September 19, 2024 • 32 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Time, time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
The Michael Arry Show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Dansh de Sis that came to national attention in this
country when he made a movie about the evil.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
That was going on in this country and he told
a story in a narrative style that.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Folks went to the movie theater in a way that
you might pick up a book to learn. It was
advocacy in the form of storytelling through vivid pictures and
a narrative style that I don't think we had seen before.
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I was proud to be associated with that.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
It broke. It broke the record. At the time.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
The opening weekend, it was the top rated movie in
the country. Lionscape picked it up. It is not an
exaggeration to say that it made the distributors of movies,
the people that determine whether a movie, once made, is
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going to be seen by you or not, or whether.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
You're going to be exposed to it and choose the Igorna.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
That movie changed everything and everything that came after it
is derivative of it, and not just the series of
films that Denish de Suza has made, but a number
of other films that you know of. None of that
would have happened. The distributors wouldn't have touched it. The
big houses wouldn't have touched him. They realized there was.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
A massive market here.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
It also inspired a lot of people to use film
as their storytelling medium, and it's been very powerful. And
DeNisi de Susa did all that. That's not to say
that Denish de Susa woke up the day before that
and arrived on the scene. He was a long standing
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He used to debate Christopher Hitchins. He used to be
a university president.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
He had written a number of books.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
But he had been a person much like say Mark
Levin before Mark Levin began doing The Mark Levin Show,
who was making a difference, but to a very narrow audience.
And then he went mainstream. And I think to our advantage.
He to our benefit. He has a new movie out
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and the timing couldn't have been more perfect.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
That's not accidentally.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
He's very strategic thinker, and it's called vindicating Trump.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Here's a trader for that. Somebody has to help this country,
and if they don't, the country and the world are
in big trouble.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Someone's got to overturn the tables in the temple Trump
jumping into the presidential race.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
She's a bit worried of the apprentice guy, you know,
to fill in the power?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Could you handle it? Of wood at the vowel power?
They fear that power.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
You didn't do an insurrection.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Had you called for one, there.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Would have been one, and there would be one if
you called for one.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Now I'm not sure I want that power.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I want the power just to make the country better
way America first, and that scares them a lot about
Donald Trump scares them.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Let's look at everything campaign is family.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Let's get foreign eyes on him. If we have one target,
you know who he is.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Going after, their companies, their families. That is a dictator at.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
A very dangerous time for a country.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
The goal is to put him in jail because they're
so afraid of his voice.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I am your very I'm so deep and legal. He'll bankrupt.
Bro got him in jail right before the election. That's
hard for being that guy. But isn't that election interference?
It's not interference if we do it.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
We just want a free and fair election.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Sounds expensive ballots, saint cheap? Wait wait, wait, did you
actually say the word buy the ballots?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
We were able to purchase ten thousand ballots. That's terrifying.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
They cheated in many different ways. That's all they're good at.
Save democracy. We need to stop him permanently. Then that
person will be risking his life. That is not the sixties, right,
it's the way you survived. Must get me.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Trump has beaten back every attack against him. It's like
a tourney.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
We're going to fix our borders and we're going to
fix our elections.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
We're going to win my.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Legacy syndicating Trump the best is yet to come to.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Nih DeSUS is our guest. Welcome.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Thank you. I'm very excited about this movie, and like
you say, it's it's coming at a time when people
are making up their minds.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
First of all, what was the moment where you said
I have to make this movie. What was that moment
where you said, you know, this is something i'm watching
that I don't like, that needs to be fixed or
that needs to be told.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Well, I think it started with a bunch of comments
that I would hear from people on the Republican side.
And I don't just mean the never trump ers. I
mean the people who say things like this. You know,
I don't really like Trump but you know, I like
his policies, or I just wish he would shut his mouth,
or in other words, there's a campaign sort of to
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remake Trump, to rehabilitate him, to fix him. And I
got the idea that, you know what, we don't actually
need to remake Trump. We need to remake our understanding
of Trump. Why because for this moment in the country,
for this time, he's the right guy, and his peculiar
qualities are adapted and suited to what we need now.
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I'm not saying that he'd be the best candidate for
every time in American history, but I think for now
he is not only the best guy, he's in a
way kind of the only guy.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Radio is not very good for the audience when the
host stops to process something, and I find myself often
doing that.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Say that again, Well, let me say it a slightly
different way. Imagine if somebody were to go to Abraham
Lincoln and say, we don't like this General Grant. He's lazy,
he bankrupted his family's store, he curses even at his wife.
He's a philanderer, he's a drunk, you know, pull him
off the battlefield. Lincoln would say, are you insane? We're
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in a civil war. This is the best guy who
knows how to fight. We're a team that actually hasn't
been fighting all that well until now. So this is
kind of my point about Trump. The supreme virtue that's
required in politics right now on our side is courage.
This guy has it like nobody else. And I don't
just mean his reaction to the assassination attempts. Look at
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the way he handles ninety one criminal charges. Any other
Republicans facing three criminal charges would have long exited the race,
fled from the field, and we would never hear from
that person again. So Trump not only endures, he prevails.
I mean he deflects, he dodges, He's rope adope somehow,
they they think they've got him, but they never really
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got him. And so what I'm getting at is that
we need somebody of that caliber. Now. He's in a
sense a kind of a wartime general, so to speak,
and he's very well suited to it. He even kind
of enjoys it.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And isn't that, in many ways a part of the
overall appeal for a people who have felt beaten down, forgotten, canceled, harassed.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
The entirety of it, and here is.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
A guy who stands up to it very publicly, and
it's like he's taking the slings and arrows that we
feel in our private lives.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Denesh Desusa is our guest. We'll talk about his.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Film Vindicating Trump where you can see it, when you
can see it, why he made it, and more coming out.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
An undocumented immigrant is not a criminals to Michael very Show,
we have to correct course in this conversation.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Deniesha Susa is our guest. The movie is vindicating Trump. Denisha,
I want to dig a little deeper here, and I'll
give you some time to answer these, but when you
foresee what's going to happen in the coming weeks, You've
been around this a long time. You've been arguing ideas
as much as the nuts and bolts and x'es and o's.
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Where do you think the American people are? Not the
people who joined me and you at your film debut
of the Trump film at mar Lago a few years ago.
Not the people marching for Hamas or marching for Kamala.
I mean Middle America that's not particularly political.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Where do you think they are right now?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I think Middle America is nervous a little frightened and
quite honestly looking for a real change. And what we
are seeing is a cultivated orchestrated campaign to I would
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call it a campaign of fact creation. And the fact
here is Kamala Harris. So what they're trying to do
is what the Left is actually brilliant at doing. See,
you and I believe in truth. We believe that there's
a reality out there. They believe the truth is something
that you create, that you devise, that you manufacture, and
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so they're trying to manufacture a kind of new and
different and improved Kamala Harris. And of course the election
becomes almost a test to see if the American people
are smart enough and can see through this illusion. Now
I think the American people are pretty smart. And the
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reason I think that is because, well, just take a movie,
the ordinary American sitting in a movie theater, and you've
got some kind of a complex who done it? And
the obvious suspect is not the real guy. But notice
how shrewd people aren't being able to pick up little
details that point to who the real bad guys are.
They're pretty good at doing that. They're not actually dumb.
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They can see through a sham, And so I think
this is really a sort of a test as to
whether or not an orchestrated media campaign can give us
this kind of invented Kamala Harris as opposed to the
real Kamala Harris, because I think if we had a
fair media in this country, Trump would win sixty forty
or even sixty five thirty five.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I think you're absolutely right, Densh. I think you're absolutely
right when you look at reasons people might not vote
for Trump, that it would be in their best interest
to vote for Trump, and how that could be changed.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
What do you see?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Well, remember that, Well this isn't one of the opening
scenes of the movie, and it's the iconic scene of
Trump coming down the escalator. And I've thought about that
scene a little bit because to me, the keyword here
is down. See here's Trump. And he was a cultural celebrity.
He was in with Oprah and Ellen and Larry King
and all the other cool cats, and then he made
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that faithful decision. It wasn't just that he ran for president.
It wasn't just that he was a Republican, but it
was that he was sort of descending away from that
elite class and sort of joining hands with the ordinary American.
Now a lot of ordinary Americans got that. They became
grateful and attached to Trump because of that. That's why
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they won't give up on him. On the other hand,
it also helps to explain how the elites who were
previously his friends then came to despise and hate him
because they saw him as a trader to their class,
to their camp, to their group. Here's a guy who
was one of them, and then he joined with the
pitchfork people against them, and they'll never forgive him for
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doing that.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
That interesting, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
You see the people that haven't forgotten him, the herschel
Walkers and the Mike Tyson's and people that go way back,
and they say, listen, I know Donald Trump. Don't tell
me who he is or isn't I know him. I've
been there with him. But for all these people who
knew him over the years, the al Sharptons, the Jesse Jackson's,
Whoopie Goldbergs, you know, these folks, the Bette Midlers, who
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watched him contribute to causes, do good things. They went
to his parties, and now all of a sudden they
want to tell us he's the devil. They know that's
not true, and it says more about them than it
does him, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
It totally does. And also, look at all the people
who criticize Trump's character, you know, and they they'll say, well,
you know, he's he's a liar, he's a playboy, he's
you know, he's this guy is so he's got a
massive ego. And my point is, all right, number one,
let's look at those ill me Trump used to be
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a playboy. Are you saying he's a playboy? Now? No,
No one says that he's so the best you got
on him? If he's a reformed playboy, not the worst
thing to be in the world. Okay, he's he's got
a massive ego. Well, guess what if you are facing
NonStop vicious attacks on every platform, every minute of every day,
wouldn't you need some kind of an ego as a protection,
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as your own personal wall. Otherwise you're just gonna crumble
as a human being. No normal person can withstand that
kind of fury. So in a weird way, I think
even some of Trump's vices, and they are vices, are
also at the same time political virtues. And finally, let's
look at Trump's virtues. He's magnanimous, he's very kind to
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ordinary people. The guys who work as dorman in his
hotels and catering love the guy. You'll never get one
of them to say a bad word about him. He
looks after his family and they're dedicated and even devoted
to him. And most of all, he has the supreme
virtue of courage. So that's part of what I try
to do in this film is bring out Trump. The
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centerpiece of the film is a one on one with Trump,
and I try to bring out some private aspects of
the man that I've seen over the years, but the
Trump himself conceals from the public. And so bringing that
out in a natural way in a conversation, I think
is the real accomplishment of this conversation with Trump.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I think you're right, Dan Aan, one of our listeners,
very informed, very committed to fixing this country. He says, Michael,
can you ask Denash about two thousand mules and why
our government will not prosecute the fraud, the work of
true the vote, the work of two thousand mules, all
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the things that have been learned in Arizona, in Georgia,
in Pennsylvania about the fraud.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
How can we get this prosecuted.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
So the short answer is this, the fraud that was
documented in the film focused on a lot of Democratic areas,
Fulton County in Georgia, Maricopa County, which is nominally Republican,
but also Detroit Democratic Philadelphia. So the point is that
the Democrats in charge there were obviously not eager to
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start quote looking into it.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
So it was up to.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Republicans, the Republican establishment in Georgia, for example, Governor Kemp,
or the Republicans in Arizona, or Republicans around the country
to scream and demand that somebody interview the mules. Maybe
the mules have a great explanation for why they're there
with backpacks in the middle of the night, putting ballots
one after the other. Maybe there's some explanation, Well what
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is it? But the point is the Republicans kind of
failed us because the Republicans were scared of being called
election deniers. There are a few radioactive topics for mainstream Republicans.
One of them is January sixth, certainly one of them
is the so called stolen election, and so they run.
There's a senator who we're close to and we're like, hey,
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come to our media room. We're we're going to play
two Thousand Mules. And the guy just never replied. And
I was thinking to myself, this is somebody I know,
why would he not reply? And then I figured it out.
He doesn't want to see the movie. And the reason
he doesn't want to see the movie is not because
it's false. He fears it's true. But if it's true
and he sees it, he's going to have to do
something about it, but he doesn't want to do anything
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about it. Therefore he doesn't want to see the movie.
So this psychology is the core reason why two Thousand Mules,
which sort of needed a next step and the next
step and the next step, and those steps were not forthcoming.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Nick Sercy was hanging out at my house. He said
he had come in early. He was going to be
filming the next day, and y'all were filming at a beautiful,
big home in Houston, and he said, you want to
drive over and see the house and see the set,
and I did, and you were coming out as we
were going in.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Is that what y'all were filming?
Speaker 3 (18:00):
You know? I I'm thinking back, it might have been
actually my last film, Police State now.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
No, yeah, that was.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Yeah, yeah. But he's also in you know, he also
plays the sort of director of the intelligence agents.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
He's our guest coming up, Maxlmore, Danesh Desusa.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Thank you for the great work. The movie is Vindicating Trump.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
It'll be out September twenty seventh, Go see it. I
just say more woke, the less woke, call still living.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Nothing like the call still Living.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Jamie Johnston be there. Lyndon Johnson used to tell him
old joke. When I was young and studying politicians and
speeches and campaigns and all those things. At the University
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of Texas, at the LBJ Presidential Library, there was a
cassette tape called The Humor of LBJ, and I bought
that tape and I listened to that tape over and
over and over again. And there were great stories that
LBJ told in speeches after he left the White House,
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and some of them were about Daryl k Royle, who
was a dear friend of his. And when I got
to meet Coach Royal at President Bush's inauguration in January
of two thousand and one, I started quoting one of
the speeches and he said how do you know that?
I said, Oh, I listened to LBJ speeches. He had
a bunch of them, a bunch of anecdotes about you
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really like what? And I was three or four stories
into it when Aikman, Staubach, Tony Dorsett had all surrounded
us and my wife. You've heard me tell the story,
so I forgive me if you've heard it ten times.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
But my wife said, I don't know who that old
man was you were talking to. But there was some
important people standing around. Well. That was coach Dell Okay Royle,
whose wife just passed recently.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
For those of you who've kept up with the royal
family over all those years, he told a story about
an old judge who's coming into the courtroom one day
and out in front of the courthouse there's a there's
a there's a bum, and the bum says, judge, can
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you give me a quarter for a cup of coffee?
And the judge said, shame on you. You're not gonna
spend it on a cup of coffee. You're gonna go
buy some cheap liquor and get drunk. Now, if you'd
said to me, judge, can you give me a quarter,
I'm hungover and I need a little.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Hair of the dog to get through the morning.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I'd probably give you a dollar, and the bum said, Judge,
you've been there, hadn't you. You know, for people who
have seen the depths of despair, whatever that is, you
know that you never forget that feeling. I don't want
to say I have enjoyed because I don't want to
minimize it.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
But I.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Don't have a good word for it. But thank you
for those of you who have shared your stories of
addiction this morning. I knowe with me in writing. I
know that's not an easy thing to do, but for
some of you it's cathartic to tell it and remind
yourself and remind yourself, and we all have to do
this that on your worst day, you're still here and
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you're better than.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
You could have been.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Maybe not as good as you could be, but better
than you could have been. You've made some good decisions,
You've done some good things. Beverly writes Zar, I'm a
recovering drug addict. I used opiates for over twelve years,
which started with prescriptions from a dentist after a root canal,
But there was a period of time that I was
using cocaine after being introduced to it at a narcotic
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synonymous meeting I was forced to go to when I
was on probation. I'm an addict of most anything. If
it changed the way I felt, I'd do it. I
tried cocaine and I was shooting it in less than
a year. I'm a true addict food, sex, drugs. It
doesn't matter anyway. You asked how it makes you feel.
I'm too chicken to call. But it just makes you
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feel amazing, invincible, brave, confident, war them all over. A
true addict won't be a functional coke addict for very long.
I was working as the office manager for a local
attorney when I started, but ended up without a job,
a car, anything. It's a progressive disease. I was a
functional addict on opiates though, as long as they didn't
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run out, but of course they always do anyway. After
getting sent to rehab for nine months versus going to
jail for three years, I got clean on April second,
two thousand and six. That was the day I had
to turn myself in at the jail wait for a
bed at the rehab in Corpus CHRISTI. After that, I
went back to college. I got my degree, and I've
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been cleaned for about sixteen years. I'm a veteran of
the Army National Guard, a physical therapist assistant, and a
mother of two. There but for the grace of God,
go aye.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I love that story.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I'm a lot less judgmental than I was when I
was a younger man. When I was a younger man,
I would look at that person for all the sins
of their past, And at fifty three, I say, there
is a brave, strong, accomplished person. Good for you.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
You have climbed a mountain.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
When it comes to be a colony, do you believe
America are better off than they were four years ago?
Michael Barry, So.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I was raised as a middle class kid.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
All right, finish line, let's finish this thing. I just
pull these numbers out of my head. I thought it'd
be nice to raise ten thousand for Officer Durfy who
was shot the other day, for him and his wife
and his three young kids. So I started at twenty
five hundred, and at ten thirty we were at another
twenty five hundred, at twenty five dollars and fifty dollars
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and one hundred dollars and two hundred dollars that you
have been sending, which.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Got us to five thousand.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I got a message from the Texas Association of First
Responders from Tim Butler, who is the vice president there.
He's also an officer with the Houston Police Department in
the Major Offenders Division, and the Texas Association of First
Responders raises money for police officers injured in the line
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of duty. And he said, we would like to help
you get to your ten thousand dollar number. And so
we're matching your twenty five hundred with twenty five hundred
of our own, which means twenty five plus twenty five
plus another twenty five hundred our listeners have contributed gets
us to seventy five hundred, which gets us within twenty
five hundred dollars. And if you can do fifty or
one hundred or two fifty or whatever you can do
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before we go off the air, if you go to
assist the Officer dot com and click on events and
then click on upcoming benefits and you'll see it. If
that was too many clicks for you to remember, I
get it. Send me an email through the website Michael
Berryshow dot com and I will respond to you with
very simple, clear details. I'm an over communicator. I use
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too many words and try to simplify it too much
because that way it reduces the likelihood of error. And
you could and just tell me when you ask for
the link how much you're going to donate, because I'd
like to be able to announce that we got to
ten thousand before we go off the air in seven minutes.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
So help me do that. Please. Even if you can't
do much, it doesn't have to be that much. It's
the thought that counts.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
It's a widow's mite ramon and that email is Michael
at Michael Berryshow dot com, or just go to Michael
Berryshow dot com and you'll find that Chance McLain's song
from yesterday a number of you had asked for. We
are also going to put a link to that in
today's blast, so while you're at the website, click on
that as well. And thanks to our friend Matt Bryce
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at Federal American Grill, he reached out to Officer Durfey
and his partner who fortunately was not shot but also
was shot at who went into that house with him,
and they and their wives will be enjoying a dinner
at Federal American Grill very soon courtesy of Matt Bryce
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at Federal American Grill, who much like Russell Lebara is
constantly and mattress Mac for that matter, and Connie Stagner
who contributed five hundred to the cause today at a
Corey Diamonds and Design, always wanting to do something to
help people. And I think it's good business, I really do.
I think it pays itself back. Maybe not in the
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short term, but I think it pays itself back. In
endorphin release, you got to find some way that you
can find happiness. We were in the green room with
Tucker Crossing last night, Jesse, Kelly and I talking about
he quit drinking. And he's been very clear if you
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if you read what he's written over the years, that
he was a raging alcoholic and couldn't handle it and
he realized that he had to quit and he did
and it was hard for him. He was a journalist
at the time, uh, and it was kind of the life.
You know, you worked by day and then you went
to the bars and that's where you got your sources.
That's where people opened up to you and told you
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things that that's what gave you the insight, they'll do
what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
And then his smoking.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Picked up to a much It was a cigarette smoker
and just constantly smoking cigarettes he made and he is
to kick that and he did it with Zen, which
now he's not doing Zen, and he's created his own
product called ALP, because Zen has come out big for
Kamala Harris. But Tucker has a new product called Alp,
which he says was kind of built for him. It's
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his brand. And I don't know if he's announced the launch.
I think he's going to announce the launch. I'm not
revealing anything that I'm not allowed to reveal. But we
were talking last night about addiction, which is what got
me thinking about this. And here's a guy who talked
about you destroying his life and being grateful that he
fought that. And he said, look, my addiction today, my
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weakness today, I've got pretty good control of myself at
fifty five years old, is food and especially desserts. And
he said, I embarrassed myself when I'm with sponsors who
spent all this money for our tour and things like that,
when they see how I eat, he goes, that's what's
left to me, and that's what I do. I bury
my sadness and food. And we had a good laugh
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about it. So buddy of mine, I call him the
Aggie plumber, Michael Robinson. He's he's up in College Station,
just a small little plumbing company. He does most of
work himself and has a little plumbing and ac company
up there, and and he just works up in his area.
Family man, husband, dad, the whole deal. And he had
an overnight job for Gringos up there last night. And
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Gringos is always upgrad I've never seen body do this.
They're always renovating, always updating. Even though you know, I'll say,
what didn't you just do that store three years ago?
You got to step you know, you gotta have high standards.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
You got to keep doing.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
You've got to invest every every opinion we make, we
set aside a dollar for charity, We set aside for
for renovations, for improvements, for upgrades, for research.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Anyway, so he couldn't.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
When you work in a restaurant, as Bert Harvey will
tell you, you can't. You can't work while the people to there.
So he arrives last night at ten and he leaves
this morning at seven o'clock and that's a pretty long
night because he'd worked all day yesterday. And he sent
me a picture this morning of him at the waffle
house and it was a picture of the menu. And
I like to send people the menu sometimes I'll post
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this on Facebook and say what would you order? And
so I didn't see it in time, and of course
he had been up all night, and I said, what
did you get?
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Here was his order?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Ramon, you would approve three eggs over easy, bacon sausage,
a waffle, hash browns, grits, toast, coffee, a coke, and
five glasses of water.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
That's a meal.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
That's where you sit down and you've been working all night,
and nobody around you realizes, hey, y'all, i've.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Been working all night. Well, everybody else went home last
night and went to bed. I've been up all night.
And you know that.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Feeling you get where you're coffeed up and your teeth
you kind of gritting your teeth and your.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Eyes, your eyes feel dry and they ache.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Man, you sit down in a moment like that, three
eggs over easy bacon sausage. I like to imagine the
woman when he ordered it, saying, well, you have bacon
or sausage.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
My mentor, walterz Ivily, when I would ask him an
either or question, he would say yes, And I always
thought that was so funny.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
He was the first person I knew to do that.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Three eggs over easy, bacon, sausage, waffle, hash browns. I'm
not a hash brown guy of all the forms potatoes take.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Hash browns just wasteful to me. Grits I do a
double order grits toast.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
How come restaurants won't butter your toast for you? And
that's not some euphemism. I mean, I don't understand why
they can't butter your toast because by the time and
a lot of places bring out cold butter for your toast.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
I don't understand it.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
But the butter should be room timp and then you
got this clump of butter you're trying to put it
on the toast, which is digging through the toast. Don't
y'all realize they bring them out in those little packets.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Don't do that.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Put some butter on a plate, have it room timp
so like it can actually melt into the toast.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Do you people eat the food you're serving? Damn let's
check on how much we raise
It's that time.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Time, time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
The Michael Arry Show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Dansh de Sis that came to national attention in this
country when he made a movie about the evil.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
That was going on in this country and he told
a story in a narrative style that.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Folks went to the movie theater in a way that
you might pick up a book to learn. It was
advocacy in the form of storytelling through vivid pictures and
a narrative style that I don't think we had seen before.
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I was proud to be associated with that.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
It broke. It broke the record. At the time.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
The opening weekend, it was the top rated movie in
the country. Lionscape picked it up. It is not an
exaggeration to say that it made the distributors of movies,
the people that determine whether a movie, once made, is
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going to be seen by you or not, or whether.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
You're going to be exposed to it and choose the Igorna.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
That movie changed everything and everything that came after it
is derivative of it, and not just the series of
films that Denish de Suza has made, but a number
of other films that you know of. None of that
would have happened. The distributors wouldn't have touched it. The
big houses wouldn't have touched him. They realized there was.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
A massive market here.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
It also inspired a lot of people to use film
as their storytelling medium, and it's been very powerful. And
DeNisi de Susa did all that. That's not to say
that Denish de Susa woke up the day before that
and arrived on the scene. He was a long standing
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He used to debate Christopher Hitchins. He used to be
a university president.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
He had written a number of books.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
But he had been a person much like say Mark
Levin before Mark Levin began doing The Mark Levin Show,
who was making a difference, but to a very narrow audience.
And then he went mainstream. And I think to our advantage.
He to our benefit. He has a new movie out
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and the timing couldn't have been more perfect.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
That's not accidentally.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
He's very strategic thinker, and it's called vindicating Trump.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Here's a trader for that. Somebody has to help this country,
and if they don't, the country and the world are
in big trouble.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Someone's got to overturn the tables in the temple Trump
jumping into the presidential race.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
She's a bit worried of the apprentice guy, you know,
to fill in the power?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Could you handle it? Of wood at the vowel power?
They fear that power.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
You didn't do an insurrection.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Had you called for one, there.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Would have been one, and there would be one if
you called for one.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Now I'm not sure I want that power.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I want the power just to make the country better
way America first, and that scares them a lot about
Donald Trump scares them.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Let's look at everything campaign is family.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Let's get foreign eyes on him. If we have one target,
you know who he is.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Going after, their companies, their families. That is a dictator at.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
A very dangerous time for a country.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
The goal is to put him in jail because they're
so afraid of his voice.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I am your very I'm so deep and legal. He'll bankrupt.
Bro got him in jail right before the election. That's
hard for being that guy. But isn't that election interference?
It's not interference if we do it.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
We just want a free and fair election.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Sounds expensive ballots, saint cheap? Wait wait, wait, did you
actually say the word buy the ballots?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
We were able to purchase ten thousand ballots. That's terrifying.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
They cheated in many different ways. That's all they're good at.
Save democracy. We need to stop him permanently. Then that
person will be risking his life. That is not the sixties, right,
it's the way you survived. Must get me.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Trump has beaten back every attack against him. It's like
a tourney.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
We're going to fix our borders and we're going to
fix our elections.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
We're going to win my.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Legacy syndicating Trump the best is yet to come to.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Nih DeSUS is our guest. Welcome.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Thank you. I'm very excited about this movie, and like
you say, it's it's coming at a time when people
are making up their minds.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
First of all, what was the moment where you said
I have to make this movie. What was that moment
where you said, you know, this is something i'm watching
that I don't like, that needs to be fixed or
that needs to be told.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Well, I think it started with a bunch of comments
that I would hear from people on the Republican side.
And I don't just mean the never trump ers. I
mean the people who say things like this. You know,
I don't really like Trump but you know, I like
his policies, or I just wish he would shut his mouth,
or in other words, there's a campaign sort of to
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remake Trump, to rehabilitate him, to fix him. And I
got the idea that, you know what, we don't actually
need to remake Trump. We need to remake our understanding
of Trump. Why because for this moment in the country,
for this time, he's the right guy, and his peculiar
qualities are adapted and suited to what we need now.
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I'm not saying that he'd be the best candidate for
every time in American history, but I think for now
he is not only the best guy, he's in a
way kind of the only guy.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Radio is not very good for the audience when the
host stops to process something, and I find myself often
doing that.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Say that again, Well, let me say it a slightly
different way. Imagine if somebody were to go to Abraham
Lincoln and say, we don't like this General Grant. He's lazy,
he bankrupted his family's store, he curses even at his wife.
He's a philanderer, he's a drunk, you know, pull him
off the battlefield. Lincoln would say, are you insane? We're
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in a civil war. This is the best guy who
knows how to fight. We're a team that actually hasn't
been fighting all that well until now. So this is
kind of my point about Trump. The supreme virtue that's
required in politics right now on our side is courage.
This guy has it like nobody else. And I don't
just mean his reaction to the assassination attempts. Look at
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the way he handles ninety one criminal charges. Any other
Republicans facing three criminal charges would have long exited the race,
fled from the field, and we would never hear from
that person again. So Trump not only endures, he prevails.
I mean he deflects, he dodges, He's rope adope somehow,
they they think they've got him, but they never really
(08:02):
got him. And so what I'm getting at is that
we need somebody of that caliber. Now. He's in a
sense a kind of a wartime general, so to speak,
and he's very well suited to it. He even kind
of enjoys it.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And isn't that, in many ways a part of the
overall appeal for a people who have felt beaten down, forgotten, canceled, harassed.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
The entirety of it, and here is.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
A guy who stands up to it very publicly, and
it's like he's taking the slings and arrows that we
feel in our private lives.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Denesh Desusa is our guest. We'll talk about his.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Film Vindicating Trump where you can see it, when you
can see it, why he made it, and more coming out.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
An undocumented immigrant is not a criminals to Michael very Show,
we have to correct course in this conversation.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Deniesha Susa is our guest. The movie is vindicating Trump. Denisha,
I want to dig a little deeper here, and I'll
give you some time to answer these, but when you
foresee what's going to happen in the coming weeks, You've
been around this a long time. You've been arguing ideas
as much as the nuts and bolts and x'es and o's.
(09:23):
Where do you think the American people are? Not the
people who joined me and you at your film debut
of the Trump film at mar Lago a few years ago.
Not the people marching for Hamas or marching for Kamala.
I mean Middle America that's not particularly political.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Where do you think they are right now?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I think Middle America is nervous a little frightened and
quite honestly looking for a real change. And what we
are seeing is a cultivated orchestrated campaign to I would
(10:09):
call it a campaign of fact creation. And the fact
here is Kamala Harris. So what they're trying to do
is what the Left is actually brilliant at doing. See,
you and I believe in truth. We believe that there's
a reality out there. They believe the truth is something
that you create, that you devise, that you manufacture, and
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so they're trying to manufacture a kind of new and
different and improved Kamala Harris. And of course the election
becomes almost a test to see if the American people
are smart enough and can see through this illusion. Now
I think the American people are pretty smart. And the
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reason I think that is because, well, just take a movie,
the ordinary American sitting in a movie theater, and you've
got some kind of a complex who done it? And
the obvious suspect is not the real guy. But notice
how shrewd people aren't being able to pick up little
details that point to who the real bad guys are.
They're pretty good at doing that. They're not actually dumb.
(11:12):
They can see through a sham, And so I think
this is really a sort of a test as to
whether or not an orchestrated media campaign can give us
this kind of invented Kamala Harris as opposed to the
real Kamala Harris, because I think if we had a
fair media in this country, Trump would win sixty forty
or even sixty five thirty five.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I think you're absolutely right, Densh. I think you're absolutely
right when you look at reasons people might not vote
for Trump, that it would be in their best interest
to vote for Trump, and how that could be changed.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
What do you see?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Well, remember that, Well this isn't one of the opening
scenes of the movie, and it's the iconic scene of
Trump coming down the escalator. And I've thought about that
scene a little bit because to me, the keyword here
is down. See here's Trump. And he was a cultural celebrity.
He was in with Oprah and Ellen and Larry King
and all the other cool cats, and then he made
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that faithful decision. It wasn't just that he ran for president.
It wasn't just that he was a Republican, but it
was that he was sort of descending away from that
elite class and sort of joining hands with the ordinary American.
Now a lot of ordinary Americans got that. They became
grateful and attached to Trump because of that. That's why
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they won't give up on him. On the other hand,
it also helps to explain how the elites who were
previously his friends then came to despise and hate him
because they saw him as a trader to their class,
to their camp, to their group. Here's a guy who
was one of them, and then he joined with the
pitchfork people against them, and they'll never forgive him for
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doing that.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
That interesting, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
You see the people that haven't forgotten him, the herschel
Walkers and the Mike Tyson's and people that go way back,
and they say, listen, I know Donald Trump. Don't tell
me who he is or isn't I know him. I've
been there with him. But for all these people who
knew him over the years, the al Sharptons, the Jesse Jackson's,
Whoopie Goldbergs, you know, these folks, the Bette Midlers, who
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watched him contribute to causes, do good things. They went
to his parties, and now all of a sudden they
want to tell us he's the devil. They know that's
not true, and it says more about them than it
does him, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
It totally does. And also, look at all the people
who criticize Trump's character, you know, and they they'll say, well,
you know, he's he's a liar, he's a playboy, he's
you know, he's this guy is so he's got a
massive ego. And my point is, all right, number one,
let's look at those ill me Trump used to be
(14:01):
a playboy. Are you saying he's a playboy? Now? No,
No one says that he's so the best you got
on him? If he's a reformed playboy, not the worst
thing to be in the world. Okay, he's he's got
a massive ego. Well, guess what if you are facing
NonStop vicious attacks on every platform, every minute of every day,
wouldn't you need some kind of an ego as a protection,
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as your own personal wall. Otherwise you're just gonna crumble
as a human being. No normal person can withstand that
kind of fury. So in a weird way, I think
even some of Trump's vices, and they are vices, are
also at the same time political virtues. And finally, let's
look at Trump's virtues. He's magnanimous, he's very kind to
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ordinary people. The guys who work as dorman in his
hotels and catering love the guy. You'll never get one
of them to say a bad word about him. He
looks after his family and they're dedicated and even devoted
to him. And most of all, he has the supreme
virtue of courage. So that's part of what I try
to do in this film is bring out Trump. The
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centerpiece of the film is a one on one with Trump,
and I try to bring out some private aspects of
the man that I've seen over the years, but the
Trump himself conceals from the public. And so bringing that
out in a natural way in a conversation, I think
is the real accomplishment of this conversation with Trump.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I think you're right, Dan Aan, one of our listeners,
very informed, very committed to fixing this country. He says, Michael,
can you ask Denash about two thousand mules and why
our government will not prosecute the fraud, the work of
true the vote, the work of two thousand mules, all
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the things that have been learned in Arizona, in Georgia,
in Pennsylvania about the fraud.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
How can we get this prosecuted.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
So the short answer is this, the fraud that was
documented in the film focused on a lot of Democratic areas,
Fulton County in Georgia, Maricopa County, which is nominally Republican,
but also Detroit Democratic Philadelphia. So the point is that
the Democrats in charge there were obviously not eager to
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start quote looking into it.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
So it was up to.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Republicans, the Republican establishment in Georgia, for example, Governor Kemp,
or the Republicans in Arizona, or Republicans around the country
to scream and demand that somebody interview the mules. Maybe
the mules have a great explanation for why they're there
with backpacks in the middle of the night, putting ballots
one after the other. Maybe there's some explanation, Well what
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is it? But the point is the Republicans kind of
failed us because the Republicans were scared of being called
election deniers. There are a few radioactive topics for mainstream Republicans.
One of them is January sixth, certainly one of them
is the so called stolen election, and so they run.
There's a senator who we're close to and we're like, hey,
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come to our media room. We're we're going to play
two Thousand Mules. And the guy just never replied. And
I was thinking to myself, this is somebody I know,
why would he not reply? And then I figured it out.
He doesn't want to see the movie. And the reason
he doesn't want to see the movie is not because
it's false. He fears it's true. But if it's true
and he sees it, he's going to have to do
something about it, but he doesn't want to do anything
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about it. Therefore he doesn't want to see the movie.
So this psychology is the core reason why two Thousand Mules,
which sort of needed a next step and the next
step and the next step, and those steps were not forthcoming.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Nick Sercy was hanging out at my house. He said
he had come in early. He was going to be
filming the next day, and y'all were filming at a beautiful,
big home in Houston, and he said, you want to
drive over and see the house and see the set,
and I did, and you were coming out as we
were going in.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Is that what y'all were filming?
Speaker 3 (18:00):
You know? I I'm thinking back, it might have been
actually my last film, Police State now.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
No, yeah, that was.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Yeah, yeah. But he's also in you know, he also
plays the sort of director of the intelligence agents.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
He's our guest coming up, Maxlmore, Danesh Desusa.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Thank you for the great work. The movie is Vindicating Trump.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
It'll be out September twenty seventh, Go see it. I
just say more woke, the less woke, call still living.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Nothing like the call still Living.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Jamie Johnston be there. Lyndon Johnson used to tell him
old joke. When I was young and studying politicians and
speeches and campaigns and all those things. At the University
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of Texas, at the LBJ Presidential Library, there was a
cassette tape called The Humor of LBJ, and I bought
that tape and I listened to that tape over and
over and over again. And there were great stories that
LBJ told in speeches after he left the White House,
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and some of them were about Daryl k Royle, who
was a dear friend of his. And when I got
to meet Coach Royal at President Bush's inauguration in January
of two thousand and one, I started quoting one of
the speeches and he said how do you know that?
I said, Oh, I listened to LBJ speeches. He had
a bunch of them, a bunch of anecdotes about you
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really like what? And I was three or four stories
into it when Aikman, Staubach, Tony Dorsett had all surrounded
us and my wife. You've heard me tell the story,
so I forgive me if you've heard it ten times.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
But my wife said, I don't know who that old
man was you were talking to. But there was some
important people standing around. Well. That was coach Dell Okay Royle,
whose wife just passed recently.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
For those of you who've kept up with the royal
family over all those years, he told a story about
an old judge who's coming into the courtroom one day
and out in front of the courthouse there's a there's
a there's a bum, and the bum says, judge, can
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you give me a quarter for a cup of coffee?
And the judge said, shame on you. You're not gonna
spend it on a cup of coffee. You're gonna go
buy some cheap liquor and get drunk. Now, if you'd
said to me, judge, can you give me a quarter,
I'm hungover and I need a little.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Hair of the dog to get through the morning.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I'd probably give you a dollar, and the bum said, Judge,
you've been there, hadn't you. You know, for people who
have seen the depths of despair, whatever that is, you
know that you never forget that feeling. I don't want
to say I have enjoyed because I don't want to
minimize it.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
But I.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Don't have a good word for it. But thank you
for those of you who have shared your stories of
addiction this morning. I knowe with me in writing. I
know that's not an easy thing to do, but for
some of you it's cathartic to tell it and remind
yourself and remind yourself, and we all have to do
this that on your worst day, you're still here and
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you're better than.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
You could have been.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Maybe not as good as you could be, but better
than you could have been. You've made some good decisions,
You've done some good things. Beverly writes Zar, I'm a
recovering drug addict. I used opiates for over twelve years,
which started with prescriptions from a dentist after a root canal,
But there was a period of time that I was
using cocaine after being introduced to it at a narcotic
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synonymous meeting I was forced to go to when I
was on probation. I'm an addict of most anything. If
it changed the way I felt, I'd do it. I
tried cocaine and I was shooting it in less than
a year. I'm a true addict food, sex, drugs. It
doesn't matter anyway. You asked how it makes you feel.
I'm too chicken to call. But it just makes you
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feel amazing, invincible, brave, confident, war them all over. A
true addict won't be a functional coke addict for very long.
I was working as the office manager for a local
attorney when I started, but ended up without a job,
a car, anything. It's a progressive disease. I was a
functional addict on opiates though, as long as they didn't
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run out, but of course they always do anyway. After
getting sent to rehab for nine months versus going to
jail for three years, I got clean on April second,
two thousand and six. That was the day I had
to turn myself in at the jail wait for a
bed at the rehab in Corpus CHRISTI. After that, I
went back to college. I got my degree, and I've
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been cleaned for about sixteen years. I'm a veteran of
the Army National Guard, a physical therapist assistant, and a
mother of two. There but for the grace of God,
go aye.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I love that story.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I'm a lot less judgmental than I was when I
was a younger man. When I was a younger man,
I would look at that person for all the sins
of their past, And at fifty three, I say, there
is a brave, strong, accomplished person. Good for you.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
You have climbed a mountain.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
When it comes to be a colony, do you believe
America are better off than they were four years ago?
Michael Barry, So.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I was raised as a middle class kid.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
All right, finish line, let's finish this thing. I just
pull these numbers out of my head. I thought it'd
be nice to raise ten thousand for Officer Durfy who
was shot the other day, for him and his wife
and his three young kids. So I started at twenty
five hundred, and at ten thirty we were at another
twenty five hundred, at twenty five dollars and fifty dollars
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and one hundred dollars and two hundred dollars that you
have been sending, which.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Got us to five thousand.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I got a message from the Texas Association of First
Responders from Tim Butler, who is the vice president there.
He's also an officer with the Houston Police Department in
the Major Offenders Division, and the Texas Association of First
Responders raises money for police officers injured in the line
(24:55):
of duty. And he said, we would like to help
you get to your ten thousand dollar number. And so
we're matching your twenty five hundred with twenty five hundred
of our own, which means twenty five plus twenty five
plus another twenty five hundred our listeners have contributed gets
us to seventy five hundred, which gets us within twenty
five hundred dollars. And if you can do fifty or
one hundred or two fifty or whatever you can do
(25:17):
before we go off the air, if you go to
assist the Officer dot com and click on events and
then click on upcoming benefits and you'll see it. If
that was too many clicks for you to remember, I
get it. Send me an email through the website Michael
Berryshow dot com and I will respond to you with
very simple, clear details. I'm an over communicator. I use
(25:39):
too many words and try to simplify it too much
because that way it reduces the likelihood of error. And
you could and just tell me when you ask for
the link how much you're going to donate, because I'd
like to be able to announce that we got to
ten thousand before we go off the air in seven minutes.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
So help me do that. Please. Even if you can't
do much, it doesn't have to be that much. It's
the thought that counts.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
It's a widow's mite ramon and that email is Michael
at Michael Berryshow dot com, or just go to Michael
Berryshow dot com and you'll find that Chance McLain's song
from yesterday a number of you had asked for. We
are also going to put a link to that in
today's blast, so while you're at the website, click on
that as well. And thanks to our friend Matt Bryce
(26:23):
at Federal American Grill, he reached out to Officer Durfey
and his partner who fortunately was not shot but also
was shot at who went into that house with him,
and they and their wives will be enjoying a dinner
at Federal American Grill very soon courtesy of Matt Bryce
(26:44):
at Federal American Grill, who much like Russell Lebara is
constantly and mattress Mac for that matter, and Connie Stagner
who contributed five hundred to the cause today at a
Corey Diamonds and Design, always wanting to do something to
help people. And I think it's good business, I really do.
I think it pays itself back. Maybe not in the
(27:06):
short term, but I think it pays itself back. In
endorphin release, you got to find some way that you
can find happiness. We were in the green room with
Tucker Crossing last night, Jesse, Kelly and I talking about
he quit drinking. And he's been very clear if you
(27:27):
if you read what he's written over the years, that
he was a raging alcoholic and couldn't handle it and
he realized that he had to quit and he did
and it was hard for him. He was a journalist
at the time, uh, and it was kind of the life.
You know, you worked by day and then you went
to the bars and that's where you got your sources.
That's where people opened up to you and told you
(27:47):
things that that's what gave you the insight, they'll do
what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
And then his smoking.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Picked up to a much It was a cigarette smoker
and just constantly smoking cigarettes he made and he is
to kick that and he did it with Zen, which
now he's not doing Zen, and he's created his own
product called ALP, because Zen has come out big for
Kamala Harris. But Tucker has a new product called Alp,
which he says was kind of built for him. It's
(28:16):
his brand. And I don't know if he's announced the launch.
I think he's going to announce the launch. I'm not
revealing anything that I'm not allowed to reveal. But we
were talking last night about addiction, which is what got
me thinking about this. And here's a guy who talked
about you destroying his life and being grateful that he
fought that. And he said, look, my addiction today, my
(28:42):
weakness today, I've got pretty good control of myself at
fifty five years old, is food and especially desserts. And
he said, I embarrassed myself when I'm with sponsors who
spent all this money for our tour and things like that,
when they see how I eat, he goes, that's what's
left to me, and that's what I do. I bury
my sadness and food. And we had a good laugh
(29:03):
about it. So buddy of mine, I call him the
Aggie plumber, Michael Robinson. He's he's up in College Station,
just a small little plumbing company. He does most of
work himself and has a little plumbing and ac company
up there, and and he just works up in his area.
Family man, husband, dad, the whole deal. And he had
an overnight job for Gringos up there last night. And
(29:27):
Gringos is always upgrad I've never seen body do this.
They're always renovating, always updating. Even though you know, I'll say,
what didn't you just do that store three years ago?
You got to step you know, you gotta have high standards.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
You got to keep doing.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
You've got to invest every every opinion we make, we
set aside a dollar for charity, We set aside for
for renovations, for improvements, for upgrades, for research.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Anyway, so he couldn't.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
When you work in a restaurant, as Bert Harvey will
tell you, you can't. You can't work while the people to there.
So he arrives last night at ten and he leaves
this morning at seven o'clock and that's a pretty long
night because he'd worked all day yesterday. And he sent
me a picture this morning of him at the waffle
house and it was a picture of the menu. And
I like to send people the menu sometimes I'll post
(30:15):
this on Facebook and say what would you order? And
so I didn't see it in time, and of course
he had been up all night, and I said, what
did you get?
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Here was his order?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Ramon, you would approve three eggs over easy, bacon sausage,
a waffle, hash browns, grits, toast, coffee, a coke, and
five glasses of water.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
That's a meal.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
That's where you sit down and you've been working all night,
and nobody around you realizes, hey, y'all, i've.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Been working all night. Well, everybody else went home last
night and went to bed. I've been up all night.
And you know that.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Feeling you get where you're coffeed up and your teeth
you kind of gritting your teeth and your.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Eyes, your eyes feel dry and they ache.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Man, you sit down in a moment like that, three
eggs over easy bacon sausage. I like to imagine the
woman when he ordered it, saying, well, you have bacon
or sausage.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
My mentor, walterz Ivily, when I would ask him an
either or question, he would say yes, And I always
thought that was so funny.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
He was the first person I knew to do that.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Three eggs over easy, bacon, sausage, waffle, hash browns. I'm
not a hash brown guy of all the forms potatoes take.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Hash browns just wasteful to me. Grits I do a
double order grits toast.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
How come restaurants won't butter your toast for you? And
that's not some euphemism. I mean, I don't understand why
they can't butter your toast because by the time and
a lot of places bring out cold butter for your toast.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
I don't understand it.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
But the butter should be room timp and then you
got this clump of butter you're trying to put it
on the toast, which is digging through the toast. Don't
y'all realize they bring them out in those little packets.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Don't do that.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Put some butter on a plate, have it room timp
so like it can actually melt into the toast.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Do you people eat the food you're serving? Damn let's
check on how much we raise
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