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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time, time, time, luck and load.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
The Michael Dairy Show.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Is on the air.

Speaker 4 (00:21):
Good morning, Captain, good morning, Captain, good morning, Captain, good morning, Captain,
good morning, good morning, Captain.

Speaker 5 (00:35):
The morn out and they wake up the sunshine and
the share this raking good morn intertain. It's mornings we
sin because we're herby see and.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
To go contowns free.

Speaker 5 (00:50):
Everybody's saying good morning, good morning, the sunshine.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yesterday I said that Chad, in nineteen years of us
working together, had never called in sick, which is true.
I walked in this morning, I walked past his I
normally say hey Chad when I opened the door, and

(01:38):
then I walked past his studio chat for a minute.
Walk in start the show, I said hey, chat and
I heard nothing went past his studio.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Light was dark. That's never happened in nineteen years.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
I said, Ramon, where's Chad, And he said, remember he
had a doctor's appointment.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
He'll be here shortly. He had told us that. But
I forget everything.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
It's just funny that after I said that yesterday, I
thought if I cursed him and he has his first
sick day after that, I don't know what That would
be the worst thing ever.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
But it didn't happen. He just had doctor's appointments on
his way in.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Buddy of mine claims that he scaled Mount Everest, but
nobody believes him. I think he made it up. They're
saying Puffy p Diddy. Puffy's new nickname is Cuff Daddy.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
I like it.

Speaker 6 (02:46):
Yesterday there was.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
An HPD officer.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Named Scott Durfy who was shot and I got the
news shortly after he was shot.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
We didn't know what condition he was in.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Shortly after after, I heard that he was going to survive,
which he is is good news. Shot in the leg
was during a home invasion. A friend of mine sent
me a message that this had happened. This was on
his street, very just a couple of houses over from him.
He's moving to Aledo. If any of you know Bryant Recley,

(03:21):
and he said, this is it. I hear gunshots every
night and now look at this. There's a shootout the house.
So we find out there's a home invasion and the
bad guys and this is something I lecture. You can
imagine how much fun this is for them. I lecture

(03:43):
my family, do not open the door for anyone. We
have gates and gates inside of gates. But if you
order food or anything.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Else, have it left at the door.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Do not go interact, because that's a great ruse for
a bad guy to pretend to be a door dasher.
Twenty six year old woman. She's at the home of
her parents. She has a one year old and a
three year old. They come to the door knocking as
if as if it's a door dasher.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
At the wrong address. She opens the door, he barges in.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
His buddy comes running in. They have guns. Well, you'll
hear the story.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
In just a moment.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Because the homeowner, her father, the woman's father.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
It was actually at his house.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
I don't know if the daughter lives there with her
two children or if she was just visiting with the
you know, bringing the grandkids over. I don't know, but
he emailed at about noon. We interviewed him, We discussed
the situation with him at about twelve thirty yesterday afternoon.

(04:56):
We aired that last night, but most people don't get
to hear the morning and the evening, so we will
play that for you coming up in the next segment
in just a couple of minutes. It is a good
reminder that you shouldn't open the door for random people.
Makes no sense to what do you gain from it?

(05:18):
Tell them to go away. That's my approach. KPRCTV with
the story on the update of Officer Durfree.

Speaker 7 (05:27):
He left the hospital here around three o'clock this afternoon.
We know that he's been with HPD for roughly nine
years in the patrol division. This is exactly what he
and his partner were doing at the time when they
arrived at that home this morning, and the police chief
telling us. As soon as they got to the front
door and they started entering the home to assess things,
they were met with gunfire.

Speaker 8 (05:48):
We went into a walkway or an area, I'm not
a walkway doorway, and the suspect came out of what
we think is a living bedroom and shot immediately at
the officer. The officer return fire did not strike the suspect,
but that was a suspect that ran out the back.
The second officer proceeded to clear the home and he
caught the other suspect, secured him, and then came back

(06:10):
and administered life saving first daid to our police officer.

Speaker 7 (06:15):
An officers got to the home in a matter of minutes,
according to police Chief Noe Daz, thanks in part to
a neighbor who thought something was wrong and called it in.

Speaker 8 (06:26):
I have to thank the neighbor right because the homeowner
didn't downline when one. It was a neighbor across the
street that actually saw the two gentlemen or two suspects
come and knock on the door and then saw them
go in, and that neighbor thought it was odd. So
that neighbor saved a day.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Wow, and we're going to find out. These turds have
a criminal record. You watch and see these turds are.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Going to have a criminal record. They're Hispanic males. I've
seen the ring camera video. The owner shared during camera
video their Hispanic mails. I don't know that that will
be shared. I don't know. The two of them that
came in the house were apprehended. The little turd who

(07:16):
was driving these stolen white Toileta Camri fled and was
eventually captured yesterday around six pm. I have not been
able to confirm this, but the story goes he was
hiding in a Taco Bell freezer, to which.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
My buddy said they should have left him there.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
They should have just locked it up and let him
sit in there and freeze.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
I'd rather they open the door and shoot and kill him.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
I really honestly wish every person who engages in a
home burglary carjack, I.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Wish every one of them would be murdered by their victim.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
I wish that would happen because it wouldn't scare off
the other because they're too stupid.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
These are not high functioning, you know, people.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
With a powerful processor up above their shoulders.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
But they'd be done.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
That, they would be unable to do this again. A
Democrat judge, one of Rodney's judges named Tavia Bell or
Tva or Tavia Bell. I don't know how you say it.
I didn't grow up with any Tavias. Has freed a
man who on a PR bond, which is a personal
reconnaissance bond that means literally you just say yeah, I'll

(08:32):
come back.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Freed demand.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
He was charged with murder and assault of a police officer,
and she said, well, just come back when your trial comes.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Up, and he didn't. So now he's a fugitive.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
So now we have to waste resources and probably get
another officer hurt to go out.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
And get him.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
I'll tell you that story, but the interview with the
homeowner from that incident yesterday coming up.

Speaker 9 (08:53):
Bring it on.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
What would you do with a brain if you had one?

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Bring it on, because there is nothing here.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
The Michael Barry Show. JD.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Southern has died at the age of seventy nine on
the street.

Speaker 10 (09:09):
She technically seventy eight. He would have been seventy nine
in November. November second considered an unofficial Eagle. He wrote
several songs for Linda Ronstadt and the group that started
as her backing singers, the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
He wrote new kid.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
In Town, how Long, best of My Love, Victim of Love,
Heartache Tonight.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, he wrote some songs, all right for sure, her
Town two, You're only lonely raised in Amarillo, Texas. All right?

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Here is that conversation we had with the homeowner whose.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
House was the site of the shooting yesterday. Ben Bates.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yes, well, I received your email. It's been a traumatic
day obviously, with your permission, I'll read this email and
we can begin our conversation. Sure you say, I am
the homeowner and so headline officer involved shooting in Spring Branch.
This is on the same street as a friend of mine.

(10:16):
And first of all, so I know one of your neighbors.
And secondly, I was advised by an HPD officer who
was on the scene when Officer Scott Durphy was shot that.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
He had been shot and.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
That they were on their way and I was getting updates.
So when I got your email, I am the homeowner
and two armed gunmen forced their way into our home.
My twenty six year old daughter was there with her
one and three year old. She's traumatized. Officer entered and
was shot in the leg. The bad guys returned fire.

(10:56):
Two men apprehended, but still looking for the driver of
the stolen camry. We haven't been let back into our
home yet. I heard on the debate the other night
that violent crime is down. Facts on the ground do
not indicate that, Ben. By the way, facts on the
ground and actual data do not prove that you are

(11:17):
absolutely right. But what you're experiencing, we're seeing all over
the country. And I'll bet these guys are going to
turn out to be out on a warrant with a
long criminal record, and one of Rodney Ellis's criminal judges
will have released them again to go out and do this.
But walk me through if you would, Ben, I guess
first of all. First things, first, nobody in your family

(11:40):
is harmed.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
No, they're not. Well that's a blessing.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
And my understanding is Officer Durfy, who took the shot,
is wounded, but he's going to survive, so that's good news.
So tell me what was happening at the house and
were you there at the house when this happened.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
I was not.

Speaker 9 (12:02):
I was in work and it was on because I've
been texting my daughter about something else. And the next
thing I know, my neighbor called me. He's like, are
you at the house. I'm like no, and he says
you should get there. There's a a bunch of cop
cars and gunshots. I heard gunshots, and so I kind

(12:22):
of dropped everything and headed over there. So I since
had an opportunity to talk to my daughter and look,
I've got a ring I've got ring cameras on the
front of my house. So I actually saw the guy
who was He had kind of pulled up, he walked up,
walked back to the car, walked up, walked back to

(12:43):
the car. Third time. He came up with a red
door dash bag and said he was there for food. Delivery,
and my daughter shouldn't have, but she opened the door
to telling me he's that the wrong address, and he
forced his way inside with a gun held on her,
and then a second bad guy ran in and they

(13:05):
closed the door. They zipsied my daughter and they started
ransacking the house, and they kept asking her like, where's
the safe, where's you know, where's the jewelry, you know,
and you know we're not we don't have a safe,
we don't have expensive items. So but it just she

(13:26):
was just really terrorized by the old situation. But my
neighbor saw them casing the place and he called the police,
and the police arrived within five minutes. They entered the
house with the bad guy still inside. One was in
the back room and one was right there, and they

(13:46):
fired on that officer and then they returned fire. And
I really don't know, I think they had they have
apprehended both of these guys. They're sitting in the back
of a cruiser by now. My daughter did her best identify.
They were wearing COVID masks, which is convenient, I guess.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah, very So at what time did this happen?

Speaker 9 (14:12):
This was at nine thirty six, nine thirty six is
when they came. And the officers came like five or
six minutes from the time they went into the house.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
And there were two who entered the house and one
who was outside in the stolen white to ad a camera.

Speaker 9 (14:33):
Correct, And they're still looking for that camera. But I
think I think they've got a bead on it, but
it has stolen plates or something like that.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Well, of course it does, because they're in the middle
of a crime spree. They're just committing crimes all day long.
What do these guys look like?

Speaker 2 (14:48):
How old? What's their skin color?

Speaker 9 (14:52):
I mean, they're really covered up, but they sound they
seemed to be Hispanic males. But that's what I heard
the police say.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
So did they speak to your daughter when they came
into the house.

Speaker 9 (15:07):
They did, Yeah, I actually have the audio of them
speaking to her.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Did she detect an accent or did she get anything
from that?

Speaker 11 (15:18):
She did?

Speaker 9 (15:19):
I haven't had a chance to really out there. She's
handling her her little ones right now.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
So when they zip tied her up, was it just
her and the two babies? Yes, So the babies were
left there? What were they just walking around?

Speaker 9 (15:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah? Oh my goodness.

Speaker 9 (15:40):
How even they had her? They took her into some
of the rooms and they were like, where's a safe,
you know, and she's like, we don't have a safe,
you know, And they were kind of you know, they
were demanding that she wasn't being very cooperative and threatening
to kill her.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
So then, so was she zip tied during that or
they zip tide her after that?

Speaker 9 (16:05):
No, she was zip tied during that.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
So when the officers arrive, is the door still closed
she's in? How does she stay out of the middle
of being taken as a hostage.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Or whatever else?

Speaker 9 (16:21):
I don't know. I think she was back in our
family room, and when the officers came in, I think
she ducked down behind the couches and and so I
think she was able to avoid the cross fire.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
And the bad guys start shooting at the cops. Officer
Durfy fires back. Obviously they hit him. Were the bad
guys ever hit.

Speaker 9 (16:44):
I do not know?

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Wow, So you're not back in your house yet?

Speaker 9 (16:55):
No? No, there's still crime scene units been on it
for a couple hours now. So we did just get
some They did just bring us diaper bag so we
can change the diapers on the little one. So that's
that's progress.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
And is your wife there?

Speaker 9 (17:16):
My wife is here, both my daughter who was in
the house. My other daughter came from work, so our
whole family's here except my son's still at school.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Wow.

Speaker 9 (17:31):
We're across the street at a neighbor's house. You know,
he's very, very hospitable to let us hang out there.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
I know that neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Well, I've gone over to visit my friend Bryant Reckling
and his bride, and they have little babies, as were
a lot of little kids in that neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
You know, this is horrible, It's awful.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
I'm going to find a silver lining and everything I
try to I try to do that. The good news
is that no one in your home was physically harmed.
The police officer was, and hopefully he's going to heal up.
I'm happy for your family in that way and grateful
that that in and of itself is a blessing.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Ben.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
I appreciate you sharing your story.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
I hope this wakes people up to exactly what's going on.
Thank you, Sir.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Michael Berry.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
If you haven't heard the story yet about what the
Israeli Massad did to Hesbola with the beepers, you're going
to love this.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
You're probably still gonna love it if if you heard
it before.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
But before I start this, just to give people time
to call in, I need an explosives expert out there,
if that is you call the show seven one three
nine nine nine one thousand. But you need to be
able to say the words that make up the acronym
p e t N.

Speaker 6 (19:09):
P e t n.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
I'm just curious how you pronounced that. I think I know,
but that's my that's your cue. If you know what
p E t in p e t N is, and
you have dealt with explosives and you understand how you
pack an explosive into a beeper that could do this
much damaged, and I'd like to hear from you seven
one three nine nine nine one thousand. Seven one three

(19:33):
nine nine nine one thousand. So if this were a movie,
it will probably be unbelievable. It's some James Bond level stuff.
The Masad intercepted beepers that were sent to Hesbola, pagers, beepers.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Whatever you want to call them, months ago.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
They rigged them with explosives and at the.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Exact same time.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
They set them off, blowing off the hands of the
HESBELA members. Meanwhile, our intelligence agencies are just concerned with
putting women and transgenders in charge, not ever actually accomplishing anything.

(20:30):
I saw early this morning, Blinking was being interviewed at
a press conference, and he was denying that US officials
had been advised of the Beeper plan. You don't have
to deny it. We know they didn't tell you. They
couldn't tell you because you're like a child. You would

(20:53):
have blurted it out, or you probably would have run
and told Hesbela, we don't want y'all to get hurt.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
This is what is a gonna do. They probably would have.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Imagine that US officials are having to deny that they
were in any way involved with striking at the heart
of a terrorist organization, Hesbola because it would upset their
base in this country. Imagine that that's how far they've fallen. Ramon,

(21:27):
I don't know what to think. But I don't see
the phone ringing. It's a phone on huh. I know
we're on delay.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
We should have had an explosives expert.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Now, if we don't have a single explosives expert out there,
or a five year old with matches, you're right, there
has to be one explosive, I mean, one person out
there that you get them going and you just kind
of sit back and go, this is the rain man
of pain man.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
This is it right here, this guy, this is the one.
What do you do? Well, just walked out. I didn't
know if you wanted to sign that.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Oh this is this is his tarty Notice. Ramone just
brought me a tarty dos that says to Chad Naganishi
from HR, it has been brought to our attention that
you relate today this, as you know, is unbecoming of
a successful employee. Our records indicate that this is one
late day in your five thousand, four hundred and seventy

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five days of employment. Please let this serve notice that
you have one thousand, five hundred seventy five hours of
PTO time available.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Sincerely, HR. Yeah, sign that. That's brilliant.

Speaker 6 (22:33):
I like how you did the Our records indicate that
this is and there's like a box there and you
put one in a late day, open parent s closed
day in your five thousand, four hundred.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
And seventy five days of employment. That's very clever.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Still still no explosives, experts, that's very disappointing, very disappointing
seven one three nine nine nine one thousand, seven one
three nine nine one thousand.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
I will hold out hope.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Here's the story from the BBC on the on the
Bieber slash Pager program.

Speaker 12 (23:05):
It was an audacious, unprecedented attack all across Lebanon, thousands
of pages exploding at the same time. Many were on
the street, some like here, in people's homes, some in supermarkets.

(23:27):
Emergency services struggled to cope with the scale of the attack,
thousands of Hesbela members suffering injuries in the same instant.
Israel hasn't commented, but few have any doubts about its role.
So how was Israel able to target Hesbela in this way?
Hesbela started using pages and old technology after it realized

(23:48):
its mobile phones were being monitored. The theory is Israel
knew Hesbela had ordered thousands of new pages and intercepted
the shipment.

Speaker 11 (23:58):
Assuming that this was more than just making Lithian batteries
override and overheat. But they had planted small amounts of
explosives in each one of these pages. Then this was
unquestionably a calculated attack.

Speaker 12 (24:14):
On the border between Israel and Lebanon. There have been
constant exchanges of fire since the war in Gaza began.
Yesterday's attack will pile more pressure into a region that
is already volatile and precarious.

Speaker 13 (24:27):
One of the scenarios that this is just a beginning
to disrupt Hasblas communication network, a beginning of a much
larger military operation in Lebanon, where when Hasbola cannot communicate
with each other, these really is will have a better
chance at winning or expanding the operations in Lebanon.

Speaker 12 (24:48):
Funerals are already taking place in Lebanon, and with them warnings.

Speaker 11 (24:53):
We hold it is the really any responsible for all
of the victims, for all of the martins, for.

Speaker 7 (24:57):
All of them wanted.

Speaker 8 (24:58):
I do you believe that the deprize on is coming?

Speaker 2 (25:02):
You hate to hear it, don't you?

Speaker 14 (25:08):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (25:08):
That would have been enjoyable to watch. Just imagine, imagine
the discipline you have to have in your organization to
be able to carry out But we can't in this
diversity is our strength. Bull We couldn't pull that off.
The United States Intelligence services could not pull that off.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
No chance, absolutely zero chance they could pull it off.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
You have to admire that, Oh, oh, we may have
a we may have an expert on explosives coming up.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Does he know what PETN stands for?

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Check that this is the Michael Berry Show.

Speaker 14 (25:49):
Locked and loaded, didn't load? It will oppose you Rise

(26:16):
and drink me going on a truth through history. I
want to see society day.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
We'll go back when time's young and you learn.

Speaker 9 (26:27):
The tuggar up gun.

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Hebe sixteen on the way when the.

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Mountains closed about the side and Rivers Hill.

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The mines cried. It was a year of forty nine.

Speaker 5 (26:43):
In those days.

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I'm not gone and didn't wish I could see the lan.

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Buying from the cowboys.

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I'm want to go time traveling through.

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Texas, Wendy.

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I want to go time traveling through Texas, Lendy.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
How won't we then read the ever and see all
I can see Texas times up.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
The state of Texas is the greatest in the Union.
We're lucky to call it home. For nine years it
was its own nation, and.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Throughout history it's held a special place in the hearts.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Of all Americans.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
We're going to celebrate texas great history today.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Now here's your host, Michael Arry.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Listen very carefully, please, because there will be thousands of
emails that come in, and we have to be organized
in order to make this happen. We are going to
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You get in.

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Speaker 2 (28:03):
It's a rally.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
I don't want to hear suggestions on who it should be,
who you would rather it be, or anything else.

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It is a rally.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Assume there is no band, and if there is a band,
be happy. Well how about that? It will be free
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Don't email back if you haven't heard back. You will
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Would like it to be.

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October twelfth, It'll be from about five to ten in
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October twelfth. And thank you very much to Larry Ness
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(29:30):
make that happen so that we didn't have to charge
a ticket price. So I appreciate Larry for that. To
the phone lines, we go, Sean, are you our explosives expert?

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Not quite, mister Berry, but I do have some experience.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Our friend Jeff Davies, owner of Gareth Construction says. My
wife says, I'm an explosives expert, especially after a blue
cheese salad or spicy ty food. Let me know if
I can help, all right, So what explosives experience.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Do you have.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
About twelve years ago, I worked for a company and
we were doing fiber optic monitoring of frack operations in Pennsylvania.
We would have a fiber optic line down the outside
of the casing where it ran down to its terminus
at about nine thousand feet, and we would monitor all

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the way back up the casing. We could tell when
the electronic charges or the explosive charges that were designed
to frack or punch through that pipe casing so you
can push fluid and then recover dads. We could tell
if they had a misfire on our equipment, So we

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would have to tell the people that were running the
crane and that we're running what they call the guns. Hey,
you got one of those caps did not go off.
It's going to be live when you pull it out
of the pipe. They reuse these tools, these these guns.
When they're done, they take the gun apart. The shape

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charge is only about as big a round as a
half dollar if I remember correctly. They're fairly small, and
they'll cut through almost three quarters of an inch of steel.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
When I first heard this, one of your buddies, actually,
Alan Neederlitz sent me an email about the story, and
that was kind of the first thing that came to
mind was wild they're playing with shape charges that they've
cut down and decide to make them fit into that
kind of a package.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
I'm speechless.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
I mean, I'm just processing how you can get that
level of a charge, that level of an explosive in
that all of a space.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
I mean, I can understand these even.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
They called them, they call them guns, but all it
is is just a big cut piece of pipe that
is hooked up to a winch, cable whatever, and they
push it down with pressure into the pipe casing where
whatever depth they want. And we're monitoring this with fiber

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optics and we can tell them, you know, tell about
what depths they're at. When they set off. All the
charges will get eight spikes because they do them in pairs,
so we can make sure that they've all got them gone.
And this has happened a couple of times they would
only have seven of them go off, so we have

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to tell the crew, hey, you're bringing up a live charge,
be careful.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
How did they react to that.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
They're very thankful that we're paying attention that they know that.
One of the weird things was we were kind of
We were an independent company on some of these gaz
pads in Pennsylvania, so there was a little bit of
animosity between crews, but most of the time they were

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you know, they were pretty well forward about how they
were doing it and what they were doing, and just
safety reasons. We'd have to give them an update. Hey,
you know you're pulling one out that's still active.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Did you like watching it explode?

Speaker 3 (33:37):
You don't see it. It's I mean, this takes place
eight thousand feet.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Down, but even in the even your camera, you couldn't see.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
No, no, no, no, it would probably take the camera apart.
It's it's these they're shape charges. They're not quite debt cord.
I think some of the charges we were using, I
think they might have been p E t N.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Do you know these things?

Speaker 3 (34:11):
They don't they're not.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
I want to say poly ethel t uh.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
It's too to rule.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
I'm going to rule that he knew nothing about the
subject that we were talking about. But his story was fascinating,
so that makes up for it. Don't you think I
enjoyed that