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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Luck and load, so Michael Verie Show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
The US is the first time in the history of
the world where a government was organized with a constitution
laying out the rules that the individual was supreme and gone.
And that is what led to the US becoming the
greatest country ever because it unleashed people to be the
best they could be, unlike it had ever happened. That's
American exceptionalism.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
And they may well ask why climb the highest mountain
by thirty five years ago?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Why the Atlantic? Why does Rice play Texas? We choose
to go to the moon. We choose to go to
the moon. We choose to.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Go to the moon and dis decay and do the
other thing, not because they are easy, but because they
are hard.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
If we look to the answers as to why for
so many years we achieved so much, prospered as no
other people on earth, it was because here in this
land we unleash the energy and individual genius of man
to a greater extent than has ever been done before.
Freedom and the dignity the individual have been more available
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and assured here than in any other place on Earth.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Jim Kosaki.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
On MSNBC last night said that Kamala Harris is as
likable Hillary Clinton. She went on to add magical charismatic
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quality in person. People say that about Hillary Clinton. Also true,
Literally nobody has ever said that about Hillary Clinton, especially
not her poor, long suffering husband Bill. The only cad
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in America who can be caught, how best to say this,
the only cad in America who.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Can be caught.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
And at a moment where every dude in America is
looking away because nobody wants to stand up for him,
but secretly everyone is muttering, Well, Hillary, I mean, can
you imagine her just.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Badger in you?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I mean, can you imagine how unpleasant she is? The
quintessential white liberal woman of the seventies eighties, the quintessential
white liberal woman who was constantly talking about shattering glass ceilings.
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That the woman who wasn't shattering anything. They were drafting
on real pioneers who didn't need to talk about being
women all the time. Hillary Clinton was to shattering glass
ceilings for women what Al Sharpton is to being a
pioneer for blacks. The really read, the real heroes don't
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keep talking about who and what they are.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
But in any case, to the phone lines we.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Go Joe, You're on the Michael Berry Show seven one, three, nine,
one thousand.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Go ahead, good sir, Morrian Michael. I got two questions.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
First question is.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
This the knowing what we know about the Chinese?
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Did the Democrats really think if God forbid they were
to sell this country out, that the Chinese would allow
them to live? The second question is why do they
hate our country so much. I've been following politics that
I was fourteen years old, and I cannot figure out
why they.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Hate our country, the Democrats or the Clinton.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
Well, the Democrats, I'm I mean, I remember the fourtant
about twelve, fourteen years old. I don't even like Clinton,
but you could tell that he.
Speaker 7 (05:04):
Loved his country.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
And then hold on, hold on, hold on, remember this.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Bill Clinton is one of the most effective campaigners in
American history. One of the reasons is Bill Clinton is
and this is every serial killer has to have this asset,
every Ponzi scheme, fraudster has to have this. Alan Stanford
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had it, Burning Madeoff had it. Bill Clinton is pathological.
It is a sign of weakness on your part and
the part of everybody who is not Bill Clinton that
you believe that deep inside him is a core of conscience,
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because there is not Bill Clinton's decision making is what
is good for Bill Clinton at this moment. Bill Clinton's
great skill is to be able to cover for that
after the fact. You know, the great sadness for long
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time Rush fans is the rush you saw after two
thousand was not the rush you saw during the eight
years of the Clinton presidency. Because in my mind, for
my money, that was the best Bill Clinton, that was
his peer, that was his generation. He knew Bill Clinton
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for everything he was. Bill Clinton was the excesses of
the Woodstock era. He was the excesses of the seventies.
He was the excesses of Democrat politics the way they
were practiced, and Rush understood it so beautifully, and he
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ridiculed it so beautifully because so much of that generation
was caught up in the throes of this momentum that
led to men like Bill Clinton and women like Hillary Clinton,
and he was so good at pointing it out. So no,
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Bill Clinton did not at his core love this country.
Bill Clinton loves Bill Clinton. And this goes back to
John the earlier call there is a naivete to people
who believe that other people are like them.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
This is you know, the first.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Time you drive past a homeless guy on the street
and your kid says, you know, mommy, why can't we
bring him home with us? He doesn't have a home.
Why can't we go get him and bring him home
and he can live with us. We have an extra bedroom.
It's a very difficult thing to explain that.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
It's tough.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
You sound evil, and you think, gosh, why can't I
Why can't I have the idealism of my child, because
you are burdened by the experience of reality. Reality is harsh.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Reality isn't goody.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Reality isn't the fairy dust and rainbows. Reality is murder
and theft and betrayal, and wisdom is living beyond this
in your life?
Speaker 7 (08:50):
It's we have all your formal wear needs, from morning
suits to coordinating accessories.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Do we ever find out if she was okay or not? Walking?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You walking?
Speaker 7 (09:16):
You know?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I remember about this video.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
His belt was either too tight or too loose, but
he was jiggering with it the whole time. I don't
know if it was cutting off his circulation or his
words breches.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Were gonna fall.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I couldn't really tell, to be honest with you, Let's
go to Bill number two, Ramon, can you yep, there
we go, Bill number two. You're on the Michael Berry Show.
Go ahead, sir, edit card to me.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Michael listening this morning, and with R.
Speaker 8 (09:52):
S K dropping out of the supposedly the race in Arizona,
would we have this popular it's a Democrat I guess
lineage with Clinton, Obama and Biden. If h Rossberode doesn't
run against George Bush, people forget that was that was
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not even polarity. Less than forty five percent of the
vote votes went toward Clinton. If that's snuff there, we
may not even be seeing this right.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
But good question. Bill. Let me take those in pieces
to start with.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Whether Clinton wins or not. Remember it's not it's not
the popular vote. So Clinton wins forty three percent if
I remember correctly, I think it's forty three point seven.
But Clinton wins forty three percent of the popular vote.
But you need not win the popular vote to win
the White House. So the last president to win the
popular vote was George W.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Bush. And that's okay, that's that's not that big a deal.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
But Piot's almost twenty percent certainly came largely at the
expense of George H. W.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Bush.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
And if you look at the states where Pierrot did well,
it states that Bush lost Clinton I and Bush probably
would have won. Now the question then becomes, does how
do we trace the twenty two, sorry, the ninety two
election thirty two years later? And I will say this,
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I don't think you can blame the current strain of
liberalism on Bill Clinton.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
In fact, something else was happening.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
The Republican Party in ninety two was becoming more establishment
and becoming more what Trump would later call swamp, and
the Democrat Party was gravitating more toward the center. Let me,
I'm gonna put you on hold for a second because
it's gonna take me a minute to explain.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
But here we go. In nineteen seventy six, the.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Republican Party had an opportunity to put Ronald Reagan in
and the base wanted Reagan. Reagan whose motto was make
America great again. People are shocked when I tell him that.
Or you had the guy who was real popular in
the halls of Congress that America didn't know, named Gerald Ford.
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And the establishment wanted Ford not because they loved Ford,
but because they could control Ford. Ford was a company man.
Ford was the general who doesn't question. War Ford was
the executive who doesn't question anything that's being done by
the chairman. Ford is a placeholder and Ford had no
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business ever being the nominee. And it's largely why he lost.
People will tell you it's because of the pardons to Nixon.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
That's not why he lost.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
But more importantly, Ford wasn't Reagan, and Reagan was preaching
the message.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Of the everyman, that that that the.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
American citizen, the working man, the family man was getting
the shaft and the people who were the CIA, the FBI,
And that's what the Bush family represented, the CIA, the FBI,
that that group of people who were now beginning to
consolidate their power. And I think that group of people
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are the ones who pushed Nixon out. I do not
that Nixon shared all of my views, but that's another subject,
all right. So, so you've got eight years of Reagan,
eight years of a booming economy, eight years of very
similar to try up economics. There are a lot of
comparisons to Reagan and the Reagan supporter versus say, the Bushes.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
And the Romneys and their ilk.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Then in eighty eight there is not a Reagan heir
to whom the torch could be passed. Bush sat quietly
as the VP. Bush has the resume that a lot
of people want to see. He has the CIA. He
was in Congress, he's been the Vice president. He sat
quietly through the Reagan years. He's lived down the voodoo economics,
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which is what he called Reagan's supply side economics. It's
been eight years since he was on the national board
of nay Roll, which is the abortion organization. By this
time he can make the argument he's pro life, he's
desperately trying to be the candidate of conservatism, which he
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is not. Now you can say he's a good guy.
You can say he's from a good family. You can
say he's financially successful. You can say he's about dignity
and honor. Is very Mike Pence in this way. He's
about dignity and honor and doing the right thing and
saying the right things and not saying using the right fork,
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using the right knife, using the right spoon, having the
proper place settings, having the guest list a name at
every seat, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Bush is great at.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
He's great at diplomatic core kind of things. He's got
the Protocol down Emily Post would approve.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
But when.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Bush gets elected, he raises taxes the Americans with Disabilities Act.
People forget how bad that was for businesses. The thing
he did that made him popular was the incursion into Saddam,
But he didn't finish the job. He's at over ninety percent.
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The base never cared for him, The base never loved him. Remember,
Pat Buchanan runs against him in ninety two in the
Republican primary and does better than people. Remember, but when
Clinton gets elected, Clinton moves the Democrat Party more toward
the middle. The Bush campaign in legacy, and that's the
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Romney wing. Who do they put up in ninety six?
Bob Dole even worse. By two thousand, w has learned
the lessons. You've got to look more like Ronald Reagan
than your dad if you want to win, and that's
how they pitched him. But you still needed the consummate
insider to actually run things and keep the establishment in charge.
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And that's where Dick Cheney comes in. So you've got
the Bush is in four two thousand and four, and
then you've got McCain, the ultimate inside keating five, inside dealer,
his entire life.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Oh but he's a war guy.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
So McCain bumbles it in eight and Romney in twelve,
and then Trump comes along in sixteen to clean this
thing up again. In the meantime, the Democrat Party is
falling leftward. If Hillary wins in eight, then the country
would look very differently and not nearly as bad, believe
it or not, because Obama winning in eight was when
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the Democrat Party was hijacked by the extreme radical left,
and we've never recovered from that.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Listening to the Michael Berry.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Show on one thousand, Democrats didn't get the bump they
hoped for. RFK Junior expected to leave the race today
and endorse Donald Trump. I don't make predictions because you
can be right ninety nine times out of one hundred,
but the one you're wrong. People who trust your jojudgment
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love to point out that you missed the one without
the credit for the ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
But if in.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Fact, as it appears, there is a decent likelihood OURFK
Junior endorses Donald Trump, that would be a big moment
in this campaign. And folks say to me, well, I
don't know anybody as far AFK. You don't need to
You probably don't know any transgenders either, do you You
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probably don't know anybody that has severe down syndrome. You
probably don't know anybody who's a mechanic that lost their
right arm.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
They're out there.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
And when you add up different groups of people, just
because the people who are just like you, who are
in your fraternity, live in your neighborhood, went to school
with you, work at your firm work. Yeah, we tend
to surround ourselves without realizing it with people that are
just like us. But we got to go get people
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over the right. You might not know anybody who's a
hardcore Bill's Mafia fan. It travels with the Bills around
the country and goes to every game. But they're out there.
There's a lot of them, and the point is we
need their votes. Paul, you're on the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
Sir, good morning, Good morning. I have three quick points.
Speaker 9 (19:20):
One you mentioned earlier you had Bill Clinton talking about
the border and illegals coming across. That should be a
Republican ad. The Republican Party believes in securing the borders,
and so does Bill Clinton. And then you played Bill Clinton.
You should every Republican ad should have the Republicans believe
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in this, and so does this Democrat from the past,
Chuck Schumer, Hillary whoever, whoever said the Republican position today,
sure in the past should be should be a Republican
ad to say, the Democrats, you.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Want another one?
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Harry Reid, who was a longtime Senate majority leader, the
leader of the Democrats in the Senate before Chuck Schumer,
far more powerful than them. I think this was ninety three.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yeah, well maybe not.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Then you got it, Ramon, you got it. Oh, he
may be taking that call. Yep, you got that, Harry Reid. O. No, no,
the Harry Reid would Yep.
Speaker 10 (20:29):
If making it easy to be an illegal alien isn't enough,
how about offering a reward for being an illegal immigrant?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
No, same country would do that, right.
Speaker 10 (20:39):
Yes, again, if you break our laws by entering this
country without permission and give birth to a child, we
reward that child with US citizenship and guarantee of full
access to all public and social services this society provides.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
And that's a lot of services.
Speaker 10 (20:57):
Is it any wonder that two thirds of the babies
born at tax for expensive country county run hospitals in
Los Angeles are born to illegal alien mothers.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
Yeah, so that from the point Republicans should be running
ads with that in.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
A part of the ad.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Right, Okay, yeah, no, no, I hear you.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
To whom should they run those ads?
Speaker 7 (21:25):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
To whom?
Speaker 7 (21:27):
Where?
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Where should they run those? Where should they?
Speaker 7 (21:29):
Well, those would be the ady on TV. On TV,
you'd say this Republican party, or even even on the radio,
I guess it would work, or even in any media.
But you start out with the Republican this is a
Trump ad, and then you segue into the Democrat position
from the past, and you say, even the Democrats believe
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in me.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
I'm gonna put you on hold because I got to
get a guy on that's been holding forever.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
But but I understand that. But here's the problem. When
I play that to you.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
You know who Harry Reid is, and you know who
Bill Clinton is, and you understand the history. When you're
talking to somebody who's twenty eight, who's undecided, who's independent,
who is not as aware, and you're promoting for just
a second, Bill Clinton, then tomorrow, when Bill Clinton gives
the speech, or this week when Bill Clinton gives the
speech of Kamala Harris, you inadvertently built him up for
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his endorsement of Kamala Harris because he doesn't believe those
things anymore. I understand it feels like that would be
the right thing to do, but you have to understand
that when you're trying to message to people who you
only have about one percent of their attention one percent
of the time, your messaging has to be more simple
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and direct.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Every day I get everybody's.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
A political consultant, and every day I get emails from
people saying, tell Trump to do this.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Okay, well all right.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Yeah, but I actually don't think it's a good idea.
I wish it was, but I'm in a long form
radio format here I can play that with you. You have
a lot of knowledge that doesn't work for a low
information voter. We're trying to win low information voters.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
That's the goal. That's where you win or lose. Bill,
You've been very patient. Sorry, I understand you're eighty one
years old. You have till the end of the segment,
which is about a minute and a half. My apologies
for that part.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Thank you, Michael.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
I had a joke about Clinton.
Speaker 11 (23:30):
I just happened to be working in the Little Rock
area during his first presidential campaign, and the local newspaper
up there, I actually printed bumpersickers said elect Clinton president,
we need a new governor.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I have spent so much time understanding Clinton's time in Arkansas,
and of course he changed quite a bit when he
went beyond Clinton as most people know.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
One.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
I think it was eighty nine to ninety one was
his first term and he lost.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Frank was a orrible what was the guy's name that
beat him?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Anyway, there was a guy who beat him, a Republican
who beat him for his re election, and then he
would Clinton beat him again the next time and then
hold on until the rim one for president.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
But it was raising taxes. It was raising the fee
on your auto registration renewal.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
That was the number one thing he did that cost him,
and he learned from that.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
But now, Michael Berry, this is my impressionation of Hillary
Rodman Clifford.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
This is all part of a.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Vast right wing conspiracy. I don't recall, No, I don't
recall the answer to that.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
That's not in my recollection. I was the last person
in the country to know that my husband had an affair
with Mordica Namiscus. I've came too fur to turn back now,
I ain't no ways hard What difference do it make
at this part?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
What difference do it even make up?
Speaker 5 (25:27):
In here?
Speaker 4 (25:29):
I had Michael Berry.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Continue with your program.
Speaker 8 (25:31):
I'm gonna go sit down and smoke a while.
Speaker 9 (25:33):
That's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Here on the Michael Berry Show. Welcome to the program, sir, Barry.
How are you, sir? Good? Go ahead, Michael Berry.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
I was thinking, do you think Donald Trump maybe cut
a deal with RFK to drop out to be board
member or cabinet member?
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Sorry? Possibly, yes, and I'm comfortable with that.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
Well, I kind of thought the same thing, so.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Thought I had yes. Well, no, I think you're I
think there's a chance of it.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
First of all, I'm I'm willing for Trump to sell
Vermont and well at least Vermont to the highest bidder
in exchange for getting to be president. We're at the
point now that we have to do everything possible, and
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I mean everything possible to win this election and take
the White House because the Democrats are going to and
we can't lose another one.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
It will be the end, I'm certain of it.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
We will live in a miserable state that will only
get worse and most importantly, will never be able to
fix it.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
There's not another Trump waiting.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
DeSantis is the strongest candidate, and I don't know that
DeSantis has the broad based.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Appeal that Trump does.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
And for folks that think he does, DeSantis hadn't been
put through the ringer yet the way they have Trump.
I don't know how many people who would have held
up to that. I really don't. The other thing, you
have to remember that a lot of people don't understand
there are more sides to Trump than the average Trump
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fan has witnessed.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
He's a deal maker.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
If you are a deal maker, you learn very quickly
that everything's for sale. And people tell you something that's
not for sale, they're just trying to drive the bidding up.
Everything is for sale. It may not be dollars, but
it is. There's a pain threshold, there's an incentive. The
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night that Donald Trump was shot, he was on the
phone with RFK Jr.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
And there was.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
A bit of a kerfuffle over the fact that Trump
was talking to RFK JR. Who was who was being interviewed,
and they and he did it on the speakerphone, and
they did not turn off the camera, so the conversation
was recorded. It's nothing embarrassing, nothing that would be a problem.
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But he had not told Trump that he said he
didn't know, don't I don't know whether he knew or not,
but either way that that's not my concern. My concern
is the fact that that conversation happened. I don't think
Trump goes back and says, get RFK Jr.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
On the phone.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
I think RFK Junior says, may I speak to President
Trump and offers his thoughts and prayers. And RFK Junior
lost his father and his uncle to assassination. I think
he probably felt he wanted to share some thoughts with
President Trump at that moment, and who in the country
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better than rfkor could share at that moment in the
way none of us could understand. I think this has
been brewing for some time. RFK Junior is a protest
against Biden, against the establishment, against the deep state. What
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Trump is managing to do is cobble together a coalition
of folks who may not agree on every social issue,
read on every issue period, and may look at things differently,
but they're strong willed people. R FK Junior elon Musk,
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the kinds of people who have a very very healthy
distrust of the deep state and who themselves have been
targeted by it for refusing to bend to it. And
so Trump the ultimate deal maker. He's going back to
what he's good at. Trump had to be mister Republican,
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mister conservative. That's not who he is. He's a deal maker.
He's a guy who figures out how to get people
to agree in under one tent. He's charismatic, he's personal,
he's likable, he's charming, he's he's charismatic, and I think
he's doing a good job at exactly the right moment
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getting to the point he needs to be to cobble
this thing together to win the election. Because he can't
simply win more votes in each state whose electoral VOTEAM needs.
He has to win by a beyond cheatable, a cheat
proof majority. It's called because there will be cheating in
Philadelphia for Pennsylvania, there will be cheating in Detroit and
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Dearborn for Michigan. There will be cheating in Milwaukee. We
know these things. There will be cheating in North Carolina.
And you've got to win so big that it's cheap
proof
Luck and load, so Michael Verie Show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
The US is the first time in the history of
the world where a government was organized with a constitution
laying out the rules that the individual was supreme and gone.
And that is what led to the US becoming the
greatest country ever because it unleashed people to be the
best they could be, unlike it had ever happened. That's
American exceptionalism.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
And they may well ask why climb the highest mountain
by thirty five years ago?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Why the Atlantic? Why does Rice play Texas? We choose
to go to the moon. We choose to go to
the moon. We choose to.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Go to the moon and dis decay and do the
other thing, not because they are easy, but because they
are hard.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
If we look to the answers as to why for
so many years we achieved so much, prospered as no
other people on earth, it was because here in this
land we unleash the energy and individual genius of man
to a greater extent than has ever been done before.
Freedom and the dignity the individual have been more available
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and assured here than in any other place on Earth.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Jim Kosaki.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
On MSNBC last night said that Kamala Harris is as
likable Hillary Clinton. She went on to add magical charismatic
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quality in person. People say that about Hillary Clinton. Also true,
Literally nobody has ever said that about Hillary Clinton, especially
not her poor, long suffering husband Bill. The only cad
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in America who can be caught, how best to say this,
the only cad in America who.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Can be caught.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
And at a moment where every dude in America is
looking away because nobody wants to stand up for him,
but secretly everyone is muttering, Well, Hillary, I mean, can
you imagine her just.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Badger in you?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I mean, can you imagine how unpleasant she is? The
quintessential white liberal woman of the seventies eighties, the quintessential
white liberal woman who was constantly talking about shattering glass ceilings.
(03:37):
That the woman who wasn't shattering anything. They were drafting
on real pioneers who didn't need to talk about being
women all the time. Hillary Clinton was to shattering glass
ceilings for women what Al Sharpton is to being a
pioneer for blacks. The really read, the real heroes don't
(04:05):
keep talking about who and what they are.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
But in any case, to the phone lines we.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Go Joe, You're on the Michael Berry Show seven one, three, nine,
one thousand.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Go ahead, good sir, Morrian Michael. I got two questions.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
First question is.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
This the knowing what we know about the Chinese?
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Did the Democrats really think if God forbid they were
to sell this country out, that the Chinese would allow
them to live? The second question is why do they
hate our country so much. I've been following politics that
I was fourteen years old, and I cannot figure out
why they.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Hate our country, the Democrats or the Clinton.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
Well, the Democrats, I'm I mean, I remember the fourtant
about twelve, fourteen years old. I don't even like Clinton,
but you could tell that he.
Speaker 7 (05:04):
Loved his country.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
And then hold on, hold on, hold on, remember this.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Bill Clinton is one of the most effective campaigners in
American history. One of the reasons is Bill Clinton is
and this is every serial killer has to have this asset,
every Ponzi scheme, fraudster has to have this. Alan Stanford
(05:39):
had it, Burning Madeoff had it. Bill Clinton is pathological.
It is a sign of weakness on your part and
the part of everybody who is not Bill Clinton that
you believe that deep inside him is a core of conscience,
(05:59):
because there is not Bill Clinton's decision making is what
is good for Bill Clinton at this moment. Bill Clinton's
great skill is to be able to cover for that
after the fact. You know, the great sadness for long
(06:21):
time Rush fans is the rush you saw after two
thousand was not the rush you saw during the eight
years of the Clinton presidency. Because in my mind, for
my money, that was the best Bill Clinton, that was
his peer, that was his generation. He knew Bill Clinton
(06:49):
for everything he was. Bill Clinton was the excesses of
the Woodstock era. He was the excesses of the seventies.
He was the excesses of Democrat politics the way they
were practiced, and Rush understood it so beautifully, and he
(07:11):
ridiculed it so beautifully because so much of that generation
was caught up in the throes of this momentum that
led to men like Bill Clinton and women like Hillary Clinton,
and he was so good at pointing it out. So no,
(07:34):
Bill Clinton did not at his core love this country.
Bill Clinton loves Bill Clinton. And this goes back to
John the earlier call there is a naivete to people
who believe that other people are like them.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
This is you know, the first.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Time you drive past a homeless guy on the street
and your kid says, you know, mommy, why can't we
bring him home with us? He doesn't have a home.
Why can't we go get him and bring him home
and he can live with us. We have an extra bedroom.
It's a very difficult thing to explain that.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
It's tough.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
You sound evil, and you think, gosh, why can't I
Why can't I have the idealism of my child, because
you are burdened by the experience of reality. Reality is harsh.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Reality isn't goody.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Reality isn't the fairy dust and rainbows. Reality is murder
and theft and betrayal, and wisdom is living beyond this
in your life?
Speaker 7 (08:50):
It's we have all your formal wear needs, from morning
suits to coordinating accessories.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Do we ever find out if she was okay or not? Walking?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You walking?
Speaker 7 (09:16):
You know?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I remember about this video.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
His belt was either too tight or too loose, but
he was jiggering with it the whole time. I don't
know if it was cutting off his circulation or his
words breches.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Were gonna fall.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I couldn't really tell, to be honest with you, Let's
go to Bill number two, Ramon, can you yep, there
we go, Bill number two. You're on the Michael Berry Show.
Go ahead, sir, edit card to me.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Michael listening this morning, and with R.
Speaker 8 (09:52):
S K dropping out of the supposedly the race in Arizona,
would we have this popular it's a Democrat I guess
lineage with Clinton, Obama and Biden. If h Rossberode doesn't
run against George Bush, people forget that was that was
(10:15):
not even polarity. Less than forty five percent of the
vote votes went toward Clinton. If that's snuff there, we
may not even be seeing this right.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
But good question. Bill. Let me take those in pieces
to start with.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Whether Clinton wins or not. Remember it's not it's not
the popular vote. So Clinton wins forty three percent if
I remember correctly, I think it's forty three point seven.
But Clinton wins forty three percent of the popular vote.
But you need not win the popular vote to win
the White House. So the last president to win the
popular vote was George W.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Bush. And that's okay, that's that's not that big a deal.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
But Piot's almost twenty percent certainly came largely at the
expense of George H. W.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Bush.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
And if you look at the states where Pierrot did well,
it states that Bush lost Clinton I and Bush probably
would have won. Now the question then becomes, does how
do we trace the twenty two, sorry, the ninety two
election thirty two years later? And I will say this,
(11:33):
I don't think you can blame the current strain of
liberalism on Bill Clinton.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
In fact, something else was happening.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
The Republican Party in ninety two was becoming more establishment
and becoming more what Trump would later call swamp, and
the Democrat Party was gravitating more toward the center. Let me,
I'm gonna put you on hold for a second because
it's gonna take me a minute to explain.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
But here we go. In nineteen seventy six, the.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Republican Party had an opportunity to put Ronald Reagan in
and the base wanted Reagan. Reagan whose motto was make
America great again. People are shocked when I tell him that.
Or you had the guy who was real popular in
the halls of Congress that America didn't know, named Gerald Ford.
(12:35):
And the establishment wanted Ford not because they loved Ford,
but because they could control Ford. Ford was a company man.
Ford was the general who doesn't question. War Ford was
the executive who doesn't question anything that's being done by
the chairman. Ford is a placeholder and Ford had no
(13:00):
business ever being the nominee. And it's largely why he lost.
People will tell you it's because of the pardons to Nixon.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
That's not why he lost.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
But more importantly, Ford wasn't Reagan, and Reagan was preaching
the message.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Of the everyman, that that that the.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
American citizen, the working man, the family man was getting
the shaft and the people who were the CIA, the FBI,
And that's what the Bush family represented, the CIA, the FBI,
that that group of people who were now beginning to
consolidate their power. And I think that group of people
(13:45):
are the ones who pushed Nixon out. I do not
that Nixon shared all of my views, but that's another subject,
all right. So, so you've got eight years of Reagan,
eight years of a booming economy, eight years of very
similar to try up economics. There are a lot of
comparisons to Reagan and the Reagan supporter versus say, the Bushes.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
And the Romneys and their ilk.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Then in eighty eight there is not a Reagan heir
to whom the torch could be passed. Bush sat quietly
as the VP. Bush has the resume that a lot
of people want to see. He has the CIA. He
was in Congress, he's been the Vice president. He sat
quietly through the Reagan years. He's lived down the voodoo economics,
(14:38):
which is what he called Reagan's supply side economics. It's
been eight years since he was on the national board
of nay Roll, which is the abortion organization. By this
time he can make the argument he's pro life, he's
desperately trying to be the candidate of conservatism, which he
(14:59):
is not. Now you can say he's a good guy.
You can say he's from a good family. You can
say he's financially successful. You can say he's about dignity
and honor. Is very Mike Pence in this way. He's
about dignity and honor and doing the right thing and
saying the right things and not saying using the right fork,
(15:22):
using the right knife, using the right spoon, having the
proper place settings, having the guest list a name at
every seat, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Bush is great at.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
He's great at diplomatic core kind of things. He's got
the Protocol down Emily Post would approve.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
But when.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Bush gets elected, he raises taxes the Americans with Disabilities Act.
People forget how bad that was for businesses. The thing
he did that made him popular was the incursion into Saddam,
But he didn't finish the job. He's at over ninety percent.
(16:03):
The base never cared for him, The base never loved him. Remember,
Pat Buchanan runs against him in ninety two in the
Republican primary and does better than people. Remember, but when
Clinton gets elected, Clinton moves the Democrat Party more toward
the middle. The Bush campaign in legacy, and that's the
(16:26):
Romney wing. Who do they put up in ninety six?
Bob Dole even worse. By two thousand, w has learned
the lessons. You've got to look more like Ronald Reagan
than your dad if you want to win, and that's
how they pitched him. But you still needed the consummate
insider to actually run things and keep the establishment in charge.
(16:49):
And that's where Dick Cheney comes in. So you've got
the Bush is in four two thousand and four, and
then you've got McCain, the ultimate inside keating five, inside dealer,
his entire life.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Oh but he's a war guy.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
So McCain bumbles it in eight and Romney in twelve,
and then Trump comes along in sixteen to clean this
thing up again. In the meantime, the Democrat Party is
falling leftward. If Hillary wins in eight, then the country
would look very differently and not nearly as bad, believe
it or not, because Obama winning in eight was when
(17:31):
the Democrat Party was hijacked by the extreme radical left,
and we've never recovered from that.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Listening to the Michael Berry.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Show on one thousand, Democrats didn't get the bump they
hoped for. RFK Junior expected to leave the race today
and endorse Donald Trump. I don't make predictions because you
can be right ninety nine times out of one hundred,
but the one you're wrong. People who trust your jojudgment
(18:01):
love to point out that you missed the one without
the credit for the ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
But if in.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Fact, as it appears, there is a decent likelihood OURFK
Junior endorses Donald Trump, that would be a big moment
in this campaign. And folks say to me, well, I
don't know anybody as far AFK. You don't need to
You probably don't know any transgenders either, do you You
(18:28):
probably don't know anybody that has severe down syndrome. You
probably don't know anybody who's a mechanic that lost their
right arm.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
They're out there.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
And when you add up different groups of people, just
because the people who are just like you, who are
in your fraternity, live in your neighborhood, went to school
with you, work at your firm work. Yeah, we tend
to surround ourselves without realizing it with people that are
just like us. But we got to go get people
(18:59):
over the right. You might not know anybody who's a
hardcore Bill's Mafia fan. It travels with the Bills around
the country and goes to every game. But they're out there.
There's a lot of them, and the point is we
need their votes. Paul, you're on the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
Sir, good morning, Good morning. I have three quick points.
Speaker 9 (19:20):
One you mentioned earlier you had Bill Clinton talking about
the border and illegals coming across. That should be a
Republican ad. The Republican Party believes in securing the borders,
and so does Bill Clinton. And then you played Bill Clinton.
You should every Republican ad should have the Republicans believe
(19:41):
in this, and so does this Democrat from the past,
Chuck Schumer, Hillary whoever, whoever said the Republican position today,
sure in the past should be should be a Republican
ad to say, the Democrats, you.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Want another one?
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Harry Reid, who was a longtime Senate majority leader, the
leader of the Democrats in the Senate before Chuck Schumer,
far more powerful than them. I think this was ninety three.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yeah, well maybe not.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Then you got it, Ramon, you got it. Oh, he
may be taking that call. Yep, you got that, Harry Reid. O. No, no,
the Harry Reid would Yep.
Speaker 10 (20:29):
If making it easy to be an illegal alien isn't enough,
how about offering a reward for being an illegal immigrant?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
No, same country would do that, right.
Speaker 10 (20:39):
Yes, again, if you break our laws by entering this
country without permission and give birth to a child, we
reward that child with US citizenship and guarantee of full
access to all public and social services this society provides.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
And that's a lot of services.
Speaker 10 (20:57):
Is it any wonder that two thirds of the babies
born at tax for expensive country county run hospitals in
Los Angeles are born to illegal alien mothers.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
Yeah, so that from the point Republicans should be running
ads with that in.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
A part of the ad.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Right, Okay, yeah, no, no, I hear you.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
To whom should they run those ads?
Speaker 7 (21:25):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
To whom?
Speaker 7 (21:27):
Where?
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Where should they run those? Where should they?
Speaker 7 (21:29):
Well, those would be the ady on TV. On TV,
you'd say this Republican party, or even even on the radio,
I guess it would work, or even in any media.
But you start out with the Republican this is a
Trump ad, and then you segue into the Democrat position
from the past, and you say, even the Democrats believe
(21:50):
in me.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
I'm gonna put you on hold because I got to
get a guy on that's been holding forever.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
But but I understand that. But here's the problem. When
I play that to you.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
You know who Harry Reid is, and you know who
Bill Clinton is, and you understand the history. When you're
talking to somebody who's twenty eight, who's undecided, who's independent,
who is not as aware, and you're promoting for just
a second, Bill Clinton, then tomorrow, when Bill Clinton gives
the speech, or this week when Bill Clinton gives the
speech of Kamala Harris, you inadvertently built him up for
(22:26):
his endorsement of Kamala Harris because he doesn't believe those
things anymore. I understand it feels like that would be
the right thing to do, but you have to understand
that when you're trying to message to people who you
only have about one percent of their attention one percent
of the time, your messaging has to be more simple
(22:47):
and direct.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Every day I get everybody's.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
A political consultant, and every day I get emails from
people saying, tell Trump to do this.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Okay, well all right.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Yeah, but I actually don't think it's a good idea.
I wish it was, but I'm in a long form
radio format here I can play that with you. You have
a lot of knowledge that doesn't work for a low
information voter. We're trying to win low information voters.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
That's the goal. That's where you win or lose. Bill,
You've been very patient. Sorry, I understand you're eighty one
years old. You have till the end of the segment,
which is about a minute and a half. My apologies
for that part.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Thank you, Michael.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
I had a joke about Clinton.
Speaker 11 (23:30):
I just happened to be working in the Little Rock
area during his first presidential campaign, and the local newspaper
up there, I actually printed bumpersickers said elect Clinton president,
we need a new governor.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I have spent so much time understanding Clinton's time in Arkansas,
and of course he changed quite a bit when he
went beyond Clinton as most people know.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
One.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
I think it was eighty nine to ninety one was
his first term and he lost.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Frank was a orrible what was the guy's name that
beat him?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Anyway, there was a guy who beat him, a Republican
who beat him for his re election, and then he
would Clinton beat him again the next time and then
hold on until the rim one for president.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
But it was raising taxes. It was raising the fee
on your auto registration renewal.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
That was the number one thing he did that cost him,
and he learned from that.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
But now, Michael Berry, this is my impressionation of Hillary
Rodman Clifford.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
This is all part of a.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Vast right wing conspiracy. I don't recall, No, I don't
recall the answer to that.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
That's not in my recollection. I was the last person
in the country to know that my husband had an affair
with Mordica Namiscus. I've came too fur to turn back now,
I ain't no ways hard What difference do it make
at this part?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
What difference do it even make up?
Speaker 5 (25:27):
In here?
Speaker 4 (25:29):
I had Michael Berry.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Continue with your program.
Speaker 8 (25:31):
I'm gonna go sit down and smoke a while.
Speaker 9 (25:33):
That's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Here on the Michael Berry Show. Welcome to the program, sir, Barry.
How are you, sir? Good? Go ahead, Michael Berry.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
I was thinking, do you think Donald Trump maybe cut
a deal with RFK to drop out to be board
member or cabinet member?
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Sorry? Possibly, yes, and I'm comfortable with that.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
Well, I kind of thought the same thing, so.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Thought I had yes. Well, no, I think you're I
think there's a chance of it.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
First of all, I'm I'm willing for Trump to sell
Vermont and well at least Vermont to the highest bidder
in exchange for getting to be president. We're at the
point now that we have to do everything possible, and
(26:41):
I mean everything possible to win this election and take
the White House because the Democrats are going to and
we can't lose another one.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
It will be the end, I'm certain of it.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
We will live in a miserable state that will only
get worse and most importantly, will never be able to
fix it.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
There's not another Trump waiting.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
DeSantis is the strongest candidate, and I don't know that
DeSantis has the broad based.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Appeal that Trump does.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
And for folks that think he does, DeSantis hadn't been
put through the ringer yet the way they have Trump.
I don't know how many people who would have held
up to that. I really don't. The other thing, you
have to remember that a lot of people don't understand
there are more sides to Trump than the average Trump
(27:36):
fan has witnessed.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
He's a deal maker.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
If you are a deal maker, you learn very quickly
that everything's for sale. And people tell you something that's
not for sale, they're just trying to drive the bidding up.
Everything is for sale. It may not be dollars, but
it is. There's a pain threshold, there's an incentive. The
(28:07):
night that Donald Trump was shot, he was on the
phone with RFK Jr.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
And there was.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
A bit of a kerfuffle over the fact that Trump
was talking to RFK JR. Who was who was being interviewed,
and they and he did it on the speakerphone, and
they did not turn off the camera, so the conversation
was recorded. It's nothing embarrassing, nothing that would be a problem.
(28:39):
But he had not told Trump that he said he
didn't know, don't I don't know whether he knew or not,
but either way that that's not my concern. My concern
is the fact that that conversation happened. I don't think
Trump goes back and says, get RFK Jr.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
On the phone.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
I think RFK Junior says, may I speak to President
Trump and offers his thoughts and prayers. And RFK Junior
lost his father and his uncle to assassination. I think
he probably felt he wanted to share some thoughts with
President Trump at that moment, and who in the country
(29:25):
better than rfkor could share at that moment in the
way none of us could understand. I think this has
been brewing for some time. RFK Junior is a protest
against Biden, against the establishment, against the deep state. What
(29:51):
Trump is managing to do is cobble together a coalition
of folks who may not agree on every social issue,
read on every issue period, and may look at things differently,
but they're strong willed people. R FK Junior elon Musk,
(30:13):
the kinds of people who have a very very healthy
distrust of the deep state and who themselves have been
targeted by it for refusing to bend to it. And
so Trump the ultimate deal maker. He's going back to
what he's good at. Trump had to be mister Republican,
(30:38):
mister conservative. That's not who he is. He's a deal maker.
He's a guy who figures out how to get people
to agree in under one tent. He's charismatic, he's personal,
he's likable, he's charming, he's he's charismatic, and I think
he's doing a good job at exactly the right moment
(31:00):
getting to the point he needs to be to cobble
this thing together to win the election. Because he can't
simply win more votes in each state whose electoral VOTEAM needs.
He has to win by a beyond cheatable, a cheat
proof majority. It's called because there will be cheating in
Philadelphia for Pennsylvania, there will be cheating in Detroit and
(31:22):
Dearborn for Michigan. There will be cheating in Milwaukee. We
know these things. There will be cheating in North Carolina.
And you've got to win so big that it's cheap
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