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until he was digging.
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I was just.
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Explaining to your better head have here that when we
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Looking forward to seeing you good folks tomorrow evening. I'm
looking forward to some college Footballtimore. Who man, there are
some games on tap. Gary, you're on the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
Go ahead, Hey, Michael, this is Gary, longtime listener, love
your show.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Topic for you.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
I'd like to get your input. I just went to
Ted Cruz fundraiser up in Huntsville on Wednesday, had a
big crowd, and he mentioned that there's a one hundred,
one hundred million dollars flooding into Texas from Soros and.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
The left Yes to prop up Colin Hall Red.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
And I just want to say that it's despicable that
we're allowing so much money to be flooded into these elections.
I know there was campaign reform done in the eighties
when Reagan was in office, but that probably didn't hold
much water. What's your take on how are we going
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to if you think that campaign contribution is a problem
for the future, and how can we solve it?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Well, let me ask you a question, Gary, how much
should we limit the campaign funding to.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Well, I would love to see campaign contributions for state
officials limited to those from people who live in the state.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I don't I don't disagree with that that that is
a very thoughtful and reasoned and narrowly terror tailored restriction.
It was ruled in Citizens United case years ago. Some
people will remember it was ruled that campaign contributions are
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free speech. Now, that made people up that, but I
believe it to be true. If I make, if I
or you make a lot of money in our lifetime,
and we say I want to help that candidate over
there get elected, I want to contribute to them, then
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why who should be able to say no, you can't
do that. That was the ruling, and I think it
was the right ruling. Everybody wants to reform campaign contributions,
but nobody wants to actually give money. And that's not
a popular talk radio thing to say we can take
all the money out of the processor, so I'm told,
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But I don't know that that makes things any better.
What we really get down to and let's let's let's
I think it's better to really boil things down to
the true problem. The true problem is that there are
people who want to control our government for purposes that
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are outside our best interests, and those people are going
to do whatever they can do to get there now,
whether that's cheating at the ballot box, whether that's registering
illegal alien voters or foreign voters abroad, whether that's mailing
out ballots to everyone, to people that are dead and
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somehow managing to get those ballots returned and keeping the
process from being able to check, giving money to candidates
to spend, because the idea is if they have money,
they can convince you to vote against your best interests.
All of those things are true, and there will always
be other ways to do that. Self governance is an ugly, messy,
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sloppy process. There's nowhere around that. There is no way
around that. And when you think about all the people
of a football game this weekend, all the people from
around the country trying to control who wins and loses
that game. But it should be the boys on the field, right,
it's their game, it's their team, it's our country. You've
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literally got the entire world now participating in our election.
That's sickening, sickening that this should happen, that it could happen,
but it is happening. And as you note, we know
it's happening. But if people did the right thing, I
will tell you I'm going to speak out of turn
here right now. I think Trump wins by between six
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and ten percentage points. In Texas. He could win fifty
five to forty five. Probably not that high, be too
much cheating in Harris County, but he could. It's possible
cruises up by a percentage and a half, and there
are a lot of reasons for that. But a percentage
and a half is within the margin of error. And
so people tell me things. They say, Hey, Test's not
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over here, and tests not over here, and test not
spending money in ten because Ted doesn't have the money
that all Red does. Well, well, I already have all
the money because California, in New York, he's not doing
public appearances. I know exactly what he's doing. I know
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where he lives. He's sitting in his house. He's not
going out. That is a strategy by some very smart people.
They're spending a lot of money, and they're flooding the airwaves.
They are flooding the airways with Colin all Red's a
great guy. And Ted Cruz took a trip to Mexico.
You mean during the storm when a US senator, when
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the other US senators were in Washington, d C. And
had nothing to do with what was going on in Texas.
His daughter, who was in a bad way at the time,
he took a vacation with her because since the Senate
wasn't in session, he put being a father first. Okay,
all right, so you're gonna put allread in. Do you
know anything about already? You know anything about him? Do
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you know that he declared that if they build a wall,
he'll tear it down. Do you know that he declared
that people who have a problem with men who identify
as girls being in girls' bathrooms, that that's their problem,
not the kid. The kid comes first. All Red is
all wrong for Texas. That's why I call him all wrong. Allred.
Speaker 8 (08:29):
He's a bad, bad guy. He's a very bad guy.
He's outside our interests. But Ted doesn't have enough money
to compete on that level. So it's our job to
help him win because if he doesn't win.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
You see, Barack Obama came out of nowhere and they
painted him as a certain person, and then boy, he's
the devil. That's what's happening is because people are not
focusing on what's happening in Texas. Mary, You're on the
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Michael Berry Show. We're honored to have you. Go ahead, sweetheart,
thank you.
Speaker 9 (09:16):
I just wanted to tell you. When I was growing up,
I heard about and they called it the Texas City Blast.
I heard about that, you know, all the time, because
I lived with my I was lift with my parents
and they divorced, and then it was with my grandparents.
But I was I wasn't born yet. It was in
forty seven. I was born in forty nine, but that was,
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you know, a big thing. And I still have the
newspaper clippings. We moved recently, and I have my father's,
I have things of his, my grandmother's, and I had
the newspaper clippings all about it, and they're like yellow
and brittle, but it's all about the Texas City Blast.
My father, my uncle, and my grandfather worked at the
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plants in Texas City at the time. And I remember
my grandmother telling me how my aunt and my sister
I had an older sister, and my grandmother and my
aunt were all just waiting on pins and needles because
you know, they felt that they lived in Keema and
felt that they heard it. No cell phones or anything.
They didn't know if they were okay, if they were dead,
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if they were on their way home, and I think
they had to catch rides with other people to get
home because they couldn't take their car. I think there
was probably one car, maybe two, but they worked at
the plants and it was there used to be in
Texas City. I'm sure there is. There's a memorial to
all the people that they didn't find. They just found
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body parts, and it's a memorial to the people that
died in the Texas City glass.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
You've been there a mom. Mary, I'm looking at a
story on the Texas City blast, as you call it,
and it's a two ton anchor that they retrieved, a
two ton an that was thrown one point six miles.
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Why are you not in your hand like, yeah, huh oh,
you've seen it.
Speaker 9 (11:16):
Okay, I am too. That's all right because we've both
seen it, and yeah, it was it was really something.
When I was growing up, they talked about it all
the time.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Mary. Did you say, did you say we have both
seen it or we both seen it both.
Speaker 9 (11:34):
I'm sure he's seen it and I've seen it when
I grew up.
Speaker 10 (11:37):
Down.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I love that. I like you, Mary. I can tell
I like you. I could tell we could. You could
live next door and you'd come over, or I'd come
over and we'd all sit out back, and I'd put
a bug zapper on and I'd bring a ice chest,
and we'd drink beer and talk bad about people, and
it would be fun.
Speaker 9 (11:56):
Well, I would love to have you, but I live
in Huntsville.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Now I'll come the hospital. I got one of these
things now they call an automobile. I can go anywhere.
Speaker 10 (12:05):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
You know what.
Speaker 9 (12:07):
You wouldn't like me because I have cats.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I don't care. I don't hate cats as much as
I act like. Here's the thing. I'm gonna tell you
the truth, Mary, can I can I confess something to
you that I've never told him? I said, do not
tell us I told you this. I always hated cats,
partially because they aggravate my allergies, but partially because I
love dogs so much, and a dog, a dog loves
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you back. A dog loves you more than you love them.
You come home, you can walk outside for two minutes
and George, my German shepherd, I can leave and forget
my keys and come back here and say, right, George,
I've been gone for sixty seconds, whereas cats look at you,
you know, like why are you here? But I have
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come to appreciate, especially in the country, the things that
cats kill. It's rather amazing for what a little bitty
thing they are, and how much good they do with mice.
And they're very useful around a farm. So let's not
let that impede our burgeoning friendship. Mary.
Speaker 9 (13:13):
Well, my cats don't go outside, because it's a long
story that anyways, my cats, Mary, if you.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Just don't want to be my friend and just say it,
listen to this.
Speaker 9 (13:23):
Mary, I do want to.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
On Wednesday, April sixteenth, nineteen forty seven, around eight am,
smoke was spotted in the cargo hold of Grand Camp
while she was still moored. Longshoremen used a gallon jug
of water and two fire extinguishers, but they had no effect,
and the cargo hold filled with smoke. Maybe we could
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do the reck of the Edmund fish Joe, just something
no better word. The longshoremen were then ordered to leave.
At this point, the captain of Grand Camp ordered that
no water be used lest the cargo be went. Instead,
he ordered all hatches sealed and the hold to be
filled with steam in an attempt to smother the fire.
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Mary This was unlikely to be effective, as ammonium nitrate
is an oxidizer, thus neutralizing the extinguishing properties of steam.
The steam may have contributed to the fire by converting
the ammonium nitrate to nitrous oxide while augmenting the already
intense heat in the ship's hold. Around eight thirty am,
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the steam pressure became so great that it blew off
the hatches. A column of yellow orange smoke billowed out,
the typical color for nitrogen dioxide fumes. The fire and
its unusual looking smoke attracted spectators along the shoreline who
believed they were at a safe distance. Can you imagine, honey,
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let's go look into fire. There's a fire down there
where over on that they got that ship. Laverne said,
it is a fire going down. Oh okay, let me
put my shoes on, and they went down to watch
the fire. Responding fire departments, including the Texas City Volunteer
Fire Department and the Republic Oil Refining Company firefighting team.
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At nine to twelve a m. The ammonium nitrate reached
an explosive threshold from the combination of heat and pressure.
Grand Camp detonated, causing utter destruction within two thousand feet
and extreme damage through the port. The tremendous blast produced
a fifteen foot tsunami and a shockwave, leveling nearly one
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thousand buildings on land. Among the buildings destroyed was a
Monsanto Chemical Company plant, killing one hundred and forty five
of its four hundred and fifty workers. Flying shrapnel resulted
in ignition of refineries and chemical tanks along the waterfront.
Falling bales of burning twine from and Camp's cargo added
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to the damage, and her anchor was hurled across the city.
Two sightseeing planes flying nearby were blown out of the sky,
while eight miles away, half the windows in Galveston were shattered.
While eight miles away, half the windows in Galveston were shattered, Moon,
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are you listening? While eight miles away, that's a long way.
Half the windows in Galveston were shattered. The explosion blew
the almost sixty three hundred and fifty short tons of
the ships steal into the air, some at supersonic speed.
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All the fire fars. The Texas City disaster is considered
the worst industrial accent accident in American history, the.
Speaker 10 (16:59):
Worst Nobody ever talked about it unless you lived through it.
And my grandmother, my sister, and my aunt, and then
of course my uncle and my father and my grandfather.
You know, I mean, it was a really scary time
for them.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
No, Mary, you're the call of the day. Hold on,
I'm gonna send you at gringos yestortivity. They don't have
a Gringos and the Huntsville to them, what will be
the clos con.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
The nine food.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Dwayne Hefley was a probably thirty year firefighter. How many
years he was a fire fights firefighter for a long time.
His brother was Hammerhead that used to do the FM
morning fishing report down there. He was a hoot too.
But Dwayne, at about I think he was twenty seven
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years old, started the Firehouse Saloon fifty nine in fountain View.
And he started it. It's a funny story. You got
to hear him tell it. But his opening weekend, he
hadn't even paid his rent yet. His rent would be
due in a week, but that the idea was he
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wasn't going to open yet. But he didn't tell Ken
Singer or whoever owned the property at the time. Ken
Singer would own it later. I don't know if they
owned it at the time. But I mean, you talk about
a shoe string. This business had no there's no way
this thing was going to make it. But it did
because Dwayne is a scrapper and a scrounger and and
he's going to make it happen. He's this is a
guy one way or another, he's getting you through that storm.
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So they had their their beer delivered and most of
you wouldn't know this, there's no reason you would. But
state law in Texas is that you cannot take delivery
of alcohol on terms. You have to pay for alcohol
as it's delivered. So and it's a big deal. TABC
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will nail you. This is there's things people do in
the business that they shouldn't do what they do, that's
one of them that you do not get caught doing.
And the beer like the big Boys, Silver Eagle, Foul Star,
they won't even risk it because there's nobody worth them
getting into trouble over this. But somehow Dwayne back in
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the day got the beer delivered and did this whole Oh,
I don't have my money, you know what, let me go.
It's gonna take me two hours to drive and get it.
But I'll go get the cash. The guy says, he
delivers on Saturday morning. All right, you and get me fired,
but I'll come back on Monday. You've got to have
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my money, he said, Okay, he had to sell the
beer to pay for the beer. He didn't have the
money to pay for the beer. But this is classic
quintessential Dwayne. Well. I say all that to say this,
You just played a Joe Diffie song. So I for
years I would quiz people about what they did right
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and what they did wrong. And Firehouse was a was
a long time music venue, and I asked him one time,
I said, who is the band or artist that was
the biggest delta between what you thought they would do
and what they did do. You thought they were gonna
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kill it, You're gonna have a huge crowd, and nothing.
What was the one? He said, I don't even have
to think about it. In fact, Michael, you can call
everybody in Texas, it's in our business and ask him
this question and it'll all be one answered Joe Diffy.
And I think Joe Diffy had three number ones, but
Dwayne said he had the number one song on the
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air at the time on What's the one hundred point
three or what was kilt? Yeah, no, no, I think
it might have been KKK at the time, but I
think it was killed. But he said he had the
number one song in the not the red dirt song,
number one song in the country. Did Joe diffy? He said,
And it was fifty thousand dollars, And I thought it
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don't matter because there's gonna be so many people come in.
He said there wasn't but a dozen. Or it was
the biggest bust of my life. So fast forward. We
had a night like that, but it wasn't on me.
Pastorini was putting on an event and Larry Gatlin was singing,
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and Larry was I think ten thousand. So it made
sense because it's a fundraiser, right, you wanted to make
you want to make some money for the Pastorini charity
out of the deal. And Larry has always had voice problems,
and Larry's throat goes out, so he has to cancel.
It's like four days before the show. Dan says, you
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got to get me somebody else. Well, it's a Saturday night, Dan,
it's a red flag. Somebody doesn't have a gig on
Saturday night. So I start scratching and scratch and calling
people that I know. Can you you don't have a show,
Can he come to a show? Well, the Tracy Birds
and Mark Chestnuts and everybody I know, Saturday night is
the night Cory Morrow, Roger Craigor, everybody's. But so I
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put it out to a booking agency and I said,
just tell me everyone that's available for Saturday night and
they said, there's literally only one name you're gonna know,
Joe Diffy. Yeah, Yeah, that's my Joe Diffy story. You
can you can slug that segment. He's passed away now,
so I can tell it without feeling bad because it
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doesn't make him a bad guy. It's not like, you know,
it's not like he stole from us or you know,
did anything wrong. He just recorded songs that did well
on the radio, and nobody ever, nobody wanted to come
out and see him in a show. Likewise, you got,
you know, the other side of that corners. You got
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guys that never really got a lot of airplay, but
they could kill well. Grateful to yea perfect example, no airplay,
crowd that would go on the road and you know,
caravan behind him. It's crazy to think Ramon. I don't
know if I ever told you this story. Did I
ever see your story about whippets? Okay, So, Lauren Cole
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was our general manager at the time, and we had
a Wednesday afternoon meeting in between our morning show and
evening show. I would drive to the RCC and our
management team we would all meet. We would go over
operations personnel. That would be our cabinet meeting, and then
we would we would talk about who we were going
to book. And she said, I can't remember who the
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band was, Joe Blowband whatever. It was a red dirt
band and it wasn't a major band, but it was
one of these many mini bands that are out there
trying to make it named Jason or Josh or Justin
or something, and so she said, yeah, Well, I said,
how was the weekend and she said, well, Saturday was
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da da da dah, and Friday was okay, but you know, Jason, Justin,
Josh whatever, Jeremy is certainly not coming back. And yeah
they he no, they start going And I said, what
do you mean not coming back? What did they do?
I need to know what they did, not because I
need to know, but I'm you know, nosy and she said, oh,
you didn't hear and I said no, and the other
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they didn't want me to know things like this because
they thought it was something that I just the less
I knew, the better. And uh, he was doing whippets
out behind a bus, and I said, what are whippets?
And apparently whippets are. Do you know this? You take
whip cream and you take the nicer so ox side
or whatever it is whatever that I may not be
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get it, and it makes you momentarily high. Well now
apparently they sell them as just the unit because you
know this. You don't even have to mess around with
the whip cream. You just buy the straight leg.
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Pretio hell.
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And them want to stay talk right now widnim is
something we did?
Speaker 11 (26:02):
I want to say talk We got to think about
life every ready, that might be a Mike Bobian profession.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Steve, you're on the Michael Berry Show. Go ahead, sir.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Michael.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
I've been been waiting and trying to tell you this
story about the baseball field in West University for a
long time. So you brought up Dwayne Hefley this morning,
and I grew up with all of the Hethleys. Roy
Senior was actually in my aunt's class at Lamar High School,
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and Roy Junior, he and I were, and we played
ball at West University of the league all the way
through the All Star team. So the story about the
field was in nineteen sixty Shell said they were going
to move their world headquarters to Houston, and when the
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league was founded in nineteen forty seven, the field was
built behind Coke Coal Bottling Company at Bess and That and.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
Wake Forest, and so.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Coke came to the league and said, look, you know
we needed property to expand. It's their property, but we
got to expand. So we petitioned HISD to allow us
to build a field on West University Elementary school grounds
and they approved it. So in nineteen seventy we started
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it and it was all the dads and all the kids,
and we built that field at the corner of Auden
and West University. And so I just thought it was
a pretty cool story because most people don't know that
that field was built by the dads and the kids.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
That's pretty cool. I'm processing, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Did the other thing the other thing about it? That
was really cool? Wash And I'm still friends with this guy.
He and I became friends in kindergarten. His dad was
a genius electrical engineer, and he fabricated the two scoreboards
that were mounted on the press box and the concession stand.
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He fabricated and made them by and using LCD's liquid
crystal displays that weren't even being used in the marketplace
at the time. And those scoreboards stood up on that
building until they remodeled it, probably twenty five years. So
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AH just been walking a U and wes U. Guy,
I know you lived there and I grew up there,
and I just wanted to tell you that story.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I lived at the corner of Brompton and Pittsburgh, fronting
on Pittsburgh. It was one hundred foot wide.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Right down the street, right down the street.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
So much In fact, if you lived there, you knew
the husband had died in the house. But the wife,
Dlight Swaeney is who I bought it from in nineteen
ninety seven. And Dlight was a Dlight. She was a sweetheart,
and she moved to Industry, Texas, and we would get
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mail for her for her for years. And I went
down to the back then it was called mailboxes, et cetera.
And I got a brown mailing envelope. I still do
this my dad for all. I handle all their finances.
So I have just a big brown envelope, padded envelope,
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and I go ahead and put you know whatever, five
or ten dollars of stamps on it. Emily does it,
so I don't know how much she puts on there,
but and my dad has them at the house, and
so once a week he takes all the mail and
dumps it in that thing and sends it to me
and then I go through it. And he didn't have
to fool with it. And I used to do that
for Delight, and she would write me back a thank
you note for every time I send him, and I'm like, sweetheart,
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you've lived in this house at this point for fifty years.
Her husband came home. True story. Her husband came home
from World War Two and they got married immediately upon
him getting return one him return, or maybe they got
married right before. And they lived with her parents for
a year and a half and in late forty six,
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early forty seven they moved into that house and they
lived there till I bought it from Dlight. He had
passed away in ninety seven, So fifty years they lived
in that home. How about that? And it was the
coolest thing ever living on that street at that time.
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About four houses over was Craig Bigio, nicest neighbor you could,
let me tell you something. That was the nicest neighbor
you could ever have. Now, he didn't want to be bothered,
but he was very polite, very kind. But it was
doctor Rowe. I had all the best doctors. Richard Harper,
who was a prominent neurosurgeon in town. Every doctor will
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know Richard Harper, he was at better College of Medicine.
Had Jack Roth who lived immediately next door to us,
who had developed a cancer treatment that was cutting edge
at the time that M. D. Anderson had made a
fortune and he had made the fortune off of that
spinning it off because the company had come in and
bought the technology. There was David Lienberger, prominent doctor Bill Bryant,
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who's a very very prominent orthopedic surgeon. He was the
one when I was playing basketball with the kids in
the neighborhood, because I was the old guy who would
play basketball with the kids in the neighborhood, which I
got a kick out of it. I came down on
I got little, I got a little bit of tiny
spindling ankles to start with. I've always had trouble with
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my ankles, and I come down on this kid's foot,
so I don't get to land and my ankle is
so bad, and my wife we hobble over to Bill
Bryan's and he's diagnosing my problem on the spot. And
since he was the astros orthopedic doctor, I asked him
how it compared to win Seesar Sadanio had shattered his ankle,
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and he said, well, he screamed and hollered a lot
more than you, but his was also a lot worse
than yours, So I guess we can figure that in.
And who else was on that street? There was another
doctor on the oh, my hash Ramchandali, who was a
heart surgeon, and oh, it was such a neat We
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had this house that should have been torn down, and
everybody else had five million dollar houses. And that was
back when a five million dollar house was a big deal.
Now they're all five million dollar houses. But oh, Pete Roussel,
who was Press secretary to Ronald Reagan, was directly across,
and he was in a house that had been built
in nineteen forty that he had been born into. And
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then Paul Bragg, who was the CEO of Pride Energy.
It was just kind of funny because here I was
in my mid twenties, I had my little b business,
I had no money, and I had bought this little
house and everybody thought it was gonna be torn down,
and I couldn't afford there down