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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time, time, time, Luck and load. The
Michael Verie Show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
This is.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
But chief also checks another box when it comes to
inclusivity and diversity and this department. She's a proud member
of the LGBTQ community.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
That just kind of opens the door of people that thought, Oh,
I didn't even know that that was an opportunity for me.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
This is ain't nobody got timpany.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I'm super inspired.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
She took time out of her already busy schedule to
tell us about her vision for the department's future, one
that includes a three year strategic plan to increase diversity.
Speaker 6 (00:55):
People ask me, what number are you looking for us.
Speaker 7 (00:58):
I'm not looking for a number.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
It's never an Out of thirty three hundred city firefighters,
only one hundred and fifteen are women. Right now, She's
already looking at ways to change that. She's quick to
point out that doing so has a greater purpose attracting
the best and brightest for the job.
Speaker 7 (01:13):
They feel included, they feel valued, and they feel part
of a cohesa tea.
Speaker 8 (01:17):
You might have recall a new story from last year.
There was some interest in the fire departments and the
firefighters in California, and the interest was whether there were
too many white men who were firefighters, and we need
to have a program in California to make sure we
don't have enough white men as firefighters.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
They said, we have no water. I said, do you
have a drought? No, we don't have a drought. I said,
why did he have no water? Because the water isn't
allowed to flow down. It's got a natural flow from
Canada all the way up, no support more water than
they could have a use. And in order to protect
a tiny little fish, the water up north gets routed
(02:10):
into the Pacific Ocean. Millions and millions of gallons of
water gets poured. I could have water for all of
that land, water for your forests. You know your forests
are dry as a bone. Okay, dangerous that water could
be routed. You know, you could have everything.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
What is the situation with water? Obviously in the pal
sage ran at last night and the hydrants I was farted.
Speaker 9 (02:47):
The firefighter in this block they laught because there were
no water in the hydrants here.
Speaker 10 (02:51):
The local folks are going to figure that.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Out, do you go?
Speaker 11 (02:55):
Citizens and apology for being absent while their homes were burning.
Great cutting the fire department budget by millions of dollars.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Not in there.
Speaker 11 (03:05):
Have you nothing to say today? Elon Mosque says that
you're utterly incompetent. Are you considering your position, father mayor
have you absolutely nothing to say to the citizens today
if you're dealing with this disaster?
Speaker 12 (03:33):
Who chose that song? Because watching the footage over the
last couple of days, there is a hellish feel to
what is happening. I have experienced horrible flooding growing up
in Southeast Texas and now having moved two hours west
to Houston, which I call home, Louisiana, Southeast Texas, Mississippi, Imma,
(04:00):
Florida particularly, have witnessed horrible flooding all along the Gulf
of America all along. I've never experienced fire, certainly nothing
like this.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
In this way.
Speaker 12 (04:17):
You know, natural disasters like this they take such a
psychological toll, especially on children and the elderly, and I've
seen it. It stays with people for years and years,
and it rocks you to your very foundation. Because a
(04:38):
house is stable and solid, it it can't just be
reduced to rubble. But of course they can. And people
of faith understand that when the Bible says, build your
home upon a rock, build your build your build your
(04:59):
respite upon a rock that is not a physical structure,
that that is being tethered to something meaningful, your faith.
And I see what's happening in Los Angeles, and it
is a combination of sadness but also anger because natural
(05:21):
disasters that are the result of nature we have to
live with with, to contend with, we have to react to.
But the preparation and reaction are man made. And what
I'm watching is absolute and utter failure. And that's what
(05:41):
we're going.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
To talk about today. Let's go back to April of
twenty twenty one.
Speaker 12 (05:45):
Donald Trump was out. Joe Biden had stolen the election.
He was president of the United States California's governor. By
the way, if you're wondering if I'm going to talk
about Jimmy Carter, No, I told you yesterday. I think
he's an awful He was an awful person, and I
have nothing nice to say about him, so I'm not
(06:07):
you know, the whole National Day of Mourning, Joe Biden
shut down to the America's economy today for a National
Day of morning. That's a hallmark holiday. It's not a
real holiday. It's not a National Day of Morning. Jimmy
Carter was not a good guy. I'm I'm not going anymore,
just so you know, I'm going to talk about the
wildfires this entire show, except for one segment of a
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community in Texas Galveston where the sheriff is cracking down
on these freak off weekends where the community is under
attack by outsiders coming in. You see this all over
the country, and everything else is going to be wildfires today.
Because this is why we get involved in elections. Not
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so that my team can win and your team can win,
not so that somebody we know can get a job
or a contract, but so that problems will be solved,
people will be protected, opportunity will be insured. California's governor
in April twenty one, Joe Biden's a new president, Gavin
newsomone to be president after him. He was happy to
(07:15):
explain how California's wildlife preparedness was going to be so
much better now that Joe Biden was in the White House.
This poortended bad things.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
Give this a listen.
Speaker 13 (07:28):
That's what's different now is we are committed as a team,
as a partnership with the legislature and other state agencies,
including now the federal government no longer a sparring partner,
but a working partner federal government where we're not addressing
headwinds but tailwinds. In terms of the support a memoran
of understanding, doubling our respective commitments to vegetation management and
(07:51):
forest management and prescribed burns to support the Biden administration
with resources, not just rhetoric, to help this collective cause.
It's a different paradigm, it's a different framework.
Speaker 12 (08:05):
Yeah, you can say that again. You can say that again.
Governor good Hair Gavin Newsom, who would like to be president,
telling America California is going.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
To be more prepared for wildfires than ever. And well, Michael.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Berry The Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 12 (08:29):
Gary Hoffman, superstar host co host of The Gary and
Shannon Show, which airs in Los Angeles, is our guest
with a local perspective. Gary makes some sense of what
we're watching. I mean, we can watch the footage, we
can wring our hands and gash our teeth. We all
(08:52):
understand broken big city government. Bring some sanity to this
for me, please.
Speaker 9 (09:00):
Well, I wish, I wish I could. I mean, in
terms of the science, the climate science that went into
all of this. This was just a really bad combination
of things that happen in southern California on a regular basis.
We've had drought here in California pretty significantly over the
course of the last ten years, but the last two
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years in twenty three and twenty four, we've had significant rainfall,
higher than average rainfall. So the way that works is
the grasses that grow in the hillside here in California
grow robustly in the spring and summertime, and then we
don't have any rain. And I'm not exaggerating. We've had
sixteen hundreds of an inch of rain in Los Angeles
(09:47):
since May, when we usually would have about five or
six inches by this point. So not only did those
new grasses dry out, cure get ready to burn, we've
had a pretty warm beginning to our winter, so that
all is the fuel that's ready to burn. And then
the wind event that we saw that came through starting
(10:07):
on Tuesday, with gusts as high as eighty to one
hundred miles an hour in some areas. The combination was awful.
Now at this point, it's not wind that starts fires,
it's not the fuel that starts fires. We don't know
what exactly started these fires. It could have been somebody
carelessly burning in their backyard. It could be power lines
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that were knocked over by the high winds. I mean,
all of those things are things that have happened before.
But the combination of that, the timing of that, of
those factors, and then the location of it. The Pacific
Palisades fire is. I know, it's punctuated by a bunch
of celebrity names that people will recognize, but there are
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thousands and thousands of people. For every one celebrity that
you see whose house burned down or was threatened, there
are thousands of people whose names you don't recognize who
have lost everything in these fires. And it goes beyond
the wild land aspect of the grasses. It goes to
the absolute power and force of fire that is blown
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like a torch from one house to the next, and
then embers from trees or other things that burn that
get cast a mile two miles ahead of where the
burn is the active burn is, and starts new fires.
I mean, really, the only thing Tuesday night into Wednesday
morning that stopped the fire in the Pacific Palisades was
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the Pacific Ocean, because that was the direction the wind
was blowing.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
The other fire that popped up out.
Speaker 9 (11:43):
Near Pasadena and Altadena, of course, famous for the Rose
Bowl and the Rose Parade that everybody saw last week.
That fire also started in the hills, blown towards the city,
towards the flatlands by these incredible, these incredible winds, and
just begins jumping house to house. And when those fires
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burn as hot as they do, it's almost inevitable that
the fire will jump from house to house or building
to building, business to business. And it's just been I mean,
I've lived in California almost my entire life, and I've
been here in LA for more than twenty years, and
it's inadequate to say I've never seen anything like this.
(12:26):
It's it's more I don't know anybody who has seen
anything like this, regardless of where they've been fighting fires
or you know, taking care of natural disasters.
Speaker 12 (12:37):
Gary Hoffman is our guest co host of The Gary
and Shanna Show. For those of you in Los Angeles,
you know that because you hear them daily. Gary, how
much how much do you what's the takeaway? What's the
residual when all this is done? I was in Lehina
last weekend in Maui, and people are They're mad, They're
(13:02):
still mad, They're angry, and it's a directed, focused anger
at the people responsible. You know, you've had the PG
and E fires, and then Gavin Newsom we had Susan
Crabtree on a couple of days ago to talk about
that PG and E's you know, eighty four felony manslaughters
against that corporation. How much of this a year from now?
(13:26):
How directed will people be at their anger? Because I
can tell you in New Orleans after Katrina, the failures
at the at the levee board, for instance, to this day,
people are still angry about it. What's the shelf life
of this response?
Speaker 9 (13:45):
Gosh, that's a great question because I think like those instances,
there's a certain amount of One of the factors I
should say in those situations is going to be personal responsibility.
What if I'm going to buy a how in Pacific Palisades,
I'm paying for living the life of living on a
bluff looking at the Pacific Ocean every single day. But
(14:08):
I have to take into account the fact that I
back right up to one of the most flammable one
of the most fire prone areas in all of southern California.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
That aspect of.
Speaker 9 (14:19):
Personal responsibility I think is bigger here because of that.
If you're talking about whether it's Lahina or New Orleans
after Hurricane Katrina, there's an expectation that there would never
be I mean that fire on Maui is still shocking
to see what happened and how it happened. The levees
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breaking in New Orleans. I mean, that's a place where
that relies on levees. You never would expect there to
be something like that. This area of California burns all
the time. I mean, this is an annual event, a
fire like this. It's probably not the right way to
put it. This is an annual event fire in those locations.
(15:02):
It went well beyond what we had ever seen in
the past. As I referred to earlier. Now, the question
of what kind of you know, the residual anger that exists.
We're going to find out that there were failures. There's
always failures, We're human. There will be failures. But how
big was the failure? How long was the failure allowed
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to go unnoticed and unrepaired?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
And then who's going to pay the price? For it,
you know. I mean. One of the.
Speaker 9 (15:30):
Big criticisms in the last twenty four hours has been
that the Mayor of Los Angeles Pacific Palisades is technically
part of the City of Los Angeles. The Mayor of
Los Angeles was in Africa attending the inauguration of the
President of Ghana.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
She left on Saturday knowing.
Speaker 9 (15:49):
That the National Weather Service, the La County Fire Department,
LA City, and Fire Department CalFire had all been warning
about this very significant wind event, and they had developed
a term for that only been used a couple of times.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Gary, hold that thought up against the break. Gary hanged
right there, gry.
Speaker 12 (16:05):
Gary Hoffman is our guest. He is co host of
the Gary and Shanna Show in Los Angeles.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
Moore on these awful La fires.
Speaker 12 (16:13):
I'll bet you we've got ten thousand sweet little ladies
of seventy or more that would make a pound case
that you could eat cold and enjoy.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
And Michael Verry's show.
Speaker 12 (16:31):
Gary Hoffman is our guest Los Angelino's. The good folks
of Los Angeles know him as a co host of
the Gary and Shanna Show. Very successful talk show hosts
in Los Angeles with perspective on exactly what's happening with
these fires and how this failed response is leading to
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death and destruction in one of the great cities in
world history. Gary Hoffman, you were telling the story about
Karen Bass and I had to interrupt you, and there
was a phrase you were going to refer to. Can
you restart that conversation and take us up to that
for people that just tuned in.
Speaker 9 (17:12):
So sure, the mayor of Los Angeles is being criticized.
She was out of town when these fires started, literally
out of state, out of the country, despite the fact
that everybody else in the southern California area was being
warned about this particularly dangerous situation, which is an official
term that the National Weather Service to describe the low humidity,
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the high wind, the expectation that a simple red flag
fire warning wasn't going to be enough, that this was
a particularly dangerous event that we were looking at. This
was three days before the fire itself started. She still
went to Africa as part of a mission to attend
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the inauguration of the President of Ganna, the incoming president,
and she did not come back. Well, first of all,
she left, she did not come back when she first
learned of the fires and eventually made her way back
to Los Angeles yesterday about midday, and has been criticized
roundly for leaving in the first place, but then coming
(18:15):
back and talking about the strength and the will of
the people of Pacific Palisades or other parts of Los
Angeles that may have suffered from damage from these fires
as well, and not just saying I screwed up. I'm
never going to allow this to happen again. We will
do the top to bottom evaluation of what happened with
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fire hydrants losing pressure, with not having enough water available,
with not having enough cruise available either through La City
or La County Fire Department, with not pre positioning the
assets the way that we should have done, even though
we had all the warning in the world that there
was going to be potential catastrophe in the hills.
Speaker 12 (18:59):
You live there, you know better. Folks around the country
when they find out I'm from Houston, are often surprised
that we have a Democrat mayor, although we have kind
of a conservative Democrat. Now this is a new thing.
It could have been Sheila Jackson Lee who made an
ask for herself for the entire country. Probably no, she
barely lost and has since passed. But they're shocked to
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find out we have a Democrat mayor. And I say,
what's worse than that. We've never had a Republican mayor.
I ran and didn't win because I'm a Republican. But
we have a Harris County, which used to be a
solidly read county, has a Democrat county judge and she
did the exact same thing. She's gone on junkets when
major catastrophes are occurring, and the media doesn't want to
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take her to task, but eventually they kind of have to.
It's these people that get elected like Joe Biden to
play golf or sit on the beach, or to go
on these junkets. This is a real job, the rubber hit.
It's the road in municipal government. You know, the federal
government can go on break. What are you going to
miss your Social Security check? But when the local government,
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which is police and fire and roads and this goes down,
we've got a real problem. And that's what we're seeing
is a collapse of what has been historically a great city.
And that's frustrating as a fellow American to watch.
Speaker 9 (20:23):
Yeah, my co host Shannon put it well today, she said,
I expect four things from my city. I expect police, fire, roads,
and water, and that's it. I don't need special programs.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
They're nice.
Speaker 9 (20:37):
I don't need, you know, arts in the schools, they're nice.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
That's not what.
Speaker 9 (20:41):
That's not the four primary things you want from a
municipal government. Police, fire, roads, and water, and that's it.
And in each of those instances, when you look at
the context of what we're dealing with here in LA
for the last forty eight seventy two hours, specifically Karen Vass,
but other leaders have failed on each of those four points,
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and there's nothing left. I mean, there are people that
are definitely calling for her resignation. We've seen that before.
I don't think that's going to happen, but it is
one of those wake up calls. I'm hoping for people
to stop just anointing the same kind of candidate over
and over again, where they've paid their dues finger quotes,
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they've paid their dues by working on the county council
or in Karen Vass's case, she worked in the State Assembly.
She was the speaker of the State Assembly, she was
a member of Congress and sort of rising through the ranks.
Giving a politician the same job with a different title
is not working in the state of California. But it's
hard because people either vote for comfort or they vote
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based on feelings. They don't based on they don't vote
based on those four core things that need to be
provided to us by our government.
Speaker 12 (22:00):
Also worth noting she was on the short list to
be Joe Biden's vice president because she checks the three
boxes that he desperately wanted, which is black woman stupid.
I want to ask you a question. An anchor at
Fox eleven in Los Angeles tried to dismiss, Uh, there
are songs that are better than this song.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
I just can't think of what they are. There are
songs that are as good as this.
Speaker 12 (22:33):
Skinner's Got ten for instance, the band has stop here.
There's a few other musical acts over the years, including Elvis.
But this is as good a song as as there is.
And when he gets to the end and does the.
Speaker 11 (22:53):
Lot that that that that that.
Speaker 12 (22:56):
The scats, I guess they call it. Artists just can't
do that the way Black Guy's kids and they all
did it back there. It is Hey, we don't have
any we're out of lyrics here, and we got twenty
minutes in the studio.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
Have otis whistle. We'll get back to it later.
Speaker 12 (23:18):
Well, no, you won't, No, you won't, because he crashed
and that would become the signature of that song.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
Shot.
Speaker 12 (23:45):
I wanted to talk to Gary Hoffman of Gary and
Shannon's show on kf I, our sister station where they
anchor a show Los Angeles time Pacific UH time nine
in the morning till one pm, because they very engaged
with this issue of the wildfires, which is just.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
The whole nation is watching.
Speaker 12 (24:09):
And I have to tell you, those of you who
are longtime listeners to our show will know that I
typically do not talk about the news of the day,
especially if it's a fire or a flood, or I
leave that to the TVs or a school shooting. I
don't let what CNN is covering determine what I'm going
(24:30):
to talk about.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Or Fox News for that matter.
Speaker 12 (24:33):
But what we are witnessing right now is exhibit A
in why elections matter. And there is a great frustration
to me at election time that people will say to me, well,
I just don't know if I'm gon vote for all
so and so because I'm not sure if he likes
black people, or I'm not sure if he likes women,
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or I think we need more diversity and go an office,
or I'm a woman and she's a woman, so i
think I'll vote for her because she's a woman. This
is no basis upon which to choose the quarterback of
your football team, much less to choose who's going to
be in a position to make sure that when a
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fire breaks out, your city is prepared. Because when you
choose people for the wrong reasons their qualifications to get them,
there will be how they lead. So if the only
thing you've ever done to earn a four hundred thousand
dollars job as the diversity director for the fire department
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is bitch about the white firefighters, then what's going to
happen when the fire breaks out?
Speaker 6 (25:45):
Because you don't know you never fought a fire.
Speaker 12 (25:51):
My buddy Jesse Kelly said that it looks like Los
Angeles is staffing a softball team with all these fat
lesbians rather than leaders of a department to save lives.
And guess what, even if your goal was to screw
over the white people, who's getting.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Hurt by this?
Speaker 12 (26:13):
Who can least afford to have their home burned down.
The Palisades folks they got insurance and they'll just move
to Aspen. These folks, the poor, the working poor, these
people are going to suffer. You look at what happened
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in Lehina. Sure there are rich people on Maui. They
just hop islands, they just go somewhere else. But poor
people they can't recover. They may not have insurance. Is
that a bad decision maybe, but that's the reality. So
I want you to listen to Gavin Nusom back in
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twenty twenty one to catch you back up to speed.
I'm sorry I had to interrupt this, but here he
is explaining that wildfire preparedness will be better since we
got Trump out and we got Biden in. This was
right after Biden came into office.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
Listen to this.
Speaker 13 (27:09):
That's what's different now is we are committed as a team,
as a partnership with the legislature and other state agencies,
including now the federal government. No longer a sparring partner,
but a working partner federal government, where we're not addressing
headwinds but tailwinds in terms of the support. A memoranda
of understanding, doubling our respective commitments to vegetation management and
(27:33):
forest management and prescribed burns to support the Biden administration
with resources, not just rhetoric, to help this collective cause
it's a different paradigm, it's a different framework.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Okay, Well, the proofs in the pudding.
Speaker 12 (27:51):
Speaking of putting ahead, Joe Biden flew into California to
review the situation. You know, he thought he'd take it,
you know, because he house burned down, or so he says,
it didn't there was a little kitchen fire, but he
loves to say that. And upon reviewing, he announced that
his takeaway was, you know, I'm a great grandfather today.
(28:11):
Oh well, well that's that's what you take away from
touring all the devastation.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
We got the kids news, he still standing.
Speaker 12 (28:27):
The good news is I'm a great grandfathers the dead.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Girl boy, so.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Take a long recess.
Speaker 12 (28:45):
Of course, he didn't claim the little girl born to
the stripper in Arkansas that uh Hunter impregnated and denied
paternity until it was he was forced by the courts
to prove it.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Uh.
Speaker 12 (28:58):
He didn't claim that child because well, yeah, yeah, so
he's going.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
To be a great grandfather. He not even a good grandfather.
Speaker 12 (29:12):
Just asked the granddaughter in Arkansas that he refuses to
even acknowledge.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
How would you like that your your grandfather is the.
Speaker 12 (29:19):
President of the United States and he denies you or
his grandchild even after the tests were taken.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
And prove it.
Speaker 12 (29:28):
You remember when Joe Rogan, when Donald Trump was on
the Joe Rogan podcast a few months ago. Kind of
interesting that it veered into this. President Trump explained why
California continues to have wildfires, and boy does he nail this.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
Listen carefully.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
They said, we have no water. I said, do you
have a drought? No, we don't have a drought. I said,
what did he have no water? Because the water isn't
allowed to flow down? It's got a natural flow from
Canada all the way up north of the more water
than they could have he use, and in order to
protect a tiny little fish, the water up north gets
(30:06):
routed into the Pacific Ocean. Millions and millions of gallons
of water gets poured. I could have water for all
of that land, water for your forests. You know your
forests are dry as a bone. Okay, dangerous. That water
could be routed. You know, you could have everything, not
only dangerous. Billions of dollars a year they spend on
forests farret and you know, there's a case with the environment.
(30:29):
They're not allowed to rake their forests because you're not
allowed to touch it. And all they have to do is
clean their forest, meaning break it up, get rid of
the leaves, get rid of you know, leaves that are
sitting there for five years, and they'll certainly get rid
of the dead fall and get rid of the trees
that are falling in them.
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Speaker 7 (34:07):
Well is to look in pretty rough on your iten
Katie Freeway drive trying to get out toward Park ten.
They did clear off that accident, but you're looking at
about a forty minute delay still from a bunker hill
as things slowly start to recover there.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
They did also
It's that time time, time, time, Luck and load. The
Michael Verie Show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
This is.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
But chief also checks another box when it comes to
inclusivity and diversity and this department. She's a proud member
of the LGBTQ community.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
That just kind of opens the door of people that thought, Oh,
I didn't even know that that was an opportunity for me.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
This is ain't nobody got timpany.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I'm super inspired.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
She took time out of her already busy schedule to
tell us about her vision for the department's future, one
that includes a three year strategic plan to increase diversity.
Speaker 6 (00:55):
People ask me, what number are you looking for us.
Speaker 7 (00:58):
I'm not looking for a number.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
It's never an Out of thirty three hundred city firefighters,
only one hundred and fifteen are women. Right now, She's
already looking at ways to change that. She's quick to
point out that doing so has a greater purpose attracting
the best and brightest for the job.
Speaker 7 (01:13):
They feel included, they feel valued, and they feel part
of a cohesa tea.
Speaker 8 (01:17):
You might have recall a new story from last year.
There was some interest in the fire departments and the
firefighters in California, and the interest was whether there were
too many white men who were firefighters, and we need
to have a program in California to make sure we
don't have enough white men as firefighters.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
They said, we have no water. I said, do you
have a drought? No, we don't have a drought. I said,
why did he have no water? Because the water isn't
allowed to flow down. It's got a natural flow from
Canada all the way up, no support more water than
they could have a use. And in order to protect
a tiny little fish, the water up north gets routed
(02:10):
into the Pacific Ocean. Millions and millions of gallons of
water gets poured. I could have water for all of
that land, water for your forests. You know your forests
are dry as a bone. Okay, dangerous that water could
be routed. You know, you could have everything.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
What is the situation with water? Obviously in the pal
sage ran at last night and the hydrants I was farted.
Speaker 9 (02:47):
The firefighter in this block they laught because there were
no water in the hydrants here.
Speaker 10 (02:51):
The local folks are going to figure that.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Out, do you go?
Speaker 11 (02:55):
Citizens and apology for being absent while their homes were burning.
Great cutting the fire department budget by millions of dollars.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Not in there.
Speaker 11 (03:05):
Have you nothing to say today? Elon Mosque says that
you're utterly incompetent. Are you considering your position, father mayor
have you absolutely nothing to say to the citizens today
if you're dealing with this disaster?
Speaker 12 (03:33):
Who chose that song? Because watching the footage over the
last couple of days, there is a hellish feel to
what is happening. I have experienced horrible flooding growing up
in Southeast Texas and now having moved two hours west
to Houston, which I call home, Louisiana, Southeast Texas, Mississippi, Imma,
(04:00):
Florida particularly, have witnessed horrible flooding all along the Gulf
of America all along. I've never experienced fire, certainly nothing
like this.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
In this way.
Speaker 12 (04:17):
You know, natural disasters like this they take such a
psychological toll, especially on children and the elderly, and I've
seen it. It stays with people for years and years,
and it rocks you to your very foundation. Because a
(04:38):
house is stable and solid, it it can't just be
reduced to rubble. But of course they can. And people
of faith understand that when the Bible says, build your
home upon a rock, build your build your build your
(04:59):
respite upon a rock that is not a physical structure,
that that is being tethered to something meaningful, your faith.
And I see what's happening in Los Angeles, and it
is a combination of sadness but also anger because natural
(05:21):
disasters that are the result of nature we have to
live with with, to contend with, we have to react to.
But the preparation and reaction are man made. And what
I'm watching is absolute and utter failure. And that's what
(05:41):
we're going.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
To talk about today. Let's go back to April of
twenty twenty one.
Speaker 12 (05:45):
Donald Trump was out. Joe Biden had stolen the election.
He was president of the United States California's governor. By
the way, if you're wondering if I'm going to talk
about Jimmy Carter, No, I told you yesterday. I think
he's an awful He was an awful person, and I
have nothing nice to say about him, so I'm not
(06:07):
you know, the whole National Day of Mourning, Joe Biden
shut down to the America's economy today for a National
Day of morning. That's a hallmark holiday. It's not a
real holiday. It's not a National Day of Morning. Jimmy
Carter was not a good guy. I'm I'm not going anymore,
just so you know, I'm going to talk about the
wildfires this entire show, except for one segment of a
(06:31):
community in Texas Galveston where the sheriff is cracking down
on these freak off weekends where the community is under
attack by outsiders coming in. You see this all over
the country, and everything else is going to be wildfires today.
Because this is why we get involved in elections. Not
(06:53):
so that my team can win and your team can win,
not so that somebody we know can get a job
or a contract, but so that problems will be solved,
people will be protected, opportunity will be insured. California's governor
in April twenty one, Joe Biden's a new president, Gavin
newsomone to be president after him. He was happy to
(07:15):
explain how California's wildlife preparedness was going to be so
much better now that Joe Biden was in the White House.
This poortended bad things.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
Give this a listen.
Speaker 13 (07:28):
That's what's different now is we are committed as a team,
as a partnership with the legislature and other state agencies,
including now the federal government no longer a sparring partner,
but a working partner federal government where we're not addressing
headwinds but tailwinds. In terms of the support a memoran
of understanding, doubling our respective commitments to vegetation management and
(07:51):
forest management and prescribed burns to support the Biden administration
with resources, not just rhetoric, to help this collective cause.
It's a different paradigm, it's a different framework.
Speaker 12 (08:05):
Yeah, you can say that again. You can say that again.
Governor good Hair Gavin Newsom, who would like to be president,
telling America California is going.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
To be more prepared for wildfires than ever. And well, Michael.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Berry The Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 12 (08:29):
Gary Hoffman, superstar host co host of The Gary and
Shannon Show, which airs in Los Angeles, is our guest
with a local perspective. Gary makes some sense of what
we're watching. I mean, we can watch the footage, we
can wring our hands and gash our teeth. We all
(08:52):
understand broken big city government. Bring some sanity to this
for me, please.
Speaker 9 (09:00):
Well, I wish, I wish I could. I mean, in
terms of the science, the climate science that went into
all of this. This was just a really bad combination
of things that happen in southern California on a regular basis.
We've had drought here in California pretty significantly over the
course of the last ten years, but the last two
(09:23):
years in twenty three and twenty four, we've had significant rainfall,
higher than average rainfall. So the way that works is
the grasses that grow in the hillside here in California
grow robustly in the spring and summertime, and then we
don't have any rain. And I'm not exaggerating. We've had
sixteen hundreds of an inch of rain in Los Angeles
(09:47):
since May, when we usually would have about five or
six inches by this point. So not only did those
new grasses dry out, cure get ready to burn, we've
had a pretty warm beginning to our winter, so that
all is the fuel that's ready to burn. And then
the wind event that we saw that came through starting
(10:07):
on Tuesday, with gusts as high as eighty to one
hundred miles an hour in some areas. The combination was awful.
Now at this point, it's not wind that starts fires,
it's not the fuel that starts fires. We don't know
what exactly started these fires. It could have been somebody
carelessly burning in their backyard. It could be power lines
(10:28):
that were knocked over by the high winds. I mean,
all of those things are things that have happened before.
But the combination of that, the timing of that, of
those factors, and then the location of it. The Pacific
Palisades fire is. I know, it's punctuated by a bunch
of celebrity names that people will recognize, but there are
(10:50):
thousands and thousands of people. For every one celebrity that
you see whose house burned down or was threatened, there
are thousands of people whose names you don't recognize who
have lost everything in these fires. And it goes beyond
the wild land aspect of the grasses. It goes to
the absolute power and force of fire that is blown
(11:15):
like a torch from one house to the next, and
then embers from trees or other things that burn that
get cast a mile two miles ahead of where the
burn is the active burn is, and starts new fires.
I mean, really, the only thing Tuesday night into Wednesday
morning that stopped the fire in the Pacific Palisades was
(11:37):
the Pacific Ocean, because that was the direction the wind
was blowing.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
The other fire that popped up out.
Speaker 9 (11:43):
Near Pasadena and Altadena, of course, famous for the Rose
Bowl and the Rose Parade that everybody saw last week.
That fire also started in the hills, blown towards the city,
towards the flatlands by these incredible, these incredible winds, and
just begins jumping house to house. And when those fires
(12:05):
burn as hot as they do, it's almost inevitable that
the fire will jump from house to house or building
to building, business to business. And it's just been I mean,
I've lived in California almost my entire life, and I've
been here in LA for more than twenty years, and
it's inadequate to say I've never seen anything like this.
(12:26):
It's it's more I don't know anybody who has seen
anything like this, regardless of where they've been fighting fires
or you know, taking care of natural disasters.
Speaker 12 (12:37):
Gary Hoffman is our guest co host of The Gary
and Shanna Show. For those of you in Los Angeles,
you know that because you hear them daily. Gary, how
much how much do you what's the takeaway? What's the
residual when all this is done? I was in Lehina
last weekend in Maui, and people are They're mad, They're
(13:02):
still mad, They're angry, and it's a directed, focused anger
at the people responsible. You know, you've had the PG
and E fires, and then Gavin Newsom we had Susan
Crabtree on a couple of days ago to talk about
that PG and E's you know, eighty four felony manslaughters
against that corporation. How much of this a year from now?
(13:26):
How directed will people be at their anger? Because I
can tell you in New Orleans after Katrina, the failures
at the at the levee board, for instance, to this day,
people are still angry about it. What's the shelf life
of this response?
Speaker 9 (13:45):
Gosh, that's a great question because I think like those instances,
there's a certain amount of One of the factors I
should say in those situations is going to be personal responsibility.
What if I'm going to buy a how in Pacific Palisades,
I'm paying for living the life of living on a
bluff looking at the Pacific Ocean every single day. But
(14:08):
I have to take into account the fact that I
back right up to one of the most flammable one
of the most fire prone areas in all of southern California.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
That aspect of.
Speaker 9 (14:19):
Personal responsibility I think is bigger here because of that.
If you're talking about whether it's Lahina or New Orleans
after Hurricane Katrina, there's an expectation that there would never
be I mean that fire on Maui is still shocking
to see what happened and how it happened. The levees
(14:40):
breaking in New Orleans. I mean, that's a place where
that relies on levees. You never would expect there to
be something like that. This area of California burns all
the time. I mean, this is an annual event, a
fire like this. It's probably not the right way to
put it. This is an annual event fire in those locations.
(15:02):
It went well beyond what we had ever seen in
the past. As I referred to earlier. Now, the question
of what kind of you know, the residual anger that exists.
We're going to find out that there were failures. There's
always failures, We're human. There will be failures. But how
big was the failure? How long was the failure allowed
(15:22):
to go unnoticed and unrepaired?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
And then who's going to pay the price? For it,
you know. I mean. One of the.
Speaker 9 (15:30):
Big criticisms in the last twenty four hours has been
that the Mayor of Los Angeles Pacific Palisades is technically
part of the City of Los Angeles. The Mayor of
Los Angeles was in Africa attending the inauguration of the
President of Ghana.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
She left on Saturday knowing.
Speaker 9 (15:49):
That the National Weather Service, the La County Fire Department,
LA City, and Fire Department CalFire had all been warning
about this very significant wind event, and they had developed
a term for that only been used a couple of times.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Gary, hold that thought up against the break. Gary hanged
right there, gry.
Speaker 12 (16:05):
Gary Hoffman is our guest. He is co host of
the Gary and Shanna Show in Los Angeles.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
Moore on these awful La fires.
Speaker 12 (16:13):
I'll bet you we've got ten thousand sweet little ladies
of seventy or more that would make a pound case
that you could eat cold and enjoy.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
And Michael Verry's show.
Speaker 12 (16:31):
Gary Hoffman is our guest Los Angelino's. The good folks
of Los Angeles know him as a co host of
the Gary and Shanna Show. Very successful talk show hosts
in Los Angeles with perspective on exactly what's happening with
these fires and how this failed response is leading to
(16:55):
death and destruction in one of the great cities in
world history. Gary Hoffman, you were telling the story about
Karen Bass and I had to interrupt you, and there
was a phrase you were going to refer to. Can
you restart that conversation and take us up to that
for people that just tuned in.
Speaker 9 (17:12):
So sure, the mayor of Los Angeles is being criticized.
She was out of town when these fires started, literally
out of state, out of the country, despite the fact
that everybody else in the southern California area was being
warned about this particularly dangerous situation, which is an official
term that the National Weather Service to describe the low humidity,
(17:35):
the high wind, the expectation that a simple red flag
fire warning wasn't going to be enough, that this was
a particularly dangerous event that we were looking at. This
was three days before the fire itself started. She still
went to Africa as part of a mission to attend
(17:55):
the inauguration of the President of Ganna, the incoming president,
and she did not come back. Well, first of all,
she left, she did not come back when she first
learned of the fires and eventually made her way back
to Los Angeles yesterday about midday, and has been criticized
roundly for leaving in the first place, but then coming
(18:15):
back and talking about the strength and the will of
the people of Pacific Palisades or other parts of Los
Angeles that may have suffered from damage from these fires
as well, and not just saying I screwed up. I'm
never going to allow this to happen again. We will
do the top to bottom evaluation of what happened with
(18:38):
fire hydrants losing pressure, with not having enough water available,
with not having enough cruise available either through La City
or La County Fire Department, with not pre positioning the
assets the way that we should have done, even though
we had all the warning in the world that there
was going to be potential catastrophe in the hills.
Speaker 12 (18:59):
You live there, you know better. Folks around the country
when they find out I'm from Houston, are often surprised
that we have a Democrat mayor, although we have kind
of a conservative Democrat. Now this is a new thing.
It could have been Sheila Jackson Lee who made an
ask for herself for the entire country. Probably no, she
barely lost and has since passed. But they're shocked to
(19:23):
find out we have a Democrat mayor. And I say,
what's worse than that. We've never had a Republican mayor.
I ran and didn't win because I'm a Republican. But
we have a Harris County, which used to be a
solidly read county, has a Democrat county judge and she
did the exact same thing. She's gone on junkets when
major catastrophes are occurring, and the media doesn't want to
(19:46):
take her to task, but eventually they kind of have to.
It's these people that get elected like Joe Biden to
play golf or sit on the beach, or to go
on these junkets. This is a real job, the rubber hit.
It's the road in municipal government. You know, the federal
government can go on break. What are you going to
miss your Social Security check? But when the local government,
(20:09):
which is police and fire and roads and this goes down,
we've got a real problem. And that's what we're seeing
is a collapse of what has been historically a great city.
And that's frustrating as a fellow American to watch.
Speaker 9 (20:23):
Yeah, my co host Shannon put it well today, she said,
I expect four things from my city. I expect police, fire, roads,
and water, and that's it. I don't need special programs.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
They're nice.
Speaker 9 (20:37):
I don't need, you know, arts in the schools, they're nice.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
That's not what.
Speaker 9 (20:41):
That's not the four primary things you want from a
municipal government. Police, fire, roads, and water, and that's it.
And in each of those instances, when you look at
the context of what we're dealing with here in LA
for the last forty eight seventy two hours, specifically Karen Vass,
but other leaders have failed on each of those four points,
(21:06):
and there's nothing left. I mean, there are people that
are definitely calling for her resignation. We've seen that before.
I don't think that's going to happen, but it is
one of those wake up calls. I'm hoping for people
to stop just anointing the same kind of candidate over
and over again, where they've paid their dues finger quotes,
(21:27):
they've paid their dues by working on the county council
or in Karen Vass's case, she worked in the State Assembly.
She was the speaker of the State Assembly, she was
a member of Congress and sort of rising through the ranks.
Giving a politician the same job with a different title
is not working in the state of California. But it's
hard because people either vote for comfort or they vote
(21:51):
based on feelings. They don't based on they don't vote
based on those four core things that need to be
provided to us by our government.
Speaker 12 (22:00):
Also worth noting she was on the short list to
be Joe Biden's vice president because she checks the three
boxes that he desperately wanted, which is black woman stupid.
I want to ask you a question. An anchor at
Fox eleven in Los Angeles tried to dismiss, Uh, there
are songs that are better than this song.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
I just can't think of what they are. There are
songs that are as good as this.
Speaker 12 (22:33):
Skinner's Got ten for instance, the band has stop here.
There's a few other musical acts over the years, including Elvis.
But this is as good a song as as there is.
And when he gets to the end and does the.
Speaker 11 (22:53):
Lot that that that that that.
Speaker 12 (22:56):
The scats, I guess they call it. Artists just can't
do that the way Black Guy's kids and they all
did it back there. It is Hey, we don't have
any we're out of lyrics here, and we got twenty
minutes in the studio.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
Have otis whistle. We'll get back to it later.
Speaker 12 (23:18):
Well, no, you won't, No, you won't, because he crashed
and that would become the signature of that song.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
Shot.
Speaker 12 (23:45):
I wanted to talk to Gary Hoffman of Gary and
Shannon's show on kf I, our sister station where they
anchor a show Los Angeles time Pacific UH time nine
in the morning till one pm, because they very engaged
with this issue of the wildfires, which is just.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
The whole nation is watching.
Speaker 12 (24:09):
And I have to tell you, those of you who
are longtime listeners to our show will know that I
typically do not talk about the news of the day,
especially if it's a fire or a flood, or I
leave that to the TVs or a school shooting. I
don't let what CNN is covering determine what I'm going
(24:30):
to talk about.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Or Fox News for that matter.
Speaker 12 (24:33):
But what we are witnessing right now is exhibit A
in why elections matter. And there is a great frustration
to me at election time that people will say to me, well,
I just don't know if I'm gon vote for all
so and so because I'm not sure if he likes
black people, or I'm not sure if he likes women,
(24:57):
or I think we need more diversity and go an office,
or I'm a woman and she's a woman, so i
think I'll vote for her because she's a woman. This
is no basis upon which to choose the quarterback of
your football team, much less to choose who's going to
be in a position to make sure that when a
(25:17):
fire breaks out, your city is prepared. Because when you
choose people for the wrong reasons their qualifications to get them,
there will be how they lead. So if the only
thing you've ever done to earn a four hundred thousand
dollars job as the diversity director for the fire department
(25:39):
is bitch about the white firefighters, then what's going to
happen when the fire breaks out?
Speaker 6 (25:45):
Because you don't know you never fought a fire.
Speaker 12 (25:51):
My buddy Jesse Kelly said that it looks like Los
Angeles is staffing a softball team with all these fat
lesbians rather than leaders of a department to save lives.
And guess what, even if your goal was to screw
over the white people, who's getting.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Hurt by this?
Speaker 12 (26:13):
Who can least afford to have their home burned down.
The Palisades folks they got insurance and they'll just move
to Aspen. These folks, the poor, the working poor, these
people are going to suffer. You look at what happened
(26:34):
in Lehina. Sure there are rich people on Maui. They
just hop islands, they just go somewhere else. But poor
people they can't recover. They may not have insurance. Is
that a bad decision maybe, but that's the reality. So
I want you to listen to Gavin Nusom back in
(26:56):
twenty twenty one to catch you back up to speed.
I'm sorry I had to interrupt this, but here he
is explaining that wildfire preparedness will be better since we
got Trump out and we got Biden in. This was
right after Biden came into office.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
Listen to this.
Speaker 13 (27:09):
That's what's different now is we are committed as a team,
as a partnership with the legislature and other state agencies,
including now the federal government. No longer a sparring partner,
but a working partner federal government, where we're not addressing
headwinds but tailwinds in terms of the support. A memoranda
of understanding, doubling our respective commitments to vegetation management and
(27:33):
forest management and prescribed burns to support the Biden administration
with resources, not just rhetoric, to help this collective cause
it's a different paradigm, it's a different framework.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Okay, Well, the proofs in the pudding.
Speaker 12 (27:51):
Speaking of putting ahead, Joe Biden flew into California to
review the situation. You know, he thought he'd take it,
you know, because he house burned down, or so he says,
it didn't there was a little kitchen fire, but he
loves to say that. And upon reviewing, he announced that
his takeaway was, you know, I'm a great grandfather today.
(28:11):
Oh well, well that's that's what you take away from
touring all the devastation.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
We got the kids news, he still standing.
Speaker 12 (28:27):
The good news is I'm a great grandfathers the dead.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Girl boy, so.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Take a long recess.
Speaker 12 (28:45):
Of course, he didn't claim the little girl born to
the stripper in Arkansas that uh Hunter impregnated and denied
paternity until it was he was forced by the courts
to prove it.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Uh.
Speaker 12 (28:58):
He didn't claim that child because well, yeah, yeah, so
he's going.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
To be a great grandfather. He not even a good grandfather.
Speaker 12 (29:12):
Just asked the granddaughter in Arkansas that he refuses to
even acknowledge.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
How would you like that your your grandfather is the.
Speaker 12 (29:19):
President of the United States and he denies you or
his grandchild even after the tests were taken.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
And prove it.
Speaker 12 (29:28):
You remember when Joe Rogan, when Donald Trump was on
the Joe Rogan podcast a few months ago. Kind of
interesting that it veered into this. President Trump explained why
California continues to have wildfires, and boy does he nail this.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
Listen carefully.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
They said, we have no water. I said, do you
have a drought? No, we don't have a drought. I said,
what did he have no water? Because the water isn't
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