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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. Michael
Very Show.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Is on the air.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Look, Mike, we're not going in there like that, like
what hey.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Look, all our lives we've been bad boys all right,
now it's time to be good men.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Who in the hell want to sing that song?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Good man, good man? What you're gonna do?

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Well, play me if you're singing a song like you
meant it it all?

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Catch home, shut down the FBI headquarters building, and open
it up the next day as the Museum of the
Deep State. And you send those seven thousand agents in
the headquarters building down range to chase down rapists, to
chase down murderers, to chase down drug traffickers, and let
the cops be cops on the streets across America. You
keep a small contingent in Washington, DC.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Boys, what's he going to do? What's he going to do?
When they come?

Speaker 5 (00:59):
Boys?

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Bad boys, bad boys? What's he going to do? What's
he going to do?

Speaker 4 (01:04):
When you get rid of half of the legion of
lawyers and special counsels that exist within the FBI to
do one thing to corrupt and obstruct government oversight from
constitutionally applicable committees in Congress.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Boys, bad bull what's he gonna do? What's he gonna
do when they come? Boys? Bad boys, bad voice? What's
going to view? What's you going to do when they
come employs?

Speaker 4 (01:27):
And another aspect of it, real quick is one of
the biggest institutions in the FBI that has been troubled
and politicizing weaponized has been their intel component. We have
an intel agency. I don't need it to be redone
within the walls of the FBI. We've shown when we've
given them that power what they do to it. They
unluckily surveil a president as candidate.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Boe, bad boys. What's he going to do when they compose?
Bad voice, bad points? What's he going to do when
they come for you?

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Bad voice?

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Bad points? What's going to do? Going to do when
they come for you?

Speaker 6 (02:00):
For many years, I was saying, no one of the
seventy two vaccines mandated for children has ever been safety
tested in free licensing, politic see the control trials, and
I want what bad boys?

Speaker 2 (02:12):
What's it going? What's it going the do when they
come for you? Bad boys?

Speaker 7 (02:17):
Bad boys?

Speaker 2 (02:18):
What's it? What's he going to do when they come?
Fool you? Bad boys, bad boys. What's he going?

Speaker 8 (02:25):
Watsy go?

Speaker 2 (02:26):
When they come follow you? Bad boys, bad boys?

Speaker 5 (02:29):
What's he going?

Speaker 2 (02:30):
What's he going to do?

Speaker 6 (02:33):
And in many cases, NIH is hearing the royalty. We
got all of these new vaccine in seventy two shots,
sixteen vaccines and now even more because we're doing the
HBV vaccine. And that year nineteen eighty nine, we saw
an explosion in chronic disease and American children the neurological
disease is suddenly exploded in nineteen eighty nine, eighty D

(02:55):
eighty HD, sleep disorders, languish delays, ASD, autism, to red syndrome, ticks, narcolepsy.
These are all things that I never heard of. Autism
went from one in ten thousand of my generation, according
to the CDC data, one in every thirty four kids today.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Bad voice, bad boy.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
President Trump to speak at ten a m. Central regarding
the crash last night in Washington. We will most likely
carry that live, assuming it it starts on time.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Whenever it starts.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
We were scheduled to have a conversation, a discussion with
Chad Norville, the CEO of rigzone dot Com, and I
have said again and again, we are not a breaking
new show. John Hennity will tell you we are a
breaking news show. We break into whatever we're doing to

(04:06):
cover the breaking news. We are the opposite. That's not
to say he doesn't do a great show. It's a
different approach to how our show is conducted. We are
a magazine. They are a newspaper. It's a very different
I like to step back from the news and have perspective.
I don't like to comment on live news as it's happening,
simply because you have to trust the primary news provider,

(04:29):
and that's usually a liberal reporter or an uninformed reporter
just trying to break something, and often they don't have
good sources, and that's how you enter into the conversation,
which gets baked into the final conclusions. It's hard to
do a you know, correction. That's how you get things
that are wrong. That's how you find out that the

(04:51):
shooter at the school was an angry white male who
just came back from Iraq when it turns out no,
actually he was a Palestinian Muslim who who broke into
the country last year. But people still think the former
because there was a bent to that. So we will
not have our conversation with Chad Norvil, who is the

(05:12):
CEO of rigzone dot Com, that we will postpone until
tomorrow at nine point fifteen. The reason I was eager
to have him on the show and still am is
the energy industry. I get a lot of emails from
people who just come back, particularly from the military, or
they've been laid off and they're looking for a career,
and I tell them go to rigzone dot com. That

(05:34):
is the marketplace for the energy industry. That's where the
big boys, independence and everything in between go to hire
people for all levels of jobs in the energy industry
and Liberation Day of January twentieth mint liberation. In a
lot of ways, we're going to see some exciting things
going on, and we're going to see a lot more

(05:56):
activity in America's energy industry. In rigzone dot com, I'm
kind of the central spot of that.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
I told you.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
I received an email from Russell Lebara in between the
two segments that I had with our firefighters who went
to California to fight the California fires, and he said,
if you need this, it's you got it in your
back pocket.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
I'd like to feed these guys.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
I get a separate message from Matt Bryce at Federal
American Grill. Anything you need, I'm here for you. And
then I got an email from Ed I mean a
text message from Ed Hindi, and he said, do not
say this on the air, but I would also like
to feed those guys. And Ed Hindy is very good

(06:42):
friends with Matt Bryce, he mentored him at Federal American Grill.
And I know he's good friends with Russell Lebarro because
people who run their businesses like those guys do they
respect each other. And I sent back and I said,
unless you specifically tell me not to mention on the
air that Tastes of Texas would also like to feed
those two guys, those four guys and their wives, then

(07:02):
I'm going to mention it. And he said, absolutely, do
not mention it. It looks like a one up, and
I don't do that. I love those guys, but I
would like to privately feed them, and I'm going to
respect his wishes, So I'm not telling you that Taysa
Texas is also going to fell Sam Alsadi at Big
City Wings. He said, don't forget about me. I didn't

(07:24):
forget about you. He started saying, don't you forget about me?
You know the next line, No, it's not. My heart
can't take it. The Lake and Riley Act has been
signed into law. Lacin's teary eyed mother, Alison Phillips, speaking
alongside our President Donald Trump before the bill's signing, saying,

(07:46):
there's no amount of change that will ever bring back
our precious Lincoln, Lincoln, Lake, lacoln even Chad did what
everybody does, Lincoln, Riley, Lake and Riley, and our hope
moving forward is that her life says lives.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Ma'am.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
I wish you had your daughter back. There's nothing that
can replace her. But I think you can find solace
if in no other way than understanding that, yes, changes
were made and lives will be saved because of your daughter,
Lake and.

Speaker 9 (08:17):
Riley, the etherealist, the butterflies with the ferry, they're all Duncans,
and you know Duncan meansos are.

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Speaker 1 (08:49):
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Speaker 3 (08:50):
Say his name because I'm not authorized, and nobody wants
to have to say publicly that they had an issue
with the IRS, which doesn't always mean that you were
at fault. But when the IRS gets hold of you,
they don't let loose. And I get I appreciate when
you take my suggestion on who to use for goods
and services. I do, but I really appreciate when you

(09:14):
give me feedback after the experience. And I will say
this to the person one hundred percent of the time.
It's not positive, it's not always going to be perfect,
but if you let me know that, I will also
follow up with the owner. And many times there was
a miscommunication, many times as a lack of understanding.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Many times guys having a bad day, and we can
fix it.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
That's the business model for our show, and it's tended
to work for us, it's tended to work for our sponsors,
and it's tended to work for a lot of people
who don't want to go to the yellow Pages.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
People still use the Yellow Pages.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Don't want to use the Yellow Pages to go look
for a business because you live in a big city
and you don't know who to go to to talk to.
So I told you the story earlier about this illegal
alien savage deported four times Francisco or a Pesa. Well,
why are you scratching your navel so that I can
see it? I don't need to see that. Oh you
need to stand up to do that. Could you turn

(10:07):
your back? I don't want to look at your You
got the harriest belly. I don't know how harry normal
dudes are, but I mean, I've been in a locker.
I used to work out the met downtown. I swear
you got the harriest belly. And there's a funny inverse.
How come it is when a fella's balled on top,
they got hair all over their back and belly and
everything else. God's playing jokes on people. God's playing jokes

(10:29):
on people, all right. I want you to hear this story.
And my immediate reaction to this story is, I don't
care how much it costs hang this fella hot.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
That was what I originally thought. ABC thirteen with the
story it's.

Speaker 8 (10:40):
A plea deal prosecutor's offered him only because the victim's
family signed off on it, and only when they considered
just how much a death penalty murder trial would cost them.
They project it would have wiped out their yearly budget.
Words of encouragement. Shout it in Spanish to a shekel
Francisco or a Pezzan. As he left the courthouse, we
won because they wanted to kill you, A woman tells him, well,

(11:03):
Ortepeza no longer faces the death penalty.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
As guilty plea means he will.

Speaker 8 (11:07):
Spend the rest of his life in prison, no parole,
no appeals.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
He will be in prison until he dies. It is
a death sentence of its own, just that he'll die.

Speaker 7 (11:16):
Person.

Speaker 8 (11:16):
It was April twenty twenty three when Ortopez has stormed
today's neighbor's home near Cleveland and opened fire, killing five
of them, including a nine.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Year old boy.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
The victims had asked Autopazan to.

Speaker 8 (11:27):
Stop firing his gun so that he wouldn't wake a
sleeping baby this offense. Attorney suggesting today their client had
been provoked, and there was.

Speaker 10 (11:35):
A lot of evidence that suggested there was a lot
of taunting from one side towards our client. But we're
not saying that use anybody the right to go through
their house.

Speaker 8 (11:44):
You do that, Orto Peza a Mexican citizen had been
deported four times between twenty nine and twenty sixteen. Will
now get to remain in the country, but under circumstances
he probably never envisioned.

Speaker 10 (11:55):
He knows she'll never get out. He will never live
a life like the one he lived when he in
the free world.

Speaker 8 (12:01):
Yet any kind of life. It's more than his victims
were offered. Prosecutors say budget constraints essentially tied their hands,
forcing them to take the death penalty off the table.
The cost of court aporting attorneys for a single death
penalty trial, they say, quadruple their annual budget.

Speaker 7 (12:17):
I have to be a good steward so I can
get as much justice to as many families as possible.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
All right, folks, this is a masterclass in how you
deal with public issues that are controversial. Before I knew
a deal had been reached in Sanjasino County, relatively small
county north of Houston. Before I knew, several days ago,
I got a message from a friend of mine named

(12:44):
Paul Doyle, and you said, Hey, a district assistant district
attorney in this case, Rob Fryar. They're going forward with
the There's been a deal. They got life. They're not
able to seek the death penalty, and he wants to
talk to you off air or on air. He's willing

(13:05):
to go on the air and explain why, because he
understands that's going to upset some people. My immediate reaction
is that is how you handle issues like this, full transparency,
don't hide.

Speaker 7 (13:19):
Now.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
People can still hate you, but you have the knowledge
that you withstood the fire and you can't help. But
on where I sit on the other side of the aisle, thinking,
if you're willing to come forward and answer questions before
I have them, you're going to tilt my opinion just
to touch, whether I like it or not. Rob Fryar
is that first assistant district attorney in San Jacinto County.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Welcome to the program. Rob. They can't do a death
pened They don't even have good phones. This is terrible.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
He might have hit the mute. Might have hit the mute.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
He might be a very good prosecutor, very good prosecutor,
and just terrible on cell phone etiquette. He's calling back,
Oh my goodness, Okay, this might be uh, this might
be uh.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Could be his.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
Worst moment, could be his finest. I want to want
to reserve judgment, Ramon want a reserve judgment?

Speaker 7 (14:16):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
I received probably thirty great recommendations on the song to play.
If we did do a public execution of this little guy.
You know, look, it wouldn't be the worst thing if
Francisco or Apesa was accidentally released.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
You know what I'm saying, that's him, and then we
could handle it from there.

Speaker 7 (14:34):
All right, all right, Rob, good morning, yes sir?

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Okay, First, I gotta know what just happened?

Speaker 7 (14:40):
Did you?

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Did you? Fat finger? The I was on I don't know.

Speaker 7 (14:44):
I don't know. Michael Waugh was on my landline and
if something happened, so I just picked it back up
and called you on my cell phone.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
What is a landline?

Speaker 7 (14:53):
I don't know. Up here in say Center County, we
still use them from time to time.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
I honestly do not have a landline in my life.
I'm not even joking. We don't have one hit the studio.
I don't have one at home. I can't imagine.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
It's old, fraudy here.

Speaker 7 (15:06):
It was sitting on my desk when I started working
here three years ago, so I haven't gotten rid of it.
But I'm on my cell phone right now. And happy
to answer whatever questions.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
I don't know how much you heard of what I said,
but I will say this, I may hear it at all. Okay,
I may enough disagree with you, but I respect the
fact and applaud the fact that you took a positive
approach and said, Hey, I'm going to make myself available
to answer your questions on air or off air, because
I fully understand the anger over this, and we covered

(15:35):
this story a lot when it when it happened, and
so for that, I give you a lot of credit.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Now, hang tight, he.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Just got a cell phone. He's probably still paying for minutes.
Remember when you first get a cell phone, you're like, oh,
you call me, I don't pay for minutes.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Hold on you. I want to go back to one
of these women.

Speaker 7 (15:51):
Are chief Mary Man?

Speaker 1 (15:53):
I think that there might.

Speaker 7 (15:54):
Be, because I got nothing going on down there.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Probably loved you to do it show. He's an assistant
district's attorney. How does this fit with the theme of
having you on?

Speaker 5 (16:12):
Oh the do do is di died dot oh da ah?

Speaker 2 (16:17):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (16:18):
My bad.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
Singularly most awful song you could have played to set
the mood, But there was a da da d a
DoD dot. You know what, there was a method to
your madness, and yes it was madness, okay. First Assistant
District Attorney Rob Fry Sanjacino County has been commended for
reaching out to us that in this case of this

(16:42):
bastard that they are not seeking the death penalty. They
did accept a life sentence. Uh, And that was a
financial consideration. Rob first of all, lay out what those
numbers would look like.

Speaker 7 (16:57):
Well, mister Jillon, of who are elected DA and I
spoke to the media at length yesterday and basically we
wanted to make this more about the families. Had it
come down to the families of these five victims being
vehemently objecting to this, we would have found a way
to go forward. But we are a very small county

(17:17):
northeast of Houston with a limited budget, a limited indigent
defense budget, And when you have a case involving seeking death,
you have the need for the defense to hire mitigation
experts and jury consultants and getting three attorneys, and that
involves trips between here in Mexico back and forth, and
that it would have been a tremendous burden on the county.

(17:38):
And I want everybody to be well aware that we
vetted this decision. We took it very seriously. We did
not take it lightly, and we vetted this decision very thoroughly.
And all of the victims family members speak they don't
speak Ay, they speak Spanish, and I was able to
communicate with them throughout, and they all had my cell phone,

(17:59):
and I've been in constant contact with all of them
for the last twenty one plus months and reaching this
decision that had their full approval.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
It's frustrating because the underlying, the underlying frustration is at
the end of the day, that for instance, is a bastard.

Speaker 7 (18:20):
He's a terrible, despicable excuse of a human being, and
as are the people that were there yelling support for him,
who are also intimidating the grieving family members of our victims.
It's terrible, and where nobody wins in a situation like this,
nobody situation.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
What were they doing?

Speaker 3 (18:38):
I mean, I'm assuming they were screaming what they were
screaming in Spanish, But what did that look like?

Speaker 1 (18:42):
In fact, you can report on it.

Speaker 7 (18:44):
Yeah, I know, it's it's over, so I can say whatever,
it's it's dirty, looks, it's sneering, it's whistling, it's cat
calling at victims who were there to give victim impact statements,
who are trying to shut the chapter of grieving the
brutal murder. And I take exception to the defense saying
that he was provoked. Number one, The only source of
that information is the five time murderer. In two he

(19:08):
shot a nine year old kid defenseless. Todd and I
were there at the scene. There were no drugs, there
were no guns in that house, and he had to
barge through a door to shoot two of them. So
he can take that defense and shove it.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Since you will to try this case, why don't you
take one hundred and twenty seconds and walk me through
what happened that evening.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Okay, see how good you are?

Speaker 7 (19:34):
Hey, this isn't a trails end. As a southeast subdivision
that has a lot of crime, a lot of problems
in southeast sanjusen A County, we neighbor liberty in Montgomery County,
there had been a dispute between the neighbors. Evidence would
have come out that Oropesa was very intoxicated that had
been shooting guns off earlier. They went over there, Hey,
we have a baby here stopped shooting. He kept shooting,

(19:56):
went over there, barged through the front door and killed
a man and a woman right there in the doorway,
killed a nine year old kid who was still alive
when the first deputy got there, and then two more
women in the left bedroom. Five people at least by
our account, fled out the back door. We got there,
we got to call mister Dylan, and I got to
call Todd was there first because I was down in

(20:18):
surf Side at the time, And we drove straight back
and we're there at nine o'clock in the morning, and
Todd and I have never ever seen as much blood
and as much violence as I have seen in my
twenty eight years doing this. He fled, obviously, there was
a multi agency task force that ended up arresting him
in Cut and Shoot, about five ten miles away without
incident that Todd and I then sat down with the family,

(20:42):
with the rangers, with the detectives and went through everything,
and we decided to seek the death penalty. Well in
doing so, which is a decision hard enough in and
of itself, there are harsh realities with doing that, and
we came face to face with those I wish we
had Harris County's resources. I wish we did. I don't
want that to serve as an excuse or a justification

(21:03):
for what we did. There was no question about gil
he confessed. He confessed. So the question was then dealing
with the future danger issue in mitigation and punishment, which
is where we were having a hard time, A much
harder time, because getting information from Mexico criminal history, et cetera.
It's extremely difficult, if not impossible. So we went through

(21:26):
everything and it was either try this case and not
try another jury trial for three years, or get this
result that the family was at peace with. Basically, that's
I don't know how many seconds of one hundred and twenty.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Ye've it was ten seconds.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
But you also went through a lot of a lot
of the courtroom drama. So that I give you, you got
to it pretty fast. I want to rewind and I
want to focus on something. So this bastard charp, This
bastard's fired off his gun and they say, hey, come on,
stop kids and all that. So I want to get
this step by step. He kicks down their door.

Speaker 7 (21:57):
We I there was some form of forced entry because
they did have a video in place. There that was
only there in real time, meaning there was no recording
of it. So they saw him coming.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Okay, they were sitting ducks, all right. So he he
forcibly enters in some form or another.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
And when he first enters within the four walls of
that room, yeah, kills how many three in that first
one Mama, daddy and I.

Speaker 7 (22:26):
Don't I can't list exactly. I know that the little boy,
Daniel was killed right there. He was still alive. He
actually died in transmit transit to the to the hospital
in Liberty County. One thing that people don't know about
sanue Cino County. We do not have a hospital. We
do not have an intensive care, we don't have an er.

(22:47):
So if you are injured in this county, you're going
to the closest medical facility, be a Conroe, Regional, Livingston, Kingwood,
wherever it might be. We don't have a hospital.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Three die and then he at so there's no self defense, I.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Mean, even if you wanted done. He goes to another
room to kill more people.

Speaker 7 (23:10):
Yes, immediately to the left, there were two women. I
believed one of them was twenty one. She was shot
in the closet holding.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Up, so he has to enter another threshold. He can't
argue she came in me.

Speaker 7 (23:23):
No, not at all, and they were all unarmed anyway, yeah, yeah,
and then there were there were no guns in the
house that they located. There were guns in his house.
They located the murder weapon in his house next door.
They got it.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
This guy's an executioner.

Speaker 7 (23:38):
He was that night. Yes, without a doubt. We've never
disputed that. But the family did not want to face
having year.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
I'm not criticizing your dude, I just regardless, long before
you got involved, things happened that you had nothing to
do with it. I think it's important people understood.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Hold on. Rob Friar, assistant mister attorney stas in Okay
telling called these little things clothing for a baby. I
like Madaberry's ship. You're support of all these ones.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Our guest is the first Assistant District Attorney in Santa
Cino County where Francisco or A Pesa massacred executed the
family living next to him in just Sanja, Sino County,
and then went on the run.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
He was apprehended. He's pled guilty.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
They are not seeking the death penalty, and the first
Assistant District attorney made himself available through a future through
a mutual friend of ours named Paul Doyle, and he
said the news is going to break on Wednesday. I
think this came in on Monday, and I'm sure Michael's
going to be very angry that we're not seeking the
death penalty. And that's certainly his right, his prerogative. But

(24:52):
you say it's from home because we're theiz Are. But
I do want him to understand what went into that
calculation and how important this case is to us, and
the finances behind why we made the decision, and the
family's involvement in it. And I loved that fact. I
love when Peter it's a Trump approach. Step up, even
if it's gonna be bad news, step up, face it

(25:13):
and answer the questions. All of that is fine. I
have no problem with this fella over any of that.
I do have a problem with the following, and I'm
gonna leave this to y'all's judgment. Okay, his first name
is Rob, his last name is spelled f R E
y E R.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Okay, after we go through a.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Whole segment, he's had his buddy reach out to me,
who happens to be my buddy, and we've been on
the air and we've emailed. He tells Ramone, it's no
big deal. Everybody gets it wrong. But just so he
knows my last name is. Now, how would y'all pronounce
f r E y e r? And he says Frayer
and I will I'll buy in. Okay, you don't have

(25:53):
to do the death penalty. I got it, you could
do this, but I'm not calling that Freyer promo you
yes or no.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
I don't know who.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Came out with Frayer somewhere along the line, maybe at
Ellis Island.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Rob, how do you get Freyer out of f R
E y e R?

Speaker 7 (26:08):
I don't know. I just thought you who came up
with them when I was born? Uh, they probably came
up with it when they came across the Atlantic Ocean
back in the eighteen forties, noranded in Savannah from Dresden, Germany.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Okay, I think Friar sounds like like he fries people.
This is m fries people.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
He's a friar one, and then you get like Friar.

Speaker 7 (26:31):
I've heard them all, from Friar to ag Rob. I've
heard plenty of nicknames over the years, but Dresden, Germany
was where my dad's family came from.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
I bet they said Friar, truth be told.

Speaker 5 (26:43):
Maybe you know a lot of R E I R.
I'm not sure I'm gonna do some work, Rob Freyer.
I'm gonna say Freyer because you asked nicely. But it
just seems like it just feels like Friar is a
better stage. And here's a fre oh man who got
the case. Oh you got, you got the guy. It's

(27:04):
not his nickname, it's really his name is Friar. You
do not want you know why I call him Fryar
because he fries people. Yes, yes, you should plead the life.
You do not want to go to trial against this guy?

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Right that also ought to say, Hey, I'm gonna milk
you for every dollar I got, or the taxpayer for
every dollar I got. You don't want to go to
trial on this guy. Fryar will fry you, but I'll
call you Rob Freyr for the purposes of here, how much?

Speaker 1 (27:26):
What do you doing?

Speaker 10 (27:26):
You?

Speaker 9 (27:30):
Is this you?

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Inmate eighty four accused of trying to kill prosecutor Yes
Brett Liggan Sireta Kenfield allegedly sought to have him attacked oh,
you used.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
To work for Brett.

Speaker 7 (27:43):
I did thirteen years. Wow?

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Okay uh charges of solicitation of capital murder and solicitation
commit aggravated assault on a public servant. H Kenfield told
other jail inmates of her plans to seek someone to
kill Freyer.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
And attack lig him. How come you get killed and
Brett only gets attacked.

Speaker 7 (28:04):
Because it was right around the time that happened where
that nut job up in Kaufman murdered the DA and
his wife, and she didn't want to draw any more heat,
so she just wanted to put Brett in the hospital
and kill me for the tune of five grand. That's
all I was worth on the market to this way.
He was five thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yeah, and but twenty five hundred for Brett.

Speaker 7 (28:27):
Yes, a hospital job for twenty five hundred, and murder
for me. Unfortunately for the for her, she was broke,
and she was also talking to an undercover police officer
that was on her visitation list. So the entire hit
was done from jail and it was recorded.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
It was a so he didn't agree to you.

Speaker 7 (28:45):
Oh, he did agree to kill me, and then they
fake arrested him. It was it was perfect and then
showed her the vio of him being you know, quote arrested.
She confessed, and then they asked her after they booked
her in on the new charge, that she had any questions,
and she said, yeah, can you get me a better
mat for my it's too hard. See, if she hadn't.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Been so cheap and she'd offered a little more money,
he might have actually broke character and done it.

Speaker 7 (29:09):
Maybe. I mean, he was a full time Harris County
DA investigator with a good retirement, so I think I
think he played the part and did a good job.
And yeah, it was probably the dumbest hit job ever
and I was the recipient of it.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
I was speaking to the San Jacino County Republican Party
the Saturday night the guy. I think all this happened
on a Saturday, and the guy was still on the
run at the time, and I was scheduled to sit
at the table with the sheriff and a wonderful family.
The Ares Pays out of Kingwood had written the check

(29:45):
to cover my fee, and I was speaking on Saturday night.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
My brother was being honored in Austin the.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
Next day for officers that died, and so we finished
the speech, drove to Austin. Uncle Jerry drove me, drove
to Austin, got up early next morning, and then they
had the event. I remember this like was yesterday and
uh I remember that guy had gone on the run
and I remember the fear. I don't know how long
was he on the run before before they caught him.

Speaker 7 (30:11):
I think it was five days. Okay, it happened on
a Saturday. I think Thursday evening was when they found
him hiding in a laundry room and under a bunch
of clothes in a house in cut and Shoot, which
is about it.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
It's hot.

Speaker 7 (30:28):
Cut and Shoot is east of Conroe, between Conroe and
Cleveland off of one oh five. That's where they found
him in Montgomery County.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah, you know what, I do remember it being Montgomery County. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Okay, did they send in Rockton or one of the
German shepherds to get him or how'd they find him?

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (30:45):
The dog, the dog didn't get a chance to get
at him. He just up into the Vortac. Guys from
Homeland Security were the guys that located him. They received,
they being everybody, thousands of tips over a five day period.
I mean, I commend all the officers. They came from Beaumont, Bashdrop, Bellville,
they came from everywhere.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Every town starting with a Bee.

Speaker 7 (31:08):
Every town with a B, every town with an A
or aer Well, and they came Yeah, Balager, Bernie, Bville.
They came from everywhere. So we conser hard work as
well well. Rob.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
I appreciate you being willing to come on and explain this.
Obviously our emotion relates to this turd, not to you,
but sometimes we can displace that. I would have loved
for him to have received the death penalty. I think
our system, which is not your fault, is designed to
give him too many rights and to handcuff the victims

(31:46):
and the people who are prosecuting. I appreciate the fact
that you do this for a living, because you could
make more money if you were on asso side of
the aisle than representing the good guys. And obviously you've
done it for multiple counties and you make a lot
less than you could, and so you may not get
a lot of praise every day for the work you do,
but you're going to get it here. So thank you,

(32:07):
first assistant District Attorney. I wasn't the first assistant District
Attorney of San Jacino County Rob Prayer for being a
public servant just like those firefighters and putting this guy away.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
President Trump will speak.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
On the crash last night. We'll go live to that.
Its scheduled to begin in just a minute. It may
start late, but we'll go to it live, pain tight,