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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Time, time, time, luck, and look, Michael Verishow is on
the air.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
The reason I ask people to call and share who
they're voting for and why so I want you to
get comfortable doing this. This is game time, man, this
is fourth quarter. This is why you go through two
a days. This is why you wear pads in a heat.
This is why you run the long distances and lift
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weights and eat right. And it's not for the beginning
of the game. It's for the end. And that's where
we are. This is the moment. We're going to look
back on these next three weeks for the rest of
our lives.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
And I hope it's not wistful. I hope it's not regretful.
I'm not going to be. And I don't want you
to be.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Your story, your testimony, your message, your journey is important
and I want you to feel very comfortable saying that,
not just to the rest of us on this show.
I want you to go to your social media page,
whatever that is, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook. I want you to
speak to your Sunday school class. I want you to
speak to your homeowners associated and say, hey, I'm voting
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for Trump and here's the reason. Here's why it matters
to me. Some of you might surprise people. Some of
you might really surprise people that didn't expect someone like
you was so concerned about the country. And this is
what's driving you to vote. You've got to have the courage.
Your testimony matters. Don't sit quietly other people speak out.
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You should. Your story is just as valid and just
as important as there's this all right, Kevin, Just before
we went to break, you said you'd kept a journal
and you were able to see patterns develop.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Tell me about that. I love the self study.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I love how introspective you are and how you're trying
to figure out where you made mistakes. So I love
that you're studying yourself, working on yourself.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
You know, they say it's it's a biblical.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Saying, but when you give, when you name a demon,
he loses his power.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
And it's sort of the similar thing with life because
once I could see the pattern, now I can notice
it before as it starts to happen, and catch it
before it can do any damage to me. And so
in the last almost five years that I've been out here,
I would catch myself.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
When my thinking would go wrong, and.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I just It's all because I spent the time that
I needed to spend well on this last prison bid,
not worrying about being in prison. I'm not a you know,
I don't worry about my personal safety in there. I'm
not the kind of guy who people and I'm not
saying being cocky, but I can handle myself. And it
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was known, so I didn't have to worry about being
in prison, and I could spend the time I needed
working on the outside life and what I was going
to do and how I was going to change and
stop these patterns from happening.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
And so far, four and a half.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Years out on the street, almost five years April b
five years, things are amazing.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Got a great.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Relationship with my wife. I actually met her while I
was in prison, and you know, my son, I got
my children back in My life is wonderfully.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I've known a lot of people to go through what
you've gone through. The drugs changed, but the scenario is
the same. And I have a theory so based on
a lot of experience trying to be a good friend
for people as as they go through this, and then
talking to a lot of listeners. I engage a lot
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of listeners by email who will share their story and
then I'll dig deeper and we'll go back and forth,
and they know I won't tell their particular story.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
On the air. It's just for me to learn.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And I have a theory that whether it's alcohol or
gambling or narcotics, whatever that may be, it's not the
drug that is the lure.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Uh, that's not.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
The temptation to go back to. It is there is something.
There is a synapse. It's not firing that or a
synapse that is firing that shouldn't that that leads to that?
When can you identify what it is that made you,
especially as you got older, once you knew the consequences
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when you're young, you're young and dumb. You know, I
get that, you gotta be you got to be slapped,
you got to you got to that hot pot one
time to realize that it burns, But to keep going back,
Have you identified what it is, what it was and
is about you that you were trying to fulfill?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Well, the one thing that I can say is in
in retrospect now, after spending all that time, you know,
reflecting on my life and seeing these patterns, what I
had noticed was that since I was a little kid.
You know, my parents were separated, divorced. I would live
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with my mom and when I was you know, when
she wanted to go do what she wanted to do
and I was in the way, well then i'd move.
She'd move me to my dad's and vice versa. So
every time my life would get comfortable, I'd get uprooted
and move. And so what I noticed was in my adult.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
In my adult life, I would have.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Some success and things would be going well and life
would be comfortable, and then all of a sudden, you know,
it would seem like, for no reason, I'd be off
on a drug binge, and you know, three months later,
I'm back in prison. And I attribute that to that
was the pattern that started as a little boy, that
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when I'm comfortable, something has to be uprooted, something has
to be blown up, because that's the way it's been.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
And so that's what I would do.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
I see that with a lot of people, and I
hear that with a lot of people. And why do
you think that is.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Well, that's a good question.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Let me let me let me give you a lot.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I don't know you well enough to know if this
is true, but I have watched people. They do it
in their personal relationships, men who will do it with
with women, and women who'll do it with men. And
they don't believe that they're supposed to have good things.
Sometimes it's a lack of belief that they can have
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stability they're not supposed to because they didn't have it
when they were younger. And the other one is some people,
just like warriors, have come back for war to tell
me that part of their PTSD is they missed the
actual war, They missed the camaraderie, they missed the adrenaline,
they missed they felt alive. I've had professional athletes tell
me when you leave the sporting world, you can't get
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that drug back, and it's it's hard because that adrenaline
was a feeling that you can't replace. And so it's
very frustrating with some people when they retire from their
from their sales job, and they were good at sales
and they enjoyed being out.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
So one of those is the opposite. I kind of
went a little.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Long here, Kevin, but one is you don't believe you
deserve good things, and so you got to break it
up because you know that keeps it from breaking without
you now you're choosing to break it. The other one
is the adrenaline rush of everything going wrong for people
who had broken childhoods.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Does either of those apply to you.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Well, I think both apply to me in the sense
that you know, with that pattern developing as a little kid,
then every time I was comfortable and I.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Felt life was good, I would get uprooted.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Things had to be moved.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
So yes, at some point it was probably instilled in
me in my own conscious that you know, I'm not
supposed to have a good formal life.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Everybody needs to be woke.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I just did Freke for less woke. Indeed, you're up first, why, sweetheart?
Speaker 6 (08:32):
Hi Michael. I wanted to let you know that I'm
a Christian Republican and I will be voting Trump all
the way down the ticket except for two I don't
know if they're going to be on my ticket, but
I would not vote for John Cornyan or for Dan Crenshaw.
But I wanted to let you know that this illegal
immigration is so important to me because that's the affected
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three of my immediate family members. My brother Scottie had again,
he's come into his house and still about one hundred
thousand dollars worth of items. My middle child, who lives
in Cyprus, Norchester. Her immediate backdoor neighbor had heard the
north outside. He opened the door and an illegal shot
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him five times and killed him. He was found three
days later. And then with me. I love an immaculate garage,
and I was cleaning my garage and this man, an illegal,
big guy. I'm like, I'm one fifteen, athletic, healthy, and
he's probably like.
Speaker 7 (09:35):
Two point fifty.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
And he comes walking up my driveway and he's like, man,
your tuppy areas are buried too deep. They're going to die.
I'm like, okay. So he continues walking and I'm like, sir,
I've got this, and he grabs me and by my
clothes and shoves his mouth. He sung into my mouth.
I starts screaming, get thrown on the floor. He grabs
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me again, then does it again, and I immediately grabbed
this massive pot. And when I turned around and my dog,
my hunter pomp dog, was going nuts inside the house
and I grabbed it. And when I grabbed it, I
just threw it into his arms and he was covered
with all these crosses around his neck. And I got
away with my life so the border is the most
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important thing to me. And I sent out text to
as many people on email saying, look, if you don't
want to vote for Trump, but this is a reason
why I hope you don't vote for Kamala. Because I
did not leave my house for three months, my eife
will never be the same. I'm terrified to, you know,
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sometimes be at home alone. But you know, I wrapped
my head around it and just figured it out. I've
got to continue living my life. But I will be
voting Republicans.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Corey, you're on the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 8 (10:54):
I'm voting for Trump and Ted Cruz because I'm one
year away from retiring after twenty two years in the military,
and I don't want to retire into chaos and economic stackflation.
I have two beautiful grandchildren.
Speaker 9 (11:09):
And I want them to be able to grow.
Speaker 8 (11:10):
Up in the country that I got to grow up
in and experience all the joy and wonder that I
got to experience going up in the best country in
the world.
Speaker 9 (11:18):
And plus I'm worried about our.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
Military because they're being run by a bunch of woke
politicians and a bunch of lobbyists from the corporations, and
our military is slowly falling apart. We don't have any
more warriors that run it.
Speaker 9 (11:32):
That's why I'm voting for Republicans.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Mike, you're on the Michael Berry Show. Go ahead, yeah,
Michael will listen.
Speaker 9 (11:42):
A long time listener, first time caller. I'm voting for Trump.
I'm Republican all the way down the ticket. I love
jod Cruise, I love Donald Trump. The one thing is
Ramala gets in there. I'm two years away from retired
to myself, I'm afraid I'm not gonna have it. She's
gonna tax my retirement to this. I won't have anything
left to retire own. So I'm gonna go vote early,
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and I'm taking ten people in my neighborhood with me.
I had to go vote. It's bear and barbecue.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Mines, Jim Europe, sir, go ahead, thank you.
Speaker 7 (12:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (12:19):
I'm voting for Donald J.
Speaker 11 (12:21):
Trump because we need a commander in chiefness how to
deal with the people who want to do us harm.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Isn't that amazing? Isn't it amazing that we're actually to
the point that we know that there are people in
our government who will allow harm to be done to
our nation.
Speaker 12 (12:47):
It's unfathomable to me that we could be at that
point that we have witnessed this, that we have tolerated this.
And I hope you will vote all the way down
the ballot, not just for Donald Trump, because it's.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Going to matter every election, all the way down to
the bottom.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Jonathan, you're on the Michael Berry Show. Go ahead, sir.
Speaker 13 (13:13):
I'm voting for Trump because they've run that man through
the ringer for way more than he should have ever
been run through.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
The ring and he speaks his mind. He speaks well,
we think, and they wanted that wanted out. Bruce. You're
on the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 13 (13:26):
Go ahead, sir, him Michael, I'm voting Republican for many reasons,
but one is to stop the weaponization of this governmally
gets into against its own citizens.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Well that's a good one, well said. And you're old
Michael Berry show, go aheads weetart.
Speaker 14 (13:44):
I am voting for Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I'm like you.
Speaker 14 (13:47):
I think people are absolutely insane on this abortion take
care for nothing else. In those commercials that they run
against Cruce are appalling. Abortion is a violent act, con
found and I hope to God here and Trump when
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thank you very much for covering this ron.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
You're on the Michael Berry Show. Go ahead, sir.
Speaker 10 (14:15):
Hey, we've talked before, my friend. But I'm a Cold
War veteran. I joined the Army in nineteen eighty served
to eighty four, and during that timeframe, I spent a
lot of time over in the Folder Gap area, and
I spent those four years and the time I was there.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Studying the difference between.
Speaker 10 (14:34):
The Communist manifesto on our US Constitution, and so my
reasoning for voting for Trump is more about preserving our
constitution and its rights to go with it and not
allowing communism to take over, because I spent those four
years seeing what communism does and what it can do,
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and now I'm seeing people who are.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Avowed died in the role call marks.
Speaker 10 (15:01):
Communists trying to attain the pinnacle of our government.
Speaker 9 (15:05):
Not only that those same.
Speaker 10 (15:07):
Backside individuals have permeated are what we're going to call
our deep state, and that disgusts me to no end,
especially after I spent all those years watching what can
happen to people who lived in those countries over there
in the Eastern Bloc. It is beyond my comprehension that
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we have accepted communism as a normality, and that socialism
is just some benign creature to stand on its own.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
And Les Limbaugh used to say this.
Speaker 10 (15:40):
A lot about this abortion issue, about the less almost
religion like appeal to government, that abortion is their sacrament,
and adherence to their communistic rule is their day to
day practica and their religion a minute it is. I'm
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a person that could have been easily the victim of
an abortion in nineteen fifty nine when my mother got
pregnant with me, because my own grandfather tried to have
me aborted. And so, yeah, abortion is a big issue
for me. And I can tell you that I would
not be here, and neither would a lot of other
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good things in my life that I've been able to
participate in my sixty five years had he had his
way and my mother not been so strong at fourteen
or fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Old, Tony, go ahead, sir, for.
Speaker 10 (16:36):
Donald Trump and every Republican on the ballot.
Speaker 9 (16:39):
Because I'm not a duller.
Speaker 15 (16:41):
Joe Biden became mentally impaired with Michael Berry.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Tamala was born that way, Donnie Old Michael Berry short,
go ahead, sir.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
I'm voting for Donald Trump. Fed Grease and Morgan Latreille.
Why yeah, I'll think what's going on. I mean, it's
not part of I don't think a rocket scientist figure
all this out what's going on in this world today.
And he even feels safe from your own and I
live in Montgomery County and.
Speaker 9 (17:04):
Starting to show up all of these ill legals, and so.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Phil your only Michael Berry show go ahead, Hey man.
Speaker 10 (17:09):
I vote for Trump, definitely, for Cruise and all Republicans
because I'm tired of unelected bureaucrat.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Running this country.
Speaker 10 (17:16):
If Trump is president, Trump's going to be running this country.
Speaker 15 (17:19):
And he's going to take care of the business there.
Speaker 10 (17:21):
Of course we have seen him take care of and
all that you just mentioned right as I was listening
the same thing as well.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I agree, but he's got to have the House, and
he's got to have the Senate.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Sandra or Sandra, I am.
Speaker 16 (17:32):
Voting for Trump, and I'm voting read all the way
down the ticket, even school board, if I can figure
out who's got those values. And I am voting read
because of my kids and my youngest is in the
military overseas, and I am terrified of what's going on
in our country and abroad, and I would have never
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encouraged my daughter to go into the military under this administration.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Terry, you're up.
Speaker 15 (17:58):
Go ahead, Yes, Michael, voting for Donald Trump and Ted Cruz.
And because we three took a note to defend the Constitution,
and so far as I see, we're the only three
that have stood up and under.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
That oath, Terry, tell me more, all right, sir.
Speaker 15 (18:13):
We I mean everybody else that's on these tickets are Democrats,
and I have yet to see a Democrats stand up
and honor of the oath that they took when they're
sworeing in the office.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
In fact, it is on the opposite.
Speaker 15 (18:26):
I think there is more intent on destroying and tearing
it up than they are to preserve it.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Dennis, you're on to Michael Berry's show. Go ahead.
Speaker 9 (18:34):
I am voting for Trump with red ticket all the
way down.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Wine.
Speaker 11 (18:39):
I think the Democratic Party is ungodly, and I think
Trump is going to be the guy that gets.
Speaker 9 (18:46):
Us back on track.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Fair enough, let's go to Josh. You on to Michael
berry Show. How old are you? Josh?
Speaker 9 (18:53):
I'm forty four, Mike love a show.
Speaker 15 (18:56):
Thanks for having me, all right, go ahead, I'm voting
for Trump and Cruse because they stay for freedom.
Speaker 9 (19:03):
Multiple of the reasons I'm voting for them.
Speaker 11 (19:05):
But I work on a plant kind of work a
lot of overtime, so I'm excited about the no taxes
on overtimes.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Melanie, you're on Michael Berry show, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Michael.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
The reason I'm voting for Trump is we have to
defend our allies from terrorist attacks. The fact that we're
not doing as much as we could be with Israel
and Hamas is discussing our ships are being fired upon
and yet we can't retaliate and fire back.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Do you want to do more in the region?
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Yes, yes, I think we need to defend Israel as
they are our biggest ally in the region.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Okay, what is defending Israel? How far are you willing
to go? Votes on the.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Ground, boots on the ground, if we have to wake
up this, You're only.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Michael Berry show go ahead.
Speaker 11 (19:46):
I'm voting for Trump and I'm voting for Republicans all
the way down the ballot.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
It's too important to I mean, I just don't.
Speaker 11 (19:56):
See how anybody that pays attention to anything can vote
for a Democrat and they're going to attack him. They
dehumanize him, they're going to attack us. You know these
six o'clock in the morning where the FBI kicks in
people's doors just because they disagree with their politics. They've
weaponized the FBI, They've weaponized the IRS. I mean, they've
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weaponized every government agency. The Democrats want to surrender our
sovereignty to globalism, I mean, to the wf to NATO.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
It's just this is too important.
Speaker 11 (20:30):
And if you have a problem with a Republican, then
primary the next time around. But we can't take the
chance on the Democrats having the House and the Senate
trying to impeach Trump, trying to stop him at every turn.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I mean, he has to be able to.
Speaker 11 (20:46):
Have people that will work with him and let him
get We've got to fix the problems with this country,
and that's not going to happen if the Democrats have
thrown up roadblocks every time.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
He tries to do anything.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
All that is true where people go wrong. If you're wondering,
is they'll watch Fox News all day and Fox News
will have the national story on it, so they're caught
up in you know, Gray's Anatomy.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
And Fox News.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
They know the storyline, they got the characters, they know
what season we're in, and they know they've picked their team,
which is Trump. They don't want Trump to win because
that's their team, but they don't Nobody tells them the
Senate races are important for the congressional races, and so
they don't have any interest for that because that's not
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the storyline. That wasn't written into the script of the
ongoing novella that they watch every night. All right, let's
go to Antonio because we haven't had any his fanis
today that I.
Speaker 17 (21:47):
Know of, did we ever? It's his fanic, it's his
Panic one. Today's the last day. How long is that, Antonio?
You go ahead while he's finding that.
Speaker 18 (22:01):
I'm voting a Republican state ticket. I cannot take anymore
from the Democrats. Inflation, the millions of people coming in
that should not be here, competing for housing jobs, and
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affecting everyone, especially the black and brown people, the very
people who most of them vote for Democrats.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Antonio, great call Ramone put in so much effort, and
today is the last day. Hispanic Heritage Month runs September
fifteenth to October fifteen. If I think the most checked
up thing I've ever seen. Right, But since Ramone put In.
I don't know what made me think of that. We
were going to go the whole month and have missed it.
Today's the last day, so here we are.
Speaker 19 (23:08):
O la megoes, it's me your favorite cultural tour guide
for Hispanic Heritage.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Month, Ramon Robliz.
Speaker 19 (23:15):
I'm here to celebrate all the amazing things our Hispanic
brothers and sisters have done for America.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I mean, who else could have given us.
Speaker 19 (23:22):
Both Taco Tuesday and spicy Salca at the same time.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
That's a national treasure right there.
Speaker 19 (23:30):
I mean, where would the United States be without Hispanic influence?
Probably still eating flavorless casserole and wondering what cilantro is.
Thanks to Hispanic heritage, I now know there's a spice
rack that extends beyond salt and pepper, mind blown. And
the music.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Let's talk about the music. Who doesn't love a good Regotob.
Speaker 19 (23:52):
I may not understand half the lyrics, but I can
sure pretend I do while embarrassing myself at every family wedding.
This posito may have and slow, but my dance moves
were even slower.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
This but see he after. I'm not here just to
talk about food and music. No, no, no.
Speaker 19 (24:08):
Hispanic culture has given us so much more Like Oh,
Sophia Vergara, He's basically the reason I binge watched TV.
Oh and Danny Trejo the only man who could terrify
me and sell me a taco at the same time.
Now that's serious multitasking. And let's not forget about history.
I heard somewhere that some guy named Sezar Chabez fought
for workers rights.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I think it involves grapes. Anyway, I've never felt more
connected to produce.
Speaker 19 (24:31):
So to all you great pickers out there, Gracia.
Speaker 14 (24:35):
Gone and today everyone's thinking they could actually live the
American truth.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
The Michael Barry Show.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Lo Loos max is More was talking about the internal
polling of both campaigns, Harris and Trump, and the relationships
he has and what they're telling him about their own
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internal polls. Now, I want to explain internal polls to
you versus polling.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
First of all, this is.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Something that most people don't know, internal polls. I'm sorry
the polls that you see on CNN, Fox and all
that those polls are mostly created to have content. I
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owned a concert venue called the RCC, so every Friday
and Saturday night I had to put something on the
stage that could be Marshall Tucker Band and Charlie Daniels,
it was Willie Nelson or Charlie Pride and Kenny Rogers
Last Show. There's a lot of things like that, but
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you run out of artists. So sometimes we had midget wrestling,
a whole lot of fun. Sometimes we had Ted kruse Evan's.
You got to have things to draw people in when
you're a twenty four hour cable news network. When that's
what you are, you've got to find things to keep
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these people entertained. Never forget whether you're watching Fox, MSNBC, CNN.
They are in the entertainment business. That doesn't mean that
entertainment cannot enrich your life.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Or that it's not true. I don't mean to say
that at all. It does mean to.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Say that sometimes they put things out there that are
not quite as scientifically accurate, or the protocols are not followed.
But in their internal in their internals, they need to
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know where they are, really where they are. So they
asked question and they don't release those numbers unless they
were designed to be released. So we're going to go
to break with Mark Halpern talking about how much trouble
Kamala Harris is in.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Because I like to end on a high note, I.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Want to bring that level of transparency to my reporting
this week, which has gotten some attention in some quarters.
I'm trying to describe what's happening in the race. I'm
not rooting for Trump or Harris. I'm rooting for transparency,
for understanding, and I'm a competitive reporter. I'm trying to
tell people ahead of others what's going on. Okay, what's
going on is what I know is going on is
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not based on partisanship or favor It's based on sources
in both sides. I'm not saying I'm the only reporter
in America with reporters in both parties, but it's increasingly rare.
And the benefit of having sources in both parties is
the cross checking is super valuable. Right If a really valuable,
well known to me Republican source and a really valuable,
well positioned, well known to me Democratic source are saying
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the same thing about what they're seeing in the private polling,
that's really valuable. It's more valuable than just having it
from one, for sure, and it gives me a greater
sense of confidence of what I feel comfortable bringing to you.
There's no doubt in my mind that the polling as
I've characterized it this week is accurate, that right now
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Trump would win, and that the lumbers are moving in
his direction, and that her problems in each individual state
with different demographic groups are pronounced, and she'll either need
to fix she'll need to fix with some kind of
combination of tactical outreach to blackmails or union workers, whatever
it is, and to a macro solution like the overwhelming
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effectiveness of the NASSA or Bipartisan Council advisors. I can't
stop joking about it because I just find it so ridiculous.
Now as I talked to folks about the race, I'm
not locking in.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
I'm not saying well.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Since I reported that the polls were going and heard
her in his direction, President Trump's direction, that that's it,
and then I'll stick with that the rest of the way.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
If it changes, it'll change.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
When I reported that President Biden was planning to leave
the race as early as the coming weekend, I also
reported that he did not implan to endorse Kamala Harris.
The reason I did was because I had it really
well sourced that he didn't from the time I reported
that to the time on Sunday when he got out
of the race, and then shortly thereafter endorser. My reporting
is and I said this, but it's been ignored by
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my critics.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
I said.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
He came under enormous pressure when I reported that he
wasn't gonna endorser, from a lot of people, including very
influential women close to the Vice president, who said, you've
got to endorser. It'll look horrible if you don't. And
he changed his mind. So there was no open convention
as I reported there was going to be, because things change.
In this case, they changed, I think largely because of
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what I reported. But my point in telling you that
story decides to see if I can shut up all
the criticism of that element of my scoop is, I
will change and the story can change. All I can
do is tell you, in a single moment what's going
on based on my reporting. So the day I talked
to a Republican polster, who again is not a Charlatan,
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He's a real polster. It's someone I've worked with for decades.
I trust him. He's never lied to me, to my knowledge,
and he I can't tell you the specifics yet, but
he told me that one state that the Harris campaign
is very keen on winning up to seven. He said,
I know that state really well. I can't tell you how,
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but trust me, he knows that state really well. And
he said she's not winning that state. Like, forget any
public or private pool you see now. Does I mean
he's right that she's definitely not going to win the state. No,
But I have confidence in person because I know his
history with the state.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
I know how well he knows the state is upholster.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
And I'll say that factors into my view when I
think about her electoral college patents and many of her
ele college paths include that state. Not all of them,
but many of them do. And I say, okay, I
factor that in so and I'm thinking about how likely
is she to get two hudred and seventy electoral votes
with that state today? I don't think it's very likely.
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I'll do more reporting on it. I think the chances
that person is wrong about that state are deminimous, but
they're not zero. And I'll keep reporting on it. And
that is what I do. Okay, I don't follow up
a Trump communications director and say, spin me on your polls,
tell me how great Trump's doing.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
And I don't just take one side word for it.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
If I do, if one side tells me something, I'll
say it's that side. I won't money it up. Okay,
So that where I believe the race stands tonight. Confidence
in mar Lago, insert in Wilmington, and greater concern amongst
Democratic collected officials do I hear from daily asking me
what I know?
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Because they know I know.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Some stuff and telling me explicitly and through their questions
they are worried. Okay, doesn't mean she won't win, but
that's how we head into the weekend. Okay, Democrats are
worried about where things stand. And you see in her
media strategy. Often you'll see my colleagues say, well, she's
doing interviews. That much mean they're panding or Frum's doing
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a town hall with women. He must be concerned about women.
Sometimes it's true and sometimes it's not. It doesn't mean
just because they're trying to inspire constituency or win over undecideds,
it doesn't mean they're panicked.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
It doesn't mean they think they're doomed.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
They're doing what they're doing to try to win