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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time, time, luck and load. So Michael
Very show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I probably had twenty emails and said crazy twin to
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train with him minutes.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I disagree. I think the song.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Starts kind of crashing that you can't you can't ignore
the song. If you're in an arena and the song
comes on, you can't just keep having a normal conversation
while this.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Is playing in the background.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
By the way, it's Ozzy Osborne's birthday, or that m hm,
there is John Michael Osborne here, or to the chorus,
and I still don't think it's yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I still.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
And this song plays in my head when I know
somebody's crazy. That's how I get through being around somebody
that's crazy. Happening right now, South Korea's president has just
declared their emergency martial law, saying the measure is necessary
to protect the country from the North's communist forces. All
media outlets are now under government control due.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
To martial law.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
In South Korea, stock markets started down this morning.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I don't know what's going on. It's interesting.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
I have received a number of emails from people that
I consider.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
To be.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Above average savvy on financial and economic matters. And they're
in a panic. And I must say I'm disappointed because
I assume, I guess I give people too much credit.
And to a man, their concern is Trump's tariffs, is
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tariffs are going to tank the economy. TERFs are gonna
do this, this terror, terrors are gonna go terriffom And
I realize and that this is a This is an
unfortunate state to be in that many people base their
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reaction of what's going on in the world based on
what is delivered to them in a news article. And
the problem with that, and this is not it's gonna
sound like I'm intending to insult, but I'm not. If
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you've ever known a newsman personally.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
You would be shocked.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
At how little actual understanding these people have of the
news they are reporting, which varies from the effects of
interest rates on inflation, to geopolitical developments, hot spots, wars
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beginning and ending, trade policies, and people don't understand the
tariff discussion. So let me explain it to you in
as simple as terms as I can. And there's always
going to be some jackass out there who feels the
need to tell me that they were once this or
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that and how smart they are. Well, you can't have
that conversation with the general public, So you don't need
to send me an email because I don't know why
it bothers me so much.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
But it does. It does well.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Of you left out that one time in seventy eight
when oil prices went high and inflation got real high,
and yeah, you're right, I did. So I'm going to
make this as simple as I can so everybody can
understand it in a way that the media is not
going to do. And there's a reason behind that. The
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meet let me let me start with what they're going
to do. Media is going to say Trump tariffs are
going to hurt you. Okay, The three countries he has
threatened to slap with terrorifts on day one are Canada, China,
and I can't wait for him to be back president
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and says say China all the time, and Mexico, Mexico, Canada, China.
And so people say they don't know why they've just
heard that tariffs are going to have an uncertainty makes
people uncomfortable. Well, let me ask you this. Let's let's
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say we're not talking TIFFs. Let's say we're doing a
requirement that everybody in a portunicular country has to twirl
around three times.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Okay, well that's gonna be bad.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Why I don't know. I just reading an article, or
the headline was it's gonna be bad? Well, how does
everybody twirling around three times hurt us? I don't care
if it hurts the other country? Why has that hurt us?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
They were just saying that that Trump's requirement that everybody's
spent around three times, people will get dizzy or some
mean I actually don't know. I don't know what it was.
They were just saying. The headline was. Twitter instituted a
thing a few years ago when people would forward an
article or repost an article, they said would you like
to read the article? And people got mad about it.
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But the reason people get mad about it is because
they don't read the article. They see the headline and
based on the headline, which was written by design to
get reaction. That's the term clickbait. It was written to
get people interest and run of the meal data is
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not fascinating, and people need that hit. They need that
hit of what's it called endorphins. They need the endorphins
of rage. Everybody's raged all the time. Have you seen
a president since we attacked Iraq, which, in the grand
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scheme of things, a pretty tiny country considering how big
we are. Have you ever seen a president in your lifetime,
going back to Reagan and Star Wars, who had the
attention of world leaders the way Trump does. No, The
answer is no, you haven't. Without threatening to drop a
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bomb or send our troops. On day one, Trump will
have already brought about more change by getting other people
to do what he wants them to do than any
president in twenty five years. And you have to take
George W. Bush out of that, because you had to
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have a war, a physical military war to do that.
Trump's threat and he's brilliant at this. And I am
surprised how many sophisticated people, I know, very smart leaders
of companies have said to me, I'm worried, I'm worried,
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what's going to happen? What's gonna happen? What would be
the fear? You're worried that China can't dump their product?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Do you think China is.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Not going to bend to his will when their biggest
market closes its doors?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Just in here listening to Michael Berry.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
I know this is a billy squire, but if I
were to submit a song that most sounds like led
Zeppelin that's not, that would.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Probably be it.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
He's got a Robert Page vibe to him. So the
United States has allowed itself to become the butt of
jokes around the world, perhaps unspoken jokes, but policies. To
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be sure, if we were to shut our market, our
consumer market to China tomorrow, but leaving aside how much
teeth gnashing people would do because they wouldn't be able
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to get their cheap junk. If we were to do
that would crash China. It would cost suffering here. There's
no doubt about that. There are many inputs to our
manufacturing process, to the manufacturing.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
We do do.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
There are many retailers we have become, and this is
not all bad. We have become a nation that makes
fewer things and sells more things. You can still create
wealth in the churn. Our problem as a nation is
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that we have grown comfortable with the comfort and convenience
of extremely cheap products. Other countries could make products far
cheaper than we could for many years, but they couldn't
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invade the American economy because the cost of transportation was prohibitive.
Once the transportation conundrum was resolved, that changed everything. Now
Here is the dilemma that we have difficulty confronting. And
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this is sort of like the household that takes on
credit card debt every month and then takes a credit
card to pay off a credit card, and then takes
another credit card to pay off the credit card that
it paid off. There's gonna come a day of reckoning,
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and the day of reckoning is going to feel like
a horrible thing has happened, and how did this horrible
thing happen? Well, it's death by a thousand cuts. It
happened a little bit, but it's Look, if you've got
to lose one hundred pounds and you got to do
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it in two days, nothing short of a massive surgery,
and I mean it's going to be traumatic. But if
you took three years to do it, you could do
minor calorie deprivation for three hundred and sixty five days
a year. Add in muscle training, add in drinking more water, and.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Cut out just a cut.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
You could do it with minimal suffering over a long
period of time. But people don't want that, do they.
They want the immediate reaction. Our problem is that we
Americans are mostly we wear two hats or two sides
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to this coin. One of them is the consumer and
we are not me. But Americans are extremely priced sensitive
to the extent that quality is almost of zero concern.
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Quality is not something that people care about any longer.
And you can see it and they'll say they do,
but they don't. They want cheap, and in fact, they
don't just want cheap because they need cheap. Cheap has
become its own almost religion.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
There is this brag factor.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
There is an endorphin rush for people that they buy
something at a price that is far less than it
is being priced to other people.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
You've got all these websites.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Now, you see it advertised on television, you see it
on the internet where they'll say I.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Got this cam run for four dollars and.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
All you have to do is join this club or
follow this website. Well, it's unsustainable that you could buy
the camera at four dollars.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
They did.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
They sold one at four dollars so that they could
they could, They could say that, but it is the
pursuit of the deal so much so that people will buy.
I want to say the sh.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Word because it's so perfect.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
At that point, people will buy crap that when you
say they don't need, they don't even really want, they may.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Never use, with the idea that it's cheap.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Well, in order to do that, you had to reduce
the cost of every input, and the greatest input cost
for the last hundred years. Once we learned how to
extract rubber and how to tan leather, and how to
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create synthetic fibers and synthetic composites, plastics, nylon, pleather, you
name it. Once that happened, it was only a matter
of time until the inputs. Because that now you can
create clothing out of a workshop, out of a warehouse.
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You no longer need to have livestock that you kill
and take their skin. So you start driving the cost
down of products, which had been happening for quite some time.
But the factor that could not be resolved was the
labor cost.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
And you couldn't.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Resolve the labor cost with American labor. That's impossible. That's
simply not going to happen, and that's a next segment.
But you would have to have living conditions and pay
wages that we simply will not tolerate.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Here.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
We literally make them illegal, so it's not going to
happen here, but people still do it.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Right, that's where.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
The illegal alien issue comes in. But that's less a
function in manufactured products as it is housing, agriculture, domestic
those sorts of things, lawn care. So China created a
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situation where their labor they were able to keep their
labor costs so low, and they solved the cost of goods,
and they solved the transportation, so now you could dump
these products here. And that's why we've got contained. We're
overwhelmed with containers. The American consumer wants the cheapest product ever,
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and they don't care that it's not quality, it doesn't last,
it's not dependable. Right, it's not just a status thing
that don't care. But the American consumer is also a
wage earner, and the American wage earner demands the highest
possible wages. And so you've got this real dilemma because
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those two cannot exist simultaneously. And that gutted American manufacturer.
It meant that we had to But let me say this,
because there's more to this story. That American labor is
being replaced by technology, which is our only opportunity to compete.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
The Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Trump number one way to have the world at his doorstep,
begging to do his bidding is to close off the
American marketplace to them. America's consumer, not our manufacturer. Our
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consumer marketplace is by far the largest consumer marketplace. It
is the number one marketplace for goods for most countries
in the world. I'd have to pull the numbers, but
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for most countries Japan, China, South Korea, Mexico, Canada. If
America were suddenly somehow obliterated and didn't exist, those countries
would be plunged into a deep depression. And so what
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Trump is doing is this is what a sophisticated business owner,
a sophisticated negotiator does. You walk into a negotiation, you
punch the other guy in the nose, and you walk out.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Maybe leave your business.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Card, here's how you can reach me.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
And if that.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Guy wants to do business with you, you've just told
him or we're not playing around any longer. Okay, I
am putting on the table that which I'm going to do.
Trump's greatest asset. And this wouldn't be a functioning democratic
republic if this happened. But Trump's greatest asset in a
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purely strategic manner would be him threatening tariffs on China, Canada,
Mexico and everybody else for that matter, and America cheering
saying good, keep that foreign garbage out of here, and
a good stoking of xenophobia. We don't want Swiss cheese,
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Italian tomatoes, French wines, we don't want any of it.
If that were to happen, it would set off a
worldwide panic from which we would also not be immune
in the short term. So what people are going to
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focus on, because this is a ploy he is enacting
to get these people to do what he wants to
get immediate See, he's got to bend other countries to
his will, and the only way he can do that
is not through diplomacy.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
It's not through asking nicely.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
They don't have an interest in helping him succeed, in fact,
quite the opposite, and so for him to do that,
he has to do that against their will. And the
best example I can give you of that was in
twenty sixteen when he's running for president. Jeff Zucker was
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then the head of CNN, and CNN had done a
medical report something they thought was really important on some
medical condition. This is how it's being try. It doesn't
matter it didn't air. It's the point of the story.
And that story was on prime time. They had worked
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on it for six months, eight months, and it had
been promoted, and in their mind they had built an
audience for something that was very meaningful.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
That's their art, that's you know, the people involved with this. Heck,
I take our show seriously.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Can you imagine you've been You've done all your interviews,
you've had your production, you put it together, you screened out.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Here we go.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
This is at our hot That's going to be a meaningful,
substantive story, hour long special. And Zucker called in and said,
flip to Trump. He's given a speech and they had
a walkout. See if you do that, you're gonna have
a walkout if everybody's involved in this program, I don't care.
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Flip to Trump and what Zucker did. Zucker was an
old friend of his. I believe Zucker had been at
NBC before that, but I know they had a background
together in television. And remember Trump was the executive producer
of the top show on television, without previously having spent
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a day in television writing production, marketing. He has instincts
that are unparalleled, and those instincts are better in some
cases in people's field of practice that they have spent
an entire career on. He's never you know, people get
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angry at him over the things he says, and he
doesn't have consultants around him because we we have credentialism issues.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
We need people who've you.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Know, we need Lee Atwater to be there.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
What George hw Bush needed Lee Atwater?
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Trump doesn't. We need Carl Rove to be there. What
George W. Bush needed Carl Rove Trump doesn't. Trump has
a gut. It's not one hundred percent, but nobody is.
It's so much better than the conventional wisdom of the
people who are all in an echo chamber. Most industries
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fail to ever grow because they never bring in any
outside expertise and they never think beyond this is how
things have always been done, and this is how they
always will be done. American car manufacturers should be ashamed
of themselves that this upstart South African created full self
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driving right under their noses. I think that Tesla truck,
that Chance has, that cyber truck, I think it's hideous.
It leads me almost to depression. I imagine I'm reading
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What's the Kafka's the opening of Kafka's The Metamorphosis. They
think that the cyber truck is space age, but to me,
it looks like what you would drive, what the Soviets
would come in on in the mid fifties and.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Hungary, but full self driving.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
How did American car makers not do that because they
all did exactly the same that they had always done the.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Mean, are you submitting this as a song that starts
wrong and goes we Jim?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Did you disagree? Never really got into Jethro Tall.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
I listened because I felt like I was supposed to,
because it was the sort of thing that you know,
you should know certain things and and this is you know,
and Jethro tell has has that sort of reputation. But
I never listened and thought, wow, that's good, partly because
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that particular song is kind of disjointed, right, it's it's uh,
it's frenetic, it never gets a.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
I never really yet.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
I think you have to have a little bit of
a jangled mind to really enjoy that. I can't believe
y'all nobody has brought this story to my attention, not
one person. And I don't know if y'all just don't
know or you don't care. But this is a crazy headline.
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Why not a judge? Why not?
Speaker 3 (26:10):
A judge's daughter?
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Grace Kelly arrested for allegedly stealing church van from pastor's home.
Now you have to say allegedly because it hasn't been
adjudicated yet, but this is kind of one.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Of those Was she in.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
The church van?
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Yes? Is she why on a judge's daughter?
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Yes? Does the pastor say he didn't give her the
keys and tell her to take it? Yes? This is
not one of those where you think, well, we have
to wait and see what happened.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
There.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
There are so many different ways this story could go.
Whyonah Judd's daughter, Grace Kelly arrested for allegedly stealing church
van from pastors home. So first of all, you start
with Wyonah and that immediately so you anytime you hear
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Whyona Judd, your brain automatically does what my brain does.
You go, Okay, is she the hot one that was
crazy that stole somef from the grocery store? No? No,
she's part of the mother daughter team. Wait a second,
if I remember correctly. The mother was one hundred years
old and fine as frog's hair, and the daughter was
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big and obviously, you know, sixteen years younger, and that
always made it kind of weird.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
You know.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
The mom was she Naomi? What was her name? The mom?
In addition to being smoking hot forever, she ended up
getting with a bunch of do you know the whole
story behind now? She ended up getting with I can't remember, huh.
I can't remember who it was, but it was a like,
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I'm gonna give you a list of the kind of guys,
and out of this.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
List, she was probably with three, okay.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Jerry Reid, Glenn Campbell, Elvis uh, Charlton Heston, Steve McQueen, who.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Isaac.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
I don't think she went into that yet. That wasn't
it the whole black bad boy thing for hot white
women that started about the Jimmy Hendrix era that that
didn't happen so much before that?
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Why?
Speaker 4 (28:46):
NOA just so your immediate thought is, okay, which first
before I can process this story? Which one's? Whyona? Okay,
She's not the one that stole from the grocery store.
She's part of the duet that wanted their Grandpa to
sing to them or tell stories, and so she's the one.
She's the big one. Okay, all right, Well that had
to be hard because you it's like the first time
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you meet somebody that's got a funny name and you
make a joke about it and then you're thinking what
they're thinking?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
But why I never heard that one before?
Speaker 4 (29:19):
You know that you're the ones like, hey, I know
this is weird, but like it was just crazy, but
I'm actually more into your mom.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Yeah we know.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Okay, everybody knows whin Ona Judge's daughter, Grace Kelly arrested
for allegedly stealing church van from pastors home. Then that
brings up the question of all the things you can steal,
why would you steal the church van? Third time's a charm.
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Winona Judge's daughter was arrested again, and this time for
allegedly stealing a Charlottesville church's van. The New York Post
has confirmed Grace Kelly, twenty eight, was taken into custody
in Virginia on Sunday, October twenty seventh, and faces seven charges,
including three counts of felony, grand larceny, driving without a license,
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destruction of property with intent, failure to use headlights, and
setting in motion a vehicle with intent to commit a crime,
per the County Police Department. The police spokesman told the
Post that Kelly is still in lock up at the
Charlottesville Regional Jail.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Oh, you got to tell people what you did. That's
a worse.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
What are you in here for? I shot a man
in Reno? How come just to watch him die? That's
pretty cool?
Speaker 3 (30:50):
What about you? I stole a van?
Speaker 4 (30:56):
What kind of van?
Speaker 3 (30:57):
A church van?
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Ooh?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
You still on that side of lightning strikes from where
pastor's house. The Daily Progress was the first report that
Judge's daughter was arrested after allegedly stealing Ground Zero Church
of the Nazarene Church's van. The church later confirmed the
news on a go fundme page. Yes, because anytime anything happens,
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the first thing we need to do is set up
a GoFundMe page.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Our Green Church. Oh this is a hideous van.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Oh my goodness, our Green church van and trailer were
stolen from in front of our pastor's home by Grace
Pauline Kelly. Grace is currently in police custody. A churchgoer
who outlined the vehicle and trailer were taken on October
twenty seventh. Stated on the fundraising page via a statement
from pastor Kent Hart, the church has set the donation
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goal to thirty thousand dollars, stating the van was declared
to write off after the incident. He's figuring, you know what,
we might as well use this occasion in all the
publicity we're getting. See if we can't get us a
nice new van for me to cut around in. I
want to know why the church van is at the
pastor's house. I'm wondering if the church van just also
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happens to be how the pastor goes to the grocery
store and buys groceries. The van was damaged during the theft,
and after being inspected by a body shop, the insurance
has determined it to be a total loss. The van
was only valued at thirty eight hundred dollars, and after
the body shop fees and deductible we are only left
with about twenty two hundred dollars. We are a small
church and cannot afford to buy another van in the
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current market, So if y'all could give us thirty thousand
dollars to replace our three thousand dollars van.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
How does that work? Ooh, I said the most hideous
who would look at that van and think I'd like
to steal that van?