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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Astronaut Clayton Anderson is our guest. With space being in
the news, who better to join the show. He saw
him on Fox News as their expert on the matter
last week. Clayton, let's start with your reaction emotionally, personally,
professionally when you saw our astronauts come home last week.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
That was pretty thrilled. You know, I've been removed from
that game for I don't know, probably fifteen years now,
but I replaced Sonny as back in two thousand and
seven when she had finished her first flight. So I
have a kindred spirit with my Space sister, and it
(00:44):
was important for them to get home safely after all that,
and I'm glad they did.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I know, you stay up on NASA matters and space matters.
What happened, my understanding is they were going up for
a few days, and nine months later they were branded there.
Can you explain that?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, I don't know if i'd use the word stranded,
but the star Liner, the Boeing star Liner, took them
up for an eight to ten day test flight with
a crew, and then they had thrust problems. So then
they said, well, let's keep them on there for a while,
which is an awesome answer, right to spend a couple
months on the space station while we look at the
star Liner and try to figure out what happened. So
(01:24):
they do all that, and then they come to the
conclusion that, well, you know, we're not going to be
able to fix the problems, and we don't want Butcher's
Sonny to risk coming back on the star Liner, and
so they send it back empty. Well, now they are
stranded for a brief period because they don't have a
rescue craft. You know, whenever you fly to the space station,
(01:45):
the seat that you fly in to the station on
is your escape seat to go home. And so that's
why they needed the SpaceX crew to come up with
two empty seats so they could dock and stay there
and bring the Sonny home. The thing I don't really
understand is why they made those that crew spend their
(02:05):
whole increment and made Butch and Sonny spend that whole increment,
which then drove for the nine months. That's the part
I don't know, and I'm not privy to all.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Right, Clayton, if you wouldn't say they were stranded there,
what word.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Would you use? I would say, give.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Me a better word. That's more descriptive.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Okay, So between the time when the star Liner left
and the time the SpaceX Dragon came up with two
empty seats, they were kind of stranded, so my bad.
But once they get up there, there's plenty of food,
there's plenty of water, there's plenty of oxygen, there's plenty
of clothes, so you know, and it's a very safe environment.
We understand that environment. We've understood it for you know,
(02:47):
twenty something years now, so and they could contribute to
the mission objective of doing science and repair and maintenance
and all those good things.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
That's a long period of time, so there had to
have been provision made obviously for things like food and water.
Do you have any sense of the length of those
provisions those stocks? I mean, how long could this have
gone on?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
It can go on for quite a while. What we
have to understand is that the supply chain to get
supplies back and forth from the International Space Station was
never broken, right progress vehicles came from Russia, other vehicles
bring stuff up, so that part was intact. So there
was plenty of food, plenty of water, and they were
never worried. From that aspect, I would imagine Once they
(03:43):
figured out Sonny and Butch were going to be there
for a while, they did a little bit of scrambling
to get clothing in their size and those sorts of
things on the next delivery vehicle to come up to them.
But once all that happened, it's pretty much steady as
she goes.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Well, the problem with that is women will often lie
about their sizes because they don't want to be there.
So you had, I guess you have to. You have
to prepare on that account, you know, and add a
little extra fluff.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, I'm sure that was done. You know.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Uh, you know, I buy all my pants now with
with an element that we didn't have growing up with
the you know, the Levi's, and it's it's a little
a little stretch factor, so they can they can stretch
out or or close up, depending on how I'm doing
that week. Maybe maybe they did that.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Well. You know, it's funny. I lost both times I
flew five months and two weeks, and both times I
lost the same amount of weight twelve pounds when I
got up to space, and of course I gained it
right back when I came back to Earth.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
All Right, I have a question. We're going to handle
this delicately, but we have to handle it because I've
always been curious. So you use whatever words you want
to use to keep it clinical. But how does one
how does one pass a movement when you're up there.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
The same way you pass a movement when you're down here.
You just need a little bit of a vacuum cleaner.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Oh okay, And and the same for for the same
for the pep.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yes, the the pepe is you just pee into a
hose and it sucks it down into a can. And
back in those days we use kind of Russian kitty
litter was inside the can some some form of absorption.
And then in the number two there's a plastic bag
that has holes in it, and the holes allow the
fan to draw the air through that bag, which then
(05:41):
inflates or opens it so you can drop your addition
into the uh into the fray. And then you take
all your clean up things, your your gauze, your toilet tissue,
your gloves, all those things, and you put it in
that little plastic bag and then you snap the top off.
It has a nice tight rubber band, and then you
pushing down in the can and you're good to go.
(06:02):
For the next time.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Are you anxious and tense when you're doing such things
or does it just become second nature.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
The very first time on the Shuttle, I was scared
to death. I read that checklist one hundred times and
I made sure everything was good to go. It was
all successful. But I learned one thing, and that was
the next time I was going to go number two
on any space vehicle. I was getting naked. I was
taking off everything because I didn't need anything inhibiting me.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Right, Interesting, how does it change you? How emotionally physically? Anything?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Like?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
What are the things we would take for granted ury
that we wouldn't notice that space does to you.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Physically? I don't think much. For me. My five months
and my rehab took about three weeks coming home. I
think Sonny and Butch will probably have double that. Maybe,
But what it did for me was it strengthened my
faith in God. As I looked at Earth, all I
could think of was Man. None of this is random.
You know. You hear about the overview effect and the
(07:08):
orbital perspective that astronauts talk about on occasion, and I
believe all that. All that's true. We're on spaceship Earth. Right,
we should take care of Earth. But for me, it
just strengthened my faith. You know, for a small town
kid from Nebraska that would end up in outer space
for one hundred and sixty seven days and have the
privilege of the things that I was exposed to and
(07:30):
allowed to do. It's all about my faith.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Well, so much of life is, if viewed properly, an
opportunity to get to do something. And most people are
never going to go to space. But whatever that is,
and our ministry where it is, our life, where it is,
our influence where it is, and I think it's all
It goes back to talk about George Foreman and talk
(07:57):
to say just sunny side Jewish. It's all about perspective,
and you have such a good perspective as an astronaut.
You've used it to write children's books. We'll talk to
astronaut Clayton Anderson coming out. This is the Michael Barry Show.
(08:20):
Not every day you get your own customized intro by chance, McLean.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Clin Hey, that was pretty awesome out.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
You know, we would license it. We will license that
to you for your own introductions, for your speeches and things.
If you would like.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Clayton Conrad Anderson is a retired NASA astronaut launchtone STS
one seventeen. He replaced Sunita Williams on June tenth, two
thousand and seven, as a member of the ISS Expedition
fifteen crew. Currently an author, motivational speaker, and professor of
practice at Iowa State University in Ames, Iowa. Twenty twenty two,
(09:02):
he became the president and CEO of the Strategic Air
Command and Aerospace Museum. I just was reading from your
wiki Wikipedia profile. I don't know if you've if you've
checked that out in a while, Clayton, let me ask.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
You a question. I wrote most of it.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
No, I wasn't going to say that. Let me ask
you a question. So in I don't know. Two thousand
and nine or so, Charles Bolden, who was then the
NSA or NASA director, I don't know if you knew
him or not. He gave an interview where he said
that President Trump had given him three goals and none
(09:39):
of them were related to space travel or science. The
third being to tell the Muslim world that they have
a contribution historically to math and science, and you know
that they matter. It was part of the Muslim outreach,
and I thought to myself, you know, a once great
space program has it has now been reduced to patting
(10:02):
countries on the back so they feel good about themselves.
What is the state of NASA today?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
That's a good question. I think there's some unknowns going
on with the new administration and the changes that have
done over the last few years, and the space launch
system is probably concerning given costs and schedule. I mean,
it's always about budget and money and schedule. And when
(10:31):
you have people like SpaceX and Blue Origin and Virgin
Galactic out there pushing the commercial envelope, I think all
that's good. I think it forces us to look at
things in a different light.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Do you think that space travel as we once knew it,
at least as as conducted by NASA is over? And
how do you see SpaceX fitting into all of that.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I don't think it's over. I think that, you know,
having a presence in the federal government is important. You know,
if you look back at Challenger in Colombia, the reason
that we were able to continue on was because of
the push from the federal government. So I think it's
a combination. I think it's important that we have these
commercial space flight companies that are pushing the envelope and
(11:23):
showing us what's possible and bringing the prices down. Those
are all good things. Think about Orville and Wilbur at
Kitty Hawk in nineteen oh three when they food their
right flyer, and now think about what you can do
today on a commercial aircraft. Right. None of that was
believed to be possible back then, but now it is.
It's commercially driven, and it's very safe and used by many,
(11:46):
many people. So I think that's a good analogy. We're
on the cusp of that. We're on the beginning of
that in spaceflight, where Orville and Wilbur might have been
back in nineteen oh three.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
What do you make of Elon's ability to do the
things he's done as a private company on a lean budget.
And yet, I mean, you know, they're sure there are
failures along the way. NASA had failures. It's a dangerous business.
But I'm not a scientist. I don't have the obviously
(12:17):
the experience you do, but I am in awe of
what they have accomplished. But I'm curious your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I am too, you know, as an astronaut who flew
on the Space Shuttle and lived on the Space station.
Those were pretty incredible accomplishments. But if you look at
what he's done and the speed the rate at which
he's done it, it's kind of unprecedented. Now, what folks
have to understand is statistically, down the road, there will
(12:46):
be a problem. There will be a death. You know,
someone will die. Just it's statistics, and we hope that
never happens, right, but I think it's inevitable. And then
how the recovery is from all of that is that's
what's important to me. You know, does he take his
millions and go home or does he stay and fight
the battle and make it better and go again and
(13:08):
all those things. So it's like the explorers in America
back in the day when they started to move west
across the country, right, they were uncovering problems every day
and they were fighting against things they didn't know existed.
So we're in that way in space travel. And I
always talk about the three d's of spaceflight, danger, difficulty,
(13:28):
and dollars, and those are very prevalent. We know it's dangerous,
we oftentimes figure out and fix the difficult, but it's
all about the dollars.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Clayton Anderson, astronaut Clayton Anderson's our guest. I have two
minutes left, so I'm going to be fast because I've
been wanting to ask you about this for a while.
So you served as an aquanaut during the Nemo viv
mission on the Aquarius underwater Laboratory, living and working underwater
for fourteen days. Right, what is the future of our ability?
Jacques Cousteau style to go under the water and spend
(13:59):
any significant time there.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I probably have less expertise. If I have any expertise
in anything, just make something up. But okay, it's fascinating.
I think it's an extreme environment. Right. Space and underwater
are extreme environments outer space and inner space, and those
are perfect places to figure out what humans can do,
what we can stand, how much stress we can take,
(14:25):
how we work together with each other. They're just great
analogies for doing incredible things. So I think, you know,
we should live underwater too. In space and underwater, I
think they're both great venues.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
You know, the mind of a child and what inspires
a child, what they read, what they see, what they hear,
these sorts of things. I think you have to have
those things to light that fire in a young mind
and understand why math and science, physics and literature and
all these things are so incredibly important. Clayton Anderson, it's
(14:59):
always a pleasure. We will have you back again. I
appreciate you, sir.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I appreciate you, Michael, and my best to the King
of Ding as well.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
You got it, astronaut Clayton Anderson. Our guest there Faeta writes,
I just wanted to share with you that my amazing
Aunt Dale turned one hundred yesterday. We had a lovely party.
She's an amazing woman and has more years ahead Faeta Fanish.
She included a picture of the adorable adorable Aunt Dale,
(15:28):
and Aunt Dale has a sash on like she's just
won the Miss America contest. Debbie writes, I'm listening to
the sweetest lady on your show. She's talking about Joyce
to say to Sunnyside, and I'm thinking about my own mom.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Fyi.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Sally Atkins the fisherwoman from Cold Spring. She was ninety
eight in October and continues to be so happy. She
finds the good in each day, still living alone, going
to get those nails done, and living life to the fullest.
Sometimes she'll say, I just can't believe I'm still here. Lol.
I don't need a response to this email. It was
just on my mind after listening to this cute lady
(16:01):
this morning. Such inspiration from these older people who make
a choice for happiness each day they'll be Walmart
Astronaut Clayton Anderson is our guest. With space being in
the news, who better to join the show. He saw
him on Fox News as their expert on the matter
last week. Clayton, let's start with your reaction emotionally, personally,
professionally when you saw our astronauts come home last week.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
That was pretty thrilled. You know, I've been removed from
that game for I don't know, probably fifteen years now,
but I replaced Sonny as back in two thousand and
seven when she had finished her first flight. So I
have a kindred spirit with my Space sister, and it
(00:44):
was important for them to get home safely after all that,
and I'm glad they did.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I know, you stay up on NASA matters and space matters.
What happened, my understanding is they were going up for
a few days, and nine months later they were branded there.
Can you explain that?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, I don't know if i'd use the word stranded,
but the star Liner, the Boeing star Liner, took them
up for an eight to ten day test flight with
a crew, and then they had thrust problems. So then
they said, well, let's keep them on there for a while,
which is an awesome answer, right to spend a couple
months on the space station while we look at the
star Liner and try to figure out what happened. So
(01:24):
they do all that, and then they come to the
conclusion that, well, you know, we're not going to be
able to fix the problems, and we don't want Butcher's
Sonny to risk coming back on the star Liner, and
so they send it back empty. Well, now they are
stranded for a brief period because they don't have a
rescue craft. You know, whenever you fly to the space station,
(01:45):
the seat that you fly in to the station on
is your escape seat to go home. And so that's
why they needed the SpaceX crew to come up with
two empty seats so they could dock and stay there
and bring the Sonny home. The thing I don't really
understand is why they made those that crew spend their
(02:05):
whole increment and made Butch and Sonny spend that whole increment,
which then drove for the nine months. That's the part
I don't know, and I'm not privy to all.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Right, Clayton, if you wouldn't say they were stranded there,
what word.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Would you use? I would say, give.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Me a better word. That's more descriptive.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Okay, So between the time when the star Liner left
and the time the SpaceX Dragon came up with two
empty seats, they were kind of stranded, so my bad.
But once they get up there, there's plenty of food,
there's plenty of water, there's plenty of oxygen, there's plenty
of clothes, so you know, and it's a very safe environment.
We understand that environment. We've understood it for you know,
(02:47):
twenty something years now, so and they could contribute to
the mission objective of doing science and repair and maintenance
and all those good things.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
That's a long period of time, so there had to
have been provision made obviously for things like food and water.
Do you have any sense of the length of those
provisions those stocks? I mean, how long could this have
gone on?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
It can go on for quite a while. What we
have to understand is that the supply chain to get
supplies back and forth from the International Space Station was
never broken, right progress vehicles came from Russia, other vehicles
bring stuff up, so that part was intact. So there
was plenty of food, plenty of water, and they were
never worried. From that aspect, I would imagine Once they
(03:43):
figured out Sonny and Butch were going to be there
for a while, they did a little bit of scrambling
to get clothing in their size and those sorts of
things on the next delivery vehicle to come up to them.
But once all that happened, it's pretty much steady as
she goes.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Well, the problem with that is women will often lie
about their sizes because they don't want to be there.
So you had, I guess you have to. You have
to prepare on that account, you know, and add a
little extra fluff.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, I'm sure that was done. You know.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Uh, you know, I buy all my pants now with
with an element that we didn't have growing up with
the you know, the Levi's, and it's it's a little
a little stretch factor, so they can they can stretch
out or or close up, depending on how I'm doing
that week. Maybe maybe they did that.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Well. You know, it's funny. I lost both times I
flew five months and two weeks, and both times I
lost the same amount of weight twelve pounds when I
got up to space, and of course I gained it
right back when I came back to Earth.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
All Right, I have a question. We're going to handle
this delicately, but we have to handle it because I've
always been curious. So you use whatever words you want
to use to keep it clinical. But how does one
how does one pass a movement when you're up there.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
The same way you pass a movement when you're down here.
You just need a little bit of a vacuum cleaner.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Oh okay, And and the same for for the same
for the pep.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yes, the the pepe is you just pee into a
hose and it sucks it down into a can. And
back in those days we use kind of Russian kitty
litter was inside the can some some form of absorption.
And then in the number two there's a plastic bag
that has holes in it, and the holes allow the
fan to draw the air through that bag, which then
(05:41):
inflates or opens it so you can drop your addition
into the uh into the fray. And then you take
all your clean up things, your your gauze, your toilet tissue,
your gloves, all those things, and you put it in
that little plastic bag and then you snap the top off.
It has a nice tight rubber band, and then you
pushing down in the can and you're good to go.
(06:02):
For the next time.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Are you anxious and tense when you're doing such things
or does it just become second nature.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
The very first time on the Shuttle, I was scared
to death. I read that checklist one hundred times and
I made sure everything was good to go. It was
all successful. But I learned one thing, and that was
the next time I was going to go number two
on any space vehicle. I was getting naked. I was
taking off everything because I didn't need anything inhibiting me.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Right, Interesting, how does it change you? How emotionally physically? Anything?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Like?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
What are the things we would take for granted ury
that we wouldn't notice that space does to you.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Physically? I don't think much. For me. My five months
and my rehab took about three weeks coming home. I
think Sonny and Butch will probably have double that. Maybe,
But what it did for me was it strengthened my
faith in God. As I looked at Earth, all I
could think of was Man. None of this is random.
You know. You hear about the overview effect and the
(07:08):
orbital perspective that astronauts talk about on occasion, and I
believe all that. All that's true. We're on spaceship Earth. Right,
we should take care of Earth. But for me, it
just strengthened my faith. You know, for a small town
kid from Nebraska that would end up in outer space
for one hundred and sixty seven days and have the
privilege of the things that I was exposed to and
(07:30):
allowed to do. It's all about my faith.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Well, so much of life is, if viewed properly, an
opportunity to get to do something. And most people are
never going to go to space. But whatever that is,
and our ministry where it is, our life, where it is,
our influence where it is, and I think it's all
It goes back to talk about George Foreman and talk
(07:57):
to say just sunny side Jewish. It's all about perspective,
and you have such a good perspective as an astronaut.
You've used it to write children's books. We'll talk to
astronaut Clayton Anderson coming out. This is the Michael Barry Show.
(08:20):
Not every day you get your own customized intro by chance, McLean.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Clin Hey, that was pretty awesome out.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
You know, we would license it. We will license that
to you for your own introductions, for your speeches and things.
If you would like.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Clayton Conrad Anderson is a retired NASA astronaut launchtone STS
one seventeen. He replaced Sunita Williams on June tenth, two
thousand and seven, as a member of the ISS Expedition
fifteen crew. Currently an author, motivational speaker, and professor of
practice at Iowa State University in Ames, Iowa. Twenty twenty two,
(09:02):
he became the president and CEO of the Strategic Air
Command and Aerospace Museum. I just was reading from your
wiki Wikipedia profile. I don't know if you've if you've
checked that out in a while, Clayton, let me ask.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
You a question. I wrote most of it.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
No, I wasn't going to say that. Let me ask
you a question. So in I don't know. Two thousand
and nine or so, Charles Bolden, who was then the
NSA or NASA director, I don't know if you knew
him or not. He gave an interview where he said
that President Trump had given him three goals and none
(09:39):
of them were related to space travel or science. The
third being to tell the Muslim world that they have
a contribution historically to math and science, and you know
that they matter. It was part of the Muslim outreach,
and I thought to myself, you know, a once great
space program has it has now been reduced to patting
(10:02):
countries on the back so they feel good about themselves.
What is the state of NASA today?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
That's a good question. I think there's some unknowns going
on with the new administration and the changes that have
done over the last few years, and the space launch
system is probably concerning given costs and schedule. I mean,
it's always about budget and money and schedule. And when
(10:31):
you have people like SpaceX and Blue Origin and Virgin
Galactic out there pushing the commercial envelope, I think all
that's good. I think it forces us to look at
things in a different light.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Do you think that space travel as we once knew it,
at least as as conducted by NASA is over? And
how do you see SpaceX fitting into all of that.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I don't think it's over. I think that, you know,
having a presence in the federal government is important. You know,
if you look back at Challenger in Colombia, the reason
that we were able to continue on was because of
the push from the federal government. So I think it's
a combination. I think it's important that we have these
commercial space flight companies that are pushing the envelope and
(11:23):
showing us what's possible and bringing the prices down. Those
are all good things. Think about Orville and Wilbur at
Kitty Hawk in nineteen oh three when they food their
right flyer, and now think about what you can do
today on a commercial aircraft. Right. None of that was
believed to be possible back then, but now it is.
It's commercially driven, and it's very safe and used by many,
(11:46):
many people. So I think that's a good analogy. We're
on the cusp of that. We're on the beginning of
that in spaceflight, where Orville and Wilbur might have been
back in nineteen oh three.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
What do you make of Elon's ability to do the
things he's done as a private company on a lean budget.
And yet, I mean, you know, they're sure there are
failures along the way. NASA had failures. It's a dangerous business.
But I'm not a scientist. I don't have the obviously
(12:17):
the experience you do, but I am in awe of
what they have accomplished. But I'm curious your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I am too, you know, as an astronaut who flew
on the Space Shuttle and lived on the Space station.
Those were pretty incredible accomplishments. But if you look at
what he's done and the speed the rate at which
he's done it, it's kind of unprecedented. Now, what folks
have to understand is statistically, down the road, there will
(12:46):
be a problem. There will be a death. You know,
someone will die. Just it's statistics, and we hope that
never happens, right, but I think it's inevitable. And then
how the recovery is from all of that is that's
what's important to me. You know, does he take his
millions and go home or does he stay and fight
the battle and make it better and go again and
(13:08):
all those things. So it's like the explorers in America
back in the day when they started to move west
across the country, right, they were uncovering problems every day
and they were fighting against things they didn't know existed.
So we're in that way in space travel. And I
always talk about the three d's of spaceflight, danger, difficulty,
(13:28):
and dollars, and those are very prevalent. We know it's dangerous,
we oftentimes figure out and fix the difficult, but it's
all about the dollars.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Clayton Anderson, astronaut Clayton Anderson's our guest. I have two
minutes left, so I'm going to be fast because I've
been wanting to ask you about this for a while.
So you served as an aquanaut during the Nemo viv
mission on the Aquarius underwater Laboratory, living and working underwater
for fourteen days. Right, what is the future of our ability?
Jacques Cousteau style to go under the water and spend
(13:59):
any significant time there.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I probably have less expertise. If I have any expertise
in anything, just make something up. But okay, it's fascinating.
I think it's an extreme environment. Right. Space and underwater
are extreme environments outer space and inner space, and those
are perfect places to figure out what humans can do,
what we can stand, how much stress we can take,
(14:25):
how we work together with each other. They're just great
analogies for doing incredible things. So I think, you know,
we should live underwater too. In space and underwater, I
think they're both great venues.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
You know, the mind of a child and what inspires
a child, what they read, what they see, what they hear,
these sorts of things. I think you have to have
those things to light that fire in a young mind
and understand why math and science, physics and literature and
all these things are so incredibly important. Clayton Anderson, it's
(14:59):
always a pleasure. We will have you back again. I
appreciate you, sir.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I appreciate you, Michael, and my best to the King
of Ding as well.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
You got it, astronaut Clayton Anderson. Our guest there Faeta writes,
I just wanted to share with you that my amazing
Aunt Dale turned one hundred yesterday. We had a lovely party.
She's an amazing woman and has more years ahead Faeta Fanish.
She included a picture of the adorable adorable Aunt Dale,
(15:28):
and Aunt Dale has a sash on like she's just
won the Miss America contest. Debbie writes, I'm listening to
the sweetest lady on your show. She's talking about Joyce
to say to Sunnyside, and I'm thinking about my own mom.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Fyi.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Sally Atkins the fisherwoman from Cold Spring. She was ninety
eight in October and continues to be so happy. She
finds the good in each day, still living alone, going
to get those nails done, and living life to the fullest.
Sometimes she'll say, I just can't believe I'm still here. Lol.
I don't need a response to this email. It was
just on my mind after listening to this cute lady
(16:01):
this morning. Such inspiration from these older people who make
a choice for happiness each day they'll be Walmart
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