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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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a mass shooting. There'll be a guy who's a hero,
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it's not. But there are so many things we have
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watching what you're doing that you could be a mentor for.
I learned to be a good husband by watching as
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a good husband to my mother. But I also had
mentors early in life, and I would say, hey, you
know what do I do when my buddies invite me
to go to the game. But I'm feeling like my
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wife wants to spend time with me because we both
both had a long week, and she'd rather go to
dinner with me.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
What do I do?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
How do you balance that? Because I do want to
go hang out with my buddies, I do want to
have poker night. I do want to go on the
hunting trip or a fishing trip. I do want to
go to the sporting event. And then I had that
same question, you know when I had kids, how you
work through that? And I had mentors who were older
than me. I was bold enough to ask them for advice,
but most young people won't be. And I will tell
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you this. For those of you who are new to
the show, will you will come to learn this. I
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We needed people to get out and vote for Donald
Trump for him to win so that he could do
all these great things we're excited about. And if every
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single person didn't vote, he wouldn't win. Well, every dollar
you spend is a vote you cast. What kind of
companies do you want? Do you want local companies or
do you just want multinational companies? Do you want locally
owned and operated companies? Do you want companies that treat
you right? Do you want companies that treat you like
a number? Do you want scam companies? Do you want
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you to them, it's a whole different experience. Right as
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Speaker 2 (08:26):
Enjoy it, Jamestown Man.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I don't normally gets into natural disasters and the sort
of things that occupy people's time that they'll watch twenty
four hours a day, but the wildfire issue has really
really interested me because it is more than anything else,
not a natural disaster phenomenon. It is a failure of
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government at every level. It is the the manifestation of
all the Democrat liberal progressive policies and personnel. It's laid
out for full display. I took a call earlier today
from Jerry, who's a water tender, and yeah, I want
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to start the show with that. Jerry, I got a
note that you are in Malibu helping fight the fires
right now.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
That is correct, drive O a water tender and I'm
in Malibu right now, which is the staging point just
outside of Pacific Pallisade where the majority of the houses
were burnt that I know about.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
And so you're in Malibu and then you will head
down into the fires.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Correct, it's totally about fifteen to twenty minutes away.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, yeah, no, I know that area. I have a
friend that we used to go visit that's just off
the pch in Malibu. Beautiful, beautiful community. My goodness? Is
that a glorious community? Is this what you do full time?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Pretty much? I do disasters, but during the summertime, Yeah,
I drive the tenders and they send me all. I've
been through Western the Western US, we go all over.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
So yes, and so when, so what exactly does the
tender do? Explain this process to me?
Speaker 5 (10:28):
How what you do?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Worse?
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Okay, I have a tanker truck carries three thousand gallons
and we go to a scene and we find a fire, hydrant,
we fill a fire tank, and they assign us to
like a strikeforce, which is several engines, and we go
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to wherever those engines are going and we fill them
up and then they empty their because they only have
like five hundred gallons seven hundred gallons in their engines,
so they go through that with their hoses pretty darn quick.
So we go supply them and then when they're filled
and we go do several more and then when we're empty,
we go down the hill or to wherever the nearest
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fire hydrant is and we fill back up and go.
So basically, the fire engines stay on the scene working
and putting out the fires, and we're the ones suttling
water back and forth so they never run out.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
And where are you getting this water from? Just any
of the fire hydrants that's available, Oh okay, so you
pull it from the fire hydrants, correct.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
And sometimes we have to go drafting, you know, depending
on where the location is. You know, drafting is when
you go to a lake or reservoir or something and
you pump out I pump out the water myself, but
most of the time we do resid fire hydrants.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
And where these fire hydrants in LA. Are you having
to go outside because those are overworked?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
No, these are in LA, but yes they were overworked.
And the farther up the hill you went, the less
the pressure got.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
So how many gallons on your truck? Three thousand and
how long does it take? What's the rate you can
pull that water out and fill that truck up?
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Now?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Of course that's the big variable. It can take. Me
at this fire, the worst time, it took me a
good twenty or twenty five minutes. When I have good pressure,
it's a good ten minutes. And it depends, of course,
on what hydrits you're pulling from.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
And finished that sentence because.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Oh it's too many straws are pulling from the water
from the hydros. Oh, because why there's less pressure. Yes,
this is the first time I run into the situation
where there has not been sufficient pressure.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
So I want you to be king. I want you
to be king for a moment, Jerry. And you don't
have political considerations. You can just do what's best to
maximize the benefit for the most number of people, even
if you make some people very angry. What is within
the realm of possibility that in your mind could be
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done to have minimized the problems at the start or
now to do the most good.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
It's such an easy fix, it's mind boggling. All you
have to do is assign one water tender to every
strike team, which is basically like three engines. And when
that strike team gets called out, the water tender goes
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with them, and those guys can stay working all the time.
And if there's less don't have enough water, then the
tender runs down, finds the water and brings it back
up to them. So all they have to do is
work NonStop.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
And who do you work?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Very simple thing. Who? Actually I don't want to see.
I don't want to take the name of the company.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Are you.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Are you with a governmental entity or a private provider?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
No, I'm a private We're a private company. We do
have contracts with cal Fire and the US Forest Service
and we get called say come on down. So case
in point, for this specific fire, my general manager called
me up Tuesday morning and said, this looks like it's
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going to be a big fire. Get ready. So I
loaded up my truck. Everything was set and at eight
o'clock at night I got the call and they said
be it zoom a beach in Los Angeles at seven
in the morning. Well, I'm only three hours away from
where I live in our shop is three hours away.
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I took off at eight o'clock and I was down
here Tuesday night at eleven o'clock and my sister lives
in the Palisades, so I went straight to her house.
There was six engines in that whole complex where she
was at, and they were fighting fire, of course, and
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I pulled on up there. First thing. They said, you
got water?
Speaker 5 (15:27):
I go.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I certainly do, and I filled them up and I
spent the whole night doing.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
That, even though I wasn't on duty. And that is
what was needed because.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
They just sat there and put out They saved one house,
that's all they could do. But they were putting out
the embers as much as they could, and you know,
it was basically what it was. They had no water.
And I got there last night and I was the
only water tender there for the whole night.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Well, so there again we had this problem with Center
point Energy, or center pointless as we call him in Houston,
where the leader is from PG and E. He came
from PG and E. Out here where it's it's a
question of a lack of a battle plan for when
these contingencies happened. It sounds like, you know, everybody's running
around frantic. They should have had their contract with you
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and it should be a plan that they execute so
when this happens, they already knew what to do, so
that they had you on the phone far earlier because
obviously you were ready to step up and serve. Thank
you for the call, Jerry, Well, lucky you. The Michael
Ferry Show continues your Lucky Day. Our executive producer, Chatta
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Cone Nakanishi, is Hawaiian and so we get a lot
of Hawaiian tunes worked into the Weekend Review, which is
always fun because it's a song that you know, but
with the Hawaiian vibe and we love it. Ramon, did
you do you see this video of the lady who
confronted Gavin Newsom in Los Angeles? It is glorious. She
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sees Newsom and she goes running up and talks to
him and he pretends to be on the phone. This
is a woman who I don't think ever would have
gone up to the governor under any circumstances or anybody else.
But she's had enough. She's had enough, she's lost. You know,
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at a certain point she's been pushed too far, and
in his security detail is getting very aggressed with her,
and she goes, I'm not gonna hurt him. Her point
is stop trying to play the heavy here.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Now.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
The fact that she's wearing a mask means you can't
hear her as well. But this is this is kind
of the voice of the frustrated Californian all encapsulated in
one video of this woman.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Governor, you got a second governor, Governor, I live here.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Governor, that was my daughter's school. Governor, Please tell me
what you're gonna do.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
But I'm not gonna hurt.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Of my promise.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I'm literally talking to the President right now to specifically
answer the question of what we can do for.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
You and your daughter.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Can I hear it? Can I hear your call? Because
I don't believe it.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
I'm sorry, there's literally I've tried five times.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
That's why I'm walking around to make the President not
to your call.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Because it's not going through.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Why I have to get self service.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Let's get it, let's get it.
Speaker 7 (18:37):
I want to be here when you call the President.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I'm doing that right now, and it's to immediately get reimbursements,
individual assistance, and to help you on to get this
looking before.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
I'm so sorry, especially for your daughter. I have four kids.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Everyone who went to school there, they lost their homes.
They lost two homes because they were living in one
and building another. Kevin, please tell me, tell me what
are you going.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
To do with the president.
Speaker 8 (19:02):
Right now, we're getting we're getting the resources to help rebuild.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
The water in the hydrants.
Speaker 9 (19:07):
Governor, it's all literally, is it going to be different
next time?
Speaker 1 (19:12):
It has to be has to be of course, what
are you going to do to fill the hydrants?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I would fill them up personally.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
You know that I would fill off the hydrance myself.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
But would you do that?
Speaker 5 (19:24):
I would do whatever I can, But you're not.
Speaker 9 (19:26):
I see the Do you know there's water dripping over there?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Governor, there's water coming out there.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
You can use it.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (19:33):
I'm going to make the call to address everything I
can right now, including making.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Sure people to make sure you can I have an
opportunity to at least tell people what you're doing, what
you're saying you're doing. Can somebody have a contact, Can
I have your contact.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Right now, there's another issue at play here. It's an
economic issue. California placed price controls on insurance. They said,
you can't charge more than this, and the insurance company said, well,
then we can't make money because we have to pay
out so many I know everybody hates insurance company, but
this is just like rent control. If you say you
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can't raise your rents, then people won't build and they'll
sell out and move on. And that's what's happened here.
Insurance companies have pulled out of the state. They've canceled
fire insurance for a lot of people, and now those
people don't have fire insurance. So did you really help
them out? Did you know the government offers flood insurance
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to Hollywood stars or their beach house that the government
reinsures or subsidizes. This is Rand Paul centeror Ran Paul
blowing the whistle yet again, talking about this before all
this started a few weeks ago.
Speaker 10 (20:41):
Listen carefully, Oh, Nicholas Cage boy, that's and ice house
four point two million in New Orleans also eligible for
government insurance. Look, I love Nicholas Cage. I'd go to
parties at his house too.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I love his movies.
Speaker 10 (20:56):
I'd pay twenty bucks to go to the movie. Actually,
I don't want to pay twenty bucks paid.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
To go to see his movies.
Speaker 10 (21:01):
But I don't think we should buy insurance for his home.
If he can get a four point two million dollar home,
I'll bet you could buy his own insurance. Let's see
who else is eligible for government insurance? Oh, Matt Damon,
he's had a lot of good movies. Man, he must
be doing great. His place costs twenty million dollars and
it's eligible for government insurance too. You think Matt Damon
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would be embarrassed to find out that the government's subsidizing
his first two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Shouldn't we all be embarrassed?
Speaker 10 (21:32):
Programmed sixteen billion dollars in the hole, and we want
to renew a program without any reforms. Just keep doing it,
it keeps losing money. Just keep doing the same thing.
Maybe Matt Damon could buy his own insurance. Who else
has a house sud be eligible for insurance?
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Fill In Collins. He made some good music. It must
have made some great music.
Speaker 10 (21:51):
His home's worth forty million dollars in Biscayne Bay, Florida
also eligible for government insurance. So, you know, I just
I can't imagine how we couldn't come to a compromise.
So if ordinary people have second homes that are five
hundred thousand dollars beach homes, if we just went.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Up to two million, then we're only going to.
Speaker 10 (22:11):
Be clipping Phil Collins and Nicholas Cage and a few
others we have anybody else, Let's see who else we have?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Oh now, share she's been doing well for a long time.
Speaker 10 (22:24):
She has a forty two million dollar place in Miami Beach,
also eligible.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
For government insurance. You know, we could go on and on.
Speaker 10 (22:32):
But the thing is, this doesn't mean we don't like
rich people or appreciate their success.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I'm all for it.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I'm just not forgiving them free stuff. Why would we
give them subsidized insurance?
Speaker 10 (22:43):
So what I will offer now is a second amendment,
and this one might be easier to accept. And realize
that this could be accepted right now.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
This entire program could be.
Speaker 10 (22:53):
Reauthorized with these amendments tonight. If the Senator from Louisiana
except this amendments, ask.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Me or take me to Texas so talking about it,
he gets out of this state. I think Michael Berry
robs Michael Barry show.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Paul talk about this waste and listen to how aggressively
Vivek and Elon have talked about this massive waste in
our government. It gets me excited about the potential cuts,
the potential efficiency measures. It's cutting government waste is good
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for me and fills me with a sort of religious zeal.
I hate waste. It is toxic.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
It is bad.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
It is worse than just money that's not being put
to good use. It creates an entire culture, sort of
like trash or graffiti. It's not a new concept to
cut waste.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Listen to Milton Friedman, who, by the way, have you
got some time this weekend, go to YouTube or Rumble
or wherever you go and look up Milton Friedman on inflation,
on any number of them on pricing, and you you
don't have to go to college. You don't have to
you don't have to do all those. You can learn
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from the master Milton Friedman, and his videos are all over.
He's long long gone influencing public policy. But it's dry,
it is, but you will find that you will learn
more there than most anywhere else. This is Milton Friedman
talking about which government agencies he would cut.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
I want to just go right down the list quickly
and have you give me a thumbs up or thumbs down.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Keep them or abolish them.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
Department of Agriculture abolished, gone, Department of Commerce abolish gone.
Department of Defense keep keep it, Department of Education abolish
gone Energy, abolish How accept as energy ties in with
the military, Well.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
And we shove it under defense.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
A little bit that handles the nuclear right, that at
plutonium and so forth, goes under defense, but we abolish
the rest of it. Health and human services, there is some.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
There are There is room for some public health activities
to prevent the contagion such a thing as, for example.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
So you keep the National Institutes of Health, say.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
And those are mostly a research agencies.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
No, No, that's the question of whether the government should
be involved in financing research.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
And the answer is no.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Well, that's a complicated that's a very complicated issue, and
it's not an easy answer with respect of that.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
We'll eliminate half of the Department of That sounds okay,
one half there we go, Housing an urban development, Oh,
didn't even pause over that.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
One Department of the Interior.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Oh well, but housing an urban development has done an
enormous amount of harm. My god, if you think of
the way in which they've destroyed parts of cities under
the rubric of eliminating slums. Check you know you remember
and Martin Anderson wrote a book on the Federal Bulldozer
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describing the effect of a urban development. There have been
many more dwelling units torn down in the in the
in the name of public housing.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
That have been built.
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Jack Kemp has proposed selling to the current inhabitants of
public housing their unit, their townhouse, their apartment for a
dollar apiece and just shifting the ownership to the.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Got rid of the Department of Housing and Urban Development.
It would be worth doing that, all.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
Right, done, that's gone, Department of the Interior, your beloved
National Park Service.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Well, given that, the problem there is you first have
to sell off all the land that the government owns.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
But that's what you should do. It could be done.
You should do that. There's no reasons the government owned.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
The government now owns something like one third of all
the land in the country, and that's too much.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Should go down to zero.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Should go down well, not entirely zero. They ought to
own the land on which government buildings are.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Okay, terrific.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
Department of Justice, Oh yeah, keep that, keep that way.
Labor gone, state, keep keep it. Transportation gone gone. The treasury,
you have to keep it to collect taxes, all right,
collect taxes through the treasury.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Veterans affairs.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
You can regard the veteran affairs as a way of
paying essentially salaries for services of those who have been
in the are medforced. But you ought to be able
to get rid of it. You should pay it by day.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
It off and off, pay off lump sums.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
But that's right, and just get rid of it, Okay,
Milton Friedman, if you are made dictator for one day,
the next day.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
No, no, I don't want to be made dictator. You wouldn't.
I don't believe in dictators, Okay.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
I believe we want to bring about change by the
by the agreement for the citizens.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
I don't. I don't believe in Let me put it
this way.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Then if I can't persuade, if we can't persuade the public,
but it's desirable to do these things, we have no
right to impose them, even.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
If we had the power to do it all right,
from fourteen departments down to.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Or basic fundamental functions. What are its fundamental functions? Preserve
of the peace, defend the country right, provide a mechanism
whereby individuals can adjudicate their disputes and suggests justice department.
Department protect individuals from being coerced by other individuals. The
police function right, and now this is both the central
(28:34):
government and the state and local governments. The police function
is primarily local and central right, and those are the
fundamental functions of government.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
In my opinion.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
We could play Milton Friedman all day long, but we
only have so much time. So that's why so often
our Saturday podcast is a Milton Friedman commentary on some
important issue. So this is Milton Friedman, sorry, since we're
on the subject, making the argument that the equal pay
for equal work laws actually hurt women.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Equal pay for equal work laws are a source of apartheide.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
You know, the basic source of.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Apartheid in South Africa was the insistence by trade unions
on equal.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Pay for equal work.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
The equal to women who go around today urging equal
pay for equal work or being anti feminist, they don't
intend to be, but that is the effect of their policy,
because if there is any activity in which, for any reason,
a male is preferable to a female, or vice versa,
the only weapon the less productive sex has is to
(29:43):
offer to work for less. And if you deny them
that opportunity, you're assuring yourself that you're gonna have all
male jobs, or all female jobs, or all white jobs,
are all black jobs.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
But aren't you also condemning them to stay that way?
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Not at all, not at all the typical course, if
you go back to American history, by taking these low
paid jobs, a great many people, not all, but a
great many people were able to develop skills and activities,
accumulate a little skill, a little capital, a little knowledge,
improve their lot, become advance in the stage, get to
(30:17):
a higher level of productivity, and get a higher income.
That's been the typical way up the ladder for most
of the people who came in. Here was a way
up the ladder for my parents, for your parents, or
grandparents or great grandparents, I don't know which. And that's
the way in which, unfortunately there's no way in which
you can immediately propel people to the top of the ladder.
Speaker 9 (30:37):
Okay, thank you very much, Thank you, mister Friedman, referring
to the statements that you made about women who advocate
equal pay for equal work.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
See I thaid I'd get a rise out of that.
Er delighted to have it?
Speaker 9 (30:51):
Yes, okay, I just would like to know if you're insinuating,
or perhaps you know, point blankly saying that women and
other minorities these skills are in fear to those of
those now holding those jobs, and that they need to
go through a period where their skills need to be
improved and therefore deserved to be paid less.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
No, I don't think dessert has anything to do with it.
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
First of all, I think dessert is an impossible thing
to decide who deserves one. Nobody deserves anything, Thank god,
we don't get what we deserve.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
But I'm not saying that at all.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
I'm saying a very different thing. I'm saying that the
actual effect of requiring equal pay for equal.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Work will be to harm women.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
If women's skills are higher than men's in a particular job,
and are recognized to be higher, the law does no good,
because then they will be able to compete away and
can get the same income if.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
Their skills are less for whatever reason.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Maybe it isn't because they're saying it's their sex. Maybe
it's because they were out of the labor force, Maybe
it's for other reasons. And you say the only way
you can you are able to hire them by paying
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(03:24):
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(03:52):
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(05:22):
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Speaker 2 (08:26):
Enjoy it, Jamestown Man.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I don't normally gets into natural disasters and the sort
of things that occupy people's time that they'll watch twenty
four hours a day, but the wildfire issue has really
really interested me because it is more than anything else,
not a natural disaster phenomenon. It is a failure of
(08:57):
government at every level. It is the the manifestation of
all the Democrat liberal progressive policies and personnel. It's laid
out for full display. I took a call earlier today
from Jerry, who's a water tender, and yeah, I want
(09:19):
to start the show with that. Jerry, I got a
note that you are in Malibu helping fight the fires
right now.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
That is correct, drive O a water tender and I'm
in Malibu right now, which is the staging point just
outside of Pacific Pallisade where the majority of the houses
were burnt that I know about.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
And so you're in Malibu and then you will head
down into the fires.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Correct, it's totally about fifteen to twenty minutes away.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, yeah, no, I know that area. I have a
friend that we used to go visit that's just off
the pch in Malibu. Beautiful, beautiful community. My goodness? Is
that a glorious community? Is this what you do full time?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Pretty much? I do disasters, but during the summertime, Yeah,
I drive the tenders and they send me all. I've
been through Western the Western US, we go all over.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
So yes, and so when, so what exactly does the
tender do? Explain this process to me?
Speaker 5 (10:28):
How what you do?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Worse?
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Okay, I have a tanker truck carries three thousand gallons
and we go to a scene and we find a fire, hydrant,
we fill a fire tank, and they assign us to
like a strikeforce, which is several engines, and we go
(10:52):
to wherever those engines are going and we fill them
up and then they empty their because they only have
like five hundred gallons seven hundred gallons in their engines,
so they go through that with their hoses pretty darn quick.
So we go supply them and then when they're filled
and we go do several more and then when we're empty,
we go down the hill or to wherever the nearest
(11:13):
fire hydrant is and we fill back up and go.
So basically, the fire engines stay on the scene working
and putting out the fires, and we're the ones suttling
water back and forth so they never run out.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
And where are you getting this water from? Just any
of the fire hydrants that's available, Oh okay, so you
pull it from the fire hydrants, correct.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
And sometimes we have to go drafting, you know, depending
on where the location is. You know, drafting is when
you go to a lake or reservoir or something and
you pump out I pump out the water myself, but
most of the time we do resid fire hydrants.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
And where these fire hydrants in LA. Are you having
to go outside because those are overworked?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
No, these are in LA, but yes they were overworked.
And the farther up the hill you went, the less
the pressure got.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
So how many gallons on your truck? Three thousand and
how long does it take? What's the rate you can
pull that water out and fill that truck up?
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Now?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Of course that's the big variable. It can take. Me
at this fire, the worst time, it took me a
good twenty or twenty five minutes. When I have good pressure,
it's a good ten minutes. And it depends, of course,
on what hydrits you're pulling from.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
And finished that sentence because.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Oh it's too many straws are pulling from the water
from the hydros. Oh, because why there's less pressure. Yes,
this is the first time I run into the situation
where there has not been sufficient pressure.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
So I want you to be king. I want you
to be king for a moment, Jerry. And you don't
have political considerations. You can just do what's best to
maximize the benefit for the most number of people, even
if you make some people very angry. What is within
the realm of possibility that in your mind could be
(13:23):
done to have minimized the problems at the start or
now to do the most good.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
It's such an easy fix, it's mind boggling. All you
have to do is assign one water tender to every
strike team, which is basically like three engines. And when
that strike team gets called out, the water tender goes
(13:54):
with them, and those guys can stay working all the time.
And if there's less don't have enough water, then the
tender runs down, finds the water and brings it back
up to them. So all they have to do is
work NonStop.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
And who do you work?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Very simple thing. Who? Actually I don't want to see.
I don't want to take the name of the company.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Are you.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Are you with a governmental entity or a private provider?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
No, I'm a private We're a private company. We do
have contracts with cal Fire and the US Forest Service
and we get called say come on down. So case
in point, for this specific fire, my general manager called
me up Tuesday morning and said, this looks like it's
(14:41):
going to be a big fire. Get ready. So I
loaded up my truck. Everything was set and at eight
o'clock at night I got the call and they said
be it zoom a beach in Los Angeles at seven
in the morning. Well, I'm only three hours away from
where I live in our shop is three hours away.
(15:04):
I took off at eight o'clock and I was down
here Tuesday night at eleven o'clock and my sister lives
in the Palisades, so I went straight to her house.
There was six engines in that whole complex where she
was at, and they were fighting fire, of course, and
(15:24):
I pulled on up there. First thing. They said, you
got water?
Speaker 5 (15:27):
I go.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I certainly do, and I filled them up and I
spent the whole night doing.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
That, even though I wasn't on duty. And that is
what was needed because.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
They just sat there and put out They saved one house,
that's all they could do. But they were putting out
the embers as much as they could, and you know,
it was basically what it was. They had no water.
And I got there last night and I was the
only water tender there for the whole night.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Well, so there again we had this problem with Center
point Energy, or center pointless as we call him in Houston,
where the leader is from PG and E. He came
from PG and E. Out here where it's it's a
question of a lack of a battle plan for when
these contingencies happened. It sounds like, you know, everybody's running
around frantic. They should have had their contract with you
(16:18):
and it should be a plan that they execute so
when this happens, they already knew what to do, so
that they had you on the phone far earlier because
obviously you were ready to step up and serve. Thank
you for the call, Jerry, Well, lucky you. The Michael
Ferry Show continues your Lucky Day. Our executive producer, Chatta
(16:45):
Cone Nakanishi, is Hawaiian and so we get a lot
of Hawaiian tunes worked into the Weekend Review, which is
always fun because it's a song that you know, but
with the Hawaiian vibe and we love it. Ramon, did
you do you see this video of the lady who
confronted Gavin Newsom in Los Angeles? It is glorious. She
(17:10):
sees Newsom and she goes running up and talks to
him and he pretends to be on the phone. This
is a woman who I don't think ever would have
gone up to the governor under any circumstances or anybody else.
But she's had enough. She's had enough, she's lost. You know,
(17:32):
at a certain point she's been pushed too far, and
in his security detail is getting very aggressed with her,
and she goes, I'm not gonna hurt him. Her point
is stop trying to play the heavy here.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Now.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
The fact that she's wearing a mask means you can't
hear her as well. But this is this is kind
of the voice of the frustrated Californian all encapsulated in
one video of this woman.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Governor, you got a second governor, Governor, I live here.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Governor, that was my daughter's school. Governor, Please tell me
what you're gonna do.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
But I'm not gonna hurt.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Of my promise.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I'm literally talking to the President right now to specifically
answer the question of what we can do for.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
You and your daughter.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Can I hear it? Can I hear your call? Because
I don't believe it.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
I'm sorry, there's literally I've tried five times.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
That's why I'm walking around to make the President not
to your call.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Because it's not going through.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Why I have to get self service.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Let's get it, let's get it.
Speaker 7 (18:37):
I want to be here when you call the President.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I'm doing that right now, and it's to immediately get reimbursements,
individual assistance, and to help you on to get this
looking before.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
I'm so sorry, especially for your daughter. I have four kids.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Everyone who went to school there, they lost their homes.
They lost two homes because they were living in one
and building another. Kevin, please tell me, tell me what
are you going.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
To do with the president.
Speaker 8 (19:02):
Right now, we're getting we're getting the resources to help rebuild.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
The water in the hydrants.
Speaker 9 (19:07):
Governor, it's all literally, is it going to be different
next time?
Speaker 1 (19:12):
It has to be has to be of course, what
are you going to do to fill the hydrants?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I would fill them up personally.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
You know that I would fill off the hydrance myself.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
But would you do that?
Speaker 5 (19:24):
I would do whatever I can, But you're not.
Speaker 9 (19:26):
I see the Do you know there's water dripping over there?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Governor, there's water coming out there.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
You can use it.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (19:33):
I'm going to make the call to address everything I
can right now, including making.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Sure people to make sure you can I have an
opportunity to at least tell people what you're doing, what
you're saying you're doing. Can somebody have a contact, Can
I have your contact.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Right now, there's another issue at play here. It's an
economic issue. California placed price controls on insurance. They said,
you can't charge more than this, and the insurance company said, well,
then we can't make money because we have to pay
out so many I know everybody hates insurance company, but
this is just like rent control. If you say you
(20:08):
can't raise your rents, then people won't build and they'll
sell out and move on. And that's what's happened here.
Insurance companies have pulled out of the state. They've canceled
fire insurance for a lot of people, and now those
people don't have fire insurance. So did you really help
them out? Did you know the government offers flood insurance
(20:28):
to Hollywood stars or their beach house that the government
reinsures or subsidizes. This is Rand Paul centeror Ran Paul
blowing the whistle yet again, talking about this before all
this started a few weeks ago.
Speaker 10 (20:41):
Listen carefully, Oh, Nicholas Cage boy, that's and ice house
four point two million in New Orleans also eligible for
government insurance. Look, I love Nicholas Cage. I'd go to
parties at his house too.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I love his movies.
Speaker 10 (20:56):
I'd pay twenty bucks to go to the movie. Actually,
I don't want to pay twenty bucks paid.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
To go to see his movies.
Speaker 10 (21:01):
But I don't think we should buy insurance for his home.
If he can get a four point two million dollar home,
I'll bet you could buy his own insurance. Let's see
who else is eligible for government insurance? Oh, Matt Damon,
he's had a lot of good movies. Man, he must
be doing great. His place costs twenty million dollars and
it's eligible for government insurance too. You think Matt Damon
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would be embarrassed to find out that the government's subsidizing
his first two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Shouldn't we all be embarrassed?
Speaker 10 (21:32):
Programmed sixteen billion dollars in the hole, and we want
to renew a program without any reforms. Just keep doing it,
it keeps losing money. Just keep doing the same thing.
Maybe Matt Damon could buy his own insurance. Who else
has a house sud be eligible for insurance?
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Fill In Collins. He made some good music. It must
have made some great music.
Speaker 10 (21:51):
His home's worth forty million dollars in Biscayne Bay, Florida
also eligible for government insurance. So, you know, I just
I can't imagine how we couldn't come to a compromise.
So if ordinary people have second homes that are five
hundred thousand dollars beach homes, if we just went.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Up to two million, then we're only going to.
Speaker 10 (22:11):
Be clipping Phil Collins and Nicholas Cage and a few
others we have anybody else, Let's see who else we have?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Oh now, share she's been doing well for a long time.
Speaker 10 (22:24):
She has a forty two million dollar place in Miami Beach,
also eligible.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
For government insurance. You know, we could go on and on.
Speaker 10 (22:32):
But the thing is, this doesn't mean we don't like
rich people or appreciate their success.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I'm all for it.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I'm just not forgiving them free stuff. Why would we
give them subsidized insurance?
Speaker 10 (22:43):
So what I will offer now is a second amendment,
and this one might be easier to accept. And realize
that this could be accepted right now.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
This entire program could be.
Speaker 10 (22:53):
Reauthorized with these amendments tonight. If the Senator from Louisiana
except this amendments, ask.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Me or take me to Texas so talking about it,
he gets out of this state. I think Michael Berry
robs Michael Barry show.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Paul talk about this waste and listen to how aggressively
Vivek and Elon have talked about this massive waste in
our government. It gets me excited about the potential cuts,
the potential efficiency measures. It's cutting government waste is good
(23:32):
for me and fills me with a sort of religious zeal.
I hate waste. It is toxic.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
It is bad.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
It is worse than just money that's not being put
to good use. It creates an entire culture, sort of
like trash or graffiti. It's not a new concept to
cut waste.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Listen to Milton Friedman, who, by the way, have you
got some time this weekend, go to YouTube or Rumble
or wherever you go and look up Milton Friedman on inflation,
on any number of them on pricing, and you you
don't have to go to college. You don't have to
you don't have to do all those. You can learn
(24:16):
from the master Milton Friedman, and his videos are all over.
He's long long gone influencing public policy. But it's dry,
it is, but you will find that you will learn
more there than most anywhere else. This is Milton Friedman
talking about which government agencies he would cut.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
I want to just go right down the list quickly
and have you give me a thumbs up or thumbs down.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Keep them or abolish them.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
Department of Agriculture abolished, gone, Department of Commerce abolish gone.
Department of Defense keep keep it, Department of Education abolish
gone Energy, abolish How accept as energy ties in with
the military, Well.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
And we shove it under defense.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
A little bit that handles the nuclear right, that at
plutonium and so forth, goes under defense, but we abolish
the rest of it. Health and human services, there is some.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
There are There is room for some public health activities
to prevent the contagion such a thing as, for example.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
So you keep the National Institutes of Health, say.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
And those are mostly a research agencies.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
No, No, that's the question of whether the government should
be involved in financing research.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
And the answer is no.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Well, that's a complicated that's a very complicated issue, and
it's not an easy answer with respect of that.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
We'll eliminate half of the Department of That sounds okay,
one half there we go, Housing an urban development, Oh,
didn't even pause over that.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
One Department of the Interior.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Oh well, but housing an urban development has done an
enormous amount of harm. My god, if you think of
the way in which they've destroyed parts of cities under
the rubric of eliminating slums. Check you know you remember
and Martin Anderson wrote a book on the Federal Bulldozer
(26:05):
describing the effect of a urban development. There have been
many more dwelling units torn down in the in the
in the name of public housing.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
That have been built.
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Jack Kemp has proposed selling to the current inhabitants of
public housing their unit, their townhouse, their apartment for a
dollar apiece and just shifting the ownership to the.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Got rid of the Department of Housing and Urban Development.
It would be worth doing that, all.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
Right, done, that's gone, Department of the Interior, your beloved
National Park Service.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Well, given that, the problem there is you first have
to sell off all the land that the government owns.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
But that's what you should do. It could be done.
You should do that. There's no reasons the government owned.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
The government now owns something like one third of all
the land in the country, and that's too much.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Should go down to zero.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Should go down well, not entirely zero. They ought to
own the land on which government buildings are.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Okay, terrific.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
Department of Justice, Oh yeah, keep that, keep that way.
Labor gone, state, keep keep it. Transportation gone gone. The treasury,
you have to keep it to collect taxes, all right,
collect taxes through the treasury.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Veterans affairs.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
You can regard the veteran affairs as a way of
paying essentially salaries for services of those who have been
in the are medforced. But you ought to be able
to get rid of it. You should pay it by day.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
It off and off, pay off lump sums.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
But that's right, and just get rid of it, Okay,
Milton Friedman, if you are made dictator for one day,
the next day.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
No, no, I don't want to be made dictator. You wouldn't.
I don't believe in dictators, Okay.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
I believe we want to bring about change by the
by the agreement for the citizens.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
I don't. I don't believe in Let me put it
this way.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Then if I can't persuade, if we can't persuade the public,
but it's desirable to do these things, we have no
right to impose them, even.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
If we had the power to do it all right,
from fourteen departments down to.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Or basic fundamental functions. What are its fundamental functions? Preserve
of the peace, defend the country right, provide a mechanism
whereby individuals can adjudicate their disputes and suggests justice department.
Department protect individuals from being coerced by other individuals. The
police function right, and now this is both the central
(28:34):
government and the state and local governments. The police function
is primarily local and central right, and those are the
fundamental functions of government.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
In my opinion.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
We could play Milton Friedman all day long, but we
only have so much time. So that's why so often
our Saturday podcast is a Milton Friedman commentary on some
important issue. So this is Milton Friedman, sorry, since we're
on the subject, making the argument that the equal pay
for equal work laws actually hurt women.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Equal pay for equal work laws are a source of apartheide.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
You know, the basic source of.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Apartheid in South Africa was the insistence by trade unions
on equal.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Pay for equal work.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
The equal to women who go around today urging equal
pay for equal work or being anti feminist, they don't
intend to be, but that is the effect of their policy,
because if there is any activity in which, for any reason,
a male is preferable to a female, or vice versa,
the only weapon the less productive sex has is to
(29:43):
offer to work for less. And if you deny them
that opportunity, you're assuring yourself that you're gonna have all
male jobs, or all female jobs, or all white jobs,
are all black jobs.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
But aren't you also condemning them to stay that way?
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Not at all, not at all the typical course, if
you go back to American history, by taking these low
paid jobs, a great many people, not all, but a
great many people were able to develop skills and activities,
accumulate a little skill, a little capital, a little knowledge,
improve their lot, become advance in the stage, get to
(30:17):
a higher level of productivity, and get a higher income.
That's been the typical way up the ladder for most
of the people who came in. Here was a way
up the ladder for my parents, for your parents, or
grandparents or great grandparents, I don't know which. And that's
the way in which, unfortunately there's no way in which
you can immediately propel people to the top of the ladder.
Speaker 9 (30:37):
Okay, thank you very much, Thank you, mister Friedman, referring
to the statements that you made about women who advocate
equal pay for equal work.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
See I thaid I'd get a rise out of that.
Er delighted to have it?
Speaker 9 (30:51):
Yes, okay, I just would like to know if you're insinuating,
or perhaps you know, point blankly saying that women and
other minorities these skills are in fear to those of
those now holding those jobs, and that they need to
go through a period where their skills need to be
improved and therefore deserved to be paid less.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
No, I don't think dessert has anything to do with it.
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
First of all, I think dessert is an impossible thing
to decide who deserves one. Nobody deserves anything, Thank god,
we don't get what we deserve.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
But I'm not saying that at all.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
I'm saying a very different thing. I'm saying that the
actual effect of requiring equal pay for equal.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Work will be to harm women.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
If women's skills are higher than men's in a particular job,
and are recognized to be higher, the law does no good,
because then they will be able to compete away and
can get the same income if.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
Their skills are less for whatever reason.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Maybe it isn't because they're saying it's their sex. Maybe
it's because they were out of the labor force, Maybe
it's for other reasons. And you say the only way
you can you are able to hire them by paying
the same way, Then you're denying them the only weapon
they have to fight with.
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