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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. Michael
Verishow is on the air.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
The US is the first time in.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
The history of the world where.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
A government was organized with a constitution laying out the
rules that the individual was supreme and dominant. And that
is what led to the US becoming the greatest country
ever because it unleashed people to be the best they
could be, unlike it had ever happened.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
That's American exceptionalism.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Our resolve is unbroken and our purpose is unchanged to
delivery government that serves the American people better than ever before.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
To win with every single facet.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
We're going to win so much you may even get
tired of winning. And you say, please, please, it's too
much winning.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
We can't take.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
It anymore, mister President, it's too much, and I'll say no,
it isn't.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
We have to keep winning. We have to win more.
We're gonna win more.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
We're gonna win so nice it never.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
Again.

Speaker 5 (01:22):
It is a tall, crowd city built on rocks stronger
than oceans, wind swept.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
God blessed and teeming with people.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
Of all kinds, living in harmony and peace. A city
with ports that hunged with commerce and creativity, and if
there had to be city walls, the walls had doors,
and the doors were open to anyone with the wills
and the heart to get it.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
That's how I saw it and see it still.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
And we will restore and renovate our nations once great cities,
making them safe, clean, and beautiful again, and that includes
our nation's capital.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Together the Hill, we will die on deportation. Democrats are
locking arms in defiance over Trump's plan for mass deportation.
That's the mandate, folks, There's no question. Every poll reflects it.
But they are going to extract an emotional toll because

(02:27):
they don't think we're committed Democrats. Strategist Julie Razinski Raginsky
not that it matters, was on CNN when she said
she would physically stop the military from deporting illegals.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
I'd like to watch that promise you with every fiber
of my being, because I'll probably be one of those
people that if anybody comes to these people and tries
to drag them out by force, there will be protests
of people like me, American citizens who are going to
stand there and do everything possible to prevent these women
and children, which is all who these people are about.

Speaker 6 (03:03):
You.

Speaker 7 (03:07):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
I live next to these people. I can tell you
there are women and their children. Are there terrorists among them?
I don't know, but I can tell you that. But
I can tell you let me Okay, But what I'm
telling you right now, practically speaking, is that there will
be people American citizens who will prevent these little kids
from being dragged out of these shelters. There are And
what's going to happen to these people? What is going

(03:27):
to happen to the military when the military opens fire
on us.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
We're laying down a rabbit hole there. I suggest you
not be in the middle of obstructing an officer of
the law from doing their job. That's what I suggest. Oh, Michael,
that's just one crazy gal on television talking tough. By
the way, she'd be the last one to be stopping anybody.
No actual Democrats talking about not cooperating with Ice, right yep.

(03:58):
First up Exhibit A, the Mayor of Boston, Michelle Wu.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
What will Boston's response be if these mass deportations take place?

Speaker 8 (04:05):
Yeah, Look, elections have consequences, and the federal government is
responsible for a certain set of actions and cities. No
individual city can reverse or override some parts of that.
But what we can do is make sure that we
are doing our part to protect our residents in every
possible way, that we are not cooperating with those efforts

(04:25):
that actually threaten the safety of everyone by causing widespread
fear and having large scale economic impact.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Arizona's governor, Democrat Katie Hobbs, says the same thing as
Michelle wou.

Speaker 7 (04:40):
Hearing about the Trump administration's plans for border security, The
emphasis really is on this mass deportation. What we saw
here today is the actual work happening at our parts
of entry that are interdicting drugs, keeping those drugs off
our streets, and we need more of that to to

(05:00):
secure the border here.

Speaker 9 (05:02):
As you know, Trump has promised that he would carry
out mass deportations on day one of his presidency.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Your state is.

Speaker 9 (05:08):
Estimated to have a quarter of a million undocumented immigrants.
Some Democrats in your state, like Phoenix mayor Diego, say
that she wouldn't allow police to be used to carry
out this plan. Would you, as governor allow state police
and National Guard to carry out mass deportations.

Speaker 7 (05:28):
We will not be participating in misguided efforts that harm
our communities, and I've been incredibly clear about that.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
So you disagree with.

Speaker 9 (05:39):
Mass deportations and the fact that the President elects says
that's what he's going to be working on day one.

Speaker 7 (05:46):
Well, I think that those efforts are going to divert
needed resources that we need here on these drug interdiction
and smuggling and trafficking efforts to keep harm out of
our community. We need those resources here and the the
coming here today. I've seen this operation firsthand. Just understores

(06:09):
that that that working in partnership here is how we
can secure the border.

Speaker 9 (06:14):
What would worry you the most, Governor about mass deportations, Well.

Speaker 7 (06:19):
I think the diversion of law enforcements from their their
the the work that they do every day to keep
our community safe. People hiding in fear. We saw that
under previous Just.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Say it out loud. We brought these people here as slaves,
as slaves were once bought brought here. We've brought these
people here to keep them poor and voting for Democrats.
We've scared them to death of the Republicans. We've given
them every governmental benefit we can to keep them voting

(06:59):
Democrats so that we can stay in power. Just call
it what it is. Tom Holman, the man for the job,
was on Newsmax when he was asked about Boston's mayor
Michelle Woo's comments. He made the point, and he's right,
she's not very smart.

Speaker 10 (07:18):
Depending our residence every possible way, but she's not very smart.
I'll give her that because I just what I just
said is because the Trump's going to prioritize public safety threats.
What mayor or governor doesn't want public safety threats out
of the communities. Man, that's a number one responsibilities to
protect your communities, and that's exactly what we're.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Going to do.

Speaker 10 (07:37):
So she helps us, she gets the hell out of
the way because they're going to do it. And look,
there's a clear line here, and they can't cross the
clear line. I'll suggest she read titled eight United States
Cold thirteen twenty four Trupply that says, you know, you
can't harbor, conceal any way in from front law enforce now,
so I hope.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
She don't cross that line.

Speaker 10 (07:54):
They cannot cooperate, but there are certain laws in place
that they can't cross, and I hope she doesn't cross it.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
I do too, But this is just like them cheating
on the election. They cheated in Harris County, cheated in Pennsylvania.
At some point they're challenging you. It's like the people
that go into Walgrange and steal the whole story. At
some point you're gonna have to confront. Did you maybe
autimbly laugh when I tell a joke like that so
I know you thought it was funny? Michael Berry?

Speaker 5 (08:22):
Oh no, I won't do that.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
It's too much for a moment. She won't go that time.
That was so funny. It's under the deadline from the
Wall Street Journal. Why Tesla supports eliminating the electric vehicle
tax credit. That's right. Elon Musk supports eliminating the seventy
five hundred dollars EV tax credit. Man of have known

(08:45):
that once President Elect Trump takes office in January, his
administration will move quickly to end the tax credit of
up to seventy five hundred dollars that made it cheaper
for Americans to buy electric vehicles, according to several media reports,
to make electric vehicles less competitive with gas powered cars,

(09:05):
which is the Trump administration's goal. The removal of the
incentive quote could derail the trajectory of EV sales in
the US. The head of insights for Edmunds dot Com,
Jessica Caldwell, wrote in a note last week, but here's
the important part. That trajectory was already on a downward

(09:26):
trend due to the high prices of evs and a
lack of charging infrastructure nationwide. An auto industry trade group,
the Alliance for Automotive Innovation, called on Congress prior to
the election to keep the tax credits around since they
are quote critical to cementing the US as a global

(09:50):
leader end quote in auto production. But that trade group
does not represent Tesla, the biggest EV seller in the
United States by a long shot. Take it from the CEO,
Tesla wants them to end. Following the initial Reuter's report
that Trump would move to eliminate the credits, Musk post

(10:12):
it on X quote in my view, we should end
all government subsidies, including for those for EV's oil and gas.
Why would that be. Tesla has a dominant position over
EV automakers in the US, and removing the credit would
further entrench that lead by hammering the competition. In a

(10:34):
July earnings call, Musk said the credit removal would be
devastating for Tesla's rivals, but would only hurt Tesla slightly.
Tesla sells its evs at a sizable profit, while competitors
like Ford and GM lose money on every EV they sell.
Making EV production less economical would dent Tesla's margins but

(10:58):
could force its legacy. The automaker Peers to stop churning
out EV models entirely, even with the tax credit in place,
Forward idle production of its f one to fifty Lightning
electric pickup through the end of the year looking ahead.
Because the tax credits are included in President Biden's Inflation
Reduction Act, which was really just a Green New Deal.

(11:20):
Trump can't remove them without an Act of Congress, but Republicans,
who will control both chambers next year, can get it
done without Democrat votes through a process known as reconciliation,
which is what Democrats used to pass the Green New
Deal in the first place. That was never meant to
be an Inflation Reduction Act. That was always meant to

(11:44):
be a Green New Deal, and that's exactly what it became.
So on the issue of the electric vehicle, I never
believed Americans would transition to an electric vehicle and just
didn't see it happen, and I'm more resolute on that
point now with much more data, much more extensive information

(12:07):
to draw on than I was before. That doesn't mean
that your buddy or my buddy, Chance McLean doesn't have
an electric vehicle. There are plenty of electric vible and
you see them out there. The American car makers got
into the electric vehicle business to accommodate congress and congressional dictates,

(12:30):
so you had, you had the forwards and the GMS
and all that. That has been an absolute and utter bust.
And I'll tell you why. Because the people who wanted
EV on the front end were people who wanted a
trendy hip, who car that other people didn't have. EV

(12:52):
car owners wanted to be people who had a vehicle
that their parents and their neighbors and their colleagues did
not have. That meant Tesla, and then eventually, to a
much lesser extent, it meant locid in, Pollstar and Rivian
and Fisk, and all of those businesses will be out
of business in a couple of years. I think Rivian

(13:14):
makes a beautiful SUV. I think Rivian's styling is the
best styling in the business. It's a very very attractive vehicle,
but they can't figure out how to make money. And
if you actually look at the numbers of every company
except for Tesla in the EV space, they're not only
losing money overall, they're losing money on every unit they sell.

(13:39):
They cannot produce the unit for what they sell it
to the consumer for, and their prices are insane. So
if they're selling a vehicle for ninety thousand dollars but
it costs them one hundred and fifteen, you might think, well,
they just need to sell more. No, they're still not
able to get there, so maybe increase the price. Price

(14:02):
is elastic, and they have reached the elasticity the number
of people who can afford an electric car, because you're
talking from almost all of them, you're talking ninety thousand
and up. The number of people who can afford that
is a very small slice of people. And now you're
competing with the range Rover, and I do think they've

(14:24):
cut into the range Rover, competing with the Cadillac Escalade,
you're competing with the loaded out suburban, which still has
a great brand, equity and desirability you're competing against. I
think they've probably taken a hit because of this Mercedes

(14:44):
and the BMW's there just aren't that many people able
to buy a car. And you know what's a good
looking vehicle is that? Is it a is it called
a land Rover? It's kind of boxy, you know what
I'm talking about? Well, yeah, the Defender. Chris Shaw's got
one of them. That's a good looking vehicle. Not the
little one, the longer one. That's a good looking I

(15:06):
rolled up on a car dealership because I saw a
buddy of mine pulling into it and I was gonna
pull in behind him. I thought, oh, I'm basically going
to look for a car. There was a beautiful Defender
parked out front, and I pulled up behind it and
he went in, and I walked in and I walked
around the car. It was absolutely gorgeous vehicle, walked around

(15:27):
the car, walked in and he was shaking hands with
the salesman and they were walking out. I said, he said, hey,
what are you doing here? I said, I saw you
pulling in. I thought I was over on old Hempstead.
I thought i'd follow you in. I said, I was
just looking at that Defender out there. Man, thing is
gorgeous says, that's what I'm here to pick up, and
he was that's what he was doing one final test driving,

(15:48):
and he was driving it out. So now you're talking
about a slice of the car buyer market that is
already the equivalent of fine dining. Right, You're already way
up there. Who's the only person making an electric car
that's below fifty thousand dollars Tesla. That's the problem. You've

(16:10):
got to be able to make a lot of these
cars at an affordable price, and those other guys just
can't do it. And Ford and GM, they all need
to quit. Michael Barry show a Burnham. There's no background check,
so if you there's no permit required, so regardless your background.

(16:32):
And I got a lot of listeners who are extreme
off the grid libertarians who do not want to go
through any governmental systems anymore than they possibly ever have to.
So they love the no background check, no permit required,
and it's legal in all fifty states and as a
less lethal self defense. I will tell you my brother

(16:53):
was a cop, as you know, my late brother, for
over thirty years, and he said, you know, there are
a lot of people who very blithely, very talk about
killing somebody who comes into their home. You do not
want to have to kill somebody. I would if I
had to, But the problems don't end, then the problems begins.
It's a difficult thing, and that's what I love about this.

(17:16):
I still own my traditional guns, but my Burna is
what I'm keeping beside me at all times as well,
because in most situations that is more than sufficient to
protect us. Well, it is Christmas time, and as we've
been talking about, unfortunately with all the merriment and the

(17:36):
fellowship and the joy, there is also an increasing crime.
It happens every year, and I have asked Luan fam
my friend he's been on the show before with burna
dot Com forward slash Michael, to be our guest, because
I had a couple of questions to start with, not
a Christmas related question. Luan. One of the things that

(17:57):
your folks are telling me is while y'all saw materials
from around the world and you hand a symbol the
guns in Fort Wayne as part of the Trump administration's
push to bring everything to the United States, y'all have
embraced that fully. Tell me about that. Hey, Michael, how
you doing brother?

Speaker 6 (18:15):
Thank you for having me on and Merry Christmas to
you and your listeners out there. And yes, you know,
with the landslide victory of President Trump, we want to
really support the policy of restoring all of our manufacturing.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Back to the United States.

Speaker 6 (18:32):
As you mentioned, we proudly are American company operate out
of Boston, and we want to short reshore everything just
because it's smart business. It rebuilds to rebuild America, and
it allows us to offset any challenges that a recurrence
of a pandemic might cause, you know, in the habit

(18:53):
from a global supply chain perspective. And you know, we
do proudly say that we are American and we want
to help with growing the economy. And recently there were
layoffs in Fort Wayne, Indiana, where our factory is from
an American auto manufacturer, and you know, we were humbly

(19:13):
grateful enough to be in the position to pick up
about twenty three of those people that were laid off.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
You know, it's interesting, because I talked a lot about
the vagaries of capitalism, is not every business service forever.
There will be businesses that will thrive, and there will
be businesses that die and new ones will take their place,
and that is part of it. But it is interesting
to see. I don't know what the market was before

(19:40):
Berna because I never owned a less lethal self defense
like this, But all of a sudden and I think
I saw the number, and I've been responsible for buying
a fair number of them myself. Over, did I see?
Was it five hundred thousand units y'all have sold?

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Now?

Speaker 6 (19:58):
Yes, sir, And you know, Michael, don't be so humble.
You were a big part of getting us getting the
word out there, and you know at being an advocate
for Berna and bringing this product or bringing the awareness
of this product to your listeners has been very helpful
for us, So we thank you for that. But yes,
five hundred thousand units was in like a five year timespan.

(20:20):
And the reality is that Americans, as you know, I'm
a gun owner too, and many of the folks that
Berna our gun owners. But we wanted a common sense
solution to the nuclear option, which is pulling out your
lethal firearm and taking a life. And you know, according
to the FBISE, those instances that require lethal forces only

(20:42):
one percent, So you know we have the one percent
covered as firearms practitioners. What about the other ninety nine
and folks.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Are waking up.

Speaker 6 (20:51):
And as I mentioned to you before, California's are the
biggest baid for customers, followed by Texas a very close second,
and third Florida. So you're talking about three states that
are polar opposite where Texas and Florida is. You know,
the whole legality and usage of a gun is much
more laxed than it.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Is in California. But all of these folks see.

Speaker 6 (21:13):
The same thing I pulled that I pulled my fire
had to shoot that round. I'm responsible for that bullet,
and that bullet has consequences. You know, God forbid you
hid an innocent bystandard.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
We had le We had a terrible case here where
a guy turned and shot. He some bad guys were
approaching him. He turned and shot and unfortunately missed, And
there was an innocent girl in a car behind the
turds who were coming up on him, and it killed her.

(21:44):
And he's he's being charged, I mean, he's being charged
in what could send him away for life. And this
was this guy was a crime victim, a prepared crime victim.
It's just that the choice he made and a lack
of accuracy. Wow, I mean, it's it's it's frighten me lewan.
I don't want to run out of time here before
I get to something that was important. I talked to

(22:06):
some of your folks about the sales at Christmas spiking
because I asked the question with crime going up at Christmas,
and apparently the sales go through the roof because I
guess people recognize obviously, I buy these things as gifts.
You know the story about ten of them before I
ever knew you folks. But is that what you're seeing

(22:28):
is that I guess obviously gift giving is going to
be a big part of that as well. But how
much of that is people afraid at Christmas? That, yes,
crime is up, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (22:37):
Definitely when the people are aware that during the Holida
seasons there's a huge spike in crime.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
And we were fortunate enough.

Speaker 6 (22:43):
To see that thought or that philosophy transfer to our
holiday sales numbers. We had a record day and Black Friday,
selling over a million dollars that day, and then followed
by a much bigger Cyber Monday, and collectively between those
two that weekend we did two point four million dollars

(23:04):
in sales, and that you know, over one hundred percent growth,
you over your growth. On top of that, what it's
saying is that our customers, Americans out there, want to
give the gifts of peace of mind right and so
they feel better. Their daughter in college had a burner there,
you know, their mom that lives alone has a burner.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
So we're seeing that.

Speaker 6 (23:26):
Because they're they're aware where they're giving berne as gifts
with intentions so that he could sleep better at night.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Well, I came to know you and your team because
my friend Jimmy Fullen, who is the incoming sheriff of
Galveston County just south of Houston, was training down on
the border of Mexico and defending Texas on his own
time to protect the state and did training on the

(23:55):
burn of guns and is a big believer in supplementing
traditional firearms with the less lethal burner. And I guess
he brought y'all, brought me to y'all's attention and said
that did you realize there's this guy down in Houston
who's buying up your your guns and sending them out
because I'd rather use this projectile than a bullet, if

(24:16):
at all possible, And I will tell you it is.
It's one of those deals where the marketplace needed it,
and now the marketplace has it, and we're seeing law
enforcement use it. We're seeing religious institutions buying them in bolt,
and we're seeing a lot of our listeners. I know
because I hear from your folks. I think it's a wonderful,

(24:36):
wonderful product and it will make a great Christmas gift.
And you've got cyber Mondays and Black Fridays and all
sorts of other things going on. It's Burner by r
Inna dot com forward slash Michael Lwan, Thank you.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
My friend, Thank you Christmas.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
You got the Michael Berry's show. All right. Nine presidents
never graduate. He went in from college, the last one
and the only one of the twentieth century. Can you
guess it was? You can guess think of the most
common president by which I mean breeding schooling. He was

(25:19):
a clerk. In fact, he was a very very corrupt
clerk in Missouri who I think was a Pendergast family
who ran a machine there and he was the cog
in the wheel that made it happen. Harry S. Truman
S stands for nothing. Yeah, it's like in the word T,

(25:41):
like iced T, the E and the a are silent,
same thing as no middle name. So you're nine presidents
who never graduated from college in George Washington, Andrew Jackson,
Martin Van Buren, Zachary Taylor, Millard Fillmore, Abraham Lincoln you

(26:10):
could practice law without a college degree at the time,
Andrew Johnson, the accidental president when Lincoln was assassinated, and
last but not least, Grover Cleveland, and then, of course
Harry S. Truman. All Right, very quickly, Ramond, to make
a point, there are a handful of first ladies in

(26:32):
American history that are extremely well known, and the rest
are not partially known. I don't know much about him.
You either know the first lady and something about her,
or you don't know her name at all. I look
this up this weekend, so I'm kind of interested to share,
like a little nerd. All Right, so here we go.
I'll give you the president, and very quickly, you spout

(26:54):
the first lady's name. Are you ready? We'll go in order.
George Washington, Martha Washington, correct, John Adams, Abigail Adams is correct,
Thomas Jefferson, aren't thank You wouldn't know James Madison, Dolly Madison.

(27:15):
That's correct. James Monroe, Elizabeth. You wouldn't know that, John
Quincy Adams, Louisa. You wouldn't know Andrew Jackson. A lot
of people know this one because they were married, well,
they were both separately married, and it became a huge
scandal and they smeared him with that. Rachel Emily Jackson. Oh,

(27:44):
you're just guessing old names. Martin van Buren Hannah. But
her full name, just so you know, was Hannah Hoose
h o Ees, Hannah Hoose van Buren. Those Hose girls,
you know, that's what they were known as. Henry Harrison,
Anna Tutthill, Sims Harrison, John Tyler, Letitia James K. Polk,

(28:11):
Sarah Zachary Taylor, Margaret Millard Fillmore, another Abigail Franklin, Pierce,
Jane James Buchanan never married. You know what that means
if you're president from eighteen fifty seven eighteen sixty one
and you never married. Abraham Lincoln, Mary Todd Lincoln is correct.

(28:37):
Andrew Johnson, Elizah, you wouldn't know that. Ulysses S. Grant,
Julia Rutherford b. Hayes. Be's Burchard by the way, Lucretia,
Oh no, sorry, not Lucretia Lucy Lucy. James Garfield's been
shot down. His widow was Lucretia. His successor Chester, Arthur Ellen,

(29:03):
Grover Cleveland, Francis Benjamin Harrison, Caroline Grover Cleveland like old name,
Francis William McKinley, Ida. Don't name women Ida anymore? Teddy Roosevelt.
Do you know Teddy Roosevelt's West name? Edith Kermit Caro Roosevelt,

(29:25):
William H. Have Helen Woodrow Wilson Ellen, not Helen Ellen.
Calvin Coolidge, what a perfect name for his wife, Grace,
because he was a Methodist ministry Grace good Hugh Coolidge,

(29:48):
Did that sound like a minister's wife, Grace? It's only
an English novel. Herbert Hoover. His wife's name was Lou Hellou.
Franklin D. Roosevelt. See there's one of those. You know
The wife's name Eleanor is correct. Harry S. Truman. I
think not as many, but a lot of people will
know Harry Truman's wife's name, Bess b e Ss. Dwight D.

(30:13):
Eisenhower from here people will know. I think most Maybe
you know what state Dwight Eisenowder was born in. John F. Kennedy,
The lovely Jacqulyn Bouvier Kennedy and then she goes and
ruin it by Marionnette Lyndon B. Johnson, particularly known in Texas.

(30:37):
What a great cause. Flowers on the Highway that might
seem silly, but that's lasting to this day and I
love it, by the way. Lady Birdy, Dick Nixon, Pat
Gerald Ford, Betty famous for Jimmy Carter, rosalind Ronald Reagan,

(30:58):
of course, Nancy Barbara Bush, Oh sorry, George Bush. Barbara
Bush most noted for what was her cause? Literacy? Bill Clinton,
Oh that tastes in my mouth. George W. Bush, Laura Bush,
Barack Obama, Michelle Obama, Donald J. Trump, the most Beautiful,
the First Dage of Millennia. And Joe Biden, Doctor Joe Biden,