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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Utah has become the third state to enshrine school choice
into law, joining Arizona and Iowa. Corey DeAngelis of the
American Federation for Children says a universal school choice revolution
has ignited, adding that Arkansas, Florida, Nebraska, Oklahoma, South Carolina,
and Texas may soon follow. Over the weekend, Utah's Governor
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Spencer Cox signed into law House Built two fifteen, which
establishes the Utah Fits All Scholarship program, providing funding for
the program as well as boosted teacher pay. House Built
two fifteen provides students with eight thousand dollars in state
funds that can be used towards private school tuition and
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other education related expenses. The program is capped at forty
two million dollars and five thousand participants for its first year.
The legislation also increased annual teacher salaries in the state
by six thousand dollars. Despite this, the legislation faced universal
opposition from numerous public education groups, including the state Board
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of Education and the Utah Education Association. Governor Cox said
in a release statement, school choice works best when we
adequately fund public education and we remove unnecessary regulations that
burden our public schools and make it difficult for them
to succeed. We are especially appreciative of our teachers and
education leaders who helped push for more accountability measures which
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were not included in the original bill. Deangelus says a
universal school choice revolution has ignited. Utah is the second
state this year to go all in on empowering families
with education freedom. Red states are now engaging in friendly
competition to fund students, not systems. Iowa already passed universal
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school choice this year. The uh Public Policy Institute did
a rather extensive survey that I read to you from
last week about opinions on gambling in the state of Texas,
particularly casinos. Another of the issues that same poll tackled
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was school choice, and it turns out that for the
first time, we always knew that We always knew that
certain demographics were for a school choice, but now we're
finding that inner city parents, including inner city black parents,
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are now supportive of school choice. That is the death
knell to the old system. Imagine if the restaurant industry,
which I like to use because everybody eats at a
restaurant at some point or another, you may not eat
it out every night every day, but you do eat out.
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Imagine if the restaurant industry was run on the model
of the public school where nobody gets fired ever, where
you have a sense that the customer, which is the taxpayer,
has no role in the school. You know, when I
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was growing up, parents would come to the school and
sit in the back of the class. If a parent's
child was misbehaving, they would ask the school for permission.
And if he was misbehaving Miss Dowden's class, there would
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come Bobby Thompson's dad and he would come and sit
in the back of the class one day.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
And oh, the shame for Bobby.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Oh the embarrassed Bobby.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Bobby, boyeye, good, dad's here, dude.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Oh I know he's gonna sit in on the class.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Are you serious?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Why because he's an idiot? Oh my.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
All right, dude, I gotta go. Hey, Bobby Thompson's dad's
in the back of the class. Is in the bag
of the class. He's gonna sit in the class.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Why because he got in trouble with Miss down And
I guess, Oh my god, can you imagine the embarrassment
go into class, Bobby Thompson. I want to move you
up to the front today instead of being back there
behind Wendy and pulling her pigtails all day. Bobby slams
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his book, stands up, walks to the front of the class.
I'm gonna put you right here, and she stands over
the desk right here.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
You remember those.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Desks that would have the thick metal under and you
put your books under the bottom, and you have the
little desktop on the top. They went They used to
have the wood with the veneer over plywood, but then
they went to the plastic because people would ride on
that wood to peel that widow anyway. So there she'd
tap on it till he came in that desultory fashion,
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even puts books down, and she'd say, okay, well, then
we have a special guest today, Bobby's dad, mister Thompson.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Everybody kind of turned and then you turn to look
at your.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Hilarious Bobby's in a world of hurt. He has never
felt that level of shame ever before, and maybe not since.
Being sentenced to prison is probably not as bad as
that right there. That was a sentence right there on
the spot. His dad's trying to step in. But when
your dad's a plant worker and You're like, you know,
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my kids going to straight and narrow or he's going
to screw up, and I'm not gonna let him screw up.
If he screws up, it's going to be despite every
thing I have to do, I have no shame. All
I want is the best for my kid. And the
class is awkward. Let's be honest, it's not a typical class.
Miss Dowding is over she's overdoing it. You know, she's
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overly nice, enunciating when she asks questions, she's solicitous in
a way that she wouldn't normally be. She's very attentive.
And then the class is over and Bobby shoots out
there and his dad feels like, Okay, I got my
point across. What would happen if parents came back into
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the classroom at public schools sat in the back. The
sad thing is, I wonder how many kids parents would
be willing, even if they could afford to, because they
have jobs during the day. How many parents would care
enough to go and see exactly what's going on. Oversight, accountability, responsibility, consequences.
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That's how you get results in everything I've ever done,
whether it's your weight loss, whether it's training for a marathon,
there's training for a sporting event, training for an exam,
building a company. If you lack those things, you will fail.
And our public schools lack those things. So give parents choices,
so good schools.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Will be rewarded.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
They're jobs.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Don't use that tone to me.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Not a joke.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
That's sarcastic, contemptuous tone. That means you know everything because
you're a man, and I know nothing because I'm a woman.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
That is not a joke. That is a natural fact.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
The Michael Verry Show. A year or two ago, I
was watching No Country for Old Men, and Tommy Lee
Jones's character, if you recall, is the sheriff who never
really unholsters his gun. He never has to draw, and
the Mexican cartels have brought a level of violence to
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the streets that he can't even understand. The firepower far
exceeds anything he's got, and he just can't understand how
the world has gone to hell. It just can't understand it.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
So he goes to.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
His mentor, and he's talking to his mentor, and his
mentor's trying to explain how crazy the world has become,
and he refers to Signs and Wonders. And when I
heard that, I thought, you know, that's how I feel
about some of the crazy news stories of how on
earth can this actually happen? How do you reach such
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a point of depravity? I really have to wonder. Well.
Our latest installment of Signs and Wonders comes to you
from Chicago, Illinois.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
It's all the damn money, income money, and the drugs.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
It's just help me everything.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
What's it mean?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
What's it leading to?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
If you'd have told me twenty years ago, i'd see
children walk in the streets of our Texas towns with
the green hair bones in their noses, and it fled out,
wouldn't have bleak Signs and Wonders.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
But I think once you quit here in, sir and ma'am,
rest of them to follow. Oh, it's the tide.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
It's the dismal pad.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
It is not the one that the one thing signs
and walkers, Sir, mam, resters.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Signs and wonders. It's the digital pown signs and wonders,
Signs and wonders.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
So credit for this story comes from Fox thirty two
in Chicago, and.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
It's ugly.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
We began with a tragic story in the Southwest suburbs
after teens take a stolen Kia for a deadly joy ride.
Robin's Police say three thirteen year old boys were inside
a stolen Kia with the driver's side window busted out,
driving on Kedzie Avenue at about two thirty this afternoon.
Police started to follow the Kia when it collided with
another car, killing a seventy one year old man who
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was driving. Neighbors tell us the man lived in a
nearby apartment complex.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
It's terrible, terrible.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I don't even think they'd taken driver's head, So how
are you stealing a car? He's very unfortunate, said said.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
The teens were all arrested at the scene.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
The amazing thing is that that woman is most bothered
that they haven't taken drivers in. That's the least of
their worries. Before you say, well, they're just children doing
childish things, let me remind you of Latarian.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Milton.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Latarian was seven years old when he stole his grandma's car.
When asked why he did it, he said that he
wanted to do hood rat stuff with his friends. He
wanted to do hood rat stuff with his friends. That
went viral in two thousand and nine, but you've already
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forgotten it. He was seven years old. You have a
seven year old boy stealing a car and saying funny
stuff on the news. Let's go back to that original report.
This is a seven year old kid, a first grader.
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Credit WPF News in West Palm.
Speaker 8 (11:35):
Beach, Latarian Milton is not your typical seven year old.
If you his age, have ever driven an suv up
and down several busy streets. It all started at his
mother's townhouse. Latarian says he took the car keys and
hopped into his grandmother's dodge duringo.
Speaker 9 (11:48):
When I came through the back door, I looked on
the counter, my keys were gone.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I took my grandma Cather because they got mad at
my mom. And then I saw him have my friend
come in and he smoked with cigarettes.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
He started the vehicle that put it into gear. I
yanked the I yanked it.
Speaker 9 (12:03):
I yanked the.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
Thing, and off they went. Two seven year olds alone
on the road. Latarian drove several miles through Lake Park
and Palm Beach Gardens.
Speaker 9 (12:11):
We got the one called that he told you about
of a driver in the vehicle who looked too short
to be able to see it the stereo.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Along the way, he ran over two mailboxes, hit two
parked cars in a Costco parking lot, and struck two
moving cars near Walmart. I want to do it because it's
fun funny. Do bad things drive into a car? So
did you know that you could perhaps kill somebody?
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
But I wanted to do hoo orsh stuff with my friend.
Speaker 8 (12:31):
It all ended on Investment Lane and Consumer Drive. That's
where Latarian hit the curb inside, swiped the sign. The
SUV took most of the beating, snapping off one of
his axles and wheels.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
A grandmother's rage.
Speaker 9 (12:42):
I want to whip his behind. That's what I want
to do right now. If I thought they wouldn't take
me to jail, I'd whip his behind right now.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
You don't think he should be punished for all of this.
There's a little bit, no video games for a whole weekend,
and one unusual story for police.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Are you sorry?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
You understand that now you're Grandma's gonna have to pay.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
To have those cars sticks because you hit those cars.
Speaker 9 (13:04):
Can my mom help up?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I don't know, Can you mom help her?
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Well?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
You moved on.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
As we all did, but Latarian didn't. Two weeks after that,
he attacked his grandmother because she wouldn't buy him chicken wings.
Nine years later, he found himself in trouble again. Want
to guess what he did? This time he carjacked a
car with his friends once again. WPBF twenty five news.
Speaker 8 (13:32):
Latarian Milton spent about ten minutes in court this morning.
He learned that he will not be able to go
home anytime soon. He will have to wait to hear
from the judge the next court day. We last spoke
with Latarian Milton in twenty fifteen. He had just completed
middle school and was looking forward to the next step.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
And I did the.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
School in high school because he had found the football
team had some good success.
Speaker 8 (13:53):
Here this is Milton entering Westbalm Beach courtroom Monday to
face charge of stemming from an arm robbery and carjacket
Beach County Chief Stepant. He say a lift driver picked
up four young males and a female early Sunday morning
and drove them to a windor away in West Palm Beach.
That's where the female exited the vehicle. Investigators say the
suspects told the driver to take them to another location.
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When the driver refused, authorities say one of the suspects
pulled out a handgun and hit the driver in the
back of the head. The driver says he got out
of the car and was robbed of his wallat and jacket.
He later told deputies that Milton, who was in the
front passenger seat, got out and hopped into the driver's
seat and sped away with the other suspects. According to investigators,
the driver gave detectives a phone number which led to
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the identification of Milton. Deputy's arrested Milton Sunday afternoon. We
first met Milton in two thousand and seven, when he
was seven years old. He had just stolen his grandmother's
SUV and went on a joy ride through Lake Park
in Palm Beach Gardens.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I want to do it cause it's fun, funny do
bad things. Drives into a car, So did you know
that you could perhaps kill somebody? Yes, boy, I wanted
to do hood stuff with my friend.
Speaker 9 (14:56):
If I thought they wouldn't take me to jail, I'd
whip thisiss behind right now.
Speaker 8 (15:00):
Back in court, the judge ordered Milton to remain at
a juvenile facility until his next court.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Day, Miltarian would be sentenced to fifteen years in prison
for that crime. The streets have replaced fathers in the home.
You know, I've played this clip before, but maybe it's
never been more appropriate than now. It was Denzel Washington
when he was asked about the importance of the father
in the home.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
You know, incarceration rates in America has been a problem,
especially as opposed to minorities, and Roman delvez into this,
the issues around the legal system. Do you think we've
made any headway?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
And I think it's more important to make headway in
our own house. By the time the system comes into play,
the damage is done. They're not locking up seven year olds. Yeah.
You know, I was in Chicago a couple of three
four weeks ago, and we saw these little kids on
bikes with masks on the side of the head, like
five or six of them. And the drivers said, yeah,
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they little yummies. I said, who said little yummies? Look
up Google little yam Little yummy was a eleven year
old murderer. Wow. And you look at his picture, you'll
see the headshot him and he's like this And he
got murdered at eleven by a fourteen year old. Wow,
who's doing life now? And a sixteen year old?
Speaker 4 (16:14):
That makes no sense.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
You blame the system. Where was his father? It starts
in the house, It starts in the home. And yeah, well,
well when my father got locked up? Or where was
his father?
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
You know, like I did, talk about my three closest friends,
and they did you know, fifteen to twenty five? One
did twenty eight this and that I was the only
one of the three to have a father in my life,
even though my parents were together. But I still had
a father who was a gentle man and a good example.
And they didn't We can blame the system if we won,
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but they didn't lock any of us up at seven. Yeah,
we were all doing enough to get locked up at thirteen.
My parents sent me in another direction. They didn't have
anybody to help them, kept doing what they was doing,
and the system got them. So I don't know, the
system is rigged, But why all the more reason not
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to help?
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Can you take care of your down?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Think about it?
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Michael?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Why? Ever, wonder what exactly is going on with Ukraine?
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Ever?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Wonder how it is that this country has so much
involvement with America's politically connected families, including but not limited
to the Bidens, Or why it just happens to be
that it was a Ukrainian oil company, Barisma, where Hunter
Biden was getting paid all this money and Joe Biden
goes over and says, you got to fire the ag
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in order to get this aid from America. Ever, wonder
why it is we choose to spend billions in Ukraine
when we don't in many other countries. If you're telling
me it's to stop Russian aggression, hmm. If you're telling
me it's because a weaker nation has been attacked by
a stronger one. I can point to ten others that
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we don't in, say Africa, for a number of different reasons.
It almost seems to me that the presidents of those
nations need to do better at giving kickbacks to Hunter Biden,
or they need to find better incentives for the people
in this country that make those deals happen. Bradley Devlin
is a staff reporter from the American for The American Conservative,
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formerly an an analysis reporter for The Daily Caller. He's
been published in a Daily Wire, Daily Signal talking about
how one of the biggest investment firms Blackrock Have you
heard that name before? Are striking deals to help rebuild Ukraine. Bradley,
let me ask you how this story first came across
your radar, how you got interested in it, and then
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how do you begin to navigate a world where there's
not a lot of public information available to tell this story?
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Well, first off, thanks for having me. I really appreciate
coming on and talking about this issue because it's so important,
especially when we've looked at the last thirty years of
American foreign policy, really, you know, going in destabilizing nations
and promising to rebuild them in our own image. And
this is exactly what's going on with Ukraine. You know,
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it's funny we turned off the spigot for the military
industrial complex in Afghanistan by Biden actually doing a good thing, right,
holding to the promise that President Trump made that we
would leave Afghanistan, even though he delayed the timeline and
botched the withdrawal. Nevertheless, I think it's better that our
troops are home. Well, as soon as we turn off
that pigot, another one turns on, and that's obviously Russia's
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invasion of Ukraine. And this interested me because everyone involved,
just like as you said in the intro, right Biden
promising to fire that ag, boasting about how he got
the ag fired when there was a clear conflict of
interest there. The same thing's happening now where Black Rock
and the Ukrainian government are actually boasting about out bringing
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in some of the worst people in the world to
rebuild their country and make money hand over fist. And
so it was press releases, it was statements from the
Ukrainian government dating back to last September when Larry Fink,
the CEO of Blackrock, and Zelensky first met by video teleconference.
And yeah, it's really difficult. It's a lot of opaque information.
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You don't actually get the numbers because those are oftentimes
private or will be released in due time, obviously before
it's you know, after it's too late to stop all
the all the madness. So yeah, I'm still working hard
on trying to track down exactly how Blackrock has been
involved in our reconstruction of various nations that we've decided
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to help or decided to invade and then rebuild in
the name of liberal democracy. But one thing is clear.
If you just go on CNN Money right now, and
I'd encourage all you listeners to do this. If you
just go on CNN Money right now and you check
out Black Rocks positions in every single major defense contractor
whether it's North of Grumman or General Dynamics or Boeing
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or Lockheed Martin. They have about a five percent stake
in every single one of these companies. So they have
a five percent stake, meaning that if the shares increase
for all of these defense contractors because the United States
is going to be buying a whole bunch of weapons
and sending them to Ukraine, well then that helps their
bottom line. And then on top of that, they've partnered
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with the Ukrainian government to rebuild their nation after it's
been thoroughly destroyed by war, And everyone says, well, isn't
that an altruistic thing? Well, the point being is that
if we hadn't had such a dunderheaded foreign policy for
the last fifty years regarding Russia, and we hadn't made
crazy ideological commitments to support Ukraine as long as it
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takes well, then their hospitals, their roads, their bridges wouldn't
have to be rebuilt.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Right. But it's almost as if it's not about the
necessary infrastructure. It's about who's going to make the money
on it. And Blackrock has a nifty little niche of
investing in things as sort of a parallel to the government.
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It's almost as if they have an access that is
not healthy. I didn't say legal, that is not healthy.
And by the way, I would say the same of
Goldman Sachs over the years, and the revolving door of
the leadership of Goldman Sachs and our Treasury Department should
be caused for great concern. And that's how our bailouts
and our quantitative easing is determined. But let me understand,
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and I don't want to put words into your mouth,
and you may not be ready to state definitively, but
what might potentially be a problem that you're looking to
expose with blackrocks involvement in Ukraine.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
I think one of the things that I'm curious about
is how much is the Ukrainian government paying Blackrock for
its services to devise this plan, to devise this roadmap
of how the Ukrainian government should go about courting investment
from governments, from private firms, from individuals, et cetera. In
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It's rebuilt right because right now the Ukrainian government isn't
collecting taxes right They're in the middle of a war.
They've receipts are incredibly low. Their economy has been devastated.
Right now or through the end of twenty twenty two,
the United States government has given the Ukrainian government thirteen
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billion dollars in direct budgetary aid. So that means that
their government programs can keep ongoing to the best of
their ability in this period of time. And that means
that if Blackrock is getting paid by the Ukrainian government,
and actually Blackrock is getting paid by US taxpayer dollars
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to go in and devise a scheme or a strategy
where any of their future investments or investments by other
large firms like them J C. Morgan for one, you
mentioned Goldman Sachs are ensured to be successful. So all
of these countries, all these companies that have completely destroyed
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in part the American middle class, are now being funded
by regular American tax dollars to go in and make
money handover fist in the country five thousand miles away.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Where is the money in Ukraine going because it's not
to the war effort. And how are companies like Blackrock
benefiting from it. It's an opportunity for them. We'll continue
with Bradley Devon Devlin coming up for Michael Berry shows.
Bradley Devlin is our guest. We saw an interview he
did with Tucker Carlson about who's making money out of
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the money we're spending and sending to Ukraine, Blackrock being
one of those. Bradley's our guests. The taxpayers pay for
the war and these guys swoop in and win the
peace because the peace is very profitable.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
It's just fascinating.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Yeah, that's right. And again I want to stress something
that you said a little while back that I don't know.
I'm not saying that there's anything illegal going on per se, right,
but it is a question of incentive structures, and it
is a question of the system in which we go
about assisting other countries.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Right.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
The incentive structures if we're looking at a massive multinational
financial firm like Blackrock that's invested in the defense industry,
is keep the war going on and destroy as much
of Ukraine as possible so that there's more to rebuild,
there's more to invest in, there's more to get returns on.
And you heard Zelensky say this in a d conference
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meeting with the Chamber of Commerce in Bocratne. Right, And
let's just say, let's just say this right. The Chamber
of Commerce one of the biggest proponents of open borders
and free trade policies that have destroyed the American heartland
in recent American history. So everyone seems to be wanting
to put their finger in the pie or cut themselves
a hefty slice. While the American taxpayer is being left
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with the bill.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
The American taxpayer is being left with the bill. The
American soldier is at risk of being a boot on
the ground in a potentially escalating conflict. I think there
is a lot at stake that we are poking the
bear that may not necessarily all be in the best
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interest of the United States or in the best interest
of the region as our involvement is being portrayed. There
are other interests that somehow find a way to attach
them to a profit margin. Every time we're at war,
every time there is a bailout, every time there is
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any other sort of massive governmental expenditure. And it makes
you start wondering, doesn't it, Bradley, If in fact the
money is being spent, and then they come in and say,
how do we get the slough versus them driving the
money being spent, because they're going to get a percentage
of it.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Yeah. And one thing I'd say on top of that
is thank goodness for the twenty who stood up against
Kevin McCarthy during the Speaker's race, because that means that
now we're as Republicans in the caucus, across the caucus,
not just those twenty individual members, but the entirety of
the Republican members in Congress right now that have controlled
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the House are empowered to go forward with investigations and
probes and use the subpoena powers and use the powers
of Condress to get to the bottom of what seems
to be on the surface level bizarre ways in which
the United States government has decided to go about its business.
I'm glad that they're empowered to do so. And I
think we need inspector generals, and we need investigations happening
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right now, not afterwards when all the dust settles, or
you know, ten years in like we we have with Afghanistan. No,
we need to be doing this right now. We can't
have funds mysteriously go missing in the fog of war,
or you know, well, why didn't this funding strategy not
work out? There's simply too much a stake, especially as
you said, when we're dealing with not just members of
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the Taliban, who are you know, relatively poorly armed in Afghanistan,
but an actual nuclear power that that changes the dynamics
in a serious, serious way, and our ideological commitments to
the Ukrainians, to the opposition of Russia makes all that
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a lot more difficult. You know. I see, even though
I was young when the Iraq and Afghan wars started,
I see a lot of the same type of messaging
on the pro you know, war with Russia's side to
those those earlier conflicts. And it seems like we haven't
learned our lesson and Republicans in Congress need to make
sure that there is an appetite for holding you know,
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our military brass, our State Department officials are d D officials,
the Biden administration, and members of Congress who are serious
warhawks accountable for their warmongering.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Well, and all of this, as we talked about earlier
in the show, in the context of a debt ceiling
increased discussion, which is a FATA complete. The best Republicans
are offering is, well, maybe we might get a little
bit for the border as part of it. But they
no longer even pretend, as Bayner did, that we might
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stop the debt ceiling increase. We're always going to kick
the can down the road. These are the expenditures of
a far flung empire that are unsustainable. A forever war
in Iraq, a forever war in Afghanistan, the withdrawal from which,
as you note, was botched. These are expenditures and a
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drain on our balance sheet that we simply cannot sustain
over the long haul. And it does make you wonder,
as Bradley notes, why are we spending this money and
who exactly stands to gain and work noting, Bradley, not
sounds like the source of your discussion or the thrust
(30:32):
of it, but it bears noting how much corruption has
already been exposed of the money we're spending. There is
this idea that we have to we have to assist
the Ukrainians because these are the Polls, or the Czechs,
or the Norwegians, or the French being attacked by the
Germans in World War Two, when in fact, most of
this money, almost all of this money, it's never seeing
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the front lines of a war that's a front for
guys to get paid in transfers of wealth from the
United States while their soldiers are underfunded. So it's a
little bit of a ridiculous rules.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
That were going through.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
This money's not making it to the war anyway.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Right, And you talked about corruption. I mean I remember
writing back when Russia had just started placing troops on
the Ukrainian border, and I just pointed out the fact
that let's look at the last two presidents of Ukraine
before Vladimir Zelenski, both have either been charged or convicted
of high treason. Back in two thousand and nine, there
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was a gas deal being negotiated with the Ukrainian prime minister. Well,
the prime minister was brought up on corruption charges there.
And then we just had the story last week where
several of the ministers in the I forget it's the
interior economy. There was a few ministers scattered throughout the
Ukrainian governments that had been whip and around Kiev in
black escalades and fancy rides. All this was supposed to
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be war funding that had mysteriously gone missing and they
had to resign and disgrace and people say, well, that's
the Lenski cleaning out, it's good for him. It's like, no,
this is how the country has worked for decades since
really the fall of the Soviet Union. This is how
Ukraine has worked. It is an incredibly corrupt country. Yes,
it's stuck between a rock and a hard place between
Russia and between Western Europe. And that's not a good
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Those aren't good conditions for democracy to just thrive in Ukraine.
That has always been a corrupt country. And now we've
decided to memory hold that because we, you know, our
politicians and the American government doesn't want to be held
accountable for when that ugly head initially.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Rears worth note or eventually worth noting that Tucker Carlson,
who has a background in wanting all sides to be
heard and a full conversation and vetting of public policy,
including wartime activities, has raised a number of questions about Ukraine.
And he's said that Michael McCall, Republican from Texas, was
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leading Foreign Affairs Committee chairs it I guess now, I
believe that's right. He said that McCall told him that
the Deep State had had informed McCall that Tucker Carlson
was a stooge for Putin, that he was a Russian
controlled ascid. I guess raising questions makes you dangerous, which
makes you a very dangerous man.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Bradley Devon.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Thanks Devlin, thanks for being our guest.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
Thank you
Utah has become the third state to enshrine school choice
into law, joining Arizona and Iowa. Corey DeAngelis of the
American Federation for Children says a universal school choice revolution
has ignited, adding that Arkansas, Florida, Nebraska, Oklahoma, South Carolina,
and Texas may soon follow. Over the weekend, Utah's Governor
(00:23):
Spencer Cox signed into law House Built two fifteen, which
establishes the Utah Fits All Scholarship program, providing funding for
the program as well as boosted teacher pay. House Built
two fifteen provides students with eight thousand dollars in state
funds that can be used towards private school tuition and
(00:45):
other education related expenses. The program is capped at forty
two million dollars and five thousand participants for its first year.
The legislation also increased annual teacher salaries in the state
by six thousand dollars. Despite this, the legislation faced universal
opposition from numerous public education groups, including the state Board
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of Education and the Utah Education Association. Governor Cox said
in a release statement, school choice works best when we
adequately fund public education and we remove unnecessary regulations that
burden our public schools and make it difficult for them
to succeed. We are especially appreciative of our teachers and
education leaders who helped push for more accountability measures which
(01:29):
were not included in the original bill. Deangelus says a
universal school choice revolution has ignited. Utah is the second
state this year to go all in on empowering families
with education freedom. Red states are now engaging in friendly
competition to fund students, not systems. Iowa already passed universal
(01:50):
school choice this year. The uh Public Policy Institute did
a rather extensive survey that I read to you from
last week about opinions on gambling in the state of Texas,
particularly casinos. Another of the issues that same poll tackled
(02:15):
was school choice, and it turns out that for the
first time, we always knew that We always knew that
certain demographics were for a school choice, but now we're
finding that inner city parents, including inner city black parents,
(02:35):
are now supportive of school choice. That is the death
knell to the old system. Imagine if the restaurant industry,
which I like to use because everybody eats at a
restaurant at some point or another, you may not eat
it out every night every day, but you do eat out.
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Imagine if the restaurant industry was run on the model
of the public school where nobody gets fired ever, where
you have a sense that the customer, which is the taxpayer,
has no role in the school. You know, when I
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was growing up, parents would come to the school and
sit in the back of the class. If a parent's
child was misbehaving, they would ask the school for permission.
And if he was misbehaving Miss Dowden's class, there would
(03:38):
come Bobby Thompson's dad and he would come and sit
in the back of the class one day.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
And oh, the shame for Bobby.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Oh the embarrassed Bobby.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Bobby, boyeye, good, dad's here, dude.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Oh I know he's gonna sit in on the class.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Are you serious?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Why because he's an idiot? Oh my.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
All right, dude, I gotta go. Hey, Bobby Thompson's dad's
in the back of the class. Is in the bag
of the class. He's gonna sit in the class.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Why because he got in trouble with Miss down And
I guess, Oh my god, can you imagine the embarrassment
go into class, Bobby Thompson. I want to move you
up to the front today instead of being back there
behind Wendy and pulling her pigtails all day. Bobby slams
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his book, stands up, walks to the front of the class.
I'm gonna put you right here, and she stands over
the desk right here.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
You remember those.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Desks that would have the thick metal under and you
put your books under the bottom, and you have the
little desktop on the top. They went They used to
have the wood with the veneer over plywood, but then
they went to the plastic because people would ride on
that wood to peel that widow anyway. So there she'd
tap on it till he came in that desultory fashion,
(05:15):
even puts books down, and she'd say, okay, well, then
we have a special guest today, Bobby's dad, mister Thompson.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Everybody kind of turned and then you turn to look
at your.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Hilarious Bobby's in a world of hurt. He has never
felt that level of shame ever before, and maybe not since.
Being sentenced to prison is probably not as bad as
that right there. That was a sentence right there on
the spot. His dad's trying to step in. But when
your dad's a plant worker and You're like, you know,
(05:52):
my kids going to straight and narrow or he's going
to screw up, and I'm not gonna let him screw up.
If he screws up, it's going to be despite every
thing I have to do, I have no shame. All
I want is the best for my kid. And the
class is awkward. Let's be honest, it's not a typical class.
Miss Dowding is over she's overdoing it. You know, she's
(06:13):
overly nice, enunciating when she asks questions, she's solicitous in
a way that she wouldn't normally be. She's very attentive.
And then the class is over and Bobby shoots out
there and his dad feels like, Okay, I got my
point across. What would happen if parents came back into
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the classroom at public schools sat in the back. The
sad thing is, I wonder how many kids parents would
be willing, even if they could afford to, because they
have jobs during the day. How many parents would care
enough to go and see exactly what's going on. Oversight, accountability, responsibility, consequences.
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That's how you get results in everything I've ever done,
whether it's your weight loss, whether it's training for a marathon,
there's training for a sporting event, training for an exam,
building a company. If you lack those things, you will fail.
And our public schools lack those things. So give parents choices,
so good schools.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Will be rewarded.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
They're jobs.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Don't use that tone to me.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Not a joke.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
That's sarcastic, contemptuous tone. That means you know everything because
you're a man, and I know nothing because I'm a woman.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
That is not a joke. That is a natural fact.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
The Michael Verry Show. A year or two ago, I
was watching No Country for Old Men, and Tommy Lee
Jones's character, if you recall, is the sheriff who never
really unholsters his gun. He never has to draw, and
the Mexican cartels have brought a level of violence to
(08:03):
the streets that he can't even understand. The firepower far
exceeds anything he's got, and he just can't understand how
the world has gone to hell. It just can't understand it.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
So he goes to.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
His mentor, and he's talking to his mentor, and his
mentor's trying to explain how crazy the world has become,
and he refers to Signs and Wonders. And when I
heard that, I thought, you know, that's how I feel
about some of the crazy news stories of how on
earth can this actually happen? How do you reach such
(08:42):
a point of depravity? I really have to wonder. Well.
Our latest installment of Signs and Wonders comes to you
from Chicago, Illinois.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
It's all the damn money, income money, and the drugs.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
It's just help me everything.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
What's it mean?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
What's it leading to?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
If you'd have told me twenty years ago, i'd see
children walk in the streets of our Texas towns with
the green hair bones in their noses, and it fled out,
wouldn't have bleak Signs and Wonders.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
But I think once you quit here in, sir and ma'am,
rest of them to follow. Oh, it's the tide.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
It's the dismal pad.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
It is not the one that the one thing signs
and walkers, Sir, mam, resters.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Signs and wonders. It's the digital pown signs and wonders,
Signs and wonders.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
So credit for this story comes from Fox thirty two
in Chicago, and.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
It's ugly.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
We began with a tragic story in the Southwest suburbs
after teens take a stolen Kia for a deadly joy ride.
Robin's Police say three thirteen year old boys were inside
a stolen Kia with the driver's side window busted out,
driving on Kedzie Avenue at about two thirty this afternoon.
Police started to follow the Kia when it collided with
another car, killing a seventy one year old man who
(10:11):
was driving. Neighbors tell us the man lived in a
nearby apartment complex.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
It's terrible, terrible.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I don't even think they'd taken driver's head, So how
are you stealing a car? He's very unfortunate, said said.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
The teens were all arrested at the scene.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
The amazing thing is that that woman is most bothered
that they haven't taken drivers in. That's the least of
their worries. Before you say, well, they're just children doing
childish things, let me remind you of Latarian.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Milton.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Latarian was seven years old when he stole his grandma's car.
When asked why he did it, he said that he
wanted to do hood rat stuff with his friends. He
wanted to do hood rat stuff with his friends. That
went viral in two thousand and nine, but you've already
(11:12):
forgotten it. He was seven years old. You have a
seven year old boy stealing a car and saying funny
stuff on the news. Let's go back to that original report.
This is a seven year old kid, a first grader.
(11:33):
Credit WPF News in West Palm.
Speaker 8 (11:35):
Beach, Latarian Milton is not your typical seven year old.
If you his age, have ever driven an suv up
and down several busy streets. It all started at his
mother's townhouse. Latarian says he took the car keys and
hopped into his grandmother's dodge duringo.
Speaker 9 (11:48):
When I came through the back door, I looked on
the counter, my keys were gone.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I took my grandma Cather because they got mad at
my mom. And then I saw him have my friend
come in and he smoked with cigarettes.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
He started the vehicle that put it into gear. I
yanked the I yanked it.
Speaker 9 (12:03):
I yanked the.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
Thing, and off they went. Two seven year olds alone
on the road. Latarian drove several miles through Lake Park
and Palm Beach Gardens.
Speaker 9 (12:11):
We got the one called that he told you about
of a driver in the vehicle who looked too short
to be able to see it the stereo.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Along the way, he ran over two mailboxes, hit two
parked cars in a Costco parking lot, and struck two
moving cars near Walmart. I want to do it because it's
fun funny. Do bad things drive into a car? So
did you know that you could perhaps kill somebody?
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
But I wanted to do hoo orsh stuff with my friend.
Speaker 8 (12:31):
It all ended on Investment Lane and Consumer Drive. That's
where Latarian hit the curb inside, swiped the sign. The
SUV took most of the beating, snapping off one of
his axles and wheels.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
A grandmother's rage.
Speaker 9 (12:42):
I want to whip his behind. That's what I want
to do right now. If I thought they wouldn't take
me to jail, I'd whip his behind right now.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
You don't think he should be punished for all of this.
There's a little bit, no video games for a whole weekend,
and one unusual story for police.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Are you sorry?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
You understand that now you're Grandma's gonna have to pay.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
To have those cars sticks because you hit those cars.
Speaker 9 (13:04):
Can my mom help up?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I don't know, Can you mom help her?
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Well?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
You moved on.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
As we all did, but Latarian didn't. Two weeks after that,
he attacked his grandmother because she wouldn't buy him chicken wings.
Nine years later, he found himself in trouble again. Want
to guess what he did? This time he carjacked a
car with his friends once again. WPBF twenty five news.
Speaker 8 (13:32):
Latarian Milton spent about ten minutes in court this morning.
He learned that he will not be able to go
home anytime soon. He will have to wait to hear
from the judge the next court day. We last spoke
with Latarian Milton in twenty fifteen. He had just completed
middle school and was looking forward to the next step.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
And I did the.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
School in high school because he had found the football
team had some good success.
Speaker 8 (13:53):
Here this is Milton entering Westbalm Beach courtroom Monday to
face charge of stemming from an arm robbery and carjacket
Beach County Chief Stepant. He say a lift driver picked
up four young males and a female early Sunday morning
and drove them to a windor away in West Palm Beach.
That's where the female exited the vehicle. Investigators say the
suspects told the driver to take them to another location.
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When the driver refused, authorities say one of the suspects
pulled out a handgun and hit the driver in the
back of the head. The driver says he got out
of the car and was robbed of his wallat and jacket.
He later told deputies that Milton, who was in the
front passenger seat, got out and hopped into the driver's
seat and sped away with the other suspects. According to investigators,
the driver gave detectives a phone number which led to
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the identification of Milton. Deputy's arrested Milton Sunday afternoon. We
first met Milton in two thousand and seven, when he
was seven years old. He had just stolen his grandmother's
SUV and went on a joy ride through Lake Park
in Palm Beach Gardens.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I want to do it cause it's fun, funny do
bad things. Drives into a car, So did you know
that you could perhaps kill somebody? Yes, boy, I wanted
to do hood stuff with my friend.
Speaker 9 (14:56):
If I thought they wouldn't take me to jail, I'd
whip thisiss behind right now.
Speaker 8 (15:00):
Back in court, the judge ordered Milton to remain at
a juvenile facility until his next court.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Day, Miltarian would be sentenced to fifteen years in prison
for that crime. The streets have replaced fathers in the home.
You know, I've played this clip before, but maybe it's
never been more appropriate than now. It was Denzel Washington
when he was asked about the importance of the father
in the home.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
You know, incarceration rates in America has been a problem,
especially as opposed to minorities, and Roman delvez into this,
the issues around the legal system. Do you think we've
made any headway?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
And I think it's more important to make headway in
our own house. By the time the system comes into play,
the damage is done. They're not locking up seven year olds. Yeah.
You know, I was in Chicago a couple of three
four weeks ago, and we saw these little kids on
bikes with masks on the side of the head, like
five or six of them. And the drivers said, yeah,
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they little yummies. I said, who said little yummies? Look
up Google little yam Little yummy was a eleven year
old murderer. Wow. And you look at his picture, you'll
see the headshot him and he's like this And he
got murdered at eleven by a fourteen year old. Wow,
who's doing life now? And a sixteen year old?
Speaker 4 (16:14):
That makes no sense.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
You blame the system. Where was his father? It starts
in the house, It starts in the home. And yeah, well,
well when my father got locked up? Or where was
his father?
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
You know, like I did, talk about my three closest friends,
and they did you know, fifteen to twenty five? One
did twenty eight this and that I was the only
one of the three to have a father in my life,
even though my parents were together. But I still had
a father who was a gentle man and a good example.
And they didn't We can blame the system if we won,
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but they didn't lock any of us up at seven. Yeah,
we were all doing enough to get locked up at thirteen.
My parents sent me in another direction. They didn't have
anybody to help them, kept doing what they was doing,
and the system got them. So I don't know, the
system is rigged, But why all the more reason not
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to help?
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Can you take care of your down?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Think about it?
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Michael?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Why? Ever, wonder what exactly is going on with Ukraine?
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Ever?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Wonder how it is that this country has so much
involvement with America's politically connected families, including but not limited
to the Bidens, Or why it just happens to be
that it was a Ukrainian oil company, Barisma, where Hunter
Biden was getting paid all this money and Joe Biden
goes over and says, you got to fire the ag
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in order to get this aid from America. Ever, wonder
why it is we choose to spend billions in Ukraine
when we don't in many other countries. If you're telling
me it's to stop Russian aggression, hmm. If you're telling
me it's because a weaker nation has been attacked by
a stronger one. I can point to ten others that
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we don't in, say Africa, for a number of different reasons.
It almost seems to me that the presidents of those
nations need to do better at giving kickbacks to Hunter Biden,
or they need to find better incentives for the people
in this country that make those deals happen. Bradley Devlin
is a staff reporter from the American for The American Conservative,
(18:21):
formerly an an analysis reporter for The Daily Caller. He's
been published in a Daily Wire, Daily Signal talking about
how one of the biggest investment firms Blackrock Have you
heard that name before? Are striking deals to help rebuild Ukraine. Bradley,
let me ask you how this story first came across
your radar, how you got interested in it, and then
(18:44):
how do you begin to navigate a world where there's
not a lot of public information available to tell this story?
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Well, first off, thanks for having me. I really appreciate
coming on and talking about this issue because it's so important,
especially when we've looked at the last thirty years of
American foreign policy, really, you know, going in destabilizing nations
and promising to rebuild them in our own image. And
this is exactly what's going on with Ukraine. You know,
(19:14):
it's funny we turned off the spigot for the military
industrial complex in Afghanistan by Biden actually doing a good thing, right,
holding to the promise that President Trump made that we
would leave Afghanistan, even though he delayed the timeline and
botched the withdrawal. Nevertheless, I think it's better that our
troops are home. Well, as soon as we turn off
that pigot, another one turns on, and that's obviously Russia's
(19:36):
invasion of Ukraine. And this interested me because everyone involved,
just like as you said in the intro, right Biden
promising to fire that ag, boasting about how he got
the ag fired when there was a clear conflict of
interest there. The same thing's happening now where Black Rock
and the Ukrainian government are actually boasting about out bringing
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in some of the worst people in the world to
rebuild their country and make money hand over fist. And
so it was press releases, it was statements from the
Ukrainian government dating back to last September when Larry Fink,
the CEO of Blackrock, and Zelensky first met by video teleconference.
And yeah, it's really difficult. It's a lot of opaque information.
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You don't actually get the numbers because those are oftentimes
private or will be released in due time, obviously before
it's you know, after it's too late to stop all
the all the madness. So yeah, I'm still working hard
on trying to track down exactly how Blackrock has been
involved in our reconstruction of various nations that we've decided
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to help or decided to invade and then rebuild in
the name of liberal democracy. But one thing is clear.
If you just go on CNN Money right now, and
I'd encourage all you listeners to do this. If you
just go on CNN Money right now and you check
out Black Rocks positions in every single major defense contractor
whether it's North of Grumman or General Dynamics or Boeing
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or Lockheed Martin. They have about a five percent stake
in every single one of these companies. So they have
a five percent stake, meaning that if the shares increase
for all of these defense contractors because the United States
is going to be buying a whole bunch of weapons
and sending them to Ukraine, well then that helps their
bottom line. And then on top of that, they've partnered
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with the Ukrainian government to rebuild their nation after it's
been thoroughly destroyed by war, And everyone says, well, isn't
that an altruistic thing? Well, the point being is that
if we hadn't had such a dunderheaded foreign policy for
the last fifty years regarding Russia, and we hadn't made
crazy ideological commitments to support Ukraine as long as it
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takes well, then their hospitals, their roads, their bridges wouldn't
have to be rebuilt.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Right. But it's almost as if it's not about the
necessary infrastructure. It's about who's going to make the money
on it. And Blackrock has a nifty little niche of
investing in things as sort of a parallel to the government.
(22:22):
It's almost as if they have an access that is
not healthy. I didn't say legal, that is not healthy.
And by the way, I would say the same of
Goldman Sachs over the years, and the revolving door of
the leadership of Goldman Sachs and our Treasury Department should
be caused for great concern. And that's how our bailouts
and our quantitative easing is determined. But let me understand,
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and I don't want to put words into your mouth,
and you may not be ready to state definitively, but
what might potentially be a problem that you're looking to
expose with blackrocks involvement in Ukraine.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
I think one of the things that I'm curious about
is how much is the Ukrainian government paying Blackrock for
its services to devise this plan, to devise this roadmap
of how the Ukrainian government should go about courting investment
from governments, from private firms, from individuals, et cetera. In
(23:24):
It's rebuilt right because right now the Ukrainian government isn't
collecting taxes right They're in the middle of a war.
They've receipts are incredibly low. Their economy has been devastated.
Right now or through the end of twenty twenty two,
the United States government has given the Ukrainian government thirteen
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billion dollars in direct budgetary aid. So that means that
their government programs can keep ongoing to the best of
their ability in this period of time. And that means
that if Blackrock is getting paid by the Ukrainian government,
and actually Blackrock is getting paid by US taxpayer dollars
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to go in and devise a scheme or a strategy
where any of their future investments or investments by other
large firms like them J C. Morgan for one, you
mentioned Goldman Sachs are ensured to be successful. So all
of these countries, all these companies that have completely destroyed
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in part the American middle class, are now being funded
by regular American tax dollars to go in and make
money handover fist in the country five thousand miles away.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Where is the money in Ukraine going because it's not
to the war effort. And how are companies like Blackrock
benefiting from it. It's an opportunity for them. We'll continue
with Bradley Devon Devlin coming up for Michael Berry shows.
Bradley Devlin is our guest. We saw an interview he
did with Tucker Carlson about who's making money out of
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the money we're spending and sending to Ukraine, Blackrock being
one of those. Bradley's our guests. The taxpayers pay for
the war and these guys swoop in and win the
peace because the peace is very profitable.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
It's just fascinating.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Yeah, that's right. And again I want to stress something
that you said a little while back that I don't know.
I'm not saying that there's anything illegal going on per se, right,
but it is a question of incentive structures, and it
is a question of the system in which we go
about assisting other countries.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Right.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
The incentive structures if we're looking at a massive multinational
financial firm like Blackrock that's invested in the defense industry,
is keep the war going on and destroy as much
of Ukraine as possible so that there's more to rebuild,
there's more to invest in, there's more to get returns on.
And you heard Zelensky say this in a d conference
(26:00):
meeting with the Chamber of Commerce in Bocratne. Right, And
let's just say, let's just say this right. The Chamber
of Commerce one of the biggest proponents of open borders
and free trade policies that have destroyed the American heartland
in recent American history. So everyone seems to be wanting
to put their finger in the pie or cut themselves
a hefty slice. While the American taxpayer is being left
(26:24):
with the bill.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
The American taxpayer is being left with the bill. The
American soldier is at risk of being a boot on
the ground in a potentially escalating conflict. I think there
is a lot at stake that we are poking the
bear that may not necessarily all be in the best
(26:45):
interest of the United States or in the best interest
of the region as our involvement is being portrayed. There
are other interests that somehow find a way to attach
them to a profit margin. Every time we're at war,
every time there is a bailout, every time there is
(27:07):
any other sort of massive governmental expenditure. And it makes
you start wondering, doesn't it, Bradley, If in fact the
money is being spent, and then they come in and say,
how do we get the slough versus them driving the
money being spent, because they're going to get a percentage
of it.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Yeah. And one thing I'd say on top of that
is thank goodness for the twenty who stood up against
Kevin McCarthy during the Speaker's race, because that means that
now we're as Republicans in the caucus, across the caucus,
not just those twenty individual members, but the entirety of
the Republican members in Congress right now that have controlled
(27:48):
the House are empowered to go forward with investigations and
probes and use the subpoena powers and use the powers
of Condress to get to the bottom of what seems
to be on the surface level bizarre ways in which
the United States government has decided to go about its business.
I'm glad that they're empowered to do so. And I
think we need inspector generals, and we need investigations happening
(28:13):
right now, not afterwards when all the dust settles, or
you know, ten years in like we we have with Afghanistan. No,
we need to be doing this right now. We can't
have funds mysteriously go missing in the fog of war,
or you know, well, why didn't this funding strategy not
work out? There's simply too much a stake, especially as
you said, when we're dealing with not just members of
(28:35):
the Taliban, who are you know, relatively poorly armed in Afghanistan,
but an actual nuclear power that that changes the dynamics
in a serious, serious way, and our ideological commitments to
the Ukrainians, to the opposition of Russia makes all that
(28:56):
a lot more difficult. You know. I see, even though
I was young when the Iraq and Afghan wars started,
I see a lot of the same type of messaging
on the pro you know, war with Russia's side to
those those earlier conflicts. And it seems like we haven't
learned our lesson and Republicans in Congress need to make
sure that there is an appetite for holding you know,
(29:20):
our military brass, our State Department officials are d D officials,
the Biden administration, and members of Congress who are serious
warhawks accountable for their warmongering.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Well, and all of this, as we talked about earlier
in the show, in the context of a debt ceiling
increased discussion, which is a FATA complete. The best Republicans
are offering is, well, maybe we might get a little
bit for the border as part of it. But they
no longer even pretend, as Bayner did, that we might
(29:51):
stop the debt ceiling increase. We're always going to kick
the can down the road. These are the expenditures of
a far flung empire that are unsustainable. A forever war
in Iraq, a forever war in Afghanistan, the withdrawal from which,
as you note, was botched. These are expenditures and a
(30:12):
drain on our balance sheet that we simply cannot sustain
over the long haul. And it does make you wonder,
as Bradley notes, why are we spending this money and
who exactly stands to gain and work noting, Bradley, not
sounds like the source of your discussion or the thrust
(30:32):
of it, but it bears noting how much corruption has
already been exposed of the money we're spending. There is
this idea that we have to we have to assist
the Ukrainians because these are the Polls, or the Czechs,
or the Norwegians, or the French being attacked by the
Germans in World War Two, when in fact, most of
this money, almost all of this money, it's never seeing
(30:53):
the front lines of a war that's a front for
guys to get paid in transfers of wealth from the
United States while their soldiers are underfunded. So it's a
little bit of a ridiculous rules.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
That were going through.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
This money's not making it to the war anyway.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Right, And you talked about corruption. I mean I remember
writing back when Russia had just started placing troops on
the Ukrainian border, and I just pointed out the fact
that let's look at the last two presidents of Ukraine
before Vladimir Zelenski, both have either been charged or convicted
of high treason. Back in two thousand and nine, there
(31:33):
was a gas deal being negotiated with the Ukrainian prime minister. Well,
the prime minister was brought up on corruption charges there.
And then we just had the story last week where
several of the ministers in the I forget it's the
interior economy. There was a few ministers scattered throughout the
Ukrainian governments that had been whip and around Kiev in
black escalades and fancy rides. All this was supposed to
(31:58):
be war funding that had mysteriously gone missing and they
had to resign and disgrace and people say, well, that's
the Lenski cleaning out, it's good for him. It's like, no,
this is how the country has worked for decades since
really the fall of the Soviet Union. This is how
Ukraine has worked. It is an incredibly corrupt country. Yes,
it's stuck between a rock and a hard place between
Russia and between Western Europe. And that's not a good
(32:19):
Those aren't good conditions for democracy to just thrive in Ukraine.
That has always been a corrupt country. And now we've
decided to memory hold that because we, you know, our
politicians and the American government doesn't want to be held
accountable for when that ugly head initially.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Rears worth note or eventually worth noting that Tucker Carlson,
who has a background in wanting all sides to be
heard and a full conversation and vetting of public policy,
including wartime activities, has raised a number of questions about Ukraine.
And he's said that Michael McCall, Republican from Texas, was
(32:58):
leading Foreign Affairs Committee chairs it I guess now, I
believe that's right. He said that McCall told him that
the Deep State had had informed McCall that Tucker Carlson
was a stooge for Putin, that he was a Russian
controlled ascid. I guess raising questions makes you dangerous, which
makes you a very dangerous man.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Bradley Devon.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Thanks Devlin, thanks for being our guest.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
Thank you
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