PM Show Hr 2 | Why Trump Won the 2024 Election

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Speaker 3 (01:08):
We are huge fans of Victor Davis Hanson and I
decided long ago that our show was not just going
to be me yammering, that when we found good things,
we would share them with you. You know, back when Matt
Drudge was at his most influential in the Drudge Report,
Drudge didn't write hardly anything. What he did is he

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went out and found interesting things and that was a
place to go and he would curate it.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
But we kind of view our show that way.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
We're a team of folks, not just me, And while
I do most of the talking, a lot of it
is somebody else's idea on our team or something I've
read or something I've heard. So what we thought we
would do today during this last hour of the show,
and maybe we'll take up the whole hour.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
We'll see is H.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Victor Davis Hanson, and we will I be able to
get to all of it on the show today, and
it was my intention to Saturday's podcast will be the
entirety of Victor Davis Hansen with no interruption. But today
we pulled just some of my favorite parts of this

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discussion on why Trump won the twenty twenty four election,
and I think he's done a wonderful job explaining some
things that you might not have noticed but.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
That you were a part of.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
One of Australia's top journalists, Paul Kelly, has just said
this about the American election. The wide swathes of Middle
America knew Trump wasn't any saint, but they turned the
electoral matte red because they endorsed his bedrock positions that
living standards were in retreat, inflation was too high, borders

(02:51):
were not secure, and elites were too arrogant. Is that
a fair assessment.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
I think it's a very fair it's a very accurate assessment.
I think they also saw that the occasional crudity of
Donald Trump was almost a mechanism, and their desperation that
was necessary to get the attention of the elites. In
other words, they wanted somebody who wouldn't equivocate and didn't

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come from that milieu. And so they were really saying,
your agenda has no support, and yet you're ramming it
down our throats, and you won't listen to us, and
you make fun of us, You call us garbage, deplorables.
They were deemables, clingers, chumps, gregs. These are all pejoratives
at Biden and Obama and the Clintons of us. And

(03:43):
you forced us to do this. But we have now
a champion and he's going to cut through all of
this and remind you that we run the country in
not Hollywood or the institutions. There's academia, Silicon Valley. And
so they were in a complete bubble about what this
earth quake was about to hit them or this storm.

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Everybody could see it. I think some of them saw it.
But the media felt in the last seventy two hours
maybe or four days, if they rigged a poll in
Iowa or they said that it was dead even or
that the Senate was going to be held by the
Democrats that would either get people to the polls or

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it would raise money or create momentum. But John, there
were so many indicators that would prove what mister Kelly
said that the registrations were an all time high for Republicans.
They had gained six hundred thousand registrations since the last
time they contested Pennsylvania in twenty twenty. They had been

(04:50):
completely dumbfounded in twenty twenty on non election day balloting,
and yet they had more people non election day ballot.
They mastered the art of early in male in vallet
than the Democrats did. They got almost twenty five percent
of black males. That really and then that wasn't really

(05:11):
the key statistic. Black males who did not vote for
Donald Trump stayed home, and so these big centers that
they count on to swarm rural areas in Detroit, Pittsburgh,
Philadelphia were not there in sufficient numbers. They said there
was a female gap and that Donald Trump was a
sexist and he had alienated women. He got in many

(05:33):
states he got more suburban white women than he did
than did heris the Hispanic vote, and we've talked about that.
I had never seen a and I live in a
Mexican American community overwhelmingly so. But I had not talked
to a Mexican American over the age of forty male

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male who was going to vote for Kamala Harris, and
that had not been true. Into sixteen. They even had
the omige going out, They worked the Arab American Muslim vote,
They split the Jewish vote, which usually is seventy thirty.
All of that was known to the posters and to
the media, and yet they kept telling us that Donald

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Trump was dumbfounded by Saturday Night Live, that Donald Trump
had threatened to kill Liz Cheney, that Donald Trump wanted
to kill the media, and they didn't. They didn't. Everybody
got sick of them. They didn't like to be lectured too,
and they knew what was going to happen. Everybody that
I knew from the middle classes thought Donald Trump was

(06:37):
going to win, and I could feel it.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Pick to the reality is is it looks to be
the case from here, all the money, all the celebrities,
all the so called influences, most of the media were
absolutely one sided and painting Trump as a threat to democracy.
This is surely actually in the in a wind for
democracy because people saw thrut all. They're not the mugs

(07:05):
that the elites take them to be.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
No, they as you say, they had academia, Hollywood entertainment,
the celebrities, the money, Wall Street, the foundations. All they
lacked was the people because their agenda. They had lied
to the American people. They had said Donald Trump was
a disruptor, a disuniter, and we under old Joe Biden

(07:32):
from Scranton in twenty twenty will unite the country under moderation,
and that was a complete lie. They used him as
a vessel and empty vessel for an Obama extreme agenda
of open borders with no health or background checks, twelve
million illegal aliens, uninhabitable downtown of our major cities. They

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were overridden with crime, an attack on fossil fuels, nuclear power,
a disastrous foreign policy that you could define it by
the Afghanistan debacle, or the two wars in Ukraine and
the Middle East, or the Chinese balloon or China threat
to plot in Taiwan.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
More Victor Davis Hanson. Why Trump won the twenty twenty
four elections coming up?

Speaker 1 (08:19):
They remain scared the death of you, and they remain
scared to.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Death of Trump. Michael Berry Show.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
You're not going anywhere even if Trump does. You're not.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
So I'm turning over some of our space to something
we are which will also be our Saturday podcast, and
that is Victor Davis Hanson's Why Trump Won the twenty
twenty four election.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
We thought it was rather insightful and we wanted to
share it with you.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
We won't be able to get to all of it
on the show today, but it will be our entire
Saturday podcast this Saturday. Next Saturday will be Molly Hemingway
on Media Bias, which you don't want to miss.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
But we're not on the air live on Saturdays.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
So we always choose something because people asked us to
do that. This is something that we I know, ramone,
I got it. Yes, can I finish? So it's amazing
things I have to do while we're most distracted me Anyway,
we thought it was really good and so we pulled

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a few clips from it in case you don't get
to listen to the entire Saturday podcast. Here here's Victor
Davis Hanson on why Trump won the twenty twenty four election.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
Did you see yourself or imagine such a disasive victory?

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Did I imagine the victory such a desausion victory is. Yeah,
I thought he had a good chance of winning the
popular vote, just because if you have a Republican candidate,
and the way it works here, as you know, they
lose the urban areas and the minority votes, and they

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count on the rural areas, and under the Obama massaging,
and those urban areas had reached such a you know,
when Obama ran in twenty twelve against Romney for reelection,
he won one precinct in Philadelphia, very dubiously, so thirty
thousand to one. How can you ever make that out?

(10:18):
When you hear that Donald Trump was going to get
half of the Latino vote, or he was going to
get twenty five percent of the Black vote, or he
was going to get union people or the United Auto
Workers or the Teamsters. That hasn't happened here. And this

(10:40):
was a man that they said was racist and polarizing
and hateful. And then when you saw that suburban white
women were going over him at the time, we were
told all they care about his abortion on demand. Yeah,
you can see that he had made inroads, and you
had a super impose that fact on the reality that

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unlike a Bob Dole or Mitt Romney or John McCain.
He had a fanatical base in rural and small town America,
and I mean fanatical is defined by they would do
anything to vote for him. If there's a hurricane in
rural North Carolina, they didn't matter. They were going to
get out and win him that state. Nobody had ever

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seen such loyalty by these irredeemables. These were the people
of East Palestine and Ohio that the administration completely ignored
when they had a toxic fume. They are the people
that were in the hurricane damage that they were very
tardy in helping. And so it's I think it's a

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very good lesson because it's democracy and representative democracy in
its best form. You know what. Another irony we were
told John that with the National Voters Compact that the
Blue states had were only sixty one votes short of
getting rid of the electoral College, which has a lot
of constitutional protections in it and has a long history

(12:05):
of utility for both sides. And these state legislatures had
voted to go around the amendment process, which they could
never do. You need two thirds of Congress, three fourths
of the state and just have the states adhere to
the national vote and reject the state vote because they

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were sure they were going to win the national vote.
And they had won the national every national vote since
two thousand and four, for twenty years, and they hadn't
They a Republican hadn't gotten fifty one percent of the
majority vote since nineteen eighty eight. And guess what. Donald
Trump was the first person in twenty years on the
Republican side to win the popular vote. He will probably

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be the first republicans's ninety eighty eight to win fifty
one percent of the popular vote. And all the states
that swore in pass legislation they would unconstitutionally reflect the
national vote not doing it. California is pledging all of
its electors to Harris, who won the state, as they should.

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So the more that the aftermath is really making the
left look pretty bad. He moved.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
Trump moved quite quickly in his acceptance speech, victory speech,
whatever he might choose to call it, to say that
he would seek to heal America, given that he may
in fact have secured that first majority vote for so
long and so forth is in a position to do so.

(13:39):
America looks so bifurcated so at war with itself. I
mean the constant him as a fascist.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
He is. People apparently don't know what the word means. Oh.
I must remember that after twenty sixteen, after they were
he and Hillary, she was calling him a agent and
he was calling her crooked Hillary. Everybody thought that given
she had destroyed thirty thousand emails and the devices upon

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them and they were under subpoena, that he would have
the DOJ go after And when he say the first
thing he said, she's suffered enough, people went to him
and said, you've got to fire James Comy, the director
of the FBI, sab he tried to sabotage. I'm not
going to do that. He never did any of that.
But how can he heal the country? When Latita James,

(14:30):
a prosecutor in New York who tried to bankrupt him
and said that she's going to press down. How can
you do when Alvin Bragg at the end of the
month is going to try to put him in jail
and Jack Smith has re indicted him. A federal prosecutor
for all of these were minor matters. That know whether
prosecutor would have picked up they've never done it against
the next president. And now we're facing a situation where

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the left is openly saying, well, we may have lost
the election, but maybe Fanny Willow, Latita James, or Alvin
Bragg or Jack Smith can put him in jail, and
that would cause the constitutional crisis he's been two people
try to shoot him. People are very afraid of his
health in the next ninety days until he takes power.

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Everybody had heard a new Kamala Harris that had rejected
thirty years of her radical, very radical socialist agendas to
be palatable. But everybody now is so cynical. They know
that when she has ninety days left on her vice
presidential tenure, she'll just revert back to what she was
before the campaign. So the hostility is coming from the left,

(15:44):
and it's always been that way in this cycle of
politics that we've seen. There's something about Donald Trump that
and you see it in your country, you see it
in Europe. Among wealthy elites, educated elites. They feel that
he he should not represent them, even though he has

(16:07):
constitutionally won that privilege of representing, they still don't want
him to be represented by him more.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Victor Davis Hanson why Trump won the twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Four Americans a nation that can be defined in a
single word. I put him put the number nine, not
only frontier. Gimory expressed a courage.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Scene of the Statum Michael Berry show.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
He now.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
Knows, I think how the place works. Yes, that and
he will know. I would imagine who are real change
agents and who to put who to build around him
if you like a good team around himself. That presumably
with a sympathetic House and Congress, as it appears he

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will have. The Cynics might say that'll give him unfettered power.
Others might say it will help him govern in a
very clean way. To respond, let's face it to America's
vital concerns. The economy is not doing well for them,
Immigration is a problem, and the elites and their wokism
are mad. He will know now much more effectively how

(17:21):
to start to change these things.

Speaker 6 (17:23):
Would that be a fair assessment, Yeah, I think it is.
He doesn't see that as radical. He sees that He's
called it common sense. He's taken the example of Mexico.
Mexico is sent by deliberation twelve million illegals. Here, we
have three hundred and fifty thousand people with criminal records
that were knowingly let in from Latin America and Mexico.

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They've committed horrendous crimes. We have the cartels that have
killed indirectly but by design in a way, by masking
fentanyl with prescription drugs and candy, even one hundred thousand Americans.
And Eiden was so afraid to say anything to Mexican.
First thing Trump said, and he even said it before

(18:05):
the election, I'm going to call the president of Mexico
up and I'm going to say no more fentanyl and
no more illegalation immigration. I'm going to slap a twenty
five percent tariff on you, and I'm going to probably
tax your remittance as you get sixty billion. We'll see
how you like it. And he's serious about that. He's
not trying to bully people, but he does things like that.
So if you have an international incident where Australia isn't

(18:31):
a very vulnerable to take your country and they feel
that they need the support and encouragement of the United States,
he's not going if he believes that.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
If he were to agree with you, he's not going
to call up and say, well on the one hand.
On the other hand, he would say what do you need,
when do you need it, and I'll do it. And
that's the type of ally he is. He's not wishy washy,
and that's what bothers the left. They think in nuances
are in gradations and incrementalism. He's not that. For better

(19:03):
or worse. He's very decisive. He's not reckless, but he's
very decisive, and he moves very decisively with China, with Russia,
with the radical Islamic world. And if you think what
he said he was going to do in two thousand
and fifteen, he said he was going to get rid
of Isis. In fact, he used the bulgarity, I'm going

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to bomb the shi t out of them. He said
he was going to deal with the Iranians who had
killed Americans in Iraq. That was Solomani. He said that
he was going to cut off Iran and brankrupt him.
He almost did. He would have if they hadn't uplifted
the sanction. All of those things he did. And I
was talking to, you know, to some Israelis diplomats, and

(19:46):
they said, we've had so many sophisticated people who knew
the Middle East and we've asked them for support and
they always give us a thousand reasons why they couldn't
do it. And they were asking me, as an American,
what is it with your president? He came over here
and our team said to him, we'd like to finally
get the embassy in Jerusalem. He said, it always belonged there.

(20:09):
And then they said they keep talking about the Golden
Heisman Israeli. He said, yes it is, that's done. And
then they said, in Iran is the cause of all
these problems. Is there any chance that we could discuss
the Iran deal or the one hundred billion in oil revenue.
He said, they're done, We're out of the Iran deal.
We're going to get this. And then they would say

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things like the Huthis are terrorists, but no American would
wants to ruffle their fair. Well, we'll just call them terrorists.
And as this diplomat spoke to me, he said he
did more for Israel that needed to be done, not
just because he liked Israel, but we're fair and were
for the greater good of the Middle East. He did

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more in two months than the last fifty years of
American presidencies. And he said The odd thing about it
was he probably was not a sophisticated or as well
read in the intricacies and the nuances of Middle East
history and diplomacy, but he had an innate, I mean,
and sense of Moraley what had to be done and

(21:12):
why it wasn't done. And so that's why he's kind
of you know, yo to Israel today and he doesn't
mention Israel much. He doesn't really talk about it, but
when you go to Israel, he's almost a sainted figure
because he did more for the autonomy of Israel than
any other president has done, and yet he didn't really

(21:33):
He may john have got forty percent of the Muslim
vote in Michigan, the more the left pand or two. Yeah,
he did. Part of it was one of the daughters
in the West.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
We do have a look in the wish that there
are many many people in the Middle East who are
quietly cheering Israel on because they're frightened of Iran.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yes, he did, and he was. He made the argument
that Hamas does not represent or it may have been
elected at once, but it's not in the interests of
the people of Gaza that Iran. If you cut off
the head of the snake. Then people would be free
to deal with Hesbalah and Hamas and the hutis a
lot of people from the Middle East appreciate that, and

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so I think it's an exciting time. We'll see if
he gets good people around him. One of the problems
that when you talk to people surrounding him in twenty sixteen,
no one wanted to work for him, The Maverick, the Outsider.
Twenty twenty, it was sort of that he had a team.
Now they're getting six and seven applications for even minor position.

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Everybody wants to work for Donald Trump. And I don't
know if he's going to be able to filter out.
But suddenly the thing in Washington is all of these
never Trump or anybody wants to be part of this team.
They're very excited, and they're going to have a terrible
time trying to find people who will not do what

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happened last time with the anonymous the person in Homeland
Security that was bragging to the New York Times and
he was sort of an insurrectionist and derailing executive orders.
Are people in the Defense Department that were overriding Trump's orders.
He's got to get a team that is loyal, but
he's got so many people that want to participate.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
He did say, as I understand it, at one point,
that Israeli should go after Aron's nuclear capability. Presumably he's
likely to revisit that, and presumably the Iranians are now
deeply concerned because plainly they've been hit much harder already

(23:47):
by the Israelis, and they're admitting plainly they now know
that Israeli is highly effective with American encouragement. I would
have thought the Israelis could do a men's damage to
Iran and they would be extraordinarily subdued by that at
the moment.

Speaker 5 (24:06):
Yeah, I would say that because of his you had
a lot of people RFK Tulci Gabbard around him, and
he is campaigned strenuously against optional military wars in.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
The Middle East, especially land engagements. Cost of benefit analysis,
these are not worth it. But as I understand his
message to net Yahoo is it would be better for
you if you feel that Iran is going to attack
you again, either to write it out and then take

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it in retaliation. Given the prompt to take out the
nuclear facilities, their military bases that are oil before I'm president,
that would be easier. So that is the message that
I think he's telling me Israeli.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Is it more. Victor Davis Hansen Why Trump won the
twenty twenty four election, Coming.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Court Marble Fellas and then listen to the Michael Berry Show.
Good that.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
The final segment of the show.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
We don't normally do serious in the last segment of
the show, but today I wanted to get to this.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
It's really good.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
It's important that we understand why we won this election.
What did Gordon Bethoon say, Tell them what you're going
to do, do it, and then tell them what you did.
It's important that we own the narrative of why we
won this election. So this will be our Saturday podcast.
You won't get to hear it all here on the show,
but this Saturday's podcast we Victor Davis Hansen's why Trump

(25:38):
won the twenty twenty four election, And here you go.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
We know, of course that he he doesn't like the
leader of North Korea very much, refers to him as
a little rocketman. Little Rocketman appears to be supplying mercenaries
and quite substantial numbers to Russia. I would imagine Trump
will be onto that one very quickly.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
I think so he was last time. Even there, though,
he confounded the left. The left started out saying that
he was too mean, he was too reckless. When he
said my button's bigger than yours. He came in where
North Korea was just being a very useful bulldog that
the China master cut loose and caused havoc, and then

(26:22):
China kind of chuckled about it. And when they started
threatening to send missiles into the West Coast, Trump was
alarmed and said, I have a bigger button than you do,
and we can do the same thing to you, and
ours will work. He said, ours will work. The left
went crazy, and then he did what everybody who read
any of his books or followed his career knew he

(26:44):
would do. He wrote a letter to North Korea and said,
this is not in your interest to be on the
wrong side of my administration. I'm willing to talk. They talked,
and then he did exactly what he wrote about in
his books. He said, I like mister Kim Jong Oon.
We can cut a deal. I didn't find him to
be a monster. If you read anything he wrote about

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That's what he always said. When you make a deal,
you do not insult your opposition, and then when you
make the deal, you make sure you get an advantage.
And then after the deal is over, you did not
privately ridicule him, that you praise him to the skies,
And that's exactly what he does. So I would imagine
that he would tell Kim Jong un in stage one,

(27:29):
what you're doing is unacceptable. If you keep doing it,
it's going to end badly for you. Then stage two
is I'm willing to make a deal, and then make
some kind of deal and then praise Kim John un.
And that's where the left came in and said, look
at this, he's praising a dictator, even though he had
They had just told us that he's deliberately antagonizing a dictator.

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They had no idea, the motives, operandi of how he works.
But it was working, and it worked with Putin, and
it worked with Chi and we didn't have a war,
and it worked with the radical Islamases. As soon as
he did this, he said, Iran is an outlaw nation.
He killed Solomani. No one even dared to do that.
He bombed the crap, he said, out of Isis. And

(28:17):
then he Iran called him up and said, you've made
US look ridiculous. And Trump said, well, I'm about ready
to hit you. And they said, can we send sixteen
or seventeen missiles over to you in Iraq and Syria
and get close to your base. We'll tell you the
time and the location. Put everybody in and it'll say it.

(28:37):
So he said, yeah, as long as you don't kill
one American. If you kill one American, we're going to
send a salvo. So there was some disagreement. The military
felt some people suffered shell shock from the but he
the Ranians basically did what they said they were going
to do it. It was a put timpkin attack. And
then Trump didn't cause a war, but Iran behaved, and

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then he puts sanctions on and yet they criticized them
for that. They said he was provoking a war with Iran.
And then when Iran didn't do anything and back down,
and they said, well, they send missiles in and he
didn't reply to them. He didn't care about America. So
we got to the point whatever he did they were

(29:20):
going to criticize, but it all had utility, and they
haven't come up with any formula solution that improved on
his own. And as soon as he left, the world
fell apart, It really did.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
What does bring us to presidency? There's a general view
in many quarters at the next four or five years,
in other words, during the next presidential term, well, it's
the most dangerous time.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Of all the warnings that they married.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
The Chinese military's being told to be ready by twenty
twenty seven to take Taiwan by force it necessary. I
would imagine that Trump's reelection is hardly being welcomed in
Beijing today.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
No, it is not welcomed. And of course on the
far right, there was always a conspiracy theory because of
the lab nique that people felt. I don't subscribe to that,
but is a sign of what the right thought of China.
They felt that the cold COVID that originated in China

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was somehow connected to the Chinese fear of dom frump
and wanting them out. When in November of twenty nineteen
and was almost sure that he was going to be
re elected, he was ahead of the polls. He would
have been re elected if it had not been for
COVID and the lockdown, and then the George Floyd ryots,
which I think in themselves were a result of the lockdown,

(30:55):
their intensity. So China realizes that for all the talk
about their they are ascendant, and they are all powerful,
and they have a bigger military. They still have. I
think in most economists will agree that they still have
only about seventy to eighty percent of our GDP. They

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have four times the population, and of very crude form nations.
That takes four Chinese workers to approximate seventy percent of
what one worker does in the United States, we're a
very productive society and in many areas, for all of
the Chinese stealing and copying, we're much more pre eminent.

(31:41):
And under Trump, I think China will be faced with
a lot of things that is going to bother them.
They have over three hundred thousand students come here. Most
people think two or three percent are actively engaged in espionage.
I don't think that's going to continue. I think that
they have a lot of asim metrical tariffs. They know that.

(32:02):
I think for everyone, Trump will try to outdo their tariffs.
Not a blanket tariff, but a tit for tat. I
think he will tell the Chinese, if you go and
bully the Taiwanese, or the Philippines or any of our
more prominent allies. We have ways of retaliate against you,
and we will do that, and we wish you wouldn't

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do that. The thing about it so strange is that
under prior Republican administrators candidates that believed in the same
theory of deterrence as Trump, there was kind of a
bragadaccio that was different than Trump's. They actually would kind
of brag that we want to get and go to

(32:44):
war with them or something. Trump talks a great game,
but he does not want to destroy relations with China
or any of our adversaries. He just wants to remind
them that they have overreached and what they're doing is
not in their own interest and they will stop it.
But he doesn't really want to go to war. And

(33:05):
there's no idea of going into Iraq or Afghanistan or
bombing Libya like Hillary did to create some type of utopia.
He doesn't have any dreams like that. It's all Jacksonian
and he wants to protect the Western world. And when

(33:25):
I go to Europe, it's very bizarre John to hear
people who are going to be beneficiaries of Trump's foreign
policy damn him and then praise people who would not
lift a finger to help Europe in a crisis, or
would you know what Trump said to the Germans. You're

(33:49):
playing with fire with a Norseterm pipeline number two, and
you're heavily dependent on natural gas, and we better stop
that for your own of the