speaker 10 (40:38):
If that's just another thing that I just segue is
if you milk some good guys that know how to
fly fish, or really are fly fishing guys, they're gonna
help your game.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Oh yeah, no doubt, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
Man.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
All right, Marcos, I got a run. I hate to
do that to you. So what how do you keep
over there at the store.

Speaker 6 (40:57):
We're hooking up, daddy O?

Speaker 11 (40:59):
All right?

Speaker 2 (40:59):
What hours do you keep over at the store.

Speaker 10 (41:01):
I'm always there ten to six Tuesday through Saturday. Another
way to get into the sport also is look at
the Texas fly Fishers. Yeah, great nonprofit group. They're always
looking for young people. They do outings here locally. I'm
talking about fishing here in Texas and they've got a
big event coming up this month. It's our fly tying

(41:22):
program on January the twenty fifth, out of Terrace United
Methodist Church, which is at twelve o three Warp Road.
That thing's been going on forever and it's a great
way to if you want to learn how to fly cast,
they're going to be doing casting. Also if you want
to learn how to make flies. It's a great way
to get into the sport.

Speaker 6 (41:39):
You know. You bring that opportunity.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Real quick before I have to go. You bring up
the flies. I would encourage anybody new to it to
buy cheap flies online on the internet because half of
them are going to end up in the trees and
the other half are going to end up snagged.

Speaker 6 (41:53):
On the bottom without a doubt.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Man, oh man, Marcus, and we can buy.

Speaker 6 (41:57):
We'd love to talk to you about the sport.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
It has been a pleasure, man. We'll do it again soon.
Thanks you bet. Happy new year, audios. What a great guy. Yeah,
he'll teach you. He Andy pack Moore that anybody over
there can pretty much teach fly fishing. Those are two
of the best I've ever known. And Marcos is so
much fun to be around. He's just a good dude.
He'll get you dialed in. We have got to take

(42:18):
a little break here at the top of the hour.
When we get back, we'll look at the golf I
might if I can find something that's a worthy price.
I don't want to use one of the Jams and
Jellies prizes, but if I can find one, we might
just tee up the Texas Temperature game. Then everybody in
the everybody on the air, everybody listening knows why I
think today'd be a good day to do it. We'll

(42:40):
be right back. We'll take a little break.

Speaker 12 (42:42):
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Speaker 2 (42:54):
Now here's Doug Pike. All right, second and final hour
of today's program starts right now. Thanks for listening. I
certainly do appreciate it very quick. You know, I went
looking for for some trade that I could have used
for black Horse Golf Club up there, off for road
in two ninety two, great golf courses, all of the
things you know about it. But I couldn't find it.

(43:17):
So I'm not going to play the Texas temperature game
today unless I just do a just do a run
through with Melvin to help him warm up before we
really get into the the guts of winter and have
some really crazy things going on. But maybe we'll get
to it, maybe we want. I want to go over
the leader board at the opposite end of the temperature spectrum.

(43:39):
The guys down at the Century in Hawaii. Poor poor
players they are, huh. I wouldn't mind being in Hawaii
right now, frankly, and for the next four days. I
could just go down there and hang out with the
likes of Hideki matsu Yama, who's leading that tournament. By
the way, he shot sixty two yesterday and wasn't the

(43:59):
only got to do that. Klin Mori Kala did the
same thing, Sung Yam did the same thing, and Deki
Matsuyama just happened to be one shot ahead of them
or one shot ahead of Marikala anyway when they started,
so they kind of finished up the same way. Twenty
seven under for Matsuyama, leading by one over Klin Morikala.

(44:22):
Thomas Detri is alone in third at twenty two under.
Park This is all for three rounds of golf. Sung
Am at twenty one, Harry Hall at twenty and it
goes on from there, which is some more incredible, ridiculously
low scores. These guys are just lighting that place up,

(44:42):
and it's pretty easy to see why if you've watched
any of it on television. The fairways are generous, the
greens are pretty large, and all in all, it's it's
these guys can just let it go off the tee.
One of the interesting staff I heard of this morning,
I think it's Matsuyama, who has in fifty four holes.

(45:06):
I'm pretty sure it's him. He has one bogie in
fifty four holes, and he has missed two greens in regulation.
He's only missed the green in regulation two times in
three rounds of golf. I missed. I missed the green
in regulation in two holes about the one round. It's amazing,

(45:29):
absolutely amazing what these guys can do when you give
them a little a little freedom to kind of air
it out. They all, in some cases, especially for the
guys in the top ten in this tournament right now,
they all seem to get even more precise, to be
even more capable. It's pretty amazing. Let me go talk
to brand and see what's going on with his new year.

(45:51):
There we are, Hey, Brandon, Happy new year man, happy
to hear.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Sorry, I turned my back around, so I was doing
the coffee.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
No, no worries. You get your coffee made, No.

Speaker 6 (46:02):
But I will do it.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Yeah, go get that done. Man. We've got two pots
going over here. Melvin and I both cooked up a
pot this morning, unbeknownst to each other. So we're bouncing
off the walls.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
What do you get up?

Speaker 2 (46:17):
What's on your mind?

Speaker 6 (46:19):
I will drink coffee with you.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Okay, come on over here. We've usually got some that'd
be all right. But next weekend, maybe next weekend. Yeah,
it's too late this weekend. I'm gonna be going out
here in a little while. But maybe next weekend or
maybe during the week sometime. That'd be better and easier
for me.

Speaker 6 (46:41):
This is my mom, Doug.

Speaker 12 (46:43):
Okay, Hi momming here.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
Hi?

Speaker 12 (46:46):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (46:46):
How are you?

Speaker 4 (46:47):
I'm good?

Speaker 6 (46:48):
How are you very well?

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Happy New Year? Happy New year to you too, fine son,
you got right there. I love his enthusiasm about sports,
I really do. And he knows a lot too.

Speaker 9 (46:59):
Keep done, tend to speak about all these different things.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Oh, yes he does. Yeah, he's a good good young man,
good young man. It's okay, man. Hey, we got a
whole nother year to talk about the Astros and the Rockets.
What do you think the Rockets Rockets are going to
end up doing?

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Rocket's doing good.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
We trying to get to win where we did get
to win.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Yeah, I'm hoping we get into the playoffs and that
they get out of the first round. That would be
something to see and the Texans haven't done that lately.
The Astros, I don't know. What do you think about
the Astros this year? Brandan thumbs up, thumbs down?

Speaker 6 (47:40):
Here, we got new park, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Yeah, I know that got a new got a new
sponsor for the park. You can do some rebranding. They're
going to have to get all new letterhead, all new decorations,
all kinds of new stuff over there.

Speaker 9 (47:54):
I'm sure excited to see how the new players do.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Yeah, very excited to see them. I'm glad. I'm glad
we're filling the holes with with experienced players. That would
have concerned me if they'd have been bringing in relatively
unproven players to fill the gaps that we're gonna have.
But these people will have experience, are gonna be good
in the clubhouse, are going to be good on the field,

(48:20):
And I'm cautiously optimistic. I think it's going to be
a pretty good, pretty good run this year.

Speaker 5 (48:28):
I'm with you.

Speaker 11 (48:29):
I'm interested to see how it turns out with these guys.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Yeah. Yeah, me too. Well, I'm gonna have I gotta
get cooking here. I got a couple of things I
need to still catch. But I appreciate the call this morning.
Thank you both very much for jumping in. You bet
we'll see you next weekend.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Bro, It's not this weekend.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
But okay, yeah, well I a plan, all right, thanks Brando.
I gotta go, buddy a d all right, let's get
back into it. Where did I want to go from here?
I got took care of Marcos. I did that. I
want to talk about the share Lunker program for a minute.
Let let me find my notes that I had that

(49:13):
I wanted to use. Where did I put them? They're
somewhere around here. I can work off of this piece
of paper here. I don't have it highlighted like I
did the other but I know what I wanted to
say about it. The Sharelunker program started on New Year's Day,
the twenty twenty five shared Toyota Share Lunker program that's
been ongoing in Texas for many, many years. And one

(49:34):
of the things, where are these papers? I had them
and I set them down and they're gone. Doesn't matter.
Toyota Sharelunker program up and running already. First, well, the
first legacy class lunker of the year. This fish was
thirteen point thirteen pounds. It takes thirteen to make that class.

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This one was Share Lunker number six hundred and seventy
and it came from the lake that has been the
reigning champion for the past four seasons of this program.
What they do, this program started many years ago, and
what they do is collect these giant largemouth bass, female

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bass that clearly exhibit superior genetics in the death they've
grown to better than thirteen pounds and up all the
way to the current and raining for got thirty something years.
I think state record Barry Saint Clair called one that
weighed eighteen eighteen out of Lake fourk so long ago

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now that I've forgotten what year it was, and it
still hasn't been beaten. Which is a sidebar story about
how frustrated I am that we can't get a twenty pounder,
but California and Florida and Georgia can we have all
these great lakes spitting out all these big bass and
we can't get a twenty pounder. I think that's coming though,
and I'll tell you why in just a minute. So

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this guy, Brady Stanford, he's from Miller's View wherever that is.
He caught that thirteen thirteen Thursday Night, just two days
into the program Thursday Night from OHIVY. And that is
the fifty third Legacy class share lunker over the past
five seasons. No, actually it's the fifty fourth, fifty three

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leading into this And what gets me is that we're
gonna see a lot more of these fish. This guy,
let me see where it is. Yeah, Shaer Lunkers six
seventy I'm reading from the Parks and Waldlafe Department's news release.
Is the second legacy class fish submitted by Stansford. His

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first came on January third, twenty twenty two, with a
fifteen O three, also from Ohivy. He's had three clients
catch legacy class lunkers in the past two years. That's
an important sentence right there. He's a guide and he
specializes in trophy fish and he's using livescope, and a

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lot of guides are now and they're they're promising their
clients that they're going to catch a fish ten pounds
or better or they don't have to pay.

Speaker 6 (52:16):
And so.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
I'm torn as to whether or not that's a good
thing or a bad thing. And by the way, he
caught his fish at night, he guys said, he came.
Let me find that little quote, the one about when
he caught the fish. Actually in any of it, I
remember reading. What he said was he pulled up on
a spot. Oh here it is. I pulled up to

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one of the spots, and within five minutes I had
the fish on pulls up to a spot, and within
five minutes he's got a thirteen pound bass. Because he
saw that bass on the scope, not because he was lucky,
but because he was He just looked right down and
there she was, and he just had to put a

(52:59):
bait in front of her. And I'm not gonna say
that we shouldn't be doing that, that this technology is bad,
and I actually think it will boost our chances as
Texans of seeing a twenty pound fish in the relatively
near future, because it enables the guys who are using

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it and the fishermen who are taking advantage of the
technology to find fish that we wouldn't probably otherwise have found,
including at some point one of them that's going to
weigh about fifteen and a half or eighteen and a
half or nineteen or twenty pounds. Maybe there's no doubt
in my mind that there are twenty pound bass swimming

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in Texas's public reservoirs. Ohiv's probably got them. Fork certainly
should have some. Sam Rayburn, maybe a couple, I don't know.
All of these lakes have given up big There are
a two dozen lakes in Texas that have given up
a lot of big fish. But that twenty pounder has

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always eluded us because by the time a fish gets
that big and that fat and that old and setting
its ways, it's already kind of figured out a place
where it can be safe for a long time. And
that's why it's been so hard for us to find
them with traditional fish finding equipment. With live scope and

(54:31):
it's equivalent from the other manufacturers who have it on
the market. Now you just ride around, You just ride
around looking for big fish. And when you see one,
you stop and you drop something down and you can
watch the fish swim over or stay where it is
or whatever. You watch the fish eat the lure, and

(54:53):
you set the hook and you start reeling. And I
I don't think it's the same as as the way
I grew up fishing, where any cast you made might
connect you to a great fish. The anticipation, the excitement
of knowing that every cast you make might hook you

(55:13):
up to a really big fish. That's some pretty good stuff,
it really is, and I'm quite frankly, I'm pretty surprised
that there's not more of that going on on the
saltwater side now. The advantage that big trout have is
a lot of them stay kind of shallow, and I
don't know that livescope would do any good in knee

(55:35):
deep to hip deep water. I'm not really that familiar
with the technology. But in any event, if Livescope's gonna
do anything that I consider really positive for this bass
fishing resource we have in this state of ours, which
is all I would say unsurpassed. But I haven't really
studied Florida lately, because Florida would certainly we're probably one

(56:00):
and two as far as I'm concerned in overall statewide
big bass fishing. But man, if if it takes Livescope
to put a twenty pounder on the books for Texas,
then so be it. I'm okay with that. I don't
think it's gonna be me who catches that fish.

Speaker 6 (56:18):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
And like I've said before, you know, if I caught
a twenty pounder and could be sure that it was
gonna go straight to the share Lunker program, I would
keep that fish. I'd put it in the live well.
And whoever's boat it was, maybe faux Pro nine can
go go find a twenty pounder somewhere. He's got the technology.
We could find that fish and catch it and contribute
it to the program. I'd be happy to be to

(56:40):
have my name hanging off of it. That'd be kind
of cool. But otherwise I'm gonna throw the fish back.

Speaker 6 (56:45):
All right.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
We gotta take a little break here. Holy cow, it
has kind of rambled and rambled and rambled about big
bass and big trout and all of those things. I love.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
This is Sportstock seven ninety face from dot com slash
Sports Talk seven ninety Back to the Doug Pike Show
by Welcome Back.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Melvin couldn't see me. His cameras broke and I was
in here. I just had to I had a slid
little email out of here real quick. That was a
tarty and I apologize to the person I just sent
it to for that. All right, let me get today then,
I'm gonna get to Chuck in this segment. Let's go Dave.
What's up, buddy?

Speaker 4 (57:20):
Well, Johnny paycheck?

Speaker 6 (57:21):
How about that singer?

Speaker 2 (57:23):
I knew you was like that.

Speaker 6 (57:25):
To him than me.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
No, No, y'are you're a little different, a little bit different?

Speaker 4 (57:32):
Yeah, different, Hey, but it was so cool to see
him up here. He had a yellow dust room that
looked like he rolled around in the mud at Cynthy Woods.
But you know, hey, no, well it's history. No, well,
I went down there. I seen some pictures because when
I just got back, I went down there to my
fishing hole right down there on eighteen thirty, okay, and

(57:53):
there was a guy there. He was He was pretty
much h parked where I would park. And that's his
I mean, that's good. I told him, I said, I
got stuff here here and here, So he doesne talk
One catfish and one bass and I put that bass
picture with him on there. Really super nice guy. I
sent it to you on Facebook. I'll check it out,

(58:14):
you know. Yeah, the way this weather's coming in, uh
right now, I'm going I got to run to the
storage thing and put some stuff up there. But in
the meantime, back at the ranch, I'll be thinking, how
can I run down there. I'm going to make me
some throw lines or something and chunk him out there
and mark them and everything else. You know, you never know, Man.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
There quick and then run back into someplace warm, buddy,
because this temperature is about to drop like a stone.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
Yes, sir, hang And the gentleman that was over there,
John John, he was over there. He had his window
roll down to the driver's seat and had his fishing
brood hanging out to the other I've done that before,
done that well he had well, no, he had the
wind to roll down on the driver's side. And he's

(59:02):
in the druges with Peter over he had that order. No. Hey, well,
you know, I'm pretty much uh schooled on hearing sounds.
And I know you, I know that you you you
advertise this. And when I got on Parker Road heading
north up here, and all of a sudden, I heard
the ping, the old ping sound on the window body,

(59:24):
and it's I know it's on the passenger side, but
that's a pretty good chip man. Say it ain't running
too bad. I'm hoping they'll be able to just plaster
it up.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Yeah, call over there to call over there to b
I P and get them to take a look or
send her a picture of them or something. They'll figure
I got you. I hope you don't need a whole
new windshield because they're not cheap.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
I know, man, but I think it's all this is
all pretty much under her insurance, because he sells insurance.
I mean, yeah, so maybe it's going to be okay.
All r I'd rather just have them she the chemical
in there, whatever, just see it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Yeah, she can probably do it. Give her a call. Hey,
I got to run, get catch old Chuck here man.

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
Hey, God, blessed man. Thanks a lot, Yo.

Speaker 6 (01:00:15):
Are you bad?

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Thank you, Dave. Happy New Year to YouTube audios. All right,
let me go see what's on Chuck's mind. What's going on?

Speaker 5 (01:00:22):
Chuck? Hey, how you doing, doctor?

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
I'm good, thanks excellent.

Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
I just wanted to thank you for introducing us to
Phoenix novesgoing on your show. Yeah, we uh, we made
a trip down there. I brought my daughter's family and
she has a seventeen year old and a fourteen year
old boy, and and of course her her husband came
along too, and they're kind of in the guns and knives.

(01:00:49):
Not me, not so much. But it was a great
outing of going down there to bell there. It's you know,
it's not that far. But the guys a Phoenix, uh
are outstanding guys. Yeah, these knemakers and uh, it's a
good experience.

Speaker 4 (01:01:06):
For the boys.

Speaker 5 (01:01:07):
They got to go down there and they forded their
own knife and so the whole, the whole process. But
Cowboy and the other fellow with the nine the knife smith,
Heath Keith is his name. They're great people. They they
talk it up. Well, it's a good experience, and I
just wanted to pass that back on.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Well man, I appreciate that a lot. I'm gonna have
Melbourne kind of pull what you just said. I'll send
it over to Cowboy. I think he'll be happy to
hear that too. That's that's what I've been trying to
tell everybody.

Speaker 5 (01:01:39):
It's a good time. I mean, you can just walk
in their brows around and they'll come up and start
talking to you and chatting it up.

Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
And they're very articulate folks.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Yeah yeah, but and they.

Speaker 5 (01:01:49):
Just explain everything from from all of you know, step
one to step ten. I mean, it's fantastic. And if
you've got time to go down there and take one
of his classes, they're really set up nice. It's it
was a good experience. I'm glad I caught that that
advertisement on your on your station there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Well my pleasure. I'm glad that you took advantage of it,
because it really is a cool place.

Speaker 6 (01:02:13):
And he's very cool.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
He's so happy to be in that new space too.
It's so much bigger for him. He was he I
could tell when he told me he was going to
be doing that that he he kind of started feeling
cramped and he wanted to do more and expand and
be able to do more events, do more knives all
of that. And he's got the space now and I'm
thrilled for him, and I'm glad you took advantage. Chuck,
thank you man.

Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
Yeah, yeah, we saw where he was expanding in his
his demo area. It's really it's really a nice looking spot.
There's been a lot of work into that thing. It
was a lot of fun. It was a good time.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Well, thank you. I appreciate the call, Chuck, I really do.
I know Calboy as well. Uh huh, excellent, have a
great day, Yes, sir, thank you. How about that? I
love that when it I love it when the thing
something goes right.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
It's just so I feel very validated. I've been talking
about Phoenix Nives for quite at some time now, and
there's the proofs in the pudding right there. Pretty good stuff. Melvin.
You want to take a swing at just a warm
up Texas temperature game just so you can kind of
be ready for next week? Maybe, why not? Let's go

(01:03:22):
for Okay, you don't even have to play the music.
I'm just gonna go. Let me get to the site
and I'm going to refresh it because i want, honest
right now temperatures and we'll just see how good you are. Okay,
what do you think is the current low temperature in
the state of Texas right now? Current low temperature in

(01:03:44):
the state of Texas. Yep, let's go, oh boy, let's
say forty one, forty one. What do you think is
the current high current high sixty seven sixty seven. Okay,
you missed the high, Melvin by thirteen degrees. Oh boy,
there is Actually it is seventy nine degrees in Brownsville. Wow.

(01:04:08):
At the other end of the state, on the north side,
at Dumas and at Perryton, the actual temperature is sixteen degrees.
What sixteen degrees Melvin. That's what's coming our way. And
thank god we got some of that seventy nine coming

(01:04:29):
from the other direction. Oh boy, so we're gonna have
a clash coming. Yeah, we're fine around here today. It's
gonna be in the seventies. So let me ask you,
this is the water the golf is going to play
an important significant part of warming up keeping us warm. Well,
the Gulf of Mexico. You and I live too far
from the Gulf of Mexico to get any real benefit

(01:04:50):
from it. But the coastal counties, yes, the Gulf of Mexico,
with it being seventy something degrees air temp and having
some warmer days recently, that'll insulate them. It's kind of
like pulling up a top sheet. It's not a blanket,
but it's a top sheet. Gotcha. Okay, And the line
of demarcation. You can just see where that front is

(01:05:12):
because in let me just pick a couple of Waco,
Robert Gray, where else Burnett, Atlanto, Fredericksburg. They're all in
the sixties. Okay, wow, Then just go a little bit
northwest of there, get to Cleeburn, you get to Commanche,

(01:05:32):
you get to Coleman and maybe San Angelo low forties already, Okay,
the wow at it says Kickapoo downtown, that's right on
the Oklahoma border. Already thirty degrees there, thirty at Lubbock,

(01:05:53):
twenty five at plain View nineteen in Amarillo. And then
it just keeps getting worse from there. I think I'm
have to cancel my morning run. No, you're gonna be
fine today. Okay, well you take an afternoon run Tomorrow morning.
It's gonna be in the thirties around here. Okay, hold
on time, We're two minutes later, aren't we.

Speaker 6 (01:06:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Kind of sort of Okay. I mentioned too, Melvin that
I'm thinking about resurrecting I think I may have talked
about it on the show or not. But a game
that I played many years ago, actually I mean many
years ago, called could I make this up? There was
a website that that had just these varying just oddball
outdoors news, and unfortunately the website met its met an

(01:06:36):
early demise in my opinion anyway, because it was it
was a fun source for weird, oddball outdoor stories. And
I turned and I turned that into a game by
taking one of those stories actually factual, absolutely true, and
boiling it down to about four or five sentences, and
then I would also totally fabricate one just made up

(01:07:00):
out of my head, and the contestant only had to
pick between one of the two to win a prize.
If I can find good prizes, and I may, I
may call on Mike Mercado for this. I just might.
If I can find good prizes for this, I'll reintroduce
the game because I happened to have that website's long gone,

(01:07:20):
but I happened to have about one hundred of those
that I kept, the hard copies that I kept at
the house, and I'll bring them up here and we'll
go through them one by one. These go all the
way back to like two thousand and five. The one
I'm looking at right now is nineteen year well that's
twenty years old now. Actually, all right, we gotta take
a little break quick.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
This is Sports Talk seven ninety a Houston sports fan
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Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Back to The Doug Fike Show nine thirty nine on
Sports Talk seven ninety The Doug Fike Show. Thank you
for listening to I certainly do appreciate it. Well, let's
get back to the phone, shall we. I'll go talk
to David first. What's up, David?

Speaker 11 (01:08:00):
Yeah, Doug gets weighing in on your comments about technology
and bass fishing. Sure, I guess if we don't already
have it, we're going to have to have something that
like free range that we use in hunting. Wiscribe the
way in which bass are caught, now, Doug, I have
to I have to believe that the majority of hunter

(01:08:23):
Texas hunter and fishermen are the kid like you and me.
I want to go out and see how big a
fish I can catch on a given day with no
little or no prior preparation. I mean, it may be
nothing more than hitting a part of the lake that
I know where they like to hang out. Sure, and
the same is true and the same I think it's
true of hunting.

Speaker 4 (01:08:43):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (01:08:44):
Yeah, there's always going to be the ones that say,
I've got I've got a deep wallet, and I'm just
going to go find somebody who can put me on.

Speaker 4 (01:08:51):
The biggest buck.

Speaker 11 (01:08:52):
It's been growing raised for how many years? But I
don't really, I know, it doesn't describe the majority of
the hunters and fishermen outside of the Maybe we're just
a little bit too overtaken by what we see on
social media.

Speaker 4 (01:09:07):
But I don't know, what do you think, Well.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
The cameras, the cameras and phishing are just an extension
of the cameras in deer hunting. You got a lot
of these ranches now they have cameras set up on
major trails. They have cameras set up around every feeder,
and they don't even have to boy. In the early
stages of cameras for around feeders trail cams, you had

(01:09:33):
to put a roll of film in it. You had
to hope the batteries stayed good, you had to hope
the things stayed dry, and then you had to go
retrieve the film, take it to the drug store or
the one hour photo place and get the images developed.
Now you can just look at your phone in real
time and see what's going on around the whole deer lease,
and that's changed that in the same way that livescope

(01:09:57):
and it's offspring change fish. And I think that the
days of you and me and how we grew up
hunting and fishing are gonna be in one full generation.
That's kind of gonna go away because we're gonna be
gone and the people who are coming up. I me,
it's just like we grew up without without cell phones.

(01:10:21):
Now everybody who's growing up has a cell phone. We
grew up without laptops everybody else. Everybody's got a laptop now.
So it's just an evolution that's inevitably going to overtake us,
and we will become the dinosaurs. And I think twenty
thirty years from now, what's gonna be different. Kind of
like you said, there'll be a special category for non

(01:10:44):
enhanced somehow, you know, and that'll be it'll be a
freak show of people who want to try it. The
throwback way. The equivalent of that now is something that
Joe Dogget, my good friend from from the newspaper years ago.
He and I have talked about a lot of times,
and he still does this quite a bit. He brings
out older rods and reels from say the thirties, forties

(01:11:07):
and fifties, the direct drive reels, and loves to fish
with those, but nobody else is doing that. I'm not
doing that. You're not doing that, and it's just because
the technology is better. And once you and I get
over the feeling that that technology is somehow cheating and
come to realize it's just different and for most people better,

(01:11:32):
it better enhances their experience the way they want to
experience it, then everybody's going to be on board with that,
and that's going to become the norm.

Speaker 11 (01:11:41):
Makes sense, you think, though, well, yeah, but you know,
so many things in life are a pendulum. Oh, I
don't think you'll get to the call up what people
just getting bored. There's no challenge and they're just getting
bored with it and quit hunting or hunting license drop.

Speaker 4 (01:11:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 11 (01:11:56):
I built my first game camera back in the day
when you couldn't buy them, and now I've got I've
got several of them now, one of them wust Sell camera.
But uh, you know, I don't think people too often
end up killing the deer that they see on the
camera because they they.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
Just I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
Sometimes we think The.

Speaker 11 (01:12:19):
Deer and fish adapt to this too, and almost know
when they're being watched and can tell when it can
recognize a camera sitting on a tree in the middle
of nowhere.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
I don't know that they react so much to the
camera as to present human presence. And I think that
cameras have maybe made people a little bit less less
aware of how much sense they're leaving behind, how much
noise they're making when they're traits around the woods, because
all they got to do, after all, is just look
at that camera and see. And then if they're going

(01:12:49):
into that stand where they saw the big deer yesterday
afternoon on the camera, if they're going into that stand
in the morning and not in slamming the door when
they get out of the truck and walking in with
a Q beam trying to find their way to the stand,
and all. Uh, there's still a place for stealth. There's
still a place for that in deer hunting.

Speaker 9 (01:13:08):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Yeah, but it's well, you just made evolution, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:13:12):
Well you made one more comment.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
You made the comment once I.

Speaker 11 (01:13:14):
Believe you did, about the fact the worst thing you
want to do is put a young kid on a
big deer and have them kill something that, you know,
a trophy deer, because it's going to kill the kill
the rest.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
Yeah, what's next. They're going to be said, what's next? Dad?
You know you've you've already killed a twelve point to
score two hundred, and yeah we're gonna go. We're gonna
go shoot a collbuck off a friend's place. It's gonna
have one antler that only branches a two point because
two on one side and nothing on the other, and
the kid's gonna go, eh, I kind of like the
one on the wall.

Speaker 11 (01:13:45):
Well maybe it's wishful thinking, but I think people are
going to get bored eventually involved the technology and say, look,
I just want to go fish.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
That's why thing at home.

Speaker 4 (01:13:53):
Let's go see the biggest fish we can catch, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
And that's why there's still all the equipment is there.
That's why in deer hunting they're still look at how
the technology in bow hunting has evolved, and then ask
yourself why there are still people out there, young and old,
who hunt with longbows. They walk through the woods with
a long bow and a quiver full of arrows, hoping
to get a shot at a deer. Because that's genetic

(01:14:18):
I think that's in US. We are still hunters, and
for some people it's okay to hunt however they want,
with cameras or fish with live scope, all of that stuff.
That's how they want to do it. But there are
still walking among us, young and old people. I talk
to young people all the time who are who are
still wanting to do it kind of the old school way,

(01:14:38):
because they get something deep inside them from that.

Speaker 11 (01:14:43):
Just like your house cabinets, stat is a tig and
still wants to go hunt birds.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
Always drag one back to the patio. Thanks David, I
appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (01:14:52):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
All right, Melvin, can I go talk to Jeff real quick?
Or you want me to wait?

Speaker 4 (01:14:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
Jeff, what's up, buddy?

Speaker 9 (01:14:58):
What about my timing in context with the coverage you
did on your military history on the air drop, the
airborne operation at the nad Zob. I was just thinking
about you when I saw this. It's called Mission to Rebol,
which is New Britain, a NonStop action in the Southwest
Pacific nineteen forty three. It's one of the Xenos Warbirds series.

(01:15:19):
I think you love the cinematography and kind of the
innocence to it. But then with the B twenty five
and twenty fours and everything else starts flying around and
straighting things. You realize what they were doing down there.
It's early nice context to Europe on how dirty and
rough it is, and what a great job they did
down there. They were in the thick of the fighting,
and I think they were badasses.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
If I got no question here, yeah, I think we're
okay with that one. You could have sett a lot worse,
and that would have had to beat in this. Since
I've been doing this show, I bet I haven't hit
the dump button five times because I first of all,
I trust this audience, and I know that all of
you know that there are a lot of kids listening.
So it's just worked out that way. I got. I

(01:16:01):
got refined people listening to this show.

Speaker 9 (01:16:03):
Jeff, Well, it's got shipping aircraft P. Thirty eighth B
twenty fours, B twenty five man on the ground digging
out land and making room for a new aircraft with
this primitive equipment. Amazing second or third and priority. And
they did a better job and killed worthy the enemy
than anybody else in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
So tough bunch, man, tough bunch, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:16:21):
Thank you for see you next week.

Speaker 9 (01:16:22):
I'll be on the air.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Absolutely, Thank you very much. Audios. All right, we got
to take a last little break in the program. All
the way out.

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Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
This is the Doug Pike Show. All right, Welcome back,
nine fifty four on Sports Talk seven ninety Doug Pike Show.
I was mentioning to Melbourne. I don't know if I
talked about it on the air or not this could
I make it?

Speaker 6 (01:16:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
I did talk about could I make this up? Didn't
I didn't I do that? Melbourne? You sure did? Okay, good.
So I'm gonna give you just a sample of how
this works. I'm gonna read you two stories and they're
very short, don't worry, not gonna take a long and
I want you to decide which one's true and which
one I totally made up. Are you ready? Story number one?
A Taiwanese company makes a full line of fishing flies.

(01:17:07):
It's kind of appropriate since we were talking to Marcos earlier,
made from the hair of cats, which it says has
superior quality to traditional hairs and furs depending on the
breed cats produce hairs in a broad range of colors
and consistencies. Even the whiskers are used as antenna of
shrimp for salt water flies, and the manufacturer points out
that all the cat's hair grows back. The animals are

(01:17:30):
kept in nice, huge air conditioned rooms and pampered and
don't seemed at all to mind being shaved on occasion.
Story number two. Some West Virginians say that unless deer
numbers come down, valuable but slow growing American gensing could
be wiped out of the Appellationians. One group wants to
reintroduce mountain lions to take care of the deer, and

(01:17:52):
another one to loosen hunting rules. Sidedists say that deer
and genseng have coexisted in those mountains for centuries. Last year,
some ten thousand West Virginians dug up more than three
tons of the stuff, valued at more than two million dollars.
Which of those two stories is true? True? A dear story,
the hair story, yeah, the dead hair oh, the deer

(01:18:14):
story yes today. And the Appalachian Mountains, Yeah, that one
is true. It was from the Wilmington Star. I just
made up the one about cat hair flies. Yeah, when
you had to be going for a little while until
you they said, you said that they were putting them
in comfort air conditioning climates. Why would you not take
care of you? How many house cats you know that

(01:18:35):
don't live in an air conditioned house? That's true to
see see see, and I have I have about one
hundred of those. I would say conservatively, have one hundred
different ones we could we could draw from. I'm ready,
I am too. I'll find a prize. I'll find a prize.
At one point, back back when that was going on,
says here, the prize for that was a trip for

(01:18:56):
two on Captain Elliott's party boats, the loft shore fishing trip.
I might see if they're still in business and call
them down there in Freeport back in the day, back
in two thousand and five, had a very good relationship
with that company. And actually I did a listener trip
where we just had the whole boat me and like
twenty five people went out all day offshore. It was fun.

(01:19:19):
I could still do that. I think I can pick
my day. I just roll down there on a calm day.
I'd be good at that. I've had enough of being
bounced around on boats. I don't like being offshore when
it's super rough anymore. But I do like being outside,
that's for sure. I hope you all do as well.
Thank you all for listening. It's been my pleasure. I'm
glad to be back in the saddle. I look forward

(01:19:42):
to talking to you again next Saturday and Sunday here
on Sports Talk seven ninety and then on Tuesday, I'll
be back in for the next episode of fifty plus.
For those of you who are in the category or
care about someone who is, there'll be all kinds of
good stuff for you to hear about on that show.
Thanks for listening, Happy New Year to everybody. Audios

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