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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Its last Sorry, folk marks closed. The moves all factured.
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Bag.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
For some reason or another, you sign a little tola
on radio. Sarah writes, I just want to brag on
my kid for a second, anytime. Earlier this week, she
started her senior year at Sam Houston State University. Alana
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is twenty years old and absolutely brilliant. She's majoring in biology,
minoring in forensic science with a concentration in cellular and
molecular biology. She has managed to scholarship her way through
her senior year and has even made money with leftover
scholarship funds. My husband and I could not be more proud.
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She is a blessing for gut from God. Thank you
for letting me brag. You're always welcome folks to email
me a brag on your kid. Always welcome to do that.
Go to Richard. Richard, you're on the Michael Berry Show.
Go ahead, Sir.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Michael. I. Uh, I'm a Gringos supporter. I go to
Gringos uh once a week. I go every Thursday, and
my wife and I eat at the Taxis City store
and uh we go to the same uh waitress and
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everybody in the store knows knows us. They don't know
us by name, but they know us, and uh they
uh they see.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
This in her in her area.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
But the thing that I wanted to talk about is
Greenos has a chaplain And I didn't know if you
knew that or not. I do. And his name is
Sam Hernandez. And Sam goes from all the stores and
uh he uh he ministers to uh you know the
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people there. He helps out. Uh he's a he's a
tremendous uh blessing for Gringos. And I didn't know if
anybody knew that Gringos had a chaplain. I know you
talk about Gringos all the time, and uh I I
uh have got to know the guy. And he's a
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super super fine fellow. Along with Gringos. Uh, I love
their menus there's three things that I really like. Uh.
One is a coast of male chicken salad and it's
a it's a thing of beauty just to look at
without even eating. His strawberries and grapes and has pecans,
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and of course it has the avocados and the chicken
and all that is one one super of course, it's
one of those things that's a seasonal thing that comes
and goes, but it's it's good. And uh, Gringos has
really good people working for him. The little the little
waitress that works for us has been there for four
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years and her name is Andrea. She knows her job.
She's on top of the game. She is really really good.
I listened to talk to people, you know, and in
other Boosh has maybe three or four tables, and I
can listen to her talk to other people. But she
has a heart of gold, and uh, she enjoys and
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loves working for Gringos.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I've tried to talk her into getting into school and
getting an education and all of but she she she
says she's going to but she hasn't done it. But
I didn't know if you knew about Sam being the chaplain.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I do know of Sam. When Russell brought him on on,
he sent me a message and he was really really excited.
He had wanted to do that from very long long
time and it has It has been, I think, more
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rewarding than anybody expected. We had a call on the
show about three months ago from a guy who was
going through a difficult personal family issue, and I honestly
don't remember what it was. His kid had been in
a rack, or his mom had cancer, I don't know,
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and everybody's going through something, and I guess it showed
on his face. And Sam came around to his table
and he said, you know, how are y'all doing? I'm
the chaplain And the guy said, boy, am I glad
you're here. And he began to kind of unload on him,
and he said, would you mind if I prayed with you?
And right there in the middle of the restaurant, he
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prayed with them at their table, took both him and
his wife by the hand and bowed his head and
prayed for them. And the guy said, it floored me,
It comforted me, it centered me, and I just thought, well,
that's the nicest thing, but to have a chaplain in
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your company for your executives, for your staff, for your customers.
It's really been I think a bigger blessing than perhaps
even Russell expected it to be. And he travels just
like Jonathan Kim, who is the director of Well now
he's the president, but it was the director of operations
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for years. But he's still the director of operations. He
just wears a bigger hat and gets a bigger paycheck.
But that I get a kick. I'll call Jonathan any
day of the week, including Saturday and Sunday, and he's
out at a location, he's doing a site visit. Because
they are buttoned up. When you see somebody who runs
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a business that they are not actively engaged in, chance
says are the customer service is just not the same
standard as it would be if if if you were.
It's just it's just that simple. You said something else
after that that triggered me to think of something. Oh,
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I know you, I know you mean well, but it's
a personal peeve of mine and I'm going to say
it and I don't want you to think that. And
I'm picking a fight or trying to make you feel
bad because I'm not. There was a fellow I knew
very well who told Rico, our director of security, Hey,
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you know you ought to go back to school. And uh,
this was a friend of mine. Uh, you got to
go back to school and get you a degree while
you're here. And Rico said, why, well, you know, go
to school, get a degree. And Rico made more money
than this guy, but he didn't. But this guy didn't
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know it. I understand that there was a time, especially
for older people, where there were two paths. You went
to school or you went to prison. Maybe you go
to the military in between, and then you go to school.
We got to get off this idea that people who
are gainfully employed and enjoy what they do and are
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able to make money with upside, that these people need
to go to school. What do y'all think they're going
to go to school to do? Get a psychology degree
and then what come out and go right back to gringos.
Do you know how much you can make if you're
a good servant, how much you can make as a manager.
It would surprise you. We need to stop telling people
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they need to go to school. I don't know what
that school. It's not going to help them get a job.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
This is.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I don't know what's your name, say Michael, Buddy. Disagreement
is sometimes I guess you know what album this is
off of. I've told you this ten times in nineteen years.
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The band is called The Outfield, the album is called
Play Deep. Lead singer died a couple of years ago
of the cancer, which means I'll never get to see
them live. I had a girlfriend. I was a freshman,
she was a senior. She was a cheerleader. I was
a dork. She had a car I didn't, and she
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bought me this cassette and didn't have a cassette player.
So I said, how about we put it in your
car when you come pick me up and take me
out on a date. I can listen to my song
another good on there sixty one seconds. That's a good
that's a good album right there. The Outfield played Deep.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
It's weird thing about that song. It wasn't a you know,
one of the biggest hits of the eighties. It's not
free Bird. It's not significant for any particular reason. The
Outfield never really got outside where they were as a
you know, just kind of a minor pop band. But
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you will hear that song in sports stadiums and maybe
just because I'm very attuned to the song, but I'm
I'm it's interesting to me how often I hear this
song played. It's what does Tom Rahan call it? It
is a preference by us. It is something there's a
there's a term for that phenomenon. When you know, if
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you buy a white Silverado truck, all of a sudden
you notice every white Silverado truck because it's you're you're
more attuned to it. But I know, don't read too
much into this, but sometimes if I disagree with someone
and I want to express that, that doesn't mean I
think they're an idiot. I don't mean to show them
a lack of respect. I don't mean to dishonor them.
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I'm pretty sure Richard's quite a bit older than me.
But this is an important point. So I want to
go back to it because it's happened to me a
number of times over the years where someone who worked
for me, who I strove to compensate, perhaps higher than
the market would bear, because I wanted to provide as
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much for them as I could, and I wanted to
show them within my means, how important they are to
me and the work that they do and then to
have someone including friends, especially friends, who when you go
to the bathroom, they're like, man, you know, Michael really
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likes you. He really appreciates the work you're doing. You know,
how are you going to stay doing this job? I
don't know, because you I mean you could do anything.
I mean you really And they think they're giving that
person a compliment. Well, it's it's disruptive to building an organization.
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You know. Not everybody is on a ladder climbing expedition
where their goal is to be the CEO of a
fortune five hundred company. For some people, I give a
great example my buddy the Aggie plumber. I did this myself,
so let me beat up on myself. Here my buddy,
the Aggie plumber, Michael Robinson. He is a small plumbing shop.
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He worked for his dad from the time he was
eight years old, and eventually they began that process which
you know, you're lucky if you can do this, where
you start buying out dad. You know, in your thirties,
you start to take ownership of Dad. Now Dad gets
a little check for the rest of his life. So
it's a succession plan and you get to work with
Dad and you know it's Robinson, Aaron and and plumbing
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plumbing in air. I don't know, it doesn't matter, And
you know he doesn't want to be Abbocus Plumbing. Abocus
Plumbing is our show sponsor. They handle, you know, our
listeners and their plumbing needs. Michael has his set of clients,
set of customers in college station that his dad had,
and he takes very good care of him. A lot
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of little old ladies that are by themselves and they
turn on the faucet and it's not hot and they
just want hot water. But I said to him sometime back,
I I said, you don't work enough, You're lazy, You're
you're you know, you're always available when I need you
to come to town and join us for a party
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or do this, or do this. One day, he said,
you know, I know this is hard for you to
understand because you're a very ambitious person, Michael. But I'm
very happy with the life I have. He's he's got
a hundred kids. I don't like Robert Ree. He's got
a bunch of kids and you know they're in their
teens now, and he's very focused on them. He's a
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very focused dad and husband, and you know, he said,
you're right. I could work two or three more hours
per day into the night, the way my dad did
building the business, but that time is more important to me,
spent with my family. And this is a marathon on
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a sprint, and I'm comfortable. I have a house that
I own, I have a truck that I own. I
can pay my handful of employees, and we don't want
for anything. We don't need to be rich. We live
in college station. We're happy here. And it was a
real wake up call to me because I've always been
a person who tried to motivate other people as I
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motivate myself. Everybody can work harder, everybody can do more,
everybody can make more, everybody can accomplish more. And some
people are very comfortable right where they are, not because
they've settled, not because they're lazy, not because they're a loser.
They have found that state of being. And for some people,
they're means of earning a living. It's not how they
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define themselves, it's not how they.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Know.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
They don't need to say this or this the way
many of us do. That's not the primary thing about
them they want known. Maybe they want to be a wife,
maybe they want to be a mother, maybe they want
to be an attentive PTA president for their kids, or
maybe they want a homeschool. Or maybe they're a guy
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that wants to make enough to pay the bills and
put food on the table and have plenty of time
to work on an old car, play golf, hunt fish,
do projects around the house, do woodworking. And it's taken
me till much later in my life to understand that.
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And and it is, uh, it is a be still
and know that I am God moment. Sometimes you've got
to stop buzzing around. And I've been so guilty of
it my entire life. And and so I myself I
give people advice that I myself am often giving to myself.
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And and uh one of those, especially for older people,
is telling young people who are working hard and doing
the right things that they need to go to school.
That you you need to go to school. Uh, you
can go to college, get you a degree. Why why? Uh,
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well you need to get that degree. You seem a
very nice person. But no, no, you don't need to
get that degree. That's just it. Who made that rule.
There was a time when it was very hard to
go to school. Now they make it very easy. You
know what else it's easy to do. Get a visa
card when you turn eighteen doesn't make it a good idea.
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You can get all the credit you want. They'll put
you in a new vehicle, they'll put you in a
new house, they'll put you in a stereo system, they'll
put you on a cruise, and lord knows, they will
sign you up for fifteen hours. Not everybody should go
to college. Many people should not go to college. And
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if you don't have a burning desire, you certainly shouldn't,
and nobody else on the outside should be telling you
you should. Please don't take my comment as scolding Richard.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
It's the sweetest thing possibly called up and bragged on it.
I'm saying. I'm using that as an example of something
I say a lot. So if you got kids they're
not ready to go to college and they're working, support
them in that. Activate the Michael Barry Show, that was
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Natricia called about her husband that kept talking over me.
She's so proud of her husband and so supportive of
her husband. And if every woman was, then I wouldn't
need to make that point. Men should honor their wives,
support their wives. It's funny to me how many people
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view a man's respect for a woman solely on the
basis of whether or not they go out and corrals
or not. I've seen men that go home every day
when they get off work and sit in the living
room and bitch at their wife the whole time and
get up the next day. They don't go father children
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by others women, they don't hang out in the bars,
and they make their wife's life miserable. I don't think
that guy's a great guy, but a lot of women
are so jealous and insecure that that's how they've come
to measure a man. That's not the measure of a man.
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There's so much more to what a man should be
Honoring his wife, caring for his wife, making his wife
feel like the princess she was as a little girl,
making his wife feel appreciated for what she does. My
wife will sometimes say, it's very odd for me when
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you say thank you. My oldest son, Michael doesn't take
compliments well either, or appreciation. But she will say, I
guess he gets that from her, And now I think
about it, she'll say, it's very I never know how
to respond when you thank me for something that I
was going to do. Anyway, I don't thank you, so
you'll do it again. I thank you because I'm appreciative.
But that was sort of the manners I was taught,
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and so perhaps it's not for you, it's for me.
That's what I was raised to do. You say thank you,
you say sir and ma'am. It's just it's natural to me.
It would be odd if I didn't do it. And anyway,
but I think it's important to tell your spouse when
they do things for you that it matters to you.
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It means something to you. And I think ladies in
many ways, I think that your role in the household
supporting your husband. That doesn't mean you don't have a career.
You may make more money, you may be the one
that works and he stays home with the kids. But
I will tell you we're built differently than you are,
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and we have a need that only you can provide.
Our friends can't provide it. A television can't provide it.
Compensation and at the office cannot provide it. It is
this sort of approval. It is this sort of I
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think approval. Is it knowing that we are providing emotionally, financially.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
It just.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Troubles me how often I see in marriages two people
who are not nice to each other. That's the person
you're going to spend your entire life with you with,
and even if you don't spend your whole life with
them because you end up divorced, that's the person you
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spend your down time with. That's the person you're building
something with. Why wouldn't you honor them and treasure them.
That's not a ball and chain. That person made a
commitment to you. That person gave up all efficientcye to
be with you. So no matter how low down you
think they are or dumb or whatever else, you're the
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choice they make. So maybe you exhibit a. I just
wish people would be nicer to their spouse. That's it.
Just be nicer to your spouse, say nice things, defend
them in front of others, don't tell their secrets, don't
make them look bad when you have guests. Don't point
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out their physical flaws because pretty good chance you have
your own. I don't think you want them pointed out either.
Did you really want to be married to supermodel? Because
I've known some people that fit into that category. And
they're not wife material, I'll tell you that. And the
pretty girls you're seeing in the movies and the magazine covers,
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they've been through fifteen hours of makeup and surgeries and
spray tan and everything else in order to capture just
that right photo. And guess what. She's not cuddling up
to you every night. She's not bringing you coffee in
the morning, she's not baking the cake that you love.
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She's not going to dinner with you and splitting a
dessert because her whole focus is on her and not you.
So if you both want to be really focused on
her all the time, I've had friends that do that.
I've had friends that marry what they think is the
arm piece, and they find out that the only person
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more into that woman is that woman than them is
that woman. And that's the old I want to be
married to a woman that all my friends are jealous
I'm married to her for No, they're not not if
they come around very often. Because if you come around
very often, it turns out that she has no time
left for you. She's all focused on her because she
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needs the attention not only of you, but of every
other person in this world. And that generally becomes tiresome.
I've seen that happen all too often.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Let's go to George. George, you got one minute, sir.
Sorry I came to you so late in the in
the segment, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
You've hit your sweet spot.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Brother.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
You remind me of all those things I used to
hear on the Interstate thirty five running from the Loop
back down to Laredo and back up. All them boys
out there in the middle of nowhere talking about what's
for sale and who the funerals are for today. I
think you finally hit your sweet spot. Man, you were
the for sales in the funerals.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I would do it. I would do. I would do
the cafeteria menus I would do. I would know your
GT radio in a minute. I would I would absolutely
love it whole tight. I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna
give you more time. But Eddie Martini, the guy that
got me into radio.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
He jokingly tells people that if I had my way,
I would do swap shop or tradio, whatever you want
to call it. And he says his worst fear is
one day he's going to tune in to the evening show,
which is on across the country, and there I'm going
to be doing swapshop. Somebody in Oregon is selling, be
selling a dozen hens, and some guy in Miami wants
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and I'll say, yeah, yeah, that's that's kind of the goal.
Very two thousand is this pet Shop Boys?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I wasn't paying attention to Eddie called me during the
brain I'm trying to do a show. We're here, No,
we're not. In true I thought this was boys who
like girls, who like girls, who like boys who like
boys who like girls. Huh no, no, no, do pet
shop boys? See what year that is? So it's a
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very different way I consume music like that. It's not
like Mickey Gilly, where I can tell you the month
and year it came out because I love it. It's
more sort of all right, what grade would I have
been in? Where would I have been going when this
was on Casey's B ninety five out of Oh my Yeah?
Is that same song? Oh see, I wasn't paying attention
to that. See that that whole blur and linked one
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eighty two. That's you and Chance. That's dumb music to me.
It's on in the background. I'm not mad at it,
But I mean, I can't. I just I think it
would be tragic that that would be the music of
your formative years, you know. Then again, the music of
my formative years is also tragic, and for some reason,
I think that I was eighteen in nineteen seventy eight
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when I was eight. But that's those are my issues.
That's what I'm working through. George. Yeah, with an encore presentation,
what do you do for a living? George?
Speaker 3 (26:50):
If we're gonna have theme music for me, it ought
to be George straight. Maybe I'm not here for a
good time. I'm here for a long time.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
That stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
No, I'm not here for a long I'm here for
a good But I know what you meant.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
She don't know, she don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
She's beautiful. That'll fit into That's what Nobody has to
go to school. You don't go to school if you don't.
If you're just going to go, trust me. I've got
two undergraduate degrees in four years in graduate school at
the medical Center, and I have worked in the hospitals
for twenty years as a medical technologist. I did research.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
My dear little mother.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
From Johnson City, Tennessee. I have a son that's your age.
I'm damn near your father's age. There's about six degrees
of separation between you and me, because I am almost
certain I would got two dollars to a donut that
my wife's father worked with your father at DuPont and
ramone's got my phone number. You can send me a
text message and well do you know.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
What unit now? But I'm father and all worked in.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
He ran the maintenance department.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Jimmy Gallup, how do you spell his last name?
Speaker 3 (27:58):
I have a son your age?
Speaker 1 (28:00):
How do you spell Jimmy's last name?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Gallup?
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Just like the town out there in New Mexico.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I'm not hearing the end. It's trailing off, so you
have to spell it for me.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
I'm sorry, Gallup g A L l Up as in
the town in New Mexico.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Oh, I don't know Gallup, Mexico. Do you know Gallup,
New Mexico? I know the Gallup poll. Yeah, I know
that's different Gallup hundreds of times.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Anyway, that's that's that's a difference.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I think you're I think your comments are well placed,
and you know, unfortunately, there's very little room for nuance
when you're doing a show. Otherwise you speak in parenthetical
statements because I do think some people should go to college.
College was right for me. College was what I wanted.
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But I can tell you I was one of less
than ten percent. That doesn't make me great, doesn't make
me extra smart. Some people think that. Some people think
that's what all this means, and it doesn't. You're dealing
with a lot of preconceived notions, so that when you
make a statement, a lot of people run with that,
and you think everybody's a dumb dumb No, I don't.
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I think some of the smartest people I've ever met
never went to college. I think that some of the
most financially successful, professionally successful, personally successful, happy people didn't
go to college. I don't believe that college is the
panacea for every problem, and I don't think people quite
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understand whether they went there or didn't go there. They
both tend to share this notion that we have to
go to college when you don't realize how much money
it costs. And it's a point in your life where
you're at an experimental phase. You're thinking very hard about
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the opposite sex. You're looking to potential, if not just
hook up, you're looking to begin a family or a
serious relationship, and school is incompatible in most cases with that,
especially if you're working class growing up. So all of
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these things and then there is the cost. Just look
it up online. The numbers will astound you. The cost
of higher education relative to inflation. Higher education has increased
multiples of inflation. And the reason is when you increase
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the demand without increasing the supply, what does that do
on the axis? It drives the cost up. You got
more and more people wanting to do this, so now
you've got more and more opportunities to make money in
this business. There's probably no more no place that sees
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more construction going on in Austin, Texas right now than
the University of Texas campus. It's also true of most
every other campus in the country. These universities are just
growing and growing and growing and growing, dorms, you name it.
We're pouring more. And I'm not opposed to the university.
People get Michael, how can you say it? I'm going
to game tomorrow. I'm a root for them lawhorns, and
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like you're not, I'm a root for them lawhorns.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
I thought sending make tea to college you'd be supporting them, lawhorns.
You ain't supporting them, longhorns.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Tall.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Has nothing to do with that, you goober. It has
everything to do with let's help each child who is
different than my child and your child and Ramon's child.
Let's help each child find their way in this world.
They've got to find their way. But let's give them options.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
And let's stop telling all of them that we're gonna
squeeze them through this shoot right here, that's going to
send them out on the other side, because that's going
to inspire riches and professional success and happiness, because it's not.
And you got a lot of people waiting tables with
a psychology degree and some of them have a PhD.
(32:13):
Oh my, And it doesn't get you a single dollar
more tip, and it usually makes you a lot less server.
And by the way, what's wrong with being a server?
A lot of people who are professional bartenders servers, Especially
if you're working for a place like Gringoes Federal American
Grill Caravas. Most people you can make good months a
(32:34):
career