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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. Michael
Very Show is.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
On the air.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Daniel Penny has been found not guilty of criminally negligent homicide.
The jury deliberated for more than twenty four hours across
five days before reaching this verdict.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Every read to gathering perfect tal sign by side on
my john key, Look, why don't we It's like everybody
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else has vigilities. We need some black vigilities.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Want to jump up and choke us and kill us
for being loud? How about we do the same when
they attempt to oppress us. Right, I'm tiring TI America
hates black people and we see it from that jury
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and sign my sign? Oh my god?
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Why what?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Then hour twenty minutes later they said not guilty. These
wonderful white people, I hope they celebrate their Christmas while
the Nearly family is praying and asking God for comfort.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Then in America.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
Never mind that Daniel Penny has not, at least as
of now, volunteered to be the rights next George Zimmerman
or Kyle Rittenhouse to vigilante heroes of the right who
are beloved and famous among Republicans solely for killing people
who they believe need killing and getting acquitted.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
For it at trial.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
Armed conservative must be heavily armed and empowered to kill
at will with your handgun, your AR fifteen, or even
with your bare hands, anyone who makes you feel threatened
or uncomfortable anywhere, anytime, at your front door and your driveway,
driving by a Black Lives Matter rally, or on the terrifying,
scary black man Field New York subway. And the people
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who tend to need killing just happen to be black
or brown, or suffering from mental health crises or white
but just a little too cozy with BLM, and killing
them is not just your right Republican citizen.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Doing it makes you a hero.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Then told some of you yesterday asked why we did
not discuss the Daniel Penny verdict yesterday, And I noticed,
based on where you emailed in Tulsa, Philadelphia, Sacramento, that
your new markets are new listeners to the show. So
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let me explain something so that you understand every show
is different. There is a method to our madness here
on the show, and it is a position I have
taken that I stand by, and that is we do
not comment on news as it's happening for a reason,
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because you are relying on breaking news from what are
called in the business primary news sources that are extremely,
extremely biased. The New York Times this morning headline said
man who choked rider on subway has been freed, something
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to that effect. Well, Daniel Penny is not the man
who choked someone. He is the good samaritan who protected
an innocent, weak lady who was being terrorized by Jordan Neely.
Another black man helped him by the way, and a
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black woman stepped forward and said, I'm grateful he did it.
Jordan Neely, who when choked out died, was actually out on.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Another charge of doing this.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
If you've ever been to the subway in New York,
you realize there are certain people who live in the
subway all day and they terrorize people.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Some of them steal your wallet. They don't even bother to.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Leave the subway because nobody's gonna do anything about it.
They get you, get on, You end up in capsule,
this moving subway car with them, and they locked down
on you. Do you remember what John Rocker said when
he ended up in New York about the people of
New York and what you're dealing with you got some
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sixteen year old girl that's just giving birth.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
You got a crackhead.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
You got another dude, he's got a needle hanging out
of his arm. You got another dude it's on Heroin's
based out of his mind. You got another dude pulling
an eye, another guy pulling a gun. Bernie Getz just
trying to protect himself. It's a madhouse. Daniel Penny is
a hero.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
That's right. He's a hero, and that's how he ought
to be perceived.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
So then, as you just heard, you get these Black
Lives Matter folks, You get these NAACP folks, You get
all these people who contribute nothing to society. They just
run around screaming black people are slaves. We need to
kill the white people. Hell, we got people in Congress
doing that, Jasmine Crockett. You've got very very unproductive, negative
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people creating chaos. And what ought to happen is everybody
ought to ignore them. But the media loves it. Remember,
the media does not survive on harmonious functioning of our
democratic republic. The media loves to stoke this stuff. That's
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why in Ferguson, Missouri, or Minneapolis, that's why when black
Lives Matter or some other racist group of blacks start
burning stuff, destroying stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
That's why they go right there on and say, look
at this, Hey, what's going on. This is great because
it's can't miss.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
It's good for their ratings, and that's all they care
about because it's not on their doorstep. Love a good shooting,
they love a good OJ case, they love a good
Michael Brown case, they love Zimmerman. They love these cases.
But what's really going on out here, what's really going
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on is not white people vigilantes. We have too few,
not too many vigilantes in this country. By the way,
there are plenty of black vigilantes too, because never forget,
a black violent criminal is going to harm more black
people than white people always because they harm the people
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around them. They're always going to bust up at least
one of their baby mamas, at least one. They will
often bust up their mother, their grandmother, maybe some more
of their girlfriends, and the clerk at the liquor store,
convenience store.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Maybe the bus driver on the bus they get on.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Because the guy's black and does all that doesn't mean
he should get away with it.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
They should be dealt with.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
But when the police won't deal with them, or when
the police do deal with them and the sorow's district
attorneys won't deal with them, they're not going to stop.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
You see, that's the problem. The government made money off
of it. We didn't get nothing the hard time. The
Michael Berry Show. It's a damn shame. It's a damn shame.
It's a damn shame. It's a damn shame.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Let's go ahead and have this conversation. Why do we
keep having these crises? We're a black person ends up dead.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
When they do some horrible person, horrible.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Thing, and a white person has to step in and
stop it. So we had the case of Michael Brown
in Ferguson, Missouri. Michael Brown is massive, well over six
feet tall, close to three hundred pounds.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Black kid.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I say kid because when you're eighteen years old, you're
a kid to me. He goes into a little Indian
owned convenience store, little bitty, tiny, diminutive Indian shopkeeper.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
He and his wife are working there.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
He takes a big, massive box of Swiss or swites
like a month's were at the Black and Tans and
the owner this isn't a major corporation. This isn't Walgrange
or CBS where they go just let it go. That
owner he has to defend his store because probably has
no insurance in his store is everything. So he runs
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around and said, no, no, no, you can't steal that,
whereupon the gentle giant we're told, pummels him to the ground.
So the Indian guy, the convenient old Indian store, you know,
and he's like five two, he calls the cops. So
Michael Brown he's walking away with his Wisher sweets. He's
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just stolen because he's never been told that you don't
that you can't act like a savage because you know,
racism and everything. So a couple of blocks away there
comes up Darren Wilson, white police officer. Unfortunately he drew
the short straw he was closest. When he pulls up,
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he knows that's the guy they just made the call about.
So he pulls up and he says, hey, what's going on?
And Michael Brown attempts to walk away from him. He said, no, no, no,
what's going on? So Michael Brown walks over to the car,
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leans in and grabs Darren Wilson's gun. If you're the
guy sitting in the car, and another guy comes and
leans in and he's he's got over one hundred punds
on you. If you are both standing up and you're
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sitting down, you have no legs underneath you. An injury
occurs that blows the end of Darren Wilson's finger off
because Michael Brown's trying to kill him, and finally he
realizes he's not gonna be able to do so, so
he just releases and steps back, and he decides he's
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just going to walk off. He's not been taught good
decision making, let's start there. He's had a series of
bad decisions at this point. Now he's committing felonies. Darren
Wilson hops out because you can't let this guy go.
Now he's just committed a felony. Darren Wilson is index
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finger dripping with blood. An attempt to kill him is
just been made, and Michael Brown walks about twenty paces
away in front of the car. Darren Wilson stops and
Michael Brown turns around and like a raging bull, like
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in the cartoons, you know, smoke's coming out of his
nose and he's palling at the asphalt and he's going
to charge Darren Wilson, who says, do not do it.
Darren Wilson raises his gun, takes a defensive posture and
makes clear that if you do, I'm gonna shoot you.
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I have to defend myself. You've already tried to kill me.
Michael Brown continues to charge. When he charges, the first
bullet goes in. I think the second bullet goes in.
It's not till the third bullet. He's a big, strong
young man. At that point, he drops at Darren Wilson's feet.
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Officers swarm, witnesses tell what happened. Ben Crump, the lawyer,
the race bader, is brought in. By the next day,
the story has changed. Michael Brown was shot in the back.
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This is what happens in America. This officer pulled up.
Michael Brown didn't want to have to deal with the
cops because you know, all the cops do is harassed
black people. Michael Brown began to walk away and the
cop jumped out and shot him dead in the back.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
So said Michael Brown's buddy, who was with him.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
He was out on a he had a pending charge
himself already at that point, he's a little juvenile, delinquent himself.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Shot him in the back, shut him dead like a dog.
That was the evening news story.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
White cops are bad Black people or black criminals or victims.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
That theme will run.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Through George Floyd, George Zimmerman, all of them, every story.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
That's going to be the thing. Okay, white people who
stop black.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Criminals from committing crimes are racist, and black criminals are victims.
And nobody wants to say what's really happening in this country?
But we all know, and this pervades every aspect of
American life. It underpins THEI, it underpins police relations, it
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underpins our criminal justice system, it underpins our elections because nobody,
every person should step forward and say this is what's happening,
this is what's not period in the story. So he'd
been shot in the back, Michael Brown. So we had
riots and Ferguson Missouri. Well, the problem with this is
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it's pretty easy to do an autopsy and see an
entry wound and an exit wound. All of the people there,
all of them black, changed their story once Ben Crump
cut the down.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
So what does that tell you?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Were they scared to tell the truth. Were they paid
to tell a lie? So we had all the things
that happened, you remember, and then eventually Darren Wilson, a
jury of his peers said he didn't do anything wrong.
Remember Trayvon. Trayvon was such a victim. And this George
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Zimmermann was a bad guy in NBC. Remember when they
bashed his head into the concrete American History Acts style
and NBC altered the video. Why would you alter the
video because it was very important that the black man
be a victim, not violent. And neighborhood associations are racists,
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they don't like black people, and all these things.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Remember all that.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, remember Trayvon's brilliant friend and she got up there
and she'd used it. She explained the use of the
N word, whether it has r at the internet. All
of these stories have one common theme that violent black
people are victims. Don't stop them. And this is why
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CBS and.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Walgreens is pulling out of every major city.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
This is why department stores the club because they don't
want to have to stop the next.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Jordan Neely Bizarre of talk radio The Michael Barry Show.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
A number of you, you went into your bedroom over
the garage. You know, there was always the upstairs bedroom.
The kid would go up, slam the door behind them,
and you know, they were your concert posters.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
And you jam out to this and think how out
of touch your parents were.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
While your mom downstairs, she's got the new tone appliances,
she's making mashed potatoes for dinner. You know, we still
have you know that hole in the counter. It has
the prong out of it, and you can put the mixer,
you can put the knife sharpener, the old new tone. Yeah,
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our studios are were built in Our studios are in
town homes that were built in the sixties, and so
we've kept all the original appliances and we love them.
It's like a it's like a Smithsonian of the sixties,
which we think is awesome. But anyway, I didn't listen
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to Pink Floyd at that time in the way those
of you who did were going through a phase. I
listened to classic country, George Jones, Merle Haggard, Mickey Gilly,
Johnny Lee, Charlie Daniels.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
You get the point.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
In fact, it was not until many years later that
I went back and did a study of a lot
of things that I didn't listen to. At that time,
I knew who Pink Flood was. I knew that we
don't need no education. You know, we don't need no
teav I identified with that, but I wasn't on a level.
I didn't have any angst. I was pretty straightforward, simple.
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It wasn't until later that I undertook my own study
of why this album was important and what it represented.
When Sid leaves the band and Roger Waters has to
be has to to carry the band and you know,
wish you were here is some pretty deep stuff. I
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didn't know that at the time. I had to go
back many years later. There I've confessed it. So back
to the Daniel Penny verdict, which we did not talk
about yesterday. And by the way, if you're wondering why
we haven't talked about the suspect in the shooting of
the United Health CEO, it's because we don't know enough yet.
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I understand, because I get this all time. I understand
that a lot of people will immediately talk about something
as breaking news because they think that's what you want,
and maybe you do. I don't trust primary news sources,
so I wait through the primary news cycle for the
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secondary round, where I can say, well, that doesn't make sense.
And there's a lot about this, this guy that supposedly
shot the United CEO that doesn't make sense. Well, we'll
get to that. We will talk about it. I've said
it all along. And because we err on a lot
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of news stations, this frustrates people. We are not a
breaking news show. Sean Hannity will say we are a
breaking news show. They like to break news.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
I do not.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I do not believe first his best I don't care
who has the exclusive facts matter to me.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
That's not a knock on Sean. I want to be
very clear.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I'm not insulting Sean when I say that. I'm simply
saying we take a different approach. So here is Daniel
Penny talking about that moment on the subway that would
change his life. But I want to be very clear,
Daniel Penny didn't wake up that morning thinking I'm gonna
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kill a black guy, or for that matter, I'm gonna
kill anyone. Daniel Penny was not. Did you ever see
that video ver Mona?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
The guy it was a it's like a Vikings Eagles game.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I forget who it was, but the guy had been
on a bender like a week long bender on drugs,
and there's video of him just going up in just
smashing into these two guys, I mean, just pummels them
and then comes back and does it again. And these
two poor guys, they're just at the game trying to
enjoy themselves. That guy was out looking for trouble. Daniel
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Penny was a good samaritan.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
He's a hero. Let's be very clear.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Jordan Neely caused this problem, not Daniel Penny. Here's Daniel
Penny explaining in his own words what happened.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
He's village of Manhattan. So I take the subway multiple
times a day. In this instance, I was coming from school.
I got out of class around two fifteen and I
took the I was at Chase Street metro Tech, took
the uptown after train. At Second Avenue. A man came on,
stumbled on. He appeared to be on drugs. The doors
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closed and he ripped his jacket off and violent and
threw it at the people sitting.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Down to my left.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
I was listening to music at the time and he
was yelling, so I took my headphones out to hear
what he was yelling. And the three main threats that
he repeated over and over, was I'm gonna kill you.
I'm prepared to go to jail for life, and I'm
willing to die. You know this is this was a
scary situation, and mister really came on.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
He was he was threatening. I'm six too, and he
was taller than me, so it was.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
And there's a common misconception that Marines don't get scared.
We're actually taught one of our core values is courage,
and courage is not the absence of fear, but how
you handle fear. And you know, I was scared for myself.
But I looked around. I saw women and children. He
was yelling in their faces, saying, saying these threats. I
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couldn't just sit still. Some people say that I was
holding on to mysterily for fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
This is not true.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
I mean, between stops is only a couple of minutes,
and so the whole interaction less less and less than
five minutes. Some people say I was trying to choke
him to death, which is all so not true. I
was trying to restrain him. You could see in the
video there's a clear rise and fall of his chests,
indicating that he's breathing. I'm trying to restrain him from
him being able to carry out the threats. And then
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some people say that this was about race, which is
absolutely ridiculous. I didn't see a black man threatening passengers.
I saw a man threatening passengers that's a lot of
whom were people of color. A man who helped restrained
mister Neely was a person of color. A few days
after the incident, I read in the papers that a
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woman of color came out and called me a hero.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
What.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
I don't believe that I'm a hero, but she was
one of those people that I was trying to protect.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
We were all scared.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Mister Neely was yelling in these passengers' faces, and they
looked terrified. The reason why there was no video at
the start of the altercation was because people were too
afraid getting away from him, and the videos didn't start
until they saw that situation was under control. I knew
I had to act, and I acted in a way
that would protect the other passengers, protect myself, and protect
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mister Neely. I used this hole to restrain him, and
I did this by leaving my hand on top of
his head to control his body. You could see in
the video, there's a clear rise and fall of his
chest indicating that he was still breathing. And I'm calibrating
my grip based on the force that he's exerting. And
I just I mean, I was trying to keep him
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on the ground until the police came. I was praying
that the police would come and take this situation, take
this situation over. I didn't want to be put in
that situation, but if I couldn't just sit still and
let him carry out.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
These things, the King of Ding and this other guy,
Michael Barry, these are the kind of guys you like
to smack an air as.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Before the verdict came in, so on the manslaughter charge,
the case was dismissed. Jury couldn't get to a verdict,
but they did get to a verdict on the negligent homicide.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
You're not actually supposed to do that. What the judge
was doing was waiting.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
It would be the equivalent you know in football, when
you change out your personnel on offensive play, you have
to give a set amount of time for the defense
to send in their specialized personnel.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
What the judge and the district attorney did in this case.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Is basically set a formation, wait on the jury to
see how the jury reacted, and then bring a whole
other case that is outside the system of justice. But
mind you, we're talking about fat Alvin Bragg. This is
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a guy who's that murderers go free while terrorizing Donald Trump.
What you are witnessing is a race war in this country.
I want to be clear on this. You're witnessing a
race war that most Americans are not only part of
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actively fighting, they're not even aware of it. You listen
to Jasmine Crockett just when you get home today. Look
up Jasmine Crockett. She's a congressman, a black woman congressman
from Texas, and she just basically screams on the floor
of the house. She hates white people. Look at the
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comments we played them earlier in the hour we opened
the show with it from the Black Lives Matter head.
Look at what the NAACP did and who is the NAACP.
What moral authority does the National Association for the Advancement
of Color People have an organization that left one hundred
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thousand dollars bill unpaid in Houston for their convention. And
when I think it was the Four Seasons. Because we've
gotta be fancy. Whenever the I think it was the
Four Seasons called them on it, they claimed it was racism.
You realize this is happening all day every day, black
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people going into a restaurant as a group, running up
a bill and walking out, and when someone hey, you
gotta pay, you're a racist.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
You know where this mindset comes from.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
This is what happens in the country where there's stoking
racism day in and day out. Well, when you do
these sorts of things, do you think that makes people
like black people? My kids are black.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
I don't want people to hate black people.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
I don't want people to believe that every black person,
if you hire them, is going to claim racism. If
they don't show up to work, you can't fire them,
or they'll claim racism. If you don't promote them because
someone else is better than them, they'll claim racism.
Speaker 7 (28:16):
You know what ends up happening when that happens. When
people do that, people don't hire black people. They find
ways not to hire black people because they don't want
to have to continue to confront that when people falsely
claim racism, if you don't shut that.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Down and you allow it, you empower it. You perpetuate
it that increases racism.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
We are in a worse place with race relations in
this country today than we were before Barack Obama because
Barack Obama's throwdown has always been race.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Kamala Harris's throwdown has always been race.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Joe Biden used race to get blacks to vote for
him because I might be a stupid, old, corrupt white guy,
but I'm on your side.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
You don't want them white he's over there?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
What kind of craziness is that? So before the not
guilty verdict, New York City's Mayor Eric Adams said he
hoped that the jury would do the.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Right thing.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Because Daniel Penny did what the city should have done,
and that is keep the subway safe. This man, Daniel Penny,
should be honored. But instead, look what he's had.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
To go through. Look what he's had to go through,
and what happens next.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
There's lots of Jordan Eely's out there, plenty more to
fill the void. So now they're terrorizing the subway, except
this time the Daniel Penny turns and looks away, walks away,
because who wants to be subjected to potentially go into prison?
Speaker 1 (30:29):
And what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (30:32):
The police there aren't enough police to keep the peace.
You need the public to assist to protect the weak
against the evil.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
But now you won't have that. Now you won't have
that anyway.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Here is and by the way, Eric Adams is a
former police officer. I had high hopes for Eric Adams
as the mayor of New York. I know he's the
toast of the MAGA crowd. Now I don't trust it,
but I do like what he had to say here.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
You should look at that on a multi faceted approach
of everything that's wrong with the system that we're facing.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
One, look at the photo that they used to show
the victims.
Speaker 8 (31:14):
It seemed like it was a young innocent child who
was brutally murdered, and it gave that impression when you
look at the photo that was being used and wanted
to set up in the minds of people that we
were dealing with a young innocent child that you know,
just a Michael Jackson intimidator that you know was just
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brutally assaulted. Then you look at the complete failure of
our mental health system, a complete failure from the days
of closing psychiatric wards and having those who needed help
just turned over into the street without giving any safety
net to accept them. Parents reach out to me all
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the time and say, I'm watching my child go down
on my love for all my family and were going
down this serious decline. What do we do a system
where you brought people into hospitals, David medicine for one
day and center back. The young man in this case
was going within our system throughout the revolving door of
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our system. Now we're on the subway where we're hearing
someone talking about hurting people, killing people.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
You have someone on that subway.
Speaker 8 (32:28):
Who was responding doing what we should have done as
a city in a state of having a battle a
mental health facility.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Those passengers were afraid.
Speaker 8 (32:39):
I've been I'm hoping that the juries are the jury
will hear all the facts.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Based on all the facts that's.
Speaker 8 (32:44):
Laid out, a jury of his peers would make the
right decision, and I don't want to prejudge that. I'm
just looking at all the facts that are involved here
and what we did to get to where we are
and what we're seeing it, because that could have easily
been a case when you saw three innercent people murdering
the street of two weeks ago,
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. Michael
Very Show is.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
On the air.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Daniel Penny has been found not guilty of criminally negligent homicide.
The jury deliberated for more than twenty four hours across
five days before reaching this verdict.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Every read to gathering perfect tal sign by side on
my john key, Look, why don't we It's like everybody
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else has vigilities. We need some black vigilities.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Want to jump up and choke us and kill us
for being loud? How about we do the same when
they attempt to oppress us. Right, I'm tiring TI America
hates black people and we see it from that jury
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and sign my sign? Oh my god?
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Why what?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Then hour twenty minutes later they said not guilty. These
wonderful white people, I hope they celebrate their Christmas while
the Nearly family is praying and asking God for comfort.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Then in America.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
Never mind that Daniel Penny has not, at least as
of now, volunteered to be the rights next George Zimmerman
or Kyle Rittenhouse to vigilante heroes of the right who
are beloved and famous among Republicans solely for killing people
who they believe need killing and getting acquitted.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
For it at trial.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
Armed conservative must be heavily armed and empowered to kill
at will with your handgun, your AR fifteen, or even
with your bare hands, anyone who makes you feel threatened
or uncomfortable anywhere, anytime, at your front door and your driveway,
driving by a Black Lives Matter rally, or on the terrifying,
scary black man Field New York subway. And the people
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who tend to need killing just happen to be black
or brown, or suffering from mental health crises or white
but just a little too cozy with BLM, and killing
them is not just your right Republican citizen.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Doing it makes you a hero.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Then told some of you yesterday asked why we did
not discuss the Daniel Penny verdict yesterday, And I noticed,
based on where you emailed in Tulsa, Philadelphia, Sacramento, that
your new markets are new listeners to the show. So
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let me explain something so that you understand every show
is different. There is a method to our madness here
on the show, and it is a position I have
taken that I stand by, and that is we do
not comment on news as it's happening for a reason,
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because you are relying on breaking news from what are
called in the business primary news sources that are extremely,
extremely biased. The New York Times this morning headline said
man who choked rider on subway has been freed, something
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to that effect. Well, Daniel Penny is not the man
who choked someone. He is the good samaritan who protected
an innocent, weak lady who was being terrorized by Jordan Neely.
Another black man helped him by the way, and a
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black woman stepped forward and said, I'm grateful he did it.
Jordan Neely, who when choked out died, was actually out on.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Another charge of doing this.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
If you've ever been to the subway in New York,
you realize there are certain people who live in the
subway all day and they terrorize people.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Some of them steal your wallet. They don't even bother to.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Leave the subway because nobody's gonna do anything about it.
They get you, get on, You end up in capsule,
this moving subway car with them, and they locked down
on you. Do you remember what John Rocker said when
he ended up in New York about the people of
New York and what you're dealing with you got some
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sixteen year old girl that's just giving birth.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
You got a crackhead.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
You got another dude, he's got a needle hanging out
of his arm. You got another dude it's on Heroin's
based out of his mind. You got another dude pulling
an eye, another guy pulling a gun. Bernie Getz just
trying to protect himself. It's a madhouse. Daniel Penny is
a hero.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
That's right. He's a hero, and that's how he ought
to be perceived.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
So then, as you just heard, you get these Black
Lives Matter folks, You get these NAACP folks, You get
all these people who contribute nothing to society. They just
run around screaming black people are slaves. We need to
kill the white people. Hell, we got people in Congress
doing that, Jasmine Crockett. You've got very very unproductive, negative
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people creating chaos. And what ought to happen is everybody
ought to ignore them. But the media loves it. Remember,
the media does not survive on harmonious functioning of our
democratic republic. The media loves to stoke this stuff. That's
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why in Ferguson, Missouri, or Minneapolis, that's why when black
Lives Matter or some other racist group of blacks start
burning stuff, destroying stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
That's why they go right there on and say, look
at this, Hey, what's going on. This is great because
it's can't miss.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
It's good for their ratings, and that's all they care
about because it's not on their doorstep. Love a good shooting,
they love a good OJ case, they love a good
Michael Brown case, they love Zimmerman. They love these cases.
But what's really going on out here, what's really going
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on is not white people vigilantes. We have too few,
not too many vigilantes in this country. By the way,
there are plenty of black vigilantes too, because never forget,
a black violent criminal is going to harm more black
people than white people always because they harm the people
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around them. They're always going to bust up at least
one of their baby mamas, at least one. They will
often bust up their mother, their grandmother, maybe some more
of their girlfriends, and the clerk at the liquor store,
convenience store.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Maybe the bus driver on the bus they get on.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Because the guy's black and does all that doesn't mean
he should get away with it.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
They should be dealt with.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
But when the police won't deal with them, or when
the police do deal with them and the sorow's district
attorneys won't deal with them, they're not going to stop.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
You see, that's the problem. The government made money off
of it. We didn't get nothing the hard time. The
Michael Berry Show. It's a damn shame. It's a damn shame.
It's a damn shame. It's a damn shame.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Let's go ahead and have this conversation. Why do we
keep having these crises? We're a black person ends up dead.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
When they do some horrible person, horrible.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Thing, and a white person has to step in and
stop it. So we had the case of Michael Brown
in Ferguson, Missouri. Michael Brown is massive, well over six
feet tall, close to three hundred pounds.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Black kid.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I say kid because when you're eighteen years old, you're
a kid to me. He goes into a little Indian
owned convenience store, little bitty, tiny, diminutive Indian shopkeeper.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
He and his wife are working there.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
He takes a big, massive box of Swiss or swites
like a month's were at the Black and Tans and
the owner this isn't a major corporation. This isn't Walgrange
or CBS where they go just let it go. That
owner he has to defend his store because probably has
no insurance in his store is everything. So he runs
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around and said, no, no, no, you can't steal that,
whereupon the gentle giant we're told, pummels him to the ground.
So the Indian guy, the convenient old Indian store, you know,
and he's like five two, he calls the cops. So
Michael Brown he's walking away with his Wisher sweets. He's
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just stolen because he's never been told that you don't
that you can't act like a savage because you know,
racism and everything. So a couple of blocks away there
comes up Darren Wilson, white police officer. Unfortunately he drew
the short straw he was closest. When he pulls up,
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he knows that's the guy they just made the call about.
So he pulls up and he says, hey, what's going on?
And Michael Brown attempts to walk away from him. He said, no, no, no,
what's going on? So Michael Brown walks over to the car,
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leans in and grabs Darren Wilson's gun. If you're the
guy sitting in the car, and another guy comes and
leans in and he's he's got over one hundred punds
on you. If you are both standing up and you're
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sitting down, you have no legs underneath you. An injury
occurs that blows the end of Darren Wilson's finger off
because Michael Brown's trying to kill him, and finally he
realizes he's not gonna be able to do so, so
he just releases and steps back, and he decides he's
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just going to walk off. He's not been taught good
decision making, let's start there. He's had a series of
bad decisions at this point. Now he's committing felonies. Darren
Wilson hops out because you can't let this guy go.
Now he's just committed a felony. Darren Wilson is index
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finger dripping with blood. An attempt to kill him is
just been made, and Michael Brown walks about twenty paces
away in front of the car. Darren Wilson stops and
Michael Brown turns around and like a raging bull, like
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in the cartoons, you know, smoke's coming out of his
nose and he's palling at the asphalt and he's going
to charge Darren Wilson, who says, do not do it.
Darren Wilson raises his gun, takes a defensive posture and
makes clear that if you do, I'm gonna shoot you.
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I have to defend myself. You've already tried to kill me.
Michael Brown continues to charge. When he charges, the first
bullet goes in. I think the second bullet goes in.
It's not till the third bullet. He's a big, strong
young man. At that point, he drops at Darren Wilson's feet.
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Officers swarm, witnesses tell what happened. Ben Crump, the lawyer,
the race bader, is brought in. By the next day,
the story has changed. Michael Brown was shot in the back.
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This is what happens in America. This officer pulled up.
Michael Brown didn't want to have to deal with the
cops because you know, all the cops do is harassed
black people. Michael Brown began to walk away and the
cop jumped out and shot him dead in the back.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
So said Michael Brown's buddy, who was with him.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
He was out on a he had a pending charge
himself already at that point, he's a little juvenile, delinquent himself.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Shot him in the back, shut him dead like a dog.
That was the evening news story.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
White cops are bad Black people or black criminals or victims.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
That theme will run.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Through George Floyd, George Zimmerman, all of them, every story.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
That's going to be the thing. Okay, white people who
stop black.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Criminals from committing crimes are racist, and black criminals are victims.
And nobody wants to say what's really happening in this country?
But we all know, and this pervades every aspect of
American life. It underpins THEI, it underpins police relations, it
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underpins our criminal justice system, it underpins our elections because nobody,
every person should step forward and say this is what's happening,
this is what's not period in the story. So he'd
been shot in the back, Michael Brown. So we had
riots and Ferguson Missouri. Well, the problem with this is
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it's pretty easy to do an autopsy and see an
entry wound and an exit wound. All of the people there,
all of them black, changed their story once Ben Crump
cut the down.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
So what does that tell you?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Were they scared to tell the truth. Were they paid
to tell a lie? So we had all the things
that happened, you remember, and then eventually Darren Wilson, a
jury of his peers said he didn't do anything wrong.
Remember Trayvon. Trayvon was such a victim. And this George
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Zimmermann was a bad guy in NBC. Remember when they
bashed his head into the concrete American History Acts style
and NBC altered the video. Why would you alter the
video because it was very important that the black man
be a victim, not violent. And neighborhood associations are racists,
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they don't like black people, and all these things.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Remember all that.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, remember Trayvon's brilliant friend and she got up there
and she'd used it. She explained the use of the
N word, whether it has r at the internet. All
of these stories have one common theme that violent black
people are victims. Don't stop them. And this is why
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CBS and.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Walgreens is pulling out of every major city.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
This is why department stores the club because they don't
want to have to stop the next.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Jordan Neely Bizarre of talk radio The Michael Barry Show.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
A number of you, you went into your bedroom over
the garage. You know, there was always the upstairs bedroom.
The kid would go up, slam the door behind them,
and you know, they were your concert posters.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
And you jam out to this and think how out
of touch your parents were.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
While your mom downstairs, she's got the new tone appliances,
she's making mashed potatoes for dinner. You know, we still
have you know that hole in the counter. It has
the prong out of it, and you can put the mixer,
you can put the knife sharpener, the old new tone. Yeah,
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our studios are were built in Our studios are in
town homes that were built in the sixties, and so
we've kept all the original appliances and we love them.
It's like a it's like a Smithsonian of the sixties,
which we think is awesome. But anyway, I didn't listen
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to Pink Floyd at that time in the way those
of you who did were going through a phase. I
listened to classic country, George Jones, Merle Haggard, Mickey Gilly,
Johnny Lee, Charlie Daniels.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
You get the point.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
In fact, it was not until many years later that
I went back and did a study of a lot
of things that I didn't listen to. At that time,
I knew who Pink Flood was. I knew that we
don't need no education. You know, we don't need no
teav I identified with that, but I wasn't on a level.
I didn't have any angst. I was pretty straightforward, simple.
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It wasn't until later that I undertook my own study
of why this album was important and what it represented.
When Sid leaves the band and Roger Waters has to
be has to to carry the band and you know,
wish you were here is some pretty deep stuff. I
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didn't know that at the time. I had to go
back many years later. There I've confessed it. So back
to the Daniel Penny verdict, which we did not talk
about yesterday. And by the way, if you're wondering why
we haven't talked about the suspect in the shooting of
the United Health CEO, it's because we don't know enough yet.
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I understand, because I get this all time. I understand
that a lot of people will immediately talk about something
as breaking news because they think that's what you want,
and maybe you do. I don't trust primary news sources,
so I wait through the primary news cycle for the
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secondary round, where I can say, well, that doesn't make sense.
And there's a lot about this, this guy that supposedly
shot the United CEO that doesn't make sense. Well, we'll
get to that. We will talk about it. I've said
it all along. And because we err on a lot
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of news stations, this frustrates people. We are not a
breaking news show. Sean Hannity will say we are a
breaking news show. They like to break news.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
I do not.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I do not believe first his best I don't care
who has the exclusive facts matter to me.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
That's not a knock on Sean. I want to be
very clear.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I'm not insulting Sean when I say that. I'm simply
saying we take a different approach. So here is Daniel
Penny talking about that moment on the subway that would
change his life. But I want to be very clear,
Daniel Penny didn't wake up that morning thinking I'm gonna
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kill a black guy, or for that matter, I'm gonna
kill anyone. Daniel Penny was not. Did you ever see
that video ver Mona?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
The guy it was a it's like a Vikings Eagles game.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I forget who it was, but the guy had been
on a bender like a week long bender on drugs,
and there's video of him just going up in just
smashing into these two guys, I mean, just pummels them
and then comes back and does it again. And these
two poor guys, they're just at the game trying to
enjoy themselves. That guy was out looking for trouble. Daniel
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Penny was a good samaritan.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
He's a hero. Let's be very clear.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Jordan Neely caused this problem, not Daniel Penny. Here's Daniel
Penny explaining in his own words what happened.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
He's village of Manhattan. So I take the subway multiple
times a day. In this instance, I was coming from school.
I got out of class around two fifteen and I
took the I was at Chase Street metro Tech, took
the uptown after train. At Second Avenue. A man came on,
stumbled on. He appeared to be on drugs. The doors
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closed and he ripped his jacket off and violent and
threw it at the people sitting.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Down to my left.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
I was listening to music at the time and he
was yelling, so I took my headphones out to hear
what he was yelling. And the three main threats that
he repeated over and over, was I'm gonna kill you.
I'm prepared to go to jail for life, and I'm
willing to die. You know this is this was a
scary situation, and mister really came on.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
He was he was threatening. I'm six too, and he
was taller than me, so it was.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
And there's a common misconception that Marines don't get scared.
We're actually taught one of our core values is courage,
and courage is not the absence of fear, but how
you handle fear. And you know, I was scared for myself.
But I looked around. I saw women and children. He
was yelling in their faces, saying, saying these threats. I
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couldn't just sit still. Some people say that I was
holding on to mysterily for fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
This is not true.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
I mean, between stops is only a couple of minutes,
and so the whole interaction less less and less than
five minutes. Some people say I was trying to choke
him to death, which is all so not true. I
was trying to restrain him. You could see in the
video there's a clear rise and fall of his chests,
indicating that he's breathing. I'm trying to restrain him from
him being able to carry out the threats. And then
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some people say that this was about race, which is
absolutely ridiculous. I didn't see a black man threatening passengers.
I saw a man threatening passengers that's a lot of
whom were people of color. A man who helped restrained
mister Neely was a person of color. A few days
after the incident, I read in the papers that a
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woman of color came out and called me a hero.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
What.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
I don't believe that I'm a hero, but she was
one of those people that I was trying to protect.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
We were all scared.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Mister Neely was yelling in these passengers' faces, and they
looked terrified. The reason why there was no video at
the start of the altercation was because people were too
afraid getting away from him, and the videos didn't start
until they saw that situation was under control. I knew
I had to act, and I acted in a way
that would protect the other passengers, protect myself, and protect
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mister Neely. I used this hole to restrain him, and
I did this by leaving my hand on top of
his head to control his body. You could see in
the video, there's a clear rise and fall of his
chest indicating that he was still breathing. And I'm calibrating
my grip based on the force that he's exerting. And
I just I mean, I was trying to keep him
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on the ground until the police came. I was praying
that the police would come and take this situation, take
this situation over. I didn't want to be put in
that situation, but if I couldn't just sit still and
let him carry out.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
These things, the King of Ding and this other guy,
Michael Barry, these are the kind of guys you like
to smack an air as.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Before the verdict came in, so on the manslaughter charge,
the case was dismissed. Jury couldn't get to a verdict,
but they did get to a verdict on the negligent homicide.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
You're not actually supposed to do that. What the judge
was doing was waiting.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
It would be the equivalent you know in football, when
you change out your personnel on offensive play, you have
to give a set amount of time for the defense
to send in their specialized personnel.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
What the judge and the district attorney did in this case.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Is basically set a formation, wait on the jury to
see how the jury reacted, and then bring a whole
other case that is outside the system of justice. But
mind you, we're talking about fat Alvin Bragg. This is
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a guy who's that murderers go free while terrorizing Donald Trump.
What you are witnessing is a race war in this country.
I want to be clear on this. You're witnessing a
race war that most Americans are not only part of
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actively fighting, they're not even aware of it. You listen
to Jasmine Crockett just when you get home today. Look
up Jasmine Crockett. She's a congressman, a black woman congressman
from Texas, and she just basically screams on the floor
of the house. She hates white people. Look at the
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comments we played them earlier in the hour we opened
the show with it from the Black Lives Matter head.
Look at what the NAACP did and who is the NAACP.
What moral authority does the National Association for the Advancement
of Color People have an organization that left one hundred
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thousand dollars bill unpaid in Houston for their convention. And
when I think it was the Four Seasons. Because we've
gotta be fancy. Whenever the I think it was the
Four Seasons called them on it, they claimed it was racism.
You realize this is happening all day every day, black
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people going into a restaurant as a group, running up
a bill and walking out, and when someone hey, you
gotta pay, you're a racist.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
You know where this mindset comes from.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
This is what happens in the country where there's stoking
racism day in and day out. Well, when you do
these sorts of things, do you think that makes people
like black people? My kids are black.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
I don't want people to hate black people.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
I don't want people to believe that every black person,
if you hire them, is going to claim racism. If
they don't show up to work, you can't fire them,
or they'll claim racism. If you don't promote them because
someone else is better than them, they'll claim racism.
Speaker 7 (28:16):
You know what ends up happening when that happens. When
people do that, people don't hire black people. They find
ways not to hire black people because they don't want
to have to continue to confront that when people falsely
claim racism, if you don't shut that.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Down and you allow it, you empower it. You perpetuate
it that increases racism.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
We are in a worse place with race relations in
this country today than we were before Barack Obama because
Barack Obama's throwdown has always been race.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Kamala Harris's throwdown has always been race.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Joe Biden used race to get blacks to vote for
him because I might be a stupid, old, corrupt white guy,
but I'm on your side.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
You don't want them white he's over there?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
What kind of craziness is that? So before the not
guilty verdict, New York City's Mayor Eric Adams said he
hoped that the jury would do the.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Right thing.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Because Daniel Penny did what the city should have done,
and that is keep the subway safe. This man, Daniel Penny,
should be honored. But instead, look what he's had.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
To go through. Look what he's had to go through,
and what happens next.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
There's lots of Jordan Eely's out there, plenty more to
fill the void. So now they're terrorizing the subway, except
this time the Daniel Penny turns and looks away, walks away,
because who wants to be subjected to potentially go into prison?
Speaker 1 (30:29):
And what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (30:32):
The police there aren't enough police to keep the peace.
You need the public to assist to protect the weak
against the evil.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
But now you won't have that. Now you won't have
that anyway.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Here is and by the way, Eric Adams is a
former police officer. I had high hopes for Eric Adams
as the mayor of New York. I know he's the
toast of the MAGA crowd. Now I don't trust it,
but I do like what he had to say here.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
You should look at that on a multi faceted approach
of everything that's wrong with the system that we're facing.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
One, look at the photo that they used to show
the victims.
Speaker 8 (31:14):
It seemed like it was a young innocent child who
was brutally murdered, and it gave that impression when you
look at the photo that was being used and wanted
to set up in the minds of people that we
were dealing with a young innocent child that you know,
just a Michael Jackson intimidator that you know was just
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brutally assaulted. Then you look at the complete failure of
our mental health system, a complete failure from the days
of closing psychiatric wards and having those who needed help
just turned over into the street without giving any safety
net to accept them. Parents reach out to me all
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the time and say, I'm watching my child go down
on my love for all my family and were going
down this serious decline. What do we do a system
where you brought people into hospitals, David medicine for one
day and center back. The young man in this case
was going within our system throughout the revolving door of
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our system. Now we're on the subway where we're hearing
someone talking about hurting people, killing people.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
You have someone on that subway.
Speaker 8 (32:28):
Who was responding doing what we should have done as
a city in a state of having a battle a
mental health facility.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Those passengers were afraid.
Speaker 8 (32:39):
I've been I'm hoping that the juries are the jury
will hear all the facts.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Based on all the facts that's.
Speaker 8 (32:44):
Laid out, a jury of his peers would make the
right decision, and I don't want to prejudge that. I'm
just looking at all the facts that are involved here
and what we did to get to where we are
and what we're seeing it, because that could have easily
been a case when you saw three innercent people murdering
the street of two weeks ago,
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