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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. Michael
Very show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
So now we start into where Syria goes from here.
You have to see that the timing is not coincidental
our deep state. There are a lot of people who
are independent thinkers, who are very free thinkers, who have
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made the point that the reason Trump had to be
defeated in twenty twenty was because he was questioning to
see in the FBI. Let's go back to twenty seventeen.
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Julian Assange said that Donald Trump and the CIA were
having an internal war. Trump was arguing with the CIA,
and Assange said that the CIA wanted to topple Boscher
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all aside, the leader of the dictator of Syria, and
that they were spending that was their single largest budget item. Trump,
according to assannge behind the scenes, said You're not going
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to topple a leader of a nation when we don't
have someone or some interest, some entity ready to step
in that would be stable. We're not going to let
al Qaeda take over a nation. So what did they say?
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Trump is dangerous? Can't trust Trump? He'll get us into war?
When are we most likely to be in war? When
a dictator we don't like who has control of his
nation is on the throne, or when al Qaeda, this
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rogue group takes over a country, in which case do
you think we're better off. This is where Americans have,
the American public struggles because we have a belief that
if a dictator is running a country and the people
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in that country don't like the dictator, that our responsibility
is to kick the dictator out. Okay, seems to make sense,
But then what Let's go back to the Shah of
Iran late seventies, Scha Paul Avi, who had been installed
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by the Western world as the dictator of Iran. Now,
the radical fundamentalist Muslims, particularly the sort of organized Mullahs
who under the cloak of the cloth as Mulla's as
Muslim leaders, were basically building an army to take over
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the country and install their religious leader who is a vile,
war mongering, oppressive man. And that's exactly what happened. Remember
the American hostages the Ayatola Homine, he takes over basically
their pope. So this religious leader in all his zeal
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takes over because remember shap oliviy in Iran, he's not.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Popular he's a dictator.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
He was a dictator who was very friendly to the
Western world, and Iran was a much more stable country.
My wife's mother was scheduled to go.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
To Iran as a doctor.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Many Indians would go there and practice, and she grew
ill and died, but her friends went there. There were
people from the United States, from India, from other places
who would go to Iran, a country well respected in science, medicine, commerce, art, cuisine, tourism.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Can you imagine going to Iran?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Well, actually, Iran has some of the most beautiful tourist
locations in the world. But there was a dictator and
when the Mulahs, the fundamentalist Muslims, overthrew that dictator, stability
was gone and has never returned. Well, nobody wants to
say that we're in favor of the dictator, right, is
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Iran better or worse off for its own people?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Far worse for the rest of the world, far worse.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
We've effectively been at war with Iran since the fall
of Iran.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Oh, but we can't be for the dictator. Can we
look at Egypt?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Hasnimbark remember the Muslim brotherhood that overthrew him. Egypt was
a bulkhead for Western interests in Northeast Africa.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
And yes, they were friendly with Israel.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
But I realize a lot of our folks hate Israel
and a lot of our folks love Israel, and.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Some of them are irrational on both ends of the spectrum.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I'm talking about what's best for the people of these countries,
for the rest of the world, and for America's interests.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
The fall of my Bark.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Led to the rise of the Muslim brotherhood, and that's
where your Arab spring came. That's where your instability came in,
and that led to instability in the region.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Let's turn to Libya. Kadafi had been a bad guy, remember.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So when Kadafi was run out of his capital and
into the region where he had lived, much like Saddam
Husain would end up being. And they hunted him down
and we watched them kill him on live TV, and
thank god, because he was evil and we hated him.
And it's true, it was a bad dictator.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
And what happened that country was plunged into.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Chaos of fundamentalist Muslims, which would lead I'll remind you
to Benghazi. There was no government to protect our people.
That has happened again and again and again. It's always
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on the verge of happening in Saudi Arabia. But they
don't tell you that the Saudi royal family is hated
on the streets of Jedda and any other.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Saudi city. They don't tell you that in much.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
The same way that Asad was in much the same
way that in certain circles Saddam Hussein was and more
mar Kadafi. But they toy with the American people and
they tell you we got to get rid of that dictator.
What they don't tell you is that that is going
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that dictator is going to be replaced. And by the way,
now these terrorists, these al Qaeda, these these elements, they're
going to have control of a military, a police, a currency.
And guess which side of the United States is on. Oh,
but don't say anything about it or then your pro.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Cast listening to Michael Barry's show.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
So here we are around Syria has fallen into absolute
and utter chaos. Now to be clear, if Asad is
not put back in charge, al Qaeda and rogue elements
are going to take over control of that country.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Let's go back to Cuba.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
The United States sat idly by because Baptista was not
to our absolute liking. So we allowed an upstart guerrilla warfare.
Very smart, mind you, Fidel Castro with fifty men to
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take Havana and impose the most brutal rule on those people.
We sat idly by and allowed that. In fact, we
arguably helped it. But no one had wanted to defend Baptista.
What are you a Baptista sympathizer? He was a bad guy.
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We destabilized that country and we led to the Castro regime.
Ask a Cuban how good they had it before and
after Baptista. You might not like Baptista. So here is
Joe Biden now pledging aid for Syria. By the way,
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why do we need to pledge aid for Syria. We
didn't have to pledge aid for Syria when Aside was
still in charge.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
For the new constitution, new governess serves all Sirians and
this process to be determined by the Syrian people themselves.
In the United States will do whatever we can to
support them, including through humanitarian relief, to help restore Syria
after more than a decade of war and generation of
brutality by this sod family.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Now John Bolton, who is part of the regime, the
war lobby that loves war and wants to continue war,
was on CNN and.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
They have now taken to calling Toolsey Gabbard.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
A pawn of Putin and Asade, the nastiest insult you
can give. And because remember she was put on a
terror watch list and Trump said, I'm putting her in
charge of all that because I'm going to tell you something.
The CIA and the FBI, they're out of control. Nobody's
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been able to stop them. There's going to be, whether
it's a hot or not, civil war in this country
because the FBI and the CIA are going to have
to be dismantled. So here's John Bolton doing his bidding
for the Bush folks, for the McCain folks, for the
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Cheney folks, and they are in concert with the Democrats
on this, Make no mistake about that.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Yeah, I think she's totally unqualified to be a DNI,
and I think her positions put her beyond the outermost
fringe of American politics. When she visited Aside in Syria,
he was effectively a Russian Iranian ally, and what she
said about the Assyria not being a direct threat to
the United States. That was her justification for going. It's
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completely false. The Syrians and their combination with Iran and
Hezbela have posed a threats to Americans across the region.
They certainly pose a direct threat to key American allies
Israel and Jordan. And it's got to be very interesting
to see what the files that may be uncovered in
the Syrian government if the rebels succeed in capturing Damascus,
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what they show about a number of Americans.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Well, suggesting that Tulsa Gabbert is controlled by Russia and
Syria to undercut her because she does not want to
involve US in this war. Do you realize how many
countries our government has destabilized on the basis that that
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dictator is bad and they are so they topple that dictator,
and then a civil war breaks out and they send
our troops in.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
That's what happened in Russia.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Olin Powell's doctrine was supposed to be you break it,
you fix it. How an entire generation of young men
in this country were sent to Iraq for what They
were sent to Afghanistan for what?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
What was accomplished.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Are the people of Iraq better or worse because of it.
Is it possible that other countries are not set up
the way we are, and that we don't have to
topple every bad person and leave in their wake a
power vacuum that ends up becoming far more dangerous for
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their people and for us and for the rest of
the world.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Those are the questions that have to be answered.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Now.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I want you to listen very carefully. This is most important.
Audio will play today.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
It's a professor at Columbia University named Jeffrey Sachs, and
he is explaining how Obama ended up creating ISIS when
he deployed the CIA to take out a SOD. Obama's
attempt to take out a SOD in Syria led to
the creation of ISIS, which became ISIS was because of Obama.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
When you topple a bad guy.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
And have no way to fix what you've just broken,
you create a vacuum. And what's ending up happening is
people far worse than that dictator or taking power.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Listen to this. This is important.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
How out of control this could escalate.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
It's true, but I think we have to step back
and not put this in partisan terms. This is a
US mistake that started seven years ago. And I remember
the day on your show when President Obama said Asad
must go, and I looked at you and Joe and
I said, huh.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Going to do that? Where's the policy for that?
Speaker 7 (15:03):
And we know they sent in the CIA to overthrow Asad.
The CIA and Saudi Arabia together in covert operations, tried
to overthrow a sod. It was a disaster. Eventually it
brought in both Isis as a splinter group to the
Jihadis that went in. It also brought in Russia. So
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we have been digging deeper and deeper and deeper. What
we should do now is get out and not continue
to throw missiles, not have a confrontation with Russia. Seven
years has been a disaster under Obama, continuing under Trump.
This is what I would call the permanent state. This
is the CIA, this is a Pentagon wanting to keep
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Iran in Russia out of Syria, but no way to
do that, and so we have made a proxy war
in Syria. It's killed five hundred thousand people, displaced ten million.
And I'll say predictably so because I did. It's seven
years ago that there was no way to do this
and that it would make a complete cast. So what
I would plead to President Trump is get out, like
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his instinct told him. By the way, that was his instinct.
But then all the establishment, the New York Times, the
Washington Post, the Pentagon, everybody said no, no, that's irresponsible.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
But his instinct is right, get out.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
We've done enough damage seven years, and now we really
risk a confrontation with Russia that is extraordinarily dangerous, reckless.
Speaker 8 (16:33):
The words of George Ben aren't shore and the words
that were taken by Robert F.
Speaker 9 (16:37):
Gain.
Speaker 10 (16:37):
These children speak Chinese and Spanish.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Michael Shoe.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
What are the names.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
That has emerged after the election within the Democrat Party
is who is someone who is really laying bare what
happened with the Democrats is an Asian American woman named
Lindy Lee, and she went on News Nation and she's
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basically talking about the fact that the Kamala Harris campaign
raised over a billion dollars. Kamala Harris didn't do it.
These are people that were willing to contribute because they
wanted to defeat Trump and how the money was squandered. Now,
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the people around Kamala Harris who came in with her
some of them are the types of people that acted
like they had won the lottery. The money that.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Was raised, you know, she out raised.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
It wasn't her, but their campaign trump by multiples. But
the money was ghetto fabulous. I mean it was just
blown on things. One hundred thousand dollars for a podcast set,
I mean just absurdities, right, paying celebrities who sold out
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their endorsement to her. How grotesque. Oprah Winfrey, Well, she's
basically saying that Kamala Harris did more than lose the campaign.
She told donors don't ever give again. Why would you
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ever give to these people? They're stealing the money from
the campaign.
Speaker 11 (18:42):
I do want to say that a billion dollars one
hundred days is not just run of the mill. This
is astounding and I have a duty of care to
my donors who gave millions of dollars, and it wasn't
easy for them to give. Some of them were paying
in installments. It was a sacrifice for them. They looked
for way to give. So, you know, people gave their
hearts and souls to the campaign. They deserve a serious
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accounting to see why we were told that she was
close or even winning in some of the swing states,
but we lost all seven.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Well, what didn't they say?
Speaker 12 (19:13):
We heard on the podcast, But what did they say
on this call?
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Did they accept any blame?
Speaker 11 (19:18):
Did they sort of talk about no, no, no, none,
no responsibility, no accounting, no post mortem, no explanation. All
they said was that she was a visionary leader, that
the Biden Harris administration was a tremendous success. We didn't
hear any sort of explanation for what exactly happened. This
was not a squeaker of a race. This was not
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a close race. This is a serious she lacking and
we need to understand why the difference, the delta between
the expectations and the reality was so significant. How are
you ever going to expect anyone to ever donate or
to believe in the Democratic Party.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Again, so she manages alligator tears for these Democrats who
donated to the campaign. Some of them did it on
installment plans, So hard earned money and for it to
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be wasted. Now you sound like a Republican. Forget Democrat donors.
At least they chose to give their money to a
stupid cost. Think of the poor taxpayers in this country
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whose money is taken before they ever see it. Their
income taxes, social Security that will not be there for
them whenever they're done, sales taxes, property taxes, state income
taxes in most states, that money is taken from them
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before they ever see it.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Money that they earned.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
And then squandered, sent to Ukraine, now sent to Syria,
spent on all these Democrat projects. Why don't you learn
to defend those people who, just by virtue of living
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in America, their money is stolen from them by these
same Democrats who squander it in this same way. You're
mad that the Democrats squandered the campaign money because they
didn't win the election. I'm mad that Democrats squander government
money because it's not their money and we didn't choose
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to give it to you.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Now you want to know what's wrong with the Democrat Party.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
I'm going to give it to you.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
In a twenty four second clip.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
This is Harris campaign manager Quentin Fulkes, and the question
is asked here, if Biden wasn't going to be the candidate,
why not have an open Democrat primary? Why not let
the voters, the Democrat voters, choose who their candidate was
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going to be.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
And he's going to say to you with a straight face.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
If the voters got to decide who the candidate was
going to be, that would have upset black women. Wait what,
black women don't want everybody in the party to have
a say. They just want someone who claims to be
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a black woman. This right here, friends, is everything wrong
with the Democrat mindset in America today. Well, we can't
let the voters decide who the nominee for president will
be because that'll upset that group over there who wants
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someone who they can claim is their own. This is
the most small minded, parochial, cancerous mindset that you can
possibly imagine.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Listen to this.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
We had one hundred and seven days, and I know
people don't like that time frame, that number, but to
open up a Democratic primary, you would have had black women,
who were the strongest voting block for Kamala Harris be
highly upset. If it was not Kamala Harris, you would
have had someone starting.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
With zero infrastructure.
Speaker 8 (24:00):
I hear your concern, and I'm not saying that primaries
are not important and open primaries are important.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I want you to listen to this again. The Democrats
have just said black women run the Democrat Party. You
think that's not true. I will remind you that Biden
made a commitment if he's a nominee. I don't know
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who my vice presidential running mate will be, but I
will limit it to the very small percentage of people.
It will have to be a black woman. Kamala Harris
wasn't even number one. She wasn't even number two. His
first choice. Once it leaked, they pulled back on because
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she had spent her entire career praising Fidel Castro and
what a great job Castro have done in Juba.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
The second choice was even worse.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Can you imagine saying this party is just going to
be run by black women, because that's what they just.
Speaker 7 (25:17):
Did the Michael Berry Show, The Place of where Wolpe
goes to die.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
One of the things that tends to cross people up
on our side of the aisle, particularly Christians, devout Christians,
is when the left will say, well, if you do this,
that's not very Christian. Now, the people who say that
are not actually Christians, and they do not believe in
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your Bible, they have not made a personal commitment, they
don't identify as Christians, never.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Would say they do.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
In fact, they would level your churches if they had
the chance, just as the Communists always do. Because your
church competes with their church, which is government. They hate
everything about your faith, what it stands for, because it
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gives them a sense of conviction. They feel convicted, they
feel ashamed. However, doesn't make them dumb. So what do
they do? They turn around and say, well, preventing this
from happening is not very Christian. If you don't allow
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us to grow the government as big as we want
through welfare handouts and kickbacks, you're not very Christian.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Christ would be for big government. Christ would be for
welfare programs.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
And our people get so upset because they try so hard,
they try so hard to live by their faith.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Well you see this in this way. Here's another example.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
So Byron Donald's, Republican congressman from Florida, was on ABC
this week with Martha Raddit's and she says, but if
you engage in these mass deportations, who's going to pay
for it? Because you said you were against spending a
bunch of government money. Now, Martha Ratus doesn't care if
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we send our entire budget to Ukraine, but you dare
try to spend a few billion dollars on a border.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Wall Ah, can't spend money. You said not to spend money.
These people are shameless.
Speaker 10 (27:54):
A reason analysis found it would cost about three hundred
and fifteen billion dollars in take at least ten years
to deport everyone in the US without legal status. You
often talk about the need to cut government spending, So
how is this mass deportation going to be paid for?
Speaker 9 (28:12):
Well, Martha, I will tell you what we already know
is is that the cost of massive illegal immigration to
the federal government, to state governments, and to local governments
is more than one hundred and fifty billion dollars per year.
So if you're going to say that it costs US
three hundred billion over a decade to repatriate illegal aliens
to their home country, versus the American taxpayer having to
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pay more than a trillion dollars over the same decade
to keep those illegal aliens in the United States, that
is a savings to the American people. And so it
is important that, yes, we are going to have to
use resources to repatriate these people back to their countries
where they belong, but it pales in comparison to the
costs of massive illegal immigration. In the United States, not
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just with trying to subsidize people living here, but it's
also the crime that has occurred. You could bring up
Rachel Nungari with the tragedy happened to her, Lincoln Riley,
the tragedy that has happened to her, not to mention
the displacement of the American people in their own cities
when it comes to resources by rampant illegal immigration. As
far as I'm concerned, this is a savings for the
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American people.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
The left would love you to believe that this country
would crumble without a legal immigration. The left would love
for you to believe that you won't be able to
afford anything.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Without a legal immigration. You rely on it.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
But they do not want you to count in the
ledger the profit and loss, the health care costs you
pay for I legal immigrants, the school costs you pay,
the criminal justice costs you pay. What about the jobs
that are lost that you absorb. What about young Americans
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who can't find a job because those jobs are given
to illegals. Have you been to an emergency room lately
in Houston. You can't get a bed, you can't be
seen because the whole thing, the whole emergency room is
full of illegal aliens. Some are there for a common cold,
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so I'm there for a little more. But they don't
buy insurance, so they just go to the emergency room.
And so the emergency room is overwhelmed and you go
in with an emergency and there's nobody to see.
Speaker 12 (30:41):
You.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Used to you could at least move out to a
rural community and you wouldn't have to deal with that.
But the Democrats said, uh uh, we're gonna dump twenty
thousand Haitians on a town of ten thousand here. We're
gonna dump some here, We're gonna dump some there. You're
not going to hide from the America. They want you
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to suffer through. Donald Trump made the statement that he's
going to end birthright citizenship and that legally he can
do so.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
You promised to and birthright citizenship on day one. Is
that still your plan?
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Yeah? Absolutely.
Speaker 7 (31:23):
The fourteenth Amendment though, says that quote all persons born
in the United States are citizens.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Can you get around the fourteenth Amendment within.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
This change would maybe have to go back to the people,
But we have to end it with the only country
that has it.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
You're an executive action, You're we're the.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Only country that has it. You know, if somebody sets
a foot, just a foot, one foot, you don't need
to on our land. Congratulations, you are now a citizen
of the United States of America. Yes, we're going to
end that because it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Nor executive action.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Well, if we can through executive action. I was going
to do it through executive action, but then we had
to fix COVID first.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
To be honest with you, we have to end it.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Now.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
There was a time not so long ago when the
Democrats said the same exact thing.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Senator Harry Reid said this, If making.
Speaker 12 (32:13):
It easy to be an illegal alien isn't enough, how
about offering a reward for being an illegal alienor no
same country would do that, right, Guess again, if you
break our laws by entering this country without permission and
give birth to a child, we reward that child with
US citizenship and guarantee of full access to all public
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and social services this society provides.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Now that's a lot of services.
Speaker 12 (32:42):
Is it any wonder that two thirds of the babies
born at Paxpur, expensive Country County run hospitals in Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Are born to illegal alien.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Mothers that used to be with the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
At the time that Harry Reid said that in the nineties,
Barbara Jordan, a prominent black voice of liberalism, gave the
keynote address for Bill Clinton at the ninety two convention,
just as she had done for Jimmy Carter at the
seventy six convention. She would go on in ninety six
to repeat those words that a nation without enforced borders.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Is not a nation.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
And you may say, well, Michael, the fourteenth Amendment, though,
let me read you the fourteenth Amendment. All persons born
or naturalized in the United States and subject to the
jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States. These individuals
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are not legal when they arrive and do not automatically
manifest legal rights simply by giving birth. Do you know
that diplomats in this country, when serving this country, if
they're here as an ambassador to a foreign nation, from
a foreign nation, their child does not immediately become a citizen,
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and neither should an illegal age.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
He sil els has lot fortunity. Thank you, and good night.
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. Michael
Very show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
So now we start into where Syria goes from here.
You have to see that the timing is not coincidental
our deep state. There are a lot of people who
are independent thinkers, who are very free thinkers, who have
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made the point that the reason Trump had to be
defeated in twenty twenty was because he was questioning to
see in the FBI. Let's go back to twenty seventeen.
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Julian Assange said that Donald Trump and the CIA were
having an internal war. Trump was arguing with the CIA,
and Assange said that the CIA wanted to topple Boscher
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all aside, the leader of the dictator of Syria, and
that they were spending that was their single largest budget item. Trump,
according to assannge behind the scenes, said You're not going
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to topple a leader of a nation when we don't
have someone or some interest, some entity ready to step
in that would be stable. We're not going to let
al Qaeda take over a nation. So what did they say?
(02:13):
Trump is dangerous? Can't trust Trump? He'll get us into war?
When are we most likely to be in war? When
a dictator we don't like who has control of his
nation is on the throne, or when al Qaeda, this
(02:36):
rogue group takes over a country, in which case do
you think we're better off. This is where Americans have,
the American public struggles because we have a belief that
if a dictator is running a country and the people
(03:01):
in that country don't like the dictator, that our responsibility
is to kick the dictator out. Okay, seems to make sense,
But then what Let's go back to the Shah of
Iran late seventies, Scha Paul Avi, who had been installed
(03:23):
by the Western world as the dictator of Iran. Now,
the radical fundamentalist Muslims, particularly the sort of organized Mullahs
who under the cloak of the cloth as Mulla's as
Muslim leaders, were basically building an army to take over
(03:46):
the country and install their religious leader who is a vile,
war mongering, oppressive man. And that's exactly what happened. Remember
the American hostages the Ayatola Homine, he takes over basically
their pope. So this religious leader in all his zeal
(04:10):
takes over because remember shap oliviy in Iran, he's not.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Popular he's a dictator.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
He was a dictator who was very friendly to the
Western world, and Iran was a much more stable country.
My wife's mother was scheduled to go.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
To Iran as a doctor.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Many Indians would go there and practice, and she grew
ill and died, but her friends went there. There were
people from the United States, from India, from other places
who would go to Iran, a country well respected in science, medicine, commerce, art, cuisine, tourism.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Can you imagine going to Iran?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Well, actually, Iran has some of the most beautiful tourist
locations in the world. But there was a dictator and
when the Mulahs, the fundamentalist Muslims, overthrew that dictator, stability
was gone and has never returned. Well, nobody wants to
say that we're in favor of the dictator, right, is
(05:16):
Iran better or worse off for its own people?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Far worse for the rest of the world, far worse.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
We've effectively been at war with Iran since the fall
of Iran.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Oh, but we can't be for the dictator. Can we
look at Egypt?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Hasnimbark remember the Muslim brotherhood that overthrew him. Egypt was
a bulkhead for Western interests in Northeast Africa.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
And yes, they were friendly with Israel.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
But I realize a lot of our folks hate Israel
and a lot of our folks love Israel, and.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Some of them are irrational on both ends of the spectrum.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I'm talking about what's best for the people of these countries,
for the rest of the world, and for America's interests.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
The fall of my Bark.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Led to the rise of the Muslim brotherhood, and that's
where your Arab spring came. That's where your instability came in,
and that led to instability in the region.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Let's turn to Libya. Kadafi had been a bad guy, remember.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So when Kadafi was run out of his capital and
into the region where he had lived, much like Saddam
Husain would end up being. And they hunted him down
and we watched them kill him on live TV, and
thank god, because he was evil and we hated him.
And it's true, it was a bad dictator.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
And what happened that country was plunged into.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Chaos of fundamentalist Muslims, which would lead I'll remind you
to Benghazi. There was no government to protect our people.
That has happened again and again and again. It's always
(07:17):
on the verge of happening in Saudi Arabia. But they
don't tell you that the Saudi royal family is hated
on the streets of Jedda and any other.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Saudi city. They don't tell you that in much.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
The same way that Asad was in much the same
way that in certain circles Saddam Hussein was and more
mar Kadafi. But they toy with the American people and
they tell you we got to get rid of that dictator.
What they don't tell you is that that is going
(08:01):
that dictator is going to be replaced. And by the way,
now these terrorists, these al Qaeda, these these elements, they're
going to have control of a military, a police, a currency.
And guess which side of the United States is on. Oh,
but don't say anything about it or then your pro.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Cast listening to Michael Barry's show.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
So here we are around Syria has fallen into absolute
and utter chaos. Now to be clear, if Asad is
not put back in charge, al Qaeda and rogue elements
are going to take over control of that country.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Let's go back to Cuba.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
The United States sat idly by because Baptista was not
to our absolute liking. So we allowed an upstart guerrilla warfare.
Very smart, mind you, Fidel Castro with fifty men to
(09:14):
take Havana and impose the most brutal rule on those people.
We sat idly by and allowed that. In fact, we
arguably helped it. But no one had wanted to defend Baptista.
What are you a Baptista sympathizer? He was a bad guy.
(09:35):
We destabilized that country and we led to the Castro regime.
Ask a Cuban how good they had it before and
after Baptista. You might not like Baptista. So here is
Joe Biden now pledging aid for Syria. By the way,
(09:57):
why do we need to pledge aid for Syria. We
didn't have to pledge aid for Syria when Aside was
still in charge.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
For the new constitution, new governess serves all Sirians and
this process to be determined by the Syrian people themselves.
In the United States will do whatever we can to
support them, including through humanitarian relief, to help restore Syria
after more than a decade of war and generation of
brutality by this sod family.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Now John Bolton, who is part of the regime, the
war lobby that loves war and wants to continue war,
was on CNN and.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
They have now taken to calling Toolsey Gabbard.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
A pawn of Putin and Asade, the nastiest insult you
can give. And because remember she was put on a
terror watch list and Trump said, I'm putting her in
charge of all that because I'm going to tell you something.
The CIA and the FBI, they're out of control. Nobody's
(11:06):
been able to stop them. There's going to be, whether
it's a hot or not, civil war in this country
because the FBI and the CIA are going to have
to be dismantled. So here's John Bolton doing his bidding
for the Bush folks, for the McCain folks, for the
(11:27):
Cheney folks, and they are in concert with the Democrats
on this, Make no mistake about that.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Yeah, I think she's totally unqualified to be a DNI,
and I think her positions put her beyond the outermost
fringe of American politics. When she visited Aside in Syria,
he was effectively a Russian Iranian ally, and what she
said about the Assyria not being a direct threat to
the United States. That was her justification for going. It's
(11:54):
completely false. The Syrians and their combination with Iran and
Hezbela have posed a threats to Americans across the region.
They certainly pose a direct threat to key American allies
Israel and Jordan. And it's got to be very interesting
to see what the files that may be uncovered in
the Syrian government if the rebels succeed in capturing Damascus,
(12:16):
what they show about a number of Americans.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Well, suggesting that Tulsa Gabbert is controlled by Russia and
Syria to undercut her because she does not want to
involve US in this war. Do you realize how many
countries our government has destabilized on the basis that that
(12:42):
dictator is bad and they are so they topple that dictator,
and then a civil war breaks out and they send
our troops in.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
That's what happened in Russia.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Olin Powell's doctrine was supposed to be you break it,
you fix it. How an entire generation of young men
in this country were sent to Iraq for what They
were sent to Afghanistan for what?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
What was accomplished.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Are the people of Iraq better or worse because of it.
Is it possible that other countries are not set up
the way we are, and that we don't have to
topple every bad person and leave in their wake a
power vacuum that ends up becoming far more dangerous for
(13:40):
their people and for us and for the rest of
the world.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Those are the questions that have to be answered.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Now.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I want you to listen very carefully. This is most important.
Audio will play today.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
It's a professor at Columbia University named Jeffrey Sachs, and
he is explaining how Obama ended up creating ISIS when
he deployed the CIA to take out a SOD. Obama's
attempt to take out a SOD in Syria led to
the creation of ISIS, which became ISIS was because of Obama.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
When you topple a bad guy.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
And have no way to fix what you've just broken,
you create a vacuum. And what's ending up happening is
people far worse than that dictator or taking power.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Listen to this. This is important.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
How out of control this could escalate.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
It's true, but I think we have to step back
and not put this in partisan terms. This is a
US mistake that started seven years ago. And I remember
the day on your show when President Obama said Asad
must go, and I looked at you and Joe and
I said, huh.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Going to do that? Where's the policy for that?
Speaker 7 (15:03):
And we know they sent in the CIA to overthrow Asad.
The CIA and Saudi Arabia together in covert operations, tried
to overthrow a sod. It was a disaster. Eventually it
brought in both Isis as a splinter group to the
Jihadis that went in. It also brought in Russia. So
(15:24):
we have been digging deeper and deeper and deeper. What
we should do now is get out and not continue
to throw missiles, not have a confrontation with Russia. Seven
years has been a disaster under Obama, continuing under Trump.
This is what I would call the permanent state. This
is the CIA, this is a Pentagon wanting to keep
(15:47):
Iran in Russia out of Syria, but no way to
do that, and so we have made a proxy war
in Syria. It's killed five hundred thousand people, displaced ten million.
And I'll say predictably so because I did. It's seven
years ago that there was no way to do this
and that it would make a complete cast. So what
I would plead to President Trump is get out, like
(16:10):
his instinct told him. By the way, that was his instinct.
But then all the establishment, the New York Times, the
Washington Post, the Pentagon, everybody said no, no, that's irresponsible.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
But his instinct is right, get out.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
We've done enough damage seven years, and now we really
risk a confrontation with Russia that is extraordinarily dangerous, reckless.
Speaker 8 (16:33):
The words of George Ben aren't shore and the words
that were taken by Robert F.
Speaker 9 (16:37):
Gain.
Speaker 10 (16:37):
These children speak Chinese and Spanish.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Michael Shoe.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
What are the names.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
That has emerged after the election within the Democrat Party
is who is someone who is really laying bare what
happened with the Democrats is an Asian American woman named
Lindy Lee, and she went on News Nation and she's
(17:06):
basically talking about the fact that the Kamala Harris campaign
raised over a billion dollars. Kamala Harris didn't do it.
These are people that were willing to contribute because they
wanted to defeat Trump and how the money was squandered. Now,
(17:31):
the people around Kamala Harris who came in with her
some of them are the types of people that acted
like they had won the lottery. The money that.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Was raised, you know, she out raised.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
It wasn't her, but their campaign trump by multiples. But
the money was ghetto fabulous. I mean it was just
blown on things. One hundred thousand dollars for a podcast set,
I mean just absurdities, right, paying celebrities who sold out
(18:14):
their endorsement to her. How grotesque. Oprah Winfrey, Well, she's
basically saying that Kamala Harris did more than lose the campaign.
She told donors don't ever give again. Why would you
(18:36):
ever give to these people? They're stealing the money from
the campaign.
Speaker 11 (18:42):
I do want to say that a billion dollars one
hundred days is not just run of the mill. This
is astounding and I have a duty of care to
my donors who gave millions of dollars, and it wasn't
easy for them to give. Some of them were paying
in installments. It was a sacrifice for them. They looked
for way to give. So, you know, people gave their
hearts and souls to the campaign. They deserve a serious
(19:05):
accounting to see why we were told that she was
close or even winning in some of the swing states,
but we lost all seven.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Well, what didn't they say?
Speaker 12 (19:13):
We heard on the podcast, But what did they say
on this call?
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Did they accept any blame?
Speaker 11 (19:18):
Did they sort of talk about no, no, no, none,
no responsibility, no accounting, no post mortem, no explanation. All
they said was that she was a visionary leader, that
the Biden Harris administration was a tremendous success. We didn't
hear any sort of explanation for what exactly happened. This
was not a squeaker of a race. This was not
(19:38):
a close race. This is a serious she lacking and
we need to understand why the difference, the delta between
the expectations and the reality was so significant. How are
you ever going to expect anyone to ever donate or
to believe in the Democratic Party.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Again, so she manages alligator tears for these Democrats who
donated to the campaign. Some of them did it on
installment plans, So hard earned money and for it to
(20:19):
be wasted. Now you sound like a Republican. Forget Democrat donors.
At least they chose to give their money to a
stupid cost. Think of the poor taxpayers in this country
(20:43):
whose money is taken before they ever see it. Their
income taxes, social Security that will not be there for
them whenever they're done, sales taxes, property taxes, state income
taxes in most states, that money is taken from them
(21:04):
before they ever see it.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Money that they earned.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
And then squandered, sent to Ukraine, now sent to Syria,
spent on all these Democrat projects. Why don't you learn
to defend those people who, just by virtue of living
(21:29):
in America, their money is stolen from them by these
same Democrats who squander it in this same way. You're
mad that the Democrats squandered the campaign money because they
didn't win the election. I'm mad that Democrats squander government
money because it's not their money and we didn't choose
(21:53):
to give it to you.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Now you want to know what's wrong with the Democrat Party.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
I'm going to give it to you.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
In a twenty four second clip.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
This is Harris campaign manager Quentin Fulkes, and the question
is asked here, if Biden wasn't going to be the candidate,
why not have an open Democrat primary? Why not let
the voters, the Democrat voters, choose who their candidate was
(22:26):
going to be.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
And he's going to say to you with a straight face.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
If the voters got to decide who the candidate was
going to be, that would have upset black women. Wait what,
black women don't want everybody in the party to have
a say. They just want someone who claims to be
(23:00):
a black woman. This right here, friends, is everything wrong
with the Democrat mindset in America today. Well, we can't
let the voters decide who the nominee for president will
be because that'll upset that group over there who wants
(23:21):
someone who they can claim is their own. This is
the most small minded, parochial, cancerous mindset that you can
possibly imagine.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Listen to this.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
We had one hundred and seven days, and I know
people don't like that time frame, that number, but to
open up a Democratic primary, you would have had black women,
who were the strongest voting block for Kamala Harris be
highly upset. If it was not Kamala Harris, you would
have had someone starting.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
With zero infrastructure.
Speaker 8 (24:00):
I hear your concern, and I'm not saying that primaries
are not important and open primaries are important.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I want you to listen to this again. The Democrats
have just said black women run the Democrat Party. You
think that's not true. I will remind you that Biden
made a commitment if he's a nominee. I don't know
(24:34):
who my vice presidential running mate will be, but I
will limit it to the very small percentage of people.
It will have to be a black woman. Kamala Harris
wasn't even number one. She wasn't even number two. His
first choice. Once it leaked, they pulled back on because
(24:57):
she had spent her entire career praising Fidel Castro and
what a great job Castro have done in Juba.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
The second choice was even worse.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Can you imagine saying this party is just going to
be run by black women, because that's what they just.
Speaker 7 (25:17):
Did the Michael Berry Show, The Place of where Wolpe
goes to die.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
One of the things that tends to cross people up
on our side of the aisle, particularly Christians, devout Christians,
is when the left will say, well, if you do this,
that's not very Christian. Now, the people who say that
are not actually Christians, and they do not believe in
(25:48):
your Bible, they have not made a personal commitment, they
don't identify as Christians, never.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Would say they do.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
In fact, they would level your churches if they had
the chance, just as the Communists always do. Because your
church competes with their church, which is government. They hate
everything about your faith, what it stands for, because it
(26:23):
gives them a sense of conviction. They feel convicted, they
feel ashamed. However, doesn't make them dumb. So what do
they do? They turn around and say, well, preventing this
from happening is not very Christian. If you don't allow
(26:46):
us to grow the government as big as we want
through welfare handouts and kickbacks, you're not very Christian.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Christ would be for big government. Christ would be for
welfare programs.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
And our people get so upset because they try so hard,
they try so hard to live by their faith.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Well you see this in this way. Here's another example.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
So Byron Donald's, Republican congressman from Florida, was on ABC
this week with Martha Raddit's and she says, but if
you engage in these mass deportations, who's going to pay
for it? Because you said you were against spending a
bunch of government money. Now, Martha Ratus doesn't care if
(27:38):
we send our entire budget to Ukraine, but you dare
try to spend a few billion dollars on a border.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Wall Ah, can't spend money. You said not to spend money.
These people are shameless.
Speaker 10 (27:54):
A reason analysis found it would cost about three hundred
and fifteen billion dollars in take at least ten years
to deport everyone in the US without legal status. You
often talk about the need to cut government spending, So
how is this mass deportation going to be paid for?
Speaker 9 (28:12):
Well, Martha, I will tell you what we already know
is is that the cost of massive illegal immigration to
the federal government, to state governments, and to local governments
is more than one hundred and fifty billion dollars per year.
So if you're going to say that it costs US
three hundred billion over a decade to repatriate illegal aliens
to their home country, versus the American taxpayer having to
(28:35):
pay more than a trillion dollars over the same decade
to keep those illegal aliens in the United States, that
is a savings to the American people. And so it
is important that, yes, we are going to have to
use resources to repatriate these people back to their countries
where they belong, but it pales in comparison to the
costs of massive illegal immigration. In the United States, not
(28:57):
just with trying to subsidize people living here, but it's
also the crime that has occurred. You could bring up
Rachel Nungari with the tragedy happened to her, Lincoln Riley,
the tragedy that has happened to her, not to mention
the displacement of the American people in their own cities
when it comes to resources by rampant illegal immigration. As
far as I'm concerned, this is a savings for the
(29:20):
American people.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
The left would love you to believe that this country
would crumble without a legal immigration. The left would love
for you to believe that you won't be able to
afford anything.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Without a legal immigration. You rely on it.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
But they do not want you to count in the
ledger the profit and loss, the health care costs you
pay for I legal immigrants, the school costs you pay,
the criminal justice costs you pay. What about the jobs
that are lost that you absorb. What about young Americans
(30:01):
who can't find a job because those jobs are given
to illegals. Have you been to an emergency room lately
in Houston. You can't get a bed, you can't be
seen because the whole thing, the whole emergency room is
full of illegal aliens. Some are there for a common cold,
(30:25):
so I'm there for a little more. But they don't
buy insurance, so they just go to the emergency room.
And so the emergency room is overwhelmed and you go
in with an emergency and there's nobody to see.
Speaker 12 (30:41):
You.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Used to you could at least move out to a
rural community and you wouldn't have to deal with that.
But the Democrats said, uh uh, we're gonna dump twenty
thousand Haitians on a town of ten thousand here. We're
gonna dump some here, We're gonna dump some there. You're
not going to hide from the America. They want you
(31:04):
to suffer through. Donald Trump made the statement that he's
going to end birthright citizenship and that legally he can
do so.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
You promised to and birthright citizenship on day one. Is
that still your plan?
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Yeah? Absolutely.
Speaker 7 (31:23):
The fourteenth Amendment though, says that quote all persons born
in the United States are citizens.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Can you get around the fourteenth Amendment within.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
This change would maybe have to go back to the people,
But we have to end it with the only country
that has it.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
You're an executive action, You're we're the.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Only country that has it. You know, if somebody sets
a foot, just a foot, one foot, you don't need
to on our land. Congratulations, you are now a citizen
of the United States of America. Yes, we're going to
end that because it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Nor executive action.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Well, if we can through executive action. I was going
to do it through executive action, but then we had
to fix COVID first.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
To be honest with you, we have to end it.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Now.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
There was a time not so long ago when the
Democrats said the same exact thing.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Senator Harry Reid said this, If making.
Speaker 12 (32:13):
It easy to be an illegal alien isn't enough, how
about offering a reward for being an illegal alienor no
same country would do that, right, Guess again, if you
break our laws by entering this country without permission and
give birth to a child, we reward that child with
US citizenship and guarantee of full access to all public
(32:37):
and social services this society provides.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Now that's a lot of services.
Speaker 12 (32:42):
Is it any wonder that two thirds of the babies
born at Paxpur, expensive Country County run hospitals in Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Are born to illegal alien.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Mothers that used to be with the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
At the time that Harry Reid said that in the nineties,
Barbara Jordan, a prominent black voice of liberalism, gave the
keynote address for Bill Clinton at the ninety two convention,
just as she had done for Jimmy Carter at the
seventy six convention. She would go on in ninety six
to repeat those words that a nation without enforced borders.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Is not a nation.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
And you may say, well, Michael, the fourteenth Amendment, though,
let me read you the fourteenth Amendment. All persons born
or naturalized in the United States and subject to the
jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States. These individuals
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are not legal when they arrive and do not automatically
manifest legal rights simply by giving birth. Do you know
that diplomats in this country, when serving this country, if
they're here as an ambassador to a foreign nation, from
a foreign nation, their child does not immediately become a citizen,
(34:05):
and neither should an illegal age.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
He sil els has lot fortunity. Thank you, and good night.
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