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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
So Michael Vari Show is.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
On the air.

Speaker 4 (00:13):
Joe's legacy of accomplishment over the past three and a
half years is unmatched in modern history. In one term,
he has already surpassed the legacy of most presidents.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Who served two terms in office. For as you are, Scott.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
When it comes to the economy, do you believe Americans
are better off than they were four years ago?

Speaker 4 (00:42):
So I was raised as a middle class kid.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Time lied to me, lied the way you see.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
An undocumented immigrant is not a criminal, and we have
to correct course in this conversation. Buona persona sin ba panish,
not escreminage.

Speaker 5 (01:08):
We are going to the border.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
We've been to the border.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
So this whole, this whole, this whole thing about the border.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
We've been to the border. We've been to the border.

Speaker 6 (01:16):
You haven't been to the border, and I haven't been
to Europe.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
And as a barman, there is a balance to be
struck between being tough and being a bitch.

Speaker 5 (01:42):
Turn that off.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Don't talked enough about jd Vance.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
I hope you're having a great day. It is an
honor for us to get to come into your truck
where you're driving, or into your home, or on your phone,
or if you're listening on the podcast. It really is
an honor. And I want to say this because it
comes from the heart. This is entertainment.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Now.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
I hope it's informative. I hope it engages you. I
hope it challenges you. I hope you find it interesting.
But at the end of the day, it falls into
the category of entertainment. And a Trump rally is entertainment.
I mean a debate is entertainment in that sense. I
don't mean that as it's not important. I just mean

(02:33):
it is in the category of things you do. This
would qualify under the bigger heading of entertainment. And we
have today more than we've ever had in history options
of entertainment. You've got your phone, You've got your Twitter,
your Snapchat, your Instagram, your Facebook, all those things you got,

(02:56):
all those things. You've got, text messages, you've got You've
got so many different things to entertain you, and that
could be informed, learn in rage, whatever entertainment is. You
can now get television on your phone, and there's a
television everywhere you go. There's, however, many stations, radio stations
in your town if you're listening on the podcast, there's

(03:20):
hundreds of podcasts you could choose from, So it is
an honor that you choose to spend some time with
us as we kind of work through some of these
issues and talk through some of these issues and share stories.
And I think that's why I read my emails when
I probably shouldn't, is because I do all the talking,
and reading my emails is an opportunity to make this

(03:42):
a real conversation rather than just me lecturing you. It
makes it more interactive, and I feel like it informs
the show because I get a better sense of what
you're thinking and can do the show I hope a
little better because of it.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
All Right.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Jd Vance was on with uh theovon and when the
producer pulled up a picture of jd Vance as a marine,
and theovonn had this line.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
Yeah, there's me when I was much much skinnier, much
better looking. Yeah, marines, that was the original Zamba.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
That's right, that is good. That is good, Marines, the
original Zimpic. I'm gonna steal that one.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
But Theolvann got serious.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
They were talking about the Mexican drug cartels when jd
Vance said we should station our military at our southern border.
Imagine that using our military to protect our country. Ramona
went to this late, so just take it to the break.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
There are two basic issues, right, and it's it's like,
you know, any business, there is a manufacturer, there's a wholesaler,
and then there's the retail, right. And you know with
with fintanyl, it's it's not you can't like make finanyl
and a trailer in somebody's basement or that's like it's
like meth. It takes a really complicated, pretty sophistic pharmaceutical process.

(05:01):
So we know that a lot of it, maybe even
most of it, the Chinese are making, meaning Chinese companies,
not like necessarily the Chinese government, but they sure as
they'll know about it, and then they bring it in
primarily through the southern border. And the Mexican drug cartels
are like the wholesalers right off the Chinese farm as
farmers the manufacturer. The drug cartels are bringing in wholesale

(05:23):
style and it makes it in the street level. The
other thing that people don't realize about the cartels man
is is one we're talking about some very dark and
dangerous people, Like this is not some guy who's like dealing,
you know, selling joints on a college campus. These are
like they're doing sex trafficking. They're they're they're they're they're
getting eleven ten year old girls involved in the sex trade. Yeah,

(05:44):
they're like very evil people, pat type of which is
absolutely vile. And it's it's like, why why are we
making it easier for these this like massive criminal organizations
to get richer and richer and richer, Like we should
be trying to make them poor, and I mean, you know,
hell yeah, help people actually need it.

Speaker 7 (06:03):
Well, it's also it's obviously one of the biggest enemies,
that's right. It's like if there were an enemy that
were killing if somebody, if there were somebody shooting in
your country every day and killing people, at a certain point,
you go over there, if you send your military there
or do something to say, hey, that's right, you're not
going to be We're not gonna.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
Let you do this anymore. That's basically what's happening, right.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Can you can you imagine if if if Mexico sent
gunmen across the border and killed seventy thousand Americans year,
because that's about what dies from finanol, we would be
in a major war, right, you know, we just absolutely
would be the case. So the other thing that's crazy
about this is so these cartels and you see this.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Graphic up's pretty pretty interesting there.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
But the cartels are going to start to destabilize the
country of Mexico.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Like do you know do you this name Pablo Escobar?

Speaker 5 (06:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Okay, So like the Colombian cartels in the seventies were
as powerful as like the Colombian government, right, it was
a narco state. You don't want that to happen, like
right at the American southern border, where the drug cartels
have more power than the Mexican government.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
That's just going to be chaotic.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
It's going to be basically a warlike atmosphere on our
southern border.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
That's bad news.

Speaker 7 (07:16):
Well it's bad news, but it'd be great to figure
out a way that to shut it down. I mean,
it just feels like, yeah, if that many people are
dying each year, if there were actual people shooting at
these people, we would send people there.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
In a heartbeat, right, And I think that's what we
have to I think not that we have to send
people to Mexico, but I think that we actually have
to have a military response to the southern border, because
these are such vicious.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
People gone as to day of everyone's thinking they could
actually live the American truth.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
The Michael Berry Show.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Toolsey was a congressman in Hawaii, Democrat congressman in Hawaii
who I think checked the box. She was a non
white woman, and unlike most of the black women congressman,
she wasn't crazy and wasn't likely to be arrested for

(08:09):
you know, stealing campaign cash or something. Because there's a
whole series of black women Democrats that are like the
worst possible human beings that end up in congress. Sheila
Jackson Lee was one of those. And I'm not going
to stop saying that just since she died. Cynthia McKinney.
There's a lot of them. Who's the one that just
lost a few months ago and then she started threatening

(08:31):
the Jews, she went crazy, Cory Bush.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
There's a lot of them.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
So anyway, Tilsey Gabbard as a as a young congressman,
was was elevated all the way up to be vice
chairman of the Democrat National Convention Democrat National Committee. It's
a very powerful position for a young congressman. And she

(08:59):
was a big Bernie Andrew supporter in twenty sixteen, which
that's sketchy, but whatever, because she was a Sanders supporter.
She hated the Hillary Clinton machine that had, you know,
decided that Hillary was the candidate, and she exposed the
fact that wiki leaks would eventually reveal that the Democrat

(09:22):
the DNC was using their money not to win in
November against whoever the Republicans would be, but to choose
the candidate in the primary. They were violating their own charter.
They weren't supposed to do this. So she was kind
of cast out from that and eventually lost her seat. Well,
she has now become a big Trump supporter, and I think.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
She has matured.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Doubt you always have to keep an eye on her,
partly because she's hot, but also partly because she was
an adult with really bad opinions, and it always makes
me nervous. But I think so she's announced that she
at a Trump rally that she has become a Republican,
and I think she's going to run for Congress, and

(10:06):
dependent on the race she chooses, and I think I
know which one it is, she could very well win.
Here is her at she's become a Darling at Trump rallies, folks, lover.

Speaker 8 (10:20):
It is because of my love for our country and
specifically because of the leadership that President Trump has brought
to transform the Republican Party and bring it back to
the Party of the People and the Party of Peace,
that I'm proud to stand here with you today, President
Trump and announce that I'm joining the Republican Party.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
This is such a crazy time RFK coming over to
support Trump. Nicole Shanahan is VP candidate Toolsey Gabbard, I
mean rappers. He's doing Joe Rogan's show on Fridays.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Such an interesting time.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Then the Chenese are over there showing who and what
they are, which is establishment.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Monsters if you ask my opinion.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
But my quandary at the beginning of that segment was
that I asked him to play a song about a
hot woman, which people paying attention would know that that
was me suggesting that Toolsey Gabbert is hot, which shouldn't
surprise anybody. She looks a lot like my wife.

Speaker 9 (11:33):
But he played legs and I don't actually know if
she has nice legs, and that song is about legs,
So I was going to scold him for a poor
choice of music off air.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
You wouldn't have heard.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
It, but it's zz Top and I love the little
band from Texas. So I was just kind of struggling
with that internal, you know moment, and I I thought
I would share that because I know some of you,
you know, you're like, where am I going to get
my burger this evening? Or you know, Ford or Chevy
or whatever your internal debate is. Do we have these

(12:09):
little internal debates we have?

Speaker 2 (12:11):
And that was mine. I would like to play you
a crazy clip.

Speaker 9 (12:19):
Now.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
I'm not going to have time in this segment. It's
a Portland clip and we're gonna get back to it.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
In a moment.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
I'm gonna set it up. I'm gonna set it up.
You hang with me. And then when our.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Show went from one market to syndication, our second market
was going to be Portland.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
It was a fellow named Robert Dove in Portland.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
And he has a station called k e X eleven
ninety and he was the market manager there. Marshall Burgess,
who is now the market manager, was a sales director
just from my station KX eleven ninety. And there was
a guy named Sarge I forget Sarge's first time.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
I think he's in Seattle now.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
And they decided that, you know, we're gonna put this
guy down and here, we're gonna put him on in
a second market and I and then they didn't because
there was a regional vice president who said he's two country,
he's too redneck, and so they put on another guy,
and my second market became Baton Rouge. And in six
months they came back and said, hey, that show didn't work,
we want you. And it's been a huge success ever since.

(13:23):
And I fell in love with Portland, and so we
would come up every summer, me and my wife and
my kids, and I would rent a house there, and
my kids view Portland is like a second home to them.
I love the city of Portland, and the story I'm
about to have to tell you about this mayoral debate
in Portland. It just breaks my heart for such a
wonderful town to just be destroyed like this.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
They remained scared to death of you, and they remained scared.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
To death of Trump. To Michael Berry show.

Speaker 5 (13:49):
You're not going anywhere even if Trump does, You're.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Not so with that build up. I love Portland.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
We started in Houston Baton Rouge picked us up Michael Hudson.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
As a market manager.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
At the time, Amy Leaves Pierre was I think she
was a sales manager. She's now the market manager. Baton
Rouge has been very, very good to me and to
our show, and the sales folks there, the programming folks there,
they've been just wonderful to us. And then after they

(14:24):
picked us up, then it was Portland, and I just
grew to love Portland. And I have long said, although
I don't believe this to be true any longer, for
years I said that Portland was the greatest town because
it didn't feel like a city to me. It felt
like a town. And I say that in a good way.
It's the greatest town in America that nobody knew about.

(14:45):
People did not know how wonderful Portland was. But the
Californians moved north and they began destroying Portland, just as
they're doing in Colorado. The types of people who were
leading the city, it was like a freak show. There

(15:09):
was one guy who was I can't remember his name.
You remember, I wish Chad was here. He could tell me.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Chad.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Chad spent a lot of time in Oregon. Uh, and
he knows all things port Portland. But there was a mayor,
a couple of mayors ago. It was absolutely nut. He
ran into somebody in the back. He was a gay
guy and all he wanted to do was be a
gay guy riding a bicycle that was like his his thing.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
It was just weird.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
But I did a big listener event and I brought
a bunch of Texans up and we were raising money
for Saint Jude.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
And we came to.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
The Benson Hotel, which I always wanted to stay in
Gloria's Hotel. And one of the days I did a
tour of the food trucks because Portland has a great
food truck culture. And we go there and everybody gets
their food, and then we go to the plaza next
to there where you go to eat it. And there
were about eight homeless people and it was like you

(16:09):
ever seen felines when they're catterawling when they're mating, and
they're chasing each other around and screeching, and one of
them getting onto It was like that. It was men
and women and taking their clothes off and throwing their
feces at each other. And my people were saying you know,
these are nice folks from Texas, thinking what does Michael

(16:33):
like about this town?

Speaker 2 (16:34):
I said, this is not how it used to be.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
And they're flinging that's what monkeys do, monkeys flinging feces.
And by the way, don't worry that because I know
some of you when you hear the word monkey or ape,
you think that's some kind of reference to being black.
I've heard this over the years. I think that in
and of itself is racist that you would think that.
But this was all white people's all white homeless people.

(16:57):
And then when my people lost stir appetite, went and
put the food into the trash bin. Nobody the city's broken,
so nobody had picked up the trash, so the trash
is piled high, so when you go to put the
trash in there, you had to push the trash down
to try to get it in there, and you couldn't,
so you got everybody's catch up nasty crap all over it.

(17:20):
And then the homeless people would go pick up the food,
and they weren't hungry. They would fling the food at
each other. So and one of them took one of
these white styrofoam I think they're called a clamshell clo
like the old Big Mac container. But it was a
whole plate of that because remember we got in these
from the from the food truck.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
He took it and.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Flung it like a frisbee, and I must say it
was rather impressive. His form was rather impressive. And when
he did, the food went everywhere. And they're screaming each other,
and my people are work like, are they going to
come and attack us? Because it's not like they can
overpower you because they have had a good night's sleep

(18:01):
in four years. You know, they sleep on the streets.
But these are not homeless people that kind of drag
their body like Quasimoto. These are homeless people on on
crank or and one of you know, one of these
drugs and they're in the middle of a bender and there,
you know, their eyes are bugged way out and they're
n and so my people were. And you don't want

(18:23):
to have to fight somebody like that because they might
have a needle hanging out of them that you didn't notice.
You don't want to have to punch a guy like that.
So you know, you could whip them, but you don't
want to have to engage because if if this thing
goes ground game and you're rolling on the ground with
that guy, you'll pass out because they smell like ass.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
It's awful, and you.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Don't know what all he's got on him that's going
to get off on you. You're not going to get
that stink off for days. So anyway, that was the story,
that's where we were. This is what happens. This is
what's happened in Minneapam Mogadishu. You know, you get a
Tim Wallace as governor of Minnesota, you see what's happened.

(19:04):
You get these white liberal White liberals are the problem
in this country.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
I want to be very clear on this. Malcolm Xwell's correct.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
White liberals are the problem because what white liberals do
is they sit around trying to think up the craziest,
most irrational thing they could ever dream up, and then
they try to normalize it.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
It's a game, it's a challenge.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
So of late it is let's get the boys to
cut their wieners off, and let's take a big, huge
chunk out of girls' thighs, of the muscle all that.
Let's attach that as an appendage and call it a
wiener and screw these kids up. Let's see if and
any parent who won't let us do that to their child,
we will get their child taken away from them by

(19:51):
the state and destroy them.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
If we can pull that off, then we're in charge.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Well what kind of crazy, but these people run you
start with the notion that they're unstable. You know you're
dealing with that. Uh, Let's see if we can get
boys in girls sports. Let's see we get boys into
the locker room.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Let's see.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Let's see if we can destroy manufacturing in this country
in the name of green innergy.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
It never stops. So that's what the white liberals have done.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
So there's a Portland mayoral debate, and I'm just going
to play you some of this like public Access TV.
In the mayoral debate, the candidates include a stripper named
Viva Las Vegas and a woman with six driver's license
suspensions Pray for Portland.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Next to him.

Speaker 10 (20:40):
Leave austis an author, writer, musician, and stripper, also known
as Viva Las Vegas.

Speaker 6 (20:46):
And these vacancies we need office to housing conversions right away.
I don't believe in insisting that workers come back downtown.
I think that's environmentally unconsctable. But I do see a
yearning from my fellow artists to come back downtown and
to really make it hum again with activity. So make
some of these zombie buildings, as my campaign calls them,

(21:08):
make those available for artists studios in the interim until
we can get these housing conversions up and running.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Make music studios.

Speaker 6 (21:17):
Once artists come and bring their energy back downtown, support
the small businesses that follow them. Make sure that when
their window gets smashed, that the city is there to
pay for that.

Speaker 8 (21:25):
Make sure that.

Speaker 6 (21:27):
What does it curbside appeal is the city's responsibility, not
just the owners. Okay, that's all my time. Thank you
for the question.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Ms Ruba.

Speaker 10 (21:35):
Let's talk about your one hundred and fifty parking and
traffic tickets, your failures for here in court six driver's
license suspensions, largely before you were elected to city council.
Then there was an incident last month where you scraped
another vehicle while parking and walked away without leaving a note.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Our recording also shows.

Speaker 10 (21:50):
You were ticketed as a sitting city commissioner for an
expired vehicle registration, which a year later, according to records,
still had not been updated.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Given that history.

Speaker 10 (21:59):
What can you to reassure voters who may have questions
about whether they should trust you with an a plus
billion dollar budget and whether you will be a champion
for law and order.

Speaker 8 (22:08):
Now, you previously oppose an assault weapons ban, but it
only later in.

Speaker 6 (22:11):
Your political career did you change your position wide Michael.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Berry shall become friends with school shooters. Donald Trump said
to appear on Joe Rogan's podcast on Friday. He is
said to have fourteen million subscribers. It was also announced
earlier today that Kamala Harris will not appear on Joe

(22:36):
Rogan's podcast.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
She was given the opportunity. She's scared.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
They are canceling her appearances and pulling back because the
attempt to clawback some of her supporters by being more
accessible has exposed her the fact that the more accessible
she is, the worse she does because she's not likable.

(23:08):
I'm going to say something that Ramona is going to
accuse me of saying, just for a fact, because in
the moment, the immediacy of it all can often seem
like that you judge this for yourself fromone but I'm
going to say something that is going to seem dramatic
given my experience in my opinions over the years. You

(23:33):
tell me if I'm just saying it right now because
I have forgotten how unlikable this other person is. I
think Kamala Harris is far more unlikable than Hillary Clinton.
I know for me to say that is something, but
I do believe it. And the thing about it is,

(23:55):
there are people who can appear in public in the
moment that you glance him to be likable. You gotta really, really,
really be unlikable for us to pick that up, even
just in a moment of seeing you per day, and
we do, and we did.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Why did you say that? Oh you wanna here's here,
here's how.

Speaker 9 (24:28):
So.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Trump is set to appear on Joe Rogan's podcast on Friday. Meanwhile,
jd Vance was on Theovon's podcast. You may not know Theovon,
but I love Theovon. He He is a guy. He's
very funny, very witty. He has something of a persona
he plays. He pretends to be dumb. He's not.

Speaker 9 (24:51):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
He pretends to be kind of a simpleton, and some
people may not realize that that it's pretend. The guy
is brilliant and his his comedic timing is as good
as you will find out there. I am a super
fan of Theovon. It's originally from New Orleans anyway, on Monday,

(25:14):
THEO Vaugh's podcast. You may remember the name because back
in August, Trump was on Theovon's podcast. Jd Vance was
on Theovon's podcast and it was the most relaxed I've
ever seen jd Vance and I have heard from so
many people. The response to it has been overwhelming, I

(25:36):
mean just glowing. I've heard from so many people that
have said they said this guy was weird. This guy's
the most normal. You would want to be friends with
this guy. But listen, it's like what Russia always said.
Whatever they're guilty of, they accuse you of. They're racist.

(25:57):
White liberals are racist, Black democrats are racists. So they
call you racist and you're on your heels. You must
never let them set the terms. You must reject the premise.
This is what Trump does that no one else does.
When they say you support white supremacists. He doesn't say no,

(26:19):
I don't no, I don't.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
You ever noticed that?

Speaker 3 (26:23):
And people will say to me, why why can't he
just say it's not true? Because he refuses to let
them set the terms. If you're willing to let them
set the terms, that's your issue. And if that causes
you to change your opinion of Donald Trump because you're
that much of a novice, that's on.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
You, not him. That is on you, not him. So anyway, jd.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Vance was on Theovon's podcast on Monday, and Theovon had
him laugh in the whole time.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
It was golden. It was just glorious.

Speaker 5 (26:56):
He's the funniest dude they've ever had in there.

Speaker 7 (26:58):
Uh, he is incredible funny, he says, it's absolutely wild.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
He's got a great sense of he can I tell
you one story. The first time not that he had
met ever met my wife, but the first time President
Trump spent any like real time with my wife, did
he flos Whether or not he didn't flirt with her.
He was very sweet to her, you know, give her
a big hug, told her she was beautiful. And he's
you know, he's a very engaging guy that some of
the media doesn't tell people about him, but he's he's

(27:22):
a very engaging guy, very easy to talk to. But
it's so funny, Like, my wife is super diplomatic, and
so he asks her. He's like, usha, you know, what
do you think about your your husband being involved in politics?
And she says, oh, you know, it's nice, I like,
you know, supporting him. He really cares about public service,
loves the people of Ohio. Just gives a very diplomatic answer,
and then he kind of chuckles and says, yeah, my
wife hates it too, and it just like broke the

(27:47):
ice perfectly, and then she could actually have a conversation
with him because she wasn't trying to like talk to
the president. Then she was just talking to a guy
at that point. And he's he's just he's got a
very very good way about him.

Speaker 7 (27:59):
And he brings down stuff the other night that my lord,
yeah Tony Hinchcliffe helped him write that or not.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
I told it's a good question, but he's I'll tell
you a lot of this stuff he just comes up
with himself.

Speaker 5 (28:14):
I mean the line where he was talking.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
About you know, white dudes for coming oh yeah, and
he was like, he was like, I forget exactly what
he said, but some of the effect of well it's okay,
and there there there their wives and their wives boyfriends
are all voting for Trump. Pretty crazy dude. And like

(28:37):
all good jokes, there's like an element of truth to right.
That's any rubbed unlucky Chuck Schumer right there.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
That interview is made possible because of Donald Trump. And
what I mean by that is Trump changed the game
in twenty sixteen. Think about who your candidates were before that.
John McCain, Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush, stuffy people, George W.

Speaker 5 (29:05):
Bush.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
They weren't relatable. They because they were in politics, they
had to be very serious all the time. And we
don't want that anymore. And Trump showed that we don't
want that anymore. Meanwhile, Chris Matthews now has a thrill
going up his leg for Liz Cheney. Well, he went
from Barack Obama worship to Liz Cheney.

Speaker 11 (29:30):
She is a character almost out of the movies that
have a man for all seasons. I've never seen a
more heroic figure than Liz Cheney. She lost her her
state probably forever, she lost her party, she lost her
leadership in the Republican House. She could have been on
her way to speaker. It was very probable. She gave

(29:50):
it all way in the interest of truth. That's what
she stood for. It's amazing to me how few people
have gotten behind her. But now one person that's got
behind here is Kamala Harris. And those sitting together, those
two women, as you say on that stage, is remarkable
because there's such courage there from Liz Cheney and I had.

(30:11):
I cannot say anything that it would stop me from saying,
she's been unbelievable, and I think now they use her
for the next two weeks. I also want to say
something about the Democrats. If you're going to use her,
repay her when you get in office. Don't just act
like you're giving a little nods to a Republican clean
up some of your actor. You've got problems Democrats. You

(30:32):
don't have all the answers you. You gotta do much
stuff for her action on the border, you have to
get serious about it and come up with a reasonable
way of getting people into the country in a reasonable
way and let them become citizens in time. But you
got to do something. You can't just say I'm with Biden.
That's not too good. You can't say on the inflation,
it's world inflation. Nobody cares about the world. They wanted

(30:54):
to wire their prices.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
They're going up.

Speaker 11 (30:55):
So I think Demro's got a lot of things to
clean up, but one of the things they need to
show his courage and guts, and that woman has

Speaker 9 (31:09):
Mm hmm
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