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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. The
Michael Very Show is on the air. Our roving reporter
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Thornton Finch with his thoughts on the debate.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Senator Ted Cruz the Master Debate and Colin Allread his
wind bag. When vain Democratic opponent squared off in what
could only be described as a political showdown, Cruise painted
all Red as someone who'd rather play phone a friend
than stand up for Texas values, abortion, transgender sports, the
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border wall. Cruise was like, I'm building a wall and
all Red's over there calling it racist until he decides
it's his campaign photo op. Colin already was a chameleon
on a kaleidoscope. His rhetoric looked nothing like his record,
and Cruise was on him like Hunter Biden on a
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mound of Peruvian snow. Already tried to hit back, talking
about Cruise's CanCon trip like it's the Gettysburg Address of
political missteps. But folks, Cruise turned that into a badge
of honor, reminding us all that even senators need a
vacation from the nonsense in Washington and the cherry on top.
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Cruse mocking all Red for his stance on boys and girls' sports.
Here comes there's all read ladies and gentlemen, the linebacker
turned politician who apparently can't tell the difference between a
football field and a girl's locker room. So there you
have it, folks, This debate was a beatdown. Colin Allred
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brought a red cape and blindfold to a bullfight, and
Ted Cruz was huffing, snorting and mauling his way to
a commanding victory. I'm Thornton Finch reporting for the Michael
Barry Show.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
So here's what's going on in the local governmental entities,
which is why your taxes are increasing, Your streets are busted,
and things are so bad. People are leaving these communities
and they'll never come back. So in the City of Houston,
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you've got a contractor with just two months of experience
operating out of an apartment, hand it over a six
hundred thousand dollars park renovation project in the third ward.
He was given another one hundred and twenty thousand dollars
after his project went over budget and the end result
empty concrete pads with screws attached to nothing, No park benches,
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no tables, nothing. The CEO of the Houston Housing Authority.
David Northern signed the contract and he walks out of
the interview with Amy Davis. This guy Northern, this kind
Northern has got so many scams going at the Houston
Housing Authority. And that's why Silvester Turner and Rodney Ellis
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renewed his contract, gave him five years before Whitmyer could
take office, so that Whitmyer wouldn't be able to fire him.
These aren't mistakes they're making. This is all by design.
Credit to Amy Davis at KPRC TV for the story.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Larry Grisbye has lived here at Cuney Homes eight years.
It's the city's oldest public housing development, opened in nineteen
forty three. But Larry, like other people who live in
this third Ward neighborhood, was looking forward to some promised
upgrades from the Houston Housing Authority.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
They post have been two benches here. It pould have
been a bench hemp and a bench right there, and
it post have been a table right there.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
But all that's here are these concrete pads with screws
attached to nothing. KPRC two obtain these renderings of what
the landscape improvement project connecting Cuney Homes to the Columbia
Tap Trail was supposed to look like the estimated cost
six hundred forty three thousand, five hundred dollars. The Houston
Housing Authority actually paid contractors more than seven hundred and
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sixty six thousand dollars. That's one hundred and twenty three
thousand bucks over budget. And this is what the people
at Quney Homes got. They were supposed to come back
and add more.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Yeah, they posed to come back and put the.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Table and the other bent.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
What happened, I don't know, yea.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I didn't know. I don't know. They never came back.
They never said nothing.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
In our search for Grisbee's benches and this chess table
and your money, we knocked on doors searching for the
contractors paid for this work. Lamntree Woods owns Elite Project Managers.
He registered the company with the state on January ninth
and signed this contract with the Houston Housing Authority just
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two months later, on March fourth. The registered address for
his business took us to this humble apartment complex. We
left the business card, but he never called us back.
Our next stop was to the Houston Housing Authority to
find the other man. Who signed this deal? Houston Housing
Authority CEO David Northerners. Can you tell us how you
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know Lamntre Woods and how he was chosen?
Speaker 6 (05:54):
He's one of the contractors there. I don't know him personally.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
You don't know him personally. And did you know that
his business was just formed two months before he got
that contract?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
No, we will only here to discuss the fifty million
dollars grand. If you have any questions on more than
every to take them and then we can respond to that.
Hold on, hold on, did you know that this is
a fraud and you're part of it?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
No, no, no, we're supposed to only talk about this
thing over here. We can't talk about this fraud. This
is your local government, folks. It is systemic. It is
top to bottom fraud. It is fraud on top of
fraud on top of fraud. It's a handful of characters
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in this. Fore, bastard Lamnentree, whatever his name is, he's
just the bag man. Hey, Uh, we don't pay you
a bunch of money. You go, uh put some put
some park benches out. He don't know how to do that.
He has no clue. He didn't put any park benches.
The next the next story you're gonna hear about is
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a guy that got these air conditioning contracts to put
in the public housing units and they don't know what
they're doing. Literally, it is obvious they've never put a
window unit in an apartment or a house ever before.
I wish you could see the video. You would laugh.
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Your twelve year old kid could have done a better job.
And they just keep paying them. Of course they're not
getting the money. They're getting a little money. The real
story is who we all know is getting the real
money for the who put this whole scheme together. This
ain't Lemon Tree's fault anyway.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Finish up cell phone number, and I have plenty more questions.
I just think, I mean, can you at all address those?
You're the director. Northern did agree to meet with me
off camera days later, but he had few answers. He
said he didn't know this project was incomplete. These contracts
we've obtained show all work was to conclude on or
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before April first. HJA has paid Elite all of the
money under its contract and then some back at Cuney Holmes.
Grisbee is still missing the chess table, solar lights, and benches.
Documents show Elite project managers asked for another extension until
May seventh, and an extra seventeen five hundred dollars to
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order the items. That was five months ago. We finally
got in touch with the La Monree Woods by phone
this week. He says he's been in touch with someone
at the Housing Authority every week, but he wouldn't say
who it is he's speaking to. He also wouldn't say
why the chess table, the benches and the correct lighting
haven't been installed here months after we paid for them.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I tell Care a lot of people, they say your money.
Somebody ran off with the money. I tell Care a loader.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
To hear that.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
You know, thousands of dollars have been spent for work
that wasn't done. He's legoneree the Michael Berry Show, simple man.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Maybe I'm the place to pay you love me all
the time.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Maybe I'm afraid. Okay, So you know that the Houston
Housing Authority CEO David Northern signed off on a six
hundred and forty three thousand dollars park renovation in the
third ward where they just put down some concrete slabs
and never put any benches or anything with it. Then
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they added another one hundred twenty thousand dollars after the
project went over budget. Let me ask you a question, folks.
The poor guy who's getting paid to put these park
benches in and clearly doesn't know how to do it, Lamntree.
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Would you think Lamontree got this deal? When David Northern
says he doesn't know who Lemon Tree would is, I
think that's the only thing he's said this week that's true,
that's honest. He didn't give this contract to Lamontree. He
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gave this contract to somebody whose name you'd know, and
some other people whose name some of you would know,
are in on this deal. Leamntree was just a guy
they told to go do the work and he'd get
a little money, and he's actually doing the best he
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can without any knowledge of how to do any of this.
And if Amy Davis at KPRCTV didn't do this story,
do you realize this is going on all over? Remember
the water mains that were busted. When they tracked down
the guy who was supposed to be fixing them, he
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didn't even have a company. They knocked on the door
and he came to the door. I don't know what
y'all talk about. You got the contract at my sister.
You remember that that was the guy who was supposed
to be fixing the water mains that were busted all
over town while you were getting a fine if you
didn't fix a water line break in your property. The
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city's water lines were busted and you were paying for
it thousands of dollars. And the woman who eventually was
convicted had given all the contracts to her brothers and
sisters who had no experience doing any of this. And
so Estra Turner did not want an outside criminal investigation
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of this. Why what's he got to hide? Surely he
wasn't involved in any of this. So the next story
also the Houston Housing Authority a deal to install AC
units at three public houses projects. It went more than
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three million dollars over budget. Originally they were going to
install sixteen hundred window units for two point three million dollars,
but it ended up being five point four million dollars.
And it turns out none of the people knew how
to do it. It ain't that hard to install a
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window unit. Again, these poor dumbasses that are out there
trying to figure out how to put a window unit
in They didn't win this contract. These contracts aren't given
to La Mantree and his ilk. These contracts are given
within the four walls of these buildings by the same
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little cabal that's getting rich over all the graft and corruption.
Here's the story.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
The Houston Housing Authority set out to install sixteen hundred
and fifteen windows and they budgeted two point three million
dollars for this project. When it was all said and done,
you and I paid more than five point four million dollars.
And Sophia. If this project sounds familiar to you, it's
because you interviewed HHA President and CEO David Northern right
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here in August of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Were you able to get this type of funding? Well,
departner House of Urban Development provides funding yearly to all
housing authorities called capital funds, and so we looked at
this as an opportunity.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
So now about fourteen months later, we are investigating why
that heat relief project cost you millions more dollars than
planned and who got the bulk of that money. But
this time around, David Northern is not talking. The hum
of this new window unit sounds like relief to Cuney
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Holmes resident Larry Grisby.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Do you think it's better?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
So? Yeah, yeah, But what we heard about the contracts
to install these acs in Houston's biggest and oldest housing
projects sounded troublesome. So we requested every contract. More than
twenty two companies hired to do the work. Yeah, I
just want to talk to you about this is public funds.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Just wanted to talk to you about the.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Work that eat camera that I brought you in.
Speaker 7 (14:22):
Get rid of the.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Camera in you old midson. Did you know that his
business was just warmed two months before he got that contract.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
No, we were only here to discuss fifty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Grand HHA President and CEO David Northern wouldn't talk to
us on camera, but in a closed door meeting he
told me the Housing Authority decided to split the bid
twenty two different ways to give opportunities to small minority
women in black owned businesses that wouldn't otherwise get a
shot at getting a government contract. It would be difficult
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to get a contract if he didn't even own a business.
That's the case of Lamententre Woods. We introduced you to
him last week when we showed you the incomplete, over
budget Cuney Holmes Pocket Park project he managed. How are
you good? So you signed up to speak? I mean
we would like to again. I offer you an opportunity
to talk to us. Woods declined to speak with us,
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but spoke instead to the Housing Authority Board at this meeting.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
I have not know would I ever say any fronts
from any of my clients and I get the job done.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
But before the pocket Park, Woods was installing AC's for
this project. Digging through contracts, we discovered he was paid
seventy five dollars an hour as a project manager for
Impact Commercial Construction at Irbenton Village. About four months later,
he started Elite Project Managers and got an emergency contract
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to take out dozens of those window units that were
incorrectly installed and then reinstall them. Because this was classified
as an emergency, there was no bid and Woods walked
away with more than one point three million dollars. But
it's not just the money you paid for work, it's
also the money you paid for no work. These requests
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for payment and checks reveal the Houston Housing Authority paid
out more than one hundred and twenty eight thousand dollars
for weather delays, material shortages, and days when residents wouldn't
let contractors inside to install those acs. You paid them
by the hour, sometimes for eight hours, to do nothing.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
There's your government. That's just the housing authority. That's just
one little project, five point four million dollars to install
air conditioning units for public housing. You know, I know,
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you know that Lamentree didn't keep this money. They gave
him a little bit, and they gave him a little
more to keep his mouth shut. Because that's how this
game works. Where do you think that money went? You
already know, you already know. Now you want to know
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why these people work so hard to get elected? People
ask me all the time, how come somebody works so
hard to get elected to a job that only pays
one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year. Hell, they're
spending millions a year, millions of per campaign on a
job that pays one hundred and fifty. Sweetheart, that job
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doesn't pay one hundred and fifty. That job pays so
many million dollars you would not believe it. Metro Metro's
not about moving people here and there. The light rail
that wasn't about being a cutting edge city with a
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great technology. There's money in the surveying, there's money in
the land acquisition, there's money in the design. These people
sit around. I don't know how else to say this.
These people sit around in a room and they go,
all right, where's ten twenty thirty million bucks we can
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look at all right, Metro's got some over here. Okay,
the Housing Authority, let's look through all their pro Oh
here's one. We can do emergency air condition and they'll
do a press conference emergency air conditions when it doesn't
steal it all? Do you believe Americans are better off
than they were four years ago? The Laco Barrier.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
So I was raised as a middle class kid.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
It would be the best my life.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I've been dream.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
The Houston Housing Authorities Board of Commissioners, they have voted
to bring in an independent investigator. Oh we're what are
you gonna learn that you didn't already know? You know,
how these things work works at Metro, Housing Authority, every
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one of these organizations. I think Metro's making some improvements,
but hell, it happens at Houston City Hall. You've got
the professional staffers, and then you've got these outside interests.
These guys that are real smart at stealing public money.
And by the way, they contribute to all the winning candidates.
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If they're not with the winning candidate before the election, then,
as Joe B used to say, the late train still
arrives at the same destination. They bring a check. After
you're elected, there you go. You're supposed to do what
they tell you to do. Because nobody contributes to campaigns
except for the insiders. That's why it's very hard to
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win as an outsider, because the average citizen that wants
good government doesn't want to spend one penny contributing to it.
The law firms that get the bond deals, and the
engineering firms and surveying firms, and all the firms that
get the deals, they contribute mightily to the campaigns. And
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what they do is they line up behind a candidate
so that candidate's got all the money, and then they
run all the ads. And then you say to your candidate, hey, man,
how come here on TV? Your opponent's on TV. You
gotta get on TV, man, And he's just because I
don't have any money and he's got all the money.
That's how this works, and it always has worked. So
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the housing Authority Board of Commissioners. See these commissioners, they
don't ask any questions. They just show up, vote and
all go to a nice lunch and you go look
at their resumes. They're all on all the other boards
and have been school boards, public education boards. They all
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interconnect with about ten people whose names you know. Well,
they're going to hire an independent investigator to find out
how they approved millions of dollars of contracts that never
got performed. And at one point, windy units were put
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into public housing unit windows and they had to pay
to have them taken out because they weren't installed properly. Oh,
but they're getting serious. They've hired an independent consultant to
evaluate the work of the President and CEO of the HHA,
David Northern. We believe you, Board of Commissioners. We think
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you're looking out for what's best for our interests as taxpayers.
Keep up the great work. This story from ABC thirteen
the Venezuelan gang trend de Aragua, Well, who took over
the apartments in Aurora, Colorado. Well, one of their little
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turd members was trying to recruit middle school students to
join a theft ring. Turns out he's got a criminal record,
and it turns out he had been freed on yet
another PR bond. A PR bond is a personal recognizance bond.
That's where you go, hey, we're gonna let you out
and it's not going to cost you a penny and
nobody's gonna get in trouble if you don't show back up.
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But you got a pinky swear. You swear you'll pinky.
But hey, what's the Spanish word for pinky. We're trying
to get him to Pinkys where he'll show back up again.
He stole four thousand dollars worth of goods from Houston's
from Sacks Fifth Avenue. He was also arrested in Arizona
for organized retail theft. Theft. Seems like a real nice guy.
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Of course, when we arrest him, you'd want to put
him back on the streets because I doubt he's ever
going to kill anybody or do anything. Seriously, these guys
don't escalate from here, oh never.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
One hundred and eighty pairs of women's underwear, That's what
police say Jorgenny's robertson Kova and another man were after
when they raided the victorious secret store at Willowbrook Mall
back in April and now, Texas DPS agents say the
alleged leader of the Two Men Penny gang was a
member of the infamous Trend of Rogua Gang TDA for short.
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They're based in Venezuela, Cova's home country. On Coba's arms,
DPS agents say non TDA tattoos.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
Trend de Ragua has been characterized as MS thirteen on steroids.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
Just last month, Governor Greg Abbott signed a proclamation declaring
the gang a foreign terrorist organization.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
TDA is notorious for their brutal violence and murder and
their kidnapping.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
Texas DPS has launched a statewide crackdown on TDA members
and last week arrested Koba on a misdemeanor thing warrant
out of Pearland. But that's just the tip of the iceberg.
We've learned. He was previously arrested for organized retail theft
in at least two states. In July twenty twenty three,
he's accused of stealing almost four thousand dollars worth of
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goods from the Houston Sacks and in April this year
at panny theft at the Willowbroog, Victoria secret a heist
worth thirty four hundred dollars, and he's accused of going
back again two weeks later, this time with a juvenile accomplice,
a Pasadena police officer telling investigators she'd seen cover before
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in a school pickup line where those Houston theft cases
got dismissed because April twenty eighth, he was arrested in Gilbert, Arizona,
and police there. What an extra diem all police will
tell us about that arrest is that it was for
organized retail theft. It's unclear if high dollar theft is
part of trend of Agua's usual operations.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
The original limit to what those crimina activities are. It
is all about.
Speaker 7 (24:58):
Profit and according to d COVID, shouldn't even be in
the country. We've been reaching out to ICE for almost
a week asking how he was able to enter and
if their agents hadn't counted him in the past. They
haven't responded to any of those questions.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
You or somebody you know is going to be a
victim of a criminal who is an illegal alien. You
or somebody you know, it's going to happen now. That
should be the only thing we vote on when the
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polls opened in five days. Not a hypothetical abortion by
somebody you don't know in the future who was raped
and got pregnant. Well, if they get raped and they're
pregnious by an illegal alien, how about we close the
border and vote Republican. Get caught up in the rhetoric
the Michael Very Show.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I'm a knucklehead at times.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Yeah, I'm telling me what you want.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
You really really won, really really wound.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Tell me what you really really want.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
I want, really really want.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
If you want not here.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
Yid Lord Mercy, I'm so stove up today. I know
if I could see them, there would be bruises all
over my body. Honey, tell them what had happened last night?
Me and why too?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Said?
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Some of our friends was walking right down in the
midttle sixteenth street down here, I don't know why we
had got turned around, and who pulls up with this
big old Levisian policewoman put them red and blue lights.
Honey on she drawed down on us, started asking us
all these questions. What was it she had asked? She
came asking father street name, and I told her, Ma Tusa,
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stay on jarn Street cause I stayed down here on
MLK Ooh, she pulled out the pepper's bread in She said,
what is y'all street names? I said, I stay on
twenty five fifteen MLK Bulevard. Guatusa stayed on A three
hundred blocks sometimes down here on John Street. Well, that
just infuriated this woman. She blast us with that Cajun
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spice pepper spray all up our nose. She had a
taser gun in each hand and knocked us down. Ye,
we looked like a couple of damn flounders out there
in the middle of the road, just popping around, just popping.
And she kept them voted, just this is this, They said,
that's good for your heart. Finally somebody hollered out and
she want to know what names y'all let's knowed by.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
On the street.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
Ah, why she didn't just ask that. I told her
where Watusa go by Cutworm, and my secret service code
name is Biscuit. But y'all not supposed to put that
on now. And she said, yes, all this have to
be fired in case y'all get on the forty eight hours.
So we got it all straightened out and we made
friends and everything. She ended up giving us a police
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escort back to our house. Wasn't that nice, huck? And
they say the police is no good.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Some of them is real nice.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
The woman was looking at my presences that show damn
imagination for daddy's been head.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
So let me tell you about a Democrat judge in
Harris County. Her name is Kelly Johnson. So she is
not able to serve right now. She has been ruled
unfit to be around other human beings or she might
hurt somebody or herself. So she's not able to be
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on the bench until at least February. Now she's up
on the ballot in November, and I want you to
pay close attention because this is a race we need
to win. Back in July, Kelly Johnson's own court reporter
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filed complaints saying that Judge Johnson had a significant decline
in her behavior on the bench. She's having mental health episodes,
she's drunk, the Chronicle reports, even the Chronicle that back
in July she trashed her courtroom during one of these episodes.
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These mental health episodes. Think Lena had all go, but
it's all caught on camera, So other judges are having
to fill in because she she can't sit on the bench.
She hasn't since July. She had the complaint lodged with
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the State Commission on Judicial Conduct. It includes allegations of
a hostile work environment that she caused. The judge's husband
sought a temporary restraining order against her. She was pulled
over by the Harris County Sheriff's Department for erratic driving
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in April. A sergeant suspected she was intoxicated and that
she was attempting to use her position as a judge
to avoid scrutiny. She's a complete mess. If nothing else,
We've got to win this race, right, even Democrats would admit. Okay,
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So when you get your ballot, I want you to
scroll down and you're going to see that Kelly Johnson,
this crazed woman is up for reelection, and I want
you to vote for the Republican Party. Didn't feel the
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candidate she's going to be re elected because the Republican
Party has excuses. The excuse I was told is well,
we can't get anybody to run because if they don't
think they're going to win, they worry that they won't
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be able to practice before the judges that just beat them.
How did the Democrats go from no judges on the
bench to taking over the judiciary. If you can't get
the same insiders who are hanging out at the courthouse
every day to run as a Republican because they don't
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want to affect their daily gravy train with the Democrat judges, fine,
go out and find lawyers in the community that don't
care whether the judges like them or not and get
them to run. Go out and find retired judges. Go
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out and find people that will run as Republics. If
you vote Republican in every race, there will be racists.
You cannot vote out these evil Democrat judges because the
local Republican party did not feeld a candidate. That's your job,
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and I'm tired of the excuses. In fact, I'm tired
of the local party not doing its job. I'm tired
of the big donors who are contributing to causes that
are against our interest. At some point, there is a
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lot of blame to be shared by people who are
either inept or unwilling to do their jobs. And if
you cannot do your job, get out of the way
let somebody else do it. This has gone on for
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too long. Too many good people are kept out of
leadership positions, and they're out here and they're the ones
doing all the work and never getting any credit and
never given an opportunity to lead. And there is no
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outlet out there that knows enough about what's going on
to call this out. Your local party is failing you.
Your local party is making excuses. Rodney is running this county.
He's putting all his He's even kicked out Democrats from
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within the Democrat primary. He's kicked them out to put
his own handpicked Democrat. And you can hate Ridney all
you want because what he does is despicable, but you
know what else he does. He wins. All he does
is win, win, win. Our party does not. I don't
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know about you, but I don't like seller dwellers. I
don't like losers. I don't like losing. I'm tired of
excuses of why we don't fill every seat, why we
don't raise enough money, why we don't win in November,
why they didn't send enough ballots out there, why we
didn't support the lawsuits to expose that. At some point
(34:36):
we got a lot of really really nice, prim and
proper people who are not Warriors,