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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm luck and load. Michael Verie show is on the air.
Maybe you could just go back.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Let's go back.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yeah, pretend like it never happened.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I mean, just walking to the staff meeting on Monday
morning like it never happened.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Sure, you're an emotional person. People don't take you seriously.
Just go back. Pretend the whole thing never happened. Never happened.
I was blowing off a little steam. So what so
what You're entitled emotional? That's right, you're emotional.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Never happened, never happened.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Do you think that respectful? What on succumb to the
Oval Office of the United.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
States of America and attack the administration.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
That is trying to try to prevent the destruction of
your country.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
A lot of questions. Let's start from the biggest.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Sure, Hillston wall during the war, everybody has probed, even you.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
But you have nice ocean and don't.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Feel now, but you will feel it in the fusions.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
You don't know that.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Bless you, blessed, You don't know you work. Don't tell
us what we're gonna feel. We're trying to solve a problem.
Don't tell us what we're gonna feel. I'm not telling
you because you're in no position to dictate that. You're
in no position to dictate what we're gonna feel.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
We're gonna feel very good, feel influenced.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
We're gonna feel very good, very.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Strong, will feel influenced.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
You're right now not in a very good position. You've
allowed your so to be in a very bad position.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
That examples to be.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
Right about the very beginning of the war, not in
a good positions.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
You don't have the cards right now with us. You
start having cards right now, you're bread.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
You're gambling lives billions of people.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
See you're gambling with world War three.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
You're gambling with world War three.
Speaker 7 (01:53):
You got to the whole, No man fold, no win
the ball.
Speaker 8 (02:03):
To run.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
You never count your old Bundy when you're sitting at
the table.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
There will be time about count putting the deals.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
All I can say is this, you might have broken
deals with Obama and Bush, and he might have broken
him with Biden.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
He did, maybe maybe he didn't. I don't know what happened,
but he didn't break it with me. He wants to
make a deal.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I don't know if you can make a deal. The
problem is I've empowered you to be a tough guy,
and I don't think you'd be a tough guy without
the United States.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And your people are very brave.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
But you're either going to make a deal or we're out.
And if we're out, you'll fight it out. I don't
think it's going to be pretty, but you'll fight it out.
But you don't have the cards. But once we signed
that deal, you're in a much better position. But you're
not acting at all things and that's not a nice thing.
I'll be honest, that's not a nice thing.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
You got no.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Home, no wind of Fallo, no love.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
So there is some uncertainty with regard to the United
Kingdom and their role in all of this. There is
some conversation that Europe is intending to send troops to
NATO to die in Zelensky's war. Well, we're not going
to die in his war.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
And I'll tell you what this whole effort.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Has done is made NATO very unpopular because people Americans
are now understanding that by being involved in NATO, what
we're committing ourselves to is going to war on behalf
of our fellow NATO members. Well, we don't really need
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those folks on our side. If we're attacked. We're not
waiting on the French in the English to come protect us.
But those folks have gotten themselves in trouble over the
Russia Ukraine War. And remember it was seven years ago
that President Trump lectured the Germans, the U Folks are
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buying Russian oil, and you're buying Russian oil, and that's
going to get You're buying Russian oil, but you want
me to protect you from Putin. Well, if you're wondering
what the English position is, take a listen at this.
This is Lord Peter Mandelsson. He is the British Ambassador
to the United States. This is a very This would
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seem to cut against what the British Prime Minister is saying.
He was on mandelssoh, the British Ambassador US was on
ABC this week and he said Zelensky must give his
unequivocal backing to the initiative that President Trump is taking
to in the world. In other words, Zelensky is going
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to have to do what Trump tells him. I think
the British are backtracking and realizing, hey, we don't want
to get crossways with Trump over Zelensky.
Speaker 7 (05:12):
Listen carefully in the British ambassad United in the State,
Lord Peter Madison.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Lord Madison, thank you for joining us this morning.
Speaker 8 (05:19):
You just started, Secretary of Rubio there your response, My.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
Response is that we need a very radical reset, as
you say in the caption behind you, and the reset
has to consist of the United States and Ukraine getting
back on the same page and President Zelenski giving his
unequivocalt backing to the initiative that President Trump is taking
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to end the war and to bring a just and
lasting peace to Ukraine and the Europeans. George too, they
need to back the calls for a cease fire. And
by the way, I think that Ukraine should be the
first to commit to a cease fire and defy the
Russians to follow, and that as part of the unfolding
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plan for this negotiation, the Europeans and perhaps some other
countries too have got to consider how they are going
to put forces on the ground to play their part
in providing enduring security and deterrence for Ukraine. Now, that's
the reset that we are looking for. That's what the
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British Prime Minister is working for in his meeting in
London today.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
And beginning progress.
Speaker 8 (06:36):
Yet I know the meetings are going on right now,
but you seem to suggest that it's up to the
Ukrainians first to come forward and say yes.
Speaker 7 (06:44):
Well, look after what happened on Friday, it's clear that
we need to bring the United States and Ukraine back
together again. And I think the first thing that President
Zelensky can do is to make clear his commitment to
the initiative that President Trump is taking. And yes, I
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do think it would be a good idea if you
signed the economic and commercial deal put forward by the
United States.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
And the reason I say that is.
Speaker 7 (07:17):
Quite apart from the economic gain that Ukraine will derive
from that, it will also give the United States a
stake in Ukraine's future. It will mean that US commercial interests,
US individuals, citizens will be on the ground there, and
that will be an even greater added incentive for the
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US to protect the Ukraine in future. Make sure that
war does not ensue a gain. That's what I want
to see, That's what we all want to see. It
takes both the United States and Ukraine to come together
and make sure that this whole initiative is given the
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best possible likelihood of success. Because George, it is the
only show in town. It's the a negotiation available and
it's got to be made to work, and that's what
we in Britain are very committed to help bring about.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
You've got them, Michael Berry show.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
You know, I find it interesting how many people that
I know have at some point put the Ukrainian flag
as their profile picture on social media, and I wonder
what that means to them. I'm not going to ask,
but what does it mean? Do you know where Ukraine is?
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You have any idea of the history of Ukraine. Oh,
Ukraine's like Alamo, Michael. People tell me that Ukraine's like
to Alamo. We got to fight it off.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
That is that what Ukraine is really?
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Are you where that Ukraine was long a part of
the Russian Empire and that goes that goes back further
than you can imagine lifetimes ago. Did you know that
Khrushov was Ukrainian? That didn't mean he was from Ukraine
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and went over into Russia. That was the Russian Empire.
Russia has been our most powerful nemesis in the world
for quite some time. However, they are not our greatest
threat today. China is, and it's not even close economically
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and militarily. It is also the case that the Russia
Ukraine issue is a European issue, not our issue.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
And yet a number of.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
American deep staters have gotten involved in that issue and
put Putin in a position. Not just say Putin's a
nice guy, not to take his side, but if you're
looking at this thing objectively, and the fact that your
grandmother's from Ukraine, I don't need to hear from you, Okay,
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all these people trying to advocate for the country that
they're supposed to be from. There are a lot of
Ukrainian Americans who fled Ukraine because it's so corrupt. And
by the way, all these people with Ukrainian flags in
New York dancing around and saying we're for Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Win the war, stay in the war.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
You see how many Ukrainian mothers are begging for their
sons to be sent back. Their sons were grabbed off
the street and sent to the front lines to use
this cannon fodder. They're not happy about this war. They're
ready for it to be over. But here is a
I'm gonna play you the audio. I've got the video
of John McCain standing in the capital Kiev in twenty thirteen,
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and he openly tells CNN that the United States delegation
was in Ukraine to orchestrate a regime change in Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
His words, so.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
You got the United States toppling the leader of Kiev
to put someone in that they have decided should be
the leader, like Joe Biden, instead of the person the
public warning which was Trump. You have the Russian communities
there who were slaughtered and driven out. They don't want
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this leadership, they don't want the American leadership, and at
that moment their votes were disregarded because John McCain, like
Lindsey Graham, these guys love to drag us into wars
and love to fiddle into internacine, very very complicated conflicts
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like this, for which there is no simple answer for
who's a good guy and a bad guy.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
We can agree Putin's a bad guy.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
We must also agree that Zelensky is a bad guy.
And why do you think he's been portrayed to us
in such an aggressive PR campaign as such.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
A good guy. Why not be honest about it? Why
not be honest about this?
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Listen twenty thirteen John McCain, who there wasn't a single
war that he and Lindsey Graham ever saw that they
didn't think we should get involved.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
In joining me.
Speaker 9 (12:42):
Now, Senator John McCain, who I know as Senator, who
have just addressed the crowd of protesters there, yourself and Keef,
what is it you're trying to do here?
Speaker 8 (12:54):
Hopefully what we are trying to do is bring about
a peaceful transition here that would stop the violence, would
give the Ukrainian people what they unfortunately have not with
different revolutions that have taken place, a real legitimate society.
This is a grassroots revolution here. It's been peaceful except
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for when the government tried to crack down on them,
and the government hasn't done that since. But praising their
ability and their desire to demonstrate peacefully for change that
I think they deserve.
Speaker 9 (13:33):
Let me ask you this about the US role. I
know that you have wanted the administration perhaps to consider
sanctions something to help boost the anti government protesters. The
question to you is, while we're trying to work on
so many things with the Russians, for instance, with Iran
and in Syria, is this really a good time for
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the US to be taking on Russia.
Speaker 8 (13:59):
Well, I don't think that we would be taking on Russia.
And by the way, I am very pleased with Secretary
Cary statement, our Deputy Secretary of Victoria Newland who was here. Look,
these people love the United States of America. They love freedom,
and I don't think you could view this as anything
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but our traditional support for people who want free in
democratic society. We're not talking about military action, We're not
talking about blockades. We are talking about the possibility of sanctions.
If they continue to brutally repress their people, that would
require some action on our part, just because that's what
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the United States of America is all about.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
Wait a second, we don't want British Labor Party officials
coming to Pennsylvania and campaigning for Kamala Harris, and we
didn't want Zelensky coming to Pennsylvania and campaigning for Kamala Harris,
which he did right before the election.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
And yet we bring our senators to.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Ukraine when they're in the middle of a revolution, and
we announce effectively we're on the side of the protesters. Well,
before you go thinking that the protesters of the Boston
Tea Party, let me tell you something. Do you think
that Black Lives Matter represents a protest in America that
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most Americans want.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Do you think Antifa does? But what if you were
told that?
Speaker 5 (15:38):
So you've got Yuanukovich who was the duly elected president
of Ukraine who was toppled in a revolution that McCain
at all was involved with. And there were a number
of Ukrainians who were very, very angry over the man
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they voted for being pushed out. And oh yeah, but
but the folks who put in the Linskey, they're the
good guys, the Michael Daries somebody. But still clip six
oh seven Ramon. This is a comedian by the name
of John Christ and he had a funny bit about
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the we stand for Ukraine crowd.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Everybody on the internet is like acting like mother Teresa
subtube just like on the internet, just like we stand
with Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I go, you don't even have custody of your kids?
Speaker 7 (16:36):
Did what?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Who are you talking to? Pick up your kids from
soccer practice? Then we'll talk about foreign policy. Kevin, We
are living on stolen land.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
I'm like, you're stolen your parents' cell phone plan. You're
on stolen minutes. Brittany, who are you talking too? Follow
me on my fitness journey? You're on Ozivik.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Dude kaisan a Sidu makes the point, I think very
well that we need to stop buying the story that
we need to fight putin forever. Listen, some of these
folks that pulled us into Vietnam, Korea, Nicaragua, some of
these folks that drag us into these forever wars Afghanistan, Iraq,
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they have way too much influence. They pound their chest
and they're the most patriotic in patriotic, and they love
the troops. But in fact they don't love the troops.
They have Zelenski saying, view you just use them as
cannon fodder. They're not out for what's best for America.
But here anyway, here's the point. You're Americans.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
If you're waving a Ukrainian flag or putting a Ukrainian
flag in your bio, I want to ask you what
exactly are you supporting. Are you supporting a war that
the US and europe sparks by constantly expanding NATO closer
to Russian borders since nineteen ninety four. Are you supporting
a war that was sparked by the US helping to
overthrow a democratically elected Ukrainian president in twenty fourteen because
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he was pro Russian.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Are you supporting a war.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
That was insticated by Biden supporting Ukraine joining NATO in
twenty twenty one, which would be like Mexico entering a
military alliance with Russia. Are you supporting funding war or
forging peace? Now, to be clear, Putin started this war.
Putin broke international law. Putin has blood on his hands.
But our government has been giving other governments excuses to
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fight wars. Weapons companies who own our politicians profit from
war and find new reasons to start war give them excuses. USAID,
which has been undermining foreign governments under the guise of
humanitarian aid, gives them excuses. Cowardly Republican and Democrat career
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politicians who go along with all of that, give them excuses.
If we want to stop wars, then we need to
stop giving other countries reasons to start them. Now, we
can all have empathy for Zelenski. He's had to endure
three years of watching his people suffer at the hands
of Putin, but Legacy media painted him as a victim
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in that press conference. They ignored how Zelenski behaved for
the first thirty nine minutes of a fifty minute press conference.
They ignore that Zelenski kept calling Putin a killer and
a terrorist while our president was trying to make peace.
They ignore that Zelenski said Russia should pay for everything
while our president was trying to make a deal. They
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ignore that Zelensky threatened Americans that Putin will attack America
while we're tried to stop the attacks on Ukraine. They
ignore that Zelenski is fighting a war with money that
isn't his while our president is fighting for peace. Stop
buying this. Stop buying the story that we need to
fight Putin forever. Stop buying the story that we need
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to use American money for Ukraine and Russians to die.
Stop buying the story that Trump talking to put In
to create peace is somehow wrong. Stop and ask yourself
what exactly are you supporting. Are you supporting Peith for
the Ukrainian people, or are you supporting governments who get
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in the way of peace?
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Thought to yourself as you listen to that h who's
Kaisan a sido? He's just a black dude. He calls
himself a motivational speaker.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I don't know. He may have a mortgage company.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
I don't know. He may have a few other things
going side hustles, But there is an interesting thing happening
right now where black people are getting a lot of
what's called clout, which is when people repost your stuff
and comment on it and you get a great response.
There are random black people who are not famous and
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don't hold a position and aren't an elected official who
are simply putting a camera on their face and saying
things about what's going on in this country. And what's
making them famous is this isn't World Star. They're not
claiming racism, they're not They're talking about the fact that
Trump is doing good things and that is a radical
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act for a black person to take in twenty twenty five.
And because of that, a lot of white people and
a lot of black people are reposting what they have
to say, and they are developing a voice. And you're
noticing this viral, this trend of virality for average average
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black woman, average black guy that works as a trainer
or barista or raises kids, and they're simply talking into
their phone with the camera on their face.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Maybe the camera's moving around. A lot of them are in.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Their car and they're explaining kind of a you know, hey,
here's what's really happening. Here's what I perceive is happening.
And there is such a welcome audience for Hey, look
at this. Jasmine Crockett doesn't speak for black people. Shila
Jackson Lee didn't speak for black people. Barack Obama didn't
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speak for black people. Guess what black people have brains too.
Black people are tired of illegal immigration. Black people are
tired of our money being spent to being sent to Ukraine.
Black people are tired of the waste and corruption in government.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
So that's who kaisen us s do is.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
It was on this day in nineteen thirty one that
our Star Spangled banner was made officially the national anthem.
It's a great story behind our national anthem, and I'll
tell you that coming up.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Michael Berry The Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
In seventeen seventy six, tensions had been high with our
cousins back in England, and it was determined that we
would no longer be a part of the Kingdom. We
would declare our independence. We don't belong to you anymore.
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We are no longer your colony. King George, you can.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Stick it up your bum.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
So they said no, Ain't that easy? So we fought
it out and we won. But that was not to
be the end of their desire to control these colonies.
Almost forty years later there was another war fought in
the same matter, and it came to be known as
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the War of eighteen twelve, but it lasted beyond eighteen twelve.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
And so it was in.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
September of eighteen fourteen August twenty eighth to be exact,
that a doctor by the name of William Beans.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
He lived in Maryland. The British had burned.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Washington, and what came to be was the burning of
Washington and the raid on Alexandria. They behaved very badly,
as the British were wont to do in those days,
and doctor Beans, according to the British, helped some folks
grab hold of some of the British army stragglers who
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were in the process of ransacking homes. They claimed they
were ransacking the homes in search of food. The colonists
claim the American sorry, claim, no, you weren't. You're trying
to do maximum damage. Well, doctor Beans helped hold back
some of these guys detain them since they might be punished. Well,
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he fell into the hands of the British, and that
was not a good thing. He had a friend who
has described as a poet.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
But he was really a lawyer. He was a lawyer
to pay his bills.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
He was a poet in the way that you know
folks have a garage band. But we can call him
a poet, I guess for the purposes of this story.
This is not a Netflix show. This is Michael Berry show.
So Francis scott Key was his friend, and he sent
for Francis scott Key and he would join a mutual
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friend of theirs, and he would take a ship across
to talk with the British, have dinner and secure the
release of his buddy. And in the process of heading
back after he witnessed the bombardment of Fort McHenry Our
Fort by the British Royal Navy during what came to
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be known as the Battle of Baltimore in the War
of eighteen twelve, he was very, very inspired by a
massive US flag that had been hoisted proud Americans. It
had fifteen stars and fifteen stripes at the time, because
of course we didn't have fifty states. And he wrote
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a poem called the Defense or just Defense of Fort McHenry,
and it came to be known in time as the
star Spangled Banner, or it was also known as the
Great Garrison Flag, because it was the garrison flag that
flew over Fort McHenry in Baltimore Harbor during the naval
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portion of the Battle of Baltimore. It's still on exhibit
in the National Museum of American History. Well, that that poem,
as it advanced and came to be known over the
years by various names, that song became sort of an
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American bit of pride, and that song took on more
and more meaning. Francis Scott Key would give the poem
to his brother in law, the loved by the name
of Joseph Nicholson, and he noticed in reading it that
the words fit a very popular medley at the time
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called the Anacreontic Song. It was by interestingly enough English
composer named John Stafford Smith.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
And this song, the.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Nacre On Tick Song, not an easy word to say,
was the official song of that society, and that was
a gentleman's club of amateur musicians in London.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
So Francis Scott Key's brother in.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Law Nicholson, took the poem to a printer in Baltimore,
and we don't know his name, but he made the
first known broadside. It was called printing on September seventeenth.
There are two of those that remained. A broadside are
also known musicians will call it. A broad sheet is
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a single sheet of inexpensive paper printed on one side,
and so it's used to print songs or illustration.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Well.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
The song keeps building in popularity throughout the eighteen hundreds
and nineteenth century, especially on Independence Day, and more and
more it came to be known as the Star Spangled Banner,
and in nineteen eighty nine, the US Navy officially adopted it,
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and it wasn't until nineteen sixteen, a full hundred and
two years later, that President Woodrow Wilson ordered that the
Star Spangled Banner be played at military occasions and other
appropriate American occasions. The playing of the song two years later,
during the seventh inning stretch of Game one of the
nineteen eighteen World Series, is considered the first time that
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it was played at a baseball game, which it came
to be known as something we would do to open
sporting events, and of course that tradition continues on to
this day. And it wasn't until nineteen twenty nine that
John Charles Linscombe, who was a US Congressman from Maryland
at the time, because remember there's a great Maryland story,
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this is a Battle of Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
From nineteen eighteen to nineteen twenty nine.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
He would keep trying to get this song to be
the national song, the song for the whole nation, the
anthem for the whole nation, so the national anthem. And
it wasn't until nineteen thirty one, on this day in
nineteen thirty one, February I sorted March third, nineteen thirty
one that by congressional resolution it became known as our
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nation's anthem, our national anthem. Prior to that, it was
Hail Columbia. Until most until the greater part of the
nineteenth century, then there was my country tis of thee,
which is identical to God Save the King. Because again
our original colonists were Englishmen, and so our music was
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from the English tradition. There have been arguments made for
America the Beautiful, and of course there is an attempt
to make a separate black national anthem, which is ridiculous.
A nation has an anthem. We don't divide up by
tribes in this country. It's distinctly un America.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
And so there you are.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
That is the history of our nation's anthem, the Star
Spangled Banner. Born of war, born of valor, born of
the pen of an imperfect man. How very fitting for
America today. Thanks for listening, my fellow Americans. God bless America.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Every Elvis has left. Good men, thank you, and good night.
I'm luck and load. Michael Verie show is on the air.
Maybe you could just go back.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Let's go back.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yeah, pretend like it never happened.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I mean, just walking to the staff meeting on Monday
morning like it never happened.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Sure, you're an emotional person. People don't take you seriously.
Just go back. Pretend the whole thing never happened. Never happened.
I was blowing off a little steam. So what so
what You're entitled emotional? That's right, you're emotional.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Never happened, never happened.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Do you think that respectful? What on succumb to the
Oval Office of the United.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
States of America and attack the administration.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
That is trying to try to prevent the destruction of
your country.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
A lot of questions. Let's start from the biggest.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Sure, Hillston wall during the war, everybody has probed, even you.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
But you have nice ocean and don't.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Feel now, but you will feel it in the fusions.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
You don't know that.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Bless you, blessed, You don't know you work. Don't tell
us what we're gonna feel. We're trying to solve a problem.
Don't tell us what we're gonna feel. I'm not telling
you because you're in no position to dictate that. You're
in no position to dictate what we're gonna feel.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
We're gonna feel very good, feel influenced.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
We're gonna feel very good, very.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Strong, will feel influenced.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
You're right now not in a very good position. You've
allowed your so to be in a very bad position.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
That examples to be.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
Right about the very beginning of the war, not in
a good positions.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
You don't have the cards right now with us. You
start having cards right now, you're bread.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
You're gambling lives billions of people.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
See you're gambling with world War three.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
You're gambling with world War three.
Speaker 7 (01:53):
You got to the whole, No man fold, no win
the ball.
Speaker 8 (02:03):
To run.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
You never count your old Bundy when you're sitting at
the table.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
There will be time about count putting the deals.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
All I can say is this, you might have broken
deals with Obama and Bush, and he might have broken
him with Biden.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
He did, maybe maybe he didn't. I don't know what happened,
but he didn't break it with me. He wants to
make a deal.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I don't know if you can make a deal. The
problem is I've empowered you to be a tough guy,
and I don't think you'd be a tough guy without
the United States.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And your people are very brave.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
But you're either going to make a deal or we're out.
And if we're out, you'll fight it out. I don't
think it's going to be pretty, but you'll fight it out.
But you don't have the cards. But once we signed
that deal, you're in a much better position. But you're
not acting at all things and that's not a nice thing.
I'll be honest, that's not a nice thing.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
You got no.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Home, no wind of Fallo, no love.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
So there is some uncertainty with regard to the United
Kingdom and their role in all of this. There is
some conversation that Europe is intending to send troops to
NATO to die in Zelensky's war. Well, we're not going
to die in his war.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
And I'll tell you what this whole effort.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Has done is made NATO very unpopular because people Americans
are now understanding that by being involved in NATO, what
we're committing ourselves to is going to war on behalf
of our fellow NATO members. Well, we don't really need
(03:59):
those folks on our side. If we're attacked. We're not
waiting on the French in the English to come protect us.
But those folks have gotten themselves in trouble over the
Russia Ukraine War. And remember it was seven years ago
that President Trump lectured the Germans, the U Folks are
(04:20):
buying Russian oil, and you're buying Russian oil, and that's
going to get You're buying Russian oil, but you want
me to protect you from Putin. Well, if you're wondering
what the English position is, take a listen at this.
This is Lord Peter Mandelsson. He is the British Ambassador
to the United States. This is a very This would
(04:43):
seem to cut against what the British Prime Minister is saying.
He was on mandelssoh, the British Ambassador US was on
ABC this week and he said Zelensky must give his
unequivocal backing to the initiative that President Trump is taking
to in the world. In other words, Zelensky is going
(05:03):
to have to do what Trump tells him. I think
the British are backtracking and realizing, hey, we don't want
to get crossways with Trump over Zelensky.
Speaker 7 (05:12):
Listen carefully in the British ambassad United in the State,
Lord Peter Madison.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Lord Madison, thank you for joining us this morning.
Speaker 8 (05:19):
You just started, Secretary of Rubio there your response, My.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
Response is that we need a very radical reset, as
you say in the caption behind you, and the reset
has to consist of the United States and Ukraine getting
back on the same page and President Zelenski giving his
unequivocalt backing to the initiative that President Trump is taking
(05:44):
to end the war and to bring a just and
lasting peace to Ukraine and the Europeans. George too, they
need to back the calls for a cease fire. And
by the way, I think that Ukraine should be the
first to commit to a cease fire and defy the
Russians to follow, and that as part of the unfolding
(06:08):
plan for this negotiation, the Europeans and perhaps some other
countries too have got to consider how they are going
to put forces on the ground to play their part
in providing enduring security and deterrence for Ukraine. Now, that's
the reset that we are looking for. That's what the
(06:29):
British Prime Minister is working for in his meeting in
London today.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
And beginning progress.
Speaker 8 (06:36):
Yet I know the meetings are going on right now,
but you seem to suggest that it's up to the
Ukrainians first to come forward and say yes.
Speaker 7 (06:44):
Well, look after what happened on Friday, it's clear that
we need to bring the United States and Ukraine back
together again. And I think the first thing that President
Zelensky can do is to make clear his commitment to
the initiative that President Trump is taking. And yes, I
(07:07):
do think it would be a good idea if you
signed the economic and commercial deal put forward by the
United States.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
And the reason I say that is.
Speaker 7 (07:17):
Quite apart from the economic gain that Ukraine will derive
from that, it will also give the United States a
stake in Ukraine's future. It will mean that US commercial interests,
US individuals, citizens will be on the ground there, and
that will be an even greater added incentive for the
(07:40):
US to protect the Ukraine in future. Make sure that
war does not ensue a gain. That's what I want
to see, That's what we all want to see. It
takes both the United States and Ukraine to come together
and make sure that this whole initiative is given the
(08:01):
best possible likelihood of success. Because George, it is the
only show in town. It's the a negotiation available and
it's got to be made to work, and that's what
we in Britain are very committed to help bring about.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
You've got them, Michael Berry show.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
You know, I find it interesting how many people that
I know have at some point put the Ukrainian flag
as their profile picture on social media, and I wonder
what that means to them. I'm not going to ask,
but what does it mean? Do you know where Ukraine is?
(08:43):
You have any idea of the history of Ukraine. Oh,
Ukraine's like Alamo, Michael. People tell me that Ukraine's like
to Alamo. We got to fight it off.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
That is that what Ukraine is really?
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Are you where that Ukraine was long a part of
the Russian Empire and that goes that goes back further
than you can imagine lifetimes ago. Did you know that
Khrushov was Ukrainian? That didn't mean he was from Ukraine
(09:21):
and went over into Russia. That was the Russian Empire.
Russia has been our most powerful nemesis in the world
for quite some time. However, they are not our greatest
threat today. China is, and it's not even close economically
(09:44):
and militarily. It is also the case that the Russia
Ukraine issue is a European issue, not our issue.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
And yet a number of.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
American deep staters have gotten involved in that issue and
put Putin in a position. Not just say Putin's a
nice guy, not to take his side, but if you're
looking at this thing objectively, and the fact that your
grandmother's from Ukraine, I don't need to hear from you, Okay,
(10:18):
all these people trying to advocate for the country that
they're supposed to be from. There are a lot of
Ukrainian Americans who fled Ukraine because it's so corrupt. And
by the way, all these people with Ukrainian flags in
New York dancing around and saying we're for Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Win the war, stay in the war.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
You see how many Ukrainian mothers are begging for their
sons to be sent back. Their sons were grabbed off
the street and sent to the front lines to use
this cannon fodder. They're not happy about this war. They're
ready for it to be over. But here is a
I'm gonna play you the audio. I've got the video
of John McCain standing in the capital Kiev in twenty thirteen,
(11:06):
and he openly tells CNN that the United States delegation
was in Ukraine to orchestrate a regime change in Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
His words, so.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
You got the United States toppling the leader of Kiev
to put someone in that they have decided should be
the leader, like Joe Biden, instead of the person the
public warning which was Trump. You have the Russian communities
there who were slaughtered and driven out. They don't want
(11:43):
this leadership, they don't want the American leadership, and at
that moment their votes were disregarded because John McCain, like
Lindsey Graham, these guys love to drag us into wars
and love to fiddle into internacine, very very complicated conflicts
(12:07):
like this, for which there is no simple answer for
who's a good guy and a bad guy.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
We can agree Putin's a bad guy.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
We must also agree that Zelensky is a bad guy.
And why do you think he's been portrayed to us
in such an aggressive PR campaign as such.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
A good guy. Why not be honest about it? Why
not be honest about this?
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Listen twenty thirteen John McCain, who there wasn't a single
war that he and Lindsey Graham ever saw that they
didn't think we should get involved.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
In joining me.
Speaker 9 (12:42):
Now, Senator John McCain, who I know as Senator, who
have just addressed the crowd of protesters there, yourself and Keef,
what is it you're trying to do here?
Speaker 8 (12:54):
Hopefully what we are trying to do is bring about
a peaceful transition here that would stop the violence, would
give the Ukrainian people what they unfortunately have not with
different revolutions that have taken place, a real legitimate society.
This is a grassroots revolution here. It's been peaceful except
(13:18):
for when the government tried to crack down on them,
and the government hasn't done that since. But praising their
ability and their desire to demonstrate peacefully for change that
I think they deserve.
Speaker 9 (13:33):
Let me ask you this about the US role. I
know that you have wanted the administration perhaps to consider
sanctions something to help boost the anti government protesters. The
question to you is, while we're trying to work on
so many things with the Russians, for instance, with Iran
and in Syria, is this really a good time for
(13:55):
the US to be taking on Russia.
Speaker 8 (13:59):
Well, I don't think that we would be taking on Russia.
And by the way, I am very pleased with Secretary
Cary statement, our Deputy Secretary of Victoria Newland who was here. Look,
these people love the United States of America. They love freedom,
and I don't think you could view this as anything
(14:20):
but our traditional support for people who want free in
democratic society. We're not talking about military action, We're not
talking about blockades. We are talking about the possibility of sanctions.
If they continue to brutally repress their people, that would
require some action on our part, just because that's what
(14:41):
the United States of America is all about.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
Wait a second, we don't want British Labor Party officials
coming to Pennsylvania and campaigning for Kamala Harris, and we
didn't want Zelensky coming to Pennsylvania and campaigning for Kamala Harris,
which he did right before the election.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
And yet we bring our senators to.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Ukraine when they're in the middle of a revolution, and
we announce effectively we're on the side of the protesters. Well,
before you go thinking that the protesters of the Boston
Tea Party, let me tell you something. Do you think
that Black Lives Matter represents a protest in America that
(15:31):
most Americans want.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Do you think Antifa does? But what if you were
told that?
Speaker 5 (15:38):
So you've got Yuanukovich who was the duly elected president
of Ukraine who was toppled in a revolution that McCain
at all was involved with. And there were a number
of Ukrainians who were very, very angry over the man
(16:01):
they voted for being pushed out. And oh yeah, but
but the folks who put in the Linskey, they're the
good guys, the Michael Daries somebody. But still clip six
oh seven Ramon. This is a comedian by the name
of John Christ and he had a funny bit about
(16:23):
the we stand for Ukraine crowd.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Everybody on the internet is like acting like mother Teresa
subtube just like on the internet, just like we stand
with Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I go, you don't even have custody of your kids?
Speaker 7 (16:36):
Did what?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Who are you talking to? Pick up your kids from
soccer practice? Then we'll talk about foreign policy. Kevin, We
are living on stolen land.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
I'm like, you're stolen your parents' cell phone plan. You're
on stolen minutes. Brittany, who are you talking too? Follow
me on my fitness journey? You're on Ozivik.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Dude kaisan a Sidu makes the point, I think very
well that we need to stop buying the story that
we need to fight putin forever. Listen, some of these
folks that pulled us into Vietnam, Korea, Nicaragua, some of
these folks that drag us into these forever wars Afghanistan, Iraq,
(17:27):
they have way too much influence. They pound their chest
and they're the most patriotic in patriotic, and they love
the troops. But in fact they don't love the troops.
They have Zelenski saying, view you just use them as
cannon fodder. They're not out for what's best for America.
But here anyway, here's the point. You're Americans.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
If you're waving a Ukrainian flag or putting a Ukrainian
flag in your bio, I want to ask you what
exactly are you supporting. Are you supporting a war that
the US and europe sparks by constantly expanding NATO closer
to Russian borders since nineteen ninety four. Are you supporting
a war that was sparked by the US helping to
overthrow a democratically elected Ukrainian president in twenty fourteen because
(18:09):
he was pro Russian.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Are you supporting a war.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
That was insticated by Biden supporting Ukraine joining NATO in
twenty twenty one, which would be like Mexico entering a
military alliance with Russia. Are you supporting funding war or
forging peace? Now, to be clear, Putin started this war.
Putin broke international law. Putin has blood on his hands.
But our government has been giving other governments excuses to
(18:34):
fight wars. Weapons companies who own our politicians profit from
war and find new reasons to start war give them excuses. USAID,
which has been undermining foreign governments under the guise of
humanitarian aid, gives them excuses. Cowardly Republican and Democrat career
(18:54):
politicians who go along with all of that, give them excuses.
If we want to stop wars, then we need to
stop giving other countries reasons to start them. Now, we
can all have empathy for Zelenski. He's had to endure
three years of watching his people suffer at the hands
of Putin, but Legacy media painted him as a victim
(19:15):
in that press conference. They ignored how Zelenski behaved for
the first thirty nine minutes of a fifty minute press conference.
They ignore that Zelenski kept calling Putin a killer and
a terrorist while our president was trying to make peace.
They ignore that Zelenski said Russia should pay for everything
while our president was trying to make a deal. They
(19:36):
ignore that Zelensky threatened Americans that Putin will attack America
while we're tried to stop the attacks on Ukraine. They
ignore that Zelenski is fighting a war with money that
isn't his while our president is fighting for peace. Stop
buying this. Stop buying the story that we need to
fight Putin forever. Stop buying the story that we need
(19:58):
to use American money for Ukraine and Russians to die.
Stop buying the story that Trump talking to put In
to create peace is somehow wrong. Stop and ask yourself
what exactly are you supporting. Are you supporting Peith for
the Ukrainian people, or are you supporting governments who get
(20:18):
in the way of peace?
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Thought to yourself as you listen to that h who's
Kaisan a sido? He's just a black dude. He calls
himself a motivational speaker.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I don't know. He may have a mortgage company.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
I don't know. He may have a few other things
going side hustles, But there is an interesting thing happening
right now where black people are getting a lot of
what's called clout, which is when people repost your stuff
and comment on it and you get a great response.
There are random black people who are not famous and
(21:01):
don't hold a position and aren't an elected official who
are simply putting a camera on their face and saying
things about what's going on in this country. And what's
making them famous is this isn't World Star. They're not
claiming racism, they're not They're talking about the fact that
Trump is doing good things and that is a radical
(21:26):
act for a black person to take in twenty twenty five.
And because of that, a lot of white people and
a lot of black people are reposting what they have
to say, and they are developing a voice. And you're
noticing this viral, this trend of virality for average average
(21:48):
black woman, average black guy that works as a trainer
or barista or raises kids, and they're simply talking into
their phone with the camera on their face.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Maybe the camera's moving around. A lot of them are in.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Their car and they're explaining kind of a you know, hey,
here's what's really happening. Here's what I perceive is happening.
And there is such a welcome audience for Hey, look
at this. Jasmine Crockett doesn't speak for black people. Shila
Jackson Lee didn't speak for black people. Barack Obama didn't
(22:23):
speak for black people. Guess what black people have brains too.
Black people are tired of illegal immigration. Black people are
tired of our money being spent to being sent to Ukraine.
Black people are tired of the waste and corruption in government.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
So that's who kaisen us s do is.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
It was on this day in nineteen thirty one that
our Star Spangled banner was made officially the national anthem.
It's a great story behind our national anthem, and I'll
tell you that coming up.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Michael Berry The Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
In seventeen seventy six, tensions had been high with our
cousins back in England, and it was determined that we
would no longer be a part of the Kingdom. We
would declare our independence. We don't belong to you anymore.
(23:26):
We are no longer your colony. King George, you can.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Stick it up your bum.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
So they said no, Ain't that easy? So we fought
it out and we won. But that was not to
be the end of their desire to control these colonies.
Almost forty years later there was another war fought in
the same matter, and it came to be known as
(23:54):
the War of eighteen twelve, but it lasted beyond eighteen twelve.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
And so it was in.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
September of eighteen fourteen August twenty eighth to be exact,
that a doctor by the name of William Beans.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
He lived in Maryland. The British had burned.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Washington, and what came to be was the burning of
Washington and the raid on Alexandria. They behaved very badly,
as the British were wont to do in those days,
and doctor Beans, according to the British, helped some folks
grab hold of some of the British army stragglers who
(24:40):
were in the process of ransacking homes. They claimed they
were ransacking the homes in search of food. The colonists
claim the American sorry, claim, no, you weren't. You're trying
to do maximum damage. Well, doctor Beans helped hold back
some of these guys detain them since they might be punished. Well,
(25:03):
he fell into the hands of the British, and that
was not a good thing. He had a friend who
has described as a poet.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
But he was really a lawyer. He was a lawyer
to pay his bills.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
He was a poet in the way that you know
folks have a garage band. But we can call him
a poet, I guess for the purposes of this story.
This is not a Netflix show. This is Michael Berry show.
So Francis scott Key was his friend, and he sent
for Francis scott Key and he would join a mutual
(25:43):
friend of theirs, and he would take a ship across
to talk with the British, have dinner and secure the
release of his buddy. And in the process of heading
back after he witnessed the bombardment of Fort McHenry Our
Fort by the British Royal Navy during what came to
(26:06):
be known as the Battle of Baltimore in the War
of eighteen twelve, he was very, very inspired by a
massive US flag that had been hoisted proud Americans. It
had fifteen stars and fifteen stripes at the time, because
of course we didn't have fifty states. And he wrote
(26:26):
a poem called the Defense or just Defense of Fort McHenry,
and it came to be known in time as the
star Spangled Banner, or it was also known as the
Great Garrison Flag, because it was the garrison flag that
flew over Fort McHenry in Baltimore Harbor during the naval
(26:50):
portion of the Battle of Baltimore. It's still on exhibit
in the National Museum of American History. Well, that that poem,
as it advanced and came to be known over the
years by various names, that song became sort of an
(27:13):
American bit of pride, and that song took on more
and more meaning. Francis Scott Key would give the poem
to his brother in law, the loved by the name
of Joseph Nicholson, and he noticed in reading it that
the words fit a very popular medley at the time
(27:33):
called the Anacreontic Song. It was by interestingly enough English
composer named John Stafford Smith.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
And this song, the.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Nacre On Tick Song, not an easy word to say,
was the official song of that society, and that was
a gentleman's club of amateur musicians in London.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
So Francis Scott Key's brother in.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Law Nicholson, took the poem to a printer in Baltimore,
and we don't know his name, but he made the
first known broadside. It was called printing on September seventeenth.
There are two of those that remained. A broadside are
also known musicians will call it. A broad sheet is
(28:21):
a single sheet of inexpensive paper printed on one side,
and so it's used to print songs or illustration.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Well.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
The song keeps building in popularity throughout the eighteen hundreds
and nineteenth century, especially on Independence Day, and more and
more it came to be known as the Star Spangled Banner,
and in nineteen eighty nine, the US Navy officially adopted it,
(28:51):
and it wasn't until nineteen sixteen, a full hundred and
two years later, that President Woodrow Wilson ordered that the
Star Spangled Banner be played at military occasions and other
appropriate American occasions. The playing of the song two years later,
during the seventh inning stretch of Game one of the
nineteen eighteen World Series, is considered the first time that
(29:14):
it was played at a baseball game, which it came
to be known as something we would do to open
sporting events, and of course that tradition continues on to
this day. And it wasn't until nineteen twenty nine that
John Charles Linscombe, who was a US Congressman from Maryland
at the time, because remember there's a great Maryland story,
(29:35):
this is a Battle of Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
From nineteen eighteen to nineteen twenty nine.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
He would keep trying to get this song to be
the national song, the song for the whole nation, the
anthem for the whole nation, so the national anthem. And
it wasn't until nineteen thirty one, on this day in
nineteen thirty one, February I sorted March third, nineteen thirty
one that by congressional resolution it became known as our
(30:06):
nation's anthem, our national anthem. Prior to that, it was
Hail Columbia. Until most until the greater part of the
nineteenth century, then there was my country tis of thee,
which is identical to God Save the King. Because again
our original colonists were Englishmen, and so our music was
(30:27):
from the English tradition. There have been arguments made for
America the Beautiful, and of course there is an attempt
to make a separate black national anthem, which is ridiculous.
A nation has an anthem. We don't divide up by
tribes in this country. It's distinctly un America.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
And so there you are.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
That is the history of our nation's anthem, the Star
Spangled Banner. Born of war, born of valor, born of
the pen of an imperfect man. How very fitting for
America today. Thanks for listening, my fellow Americans. God bless America.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Every Elvis has left. Good men, thank you, and good night.
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