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So one of the FBI agents that I communicate with
told me that I guess a couple of days ago
was Dan Bongino's first I don't remember what day it was,
but he said that the FBI agents know where the
other FBI agents are if they're sitting at their desk,
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so you can see, oh, you know, is Jones at
his desk in Baltimore or Smith at his desk and
Los Angeles and this agent I think works not out
of DC, but so maybe Maryland anyway, he said. So
I looked at Bongino's desk and there was the green dot,
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and it was pretty awesome to think Dan Bongino is
at his desk ready for work. And I thought it
was just kind of a cool insight, right, because we
think of g Man and different Deep state people as being,
you know, something other than somebody who also likes to
play a video game. And the little things like that,
I mean, who doesn't remember their first day of kindergarten
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and how scared you were going into kindergarten or your
first day of elementary I mean of middle school, high school, college,
your first job, your first job interview. Little moments like
that are what makes life, you know, cool. You go
to the office every day, you sit down up your reports, and.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
This day you go, huh, I kind of like Mangino.
That pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
He's coming near to the FBI. I wonder if he'll
be on the on the org chart. I wonder if
he'll tell us that he's at his desk and there
it is. FBI Director Cash Patel was addressing these FBI
agents when he told them how many violent felons they
had arrested in the past few weeks. Because you see,
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you're working your case, but you don't know how many
other folks are working their cases and how the results
are coming.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Well, it sounds pretty good to me.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
In just two and four weeks, we have arrested over
three hundred violent felonies gang members, including MS thirteen and
eighteen gangsters.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
We have taken seizure.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Of hundreds of pounds of narcotics and hundreds of weapons
and currency and illicit goods. That's just what you can
do when you put the brave men and women of
law enforcement in one room and get.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
The hell out of their way.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
And we're going to do that in every state across
this country. In Massachusetts alone, in the last couple of weeks,
they have indicted federally over fifty violent gang members and
narco traffick are seizing almost two hundred kilograms of fentanyl.
When there is no time for us to waste on
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this job. And that's why under President Trump's leadership, in
general Bondi's leadership, we've been instructed to get after it,
and that's exactly what we are doing. We have to
especially get after it when we lose an American citizen
every seven minutes to drug overdose. We have to especially
get after it when a man or child is excuse me,
a woman or child is raped in this country nearly
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every six minutes, and we have to especially get after
it when there are two homicides nearly every hour in
this country, violent crime is exploding, and it is a
direct result of the border invasion that occurred. Thanks to
this administration and thanks to your relentless work on the
field of battle to protect our citizenry, we are finally
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curbing those astronomical numbers. And what that means is we
are saving American lives. We are providing our children with
safe schools and playgrounds so that they can be educated
and grow up in a fun neighborhood like we all
had the privilege of doing in this great community.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Pretty well said, not exactly, Jim Comey hiding behind the curtain?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Is he?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Pretty good stuff right there? Pretty good stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I've been sitting on this for a few days and
I'm going to play it for you now.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
It was on Fox News. This is six h three ramon.
Speaker 6 (04:39):
The Trump DHS is launching a new self deportation app
for illegal immigrants, giving those in the US illegally an
incentive to cooperate, and Buibulus is live in La with
more I will data.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Good morning to you. So this is pretty remarkable.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
The Trump administration has taken that controversial CBP one cell
phone app for migrants that the Biden administration was using
and they've reaped purposed it into a self deportation app
that is officially launching today and we're getting an exclusive
first look at it.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Take a look. The app is now called CBP Home.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
It allows illegal aliens in the US to register to
self deport.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
They fill out biographical.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Information including their countries of citizenship, which country they plan
to return to, their alien registration numbers, their contact information,
and it allows them to upload photos of themselves to
confirm their identity. All of it is then submitted to
CBP and they leave the country. Now you might be
asking yourself, well, why would an illegal immigrant want.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
To self deport?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Well, DHS says, if they leave now, they will have
the opportunity to return to the US legally in the
future and chase the American dream. But if they don't leave,
they will be found, arrested, detained, and deported with the
permanent ban on entry into the United States. In the
same into Fox News, DHS Secretary of Christy Noomes said,
in part quote, the Biden administration exploited the CBP Want
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app to allow more than one million aliens to illegally
enter the US United States with the launching of the
CBP home app. We are restoring integrity to our immigration system.
If they don't self deport, we will find them to
port them, and.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
They will never return.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
The Biden administration's use of the CBP one app allowed
more than forty thousand migrants to come into the US
at a port of entry every single month. That totaled
nearly one million migrants by the end of his presidency.
President Trump terminated that app immediately upon taking office, leading
scenes like this showing migrants dismayed at the border on
the day of his inauguration as they learned their CBP
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one appointments were canceled and were never coming back. And
DHS tells me that any migrants who had that CBP
one app on their phone will see it automatically update
to this new self deportation app starting today, and DHS
can also use the data from the prior CBP one
registrations to track migrants for removal. So, in a nutshell,
data Trump just took Biden's program which was bringing migrants in,
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and has now totally repurposed it to get them out.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
I started hearing some radio ads that were mirroring some
of the ads from the new secretary on cable. Now
they're now in radio and they're going to be in
those countries as well, in targeting them so that they
know not to come or to go ahead and get themselves.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Out of the country.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
The thing that nobody expected was how many illegals are
self deporting. And it's important to understand. You you think
about the laws of unintended consequences, which is a great
limitation on our ability to predict with any effectiveness many things.
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Because we can say, hey, we're going to take away
all the corn that people can grow, Well, what we
won't know is there's going to be a black market
in corn, as opposed to people thinking, oh, well, they'll
just switch over to potatoes. But once the illegals saw
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that Trump was serious, once they began to respect and
fear the process, what happened. They said, we better get
home before we show up on a list here and
then we can never come back.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
They believed him the threat was real.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
The Michael Verry Show, I saw a meme. It was
our me. Our mem guru made it. But he took
the home Depot logo and he made it.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Homan Tom Homan.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
The borders are He made it Homan Deport pretty funny.
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Place to get it.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Is also an opportunity for you to respond to that
email that comes directly to me so, as crazy as
it may sound, and people can't believe it's true. We
will get too big for me to read every email.
But we're not there yet because I devote a lot
of time to it. So anyway, Tom Homan was on
Fox News a couple days ago with Lawrence Jones when
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he was asked what he was going to do now
that a rogue judge blocked deportations. And here's what that
great man said.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
You've got to run out of money.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
It doesn't look like you're getting support from the Democrats
on this.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
You got You're going against the judges. Now, what's next?
Another flight, another flight? Every day? It teams.
Speaker 7 (10:47):
The teams are going to be out there every day,
every day. The men and women of ICE are going
to be in the neighborhoods of this nation arresting criminal,
illegal al in public states.
Speaker 8 (10:56):
The thrusts and national security thrust.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Lawrence, you're not going to stop.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
We made a promised to American people. The President Trump
has made a promise to American people. We're going to
make this country safe again. I wake up every morning
loving my job because I work for the greatest president
in the history of my life. And we're going to
make this country safe again. I'm probably be a part
of this administration.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
We're not stopping.
Speaker 8 (11:17):
I don't care whether judges think, I don't care the leftings.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
We're coming, unabashed, unashamed, unafraid.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Tom Homan personnel is everything.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Sports talkers, coaches, commentators will tell you that winning football
games in the NFL is largely Jimmys and Jimmy's and Joe's,
not x's and o's. The determination of most sporting events
is most of the time going to go to the
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more talented team. Now, a phenomenal coach can occasionally take
a lesser quality team and beat a better quality team.
To quote Phillips about Don Shula, he can take his
in and beat Urine and urine and beat his'n. But
by and large it's better personnel. And what Trump has
done in Trump two point zero, which was not the
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first administration, he did not do this. What he has
done this time is he has said, I'm not letting
the swamp pick my guys. I'm not picking guys as
a peace offering to somebody. I'm picking guys that we
don't have much time here. We got to get in
and get to work and Tom Homan is.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
That guy here. He is talking to Steven A.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Smith, who's a sports reporter who's all of a sudden
become kind of awake to what's going on, and Hey,
I'm here for it. I don't care all the stupid
stuff you said in the past. You're saying good stuff. Now,
come on board.
Speaker 9 (12:46):
Prior to the election, you pledge to conduct the largest
deportation in American history. That is more than eleven million
undocumented immigrants living in the United States. Where do we
stand today in terms of identifying those individuals and deporting
them out of the country.
Speaker 8 (13:02):
Great question, because I wrote the Media Store this morning.
We're deporting less people than Joe Biden. Yeah, because Joe
Biden had millions of people coming across border every year
and a lot Borgatoes are removing a lot of them,
So you can't compare. The administration isn't how many removed.
It's our number one. How many did you release in
their country legally? And Biden administration is in the millions.
Speaker 7 (13:21):
And the more important question is how many interior arrests
people in the interior countries you rest. If you look
at those numbers, we're about three times hired and Joe
Biden was during the same time period, we got about
thirty six thousand rest so far vast majority of criminals.
Because President Trumps promised American people on this mass deportation
operation the worst first, the criminals first, because you're the
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biggest danger in your communities, national security threats, public safety threats.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
That's when we're concentrating on them.
Speaker 8 (13:46):
But that aperture will open to the one point four
men that had due process, a great tax payer expense,
we're order removed instead of leaving it became excusitive. That
aperture will open up. So you will see the rest
increased in the very near future. But the problem is
sanctuary cities. Sanctuary cities are making us less efficient. Well
read in one agent arrests and one bad guy in
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the jail. Now we've got to send the whole team
into the neighborhood for off for safety reasons, to find
somebody that want to be found. So that's stowing us up.
But what we'll do, we'll double themandforce those sanctuary cities.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
We'll double the teams.
Speaker 8 (14:20):
We're not going to be stopped and we'll overcome all
the roadblocks are putting in. But we're gonna get it done.
It's a different day. That's Tom Holman, Okay, Who's the
borders are? Of course, Christy Nolan is the DHS secretary,
Department of Homeland Security secretary. But Alejandro Majorcus was head
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of Department of Homeland Security and that little solid off
communist was so bad. Remember when Ted Cruz absolutely destroyed him.
This is the difference in personnel we went from from
this guy that's coming up to Tom Holman and Christy Nolan.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
It's a world of difference. But listen to this and
to enjoy it.
Speaker 10 (15:01):
You're a lawyer, you know how to answer questions. This
is a photograph from just one day along the Rio
Grand of hundreds of thousands of people walking across the border.
You have allowed this to happen the photograph that was before.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
What are these risk bands? I don't know what they are.
Speaker 10 (15:15):
You don't know what they are, mister secretary. You have
just testified to the American people you're incompetent at your job.
Along the southern border, you'd see thousands of these risk
bands because the illegal immigrants wear them. Every color corresponds
to how many thousands of dollars they owe. The cartels
you have turned these calls into multi billion.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Dollar criminal organization.
Speaker 10 (15:35):
And these are modern day leg eyrons because these are
children being sold into spree and you don't even know
what they are. That is astonishing, Your secretary, I want
to say to you right now, your behavior is disgraceful
and the deaths they are at your feet. You won't
even admit this human tragedy is at this crisis, and
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if you had integrity, you would resign.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Dang ted Cruz, dang bullying that poor boy.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
We're going to be changing the name of the Gulf
of Mexico to the Gulf of Michael Perry, which has
a beautiful way.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
America often, not always, but often gets it wrong in
the internal civil wars. I guess that's repetitive in the
civil wars of other countries, especially and perhaps most disturbingly,
in the Middle East. So, as I point out many times,
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I don't think the Iraq War result is ideal. First
of all, we sacrificed a lot of our men and
people will tell me, yeah, it was for Iraqi democracy. Well,
let me ask you this, then, I shut if Iraqi
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democracy were to bring in someone worse than Sodom Hussein
is that progress or does that lead us backward to
which you're supposed to say? What doesn't matter if he's
better or worse than Saddam Hussein, because now the people
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will have chosen him. Okay, two things. Number One, that
means you trust that the election was fair. We didn't
have a fair election in twenty twenty. You think they
did any rock? You really believe that?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Number Two?
Speaker 4 (17:33):
All right, what if the leader the people want is
a leader who wants to, let's say, organize terror cells
to come to the United States and kill us all
What if the leader that their people want wants to
eliminate Israel and for that matter, Saudi Arabia, Cutter, UAE,
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and a number of others. I mean, we're speaking hypothetically,
but are you really that concerned with self determination in
foreign countries that you're willing for our boys to die
so that other people can get to choose a leader
when we know good and well that those countries, the
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majority of those of the people in those countries do
not share our values. So they're not going to replace
whoever is there with someone who's going to be to
share the values that we would have. So let's go
back to Germany after World War One. And let's say
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that you had I don't know, Kaiser Wilhelm, and he
is we could argue an illegitimate leader. And let's say
the German people in time grew increasingly to love some guy.
Would just give him any random old name. Let's call him,
I don't Adolf Hitler. And let's say that Adolf Hitler
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inflamed the past, captured the resentments, and became the face
for the angry German who felt wronged by the Treaty
of Versailles.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
And let's say that.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Now that they had they're duly elected leader, that he
then consolidated power, because you know, he was duly elected,
so that he took over as the chancellor as well.
And let's say that that individual consolidated all military power.
And just hypothetically, let's say he created a great air
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force Luftwaffe. We'll call it a great army. He put
great generals, we'll call him Rommel. Let's say that that
guy started saber rattling and then attacking and invading other countries,
and he was destroying all of Western Europe and much
of Eastern Europe. Would this still have been a good thing?
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And what if we had assisted him in coming to
power by debilitating destabilizing the regime that he replaced. I'm
not saying we did, but I'm saying, let's use an example.
What if we had. Well, let's go to Libya. It
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was very important that we get Kadaffi out because Kadaffi bad.
Kadaffi bad. The John Bolton's of the world. Kadaffi bad.
There have been John Boltons for a long time. Guys
that benefit from this, Guys that masturbate to this, Guys
that want us to dethrone destabilize the leaders of other countries.
So we assisted in the dethroning of Molmarketdafi, and then
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we were so happy because here were pictures of him
being slaughtered by people in communities.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
That hated him.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
And he was a bad guy, remember, Okay, but he
wasn't causing as any.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Problems as of that time.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Reagan bombing his daughter to death had really brought him
to bear, put him under foot. But we had to
get him out of there, and he replaced with the
Muslim Brotherhood. Do I need to remind you what happened
on September eleventh, not the original September eleventh. Do I
need to remind you what happened on September eleventh then
what they did to our men, our ambassador, our navy seals,
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our contract workers. Okay, let's talk about Egypt, Hosley Mubar. Well,
we were told there was an Arab spring going on,
so Barack Obama kept timezed. It was this outpouring of
just people that wanted self determination, and Mubarak had been
there for too darn long, and they wanted their own
government of their own people. They wanted the Muslim brotherhood,
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they wanted an Islamist state. The people wanted that. What
do you do when the people want that, Well, there
is one American belief that you let them have what
they want. Well, that immediately caused a number of problems
in the region. And by the way, it wasn't a
spontaneous outbreak of people as an Arab spring that was
all alive. All right, Well, let's keep going. What about Syria. Yeah,
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Siria is a great example. So Basher Asad's a horrible person. Okay,
we all agree, he's a person, a terrible person. He's
not nice to the people in his country, and he
inherited the throne from his father. Okay, and he lives
like a king, and he takes a lot of money
out of the country and lives like a king. He
went to school in London. He's a rich little lord
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Fauntleroy punk and oh and he's friends with Putin.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Well, we can't have that, not Putin, because remember Putin's
evil and any friend of Putin is a bad guy.
Siria is probably the most complicated country in the world
considering where it's located.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Look at it on the map.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
There are pieces of that country that practically belong to
their neighbors. Well, a coalition of Iran and Russia, and
Syria's leader, although he wasn't really contributing that much to it,
was keeping him in power, and in keeping him in power,
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they were keeping the region relatively stable. But Assad had
to go. Let's go back to twenty sixteen. This is
Donald Trump telling Hillary Clinton that arming the rebels against
Assad is a mistake.
Speaker 11 (23:19):
Now she talks tough, She talks really tough against against
Putin and against Asad. She talks in favor of the rebels.
She doesn't even know who the rebels are. You know,
every time we take rebels, whether it's in Iraq or
anywhere else, We're arming people and you know what happens.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
They end up being worse than the people.
Speaker 11 (23:39):
Look at what she did in Libya with Kadeffy Kaduffy's out.
It's a mess. And by the way, ISIS has a
good chunk of their oily. I'm sure you probably have
heard that.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Now, let's close this segment with a flashback from a
year earlier, twenty fifteen, where Donald Trump was predicting right
now what we're seeing, which is these rebels have turned
out to be far worse than Asad's government.
Speaker 11 (24:02):
So I've watched Asad and I've watched a little bit
on the other side.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
The problem is the other side of the side.
Speaker 11 (24:07):
We have no idea who they are. They probably are Rasis,
I'm saying, are we been off with a SOD? We
have no idea who these people are. We give them weapons,
we give them ammunition, we give them everything.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Aaron, we have no idea who. I mean.
Speaker 11 (24:18):
Maybe it's worse than a SOD. So what are we doing?
Why are we involved? We have to get rid of Isis,
very importantly. But I look at a side and a
SOD to me looks better than the other side, and
you know this has happened before. We back a certain
side and that side turns out to be a total catastrophe.
Russia likes asad seemingly a lot. Let them worry about isis.
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Let them bite it down.
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Speaker 4 (24:50):
They have long been fascinated in executions, not so much
the death part of it, but the politics and the
ca culture behind it. How we punish for violations of
the laws that we write by which we govern our society.
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For instance, there are some Scandinavian countries who do not
take punishment seriously at all. And you'll see some guy
that gets ten years for a murder or fifteen for
a brutal, violent murder, and you imagine he's out in
fifteen years. Wow, that can't happen, right, although it does
happen here, but it's kind of codified in those countries.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Especially Sweden, I think is terrible about this.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
And that was fine before they imported a lot of
violent Middle Easterners, and now they're having to rethink every
aspect of their code, every aspect of their punishment system.
Because now you've got some people who didn't grow up
with your culture. You got some people that are angry
and brutal and women hating and child rape, and they've
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seen it, and your knifings have gone through the roof,
your rapes have gone through the roof. People would love
to believe that every culture around the world is exactly
the same, but they're not.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
They're simply not. There is a reason that you don't
vacation in the Middle East.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
No matter how rich they are, they can build all
and they can build anything and everything they want in
the Middle East, nobody's going there on vacation. The live
golfers didn't go there because they can't wait for that
heat or the beautiful greens. They went there because they
got paid a bunch of money and they'll leave the
second they can. Anyway, back to the issue of punishment.
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There was a story I don't know how long it's
been recently. It was in South Carolina. And I pull
these stories, or our team does, and that I don't
get to them, and then I worry that it's going
to be too far gone for me to be able
to play the story for you or tell you the story.
There was a fellow named Brad Sigmund, and I believe
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it's South Carolina. It's been a while since I listened
to this. And he decided that he was going to be.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Put to death.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
He had beat his girlfriend's parents to death many years ago,
and he decided that he wanted to be executed.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
By firing squad.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
He didn't want the juice, he didn't want the electric
he wanted firing squad. So South Carolina, to their credit, accommodated,
and then they had an AP reporter associated press reporter
named Jeffrey Collins, who's not a great storyteller, but he
told the story afterwards to the He's what's called the
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pool reporter. So when you have a private meeting or
a small space or an event like this where they
don't want to let a lot of people in, you'll
have a pool reporter and that person will go in
and witness it, and they come out and tell all
the other reporters what happened, so they kind of become
the press secretary for the events. A long standing tradition
to have a pool reporter. So what you're gonna hear
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is the Pool reporter. And by the way, if at
the end of hearing this, you think to yourself, Zar,
why did you play that again? I think I missed
the point. There's really not a point. I don't make
a point in every segment. There's not a point to everything.
We do some things, sure, most things. But sometimes I'm
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just curious or I'm interested, and I'll admit it. Sometimes
I'll pick up the National Inquirer if it's in front
of me, And sometimes I'll pick up some tabloid article
that's stupid, mostly just to see if Tom Cruise really
does have fourheads, or if whoever he's married to is
a man or a woman, or if those pictures they
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claim they got of this or that person look authentic
or not.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah, I'll peek. Okay, not all the time.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
I'm not sitting at home eating bowls of Bluebelt ice
cream watching Mariy.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Povich all day.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
But if I walk behind there's an old Maury Povich,
so on, I'll take a moment and let's see, let
me remember how bad this was. I don't remember how
bad this was. Oh yeah, okay, yeah that's pretty bad.
It's yep, that's pretty bad. So anyway, with absolutely no
redeeming value. If there are kids in the car, if
you're squeamish, if this upsets you, whatever else. It's a
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three minute, thirteen second.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Clip.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Feel free to tune us out for three minutes and
thirteen seconds. My program directors hate that, so that you
don't have to get upset because you heard something about
this execution. Because that's really the only reason I'm playing
it for you. I'll tell you one other thing. I'm
fascinated by last meals. And in the state of Texas,
before we killed you, we would first give you the
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meal of your choice, an amazing, amazing meal, and you
could choose whatever you want as long as our kitchen
could make it. At the commissary and so I used
to play this game called White or Black, and it
would be the last meal of a murderer before he
was going to be executed.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
And you couldn't tell the difference.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Anybody who thinks they know what blacks or whites eat,
poor blacks and poor whites all put on the list
the same thing. It was always fried chicken, watermelon, ice cream,
sweet tea.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
It was all because you couldn't have alcohol.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
It was always the same sorts of things every single time,
which I found to be fascinating.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Fascinating. All right, So here's the reporters clip. My name
is Jeffrey Collins. I'm with the Associated Press. That's j
E F F R E Y CO L L I
N S. And what I'll do is I'll just kind
of walk you through what I saw today. So the
curtain opened, it was about looking at my notes around.
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It was about six oh one, maybe a little bit
after that, and the curtain opened. Brad Stevens was strapped
into the chair. Unlike other death executions I've seen, he
was in a black jump suit, had black crocs like
shoes on. He was completely strapped in. It looked like
there was a harness over him. There was a strap
over his head, there was his ankles were shackled. He
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had a covering over his mouth that you know. It
was from about here down. When the curtain opened, he
looked towards his attorney, who was on the front row
of the witness.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
They kind of exchanged.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
They had an exchange. I couldn't tell because his mouth
was covered with what they were mouthing back and forth
to each other, but it looked like he was just
saying he was okay to his attorney.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Sigmund did.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
At that point, they had the attorney came out and
read the final statement. When the final statement was read, well,
let me back at one step. He had a target
over his heart. When the curtain opened, it was already there.
It was a little rectangle white paper, or I'm assuming
his paper could have been cloth.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
They had a bullseye on it.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
It had one outer ring and one enter ring on it.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
It was red.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
The bulls eye was read, so they came out read
his final statement at that point. The when that was finished,
they the prison employee got a hood put the hood
over Sigmund's head. Then that prison employee walked from the
chair the fifteen feet over to where there's a brick wall,
and at that point there's a black shade like one
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of those shades that you pull down and it rolls
up so that there's a black shade there. The prison
employee lifted up the shade and then from that point
it was a little less than two minutes of nothing.
At that moment, I mean, you could see Brad Sigmund
took several pretty deep breasts and then suddenly the shots
sprang out at I believe Christy said it was six
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oh five and fifty seconds. At that point, you did
see a small red stain on Sigmund's chest. It was
irregularly shaped, but oval, if that makes sense. I mean
like it wasn't like a circle, It was an oval shape.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I saw.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
It looked like he may have taken a couple of
his chest rose and fell about two times. Immediately after
the shots. You could see a tiny piece of like
tissue or something that was coming out of that at
that point. Also his arm ten stuff when he got shot.
There's kind of a free moment of tensing after that.
The doctor was in there fairly quickly, less than a
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minute after the shots came. I couldn't see exactly what
the doctor did because my my my viewpoint was was
blocked from him his back. But he did an examination
for about ninety seconds, and then he walked back towards
the UH the other side of the room, walking from
left to right as mom viewing. And then that's when
the UH that's when the prison employee announced six o'
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eight is the time of death, and
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Thank you and good night.