February 27, 2025 • 33 mins
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's that time, time, Time, Time, Luck and Load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Michael Verie Show is on the air, disturbing allegations about
a Q sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein and members of his
social circle.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Those allegations come.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
From newly unsealed documents from a now settled court case
against Epstein associate Glaine Maxwell. A woman claims that Maxwell
groomed her to be a sex slave to Epstein and
was trafficked to some of his most powerful associates.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
The training started immediately gives Jeffrey what he wants.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
A lot of his training came from gillin herself.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
And being a woman. It kind of surprises you that
a woman could actually.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Let stuff like that happen, but not only let it happen,
but to grooming you into doing it.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
No one knows.
Speaker 6 (01:02):
What it's like to be paid, to be faded, to
all live.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
On empty.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
As my coship scene.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
He's do be He's.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Power players a priority for us right now? Can we
even touch them?
Speaker 6 (01:33):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
It's like everything you know, it hides in plane side.
Epstein was hiding in plane side.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
We all knew about him, we all knew what he
was doing, but we had no one that would go
after him.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
They were afraid of him. For whatever reason, they were afraid.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
The airplane that we flew on for this humanitarian mission
was owned by Jeffrey Epstein. And to then learn, oh,
he was actually on some of those flights and this
Maxwell woman was on some of those flights.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I didn't know him. I've never spent any time with him.
I was with the Clinton Foundation people, That's who I
was with. She told me everything, she had pictures, she
had everything. She was in hiding for twelve years. We
convinced her to come out. We convinced her to talk
to us. It was unbelievable what we had Clinton. We
had everything.
Speaker 8 (02:25):
Zamptysmous to be There's no question executives at ABC protected
Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Why do you think they did that well because their
star anchor's name is George Stepanopolis, And of course George
Stepanopolis worked as Bill Clinton's communications director at the White House.
And when was all of this information being given to
Amy Borbak at ABC? When did she bring all of
this to her executives to say we should put this
on the air. Oh, right before our twenty sixteen presidential action,
(03:00):
when Hillary Clinton was running on the Democratic ticket.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
At the time.
Speaker 8 (03:03):
Amy Robach took this story to her superiors and they said,
I don't know who Jeffrey Epstein is.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
His name was already all over the news. Is a
convicted sexophone.
Speaker 9 (03:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (03:11):
One of the things you've been talking about on your
show is your allegation that government officials are aiding in pedaphelia, child.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Trafficking and the agree of children. All right, well, do
you mean like what Jeffrey Epstein did.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
No one knows what it's like to be the bad man,
to be the sad man.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Behind it is. It is the big bombshell. Everyone is
waiting on the Epstein list who was involved. The girls'
(03:58):
names should never be released or compromised. They are the victims.
But we need to know who was on that island,
who was on those planes, What were they doing there.
I'll settle for who was there, because it's a lot
(04:22):
harder unless you have someone inside to tell exactly what
was happening. You know, we are the world was recorded
in One night, One Crazy Night. There's a documentary about it,
and only Quincy Jones could pull that off because Quincy
(04:43):
Jones has such relationships with the stars. But the reason
It had to be done that night after the big
Awards show. Was it the Grammys after? Yeah? Was because
it's impossible to get at all of those people under
one roof at one time. You just you can't do it.
(05:06):
Every single person on that stage we are the world.
Every single one of them has a touring schedule, movies,
they're in projects, they're on vacations, they're on every single
one of them is a standalone entity. You can't get
their time. It's impossible. They're all an entire industry unto themselves.
(05:33):
But to get them all under one roof only the
fact that the Grammys was so big, and Quincy Jones said,
that's our one shot to get them all here at
one time. If you see the document, how crazy it
was because you couldn't You couldn't keep them even another day.
When you consider what we know of the Epstein trips,
(05:56):
the idea that all of those people would come together
at one time, why because Epstein was powerful, Because Epstein
was rich. Do you know how many rich people they're
richer than Epstein was, Bill Gates? Bill Gates will laugh
at Epstein's wealth, which, by the way, no one has
(06:19):
ever been able to explain where his money came from.
And the suspicion is that it was the Chinese. The
Chinese use honeypots like this. Sex is a thing that
can cause powerful, otherwise very thoughtful, very strategic people to
(06:40):
make big errors, and the Chinese know that. Or maybe
it's another government. There are other governments who've been suggested
as being the source behind Epstein. I believe it's probably
most likely China. Could it be Israel, Could it be Russia.
(07:01):
I suppose it could be any number, not Jaibouti, Ramon.
I don't think it was Jaboti doing this one. I
really really don't think it was JABOUDI. Could it be
in Saudi Arabia? There are countries who engage in spycraft
using honeypots like this, that it would be quite consistent.
(07:24):
All that to say. Pam Bondi said two nights ago
that the list is on her desk for a review
and that some of them would be released today. Now
there is a theory that's floating around in Washington, d c.
Circles and so one gave it to me yesterday. I
think there's something to be said for this, and that is,
(07:44):
if you're Donald Trump, you've got one shot at this
you get to drop it one time, and there will
be members of Congress on that. We know that. I've
had enough rumors shared with me by people close enough
to the situation that there are things that I am
of which I am certain, and one of them is
(08:06):
that there are members of Congress House incident on that list.
If you're Donald Trump, you hold that list over their head.
It's a theory and you go you vote for cash
or I'm burning it. Once you release it. You've released it.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Listen Tom.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Swift, and none of them guess it's so keep could
be that's your one. That's Sam I essay.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Geane Hackman has died, and I don't know what to
make of this, but I will read you the reporting
from Deadline magazine quote actor Gene Hackman and his wife,
Betsy Aracoa have been found dead at their home in
Santa Fe. According to police in New Mexico, we do
(09:17):
not believe al play was a factor in their deaths. However,
exact cause of death has not been determined at this time,
said to Santa Fe Sheriff's Office. Local reports said Hackman's
dog had also been found dead alongside the couple at
their Santa fe Home. Hackman and classical pianist Irakuwa sixty
(09:40):
three had been married since nineteen ninety one. The ninety
five year old Hollywood legend won Oscars four, The French
Connection nineteen seventy one, My Opinion, his finest film, Unforgiven
nineteen ninety two, and was Oscar nominated for role in
Bonnie and Clyde in sixty seven, Never Sang for My
(10:03):
Father in seventy and Mississippi Burning in eighty eight. Hackman
was also celebrated for his portrayal of Lex Luthor in
Superman in seventy eight and its sequel, Superman two, with
other credits including The Poseidon Adventure in seventy two, Scarecrow
in seventy two, The Conversation in seventy four, A Bridge
Too Far in seventy seven, Under Fire in eighty three,
(10:28):
Power in eighty six, Loose Cannons in ninety The Firm
in ninety three, The Quicken the Dead ninety five, The
Bird Cage ninety six, Enemy of the State ninety eight,
Behind Enemy Lines two thousand and one, and Runaway Jury
two years later. He had not been in the public
eye for more than two decades, having retired from acting
(10:49):
after starring in Welcome to Mooseport in four. Hackman was
born in San Bernardino, California, in the thirties in thirty
and held dreams of becoming an actor from an early age.
At the age of sixteen, he lot about his age
and enlisted in the US Marine Corps. Went on to
serve as a field radio operator, spending time in China.
(11:11):
He was discharged in fifty one and studied journalism and
television production at the University of Illinois before returning to California.
Cut his acting teeth at the Passing A Playhouse in California,
where he became friends with Dustin Hoffman. Alongside stage work,
he secured bit roles in the movie Mad Dog Call,
(11:32):
as well as TV series such as Tallahassee seven thousand,
Route sixty six and Naked City. Route or Route Route
sixty six. You're right, yeah, I would normally say route
like Route for Liberty, Mississippi in Amitt County. But yeah,
then I would say route. I lived at Route nine
(11:54):
Bucks nine one to four growing up, which doesn't exist anymore.
Normally say route, but you're right when it's root sixties
To get your kicks on Route sixty six. Yeah, good call,
Thank you for that. Okay, you can go back to sleep.
Continue to take small film and TV roles. Hackman also
spent time on Broadway throughout the sixties, so carrying his
(12:15):
first credited role in Lilith starring Gene Seaberg and Warren Beatty,
and also appeared in the long running show Poor Richard
from sixty four to sixty five. Hackman rose to prominence
in the early seventies after he was nominated for a
Best Supporting Actor Award for his role in I Never
Sang for My Father, and then achieved stardom for his
Oscar winning performance as New York City detective Jimmy Popeye
(12:36):
Doyle in The French Connection in seventy one. And as
we talked about a couple of days ago, Al Copeland
of New Orleans, the late Al Copeland said that he
named the Popeyes Fried Chicken establishment that he began. He
named it not for the cartoon character, but for Gene
(12:58):
Hackman's character in The French Connection. He opened See The
French Connection was seventy one. He opened Popeyes, I believe
in seventy two, so that character was a big deal
at the time now, he did go on to secure
the rights to use the cartoon character in his advertising
(13:19):
for Popeye'es. And in fact, I don't know how long
it's been that Al Copeland has been out of the
Popeyes business. He passed away, but he was a legendary
New Orleanian and quite the character I've heard. I've heard
quite a few stories about his personal life been driven
(13:40):
by his home. He's an interesting cat, to be clear,
But I don't know how long ago he would have
sold out of Popeye's Fried Chicken. You like Popey's or
one I used to like Pope's when I was younger.
It's just Popey's was one of those things that there
was nothing wrong with it. I just never choose to go.
Speaker 9 (14:03):
There, right, But then again, I don't eat fried chicken
from fried Chicken franchises anymore, which is kind of a
which is kind of a hipster thing to say.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Well, I mean, I'll be honest, I'm being honest. If
I'm going to eat fried chicken now, it's going to
be ironically from Barbecue Inn over on Cross Chambers. What
and randalls, yes, yes, And you know, over ten years
ago it was my birthday and we started a tradition,
(14:44):
probably fifteen years ago, and I think this was the
beginning of the tradition. Chad just I don't know. They
didn't warn me, but out of nowhere, Chad KNAKANESI goes
to Randall's and there was a Randalls right next to
our station. Our station at the time was That's Sam
Philippi in sixteen. And after the show, they're acting kind
(15:05):
of edgy, you know, like there's about to be a surprise.
I hate surprises. So the door opens and they come
rolling in and it's the whole team, and Chad's got
a bucket of fried chicken, and it says Randalls. And
the appropriate response, if I wasn't a monster, was to
be grateful and thankful. Wow, these guys, I love them.
I get to work with guys that I really like,
(15:26):
and look at this kindness they've shown me. But if
I'm being honest, that's not what I thought. My thought was, well, crap,
if you're gonna bring fried chicken, why are you gonna
bring fried chicken from Randalls? Oh? Hell, now I gotta
eat a piece. And I did. Holy wow. Thus commenced
our Randall's fried chicken tradition that has extended to this day.
(15:51):
And the reason it's not sou ved. What do they
call it? They do they do a pritt what it's
a pressure coo. They put it in a bag Randall's
fried Chicken at Randall's at six' ten and At Sam.
Philippi it's shockingly, good it's incredibly. Good you don't have.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Called me Whiling, jenny and you don't call Me john.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Cried and you don't and.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Call Me Merle hagard, anymore.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Even though you're own my. Back few days, BACK i
mentioned you turn the phone lines only ONE i got
a woman called. DOWN i mentioned rock songs that you
(17:03):
you heard so many times that you don't even you
don't even put them on because you heard them too many.
Times they've almost become trite because you heard them so many.
Times and then something will. Happen you're in a better
mood to. Receive maybe you're on vacation somewhere and it starts,
(17:25):
playing or whatever. Happens, Hotel california was what spurred that.
Thought and there are songs that you kind of feel,
like oh hold, on.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
And i've seen it all songs.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
WORD i love how he sings on songs WHERE i.
Play can you remind that by that's a? Stretch my name?
Hello in your phone?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Books And i've seen it all songs.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
W AND i was talking about songs that you forget
how good they are because you've heard them so many.
Times and so we made a list of ramone made
a list and it it wasn't actually of all your.
Lifts that was the least worst of all the lists you've.
Made BUT i THINK i gave you seven options AND
(18:23):
i didn't round out the. Seven, well the country wasn't an.
Option BUT i think this and he stopped loving her
today are two songs that you, forget old friend of
my name see.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Couldn't but you don't have to call?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Me DO i like that everybody's seen BECAUSE i know
what they're.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Seeing you never even called me my min.
Speaker 11 (18:55):
Name, well my name Is Steve goodman wrote that, song
and he told me it was the perfect country And western.
SONG i wrotehim back a letter AND i told him
it was not the perfect country And western song because
he hadn't said anything at all About, mama her, trains.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Her, trucks or prison or getting.
Speaker 11 (19:22):
Drunk, well he sat down and wrote another verse to the,
song and he sent it to, Me and after reading,
IT i realized that my friend had ritten the perfect
country And western, song AND i felt obliged to include
it on this.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Album the last verse goes like this, here.
Speaker 9 (19:43):
BUT i was.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Drunk to d my mom guide out of, prison.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
AND i went to pick her up in the right
but before to get to the, station down the pickle she,
got ride the, door the by, dawn the train round
(20:22):
the long as you may like me number, nine even
standing down the. Rain you don't have to call me, darling.
(20:44):
Darling he never even called. Me, WELL i wonder you got,
me don't.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Never that song is a song that when it's, mentioned
you forget to show proper reverence and then you remember
how good it. Is one of my, many, many many
(21:22):
many highlights for WHICH i thank you all so much
of THE rcc Was Dante pastorini held a Super bowl
party in what was that fourteen? Fifteen what year it
was the Super bowl? Here, remember, yeah it was five
because that was When Janet jackson's nipple popped, out and
(21:45):
then it was like fourteen or fifteen something like, That
and So pastorini holds this party that was the party
of all. Parties it was the greatest party we ever
held at THE rcc by, far and The Super bowl
had all their Official Super bowl parties seventeen so The
Super thank, you the Super bowl had all Their Super bowl,
(22:07):
parties and the players and you, know the exes and on.
It they're all contracted to. That but everybody want to
be At pastorini's. Party it came to be revered regarded
by THE nfl, crowd especially the, legends as, oh you're
going to you know so and so probably, Well pastorini's
(22:28):
having a party where place called it a redneck country. Club,
okay supposed to. Be this party's going to be. It
If i'm, Lying i'm, Dying. Ramon i'm walking Along pastorini
at his own party is Going who do you want to?
Meet Bob ley right? There, okay come, on, Hey, bob
Meet Michael. BERRY'S i know Who Michael berry is and
(22:50):
we get to. Talking When Bob lilly knows who you.
ARE i don't know that you can buy a cup
of coffee with, that but you feel, Good Mean, joe
meet my Buddy Michael. Barry blah blah blah blah. Blah,
okay thank, You, yeah nice To you know you're not
you're you're not Nice Joe green for a. Reason, uh,
(23:10):
Mean Joe green Loves Dan. PASTORINI I i have m
Sed Dan pastorini's annual gala In december for Be An Angel,
foundation which is a, wonderful wonderful, charity And Dan sen
is the chairman of. It and Mean Joe green flies
in every year on his own, dime doesn't doesn't want
(23:31):
to be, paid and it's just incredible these to respect
these people. Have see the only time in. History you
won't believe this is, true but it is. True see
the only time in history That Mark, Chestnut Tracy, bird
And Clay walker were on stage together at the same
time singing a. Song the truth Is mark And Tracy,
(23:56):
Well mark Despises, Clay tracy doesn't like, him And clay
kind of feels like it's. Unfair and that's just sort
of the way the way it. Is there's a long
long history of, them The Beaumont, boys and we would
all as fans like them all to get. Along but
So i've Got i've Booked chestnut And bird and they're
(24:16):
And tracy they're on the stage, together And tillman shows
up at our part With playwalker AND i See tillman
And i'm. Walking Hey, tillman.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
How are, you?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Buddy he, said you Know, clay And clay's, like, yes
we go way. Back and then, hey this Is.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Tracy bird AND i tipped my hand to the keeper
The stone and The Salt New york set that posse
down like came of, sing.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Don't, jump thanks, Out i'm being.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Stuff got out of.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Here but it's to night at The Super bowl parties
And chestnut And Tracy burder, performing which to me is
a treat par. Excellence those two, guys they go way.
Back if you don't know the, Story chestnut was the
(25:17):
first guy discovered out Of, beaumont big like that Since George.
Jones there were OTHERS i know who you're thinking already,
there but not on this. Level So chestnut was playing
at a place Called Cutters and my interaction with all
of this was only from a distance because my brother
(25:41):
was working an extra job as security at the. Time
my brother was a great two stepper in loved country.
Music that was something that we shared in, common And
chestnut had what's called a, residency which meant he played.
There usually a residency's one night of but it can
mean that that's your, gig, right it can mean that
(26:04):
that's you, know that's how you pay the. Bills you're
the house. Band, Well chestnut, was AND i think it
was something like every night From tuesday Through, Saturday chestnuts
band played and out of. Cutters he was discovered and
he was invited to what is known As. Showcase and
(26:25):
showcase is where you go To nashville and the record
labels in order to maximize their, efficiency they're all sitting
in the audience and you may have five or ten
artists who will walk out and do two, songs and
(26:50):
if there's a single label there who wants to hear another,
one they'll raise their Hand ARISTA, mca and they'll say
could you do one? More and maybe if they want
to hear your voice in a particular, range they'll, say,
hey do you Know once at A Blue moon By
Earl Thomas connelly In and if you know, it then
(27:11):
they're just trying to see they're trying to imagine you
as an artist on their. Label so the goal at
showcase is to be offered a record. Deal So chestnut
goes out to, showcase kills, it absolutely kills, it and
(27:32):
he's off To. Nashville, Well, nashville be In. Nashville they,
go we want, you but not your, band and we'll
build a band around. You So chestnuts. Off Tracy bird
has a deal at a lesser location around, town and
the owner Of cutter's calls and, says, Hey chestnuts, out
(27:54):
would you come assume his residency and you'll be backed
by his and T bird, said, Yep i'll do, it
so he did. So in relatively short, order those same
guys that came For chestnut came back To. Beaumont they
go To, cutters they're in the audience and he had
been tipped off they were going to be. There so
(28:16):
he's putting on quite the show and they asked him
to come to. Showcase so he does and he gets the.
DEAL a fun. Story the night before, showcase he is
there's a he's single at the, time and there's a
(28:36):
girl that he knew From beaumont and she knows he's
in town and she, says, hey you're in, town let's get.
Together so he takes her to dinner and he walks into.
Dinner if you've never Met Tracy, bird he's a big,
boy played high school basketball and pretty good basketball. Player
but he's a big. Dude HE'S i don't, know six'
two at, a minimum maybe, sixty three and. He's solid
(28:58):
he's got. Big shoulders he, look, like well he's Built Like,
david klingler who we teach Me the Bible, dot com
who we talked. To yesterday he's a. Big boy he's
built on the chassis of Like A, david carr, you
know a. Bigger. QUARTERBACK yeah I think klingler is, a
good good. Analogy there who else would you put?
Speaker 4 (29:20):
In That?
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Josh allen he's built On A josh. Allen. Chassis, Yeah
same it's a different, transmission package but it's the same.
Chassis Anyway So tracy bird is walking into this restaurant
the night. Before showcase so, HE'S like i gotta go to.
BED early i got to be rested up as in
my big Day of marri's my. Big shot and this, girl,
(29:42):
says oh there's fair, and young legendary country. Music Singer so, tracy,
said yeah it. Sure is and he's walking, towards us and,
SHE said i. KNOW him i went on a couple
of dates, with him and, he said he's walking like
he he's A Little Banny Rooster faryn young is a.
(30:02):
Little Guy very young is legendary for his. Temper Tantrums
So fairy young marching up, and, says hey you're with.
My Girlfriend But tracy Bird's Not tracy. Bird yet he's
just some dude in the cowboy hat that. Looks Good and,
TRACY said i stood UP and i tower, over him
and he said. It Again tracy, bird said she's not.
(30:25):
Your girlfriend we Grew up beaumont together and. She in about,
This Time fairy young punches him in the stomach hard as,
he can And t, bird said this guy's probably sixty.
Years old, what now hell You Little Banny rooster and,
he said, thank god because You know houdini died from
getting punched in the stomach, without now thank god the.
(30:48):
LAST minute i tend, st up but it's still a
shot to the stomach that you. Weren't expecting and, he
Said all, I'M thinking i can't, He, SAID michael i
could have crushed. This Guy all i'm Thinking is showcase
tomorrow and you the story is you fought Fair. And young.
You're finished you're finished in. This town Fair and young
(31:10):
is a legend. This town so, he said it was
like it was like the. Little rascals you remember when
when al falf would be, you know he'd be doing
the windmill punches and just hold him back by. His,
head well so that's. What happened and my orange were
lowering HIS and i just held him off of me
by his head and he's steady windmill trying to. Punch me,
(31:31):
he said it'd be FUNNY if i wasn't. So worried
so fast forward the next day Showcase t bird gets.
Multiple offers, that night he's at dinner with the label
he accepts the deal from and he tells them the
story and he goes guys in case it, gets around
and you Know, in nashville you know. WHAT happened i
(31:52):
want you all To know I'm not i'm not gonna
come to town and try To Fight roger Miller And
ray Stevens And chad Atkins and George jon this. Just
happened it wasn't. My fault and the head of the record,
label said, HE said i don't want y'all to think
less of me or to have a problem. With me
and the head of the record, LABEL said i have
a problem. WITH you i wish you to knock, him
(32:12):
out and, he. Said oh, he, Said oh Fara and
young has got, a terrible terrible reputation in. This, time
Well apparently Fara and young would call Up the cadillac dealership,
And say i'll be over in. An hour want y'all
to have The finest cadillac, you got like He, was,
elvis right except he didn't pay, For it and So
(32:34):
the cadillac, dealership, said, uh, no no you don't need
to show up over. Here anyway So So tracy bird,
goes off and to, their credit Neither t Bird nor
chestnut Ever. Left beaumont they stayed true to where they
were and who they were that, whole time which is
(32:54):
pretty cool and. Small World mark chestnut's wife's Name is
Tracy And CLAY walker i don't believe he ever Moved.
To nashville he Was, from viider which is Not, exactly
beaumont but it's basically a Suburb. Of. Beaumont now viider
today is just white people that didn't want to Live
in beaumont because the schools went, to hell so they
(33:15):
Moved to vider because. It's safer, so anyway there We
are pastorini's PARTY and I see tillman and he's got,
clay wood and he doesn't love clay and, iron buddies
so
It's that time, time, Time, Time, Luck and Load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Michael Verie Show is on the air, disturbing allegations about
a Q sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein and members of his
social circle.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Those allegations come.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
From newly unsealed documents from a now settled court case
against Epstein associate Glaine Maxwell. A woman claims that Maxwell
groomed her to be a sex slave to Epstein and
was trafficked to some of his most powerful associates.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
The training started immediately gives Jeffrey what he wants.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
A lot of his training came from gillin herself.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
And being a woman. It kind of surprises you that
a woman could actually.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Let stuff like that happen, but not only let it happen,
but to grooming you into doing it.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
No one knows.
Speaker 6 (01:02):
What it's like to be paid, to be faded, to
all live.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
On empty.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
As my coship scene.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
He's do be He's.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Power players a priority for us right now? Can we
even touch them?
Speaker 6 (01:33):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
It's like everything you know, it hides in plane side.
Epstein was hiding in plane side.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
We all knew about him, we all knew what he
was doing, but we had no one that would go
after him.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
They were afraid of him. For whatever reason, they were afraid.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
The airplane that we flew on for this humanitarian mission
was owned by Jeffrey Epstein. And to then learn, oh,
he was actually on some of those flights and this
Maxwell woman was on some of those flights.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I didn't know him. I've never spent any time with him.
I was with the Clinton Foundation people, That's who I
was with. She told me everything, she had pictures, she
had everything. She was in hiding for twelve years. We
convinced her to come out. We convinced her to talk
to us. It was unbelievable what we had Clinton. We
had everything.
Speaker 8 (02:25):
Zamptysmous to be There's no question executives at ABC protected
Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Why do you think they did that well because their
star anchor's name is George Stepanopolis, And of course George
Stepanopolis worked as Bill Clinton's communications director at the White House.
And when was all of this information being given to
Amy Borbak at ABC? When did she bring all of
this to her executives to say we should put this
on the air. Oh, right before our twenty sixteen presidential action,
(03:00):
when Hillary Clinton was running on the Democratic ticket.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
At the time.
Speaker 8 (03:03):
Amy Robach took this story to her superiors and they said,
I don't know who Jeffrey Epstein is.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
His name was already all over the news. Is a
convicted sexophone.
Speaker 9 (03:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (03:11):
One of the things you've been talking about on your
show is your allegation that government officials are aiding in pedaphelia, child.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Trafficking and the agree of children. All right, well, do
you mean like what Jeffrey Epstein did.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
No one knows what it's like to be the bad man,
to be the sad man.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Behind it is. It is the big bombshell. Everyone is
waiting on the Epstein list who was involved. The girls'
(03:58):
names should never be released or compromised. They are the victims.
But we need to know who was on that island,
who was on those planes, What were they doing there.
I'll settle for who was there, because it's a lot
(04:22):
harder unless you have someone inside to tell exactly what
was happening. You know, we are the world was recorded
in One night, One Crazy Night. There's a documentary about it,
and only Quincy Jones could pull that off because Quincy
(04:43):
Jones has such relationships with the stars. But the reason
It had to be done that night after the big
Awards show. Was it the Grammys after? Yeah? Was because
it's impossible to get at all of those people under
one roof at one time. You just you can't do it.
(05:06):
Every single person on that stage we are the world.
Every single one of them has a touring schedule, movies,
they're in projects, they're on vacations, they're on every single
one of them is a standalone entity. You can't get
their time. It's impossible. They're all an entire industry unto themselves.
(05:33):
But to get them all under one roof only the
fact that the Grammys was so big, and Quincy Jones said,
that's our one shot to get them all here at
one time. If you see the document, how crazy it
was because you couldn't You couldn't keep them even another day.
When you consider what we know of the Epstein trips,
(05:56):
the idea that all of those people would come together
at one time, why because Epstein was powerful, Because Epstein
was rich. Do you know how many rich people they're
richer than Epstein was, Bill Gates? Bill Gates will laugh
at Epstein's wealth, which, by the way, no one has
(06:19):
ever been able to explain where his money came from.
And the suspicion is that it was the Chinese. The
Chinese use honeypots like this. Sex is a thing that
can cause powerful, otherwise very thoughtful, very strategic people to
(06:40):
make big errors, and the Chinese know that. Or maybe
it's another government. There are other governments who've been suggested
as being the source behind Epstein. I believe it's probably
most likely China. Could it be Israel, Could it be Russia.
(07:01):
I suppose it could be any number, not Jaibouti, Ramon.
I don't think it was Jaboti doing this one. I
really really don't think it was JABOUDI. Could it be
in Saudi Arabia? There are countries who engage in spycraft
using honeypots like this, that it would be quite consistent.
(07:24):
All that to say. Pam Bondi said two nights ago
that the list is on her desk for a review
and that some of them would be released today. Now
there is a theory that's floating around in Washington, d c.
Circles and so one gave it to me yesterday. I
think there's something to be said for this, and that is,
(07:44):
if you're Donald Trump, you've got one shot at this
you get to drop it one time, and there will
be members of Congress on that. We know that. I've
had enough rumors shared with me by people close enough
to the situation that there are things that I am
of which I am certain, and one of them is
(08:06):
that there are members of Congress House incident on that list.
If you're Donald Trump, you hold that list over their head.
It's a theory and you go you vote for cash
or I'm burning it. Once you release it. You've released it.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Listen Tom.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Swift, and none of them guess it's so keep could
be that's your one. That's Sam I essay.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Geane Hackman has died, and I don't know what to
make of this, but I will read you the reporting
from Deadline magazine quote actor Gene Hackman and his wife,
Betsy Aracoa have been found dead at their home in
Santa Fe. According to police in New Mexico, we do
(09:17):
not believe al play was a factor in their deaths. However,
exact cause of death has not been determined at this time,
said to Santa Fe Sheriff's Office. Local reports said Hackman's
dog had also been found dead alongside the couple at
their Santa fe Home. Hackman and classical pianist Irakuwa sixty
(09:40):
three had been married since nineteen ninety one. The ninety
five year old Hollywood legend won Oscars four, The French
Connection nineteen seventy one, My Opinion, his finest film, Unforgiven
nineteen ninety two, and was Oscar nominated for role in
Bonnie and Clyde in sixty seven, Never Sang for My
(10:03):
Father in seventy and Mississippi Burning in eighty eight. Hackman
was also celebrated for his portrayal of Lex Luthor in
Superman in seventy eight and its sequel, Superman two, with
other credits including The Poseidon Adventure in seventy two, Scarecrow
in seventy two, The Conversation in seventy four, A Bridge
Too Far in seventy seven, Under Fire in eighty three,
(10:28):
Power in eighty six, Loose Cannons in ninety The Firm
in ninety three, The Quicken the Dead ninety five, The
Bird Cage ninety six, Enemy of the State ninety eight,
Behind Enemy Lines two thousand and one, and Runaway Jury
two years later. He had not been in the public
eye for more than two decades, having retired from acting
(10:49):
after starring in Welcome to Mooseport in four. Hackman was
born in San Bernardino, California, in the thirties in thirty
and held dreams of becoming an actor from an early age.
At the age of sixteen, he lot about his age
and enlisted in the US Marine Corps. Went on to
serve as a field radio operator, spending time in China.
(11:11):
He was discharged in fifty one and studied journalism and
television production at the University of Illinois before returning to California.
Cut his acting teeth at the Passing A Playhouse in California,
where he became friends with Dustin Hoffman. Alongside stage work,
he secured bit roles in the movie Mad Dog Call,
(11:32):
as well as TV series such as Tallahassee seven thousand,
Route sixty six and Naked City. Route or Route Route
sixty six. You're right, yeah, I would normally say route
like Route for Liberty, Mississippi in Amitt County. But yeah,
then I would say route. I lived at Route nine
(11:54):
Bucks nine one to four growing up, which doesn't exist anymore.
Normally say route, but you're right when it's root sixties
To get your kicks on Route sixty six. Yeah, good call,
Thank you for that. Okay, you can go back to sleep.
Continue to take small film and TV roles. Hackman also
spent time on Broadway throughout the sixties, so carrying his
(12:15):
first credited role in Lilith starring Gene Seaberg and Warren Beatty,
and also appeared in the long running show Poor Richard
from sixty four to sixty five. Hackman rose to prominence
in the early seventies after he was nominated for a
Best Supporting Actor Award for his role in I Never
Sang for My Father, and then achieved stardom for his
Oscar winning performance as New York City detective Jimmy Popeye
(12:36):
Doyle in The French Connection in seventy one. And as
we talked about a couple of days ago, Al Copeland
of New Orleans, the late Al Copeland said that he
named the Popeyes Fried Chicken establishment that he began. He
named it not for the cartoon character, but for Gene
(12:58):
Hackman's character in The French Connection. He opened See The
French Connection was seventy one. He opened Popeyes, I believe
in seventy two, so that character was a big deal
at the time now, he did go on to secure
the rights to use the cartoon character in his advertising
(13:19):
for Popeye'es. And in fact, I don't know how long
it's been that Al Copeland has been out of the
Popeyes business. He passed away, but he was a legendary
New Orleanian and quite the character I've heard. I've heard
quite a few stories about his personal life been driven
(13:40):
by his home. He's an interesting cat, to be clear,
But I don't know how long ago he would have
sold out of Popeye's Fried Chicken. You like Popey's or
one I used to like Pope's when I was younger.
It's just Popey's was one of those things that there
was nothing wrong with it. I just never choose to go.
Speaker 9 (14:03):
There, right, But then again, I don't eat fried chicken
from fried Chicken franchises anymore, which is kind of a
which is kind of a hipster thing to say.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Well, I mean, I'll be honest, I'm being honest. If
I'm going to eat fried chicken now, it's going to
be ironically from Barbecue Inn over on Cross Chambers. What
and randalls, yes, yes, And you know, over ten years
ago it was my birthday and we started a tradition,
(14:44):
probably fifteen years ago, and I think this was the
beginning of the tradition. Chad just I don't know. They
didn't warn me, but out of nowhere, Chad KNAKANESI goes
to Randall's and there was a Randalls right next to
our station. Our station at the time was That's Sam
Philippi in sixteen. And after the show, they're acting kind
(15:05):
of edgy, you know, like there's about to be a surprise.
I hate surprises. So the door opens and they come
rolling in and it's the whole team, and Chad's got
a bucket of fried chicken, and it says Randalls. And
the appropriate response, if I wasn't a monster, was to
be grateful and thankful. Wow, these guys, I love them.
I get to work with guys that I really like,
(15:26):
and look at this kindness they've shown me. But if
I'm being honest, that's not what I thought. My thought was, well, crap,
if you're gonna bring fried chicken, why are you gonna
bring fried chicken from Randalls? Oh? Hell, now I gotta
eat a piece. And I did. Holy wow. Thus commenced
our Randall's fried chicken tradition that has extended to this day.
(15:51):
And the reason it's not sou ved. What do they
call it? They do they do a pritt what it's
a pressure coo. They put it in a bag Randall's
fried Chicken at Randall's at six' ten and At Sam.
Philippi it's shockingly, good it's incredibly. Good you don't have.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Called me Whiling, jenny and you don't call Me john.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Cried and you don't and.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Call Me Merle hagard, anymore.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Even though you're own my. Back few days, BACK i
mentioned you turn the phone lines only ONE i got
a woman called. DOWN i mentioned rock songs that you
(17:03):
you heard so many times that you don't even you
don't even put them on because you heard them too many.
Times they've almost become trite because you heard them so many.
Times and then something will. Happen you're in a better
mood to. Receive maybe you're on vacation somewhere and it starts,
(17:25):
playing or whatever. Happens, Hotel california was what spurred that.
Thought and there are songs that you kind of feel,
like oh hold, on.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
And i've seen it all songs.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
WORD i love how he sings on songs WHERE i.
Play can you remind that by that's a? Stretch my name?
Hello in your phone?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Books And i've seen it all songs.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
W AND i was talking about songs that you forget
how good they are because you've heard them so many.
Times and so we made a list of ramone made
a list and it it wasn't actually of all your.
Lifts that was the least worst of all the lists you've.
Made BUT i THINK i gave you seven options AND
(18:23):
i didn't round out the. Seven, well the country wasn't an.
Option BUT i think this and he stopped loving her
today are two songs that you, forget old friend of
my name see.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Couldn't but you don't have to call?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Me DO i like that everybody's seen BECAUSE i know
what they're.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Seeing you never even called me my min.
Speaker 11 (18:55):
Name, well my name Is Steve goodman wrote that, song
and he told me it was the perfect country And western.
SONG i wrotehim back a letter AND i told him
it was not the perfect country And western song because
he hadn't said anything at all About, mama her, trains.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Her, trucks or prison or getting.
Speaker 11 (19:22):
Drunk, well he sat down and wrote another verse to the,
song and he sent it to, Me and after reading,
IT i realized that my friend had ritten the perfect
country And western, song AND i felt obliged to include
it on this.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Album the last verse goes like this, here.
Speaker 9 (19:43):
BUT i was.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Drunk to d my mom guide out of, prison.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
AND i went to pick her up in the right
but before to get to the, station down the pickle she,
got ride the, door the by, dawn the train round
(20:22):
the long as you may like me number, nine even
standing down the. Rain you don't have to call me, darling.
(20:44):
Darling he never even called. Me, WELL i wonder you got,
me don't.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Never that song is a song that when it's, mentioned
you forget to show proper reverence and then you remember
how good it. Is one of my, many, many many
(21:22):
many highlights for WHICH i thank you all so much
of THE rcc Was Dante pastorini held a Super bowl
party in what was that fourteen? Fifteen what year it
was the Super bowl? Here, remember, yeah it was five
because that was When Janet jackson's nipple popped, out and
(21:45):
then it was like fourteen or fifteen something like, That
and So pastorini holds this party that was the party
of all. Parties it was the greatest party we ever
held at THE rcc by, far and The Super bowl
had all their Official Super bowl parties seventeen so The
Super thank, you the Super bowl had all Their Super bowl,
(22:07):
parties and the players and you, know the exes and on.
It they're all contracted to. That but everybody want to
be At pastorini's. Party it came to be revered regarded
by THE nfl, crowd especially the, legends as, oh you're
going to you know so and so probably, Well pastorini's
(22:28):
having a party where place called it a redneck country. Club,
okay supposed to. Be this party's going to be. It
If i'm, Lying i'm, Dying. Ramon i'm walking Along pastorini
at his own party is Going who do you want to?
Meet Bob ley right? There, okay come, on, Hey, bob
Meet Michael. BERRY'S i know Who Michael berry is and
(22:50):
we get to. Talking When Bob lilly knows who you.
ARE i don't know that you can buy a cup
of coffee with, that but you feel, Good Mean, joe
meet my Buddy Michael. Barry blah blah blah blah. Blah,
okay thank, You, yeah nice To you know you're not
you're you're not Nice Joe green for a. Reason, uh,
(23:10):
Mean Joe green Loves Dan. PASTORINI I i have m
Sed Dan pastorini's annual gala In december for Be An Angel,
foundation which is a, wonderful wonderful, charity And Dan sen
is the chairman of. It and Mean Joe green flies
in every year on his own, dime doesn't doesn't want
(23:31):
to be, paid and it's just incredible these to respect
these people. Have see the only time in. History you
won't believe this is, true but it is. True see
the only time in history That Mark, Chestnut Tracy, bird
And Clay walker were on stage together at the same
time singing a. Song the truth Is mark And Tracy,
(23:56):
Well mark Despises, Clay tracy doesn't like, him And clay
kind of feels like it's. Unfair and that's just sort
of the way the way it. Is there's a long
long history of, them The Beaumont, boys and we would
all as fans like them all to get. Along but
So i've Got i've Booked chestnut And bird and they're
(24:16):
And tracy they're on the stage, together And tillman shows
up at our part With playwalker AND i See tillman
And i'm. Walking Hey, tillman.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
How are, you?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Buddy he, said you Know, clay And clay's, like, yes
we go way. Back and then, hey this Is.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Tracy bird AND i tipped my hand to the keeper
The stone and The Salt New york set that posse
down like came of, sing.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Don't, jump thanks, Out i'm being.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Stuff got out of.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Here but it's to night at The Super bowl parties
And chestnut And Tracy burder, performing which to me is
a treat par. Excellence those two, guys they go way.
Back if you don't know the, Story chestnut was the
(25:17):
first guy discovered out Of, beaumont big like that Since George.
Jones there were OTHERS i know who you're thinking already,
there but not on this. Level So chestnut was playing
at a place Called Cutters and my interaction with all
of this was only from a distance because my brother
(25:41):
was working an extra job as security at the. Time
my brother was a great two stepper in loved country.
Music that was something that we shared in, common And
chestnut had what's called a, residency which meant he played.
There usually a residency's one night of but it can
mean that that's your, gig, right it can mean that
(26:04):
that's you, know that's how you pay the. Bills you're
the house. Band, Well chestnut, was AND i think it
was something like every night From tuesday Through, Saturday chestnuts
band played and out of. Cutters he was discovered and
he was invited to what is known As. Showcase and
(26:25):
showcase is where you go To nashville and the record
labels in order to maximize their, efficiency they're all sitting
in the audience and you may have five or ten
artists who will walk out and do two, songs and
(26:50):
if there's a single label there who wants to hear another,
one they'll raise their Hand ARISTA, mca and they'll say
could you do one? More and maybe if they want
to hear your voice in a particular, range they'll, say,
hey do you Know once at A Blue moon By
Earl Thomas connelly In and if you know, it then
(27:11):
they're just trying to see they're trying to imagine you
as an artist on their. Label so the goal at
showcase is to be offered a record. Deal So chestnut
goes out to, showcase kills, it absolutely kills, it and
(27:32):
he's off To. Nashville, Well, nashville be In. Nashville they,
go we want, you but not your, band and we'll
build a band around. You So chestnuts. Off Tracy bird
has a deal at a lesser location around, town and
the owner Of cutter's calls and, says, Hey chestnuts, out
(27:54):
would you come assume his residency and you'll be backed
by his and T bird, said, Yep i'll do, it
so he did. So in relatively short, order those same
guys that came For chestnut came back To. Beaumont they
go To, cutters they're in the audience and he had
been tipped off they were going to be. There so
(28:16):
he's putting on quite the show and they asked him
to come to. Showcase so he does and he gets the.
DEAL a fun. Story the night before, showcase he is
there's a he's single at the, time and there's a
(28:36):
girl that he knew From beaumont and she knows he's
in town and she, says, hey you're in, town let's get.
Together so he takes her to dinner and he walks into.
Dinner if you've never Met Tracy, bird he's a big,
boy played high school basketball and pretty good basketball. Player
but he's a big. Dude HE'S i don't, know six'
two at, a minimum maybe, sixty three and. He's solid
(28:58):
he's got. Big shoulders he, look, like well he's Built Like,
david klingler who we teach Me the Bible, dot com
who we talked. To yesterday he's a. Big boy he's
built on the chassis of Like A, david carr, you
know a. Bigger. QUARTERBACK yeah I think klingler is, a
good good. Analogy there who else would you put?
Speaker 4 (29:20):
In That?
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Josh allen he's built On A josh. Allen. Chassis, Yeah
same it's a different, transmission package but it's the same.
Chassis Anyway So tracy bird is walking into this restaurant
the night. Before showcase so, HE'S like i gotta go to.
BED early i got to be rested up as in
my big Day of marri's my. Big shot and this, girl,
(29:42):
says oh there's fair, and young legendary country. Music Singer so, tracy,
said yeah it. Sure is and he's walking, towards us and,
SHE said i. KNOW him i went on a couple
of dates, with him and, he said he's walking like
he he's A Little Banny Rooster faryn young is a.
(30:02):
Little Guy very young is legendary for his. Temper Tantrums
So fairy young marching up, and, says hey you're with.
My Girlfriend But tracy Bird's Not tracy. Bird yet he's
just some dude in the cowboy hat that. Looks Good and,
TRACY said i stood UP and i tower, over him
and he said. It Again tracy, bird said she's not.
(30:25):
Your girlfriend we Grew up beaumont together and. She in about,
This Time fairy young punches him in the stomach hard as,
he can And t, bird said this guy's probably sixty.
Years old, what now hell You Little Banny rooster and,
he said, thank god because You know houdini died from
getting punched in the stomach, without now thank god the.
(30:48):
LAST minute i tend, st up but it's still a
shot to the stomach that you. Weren't expecting and, he
Said all, I'M thinking i can't, He, SAID michael i
could have crushed. This Guy all i'm Thinking is showcase
tomorrow and you the story is you fought Fair. And young.
You're finished you're finished in. This town Fair and young
(31:10):
is a legend. This town so, he said it was
like it was like the. Little rascals you remember when
when al falf would be, you know he'd be doing
the windmill punches and just hold him back by. His,
head well so that's. What happened and my orange were
lowering HIS and i just held him off of me
by his head and he's steady windmill trying to. Punch me,
(31:31):
he said it'd be FUNNY if i wasn't. So worried
so fast forward the next day Showcase t bird gets.
Multiple offers, that night he's at dinner with the label
he accepts the deal from and he tells them the
story and he goes guys in case it, gets around
and you Know, in nashville you know. WHAT happened i
(31:52):
want you all To know I'm not i'm not gonna
come to town and try To Fight roger Miller And
ray Stevens And chad Atkins and George jon this. Just
happened it wasn't. My fault and the head of the record,
label said, HE said i don't want y'all to think
less of me or to have a problem. With me
and the head of the record, LABEL said i have
a problem. WITH you i wish you to knock, him
(32:12):
out and, he. Said oh, he, Said oh Fara and
young has got, a terrible terrible reputation in. This, time
Well apparently Fara and young would call Up the cadillac dealership,
And say i'll be over in. An hour want y'all
to have The finest cadillac, you got like He, was,
elvis right except he didn't pay, For it and So
(32:34):
the cadillac, dealership, said, uh, no no you don't need
to show up over. Here anyway So So tracy bird,
goes off and to, their credit Neither t Bird nor
chestnut Ever. Left beaumont they stayed true to where they
were and who they were that, whole time which is
(32:54):
pretty cool and. Small World mark chestnut's wife's Name is
Tracy And CLAY walker i don't believe he ever Moved.
To nashville he Was, from viider which is Not, exactly
beaumont but it's basically a Suburb. Of. Beaumont now viider
today is just white people that didn't want to Live
in beaumont because the schools went, to hell so they
(33:15):
Moved to vider because. It's safer, so anyway there We
are pastorini's PARTY and I see tillman and he's got,
clay wood and he doesn't love clay and, iron buddies
so
Popular Podcasts
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Special Summer Offer: Exclusively on Apple Podcasts, try our Dateline Premium subscription completely free for one month! With Dateline Premium, you get every episode ad-free plus exclusive bonus content.
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.