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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. So
Michael Verie Show is on the air. You folks are
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so awesome. You allow us an expansive reach that a
simple radio program would not be able to achieve. I
always wanted to be so much more than that. I
think we've accomplished that and are continuing to expand our
reach and influence. But that's because of you. Because you're
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in every sinew of society. You're all over the country,
you do all sorts of things. There's never a guess
that we want that we can't get because somebody is,
that person's married to, that person's cousin, or went to
school with him.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Why it came up, but last week someone mentioned maybe
it was a reference to the Bible. I don't know
what it was, but somebody sent me a message mentioning
David Klingler. And Klingler and I were at the University
of Houston the same time. I was student by president.
He was a star quarterback first round draft pick ninety
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two went to the Bengals, and I was a fanatical
Cougar football fan. In fact, as a student by President,
the university gave us a suite at the astronomt which
was pretty cool. It was the Dome Dome. It was
actually the Dome back then. And those are some great
years for uh andre Ware and then David Kleingler and
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his younger brother Jimmy. But anyway, somebody said David got
a PhD in theology.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
And he is.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
He has a ministry in Brinham, and so I put
it out there that I would like to connect with him,
and turns out a number of you know him, and
so we connected over the weekend, just before the weekend,
and we're going to be visiting on the air about
his ministry. Spend a little time on his website. He's
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got a podcast called teach Me the Bible, and you
can learn more by going to teach Me the Bible
dot com. I like the approach because it's sort of
the Rush Limbaugh approach to talk radio. It is very
accessible and accessible is everything. I've told the story before
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that I studied in law school every day after class
in the Jojamail library. Jo Jamail was known as the
King of Torts when he when he got the biggest
verdict ever at I believe ten billion dollars in the
Exxon Texico deal and jo Jamail. It was a jury
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I think it was in ov later, but it was
a jury trial. And he made fools of the Texico
lawyers as being big fancy New York lawyers, wearing expensive suits,
using big words, with lots of charts. And I'm going
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to oversimplify a touch, but not by much when I
tell you that his argument to the jury was, you know,
these big fancy New York lawyers, they come in here.
Look at how many of them there are. They're the
best that they all went to Harvard and Yale and Stanford,
and they're fancy, and they fly on private jets, and
they got big words and big grafts and charts and
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words and contracts and all these different things to get
you so twisted up you don't know what you're doing. Well,
I'm just a country lawyer, but I'll tell you this.
What I do know is that this case comes down
to one simple thing. When you look a man in
the eye, you shake his hand, and you say we
got a deal. Do you believe you got a deal?
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Because if you do, you got a rule for my client.
And if you don't, then you must have one of
these big fancy lawyers from New York that flew down here,
all thirty or forty of them, with charts and grass,
and figure out all the ways that they can tell
you that the deal you think you just had wasn't
a deal. Do you have a deal when you shake
a man's hand and look him in the eye, or
don't you? Well? What jo Jamail did is took an
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insanely complicated breach of contract and reduced it to language
and concepts that people that not only didn't go to
law school or practice law, some of whom didn't go
to college, but they could understand that I see on
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television all the time. I see it in print all
the time, probably worse in print. I see it in
the classroom. I see it when I meet people. I
see people who think that they have to demonstrate their prowess,
their intellect, their accomplishment with words that are inaccessible, and
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often they have the use of the word wrong. But
they feel that they have to use big words to
sound smart. And I suppose that when someone uses big
words with them, their reaction is that fella smart because
he's using them big words. But what you find is
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the greatest grasp of a subject is the ability to
take the complicated and make it simple. And that more
than all the other great skills that Rush had, that
was the skill he had. From eleven to two. Every
day students never missed the lecture by the professor, not
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because they needed it for credit, because they learned. And
the ability to make things accessible, you know, the ability
to make the lessons of the Bible are so applicable
to what we do. They're so meaningful that you wish
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it was more accessible to more people. And just listening
to some of what they do. I was very impressed
at this approach. I mean the very title teach me
the Bible, and the very approach to it. It's uh,
it's a very simple and accessible approach. Anyway, I will
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be talking to him if you had a question you
wanted passed along. David Klingler teaches at the Dallas Theological Seminary,
so I think every Thursday, he said, he drives up
to Dallas, which is my idea of hell. I hate
that drive. I love to drive to San anton I do.
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I love to drive. I enjoy driving to Austin. I
love to drive to San Anton. I do not drive.
I do not enjoy the drive to Dallas. I never have,
and I don't I don't think it's I don't think
it's the most glorious of all the of all the
drives that one makes. Anyway, if you have a question
for him, feel free to uh uh to send that
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along this Elon Musk, you know, tell me five things
you did last week. He's done that everywhere he's gone.
And I got to tell you if the I it's
it's a question of accountability. In fact, they're talking about
how many accounts are not responding. That's also a proof
of life there. They believe that a number of these
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accounts and people getting paychecks haven't worked for the government
for a long time. I guess we're about to start
finding out. I mean, it's horrifying the level of waste,
not just corruption, but just waste in our government.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
The girls all get pretty closing time when you're listening
to the Michael Berry.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Show, only two.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
If you don't mind, can't you sit down here beside you.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Cormona and I were Russell Lebarro's guests this weekend at
the Sphere in Las Vegas to see the eagles, or
what's left of them. And I have found No matter
what thing that is hyped a beach, a yacht, a plane,
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an event, if you ask enough people, somebody will poo
poo it because it didn't live up to what they thought,
or it wasn't all that, or people say it's this,
but you know, it didn't really appeal to me. Some
people like to not like something that everybody else likes
because they think it makes them more interesting. I have
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asked everybody who's mentioned visiting the sphere this facility, and
I've never had one person say anything other than unbelievable, amazing, phenomenal,
you name it. So I thought, well, hell, I'm gonna
be the one person. I'm not the one person. It
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was staggering. It was it's hard to put into words.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
We were we were standing outside of the plane yesterday
and it was a there was a Southwest Airlines flight
taking off, and we were talking about imagine being in
some remote Indian tribe you don't know of the existence
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of airplanes, and one of those things comes and drops
right there, and imagine how frightening, shocking, world changing, I mean,
your whole paradigm is. And that's why they always thought
it was from the gods. And not because they can't
be mankin right. It is it is uh. It was
one hundred and sixty thousand speakers, one hundred and sixty
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thousand speakers alone. The sound was so crisp. It it
wasn't the RCC, but it wasn't far behind. It was
that good. Although it was odd because you're watching the Eagles,
who are not the greatest American rock band. That's Leonard Skinner.
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But many people perceive either the Eagles or Aerosmith as
the greatest American rock band. And I think probably most
people would say the Eagles, wouldn't you. I think that
would be for people who know American rock. I think
the most votes would be for the Eagles. Do you agree?
And so here you are watching what many believe is
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the greatest American rock band of all time, and you
find that you're not even looking at them because you're
looking at this screen that envelops you. You're inside this
huge ball, and he goes at times you're looking directly
above you. When has that ever happened? And the quality
of the visuals took ten years, two and a half
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billion dollars to build, and I would love to see
what the numbers are on how many people go to
Vegas primarily for that, and if you add in which
the numbers for this won't be nearly as much as
for the sphere. If you add in Las Vegas getting
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a football team with the sphere, and you just add
those two things alone, I would be I would be
interested to know what the marginal increase in number of
people coming to Las Vegas as a result of it is.
And look, they live and die off of that. They
don't have a native industry per se. It's all tourists
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and you've got to have the latest and greatest, you know,
kitschy thing to get people to go. How long are
they still there? Yep, well till April. So if you're
thinking about going, I would suggest you go. And you know,
I can't imagine the Eagles are going to play that
much longer. I mean, you got Vince Gill singing after
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songs as it is. Don Henley spending most of his
time suing people over the fact that they took one
note out of one song, and so he's spending all
his time in courtrooms making a fool of his old self.
Joe Walsh, poor thing, he looks like. Remember Mason the
guy that was out to get Hannibal Electra. Huh, yeah, well, yeah,
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Mason was the one that he had talked into carving
his face up with the glass, and so he just
had a slip for a mouth and eyes that didn't close.
That's kind of that's kind of Joe Walsh. Now, Joe
Walsh should not have been alive at this point. I mean,
there's just there's no way around that. I would not
have guessed that Glenn Fry would be that would be
the one to die. But all that by way of saying,
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it's an amazing show. It is worth your time. It
is truly special. When we were in Japan, my wife
and kids went to an exhibit and it was similar technology,
but the difference was it enveloped you one hundred percent.
So they walked through the water in one room, you
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took off your shoes and you walked through ankle deep
water and the water under the water the screen down
there had fishing things, and so they kept avoiding the fish,
but you're not really avoiding the fish. There's no fish
in the water. You're just in the water. And then
there were you know, you were out in this marsh
and they filmed. The whole thing was incredible. It's just
it's one of those advancements in technology that is so
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many leaps ahead that it's hard for my brain to
process it. I got an email from Fred who said,
here's what I did last week. I'm an event photographer
and I shot just under forty one hundred photographs at
six different events for five different clients. I culled more
than two thousand images and edited several hundred more delivery.
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I made more than one hundred parents and grandparents very happy,
and I gave their kids something to tell their kids
about in sixty years. What I always tell them. Print
the photos that are important to you. All these photos
that are on your phones, they're more ephemeral than breaths
in a day. If a photo is important to you,
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get it printed. Fred Rogers Photos R O G E
R S NO D. Fred Rogers wrote photos dot com
seven one three eight five one seventy two ninety nine
seven one three eight five one seventy two ninety nine.
You know that's an interesting, uh concept. It was my
dad's eighty fifth birthday last week on the eighteen, and
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so Chance McClain was going to update the heritage film
we did for him on his seventy fifth birthday. So, uh,
my mom before she passed, said, you know, look, I've
got all these photos. I keep meaning to go through them.
Why don't you do it. You're more likely to do
it than I am. So I brought back this big
cardboard box full of photos, and so I went through
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in the photos to to find some photos that we
could update his heritage film with. At the end, we
just do a montage. And there is just something special
about a printed out photo. Because we have so many
photos on our phone, we delete them. There's just something
about a printed out photo. I agree with that it
makes it special. Or maybe that's just that the old
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photos that are meaningful are all printed out.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
And you're listening to this season radio Michael Berry, All.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Right, long, I got a question for you, and you'll
have a couple of minutes to prepare your answer. Okay,
I want you to give me the seven songs.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
For which.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
They're great songs, and you once thought they were great,
and then you just you heard them too many times,
so you push them to the back of your mind.
You push them to the back of your mind to
such an extent that it's almost it's almost what would
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be the word too obvious, too simplistic, too pedestrian to
play that song. It's you have to go deeper because
that song is too obvious to And then you haven't
heard that song or maybe years, and you hear it
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and you listen anew and you remember why that song
is just worlds better than anything else. You know, there
are songs that are good songs, and then there's a
song like Hotel California. I'll make it easy on you,
Stairway to Heaven. I'll make it ease on you. Everything
free Bird did and those songs are are so good
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that you remember nothing else compares to that song. But
I can't listen to it every day. It wouldn't, it wouldn't.
So I want you to give me the seven songs
for which that is true, okay, And it can't be
just a song you like. I'm writing mine out. I
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know you're gonna feel the pressure to put everything that
Freebird did on the seven, but don't do that. Okay.
Let's see. I'm just making notes and we'll do a
take one off and put one on. In just a
moment after his list, joy Reid was fired from MSNBC,
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and as it turns out, that's bad news. You know,
I saw that Jane Fonda is back in the news
for sake saying stupid liberal white woman stuff, which is
what she does. And apparently I'm never going to get
through to some of you, and I don't know why
I tried, but I'm going to do this again. Let
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me explain. The job of the left is to be crazy, Okay,
their job is to be irrational and crazy, And why
you allow that to make you so angry? I will
never understand. Why do you do it? Do you not
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understand their job? Do you go see the Harlem globetrotters
and leave depressed that the Washington generals didn't win? You
do understand that's their job. That's what they showed up
to do. It's a fade a company. It's already set
in stone. That's what's going to happen. It's destined that
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that's what it's going to happen. Do you understand that
for someone to say I don't want to root out
the waste in the government I pay for when my
country is almost bankrupt, they necessarily have to be one
of two things, either crazy or lying. But some of
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you get so upset. Y'all understand this is a game, right,
let me start there. You do understand this is a game.
Never let yourself get so sucked into the game that
you're rooting for the Washington Generals, or betting on the
Washington generals, or depressed that the Washington general is just
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good comment. They never quite beat the Globe trotters. I
think they were cheating metal Lark limit. At one point
he threw a pass, but I think the ball was
attached to a string and the ball came back and
the refs seemed to be, you know, just not right. Yeah,
that's the point. It's all entertainment. They don't believe any
of what they're saying. And by the way, your guys
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don't either. Most of your guys, all these latter day
maga guys that weren't maga before. Ever so often John
Cornyn will pop up and we're gonna do this, this
holy game. He doesn't believe a bit of it, Not
one bit does he believe, not even for a second.
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You got your seven or mone?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
All right?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
What you got? Yeh don't I didn't say seven hundred,
this is the top seven. You got journeys, don't stop
believing in Wow. Seven songs that are incredibly epic, and
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they're so epic that if you were if you had
a party, you wouldn't even play them because it would
be too obvious, Like what do you do? You went
nuclear that you you know? Play erase, don't play? Okay?
Is that on your epic list? Okay? Because that's not okay?
All right, all right, I'm gonna you know what, I'm
gonna let you. Uh uh what do they call it?
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First ball in FBI? First ball in? Hold on, I'm
gonna because you don't warm up, you serve, I'm gonna
do first ball in serve again? What you got yep?
Bheman rahaps he's correct? Yes, Stairway Sarah. Yeah, because the
list is the list, yep, of course, Sweet Home Alabama.
Yeah yeah, it's okay to have two If that was
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my point is that the only band that would have
to is is skinnered?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
All right?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
What else you got two?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
More?
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Okay, you shoot me all night long? Okay, you know
what your list? All right? Go ahead? Well, and I
just you just made it real easy for the take
one off, put one on. Next we did stairway. Mhm,
you got Bahamian Rapsy Free Hotel, California Stairway, Sweet Home, Alabama.
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You shook me all night long? What else that's all
you think of? Wow, you're doing a show. Okay, what
part of the show are you doing? Just so I know?
Why is that so funny? I mean, i'd like to
I'm always curious what are you doing? You know, because
I look over there and you're staring out the window,
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and I'm not so huh oh, you're answering calls. Okay, well, okay,
all right, Well, then first person to add will round
out the seven. You'll have to take it as a
friendly amendment. I'm the parliamentarian here. Seven one three nine
nine nine one thousand seven one three nine nine nine
one thousand. Marcus had a very good idea state credit scores, Zora.
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I was wondering why we don't give state credit scores
the same way the rest of.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Us get one.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Their federal funding can be based on their score. If
you get billions for a rail and don't build it,
you saw what's happening in californ They've now even the
New York Times has admitted that the rail in California
won't be built this century. We're only a quarter of
the way through. That's kind of saying something. Well, I'd
say that's a terrible, terrible borrower and they need to
be restricted. I'm going to tell you something and some
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of you will get butt hurt over this, But it's
the same way if I tell you, hey, you really
don't want to marry somebody that has, you know, felonies
on their record. You got three felonies. Look, people can
make a mistake, but you got you got three separate
criminal events in your life. There's an almost certainty that
you're a bad person. Oh but Michael, I turn my
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life around. Okay, you're the exception. But as a general rule,
and I'll tell you this on that same thing, if
you run a credit report on somebody and they've got
terrible credit, there's an almost certainty that that's a person
you can't trust, just a fact. I've learned it in
my life. I run background checks on everybody before I
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do business with them, and people think that's creepy or
whatever else. People have character patterns, you know, people that
can talk themselves out of paying a bill that they do.
You don't. That's not a trustworthy person like Huberry.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Show Bob All doing right.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
What I accomplished last week tracked in a Microsoft to
do list. I have to maintain a to do list
every day to track all that needs to be done
in what I've accomplished. I start out the day with
a new list, usually from the list I didn't get
done yesterday. If something gets added because of a call
or email, I add even that to my to do
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list and mark it off as I do it. There's
a lot of satisfaction in checking things off. I use
the free Microsoft to do app on my phone and
my PC to track the items. I can always review
everything I've done each day. Stephen Holtz doctor Steve hots
He told me twenty five years ago that if you
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want to ensure that you get something done, write it down.
The act of writing it down has a whole psychological
effect on yourself. You're making a commitment. Thoughts are random,
they're ephemeral, but writing it down is a commitment. And
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if you write it down where you can see it
and keep it, then that's even more important. I had
a realtor that worked in my office in the late nineties,
gay guy, and he was a fitness freak and if
I was on my way to a meeting, and a
lot of times I would like to work while we
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were riding, so I would hop in his car. I
got in this car one time and there was a
picture of a dude's six pack that covered over. Yeah
it's gay. He was gay. I said, he was gay. Yes,
it's gay. I mean, it's hard to insult somebody it's
gay when they tell you yeah, we're gay. So anyway,
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so yeah, it was a picture of six pack and
I said, Michael, what in the hell is that? And
he said, that's my inspiration. I want that by summer.
I said, okay, well, I guess that's a I got
a picture of bluebell ice cream or something like that
on mine. But you know, the point is setting goals,
writing it down. I do do that. I'm a big
believer in the list. Chad's the most organized guy I know,
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Chad KNOCKANISHI. He's got a he's got like a spreadsheet
on a on a binder, a clipped binder like coaches
would carry on the field back in the day, and
it has every day of the week and every task
he has to perform, so that at the and they're
in the order that he has to perform, so at
the end of every day he can look and see
that he checked off every one of those items, so
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things don't just get forgotten. I'm trying to get Emily
to do that, and Emily's gotten better at better at
remembering tasks and writing things down. But when you've got
repeat tasks and you write them down every day, you
have it already printed out, so you have to do
is check off that they're done. You're just going to
accomplish more. It's like Rush said, he didn't he wore
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the same shirt every day, just different different colors of
it and different but he had thirty or forty of
the same shirt and I do the same because he said,
I don't want to waste any brain power figuring out
what I'm going to wear today, because that's brain power
that needs to be focused on my job. There's certain
things I'm going to take out. I'm gona habitualize those things,
all right. Here's Ramon's list real quick. But he me
interrap Steve Freebird Hotel California Stairway, Sweet Home, Alabama, and
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you shook me all night long, which is really questionable
to be that's a bubble call. We still have one
to add to it. Let's go down the list. Scott
your up. Go Actually, I've got a psychedelic furs if
you were here, No, Greg, go, Bob Dylan like a
rolling stone. It's on the bubble, but no bridge it Hi,
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Ron Man, No, I'm not a heavy metal guy. I'm
not a huge heavy metal guy anyway, but several of
you must be because I got that from a lot. Mark,
go ahead. A girl's wild, right when you see a
metal head, that's it's a girl that girl's wild, right there, Mark,
go ahead, I got the song, Michael, Sweet Caroline. That's
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a pop song. David go all right now about free Well, Hey,
I'm in charge here, Okay, you got to contribute. I'm
I'm the referee here. You don't be buzzing stuff till
I announced it. I was trying to think through why
he would even trying to keep an open mind. Seven
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one three nine nine nine one thousand, Adrian, what you got?
I got? Take off a c DC a band and
put on the hell does that mean? What do you mean?
They're not a band? You dropped him? You know what.
That's funny, but you don't do that, you idiot. Now,
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now I'm dying to know what he said. Why would
he say ac Dy's not a band. Ac DC is
not only not a band, they're more of a band
than most bands because they transcended the lead singer who
loses bond Scott and a few months later releases one
of the greatest albums of all time. That's the ultimate
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true band move. A lot of bands are just a
lead singer with some dudes behind them. Kick say, ac
DC is not a band, Terry, you're up? Go ahead, sir,
Peter Frampton. Do you feel like I do M M
good song though? Charlie go huh like we do?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
No?
Speaker 1 (31:01):
No, you can, you don't even need to finish. Phil
Collins can't be on this. Mike go ahead, Mike, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Remote.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Can we get to mone A.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
C D A c DC back in black?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
No?
Speaker 1 (31:17):
But but great song, Ryan go Living on a Prayer. No,
we're not having any Bond Joey on this list. Absolutely not.
Jordan Europe go.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
You look wonderful than that.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
No, it's a great song, but but it wouldn't It
wouldn't make this list. It's just not a top seven song.
But it is a great song. And by the way,
that woman is the subject of three phenomenal songs written
about her. Huh Patty Boyd, Yeah, Patty Boyd. When you
got to figure Patty Boyd was throwing something down that
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was making men crazy to get layla and uh something
and you look wonderful tonight. That woman. There had to
be something about her, something in the way she moves. Oh, Scott,
you're up, go ahead. Maybe it was her what maybe
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it was her grace? Yeah, what's your what's your song? Though?
I got told you Queen's Mama song, but she said no.
The Queen's Mama song was Bohemian rhaps of the You Goofball.
It's already on the list, Glen Cora, You're up, Hey,
I think Bob Seger night moves. Uh, that's not even
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the Bob Seger song that would be on here. But
I'm not opposed to Seeger being in a top twenty.
I love singer. Seeger's probably the most underrated popular artist
of all time. Uh, the most underrated art of all time.
We don't know. Because they're so underrated, we don't think
of them. David, You're Up Go anything by Steve Miller.
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You can't say anything by that means all of their
songs would be the same. Lisa go By, Queen who, Yeah,
we got it on there, Thank you, Jay What you Got?
Molly Hatchett's working with disaster. That's not even gonna make
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top fifty. That's just like if we're doing thirty eight special.
Molly Hatchett like awesome redneck songs for dudes that are
burned out and been to prison. But they're awesome guys, yes,
but they're not making the top fifty. Mike, What you Got,
Janis Jobson, Jannis Joplin, Bobby McGee. Not top seven, but
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but it does. It does check the box on all
those things. Although I tell you, if you ever hear
Chris Christofferson sing it, it'll change that song for you.
Since he wrote it, it'll change that song for you forever.
Adam go ahead, Jordan Locke foot Sundown Man. That's not
a Top seven, but it's going It's going up there somewhere.
Great song. Unknown, What you Got? Just say Oh no.
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Ramon didn't even put the names on the.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Rest of them. He just just sat there, lazy