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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Luck and load change to Michael Very show is on
the air.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
America first includes all Americans, regardless of their race, their
gender orientation.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Why don't deliver these United States where the one to
needed work.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Let the rest of the world help.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Us forrchchange and let's rebuild the Mary first, Ah is
rigser fun far who's let who has been cursed? There's
things to be done all over the world, but let's
rebuild them Mary First.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Our message to Black Americans tonight is this, we want
you what we want for every American. Safe neighborhoods, good jobs,
clean streets, a country where you are judged based on
the content of your character, not the color of your
skin or your political beliefs.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
On heal and watching bes who's in charge of it all?
Speaker 5 (01:16):
God?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Let's the army got this aliberty, that got the risk
of it all?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
E posision of the back and away. Freedom isn't stuck in.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Let's be out of areck, get back.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
On the track, and let's rebuild and marry the first.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Our message to gay Americans tonight is this, You're free
to marry who you want, if you want, without the government.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Standing in your way.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
On small but that doesn't mean that boys get to
compete with girls and girls' sports, or you do genital
mutilation and chemical castration.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
On our children.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
I don't reliver right.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
These United States were the ones who need it the most.
You think I'm blowing to smoke bars ad ain, no dot,
I'm a twenty to fifty years coast code.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
If you get ahead in the United States with your
own hard work, your own commitment, your own dedication, and
that you know what, you are free to speak your
mind at every step of the way.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
That is the American dream.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
That is what we are running too, and that is
what we get when we send Donald Trump back to
the White House.
Speaker 7 (02:37):
You may not have heard this story because well, Trump
in the garbage truck rightfully dominated the news cycle. There
was Biden biten babies. Just google it and you'll see
for yourself. I'm not exaggerating. That's not even the biggest story.
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I don't talk a lot about the fraud and voter
integrity and things I happen to know, because one thing
we've learned, and this has proven out, is if our
people feel that there is not election integrity, they don't
show up to vote. And so unfortunately, election fraud has
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two effects. Number One, in a close election, it can
take some of the Democrat who was losing and flip
them to the winner. But number two, it can create
a situation where they don't need to cheat because people
perceive that there will be cheating, and then they don't vote.
Study after study has shown that if you require voter
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ID and you have clear regulations on an election to
ensure election integrity, you actually get more voters. If people
think their vote's going to count, it turns out they're
more likely to vote.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
The flip is true.
Speaker 7 (04:00):
So one of the things that I that keeps me
from talking more and more about voter integrity because guess what,
there's nothing you can do about voter integrity.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Sitting around worrying.
Speaker 7 (04:09):
About it and talking about it incessantly will mean that
many of you won't vote, and.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I can't have that.
Speaker 7 (04:16):
But there is an interesting issue in the state of Colorado.
Do you remember the name Jena Jenna Griswold. She's the
Secretary of State Democrat Secretary of State in Colorado. She's
the one that kicked Trump off the ballot. She said, well,
he's a Nazi, and because he's a Nazi, he can't
be on the ballot because he might win and that
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would be bad. You remember that it went to the
Supreme Court. Her and the Secretary of State in Maine
went to the Supreme Court, and they said, you can't
do that, you idiots. Well, let's talk about who Jenna
Griswold is the same woman. It turns out that in
the state of California, state in Colorado, they quote unquote
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accident idently posted the passwords to the voting machines, which
would mean if you had that password, you could break
into the voting machine and change the results. This is
the story from Channel nine News out of Denver.
Speaker 8 (05:18):
Passwords for Colorado's voting systems were posted online for anyone
to see for months if you.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Knew where to look.
Speaker 8 (05:26):
Democratic Secretary Saint Jenna Griswol's office apparently.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Posted them online by accident.
Speaker 8 (05:31):
Griswold's office found out last Thursday and had not told
the county clerks who actually run elections. Then the Colorado
Republican Party went public today demanding the Griswolds secure those
voting machines.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Here's Marshall Zellinger.
Speaker 9 (05:45):
The Colorado Secretary of State's office is required to maintain
a spreadsheet of certified voting systems for each county. That's
this list at the bottom of any spreadsheet. You can
have multiple tabs. You can also hide a tab, but
if you post the rosspread sheet to a public website,
apparently anyone can also unhide the tab. This happened and
apparently revealed one set of passwords for voting computers in Colorado.
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Next confirm this with the Secretary of State's office today,
but we learned about it this morning in an email
blast from the Colorado Republican Party. The passwords had been
up for months without it being known, and some but
not all, were current and active.
Speaker 10 (06:23):
There are two passwords to get into any voting component,
along with physical access.
Speaker 9 (06:28):
Democratic Colorado Secretary of State Jennt Griswold explained how each
computer component requires two passwords to gain access. The ones
on the website were just one of the passwords, and
it requires in person access by multiple people, which is
tracked by twenty four to seven video recording and badge
IDs that record who has gained access.
Speaker 10 (06:47):
We have layers of security and outut of just an
abundance of caution. Half staff in the field changing passwords
looking at access lags.
Speaker 11 (06:55):
The truth is is this a concern yes? Is it
being minted yes? Does this mean that all of the
computers are connected to the Internet and that votes are
being flipped No.
Speaker 9 (07:08):
Matt Crane is the former Republican of Rapaho County Clerk
and current executive director of the County Clerk's Association. He
admits this is not great news, but not something that
will compromise anyone's vote.
Speaker 11 (07:19):
I want to stress her this as an all Republicans,
but you will have some Republicans who will use this
for political and financial purposes, whereas we as clerks, we
will say in the truth and honoring our oath of
office to serve to serve our constituents in a truthful
and honest manner.
Speaker 7 (07:34):
Now again, I don't want folks to get bogged down
and not show up to vote, because we know that
keeps our people from voting, and if you don't vote,
they don't need to cheat.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
That's the fact.
Speaker 7 (07:48):
One hundred and sixty eight thousand duplicate votes yesterday in Michigan.
We're disallowed because it's not like with run of McDaniel
Romney or whatever. Not like with in twenty twenty we
got Laura Trump in there and she's fighting.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
One hundred and.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
Sixty eight thousand duplicate votes were kicked out yesterday. We
got to show up and vote and let them do
their jobs.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
An undocumented immigrant is not a criminals. The Michael Very Show.
Speaker 10 (08:17):
We have to correct course in this conversation.
Speaker 7 (08:21):
Wa Barack Obama called you a bitter clinger. Hillary Clinton
called you a deplorable Kamala Harris has called you a
Nazi and a fascist. Joe Biden just calls you straight
up garbage. But you're not garbage. Earlier today I asked listeners,
are you garbage? Is your life garbage? And this is
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what folks had to say, all right for the.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Phone lines, Steve, are you garbage? As Joe Biden says, Joe,
here come.
Speaker 12 (08:55):
To Michael who was able to work his family, the
work when his wonderful wife. I have a great job,
able to pay back on my debt of society only
by the great God. I am not.
Speaker 7 (09:14):
Garbage, Steve, God bless you. I believe in redemption. Takes
a strong man to say what you just said and
to do what you've done. Walt Walt, are you garbage?
Speaker 8 (09:28):
No?
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Sure, I am not garbage. I am a Christian, I'm
an American by birth and Textion by choice. I love my neighbors,
my family, and I'm a great grandfather.
Speaker 7 (09:40):
I bet you are a great great grandfather. God bless you,
Walt David. Joe Biden says you are garbage. Are you garbage?
Speaker 13 (09:51):
God?
Speaker 5 (09:52):
No, I'm not garbage, Michael.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
I believe in God CON's country, this great country that
we we live in, family values.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
I love being here. I'm a capitalist and we don't
need what we're getting.
Speaker 14 (10:09):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
No, Amen, thank you for the call. Christy.
Speaker 7 (10:14):
Joe Biden says you are garbage. Are you garbage?
Speaker 1 (10:21):
No, Sir, I am not.
Speaker 15 (10:22):
I am made in the image of God.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I am not garbage.
Speaker 15 (10:25):
But I do want to commend Joe Biden for the
one good thing he's done as president. He gave millions
of Americans that are struggling a really cheap costume idea
for Halloween.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
Amen to that, well said Christy. Thank you, sweetheart.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Frank.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
Joe Biden says you are garbage. Are you garbage?
Speaker 5 (10:46):
I am not garbage.
Speaker 13 (10:48):
I drive an eighteen wheeler down the road haul in
America's freak to the American people. The only garbage we
have is come across the southern border and it's being
brought in by the sanitation engineers in the White House.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
You got well, said Frank, living up to the very
high standard I have, which has been earned by eighteen
wheel drivers over the years. And I have maintained that
eighteen wheeler drivers have a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Of time to think while they're driving.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
They're not fidgeting with their phone and not rushing to
get into a meeting that I'm on zoom calls, and
they use that time to really think about who and
what they are and how they feel about the world
and structure their arguments. Of Donald Donald, you're on the
Michael Barry Show. Joe Biden says that you are garbage?
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Are you garbage?
Speaker 16 (11:40):
I am not garbage. I'm a garbage man. And the
whole two hundred and fifty two hundred and fifty million
people in this country are all garbage men. We pack
it up, we put it out on time to day,
it's scheduled. Are garbage collectors. They're not garbage men. They're trashed.
They're garbage men, but in a sense they come with
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their garbage truck, pick it up and put the boxes
right back down right where they were. We're all professional
garbage collectors, and we put it out for them. And
it's a whole country of people living and paying their
bills and paying their mortgage because they drive a garbage truck.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
Are you garbage because Joe Biden says you are Scott.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Joe Biden says you are garbage. Are you garbage?
Speaker 17 (12:23):
The God that created our universe, it's the vast universe.
Speaker 13 (12:27):
We all live in, also took the time out so
knit me together in my mother's room.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
And I'll tell.
Speaker 13 (12:35):
You let those of those together, because our God doesn't
start any vast projects with half aasque ideas.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
Amen, Donna. Joe Biden says you are garbage. Are you garbage?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
No, Michael, I am not garbage. I am a person
who has a father, the King.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
Amen, Well said Grant. Joe Biden says you are garbage.
Are you garbage? No, sir.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
God saw it fit to keep me alive for the
last ten years after a battle with septic shock, and
he gave me an innovative and creative mind to employ
about a dozen employees that all make a good living
in this crappy economy.
Speaker 7 (13:27):
In what industry hearing aids no good for you.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
You know Grat eight locations here in Texas.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
You know Grant.
Speaker 7 (13:39):
When I hear a story like that, I think to myself.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
God wasn't ready for you yet.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
He put you back in the game because he's going
to throw you another pass, or hand you the ball,
or he's got something else slated for you to accomplish.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Marcus Joe Biden. He says you are trash. You are garbage.
Are you garbage?
Speaker 17 (14:07):
I am as Houston firefighters.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
I might be a little bit white trash, but I'm
not garbage.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
God bless you. You might like your girls a little
bit on the you might like your women a little
on the trashy side.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
I wanted to play that today, but Ramon said we
had to stay on brand with the Merle Haggard, and
so we're going to Janelle. Joe Biden, the President of
the United States, says that you are garbage.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Are you garbage?
Speaker 4 (14:37):
God?
Speaker 7 (14:39):
No, I'm a born again Marrigan Christian and I am
not garbage. God bless you, Mike Joe Biden. The Democrats
say that you are garbage. They prove it again and
again and again, and now they just out and out
say it. They've called you deplorables, they've called you bitter clean,
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they've called you everything in the book.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Are you garbage?
Speaker 5 (15:06):
No, sir, No, sir, I'm not garbage.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
I'm not a Nazi sympathizer or any other any other
crazy thing.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
That comes out of their pie hole.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
What I am is a god fearing Texas loving Americans,
and that's all that I'll ever be.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
Johnny Joe Biden says that you are garbage? Are you garbage,
Ago Mexican trash, garbage, Because I'd rather be that than
they have common with.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Joe Biden became mentally impaired with the Michael.
Speaker 12 (15:42):
Perry Kamala was born that way.
Speaker 7 (15:47):
You know, It's funny, that's how an organic discussion develops.
Yesterday morning, I was having a fit. I'd read this
report that Hunters are not voting, which you want your
guns taken away by the Democrats because they will, and
Christians are not voting, and I started, I started into
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this very very harsh, direct criticism of white pastors. And
then I got an email on a pastor who does
preach about civic involvement, and in fact he tells people
who he's voting for and why. And I went home
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last night and one of you had sent me an
email of this guy's sermon, And I went home last
night and I started listening to it, and I tracked
him down and I spoke to him earlier today and
I'm going to share that with you in just a moment.
And it was, you know, we can focus on all
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that's bad out there, who's not voting, but we got
a remember to We got to remember to applaud the
people who are, and that's you. You're not garbage, You're
good people. You keep the trains running, you keep the
children raised, you keep our community safe. I talked about
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the fact that this Sunday will be the last chance
for the church, for the pastors to talk to their
flock about the importance of this. And I talked about
the fact that black churches have our souls to the poles.
Used to be a pastor named Manson Johnson in Houston,
and he would do what they call the roll to
the polls. He would preach his sermon finish early you
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would go out to the bus buses that were waiting.
They would roll you to the polls early voting, last
Sunday of early voting. They rolled you to the pole.
You would cast your vote and come back and there
was a big meal that the church provided for you.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Afterwards. Everybody in the church voted.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
And oh, by the way, what Pastor Manson Johnson would do,
which I don't think violates the law, by the way,
is he had what was known as a pony, that
is a list that tells you how to vote, and
they he would walk down the list. He walked down
the road and give people that was the these are
your recommended candidates. I know this because I was a candidate,
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and I know this because he had endorsed my opponent.
So we would walk behind him and pick those up
and give them my note. And he didn't feel comfortable
taking away what I gave him. But I know what happens,
and I said, white pastors won't do that. White pastors
are scared, so demand of your pastor that they speak
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on the issues of the day. So I received from
you a number of folcus, one called Cornerstone Chapel. But
one of the guys I heard about, or one of
the sermons that was sent to me, was by a
pastor at First Odessa in Odessa, Texas, and here's just
a little clip of that.
Speaker 14 (19:04):
If we want to stand for morality, we want to
stand for godliness, and we want to see some good
things happen in America.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
If Christians do not vote.
Speaker 14 (19:12):
You can hang it up because it ain't going to happen.
It happens because people will go to that election box.
So we have two people to choose from. And I
want to say there should be no confusion.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Whatsoever really about who to vote for. And in fact
I will tell you.
Speaker 14 (19:28):
And by the time I finished this message, I think
you will understand it very clearly that this should be
the easiest, most clear cut decision on who to vote
for that we've been handed down to us in a generation.
In fact, I call it a no brainer because these
two parties, who I've mentioned a moment ago, are not
morally equal.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
They are not morally equal.
Speaker 14 (19:52):
What we have witness come forth from the Democrat Party
is far more than changing morals. It is demonic. It
is anti God through and through, and thus evil and demonic.
They promote everything that God hates.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
If you do not believe in.
Speaker 14 (20:10):
Child sacrifice, then this election is a no brainer. If
you do not believe in the undermining of the family.
The election is a no brainer. If you believe that
the Bible teaches that there are only two genders, male
and female, it's a no brainer. If you believe that
the brainwashing, sexualization, and mutilation of our.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Children is wrong, it's a no brainer.
Speaker 14 (20:35):
The Democrat Party is anti God and stands for all
that God hates, and it's a no brainer.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
You say, pastor prove that.
Speaker 14 (20:42):
I can prove that because Kamala Harris proved that at
her own rally. When someone shouted Jesus's Lord at her
own rally, she stopped intentionally and said, you're at the
wrong rally with a laugh.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
There's no joke in that.
Speaker 14 (21:01):
You don't laugh when somebody says Jesus's Lord, and you
don't scorn when somebody says Jesus's Lord. That fact alone
should make the skin crawl on every Bible believing Christian
in America.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Right there, it's a no brainer.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
So a listener sent me that and said, you need
to listen to this guy didn't give me the name.
I clicked on it last night. I went home and
I start listening to his sermon. It was an hour
and forty minutes. I say so, I skipped ahead, and
I said, let me just let me just sit to
the meat of this. So let's say forty five minutes
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in I start listening. So interesting thing when you go
to the website for the church, when you go on
the YouTube page. Unlike some folks that you know in public,
this wasn't the Byron McWilliams show. In fact, I had
to wait. I had to search to find out the
pastor's name. There's a church in town. The motto used
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to friends. Pastor's friend of mine. But we used to
kid with him because the motto was where Christ is
the main attraction. And I used to say, yeah, but pastor,
your name's bigger and his on the program. This guy's
not about Byron McWilliams. This guy's about the word. And
I can guarantee you he loses some members out of
saying that. But he's not looking at him as consumers.
He's actually ministering a pastoring to his flock, and I
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love it.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
He's our guest coming up.
Speaker 9 (22:29):
Yeah, God, allow me to introduce myself.
Speaker 16 (22:32):
My name is Mitor Michael Berry.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Genius.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Well.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
Pastor Byron McWilliams is my kind of guy. A listener
was kind enough to say, Hey, here's a pastor who
will speak out.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Here's a sermon where he does it.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
Byron McWilliams, in my opinion, is living up to God's
commandment to priests the Word. And you know, I've heard
churches refer to congregants as customers.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I find that very disturbing. I think they've lost the plot.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
So I love the fact that I had to go
looking for who he is, which means that his name's
not the biggest one on the marquee. It's almost as
if the Bible and the Word and salvation and the
sinners seeking salvation are the primary objective. But let's welcome
him to the show. Pastor Byron McWilliams.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Welcome, Hey, Michael Berry. How are you doing, sir?
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I'm good so.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
Knowing that it will probably offend some people, maybe cost
you some members, why do you speak out on why
people should vote and how they should vote and what
the issues are facing Christians in America to day?
Speaker 17 (23:47):
Why do that, man, Michael? That's the question right there. Ultimately,
I would say that it goes back to the time
that Donald Trump ran for the first time, and He'll
Clinton was the opponent, and at the last debate they had,
Hillary Clinton stood flat footed and said she's going to
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aboord a baby all the way up to the end
of nine months. And I stepped their praying and I think, God,
how do you want me to address this as a pastor?
Because my people need to hear from their pastor. And
I took both platforms at that time looked at him.
The Democratic platform looked like it had been written kind
of by the Antichrist, and the Republican platform looked like
it had been almost a Sunday School lesson because the
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referenced God so much. I brought those into the pulpit
with me, and I preached a message using those the
diconomy of those, and looking at that, I prayed about
what do I need to do here, because I don't
want to offend unnecessarily. But what I had found is
that if you preach the word of God, you're going
to offend people.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
That's just the bottom line.
Speaker 17 (24:49):
And so I prayed about when God, if he wanted
me to preach a message like that, this go round
and this last Sunday is when He gave me the
message to preach, and then God calls the shots. I
can't do any thing other than what I believe he
desires me to do. Nobody else tells me what to preach.
It's just I go to him, I pray, I seek
God's leadership, and then I step in and hopefully can
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deliver exactly the message that He desires me to preach.
So that's that's really how it came about. I've never
really shied away from tough subjects. You said something earlier
about being fearless. No, there is fear involved, but the
fear cannot be allowed to stop me from speaking and
saying what God wants me to say.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Do you get complaints?
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Yeah, yeah I do. It is a.
Speaker 17 (25:40):
We live in West Texas, and I will tell you
that West Texas is probably one of the reddest places
in Texas, and I love that.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
But I don't think it would matter where I live.
Speaker 17 (25:49):
I'm going to preach the word, and if I was
in Southeast Texas still I would preach there. I've preached
the same way when I live there. People do complain
at times, but people who know me, they know my
heart and they know that my desires to lift up
and exalt the Lord Genus above everything else. And uh,
and I just feel strongly that if the church is
silent during these perilous times, if the church is silent
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when we see all of the evil that is going on,
we we I'll stand before God, and I will I
will have to give an account of why I did
not speak up and why I did not warn the
sheep whom are under my responsibility as their shepherd. That's so, yeah,
I get complaints, but the complaints are not going to
stop me from.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Doing what God wants me to do.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
I note your involvement and leadership, rather impressive resume of
service and leadership in the Southern Baptist Convention and the
International Baptist Church. It's it's obviously you are well respected
among among ministers. When you when you look at that
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service and you look at churches across the country, obviously
a lot of pastors.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Are not willing to do what you're willing to do.
Why do you think that is?
Speaker 5 (27:13):
That's a great question. I thought about that.
Speaker 17 (27:18):
I think fear is certainly the biggest issue for most
and I struggle with that, okay, because I'll tell you why.
I think if I'm going to let fear stop me
from speaking the word of God, that's not really fear
it's cowardice and I can't stand that. I think there's
a fear that some pastors had a have of losing members,
and let's just call it what it is. They don't
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want to lose somebody the tides and gives to the
church because there's budgetary issues. But again, my God does
not just own a cattle on a thousand hills. He
owns a cattle on every hill, and he can provide,
and he does provide. And then I think there is
the fear in the mind of some that they're dishonoring
the Lord by standing up and speaking, you know, and
what they call politics, I think it's dishonoring to the
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Lord to not stand up and.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Not speak truth regardless. And that's our calling.
Speaker 17 (28:06):
And you know, for the first time in American history,
you have the pulpits in America that are practically silent,
and world history has an American history has never had
silent pastors out there, you know, just just sitting and
watching that which is devastating to our culture, devastating to
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the generations that.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
Are coming behind us.
Speaker 17 (28:28):
And they're going to sit by quietly and watch this
take place and not stand up and speak out against it.
And seek to lead God's people to deeper, to deeper
holiness toward in honor of Him. I just can't abide
by that. So I think it's fear. I think it's
fear of losing members. I think it's that big word fear.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
You know.
Speaker 7 (28:46):
I genuinely believe, not just a political comment, genuinely believe
it is much deeper than that, that there is a
move by the devil to silence the church. And I
think that a number of people have sup hum to that.
And I'll tell you, I don't know your finances. I
don't know your church's finances. I will tell you when
I see these churches constantly in the middle of a
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building fund, constantly in the middle of some fund to
enrich the pastor constantly trying to do something bigger. You know,
there was a prayer of job as Era where everybody
wanted to expand their lands, and I found that to
be very, very unbiblical. But just like at the individual level,
just like with the United States Treasury, when you take
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on all these debts, you put yourself in a situation.
I tell young people this today, when they get their
first job, do not go least of BMW or a
Mercedes and take out a loan on a big house.
You've just started your job, because then you can't leave
when you're compromised, and I think that that has affected
a lot of the church. So I have from a
distance an appreciation for what.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
You do and how you do it.
Speaker 7 (29:52):
But I will tell you that the highest compliment I
can give you is that you from when we talked
last night, you talk about shepherd your sheep and tending
your flock, and I love that about you. Pastor Byron McWilliams.
First Odessa, that you might be a shining example of
what the church should be. Oh els least for good
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thank you, and good night,
Luck and load change to Michael Very show is on
the air.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
America first includes all Americans, regardless of their race, their
gender orientation.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Why don't deliver these United States where the one to
needed work.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Let the rest of the world help.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Us forrchchange and let's rebuild the Mary first, Ah is
rigser fun far who's let who has been cursed? There's
things to be done all over the world, but let's
rebuild them Mary First.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Our message to Black Americans tonight is this, we want
you what we want for every American. Safe neighborhoods, good jobs,
clean streets, a country where you are judged based on
the content of your character, not the color of your
skin or your political beliefs.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
On heal and watching bes who's in charge of it all?
Speaker 5 (01:16):
God?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Let's the army got this aliberty, that got the risk
of it all?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
E posision of the back and away. Freedom isn't stuck in.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Let's be out of areck, get back.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
On the track, and let's rebuild and marry the first.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Our message to gay Americans tonight is this, You're free
to marry who you want, if you want, without the government.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Standing in your way.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
On small but that doesn't mean that boys get to
compete with girls and girls' sports, or you do genital
mutilation and chemical castration.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
On our children.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
I don't reliver right.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
These United States were the ones who need it the most.
You think I'm blowing to smoke bars ad ain, no dot,
I'm a twenty to fifty years coast code.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
If you get ahead in the United States with your
own hard work, your own commitment, your own dedication, and
that you know what, you are free to speak your
mind at every step of the way.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
That is the American dream.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
That is what we are running too, and that is
what we get when we send Donald Trump back to
the White House.
Speaker 7 (02:37):
You may not have heard this story because well, Trump
in the garbage truck rightfully dominated the news cycle. There
was Biden biten babies. Just google it and you'll see
for yourself. I'm not exaggerating. That's not even the biggest story.
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I don't talk a lot about the fraud and voter
integrity and things I happen to know, because one thing
we've learned, and this has proven out, is if our
people feel that there is not election integrity, they don't
show up to vote. And so unfortunately, election fraud has
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two effects. Number One, in a close election, it can
take some of the Democrat who was losing and flip
them to the winner. But number two, it can create
a situation where they don't need to cheat because people
perceive that there will be cheating, and then they don't vote.
Study after study has shown that if you require voter
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ID and you have clear regulations on an election to
ensure election integrity, you actually get more voters. If people
think their vote's going to count, it turns out they're
more likely to vote.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
The flip is true.
Speaker 7 (04:00):
So one of the things that I that keeps me
from talking more and more about voter integrity because guess what,
there's nothing you can do about voter integrity.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Sitting around worrying.
Speaker 7 (04:09):
About it and talking about it incessantly will mean that
many of you won't vote, and.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I can't have that.
Speaker 7 (04:16):
But there is an interesting issue in the state of Colorado.
Do you remember the name Jena Jenna Griswold. She's the
Secretary of State Democrat Secretary of State in Colorado. She's
the one that kicked Trump off the ballot. She said, well,
he's a Nazi, and because he's a Nazi, he can't
be on the ballot because he might win and that
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would be bad. You remember that it went to the
Supreme Court. Her and the Secretary of State in Maine
went to the Supreme Court, and they said, you can't
do that, you idiots. Well, let's talk about who Jenna
Griswold is the same woman. It turns out that in
the state of California, state in Colorado, they quote unquote
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accident idently posted the passwords to the voting machines, which
would mean if you had that password, you could break
into the voting machine and change the results. This is
the story from Channel nine News out of Denver.
Speaker 8 (05:18):
Passwords for Colorado's voting systems were posted online for anyone
to see for months if you.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Knew where to look.
Speaker 8 (05:26):
Democratic Secretary Saint Jenna Griswol's office apparently.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Posted them online by accident.
Speaker 8 (05:31):
Griswold's office found out last Thursday and had not told
the county clerks who actually run elections. Then the Colorado
Republican Party went public today demanding the Griswolds secure those
voting machines.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Here's Marshall Zellinger.
Speaker 9 (05:45):
The Colorado Secretary of State's office is required to maintain
a spreadsheet of certified voting systems for each county. That's
this list at the bottom of any spreadsheet. You can
have multiple tabs. You can also hide a tab, but
if you post the rosspread sheet to a public website,
apparently anyone can also unhide the tab. This happened and
apparently revealed one set of passwords for voting computers in Colorado.
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Next confirm this with the Secretary of State's office today,
but we learned about it this morning in an email
blast from the Colorado Republican Party. The passwords had been
up for months without it being known, and some but
not all, were current and active.
Speaker 10 (06:23):
There are two passwords to get into any voting component,
along with physical access.
Speaker 9 (06:28):
Democratic Colorado Secretary of State Jennt Griswold explained how each
computer component requires two passwords to gain access. The ones
on the website were just one of the passwords, and
it requires in person access by multiple people, which is
tracked by twenty four to seven video recording and badge
IDs that record who has gained access.
Speaker 10 (06:47):
We have layers of security and outut of just an
abundance of caution. Half staff in the field changing passwords
looking at access lags.
Speaker 11 (06:55):
The truth is is this a concern yes? Is it
being minted yes? Does this mean that all of the
computers are connected to the Internet and that votes are
being flipped No.
Speaker 9 (07:08):
Matt Crane is the former Republican of Rapaho County Clerk
and current executive director of the County Clerk's Association. He
admits this is not great news, but not something that
will compromise anyone's vote.
Speaker 11 (07:19):
I want to stress her this as an all Republicans,
but you will have some Republicans who will use this
for political and financial purposes, whereas we as clerks, we
will say in the truth and honoring our oath of
office to serve to serve our constituents in a truthful
and honest manner.
Speaker 7 (07:34):
Now again, I don't want folks to get bogged down
and not show up to vote, because we know that
keeps our people from voting, and if you don't vote,
they don't need to cheat.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
That's the fact.
Speaker 7 (07:48):
One hundred and sixty eight thousand duplicate votes yesterday in Michigan.
We're disallowed because it's not like with run of McDaniel
Romney or whatever. Not like with in twenty twenty we
got Laura Trump in there and she's fighting.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
One hundred and.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
Sixty eight thousand duplicate votes were kicked out yesterday. We
got to show up and vote and let them do
their jobs.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
An undocumented immigrant is not a criminals. The Michael Very Show.
Speaker 10 (08:17):
We have to correct course in this conversation.
Speaker 7 (08:21):
Wa Barack Obama called you a bitter clinger. Hillary Clinton
called you a deplorable Kamala Harris has called you a
Nazi and a fascist. Joe Biden just calls you straight
up garbage. But you're not garbage. Earlier today I asked listeners,
are you garbage? Is your life garbage? And this is
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what folks had to say, all right for the.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Phone lines, Steve, are you garbage? As Joe Biden says, Joe,
here come.
Speaker 12 (08:55):
To Michael who was able to work his family, the
work when his wonderful wife. I have a great job,
able to pay back on my debt of society only
by the great God. I am not.
Speaker 7 (09:14):
Garbage, Steve, God bless you. I believe in redemption. Takes
a strong man to say what you just said and
to do what you've done. Walt Walt, are you garbage?
Speaker 8 (09:28):
No?
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Sure, I am not garbage. I am a Christian, I'm
an American by birth and Textion by choice. I love my neighbors,
my family, and I'm a great grandfather.
Speaker 7 (09:40):
I bet you are a great great grandfather. God bless you,
Walt David. Joe Biden says you are garbage. Are you garbage?
Speaker 13 (09:51):
God?
Speaker 5 (09:52):
No, I'm not garbage, Michael.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
I believe in God CON's country, this great country that
we we live in, family values.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
I love being here. I'm a capitalist and we don't
need what we're getting.
Speaker 14 (10:09):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
No, Amen, thank you for the call. Christy.
Speaker 7 (10:14):
Joe Biden says you are garbage. Are you garbage?
Speaker 1 (10:21):
No, Sir, I am not.
Speaker 15 (10:22):
I am made in the image of God.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I am not garbage.
Speaker 15 (10:25):
But I do want to commend Joe Biden for the
one good thing he's done as president. He gave millions
of Americans that are struggling a really cheap costume idea
for Halloween.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
Amen to that, well said Christy. Thank you, sweetheart.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Frank.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
Joe Biden says you are garbage. Are you garbage?
Speaker 5 (10:46):
I am not garbage.
Speaker 13 (10:48):
I drive an eighteen wheeler down the road haul in
America's freak to the American people. The only garbage we
have is come across the southern border and it's being
brought in by the sanitation engineers in the White House.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
You got well, said Frank, living up to the very
high standard I have, which has been earned by eighteen
wheel drivers over the years. And I have maintained that
eighteen wheeler drivers have a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Of time to think while they're driving.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
They're not fidgeting with their phone and not rushing to
get into a meeting that I'm on zoom calls, and
they use that time to really think about who and
what they are and how they feel about the world
and structure their arguments. Of Donald Donald, you're on the
Michael Barry Show. Joe Biden says that you are garbage?
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Are you garbage?
Speaker 16 (11:40):
I am not garbage. I'm a garbage man. And the
whole two hundred and fifty two hundred and fifty million
people in this country are all garbage men. We pack
it up, we put it out on time to day,
it's scheduled. Are garbage collectors. They're not garbage men. They're trashed.
They're garbage men, but in a sense they come with
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their garbage truck, pick it up and put the boxes
right back down right where they were. We're all professional
garbage collectors, and we put it out for them. And
it's a whole country of people living and paying their
bills and paying their mortgage because they drive a garbage truck.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
Are you garbage because Joe Biden says you are Scott.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Joe Biden says you are garbage. Are you garbage?
Speaker 17 (12:23):
The God that created our universe, it's the vast universe.
Speaker 13 (12:27):
We all live in, also took the time out so
knit me together in my mother's room.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
And I'll tell.
Speaker 13 (12:35):
You let those of those together, because our God doesn't
start any vast projects with half aasque ideas.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
Amen, Donna. Joe Biden says you are garbage. Are you garbage?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
No, Michael, I am not garbage. I am a person
who has a father, the King.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
Amen, Well said Grant. Joe Biden says you are garbage.
Are you garbage? No, sir.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
God saw it fit to keep me alive for the
last ten years after a battle with septic shock, and
he gave me an innovative and creative mind to employ
about a dozen employees that all make a good living
in this crappy economy.
Speaker 7 (13:27):
In what industry hearing aids no good for you.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
You know Grat eight locations here in Texas.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
You know Grant.
Speaker 7 (13:39):
When I hear a story like that, I think to myself.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
God wasn't ready for you yet.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
He put you back in the game because he's going
to throw you another pass, or hand you the ball,
or he's got something else slated for you to accomplish.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Marcus Joe Biden. He says you are trash. You are garbage.
Are you garbage?
Speaker 17 (14:07):
I am as Houston firefighters.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
I might be a little bit white trash, but I'm
not garbage.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
God bless you. You might like your girls a little
bit on the you might like your women a little
on the trashy side.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
I wanted to play that today, but Ramon said we
had to stay on brand with the Merle Haggard, and
so we're going to Janelle. Joe Biden, the President of
the United States, says that you are garbage.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Are you garbage?
Speaker 4 (14:37):
God?
Speaker 7 (14:39):
No, I'm a born again Marrigan Christian and I am
not garbage. God bless you, Mike Joe Biden. The Democrats
say that you are garbage. They prove it again and
again and again, and now they just out and out
say it. They've called you deplorables, they've called you bitter clean,
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they've called you everything in the book.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Are you garbage?
Speaker 5 (15:06):
No, sir, No, sir, I'm not garbage.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
I'm not a Nazi sympathizer or any other any other
crazy thing.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
That comes out of their pie hole.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
What I am is a god fearing Texas loving Americans,
and that's all that I'll ever be.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
Johnny Joe Biden says that you are garbage? Are you garbage,
Ago Mexican trash, garbage, Because I'd rather be that than
they have common with.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Joe Biden became mentally impaired with the Michael.
Speaker 12 (15:42):
Perry Kamala was born that way.
Speaker 7 (15:47):
You know, It's funny, that's how an organic discussion develops.
Yesterday morning, I was having a fit. I'd read this
report that Hunters are not voting, which you want your
guns taken away by the Democrats because they will, and
Christians are not voting, and I started, I started into
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this very very harsh, direct criticism of white pastors. And
then I got an email on a pastor who does
preach about civic involvement, and in fact he tells people
who he's voting for and why. And I went home
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last night and one of you had sent me an
email of this guy's sermon, And I went home last
night and I started listening to it, and I tracked
him down and I spoke to him earlier today and
I'm going to share that with you in just a moment.
And it was, you know, we can focus on all
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that's bad out there, who's not voting, but we got
a remember to We got to remember to applaud the
people who are, and that's you. You're not garbage, You're
good people. You keep the trains running, you keep the
children raised, you keep our community safe. I talked about
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the fact that this Sunday will be the last chance
for the church, for the pastors to talk to their
flock about the importance of this. And I talked about
the fact that black churches have our souls to the poles.
Used to be a pastor named Manson Johnson in Houston,
and he would do what they call the roll to
the polls. He would preach his sermon finish early you
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would go out to the bus buses that were waiting.
They would roll you to the polls early voting, last
Sunday of early voting. They rolled you to the pole.
You would cast your vote and come back and there
was a big meal that the church provided for you.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Afterwards. Everybody in the church voted.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
And oh, by the way, what Pastor Manson Johnson would do,
which I don't think violates the law, by the way,
is he had what was known as a pony, that
is a list that tells you how to vote, and
they he would walk down the list. He walked down
the road and give people that was the these are
your recommended candidates. I know this because I was a candidate,
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and I know this because he had endorsed my opponent.
So we would walk behind him and pick those up
and give them my note. And he didn't feel comfortable
taking away what I gave him. But I know what happens,
and I said, white pastors won't do that. White pastors
are scared, so demand of your pastor that they speak
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on the issues of the day. So I received from
you a number of folcus, one called Cornerstone Chapel. But
one of the guys I heard about, or one of
the sermons that was sent to me, was by a
pastor at First Odessa in Odessa, Texas, and here's just
a little clip of that.
Speaker 14 (19:04):
If we want to stand for morality, we want to
stand for godliness, and we want to see some good
things happen in America.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
If Christians do not vote.
Speaker 14 (19:12):
You can hang it up because it ain't going to happen.
It happens because people will go to that election box.
So we have two people to choose from. And I
want to say there should be no confusion.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Whatsoever really about who to vote for. And in fact
I will tell you.
Speaker 14 (19:28):
And by the time I finished this message, I think
you will understand it very clearly that this should be
the easiest, most clear cut decision on who to vote
for that we've been handed down to us in a generation.
In fact, I call it a no brainer because these
two parties, who I've mentioned a moment ago, are not
morally equal.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
They are not morally equal.
Speaker 14 (19:52):
What we have witness come forth from the Democrat Party
is far more than changing morals. It is demonic. It
is anti God through and through, and thus evil and demonic.
They promote everything that God hates.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
If you do not believe in.
Speaker 14 (20:10):
Child sacrifice, then this election is a no brainer. If
you do not believe in the undermining of the family.
The election is a no brainer. If you believe that
the Bible teaches that there are only two genders, male
and female, it's a no brainer. If you believe that
the brainwashing, sexualization, and mutilation of our.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Children is wrong, it's a no brainer.
Speaker 14 (20:35):
The Democrat Party is anti God and stands for all
that God hates, and it's a no brainer.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
You say, pastor prove that.
Speaker 14 (20:42):
I can prove that because Kamala Harris proved that at
her own rally. When someone shouted Jesus's Lord at her
own rally, she stopped intentionally and said, you're at the
wrong rally with a laugh.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
There's no joke in that.
Speaker 14 (21:01):
You don't laugh when somebody says Jesus's Lord, and you
don't scorn when somebody says Jesus's Lord. That fact alone
should make the skin crawl on every Bible believing Christian
in America.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Right there, it's a no brainer.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
So a listener sent me that and said, you need
to listen to this guy didn't give me the name.
I clicked on it last night. I went home and
I start listening to his sermon. It was an hour
and forty minutes. I say so, I skipped ahead, and
I said, let me just let me just sit to
the meat of this. So let's say forty five minutes
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in I start listening. So interesting thing when you go
to the website for the church, when you go on
the YouTube page. Unlike some folks that you know in public,
this wasn't the Byron McWilliams show. In fact, I had
to wait. I had to search to find out the
pastor's name. There's a church in town. The motto used
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to friends. Pastor's friend of mine. But we used to
kid with him because the motto was where Christ is
the main attraction. And I used to say, yeah, but pastor,
your name's bigger and his on the program. This guy's
not about Byron McWilliams. This guy's about the word. And
I can guarantee you he loses some members out of
saying that. But he's not looking at him as consumers.
He's actually ministering a pastoring to his flock, and I
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love it.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
He's our guest coming up.
Speaker 9 (22:29):
Yeah, God, allow me to introduce myself.
Speaker 16 (22:32):
My name is Mitor Michael Berry.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Genius.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Well.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
Pastor Byron McWilliams is my kind of guy. A listener
was kind enough to say, Hey, here's a pastor who
will speak out.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Here's a sermon where he does it.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
Byron McWilliams, in my opinion, is living up to God's
commandment to priests the Word. And you know, I've heard
churches refer to congregants as customers.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I find that very disturbing. I think they've lost the plot.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
So I love the fact that I had to go
looking for who he is, which means that his name's
not the biggest one on the marquee. It's almost as
if the Bible and the Word and salvation and the
sinners seeking salvation are the primary objective. But let's welcome
him to the show. Pastor Byron McWilliams.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Welcome, Hey, Michael Berry. How are you doing, sir?
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I'm good so.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
Knowing that it will probably offend some people, maybe cost
you some members, why do you speak out on why
people should vote and how they should vote and what
the issues are facing Christians in America to day?
Speaker 17 (23:47):
Why do that, man, Michael? That's the question right there. Ultimately,
I would say that it goes back to the time
that Donald Trump ran for the first time, and He'll
Clinton was the opponent, and at the last debate they had,
Hillary Clinton stood flat footed and said she's going to
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aboord a baby all the way up to the end
of nine months. And I stepped their praying and I think, God,
how do you want me to address this as a pastor?
Because my people need to hear from their pastor. And
I took both platforms at that time looked at him.
The Democratic platform looked like it had been written kind
of by the Antichrist, and the Republican platform looked like
it had been almost a Sunday School lesson because the
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referenced God so much. I brought those into the pulpit
with me, and I preached a message using those the
diconomy of those, and looking at that, I prayed about
what do I need to do here, because I don't
want to offend unnecessarily. But what I had found is
that if you preach the word of God, you're going
to offend people.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
That's just the bottom line.
Speaker 17 (24:49):
And so I prayed about when God, if he wanted
me to preach a message like that, this go round
and this last Sunday is when He gave me the
message to preach, and then God calls the shots. I
can't do any thing other than what I believe he
desires me to do. Nobody else tells me what to preach.
It's just I go to him, I pray, I seek
God's leadership, and then I step in and hopefully can
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deliver exactly the message that He desires me to preach.
So that's that's really how it came about. I've never
really shied away from tough subjects. You said something earlier
about being fearless. No, there is fear involved, but the
fear cannot be allowed to stop me from speaking and
saying what God wants me to say.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Do you get complaints?
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Yeah, yeah I do. It is a.
Speaker 17 (25:40):
We live in West Texas, and I will tell you
that West Texas is probably one of the reddest places
in Texas, and I love that.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
But I don't think it would matter where I live.
Speaker 17 (25:49):
I'm going to preach the word, and if I was
in Southeast Texas still I would preach there. I've preached
the same way when I live there. People do complain
at times, but people who know me, they know my
heart and they know that my desires to lift up
and exalt the Lord Genus above everything else. And uh,
and I just feel strongly that if the church is
silent during these perilous times, if the church is silent
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when we see all of the evil that is going on,
we we I'll stand before God, and I will I
will have to give an account of why I did
not speak up and why I did not warn the
sheep whom are under my responsibility as their shepherd. That's so, yeah,
I get complaints, but the complaints are not going to
stop me from.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Doing what God wants me to do.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
I note your involvement and leadership, rather impressive resume of
service and leadership in the Southern Baptist Convention and the
International Baptist Church. It's it's obviously you are well respected
among among ministers. When you when you look at that
(26:58):
service and you look at churches across the country, obviously
a lot of pastors.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Are not willing to do what you're willing to do.
Why do you think that is?
Speaker 5 (27:13):
That's a great question. I thought about that.
Speaker 17 (27:18):
I think fear is certainly the biggest issue for most
and I struggle with that, okay, because I'll tell you why.
I think if I'm going to let fear stop me
from speaking the word of God, that's not really fear
it's cowardice and I can't stand that. I think there's
a fear that some pastors had a have of losing members,
and let's just call it what it is. They don't
(27:38):
want to lose somebody the tides and gives to the
church because there's budgetary issues. But again, my God does
not just own a cattle on a thousand hills. He
owns a cattle on every hill, and he can provide,
and he does provide. And then I think there is
the fear in the mind of some that they're dishonoring
the Lord by standing up and speaking, you know, and
what they call politics, I think it's dishonoring to the
(28:01):
Lord to not stand up and.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Not speak truth regardless. And that's our calling.
Speaker 17 (28:06):
And you know, for the first time in American history,
you have the pulpits in America that are practically silent,
and world history has an American history has never had
silent pastors out there, you know, just just sitting and
watching that which is devastating to our culture, devastating to
(28:26):
the generations that.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
Are coming behind us.
Speaker 17 (28:28):
And they're going to sit by quietly and watch this
take place and not stand up and speak out against it.
And seek to lead God's people to deeper, to deeper
holiness toward in honor of Him. I just can't abide
by that. So I think it's fear. I think it's
fear of losing members. I think it's that big word fear.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
You know.
Speaker 7 (28:46):
I genuinely believe, not just a political comment, genuinely believe
it is much deeper than that, that there is a
move by the devil to silence the church. And I
think that a number of people have sup hum to that.
And I'll tell you, I don't know your finances. I
don't know your church's finances. I will tell you when
I see these churches constantly in the middle of a
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building fund, constantly in the middle of some fund to
enrich the pastor constantly trying to do something bigger. You know,
there was a prayer of job as Era where everybody
wanted to expand their lands, and I found that to
be very, very unbiblical. But just like at the individual level,
just like with the United States Treasury, when you take
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on all these debts, you put yourself in a situation.
I tell young people this today, when they get their
first job, do not go least of BMW or a
Mercedes and take out a loan on a big house.
You've just started your job, because then you can't leave
when you're compromised, and I think that that has affected
a lot of the church. So I have from a
distance an appreciation for what.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
You do and how you do it.
Speaker 7 (29:52):
But I will tell you that the highest compliment I
can give you is that you from when we talked
last night, you talk about shepherd your sheep and tending
your flock, and I love that about you. Pastor Byron McWilliams.
First Odessa, that you might be a shining example of
what the church should be. Oh els least for good
(30:15):
thank you, and good night,
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