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Speaker 1 (01:17):
Lest we forget, we will be through the course of
the program remembering this day September eleventh, two thousand and one,
when nineteen terrorists hijacked four commercial planes. The first two
struck the Oral Trade Center twin towers. The third plane

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struck the Pentagon. The fourth plane crashed in rural Pennsylvania
after the passengers revolted. Let's roll. Two thousand, nine hundred
and seventy seven people almost three thousand in total, were murdered.
A number more would die, quite a few more inexact

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how many from the injuries suffered as the towers were collapsing,
and sadly, many of those were the first responders who
were saving lives and did save many lives. It was
also eleven years later on the exact same date for

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a reason that in Benghazi, Libya, our station was attacked there,
and in both cases it was Muslims attacking Americans. In
both cases it was Americans being attacked because we are Americans,
and in both cases it was people whose ideology still

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exists to this day who wished to destroy us. Well,
of course, we're going to talk about the debate last night,
and take a deep breath. We're going to take some calls.
Before you call, I would ask you to think about
exactly what you're going to stay in a manner in
which you can structure it so that it's not a rambling,

(03:12):
angry outburst, but rather a simple, straightforward statement. I'm sure
you've heard of all of the theories, whether it's Kamala
Harris wearing an earring that is Actually the answer is,
I don't know. It is credible to believe that these

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people would cheat. We're not going to catch them one
hundred percent of the time, nor are one hundred percent
of the allegation's false. You do without what you want,
but I can't confirm or deny any conspiracy or allegation
or article that you received or thing that you heard
You'll just have to decide that for yourself. We will, however,

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accept answers as in thoughts as to the debate last night.
But how is one to process what happened? How is
one to assess in a meaningful way what happened? Well,
let's start with this. Remember that your vote is already cast,

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so that debate probably didn't affect your vote. The only
thing about that debate that matters is did anyone who
was already voting for one or the other candidate change
their vote? That is a person who's an actual voter. Remember,
many people don't vote. They have opinions, but they don't vote,

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so their opinion doesn't matter because the only opinion counter
that matters is the voting system. Secondly, did it cause
undecided voters to cast a vote? Did it bring them

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to a conclusion as to how they will vote? Well,
you have to start with the fact that anyone who
is still undecided at this point is undecided because they
are probably dispassionate about the affairs of this country, and
the likelihood that they're watching is very, very low. The

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type of person who is undecided is not a person
who's highly engaged as you are with what's going on.
It's also the person who's much easier to doupe with
an effort like Kamala Harris pulled off last night. In fact,
that is by design. But what we don't know yet

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is how this will affect those people whose votes were
already determined. CNN held a poll last night, and interestingly,
the biggest issue on voters' minds is the economy. Every
poll consistently has shown that on that issue, Trump improved

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his standing in the CNN poll. His lead on the
economy improved from fifty three to thirty seven, which is
a sixty which is a sixteen percentage point lead, to
fifty five thirty five. She went down from thirty seven
to thirty five. He went up from fifty three to

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fifty five. She needed to reduce that gap from the
sixteen that he enjoyed. Instead, he increased it to twenty.
That's important. Mark that down as in the middle of
all the noise, that is important. What happened last night.

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You may be saying June twenty seventh, Trump destroyed Biden,
and nobody would say he destroyed her. Last night, you
could say he won. You can criticize the moderators There
are a lot of natural and accurate reactions to last night,
but nobody's going to say he destroyed her. What happened?

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What was different? Very simply. On June twenty seventh, CNN
went in with a clear goal and it became obvious
pretty fast. Pushed Joe Biden out of the race when
he was given a minute forty five or two minutes

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for an answer, I don't remember the length. And after
about fifteen seconds have through cobbling together a few words
and he paused rather than moved on. They said, mister resident,
you still have a minute forty five. They pushed the

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old man out into the oncoming traffic. They wanted him
to be exposed as stumbling and bumbling, and that's why
they did that. They immediately after the debate, they're panelists
started saying, this was a horrible effort by Biden, and

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our folks didn't know any better. Oh even yeah, they're
tell us we won, we won. That whole thing was
rehearsed and scripted. Once you understand every bit of this
is kabuki theater, it all starts to make a lot
more sense. Last night, their goal was not to push
Kamala out of the race, but to promote her. Remember

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she met her husband through the director of ABC Network.
They did what they were supposed to do last night,
All right, your calls coming up seven, one, three, nine, nine, one,
thoughts just gets Honkey riders, Hoosker dues, Whosker.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
Don'ts nips and dazers, whether without the scooter stick or
one single whistling Kiddy Jason.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Rather than our usual course of me presenting what I
saw last night and my thoughts, I thought it might
be more interesting today to weave your thoughts through calls
into the show, and then I would respond as my
list of items are hit. Whether I agree or disagree

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with you, it's not a contentious process. There will be
areas where I disagree with a takeaway, but there's no
right or wrong. Who won the debate is a question
people like to ask because if it's a sporting event,
because sporting events are how we measure competition, and for
many people that is the best and perhaps only way

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to understand did our guy chalk up a win or
a loss last night? But you have to ask yourself
what a win is? What is a win? Before you
can determine who one, you have to ask what does
it mean to win? And that's not some deeply existential question.
It's very simple. Both sides go in with the intention

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of scoring a win. A win is that you walk
away with more votes than you walked in with. It's
just that simple. But there are minor wins within the
bigger win. There is motivating your base, there is motivating

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your donors, there is motivating your activists. There is demotivating
the other side, adding an element of question, confused, usion, disorientation,
uncertainty to the other side. All of those sorts of

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things comprise the overall bigger question of a win. You
also have to remember that we all watch the debate
through the prism of our own biases. So the Kamala
people think she won and the Trump people think he won.
The bigger question is going to be what do other

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people think? Other people who don't see the world you do,
other people who don't, who are not as cynical, perhaps
as to the lies that are being told. Let's start
with one premise. Kamala Harris is a performative artist, and

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in that arena she is very good, particularly when she
is focused. You've seen her stumble and bumble. You've seen
the cackling, you've seen, the silly answers, you've seen the
word salads. There's a reason for that. She's very lazy.

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She cuts corners. She does not appear day in and
day out in the busy schedule of being a vice
president and social engagements and media engagements. She does not prepare.
That's why she has throw down lines that she uses.
That's why she starts answering a question the same way

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you did back in school when you had not read
the book and you were asked to give a report
on it, ramon, what is Sounder about? Tell me about Sounder?
And you'd seen the front of the book. Sounder is
a book about a dog. Okay, all right, I've stated
a fact that is uh named Sounder, and whether that

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dog whose name is Sounder, it's about some things that
happened to that dog named Sounder. And you start to realize, oh,
that's what she's doing. She's trying to string together a
couple of facts. Like when you first learn a foreign language,
you may have a couple of nouns, but you can't

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conjugate any verbs, so you just speak in nouns and
then do it louder. That's what she does last night.
You didn't see that, Kamala Harris, and I warned this.
I went on Clay and Buck last week and they
both told me afterwards they were surprised by my answer.
What did I think of the debate? I said, the
expectations for Trump are too high, the expectations for Kamala

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are too low. And largely these things can become an
expectations game. Many people thought that they were going to
walk in there and she was going to wilt or
stand up there in cackle. She didn't. One thing about
Kamala Harris is she is a person who knows her

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own limitations and is quite happy being controlled. That's what
makes her so dangerous as a president. She was rehearsed
and coached, and damn it, you can say whatever you want.
She memorized her lines and she delivered them. Now that's

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all she had. She didn't understand the context behind any
of them. She could not have delivered them on her own.
But she memorized her lines and she delivered them. Did
she have help in her ear? Maybe it doesn't matter,
because the audience at home saw her deliver lines and

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just the way Brian Williams used to lie very confidently,
seemingly with facts and quotes and things to support it.
It adds to its icing on the cake. She was
extraordinarily well rehearsed. There is no doubt about that. You
can give your enemy some credit. She was extraordinarily well rehearsed.

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She didn't stumble, forget none of it. Especially after Biden.
She looked downright in command. It was rehearsed. She didn't
write it. It wasn't off the top, off the cuff.
Trump doesn't rehearse. You can say Trump's god that Michael,

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don't criticize him, Okay, whatever you want. I wish he
had been more prepared for the debate format and what
he was going to be up against, because I felt
he wasn't. And if you want to see the difference,
his closing statement was rehearsed, and you noticed it was

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considerably strung. If people hung around till the end, and
there will always be erosion in your audience through an
event like this. He closed extraordinarily strong, and he had
some moments throughout, but I don't think he had thought
through those moments and how to deliver his best lines.

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It's not who he is he considers it beneath him. Unfortunately,
I wish he had. She was also extraordinarily non responsive.
They asked her, so are Americans better off today than
they were four years ago? She went into an answer,
which again was rehearsed, about growing up in a middle

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class home with parents who struggled. She never answered. Now,
they didn't come back and pin her down the way
they would of Trump, because they were trying to help her.

Speaker 6 (16:56):
As you know.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
That's because the head of AB's is the very person
Dana Walden who introduced Kamala Harris to her beard her husband,
Doug m. Hoff, And so that was that's a thirty
year friendship. As Kamala has gushed on and on over
the years, the husbands are best friends, the wives are

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best friends. So why did Trump would agree to the debate?
My concern when people say, well, you do realize, Michael,
that ABC was behind Kamala. They're running her campaign. Dana
Walden is her best friend. Yeah, I realized that before
the debate. So why do you sit for a debate

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when you know that to be the case. She refused
to do the Fox debate last night last week, and
Trump did a town hall. Maybe, just maybe it's a
weakness to walk into a dent of vipers that you
know is a dent of vipers, but don't come running
out and tell me it's a dent of vipers. We

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knew that before. There was nothing about what they did,
and now we've got every other media personality saying ABC
is a loser. What ABC did is horrible. What ABC
did helped Kamala Harris. Will it swing the election? Absolutely not.
Did it help Kamala Harris? Yes, By the way, it
was Obama's team that was that was training her. You

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could see shades of Obama and what she did last week.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
But you could see it all right, your calls coming up, Grant,
you're only Michael Berry Show.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
What did you see last night?

Speaker 6 (18:35):
Hi?

Speaker 5 (18:35):
Michael?

Speaker 4 (18:35):
Last night.

Speaker 7 (18:36):
I was a little bit taken aback by David Muir's
ability to present as fact a single interview with a
city manager when refuting Trump discussing the I guess that it.

Speaker 6 (18:50):
Well, let's go to your call.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
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Speaker 6 (21:09):
Ramon.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Uh, Let's start with Caleb. Caleb, you're on the Michael
Berry Show. What are your thoughts on last night?

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Oh boy? Too many to even try to say, but
create me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
That's not a good start to the call. Let's try
to narrow it down to one.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Okay, Well, I create me if I'm wrong, mister Michael.
I'm not, like, you know, super educated and whatnot. I
try to understand some things that ask my dad questions.
But and I say again, create me if I'm wrong.
But I believe when one point that she made, she
said that that that mister Trump, my president, was fired
by eighty one million people. I guess I'm assuming that's

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that was that means people that voted at the booth.
Well if that, if so, if that's what that means,
I'm definitely not one of those people to fire him.
He's my president this forty seven God God will and hopefully.
But the other thing about it is too sir. This
thing really really gets to me and and it disturbs me,
and it bothers me. Okay, my my parents decided to

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have me at birth.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
I have.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
I have a bit of a well I think a
lot of heavy learning disability. I have. I don't have
a physical disability, but I've learned disability. But my parents
and my mother wasn't abused in a sexual way that
would have could have caused her thought her mind process

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to abort me, but she didn't. I'm just giving the
right to life. My opinion on it, this is it
doesn't matter. Even this is dark. I know this is dark,
and you probably can edit it out. I understand. I
just wanted to tell you this, But I believe even
if a male and a family was to abuse one

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won't say our word, I think you know what I mean,
but to abuse a female and his family. I still believe,
no matter what, every child, every baby, has the right
to life. Abortion should be against the law. They should
be banned no matter what the situation is. God has

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given they have a God given right to life. Thank you, sir, God.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Bless thank you, keviy, thank you.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
The choice of when those questions were asked last night
was very, very calculated.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
The second question out of the gate was abortion. Not
only is abortion, is abortion a winner for Kamala in
the Swing states, not in the Southern States, but in
the swings. Not only is it a winner for her,
it is her best issue, It is the issue on
which she pulls the best. But it was also asked

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in a manner and answered in a manner which was
clearly very coordinated. That was designed to do maximum advantage
to her and damage to Trump. And that was not
an accident. See, some people, a lot of people were

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going to tune in, get a sense of who was winning,
and go to bed. They weren't going to wait around.
They weren't going to wait around to hear anything else.
And that's why it was so important that that question
was asked so early in the debate, and that is
not an accident, that was by very clear design. Let's

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go to John. John, you're on the Michael Berry Show.
Go ahead, sir, Yes, sir, you know.

Speaker 6 (25:03):
I wish the Republicans when speaking about abortion. I look
at it this way. It's common sense. You know, you
don't kill off future generations. You know, every profession that

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you can name of, there's a shortage. There's a even
a shortage of the blood supply, which has always been
short to begin with, but it's doubly short now. I mean,
that's the way it should They should talk about it.
We don't kill off our future generations. You know, you

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leave all the religion out of it, leave everything else
out of it. And I think that may be winnable.

Speaker 5 (26:07):
Seven one thousand, your calls coming up, Michael Barry Show.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
To the phone lines. We go, Carol, what are your thoughts, sweetheart?

Speaker 6 (26:31):
I feel that as easily as she was led through
the debate is the same way that she'll be led
through the presidency.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
You're exactly right.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Now.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
The concern becomes, Carol, whether a voter who showed up
unsure how they were going to vote, would have the
discernment to see that, because what at first look very impressive,
her ability to spout off random quotes and facts that

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have been handed to her and she's memorized. A true
leader would say that's not a leader. In fact, the
very things that turn people off to Trump are the
very signs of leadership. He is fiercely independent. He is
capable of making a decision without needing to be told

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what to do, and he is confident in his decisions.
And these are skills that most people never learn. They
simply never learn. If you watch at a children's birthday party,
how often it is that a kid can't make a decision.
They can't pick, They can't you know, which of these

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two do you want? Behind? Which door do you want
to They can't do that, but Trump can, and that
is a sign of leadership. If you want to criticize
the decision he makes, that's acceptable. Very very infrequently does
anyone do that. They criticize the fact that he has
confidence in his decision making ability. But you know, Carol,

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if we're to be brutally honest, and this is impolite
and doesn't win elections to say but just us talking.
Most people couldn't coach an NFL team, but they'll sit
up in the stands and scream and hollerists to what
place should have been called. They couldn't draft the players,

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but they'll scream in holoerists to who should have been drafted.
They don't understand what goes into being a great coach
or a great GM or a great owner and take
that to another level. Most people could not be the
president of the United States. It would take too much.

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And yet they don't understand their own limitations based on
their experience and skill set, and they look for things
so that they can cast it. They want nobody wants
to feel like they cast a decision on shallow, vapid grounds.
They want to feel that they I'll decide who the

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president is, and what I'll decide on is I'll watch
the debate. And they watch the debate and they say,
Kamalo looks, she looks sharp, looks smart. She's given me
the right verbal cues, facial cues. I like her body language.
I like the words she strings together. Many people, sadly,

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are at the level that that will be how they
will cast a vote. I don't think Trump lost the
election yesterday. I don't, but I do think that very
smart people that are in the business of dolling up
a canad putting them in the right costume and rolling
them out there with the right words to say, and

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twisting what you have to say and think. I think
those people did their job last night. I think they
did it masterfully. What you watched was those people doing
it masterfully right before your very eyes. Michelle, You're on
the Michael Berry Show. What say you, sweetheart?

Speaker 4 (30:25):
Good morning, Michael. The ko punch I feel like he
missed last night was when the moderators asked him a
question and they tried to paint him as a misogynistic racist.
And the question that they asked him is why do
you keep bringing up her race? And his answer was underwhelming.
He said, you know, it doesn't matter, which anybody was

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common sense, We know that. But his answer should have
been that qualifications are what matter, not race, and painted
her as a liar because what she's doing and the
reason he's bringing.

Speaker 8 (30:57):
It up is she's changing her race.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
She's trying to blend in with whatever crowd she's talking to.

Speaker 8 (31:03):
So he should have made sure the American people know
that if she's lying on such a simple.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
Subject, she's lying about everything. And I'm exhausted with the
race card.

Speaker 8 (31:15):
We need a president who's qualified for the job, not
because she's a woman, not because of any race that
she is.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
But she needed to be established as a liar as
many times as possible, and I feel like he missed it.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Okay on that one. All right, let me offer a
defense when you say he missed it and he should
have established her as a liar. What should he have
said she's lying.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
About Well, you know, she has just publicly said that
she is different in.

Speaker 8 (31:46):
Ethnicities, and I'm just saying she needs to say the
truth about her ethnicity.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Michelle, Michelle,
you wanted him to do something. I want you to
tell me exactly what you wanted him to do, and
I want explain why he couldn't do that. You wanted
him to say she's a liar about her race? Is
that what you want him to say?

Speaker 8 (32:09):
No, I wish she would have said the reason I'm
bringing it up, as the question was asked, the reason
I'm bringing it up is because I want her to
establish that what is she and not keep trying to
blend in with crowd.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Let me tell you why. Let me tell you why
he couldn't do that. It is Trump is not a
coachable candidate. We all know that. But it's not true
that he doesn't look at poles and he doesn't take
any guidance. The polling shows that attacking her on race
is a loser. Now you may say you love it,

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but it's a loser, and they found that that's a loser.
That's why he's moved away from it. If you want
to win an election, you don't take things that Michelle
really cares about but that others don't like and pounding them.
He dropped the issue. He made the issue go away.

(33:05):
And the reason is, unlike twenty twenty, he understands I've
got to be more strategic, calling it doubly. What you
wanted him to do was double down on what he
has said in the past, which he has moved away from.
That's why they brought him back into it, because she
was already scripted with an answer that went like this,

(33:25):
I shouldn't have to be ashamed of who I am,
and Americans shouldn't have to be ashamed of who we are.
And Donald Trump thinks if we're not white, we should
be ashamed. Well, we all can't check a box that
we're one race boom checkmate over. What Trump did was
very hard for him to do, which was bite his
tongue seed that issue and move on down the road.

(33:48):
Applaud him for that. That was very good. Bravo Donald Trump.