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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time. Time, time, time, luck and load. So
Michael Verie Show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
After all we have been through together, we stand on
the verge of the four greatest years in the history
of the USA. With your help, from now until election Day,
we will restore America's promise. We will put America first,
and we will take back the nation that we all love.
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We bleed the same blood, we share the same home,
and we salute the same great American flag. We are
one people, one family, and one glorious nation under God.
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We will never give in.
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We will never give up.
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We will never ever back down. Together, we will fight, fight, fight,
and we.
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Will win, win win.
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We're gonna win, win, win.
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Do have a.
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Our American ancestors pushed onward, marched forward, and overcame every
single obstacle that.
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Stood in their way.
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Together they crossed the oceans, settled the continent, came the wilderness,
laid down the railroads, raised up those mighty skyscrapers, built
the highways, won two World Wars, defeated fascism and communism,
and launched American astronauts to the moon. It was hard
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working patriots like you who built this country and not
engaged from now, it's hard working patriots like you who
are going to save our contract.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
We at this point of the silly season, as it's
come to be called over the years, we argue over
what the media is saying, what crazy accusations they dream up?
Is Trump a Nazis? Trump a fascist? And Obama boot liquor.
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David Brooks, as you'll learn later in the show, is
now advising Democrats. You're not gaining any ground because you
don't have any credibility with this fascist thing, this Nazi thing. Well,
the media is up for referendum right now. When you
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step back from arguing with the media over their claims
of Nazism and whether kill Tony Tony Hinchcliff is funny
or whether he's out of line, or whether Mehdi Hassan
calling someone a Nazi and then them saying, I hope
your page doesn't blow up, Ryan Dardusky, all of these
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things are the show. They're the game. And much as
if you're a sports fan you can get real caught
up on whether the Cowboys are ever going to make
the playoffs again and what the player said and what
this player did, But the real game, the bigger picture
when you step back, is at the ownership level and
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at the league level, and the brand that is the sport. Well,
the bigger picture when you step back, the owner in
this case is the American public, and the folks that
were making the good money off of this was the media.
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And somewhere along the way they lost the plotline. The
idea of objective journalism died. But we're seeing something that's happening.
The marketplace is correcting. Not as fast or as fully
as we'd like, but the marketplace is correcting. The Los
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Angeles Times, the largest paper in Kamala Harris's home state,
chose not to endorse. That's a very powerful statement. You
would have expected they would endorse her. Then the Washington Post,
at the direction of Jeff Beisos, the founder and owner
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of Amazon, said no, we're not. Now USA today notoriously
liberal has refused to endorse a candidate. Well, a lot
of folks that are Washington Post subscribers they don't want journalism,
they want activism, and so they're canceling their subscriptions, and
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editorial board members are resigning and reporters are resigning. But
I thought you brought us the news objectively, right, I
thought you were the folks that were the referee. We
could count on you, your integrity to bring us the truth.
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So how is it that not endorsing Kamala Harris is
a violation in your mind of your duty. So Jeff
beisos who scared the death of the bigger issue. You see,
unlike previous owners, the Washington Post isn't his be all
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and end all. He can't afford for Amazon, his big
business that allows him to play with this business. He
can't afford for them to lose their contracts. So he
has written an editorial which I'll get to in just
a moment, about the lack of trust and respect people
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have for journalists. And when you really, when you do
the post mortem on America what went wrong the last
fifty sixty years, and you begin to unravel one of
the great errors, one of the weak spots in the
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proper functioning of our republic was when journalism died, and
it did when journalists no longer pretended to be objective.
You know, there's a lot of heat on Jack Tapper
right now because in twenty sixteen he trafficked in the Russia,
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was controlling our election nonsense. In fact, it was him,
particularly through the Hillary Clinton campaign, the Steele dossier and
Fusion GPS, who managed to push all of those lies,
one hundred percent whole cloth lies into mainstream news. In
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order to protect themselves. They would all say, is Russia interfering?
People are saying Russia is interfering. It's being reported that
Russia is interfering. When have we seen that? Well, we
saw it last week with Steve Jobs's widow, who's a
left wing nut. There's pictures of her hanging out with
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Jeffrey Epstein's arranger, giland Maxwell, and she's big buddies with
Michelle Obama, she's big buddies with Hillary Clinton, the original
election denier. So she bought this little online magazine and
she's got this guy, Jeffrey Goldberg, and she pays him
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to basically say anything. Trump's a murderer, Trump's a fascist,
Trump's a Nazi. And then all everybody else has to
do is say it's being reported that, but it's costing them.
You've wisened up.
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And what I see it all over the place is
people who care about looking good while doing evil.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
The Michael Barry Show.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Jeffy So is the owner of Amazon who bought the
Washington Post, stepped in and said, we're not endorsing Kamala Harris.
They wanted to. The LA Times has said we're not
endorsing anyone. It's not that they're endorsing Trump, They're not
endorsing anyone. Now USA Today has come out and said
we're not endorsing anyone. Of course, the Houston Chronicle, one
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of the hearst papers, much to the embarrassment of anyone
living in Houston who remembers that that was once a
fine paper, having to watch as they endorse Kamala Harris.
But here's what Jeff Bisos wrote in the annual public
surveys about trust and reputation. Journalists and the media have
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regularly fallen near the very bottom, often just above Congress.
But in this year's Gallup poll, we have managed to
fall even below Congress. Our profession is now the least
trusted of all. Something we are doing is clearly not working.
Let me give an analogy. Voting machines must meet two requirements.
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They must count the vote accurately, and people must believe
they count the vote accurately. The second requirement is distinct
from and just as important as the first. Likewise, with newspapers,
we must be accurate, and we must be believed to
be accurate. It's a bitter pill to swallow, but we're
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failing on the second requirement. Most people believe the media
is biased. Anyone who doesn't see this is paying scant
attention to reality, and those who fight reality lose. Reality
is an undefeated champion. It would be easy to blame
others for our long and continuing fall and credibility, and
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therefore decline an impact, but a victim mentality will not help.
Complaining is not a strategy. We must work harder to
control what we can control to increase our credibility. Presidential
endorsements do nothing to tip the scales of an election.
No undecided voters in Pennsylvania are going to say, I'm
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going to go with newspaper a's endorsement. None. What presidential
endorsements actually do is create a perception of bias, a
perception of non independence. Ending them is a principal decision,
and it is the right one. Eugene Meyer, publisher of
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the Washington Post from nineteen thirty three to nineteen forty six,
thought the same, and he was right by itself. Declining
to endorse presidential candidates is not enough to move us
very far up the trust scale, but it's a meaningful
step in the right direction. I wish we had made
the change earlier than we did, in a moment further
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from the election and the emotions around it. That was
inadequate planning and not some intentional strategy. Lack of credibility
is not unique to the Post. Our brethren newspapers have
the same issue, and it's a problem not only for
media but also for the nation. Many people are turning
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to off the cuff podcasts, inaccurate social media posts, and
other unverified news sources, which can quickly spread misinformation and
deepen divisions. The Washington Post and The New York Times
win prizes, but increasingly we talk only to a certain elite.
More and more we talk to ourselves. It wasn't always
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this way. In the nineteen nineties, we achieved eighty percent
household penetration in the DC metro area. While I do
not and will not push my personal interest, I will
also not allow this paper to stay on autopilot and
fade into irrelevance, overtaken by unresearched podcasts and social media
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barbs not without a fight. It's too important. The stakes
are too high now more than ever. The world needs
a credible, trusted, independent voice. And where better for that
voice to originate than the original city of the most
important country in the world. To win this fight, we
will have to exercise new muscles. Some changes will be
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a return to the past, and some will be new inventions.
Criticism will be part and parcel of anything new. Of course,
this is the way of the world. None of this
will be easy, but it will be worth it. How
about the unresearched podcast line. How about the idea that
somehow what you're speaking is the truth because you have
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standards When you all trafficked in the Russia conspiracy theories
against Trump in twenty sixteen, when you all trafficked in
the COVID conspiracy theories of twenty twenty, when you lied
to people repeatedly, don't act like you have some standard
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by which we should come to trust you, because we
don't and we won't because the people who work there,
and this is the way of general of journalism now,
they're not tellers of the truth, seekers of the truth.
They are activists. And the same way that people go
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into teaching at the high school or university level to
be an activist, the same way that people go into
being a staffer and then an elected official to be
an activist, the same way that people open nonprofits to
be an activist. So too, journalists became activists, and that's
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when they lost all their credibility. That's why nobody trusts
them any longer. Jd Vance went on Tim Dillon's podcast,
and we'll play some of that in a bit, but
he absolutely nailed it. Now, you probably don't know that
because there's been so much talk about the Trump rally
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at Madison Square Garden, so much talk about Trump's appearance
on Rogan and that it had hit thirty three point
four million people within I don't know what it was
forty eight hours.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Well.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Jd Vance is set to go on Joe Rogan's podcast
tomorrow and that too will get a lot of attention
and a Jeff Beisos who grew up the way I did.
Respecting these newspapers, these August newspapers, A Washington Posted, a
New York Times, the the New York Times, and Washington Post.
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You know, taglines with things like democracy dies in darkness.
All the news that's fit to print. And yet and
yet it's highway robbery. What they've gotten away with. It's banditry,
it's evil, it's dark, it's malicious. The lies that were
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knowingly told, the things that were done to Trump, the
things that were said about Trump, the lies that were trafficked,
the lack of consequence to anyone, I delight in the
destruction of the legacy media. It is a fire they
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started that has consumed them and will destroy them. And that,
in my Southern Baptist upbringing, is what we call justice,
what we call consequences. That's a good.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
You were a kid, you all admired, the champion marble shoot,
the fastest runner, big League ballplayers.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
The Tuckers, ritor Michael Berry, American winner Tamala Harris's campaign
is in complete free fall. They are moving money out
of Wisconsin, which was a battleground state, into Virginia, which
was not supposed to be. They have moved money out
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of North Carolina into Virginia. They are in big trouble.
To put it into perspective, here is Obama boot liquor
David brook Brooks and he's talking. He's on PBS, and
he's talking about the fact that the messaging for the
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Democrats is failing the whole. Donald Trump is a Nazi,
Donald Trump is a fascist, and he's saying that's not working.
Speaker 8 (17:33):
As a political maneuver. I don't think the argument on
fascism has been swaying voters. And I you know, when
I travel around the country talking to people about what
they want to hear about, they don't take the fascism
claim seriously for rightly or wrongly, because they think, well,
Donald Trump was already president. We didn't have a fascist
government then, and so to me, the focus should not
be on fascism for the Democrats, who should be on
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the economy and on immigration. That's the economy and inflation
of the number one things that has moved moving people
away from her, and to me, if she focuses on fascism,
it will ri It'll please a lot of people who
are Democrats who really think the fascist threat is real.
And maybe they're right, I just as you are. We're
trying to get at the undecided voters that the low
interest voters, and I don't believe the fascists of margument
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is a good way to close the campaign.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Let me tell you the story about chicken little who
would screen the Sky's falling. It may just be the
case that when you've claimed that everybody's a Nazi and
a fascist for so long, every time you're losing, and
even when the other side wins, we never end up
wearing the outfit that Kamala Harris was yesterday, which looks
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strangely like a Hitler uniform. Then after a while, even
low information voters go, nah, no, that's not going to
work for me. Mike Pence's chief of staff, Nick Ayers
went on the record to call John Kelly's claims about
Trump and Hitler patently false. This is Pence's chief of staff.
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He wrote on x I have avoided commenting on interrst
staff leaks or rumors, or even lies as it relates
to my time at the White House, but General Kelly's
comments regarding President Trump are too egregious to ignore. I
was with each of them more than most, and his
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commentary is patently false. Speaking of former officials within the
Trump administration, former acting Ice Director under Trump, Tom Holman's
been a great guest on our show. Was on sixty
minutes and he was talking about mass deportation, and he
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was talking about the fact that we have to remove
these people. This is what you must do. If you're
not going to remove these people, then more will come
and you don't have a nation. It's simply going to happen.
They're trying to make him out to be a bad guy,
but do you know you sometimes have to remove a
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father from the household to send him to prison when
he raped somebody or murder somebody. But that doesn't make
you a bad person. The rule of law must stand.
Justice is blind. Don't come here, period, end of story.
Here's that clip here.
Speaker 9 (20:32):
A lot of people say, you know, the talk of
a mass deportation is racist. It's a it's threatening to
immigrant community. It's not threatened to the immigrant community. It
should be threatening to the illegal immigrant community. But on
the heels of historic illegal immigration crisis, that has to
be done.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
What would the largest deportation in American history look like
to you?
Speaker 9 (20:56):
Well, let me tell you what it's not going to be. First,
it's not going to be a asked sweep of neighborhoods.
It's not going to be building concentration camps. I've read
it all. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
But if mass deportation is not going to be as
you said, massive sweeps and concentration camps.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
What is it.
Speaker 9 (21:12):
They'll be targeted arrest. We'll know who we're going to
rest where we're most likely to find them based on
numerous investigative processes.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
How many people would be deported?
Speaker 9 (21:23):
That's that's a You can't answer that question.
Speaker 8 (21:25):
Why not?
Speaker 9 (21:26):
How many officers have.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
Is there a written plan on this? If there's no memo,
If there's no plan, is this fully baked?
Speaker 4 (21:36):
We've done it before, but not a deportation at this scale.
Speaker 9 (21:40):
ICE is very good at these operations. This is what
they do.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
You know, you know how many warrants are served every
day for people who didn't show up the court, for
people who've committed more crimes. It's shocked you the number
they do, these big roundups. It has to be done,
It must be done. Why must it be done. Let's
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take the case from right here in Houston. My listeners
on our flagship Katie H know everything about it. A
young lady named Jocelyn Nunger, eight twelve years old, was murdered.
She was tortured, murdered, and left dumped in the bayou
by two illegal aliens who had been freed by the
Biden Harris Craut. Alexis Nungeray. Her mother speaks in this
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new ad for Trump, and it's a good one.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Sunday night, I asked her should not stay up super
late because of her coming to work with me in
the morning first to do her summer school. She said, okay.
I told her good night, and I love you. I
went to bed, not realizing that that was going to
be the last time I saw her. We're best friend,
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we go speaking again. I woke up to notice she
wasn't in red. I'm in my heart trying not to
lose my mind because I don't know where she is.
I finally remembered her phone had a location on and
her phone was pinging just two minutes down the road,
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right behind the skatepark. I start driving to the direction
the phone was being pinged at, and I see a
couple of cop cars with lights on. I see yellow
tape and immediately my heart drops and sinks to the
bottom of my stomach. My daughter's hands and ankles were
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both bound. She was strangled to death, with left with
no pants, and I know in my heart she fought
incredibly hard. She was not going down without a fight.
We begin with two men we're learning our charge with
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capital murder.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Tonight, accused of killing a.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Twelve year old girl. Police eight.
Speaker 10 (24:04):
These men strangled her before dumping her into that creek.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Both men were in the country.
Speaker 10 (24:09):
Illegally, apprehended than released by border patrol less than three
weeks before Jocelyn's death. Man accused of killing Jocelyn Nungery
are affiliated with the gang known for brutal violence.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Kamala Harris was in charge of immigration in our borders.
If we had better border policies and not open borders
and not these catch and release policies, I truly believe
this all could have been premitted under her being vice
president of this country. My daughter's life was ripped away
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from her. She had her entire life ofhead of her.
My daughter is six feet in the ground based off
of policies as she allowed to keep. Kamala Harris did
have one job.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
And.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
She not only failed, not me, she failed my daughter.
She failed Joscelyn. You know she was only twelve. President
Trump reached out gave me his sincereous condolences as not
a former president, but just as a father someone who cares.
I believe Donald.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Trump needs to be back in office.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
I can at least know that my next child will
be safe in this country.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
Everybody needs to be woke.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
I just say more woke than left woke.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
There are a lot of things that play in this election,
and it's not until after a moment passes that you
realize that a moment has just passed, that something was
a play that you might not have seen. This would
appear to be a battle between Trump and Kamala Harris,
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but not really. The bigger battle is for the independent
individual versus the institutions. Today, a story emerged that Barbara Bush,
daughter of George W. Bush and granddaughter of Barbara Bush,
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of the former First Lady, that she's in Pennsylvania campaigning
for Kamala Harris, and a tweet goes out from Liz Cheney,
Welcome to the sisterhood. We're all on the side of goodness.
You're on the side of people who wanted your father's
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sent to prison court martial. Those people didn't change. We
didn't change.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
You did.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
You're campaigning for the very people who would have hanged
your father if they had the opportunity. This is the change,
the realignment of Robert F. Kennedy Junior and Toolsey Gabbert
to our side in exchange for the establishment, Liz Cheney
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and her daddy as a package deal because war pays
well and Daddy Warbucks needs her to help Kamala because
Trump's not a warmonger, but Kamala will be. Because that's
where the money's at, and where the money is being
spent is where we can keep some for ourselves. And
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that's really the point of it. All your boys are
just collateral damage in their wars. It's not about weapons
of mass destruction or freedom or fighting them there, so
we don't have to fight them here. This is no
longer a grand pitched battle for the American way or
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self governance or democracy or anything else that they might
tell you. We're on the wrong side as often as
we're on the right, and it has nothing to do
with a philosophical underpinning. Zelensky's getting wealthy and some others
are as well off of your dollars, and war is
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desperately sought because war is good business, you see, Because
war is good business, just as epidemics are good business.
When you're in the pharmaceutical business. Ask Pfizer how well
that turned out for them. And when you understand that
there are people, evil, evil people who will sacrifice this
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nation and burn it to the ground, feed your chill
into the crocodiles to make a bunch of money, which
is understandable. You know that to be the case. I
don't mind that these people are evil. That doesn't bother me.
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I mind that they engage in their evil while claiming
to be protecting us, while claiming anyone who questions them
is a bad person, while claiming that we're naive, or
we want to kill Granny, or we love putin that.
Speaker 9 (29:43):
That's what I mind.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
What we're witnessing right now as well is the death
of the superstar establishment politician, the Bushes, the Romney's, the
mccains and all there the patina of respectability with which
they've gotten rich. Well I've had enough of it, all right,
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for one have had enough. But the media, the media
is collapsing as well. Jd Vance will go on Joe
Rogan tomorrow, But here he is with Tim Dillon talking
about the fact that the media can trash me. This
is an interview I bet you didn't hear telling about Look,
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I don't care what the media says about me any longer.
Those were years ago. I just don't care.
Speaker 11 (30:38):
A lot of people are warning that this will be
the final election and there will be no more democracy
if you and Trump are elected, There'll be no more democracy.
It'll be the final election. And these are like, these
are good people.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
This is Goldman.
Speaker 11 (30:53):
Sachs, this is the Cheney family, this is you know,
a lot of defense contractors.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
So the people with the best interests of the American people,
aslutely true, the people who really keep the American social
whatever respond.
Speaker 11 (31:06):
To that when you know, when you're you have a
multi ethnic family, and they go you and Donald Trump
are racist and hate different kinds of people because you've
criticized having an open border.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
Yeah, I mean, I can't help but roll my eyes
at it at this point. And there was probably a time,
honestly six seven years ago where I really cared, you know,
when my book came out, I really cared what the
media said about me. I just don't care anymore because
they're so obviously full of right. Like actually, if you look,
I mean, even just you talk to like working in
middle class Latino voters, they hate the open border even
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more than like my family from rural Ohio and Kentucky
because they don't like having their wages undercut. That you know,
when the cartels are doing business in their communities, it's
the Latinos that are actually the most pissed off about it.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
So I just kind of roll my eyes at it.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
I think that, you know, you have to have a
certain sense of humor about American politics, and it's easy
to do when you're running against Kamala Harris and you're
you know, you're running with Donald Trump. Because as much
as he obviously I mean, look, I think they've done
more to him than any presidential candidate in my lifetime,
he still actually has an amazing sense of humor about
the whole thing. And oftentimes, like you know, I call
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him obviously like every day at this point talking about
the campaign, but he always ends up cracking a joke.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
And I think it's in part because he.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
Knows, like, that's what's good for for me in that moment,
is we got to laugh about some of the stuff
or were gonna go crazy.
Speaker 11 (32:30):
Yeah, there there is. Now we're in October, We've got
about two weeks left. So now every single day there's
some article coming out in a publication that Donald Trump
said something Hitlarian or about Hitler or about like. So
it does seem to me that the hysteria is at
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a fever pitch.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
It really is.
Speaker 11 (32:52):
What do you think about John Kelly, who did come
out and say the Trump is a fascist and this
is fascism and all of that.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
Well, first of all, the amount of stock the media
puts in a disgruntled ex employee. Mean, John Kelly was fired, right,
and look, you know, he served his country, but he
was fired, and he's pissed off about Trump over that, right,
And if you talk to the people who were in
the room when Trump allegedly said these things that he said,
even like Mike Pince's former chief of staff, are saying
it's totally made up.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
It's a total lie. But here's the really.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
Interesting thing, right, Yeah, three four years ago, the media
we're all calling John Kelly an evil racist for helping
to promote Donald Trump's border policies.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
And now it shows how thin this is.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
Right, Like Dick Cheney, who I legitimately think is the
single worst vice president easily of my lifetime. Right, right,
but effective, but well I'm effective at like destroying the country,
you know, And maybe that's why he's endorsing Kamala Harris.
It's like, finally somebody's come along who's been even worse
than I have.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Is Kamala Harris.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
But the fact that the media now pretends that he's
like some hero of human rights.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
The guy was a disaster. I mean, we.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
Invaded Iraq, we invaded you know, the twenty year quagmire
in Afghanistan. All of these Americans who lost their lives,
who lost their limbs, that was because of very stupid leadership.
And now we're going to forget about it because the
media hates Donald Trump. It's the most insane thing I've
seen in politics and
It's that time. Time, time, time, luck and load. So
Michael Verie Show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
After all we have been through together, we stand on
the verge of the four greatest years in the history
of the USA. With your help, from now until election Day,
we will restore America's promise. We will put America first,
and we will take back the nation that we all love.
(00:40):
We bleed the same blood, we share the same home,
and we salute the same great American flag. We are
one people, one family, and one glorious nation under God.
(01:02):
We will never give in.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
We will never give up.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
We will never ever back down. Together, we will fight, fight, fight,
and we.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Will win, win win.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
We're gonna win, win, win.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Do have a.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Our American ancestors pushed onward, marched forward, and overcame every
single obstacle that.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
Stood in their way.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Together they crossed the oceans, settled the continent, came the wilderness,
laid down the railroads, raised up those mighty skyscrapers, built
the highways, won two World Wars, defeated fascism and communism,
and launched American astronauts to the moon. It was hard
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working patriots like you who built this country and not
engaged from now, it's hard working patriots like you who
are going to save our contract.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
We at this point of the silly season, as it's
come to be called over the years, we argue over
what the media is saying, what crazy accusations they dream up?
Is Trump a Nazis? Trump a fascist? And Obama boot liquor.
(02:36):
David Brooks, as you'll learn later in the show, is
now advising Democrats. You're not gaining any ground because you
don't have any credibility with this fascist thing, this Nazi thing. Well,
the media is up for referendum right now. When you
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step back from arguing with the media over their claims
of Nazism and whether kill Tony Tony Hinchcliff is funny
or whether he's out of line, or whether Mehdi Hassan
calling someone a Nazi and then them saying, I hope
your page doesn't blow up, Ryan Dardusky, all of these
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things are the show. They're the game. And much as
if you're a sports fan you can get real caught
up on whether the Cowboys are ever going to make
the playoffs again and what the player said and what
this player did, But the real game, the bigger picture
when you step back, is at the ownership level and
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at the league level, and the brand that is the sport. Well,
the bigger picture when you step back, the owner in
this case is the American public, and the folks that
were making the good money off of this was the media.
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And somewhere along the way they lost the plotline. The
idea of objective journalism died. But we're seeing something that's happening.
The marketplace is correcting. Not as fast or as fully
as we'd like, but the marketplace is correcting. The Los
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Angeles Times, the largest paper in Kamala Harris's home state,
chose not to endorse. That's a very powerful statement. You
would have expected they would endorse her. Then the Washington Post,
at the direction of Jeff Beisos, the founder and owner
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of Amazon, said no, we're not. Now USA today notoriously
liberal has refused to endorse a candidate. Well, a lot
of folks that are Washington Post subscribers they don't want journalism,
they want activism, and so they're canceling their subscriptions, and
(05:14):
editorial board members are resigning and reporters are resigning. But
I thought you brought us the news objectively, right, I
thought you were the folks that were the referee. We
could count on you, your integrity to bring us the truth.
(05:37):
So how is it that not endorsing Kamala Harris is
a violation in your mind of your duty. So Jeff
beisos who scared the death of the bigger issue. You see,
unlike previous owners, the Washington Post isn't his be all
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and end all. He can't afford for Amazon, his big
business that allows him to play with this business. He
can't afford for them to lose their contracts. So he
has written an editorial which I'll get to in just
a moment, about the lack of trust and respect people
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have for journalists. And when you really, when you do
the post mortem on America what went wrong the last
fifty sixty years, and you begin to unravel one of
the great errors, one of the weak spots in the
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proper functioning of our republic was when journalism died, and
it did when journalists no longer pretended to be objective.
You know, there's a lot of heat on Jack Tapper
right now because in twenty sixteen he trafficked in the Russia,
(07:04):
was controlling our election nonsense. In fact, it was him,
particularly through the Hillary Clinton campaign, the Steele dossier and
Fusion GPS, who managed to push all of those lies,
one hundred percent whole cloth lies into mainstream news. In
(07:28):
order to protect themselves. They would all say, is Russia interfering?
People are saying Russia is interfering. It's being reported that
Russia is interfering. When have we seen that? Well, we
saw it last week with Steve Jobs's widow, who's a
left wing nut. There's pictures of her hanging out with
(07:48):
Jeffrey Epstein's arranger, giland Maxwell, and she's big buddies with
Michelle Obama, she's big buddies with Hillary Clinton, the original
election denier. So she bought this little online magazine and
she's got this guy, Jeffrey Goldberg, and she pays him
(08:09):
to basically say anything. Trump's a murderer, Trump's a fascist,
Trump's a Nazi. And then all everybody else has to
do is say it's being reported that, but it's costing them.
You've wisened up.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
And what I see it all over the place is
people who care about looking good while doing evil.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
The Michael Barry Show.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Jeffy So is the owner of Amazon who bought the
Washington Post, stepped in and said, we're not endorsing Kamala Harris.
They wanted to. The LA Times has said we're not
endorsing anyone. It's not that they're endorsing Trump, They're not
endorsing anyone. Now USA Today has come out and said
we're not endorsing anyone. Of course, the Houston Chronicle, one
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of the hearst papers, much to the embarrassment of anyone
living in Houston who remembers that that was once a
fine paper, having to watch as they endorse Kamala Harris.
But here's what Jeff Bisos wrote in the annual public
surveys about trust and reputation. Journalists and the media have
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regularly fallen near the very bottom, often just above Congress.
But in this year's Gallup poll, we have managed to
fall even below Congress. Our profession is now the least
trusted of all. Something we are doing is clearly not working.
Let me give an analogy. Voting machines must meet two requirements.
(09:38):
They must count the vote accurately, and people must believe
they count the vote accurately. The second requirement is distinct
from and just as important as the first. Likewise, with newspapers,
we must be accurate, and we must be believed to
be accurate. It's a bitter pill to swallow, but we're
(09:59):
failing on the second requirement. Most people believe the media
is biased. Anyone who doesn't see this is paying scant
attention to reality, and those who fight reality lose. Reality
is an undefeated champion. It would be easy to blame
others for our long and continuing fall and credibility, and
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therefore decline an impact, but a victim mentality will not help.
Complaining is not a strategy. We must work harder to
control what we can control to increase our credibility. Presidential
endorsements do nothing to tip the scales of an election.
No undecided voters in Pennsylvania are going to say, I'm
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going to go with newspaper a's endorsement. None. What presidential
endorsements actually do is create a perception of bias, a
perception of non independence. Ending them is a principal decision,
and it is the right one. Eugene Meyer, publisher of
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the Washington Post from nineteen thirty three to nineteen forty six,
thought the same, and he was right by itself. Declining
to endorse presidential candidates is not enough to move us
very far up the trust scale, but it's a meaningful
step in the right direction. I wish we had made
the change earlier than we did, in a moment further
(11:25):
from the election and the emotions around it. That was
inadequate planning and not some intentional strategy. Lack of credibility
is not unique to the Post. Our brethren newspapers have
the same issue, and it's a problem not only for
media but also for the nation. Many people are turning
(11:47):
to off the cuff podcasts, inaccurate social media posts, and
other unverified news sources, which can quickly spread misinformation and
deepen divisions. The Washington Post and The New York Times
win prizes, but increasingly we talk only to a certain elite.
More and more we talk to ourselves. It wasn't always
(12:10):
this way. In the nineteen nineties, we achieved eighty percent
household penetration in the DC metro area. While I do
not and will not push my personal interest, I will
also not allow this paper to stay on autopilot and
fade into irrelevance, overtaken by unresearched podcasts and social media
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barbs not without a fight. It's too important. The stakes
are too high now more than ever. The world needs
a credible, trusted, independent voice. And where better for that
voice to originate than the original city of the most
important country in the world. To win this fight, we
will have to exercise new muscles. Some changes will be
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a return to the past, and some will be new inventions.
Criticism will be part and parcel of anything new. Of course,
this is the way of the world. None of this
will be easy, but it will be worth it. How
about the unresearched podcast line. How about the idea that
somehow what you're speaking is the truth because you have
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standards When you all trafficked in the Russia conspiracy theories
against Trump in twenty sixteen, when you all trafficked in
the COVID conspiracy theories of twenty twenty, when you lied
to people repeatedly, don't act like you have some standard
(13:39):
by which we should come to trust you, because we
don't and we won't because the people who work there,
and this is the way of general of journalism now,
they're not tellers of the truth, seekers of the truth.
They are activists. And the same way that people go
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into teaching at the high school or university level to
be an activist, the same way that people go into
being a staffer and then an elected official to be
an activist, the same way that people open nonprofits to
be an activist. So too, journalists became activists, and that's
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when they lost all their credibility. That's why nobody trusts
them any longer. Jd Vance went on Tim Dillon's podcast,
and we'll play some of that in a bit, but
he absolutely nailed it. Now, you probably don't know that
because there's been so much talk about the Trump rally
(14:47):
at Madison Square Garden, so much talk about Trump's appearance
on Rogan and that it had hit thirty three point
four million people within I don't know what it was
forty eight hours.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Well.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Jd Vance is set to go on Joe Rogan's podcast
tomorrow and that too will get a lot of attention
and a Jeff Beisos who grew up the way I did.
Respecting these newspapers, these August newspapers, A Washington Posted, a
New York Times, the the New York Times, and Washington Post.
(15:26):
You know, taglines with things like democracy dies in darkness.
All the news that's fit to print. And yet and
yet it's highway robbery. What they've gotten away with. It's banditry,
it's evil, it's dark, it's malicious. The lies that were
(15:49):
knowingly told, the things that were done to Trump, the
things that were said about Trump, the lies that were trafficked,
the lack of consequence to anyone, I delight in the
destruction of the legacy media. It is a fire they
(16:11):
started that has consumed them and will destroy them. And that,
in my Southern Baptist upbringing, is what we call justice,
what we call consequences. That's a good.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
You were a kid, you all admired, the champion marble shoot,
the fastest runner, big League ballplayers.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
The Tuckers, ritor Michael Berry, American winner Tamala Harris's campaign
is in complete free fall. They are moving money out
of Wisconsin, which was a battleground state, into Virginia, which
was not supposed to be. They have moved money out
(17:01):
of North Carolina into Virginia. They are in big trouble.
To put it into perspective, here is Obama boot liquor
David brook Brooks and he's talking. He's on PBS, and
he's talking about the fact that the messaging for the
(17:22):
Democrats is failing the whole. Donald Trump is a Nazi,
Donald Trump is a fascist, and he's saying that's not working.
Speaker 8 (17:33):
As a political maneuver. I don't think the argument on
fascism has been swaying voters. And I you know, when
I travel around the country talking to people about what
they want to hear about, they don't take the fascism
claim seriously for rightly or wrongly, because they think, well,
Donald Trump was already president. We didn't have a fascist
government then, and so to me, the focus should not
be on fascism for the Democrats, who should be on
(17:55):
the economy and on immigration. That's the economy and inflation
of the number one things that has moved moving people
away from her, and to me, if she focuses on fascism,
it will ri It'll please a lot of people who
are Democrats who really think the fascist threat is real.
And maybe they're right, I just as you are. We're
trying to get at the undecided voters that the low
interest voters, and I don't believe the fascists of margument
(18:16):
is a good way to close the campaign.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Let me tell you the story about chicken little who
would screen the Sky's falling. It may just be the
case that when you've claimed that everybody's a Nazi and
a fascist for so long, every time you're losing, and
even when the other side wins, we never end up
wearing the outfit that Kamala Harris was yesterday, which looks
(18:40):
strangely like a Hitler uniform. Then after a while, even
low information voters go, nah, no, that's not going to
work for me. Mike Pence's chief of staff, Nick Ayers
went on the record to call John Kelly's claims about
Trump and Hitler patently false. This is Pence's chief of staff.
(19:05):
He wrote on x I have avoided commenting on interrst
staff leaks or rumors, or even lies as it relates
to my time at the White House, but General Kelly's
comments regarding President Trump are too egregious to ignore. I
was with each of them more than most, and his
(19:27):
commentary is patently false. Speaking of former officials within the
Trump administration, former acting Ice Director under Trump, Tom Holman's
been a great guest on our show. Was on sixty
minutes and he was talking about mass deportation, and he
(19:50):
was talking about the fact that we have to remove
these people. This is what you must do. If you're
not going to remove these people, then more will come
and you don't have a nation. It's simply going to happen.
They're trying to make him out to be a bad guy,
but do you know you sometimes have to remove a
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father from the household to send him to prison when
he raped somebody or murder somebody. But that doesn't make
you a bad person. The rule of law must stand.
Justice is blind. Don't come here, period, end of story.
Here's that clip here.
Speaker 9 (20:32):
A lot of people say, you know, the talk of
a mass deportation is racist. It's a it's threatening to
immigrant community. It's not threatened to the immigrant community. It
should be threatening to the illegal immigrant community. But on
the heels of historic illegal immigration crisis, that has to
be done.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
What would the largest deportation in American history look like
to you?
Speaker 9 (20:56):
Well, let me tell you what it's not going to be. First,
it's not going to be a asked sweep of neighborhoods.
It's not going to be building concentration camps. I've read
it all. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
But if mass deportation is not going to be as
you said, massive sweeps and concentration camps.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
What is it.
Speaker 9 (21:12):
They'll be targeted arrest. We'll know who we're going to
rest where we're most likely to find them based on
numerous investigative processes.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
How many people would be deported?
Speaker 9 (21:23):
That's that's a You can't answer that question.
Speaker 8 (21:25):
Why not?
Speaker 9 (21:26):
How many officers have.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
Is there a written plan on this? If there's no memo,
If there's no plan, is this fully baked?
Speaker 4 (21:36):
We've done it before, but not a deportation at this scale.
Speaker 9 (21:40):
ICE is very good at these operations. This is what
they do.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
You know, you know how many warrants are served every
day for people who didn't show up the court, for
people who've committed more crimes. It's shocked you the number
they do, these big roundups. It has to be done,
It must be done. Why must it be done. Let's
(22:04):
take the case from right here in Houston. My listeners
on our flagship Katie H know everything about it. A
young lady named Jocelyn Nunger, eight twelve years old, was murdered.
She was tortured, murdered, and left dumped in the bayou
by two illegal aliens who had been freed by the
Biden Harris Craut. Alexis Nungeray. Her mother speaks in this
(22:26):
new ad for Trump, and it's a good one.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Sunday night, I asked her should not stay up super
late because of her coming to work with me in
the morning first to do her summer school. She said, okay.
I told her good night, and I love you. I
went to bed, not realizing that that was going to
be the last time I saw her. We're best friend,
(22:54):
we go speaking again. I woke up to notice she
wasn't in red. I'm in my heart trying not to
lose my mind because I don't know where she is.
I finally remembered her phone had a location on and
her phone was pinging just two minutes down the road,
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right behind the skatepark. I start driving to the direction
the phone was being pinged at, and I see a
couple of cop cars with lights on. I see yellow
tape and immediately my heart drops and sinks to the
bottom of my stomach. My daughter's hands and ankles were
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both bound. She was strangled to death, with left with
no pants, and I know in my heart she fought
incredibly hard. She was not going down without a fight.
We begin with two men we're learning our charge with
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capital murder.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Tonight, accused of killing a.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Twelve year old girl. Police eight.
Speaker 10 (24:04):
These men strangled her before dumping her into that creek.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Both men were in the country.
Speaker 10 (24:09):
Illegally, apprehended than released by border patrol less than three
weeks before Jocelyn's death. Man accused of killing Jocelyn Nungery
are affiliated with the gang known for brutal violence.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Kamala Harris was in charge of immigration in our borders.
If we had better border policies and not open borders
and not these catch and release policies, I truly believe
this all could have been premitted under her being vice
president of this country. My daughter's life was ripped away
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from her. She had her entire life ofhead of her.
My daughter is six feet in the ground based off
of policies as she allowed to keep. Kamala Harris did
have one job.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
And.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
She not only failed, not me, she failed my daughter.
She failed Joscelyn. You know she was only twelve. President
Trump reached out gave me his sincereous condolences as not
a former president, but just as a father someone who cares.
I believe Donald.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Trump needs to be back in office.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
I can at least know that my next child will
be safe in this country.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
Everybody needs to be woke.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
I just say more woke than left woke.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
There are a lot of things that play in this election,
and it's not until after a moment passes that you
realize that a moment has just passed, that something was
a play that you might not have seen. This would
appear to be a battle between Trump and Kamala Harris,
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but not really. The bigger battle is for the independent
individual versus the institutions. Today, a story emerged that Barbara Bush,
daughter of George W. Bush and granddaughter of Barbara Bush,
(26:29):
of the former First Lady, that she's in Pennsylvania campaigning
for Kamala Harris, and a tweet goes out from Liz Cheney,
Welcome to the sisterhood. We're all on the side of goodness.
You're on the side of people who wanted your father's
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sent to prison court martial. Those people didn't change. We
didn't change.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
You did.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
You're campaigning for the very people who would have hanged
your father if they had the opportunity. This is the change,
the realignment of Robert F. Kennedy Junior and Toolsey Gabbert
to our side in exchange for the establishment, Liz Cheney
(27:25):
and her daddy as a package deal because war pays
well and Daddy Warbucks needs her to help Kamala because
Trump's not a warmonger, but Kamala will be. Because that's
where the money's at, and where the money is being
spent is where we can keep some for ourselves. And
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that's really the point of it. All your boys are
just collateral damage in their wars. It's not about weapons
of mass destruction or freedom or fighting them there, so
we don't have to fight them here. This is no
longer a grand pitched battle for the American way or
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self governance or democracy or anything else that they might
tell you. We're on the wrong side as often as
we're on the right, and it has nothing to do
with a philosophical underpinning. Zelensky's getting wealthy and some others
are as well off of your dollars, and war is
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desperately sought because war is good business, you see, Because
war is good business, just as epidemics are good business.
When you're in the pharmaceutical business. Ask Pfizer how well
that turned out for them. And when you understand that
there are people, evil, evil people who will sacrifice this
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nation and burn it to the ground, feed your chill
into the crocodiles to make a bunch of money, which
is understandable. You know that to be the case. I
don't mind that these people are evil. That doesn't bother me.
(29:19):
I mind that they engage in their evil while claiming
to be protecting us, while claiming anyone who questions them
is a bad person, while claiming that we're naive, or
we want to kill Granny, or we love putin that.
Speaker 9 (29:43):
That's what I mind.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
What we're witnessing right now as well is the death
of the superstar establishment politician, the Bushes, the Romney's, the
mccains and all there the patina of respectability with which
they've gotten rich. Well I've had enough of it, all right,
(30:08):
for one have had enough. But the media, the media
is collapsing as well. Jd Vance will go on Joe
Rogan tomorrow, But here he is with Tim Dillon talking
about the fact that the media can trash me. This
is an interview I bet you didn't hear telling about Look,
(30:29):
I don't care what the media says about me any longer.
Those were years ago. I just don't care.
Speaker 11 (30:38):
A lot of people are warning that this will be
the final election and there will be no more democracy
if you and Trump are elected, There'll be no more democracy.
It'll be the final election. And these are like, these
are good people.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
This is Goldman.
Speaker 11 (30:53):
Sachs, this is the Cheney family, this is you know,
a lot of defense contractors.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
So the people with the best interests of the American people,
aslutely true, the people who really keep the American social
whatever respond.
Speaker 11 (31:06):
To that when you know, when you're you have a
multi ethnic family, and they go you and Donald Trump
are racist and hate different kinds of people because you've
criticized having an open border.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
Yeah, I mean, I can't help but roll my eyes
at it at this point. And there was probably a time,
honestly six seven years ago where I really cared, you know,
when my book came out, I really cared what the
media said about me. I just don't care anymore because
they're so obviously full of right. Like actually, if you look,
I mean, even just you talk to like working in
middle class Latino voters, they hate the open border even
(31:39):
more than like my family from rural Ohio and Kentucky
because they don't like having their wages undercut. That you know,
when the cartels are doing business in their communities, it's
the Latinos that are actually the most pissed off about it.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
So I just kind of roll my eyes at it.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
I think that, you know, you have to have a
certain sense of humor about American politics, and it's easy
to do when you're running against Kamala Harris and you're
you know, you're running with Donald Trump. Because as much
as he obviously I mean, look, I think they've done
more to him than any presidential candidate in my lifetime,
he still actually has an amazing sense of humor about
the whole thing. And oftentimes, like you know, I call
(32:16):
him obviously like every day at this point talking about
the campaign, but he always ends up cracking a joke.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
And I think it's in part because he.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
Knows, like, that's what's good for for me in that moment,
is we got to laugh about some of the stuff
or were gonna go crazy.
Speaker 11 (32:30):
Yeah, there there is. Now we're in October, We've got
about two weeks left. So now every single day there's
some article coming out in a publication that Donald Trump
said something Hitlarian or about Hitler or about like. So
it does seem to me that the hysteria is at
(32:50):
a fever pitch.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
It really is.
Speaker 11 (32:52):
What do you think about John Kelly, who did come
out and say the Trump is a fascist and this
is fascism and all of that.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
Well, first of all, the amount of stock the media
puts in a disgruntled ex employee. Mean, John Kelly was fired, right,
and look, you know, he served his country, but he
was fired, and he's pissed off about Trump over that, right,
And if you talk to the people who were in
the room when Trump allegedly said these things that he said,
even like Mike Pince's former chief of staff, are saying
it's totally made up.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
It's a total lie. But here's the really.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
Interesting thing, right, Yeah, three four years ago, the media
we're all calling John Kelly an evil racist for helping
to promote Donald Trump's border policies.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
And now it shows how thin this is.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
Right, Like Dick Cheney, who I legitimately think is the
single worst vice president easily of my lifetime. Right, right,
but effective, but well I'm effective at like destroying the country,
you know, And maybe that's why he's endorsing Kamala Harris.
It's like, finally somebody's come along who's been even worse
than I have.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Is Kamala Harris.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
But the fact that the media now pretends that he's
like some hero of human rights.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
The guy was a disaster. I mean, we.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
Invaded Iraq, we invaded you know, the twenty year quagmire
in Afghanistan. All of these Americans who lost their lives,
who lost their limbs, that was because of very stupid leadership.
And now we're going to forget about it because the
media hates Donald Trump. It's the most insane thing I've
seen in politics and
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