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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time. Time time, time lucking load. The Michael
Barry Show is on the air. It's looking into Mica week.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Gotta feed a beard.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I don't plan to shave, and it's you the thing,
but I just gotta see I'm doing all right.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
We'll im make me support me. It's feeding verdictue. That's
a true. It's either drinking, no drug and just snool.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Just turn at right.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
It's a great dead be I know it sounds still
shining in a close eyes.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
It's hard times.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
In the neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
But why can't everything Well, that's it.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
No more football for seven months because I had to
figure out something else to do on Saturday and Sunday
that lay on the couch with the boys watching football games.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Oh well, I guess it's that time.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Houston's Jalen Hurts of Channelview High School the first Houston
area player to ever be named Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Remem about that see.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Eighth time a player from Texas has been named MVP
of the Super Bowl. Patrick Holmes Mahomes, Patrick Mahomes from
White House. I think he won it twice three times.
Nick Foles from of course Austin, Wesley Drew Brees Austin Westlake,
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Von Miller from De Soto and the last one Raman.
Let's see if you can guess this one. This is
one of my mom's favorite players. She was a big
Cowboys fan in the seventies. Not Eric Dickerson, and he
wasn't a cowboy. This player was from South Oak Cliff,
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who's a defensive player for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
You have no guesses. Uh huh, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Me, Me and Joe Green was the steeples and goofball.
Yeah there, you don't have any late seventies. Boy, you
didn't grow up in our household. It was Cowboys all
the time, and I hated the Cowboys. It was not
Hollywood Henderson, it was not Randy White, the Manster. It
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was Harvey mart Harvey Martin was Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I'm not sure what Super Bowl that was. I'm not certain.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
City of New Orleans winning praise for their hosting hospitality
of the Super Bowl. Unfortunately, you've got to deal with heathens.
Not that the City of New Orleans is not adept
at that. For the first time ever, it is believed
the City of New Orleans greased the poles on Bourbon
Street to prevent Eagles fans in particular, from climbing them
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in postgame celebrations. Fox twenty sixth, Philly with the story.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
We do have some breaking news. This is not Broad Street,
this is Bourbon Street. But take a look at this, guys,
you're gonna want to see this back in Philly. They
have greased the poles on Bourbon Street. Look at that.
They're taking a queue from Philadelphia. They have officially greased
the poles here. These are antique street light poles. The
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police say for the very first time they have greased
the poles on Bourbon Street. So maybe they're expecting something.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Maybe they know something we don't.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
But looks like a little bit of Broad Street has
been brought to Bourbon Street.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah. That's something to be proud of, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
The hooliganism of your town, That is something to be
proud of.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Robert F.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Kennedy, expected to be the next Health and Human Services Secretary,
tweeted yesterday Maha, which is make America healthy again tip
of the day Ramon.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
He says, I can't say this enough.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Eat more beef, eat more eggs, drop the carbs, eliminate
processed foods, cook with butter, cut the sugar, drink plenty
of water, twenty minutes of sunlight daily.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Check back with me in thirty days.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Your body will thank you MAHA, which is of course
a take off from Mega Make America Healthy Again. I
bring that up because I found it interesting looking at
the advertisements during the Super Bowl and you figure who's
got the money to spend? You know, when we started,
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I would have to talk about what the goofball program
director at the time would tell me to talk about it,
even if I didn't want to. So you would come
in on daylight today and he would say, talk about
the Super Bowl ads and the this and the this
and the this, because he didn't care anything about politics.
It was just kind of whatever you could string together
to keep people somewhat entertained until your shift was over.
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And I hated it, but it did make me start
looking at the advertisements in a different way. And one
of the things that hit me was how big and
how powerful retail consumer good products are. Because you're thinking
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to yourself, well, who's going to send a message to
me at this time that they're willing to spend that
amount of money, And you realize the people willing and
able to spend that amount of money are mostly retail
consumer goods. And it's interesting because like Doritos, think about
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how many doritos you got to sell, Think about how
many doritos they do sell. But when you think about
the products, the retail consumer good products in this country,
particularly food rel kind of food based, because it's questionable
whether it's food at all, and you think about how
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they've changed over the last twenty five years, and eventually
Americans have wisened up to that. Think about what a
sea change it's going to be for those people, because
if the everyday American starts making minor adjustments in what
they eat and alternatives to what's available on the shelves
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at the grocery store, talking about hundreds of billions of
dollars between processed foods alone fast food and what they've
you know, changing to you don't change to beef tallow.
Somebody is now saying that they're cooking with beef tallow.
Do you know who that is? I know it's I
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see you, Okay, some some restaurant, uh Shake Shack, Shake Shack,
That's exactly right, that's Danny Meyer. Shake has announced that
they are cooking with beef tallow. Does it make a difference.
I don't know. I think that that adding salads for
burger joints was one of those things they did to
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keep from being criticized. I'd be interested to know how
many salads they actually sell. But if people actually made
a few basic changes, you realized it would cripple these industries.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
With his finger on.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
The pulse, the king uting continues on the Michael Berry show.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Well, the one all.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
The times check, that's a second, Oh that's dumb. Well,
apparently steak and shake got people's attention on the beef
tallow because I opened my emails and every email.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Was it steak in shake, not shake shack. It's staking shake,
steak in shak. No, you're right, you're right. I was wrong.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
I admitt a few news headlines. Trump flew dec voy
jet amid Iran assassination fears. A little pissant country like
Iran should not be able to saber rattle the greatest
nation on earth. But if you think about how much
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money Obama and Biden handed them to enable to empower
to finance their terrorism. Trump directs Treasury secretary to stop
producing new pennies. President Trump has directed to Treasury Secretary
Scott Besson to stop producing new pennies. It has been
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the case, I forget it's probably twenty years, maybe longer,
that it costs more to create, to print, to mint
a penny than a penny is actually worth on the market.
How many pennies do you have on your person right now?
How has it been since you carried a penny on
your person? Do you carry you got that little coin
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section in your truck? Do you carry any pennies in there?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
No?
Speaker 3 (10:03):
It's it's interesting because it's kind of a death of
an era, but that death has been decades into making
My grandfather or overalls. He wear a white shirt and
just basic white T shirt and then overalls underneath it,
and that was kind of his standard attire. And he
would always he had the you know, those things had
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deep pockets. He was a big man, big burley guy,
and he would when he was waiting on something or
stand talking, he would jangle the things in there. And
if you walked into his bedroom after he came home
and he would take everything out of there. It was
just like like in the movies where they you know,
dig their hands into the gold and lift it up.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
He would drop all.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
There were watches and knives and pennies and quarters and
dimes and silver doll I mean, it was a little
bit of everything.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
But it is, you know it is.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
It's one of those things that needed to be done
and nobody would do it. Court blocks Trump from deporting
dangerous illegal aliens to Guantanamo Bay, which brings me to
an issue that many of you are going to have
to cope with, and that is our system has a
series of checks and balances.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
We use them not enough. They use them aggressively.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Everything Trump does, the Democrats are going to fight even
if what Trump has done appears to you to be
the best thing for our country. And if you find
yourself constantly frustrated that the Left is going to try
to thwart him, you're not going to make these four years.
And by the way, these are a glorious four years.
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This is a wonderful time. Enjoy it. But you've got
to stop thinking that somehow the left is going to go.
You know what, you guys were right, I mean, y'all
were right. I'm with you that you're absolutely right. Taylor's
booed during Super Bowl at the If you didn't watch
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the game, The takeaway is this they introduced during the
national anthem. They introduced Taylor Swift and people bowed very
awkward for her. And then they introduced President Trump and
there was a roar, I mean a roar for our president.
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It was quite interesting to see uh NFL fans hate
the new Fox score bug debuted at Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Do you see that? I didn't like that either had
to keep looking for how much time was left.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I'm one of those people that obsessively wants to know
how much time we have left in the quarter and
how many seconds on the.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
On the on the oh heill, my brain's not processing part.
Huh play clock.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Yes, I want to know how much times left on
the play clock, and I'd have to keep searching for it.
Musk alleges public funds fraud of one billion dollars per week.
The fraud that has been exposed pales in comparison to
the fraud that is lurking.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
US AID.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Funding newspapers in our own country, funding the opposition to
administrations they don't like abroad, funding all sorts of programs.
We've got leaders of other countries now stepping forward, feeling
safe now now that what was the guy's name. He
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was an English broadcaster and he had hundreds of children.
He's a pedophile that he had diddled over the years,
you know what I'm talking about. And once he died,
all these people came forward. And it's sort of like
the Trump presidency has ushered in an era where people
feel comfortable talking about these things. You've got world leaders
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now saying that in order to accept the USAID funds,
you had to have transgender this, and you had to
do all this wacky stuff. And they didn't like it,
but they took it because they wanted billions of dollars
when you just take Usaid. And then next he's taken
on the Pentagon. Do you realize how many billion dollars
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are wasted at the Pentagon? I don't because the scale
there's a bigger opportunity for fraud, and it's going to
be enough to turn your stomach.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
And you know what they're gonna do, is this how
this game works.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
They're going to roll the John Boltons and a bunch
of retired generals who are useless, if not downright fraudsters,
and they work for all the little think tanks, and
the think tanks were funded by the defense industry by
the people who sell overpriced products to the government.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
This is all.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
There's a circularity to all of this. And these these
defense companies pay the think tank. The think tank puts
a guy on got all the brass on and then
and then they book him on Fox and everywhere else.
And you're gonna get a bunch of guys who are gonna.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Go, yeah, I have a three star, two star, I'm
on this. I'm gonna that.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
And what Trump is doing is making our nation unsafe. Well,
how how is it the case that's spending hundreds of
millions of dollars on overpriced coffee and coffee cups? How
did that make our nation safe? Do you think that
the soldiers in the field, the marines in the field,
the sailors on our ships, the airmen. Do you think
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that the quality of sushi they're eating back at the
Pentagon is making us safer? Because it's not. But again,
this is the human shield. This is this is the
way these people position these things. The screeching at usaid
is poor children in third world countries will starve to death.
Less than one percent of the money spent was on
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poor children in third world countries.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Trump Cartland to Walmany and all Greek cities in between.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
The Michael Berry Show is nichwide. Will I nevervent.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Jimmy Savills his name that was that was a pedophile
and doing it in broad daylight. It was one of
those things that nobody wanted to talk about, but everybody
knew they were murmurings. They made a documentary about him,
and they they brought it up, and he was so
uncomfortable about the whole thing. Jeffrey Wrights are you were
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talking about minor changes we can make living in chronic
pain and dredging through the complex and exhausting world of
pain management in America. I decided to make a few
changes to see if living cleaner would help. Six months ago,
I quit smoking and began eating healthier. No fast food,
no processed food, no box nor packaged food, no sugary drinks.
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Thirty days ago, I gave up alcohol. I was a
daily drinker white wine and a lot of it. Though
I know results take time. To date, there has been
zero improvement in my pain levels, but I have dropped
twenty pounds and I've lowered my blood pressure by forty points.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
So I guess that's when Mike writes.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Greasing the Poles is an annual celebration in the French
Quarter on the Friday before Fat Tuesday. They don't typically
grease utility poles, just balcony poles. My wife and I
took her elderly aunt and uncle to New Orleans for
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Southern Decadence years ago because her son, Roger was starting
college at Tulane, and I think that was the they
were greasing the polls and it was a little awkward
for older Indians to see this out out in the
middle of the road.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
I was asked if I would pass along this information, and.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Get asked to pass along a lot of information, and
I generally don't do it because otherwise we'd sound like
a community bulletin board. But this one I'm going to do,
and that is it's an email from the Harris County
Republican Party, but all the local parties will be doing
this says if you ever thought about running for a
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position on the ballot, come learn more judicial candidate informational session.
Over seventy judicial races are on the ballot in twenty
twenty six. If you've ever considered running for judge, this
session is for you. Saturday February twenty second, from ten to.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Eleven thirty am.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
You're not going to remember that, and you're not going
to email me in and me break go break down
the time and send it to you. You'll have to
go to your party Harris County or whatever your party's
website is and do a little work. My thought on
that is, if you're willing to spend enough time to
go figure out when the candidate information meeting is, you're
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already on the right track to being a candidate. Many
people will kind of him in hall and say, you know,
should I run?
Speaker 1 (19:27):
When is it? What do I do? How do I
If you can't figure that out on your own.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
You're wasting somebody else's space, and you're contesting a primary
for somebody that's willing to work hard to do it.
But we need more people who are good people, who
are smart, people, who are hard working people, but mostly
who share our values to run for office.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
And don't let anybody tell you that you're not up
for the task.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I've spent a lot of time in my life around
elected officials, and I can tell you, almost to a person,
they're no different than the average person. Now I'm not
saying they're one of the people climbing the poles in Philadelphia.
That's a bunch of hooligans and goofballs. But your average
person that runs a small business that does most any
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other thing is more than capable of holding these positions
and doing a good job, and that could be you.
One of the problems is that because press coverage determines
interest in races, by the time there is press coverage
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to run for office, the window has closed, the filing
date has passed, and once that happens, ah, shoot, I
should have yes, that is right. The planning and execution
that goes in torunrunning for an office starts when nobody's
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thinking about it, and that is the great advantage.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
The kinds of people who run for office are talking
about planning, organizing, running for office when nobody else is
thinking about it. My first election was November of two
thousand and one. The two year cycle it's now four
years for city council. Back then it was two. The
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two year cycle back.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
In those days meant that the election in nineteen ninety
nine for Houston City Council finished the November election and
then in December. Some of you will remember Lee Brown
had served two years, sorry, four years, he'd beat Rob
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Mossbacker in nineteen ninety seven, he had token opposition in
ninety nine. In yeah, ninety nine and sorry, he beat
Rob Mossbacker. So he's up for his third term. And
so Lee Brown is being challenged by Orlando Sanchez, hotly
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contested race.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
People did not like Lee Brown, but.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
It's hard to dislodge a sitting income up because they
have all the financial advantage. So Orlando Sanchez, who was
on city council the time, runs for mayor. The fire
department had been off of parody with the police department,
so they were furious for good reason.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
And then nine to eleven happens.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
You could not have planned it better for Orlando Sanchez
that at the early November election, just before the early
November election, you have nine to eleven happened.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
No, that would be one, that would be O one.
I'm getting ahead of myself.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Well, in any case, ninety nine in ninety nine, Lee
Brown has token opposition.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
There aren't any real interesting races on the ballot.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Two weeks after the election, I've already started forming my
team for two years out for my campaign. And Julie Mason,
who's still a political reporter or commentator in DC.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Was the political reporter for the Houston Chronicle.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
And she calls me and says, oh, there's a story
that you're running for city council.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Who are you? So I told her who I was.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
She had some kind of smarmy comment that I was
kind of full of myself or proud of myself.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, I mean if I'm not, who will be?
Speaker 3 (23:34):
And she said, how do you You're running citywide and
you're a Republican. The Republican's never won citywide. I said, okay,
and it was. The seat was known as Sheila Jackson
Lee's seat, not officially, but that's what everyone knew it as.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
When I would go and meet with lobbyists.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
They would say, at Sheila Jackson Lee's seat, at a minimum,
that is a black seat. And I would say, hmm,
that doesn't sound like the Houston spirit to me. She said,
how are you going to get your name out? And
I said, I'm going to raise five hundred thousand dollars.
Nobody ever raised five hundred thousand dollars At that point,
Gordon Kwan had raised four hundred and that was unheard of.
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So when she wrote the article about you know, people
are starting to talk about the next two year cycle.
This person, this person, and you know this person's going
to move off and run for Congress.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
This person's going to do this, this person's going to
do this.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
And a newcomer named Michael Barry says he'll raise five
hundred thousand dollars a princely sum, suggesting I couldn't do it, Eli,
I did o Lian Chad.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
N Aloha very show.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Talking about spare pennies, Laura writes, in nineteen eighty, my
high school boyfriend and I cashed in our coin jar,
a big glass water cooler bottle that we'd been throwing
our spare chains through high school, and had about four
hundred dollars in coins, with about fifty percent of it
being pennies. We invested it in the stock market in
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the stock of my dad's refinery company in Galena Park, Pasadena,
Glena Park slash past the Pasadena In a year and
one month, our value had doubled. We cashed it in
for about eight hundred and fifty dollars and noted that
it was a long term gain, less owed to government
for capital gains. We were twenty and twenty one years old.
We were married in November of eighty two. In this
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penny fund paid for our honeymoon in Acapulco, a big
trip for two high school grass from Glena Park. I
still collect loose change and cash it in and will
either donate it to a special charity like Bags Day
One Bags which benefits foster children in foster care or
Camp Hope, or I give it to someone with a
great or urgent need. I also save every ten dollar
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bill I receive for change. You don't get many tens
lots of fives, so saving the tens doesn't break my
cash spending fund money fund. When it gets to one
thousand dollars or more, it's time to do the same
or to fund something special my husband and I've been
wanting to do. But don't spoil ourselves with more than that.
It's the charity gift. Have a great day, Laura Hillsmeyer Manse.
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That's a good story. There is a story in the
Wall Street Journal today about It's entitled It's an editorial.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
New Jersey reaps the Wind again.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Shell has backed out of a wind energy project despite
huge subsidies. It's finally coming to pass. It only required
the passage of time. The solar projects are pulling back,
the wind projects are pulling back. None of them were
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market based projects, none of them, not one. It was
never the case that it made good financial sense based
on the production of energy to spend money on wind
or solar. Deals only made sense because of the artificial
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input of government subsidies.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
No one wanted it. The deals were being driven by
the subsidy.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
When you end the subsidy, you end the deals, and
in this case there were subsidies still available.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
But they see the riding on the wall.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Shel sees that the long term impact of wind on
the production of energy is negligible. And by the way,
Tea Boone Pickens with his foolish ass pushing that crap
all over Texas. How many people have to drive the
beautiful planes of Texas and see those stupid windmills that
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have caused nothing but problems, Nothing but problems. But the
Wall Street Journal has another editorial which I don't care for,
and it says.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Afghan allies in the dock.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Trump's refugee order blocks those who helped the US mission.
This is like saying that all the usaid money goes
to poor third world children.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
This is like saying that the reason you.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Can't outlaw abortion is women are going to die if
they can't have an abortion.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
And you have all these women who were brutally raped and.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Didn't realize they were pregnant until two hours before they're
giving birth, and if you don't let them have an abortion,
they're going to die. And that's how they pitch it,
and they even find someone to claim that's their situation
and that's why we can't have abortion. This is exactly
what they do with things like this. They say, these
people in Afghanistan, they helped our men, our service members,
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they helped them, and we can't turn.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Our back on them.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Twenty years from now, we'll be importing Afghans and they'll
be telling us can't turn our back on them. Well,
first of all, in almost every one of these cases,
you don't know if that person helped us or harmed us.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Number one.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Number two, I don't think we bear the responsibility when
we go into a country to repatriate the people in
that country who help us while we're there in this country.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I don't believe we do.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
And third, do you know how many terrorists we have
on American soil? Who were here sold to us on
the premise that that's the people who helped our service
members while they're there. Our service members have fond memories
of people who saved their lives. Who doesn't know the
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story and loan survivor where Marcus has crawled practically to
death and this guy takes him and drags him back
to his village and the village defends him.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
And that's what's.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Used a case like that to pitch bringing the Taliban,
Isis and every other terrorist to this country. That isn't
the person who helped our men. This is what happens
when you entangle yourself in other people's wars where you
have no business being. The number of Iraqis, Afghanis, and
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in all sorts of other places that we have had
to bring into this country or felt like we had
to have, we don't have to do that. Why don't
we help them rebuild their own country. Why don't we
send some people to teach them engineering and commerce and
logistics instead of importing those people here? Because that is
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a long term fool's errand absolutely positively long term fools
Errand I want to shift years for a second, because
I had a friend in the restaurant business, tell me
they were broken into I have been asking friends around
the region how their business is, how did you close
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twenty twenty four and how does that compare to years before?
And almost everybody was down in twenty twenty four election year.
People are scared to spend money, consumers especially scared to
spend money because if we had four more years of
the Democrats were holding we're hoarding our cash. Remember that
Dave Chappelle's seen where he's holding the cash on his chest.
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People were scared. They were absolutely horrified that we were
going to have four more years of this, and those
four years had taken such a toll.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
It's not just the restaurant business. Retail. Retail has absolutely suffered.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
And the problem is going to be that until interest
rates are pushed lower and we're not the fat is
saying they're not going to do that, although oftentimes that's
the opposite of what they end up doing. Interest rates
being what they are now, it's not just it's not
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just homes, it's automobiles.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I mean, people go into gallery.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Furniture by a house full of furniture and they finance that. Now,
we would love for people to walk in and pay cash.
But that ship has sailed. The exuberance of the American
consumer and the high flying American economy was predicated for
quite some time.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
On borrowing, and people tell me.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
In every industry, in every single industry, that these interest
rates make it impossible, and that it's not going to
be until we see those interest it's get down below
five that we're going to see the economic boom, which
is frustrating for Trump because he's doing all the right
things and cutting the spending will go a long way.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
In fact that long term that's the most important thing.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
But in the short term, if we don't see interest
rates drop, you're going to hear the Democrats be able
to say that the economy is
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Not rebounding, and to some extent they'll be right.