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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time, time, luck and load.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
The Michael Verie Show is on the air.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
If this next story surprises you, you haven't been paying
attention to the rise in mental illness that parades under
the name of liberalism or democrat or Antifa or Black
Lives Matter or anything else. An instructor at Washington State
University was arrested for assaulting a student over his maga hat. Now,

(00:53):
when I was raised, I'm fifty four, put that into perspective.
We were taught, and it's a very good lesson. Sticks
and stones may break my bones, but say it dad,
for the kids in the back seat. Sticks and stones
may break my bones, but words can never hurt me.
And the reason we had to learn that little term,

(01:15):
that little that little ditty, was because kids would pick
on you if you wore glasses. It say, hey, four eyes, Hey,
four eyes, how's it going, four eyes? If you were fat,
they'd call you fatty. If you're skinny, they call you skinny,
or some other name.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Flakito, whatever it was, pimple face, four eyes, cross eyed, bucktoothed,
you name it.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
There's all sorts of teasing. Teasing goes on in every
species of some sort or another a form of insecurity
you see in the animal kingdom where they don't have
the ability to vocalize and do this, so they'll, you know,
elephants will charge to try to get you to pull back.
They're not charging because they're bullies. They're charging because they're fearful.

(02:07):
We had tuchuavas over the course of thirty years that
lived long, healthy, happy lives, and when someone came into
the house, they would charge at you, including big dogs,
and more often than not, it would scare the person back.
That's what teasing and bullying and all this is. So
people who do this, that's where that comes from. And

(02:30):
you were taught it's okay, don't take it personally, but
you have to take it personally. When you're mentally unstable.
Someone else's very existence bothers you. Someone else's very happiness
bothers you. Someone else's contentment, success, wealth, professional accomplishment bothers you.

(02:53):
People on the left aren't really for Democrats, for Biden
or Kamala. They're angry. Mommy didn't love him, Daddy wasn't
proud of him, Daddy wasn't around. They've not grown into
the professional success they hoped They would be they have
great ideas that nobody will listen to. They figured it
all out, and nobody will follow their direction. They know

(03:18):
better than anyone else. They have deeper emotions than others.
They're very worried about the Ukrainians or the fill in
the blame the Mexicans coming across the border, or MS
thirteen members, and they're very upset and nobody will listen.
And this is where these manifestos come from. This is
where acts of terrorism come from. This is where the

(03:39):
lashing out, the verra manic, frantic lurches and anger and
outbursts come from. He's a very troubled, very troubled people.
So why on earth does a university instructor at Washington
State University or anywhere else go up and assault kid

(04:00):
because he's wearing a Make America Great Again?

Speaker 5 (04:04):
Hat?

Speaker 3 (04:06):
He has to in his mind equate that with that
hat is you've murdered my father and now I'm going
to kill you. But it's not. It's just a free expression.
K r E MTV in Spokane with the story Right.

Speaker 6 (04:21):
Now, a WSU grad student and a now former WSU
employee are facing a fourth degree assault charge. Pullman police
say they attacked a WSU student wearing a Trump hat
right here outside the kook In late February, Pulman Police
ay a WSU student reported he was attacked by WSU
instructor and grad student Patrick Mahoney. We are not naming

(04:43):
the student because he is not being investigated or charged.
The student claims, without any words exchanged, Mahoney grabbed his
take America back hat and threw it in the road.
The student responded by throwing his food at Mahoney. He
says that's when Mahoney and his friend grabbed him and
took an to the ground. The student claims he eventually
raised his hands to not make the fight worse, and

(05:04):
Mahoney and his friend left. The student says he knows
Mahoney because they are in opposing political groups on campus.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Police contacted Mahoney later that night.

Speaker 6 (05:14):
He admitted to throwing the student's Trump hat and telling
him to go get it. Mahoney told police he thought
that would be the end of it, but he claims
the student body checked him and they started to fight.
He told officers he's seen the student on campus, saying
he knows he is right wing. Police arrested and cited
Mahoney and his friend for fourth degree assault. The university
confirms Mahoney is relieved of his teaching duties indefinitely, but

(05:39):
remains a grad student at WSU. His co defendant was
an hourly employee for WSU. The university says they terminated
his employment following their investigation.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
You know, we had some fun with this some time ago,
and there's literally not a week that goes by that
we don't think, you know, we address something that's turning
out to be timeless.

Speaker 7 (06:02):
Give it a listen. Do you or someone you know
suffer from red hat syndrome? Right now, all around the country,
people are wearing very offensive red hats. Red hat bad,
red hat very bad. Have you spotted a red hat
near your living space? Do something about red hat. Don't

(06:25):
let red hat hurt you or someone you love. Contact
your local leftist agitator as soon as possible to schedule
a protest in your community. Only a long drawn out
protest of said red hat will stop red hat from
hurting you. Red hats are offensive and red, and did
we mention they're hats hats that are red? Hurry because

(06:47):
victims of red hat syndrome don't have until the twelfth
of whenever they need your help now, because red hat bad,
red hat very very bad.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Former New York Times opinion editor James Bennett issued an
apology with some crocodile tears to go with it, to
Sarah Palin on the witness stand recently at a libel
hearing over a twenty seventeen editorial in the newspaper which
the paper blamed her for the shooting of Gabby Giffords.
Remember the congressman from Arizona, and Bennett is the brother

(07:33):
of Democrat Senator Michael Bennett. And what's interesting about this
is they blamed a shooting on Sarah Palin and now
claims he's sorry about it. But he's not sorry. He's
sorry he was caught. He's sorry she pursued it. I

(07:56):
have two law degrees. I don't practice law any longer,
although I may change that. I'm thinking of renewing my
law license for the sake of advocacy. But here's a
great example that guy should be held to account, and
he was his brother was a US senator. As a
matter of fact, isn't it interesting how crazy and how
the left wing always gets it wrong, And it's only

(08:20):
in the era of Trump, that people go, no, you're gonna,
you're gonna, You're gonna pay for this. So we find
a guest when a big news story breaks to provide expertise,
and sometimes you might be a little skeptical as to
the expertise of that guest. Sometimes you get the sense

(08:43):
that that guest doesn't actually know what happened on the
plane crash, for instance, when they're brought in and I
enjoy watching them try to filibuster so that they can
make it seem like they're offering value, but they don't
actually know what happened, and so they'll use a lot
of jargon and vernacular in terms of the trade. But

(09:08):
you expect that they have some expertise in the subject generally, right.
We do the same thing on our show SpaceX rescues
stranded astronauts, So we turned to longtime astronaut, well respected
astronaut Clayton Anderson. Clayton Anderson is he to this day

(09:29):
writes children's books from an astronaut's perspectives, perspective so that
children will fall in love with space. He's known by
the space community. He's lived it his entire life. If
you're not something of an expert on a subject we're
not going to bring you on. So CNN clearity does
not operate on this premise because Pope Francis passed away

(09:52):
and CNN turned to an expert on Catholicism a bishop, no,
the cardinal no of Father Guido Sarducci. Yeah, that would
have been. That would have been better than what they chose.
Their expert on Catholicism was no. Less is just seeing

(10:16):
n with Dana Bash than Nancy Pelosi.

Speaker 8 (10:20):
My next guest is one of the most prominent Catholic
lawmakers in American history. Joining me now is the former
Speaker of the House, now Democratic Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi. Thank
you so much for being here.

Speaker 7 (10:33):
I just got to.

Speaker 8 (10:34):
Read your lengthy and really heartfelt statement that you and
your husband Paul released on the death of Pope Francis,
and I just want to say to our viewers if
they don't know, but they I'm sure they do. You've
always been so open in public and proud about your
deep Catholic faith. What are your most important reflections of

(10:55):
Pope Francis.

Speaker 9 (11:00):
It's so said it's heartbreaking for us to see him,
which everyone.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Had answer yes, So she has just introduced her as
being a very proud Catholic. And in what way is
Nancy Pelosi a Catholic? Other than saying she's a Catholic.
She's costplaying as a Catholic. This is like men who

(11:27):
claim their women or women who claim their men. In
what way is she a Catholic? What does it mean
to be a Catholic? This is a discussion that upsets
certain people who are you to judge? Okay, you're right,
So how about this? If Osama bin Lauden had declared
himself a Catholic and in the articles in the paper

(11:49):
declared him to be a Catholic, and he claimed to
be a Catholic of deep conviction, would you say, well,
that doesn't seem right. Well, we don't want to judge,
judge not and be not judged. Well, there comes a
certain point where people are putting on a cloak that

(12:11):
is stolen, and they're doing it for the purpose of
engendering respect or trust or are a kindred spirit, But
in so doing they are also wearing that cloak to
commit a robbery or a murder. They are dishonoring that
cloak and everything that cloak or flag or faith represents.

(12:32):
And that's what Nancy Pelosi is doing. And if you
don't feel comfortable saying that, I'm okay with that, I
will because everything the Catholic Church teaches she works very
hard against. And she has used the bully pulpit of
at that point, being the leader of the second most
powerful institution in the House of Representatives, to make Catholic

(12:55):
churches cower under her threats and ask them to support
things like illegal immigration and abortion. If you are for abortion,
you are not Catholic. I feel certain saying that. And
you can try the relativism of well it's not for
a year to the Catholic or not. Okay, Well, it's

(13:19):
not for you to decide if you have a pulse
because you're an idiot.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Hey, and then go on to heaven.

Speaker 9 (13:28):
I've been, Paul, and I and our children have been
with His Holiness some total of four times, sometime.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
With some of the grandchildren, other time others.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
And then just hold on a minute. There comes a
point it's hard to know when to leave. It's hard
to know when to leave. You know, you've had that
guest that comes over and dinner's over, and you're you're
ready to go out and go to bed and they
PLoP down on the couch and you're thinking, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no,

(13:58):
let's not start. Hey, you got you got any port
in here? You got after dinner drinks? No, you're gonna
need to go ahead and leave. You should have known
when to leave on your own. But now I'm gonna
go ahead and tell you. Well, I'm going to tell
you it's time to leave Congress and public life. When
your dentures don't fit anymore, when your dentiers are just

(14:19):
knocking around you slurn like Chris Matthew's or Lou Hols,
you need to let it go.

Speaker 9 (14:25):
It's on a long visit with him where he spoke
about immigrants and refugees again and again, something that was
very such a high priority for him. So when he
has left us now, I think of all the times
that we met him. It would always say pray for me,

(14:46):
whether it was leaving the Capitol or with my grandchildren, whatever,
he would say, pray for me, excuse me, and we'd
be like, well, no, you're the one she'd be praying
for us. No, pray for me, And now we will
pray to him. He was a saintly man cared about faith, hope,
and charity and peace. He was a blessing to the

(15:09):
world and to the Catholic faith. And he again saying
goodbye and happy Easter and then going on to heaven.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
It's just so.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Remarkable, remarkable that he died on Monday. That was really remarkable.
Not a month later, not a month before, but he
was so remarkable that he died right there next to Easter,
isn't Isn't that remarkable? You know, the politics, the practice,

(15:41):
the preaching of the prosperity doctrine, the preaching of no sacrifice,
no evangelizing, no doctrine, no suffering. I find that, and
maybe this is my deep Southern Baptist roots. I still

(16:05):
get motivated by Jonathan Edwards sinners in the hands of
an angry God. I find that this is making a
mockery of Christianity. It's not a Catholic faith, it's a
Christian faith. And I find that Nancy Pelosi is making
a mockery.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Up from a King of Ding and this other guy,
Michael Barry.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Is this CNN with Dana Bash then Nancy Pelosi. This
is the discussion they had after the pope passed. This
is the discussion they had.

Speaker 8 (16:46):
You received communion during a mass at Saint Peter's Basilica
in twenty twenty two, and that happened despite the fact
that the Archbishop of San Francisco said that you couldn't
receive communion because of your support for abortion rights. What
did it mean for you to receive communion that day

(17:06):
during the papal mass.

Speaker 9 (17:09):
Well, it was the feast of Saint Peter and Paul,
which in Rome is a national is a holiday, said
the holiday, and so all faiths come together in the
in the Vatican in Saint Peter's. They placed us in
the front row and at the front row next to
us was where His Holiness was seated. But before them,

(17:31):
and we had our family, we had we had staff,
we had the security because it was an official visit.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
That we were on.

Speaker 9 (17:39):
Before I went on to a family visit in any case,
before the visit, before the massimine, they asked Paul and
me to go outside of the vestibule or something before
you go into the church. And we were standing there
and then His Holiness came in.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
He was in a wheelchair for far away door.

Speaker 9 (18:01):
He stood up and walked over to us, and we
had a lovely private visit with him, which and they
took pictures.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
You're not allowed to bring a camera.

Speaker 9 (18:12):
They took pictures which they released the Vatican released, which
was at that sensitive time with my own archbishop in
San Francisco, and then we received commune. I received communion
right there in that front row on the feast of
Saint Peter, trying to the presence of the Pope.

Speaker 8 (18:34):
He was clearly trying to send a message.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
You think Bishop Donald Sanborn is an American traditionalist Catholic bishop.
He's an old school bishop who still says Mass in Latin.
So it shouldn't come as no surprise to find out
that he doesn't have much hope in the possible successors

(19:01):
to Pope Francis.

Speaker 10 (19:04):
The next Pope elect, and there are some names here, Parlin,
roche Zoopy, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Have you looked at the papabula in your excellency.

Speaker 11 (19:15):
No, because as far as I'm concerned, it would be
like looking at a garbage can that is surrounded by rats,
and which rat differs from the one next to it.

Speaker 10 (19:28):
This is a bigger rat, this is a this is
an Italian rat, This one's a South America.

Speaker 11 (19:32):
And this one's brown or gray. You know, how do
you distinguish between rats? And so that you know, I
have no interest in it. They're going to be the
same he has packed and stacked, but it might be
a better word that conclave. They're going to produce some
monster and it'll be all the same.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Let's pivot, shall we. We haven't talked about Trump enough lately.
A video has recently resurfaced of Chuck Schumer. Oh, he
of the outdoor grill, and I'm sure he would like
everyone to forget that this exists, and he's probably not
happy that it was dug up. Here we go.

Speaker 12 (20:12):
I was born in Brooklyn, the same place where Donald
Trump's family comes from.

Speaker 7 (20:16):
His father and my grandfather were builders together in Brooklyn.

Speaker 12 (20:21):
Yeah, even when he was much younger, you knew that
he was going to go places.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
So it's nice and to humor and mister Trump are
good friends, and they both have a passion for life.
And you get that immediately talking to him, that he
actually cares about what he does.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
How about that? President Trump has said this on more
than one occasion, but it's one of his best lines.
And in case you had never heard it, I would
like to share it were.

Speaker 13 (20:46):
Uselessly were in common worst administration in the issue of
our country, Worster and Jimmy Carter. Jimmy Carter died a
happy man. You know why, because he wasn't the worst
president Joe Biden was.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Trump can be so funny, and the way he delivers it,
it's like a kid. He's just delighted to tell this joke.
It makes me so happy. He ever smarmy Chuck Todd.
You know, just saying Chuck Todd's name makes me think
of Rustling Ball, and that makes me happy. He's trying
to rewrite his history since he left NBC's Meet the Press.

(21:22):
He says the media wanted to make Trump inoperable in
the mainstream public. Not him, though, No, sir, he was
fair and a real straight shooter. Those other guys were
trying to take Trump down, but not him.

Speaker 14 (21:38):
There's no doubt Trump wants some revenge right on the
law firms, unpressed, whatever, you know, But let's not beat
around the bush. All these institutions did want to cancel Trump, Yeah,
did want him inoperable in mainstream public. You know, I
think the biggest mistake and I did not follow the
pipe piper on this one, which was this idea that
we deeplatform everybody post January six. He's a democracy, this

(22:00):
is a first Amendment, and I you know, all of
a sudden, now you've got law firms or what's going
on and all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
It's like, look, that was a bad moment.

Speaker 14 (22:08):
That doesn't mean Look I understand the passion of that moment,
but my god, the whole point of the Constitution is
to protect minority rights, not majority rights.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
The whole damn thing.

Speaker 14 (22:18):
Was written to protect minority rights. And so yeah, you
may not like that speech, but speech is speech. And
the decision to dplatform bit mainstream media in the ass.
Why okay, Donald Trump started his own information ecosystem.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
How do you like them apples?

Speaker 7 (22:33):
Now?

Speaker 9 (22:33):
Right?

Speaker 14 (22:34):
And then you know, I sit here, it's like traditional media,
Oh what's happened. Yeah, you did try to d platform.
It was a mistake. Somebody had to come up and
say this was a mistake.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
He sounds like a member of the French royalty who's
been grabbed by the peasants during the French Revolution, and
he's trying to say how he likes the commoners. He's
trying so hard to make it seem that he was reasonable.

(23:07):
Just as an example, remember when Chuck Todd said that
Hunter Biden's guilty verdict actually hurt Donald Trump.

Speaker 12 (23:14):
Imagine that if Biden has lost something with the American
people over the last few years, it's that reminder that,
you know, he is sort of the opposite of Trump
on empathy. Right, He's the opposite of Trump on some
of these things. And I think this verdict their reaction
to it versus how the Trumps have reacted to the

(23:36):
rule of law, certainly, I think presents that character contrast,
you know, with a group of voters who are not
you know, by those that are left that are not
happy with their choices. And I think, you know, to
try to figure out who this politically benefits, I think
this it hurts Trump hard.

Speaker 14 (23:56):
Stop.

Speaker 12 (23:57):
You don't know if these things help Biden at all.
It certainly hurts Trump because I think his rhetoric about
a rigged system really works against him when you look
at all of the supposed advantages that the Bidens had
in this case, Right, it was a person that was
appointed by Merrick Garland. As Claire mccaskell pointed out, Joe

(24:17):
Biden had the power to stop this if he chose to,
if he chose to pervert the rule of law, he
could have done that, but he chose not to do that.
This was a Delaware jury who the Bidens have won
many of Biden has won many election in that state.
And we know all of those are registered voters, perhaps
all of them or most of them have voted for
a Biden at least once in their life. And that

(24:39):
still showed you that the rule of law was able
to state above the political phrase. So look, I think
the most important thing to come out of today is
the American system. Again, I challenge you to find me
another country where their son, the leader's son or daughter
at the moment, would be prosecut You did like this

(25:00):
the way it happened here.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yeah, poor old Hunter, he was sure picked on. That's
gonna hurt Trump when Network.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Out Southern Pride, Southern Pride, the Michael Berry Show.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
We've been talking about colk Francis, I was not a fan.
Sorry if that upsets you. Shortly after he died, I
wasn't a fan. I think our faith and our world
are more important than any one individual, and I will
continue to believe that. And when you are in a
position of great authority that comes, as Uncle Ben said,

(25:37):
with great responsibility. And I don't think he was a
stu good steward of that responsibility. And we can just
disagree on that. But one of the things that has emerged,
and I'm not offering a judgment or a commendation, I'm
simply passing it along, is that the pope who lived
to eighty eight his requests for his burier, or rather simple,

(26:02):
he wants to be written laid to rest at the
Papal Basilica of Saint Mary Major in Rome, where six
other popes are buried in a simple, undecorated tomb with
only the inscription Franciscus. According to the Vatican, they're the
one that has released this. They released the document, and

(26:27):
being a Southern American living in the deep and glorious South,
we can relate to simple. We like simple, unadorned, lacking
in flourish, clean, straightforward. We all know of an uncle

(26:50):
or grandpa that had some specific requests before they died.
That maybe we're simple, but they also tug at your
heartstrings and made you giggle a little bit. And we
sat around in our production meeting and imagine what that
would sound like, and here was our best.

Speaker 7 (27:11):
Guess, my dear slew Ann.

Speaker 5 (27:16):
When the road indeed does not go on forever, then
my party eventually ends.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
I do request the following.

Speaker 5 (27:23):
Please bury me in the back forty next to my
favorite blue hound of all time, Pistol and everything. Also,
I do request that you mold that lot that I
forever shall rest my head with my favorite nineteen seventy
eight John Deere riding mower with forty six, eight hundred
and seventy six hours. I do love you with turtle Eland,

(27:45):
but that John Dee was the best thing that ever
happened to me in all my years, and only talk
back once when she backfired after a full week in
the grass murderer. I'd also like to be buried with
my heat Hal highlight tapes.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Now that's the eternal laughter.

Speaker 5 (28:02):
You'll find those in the safe duck between the farmers
amanak and the handwritten original Copenhagen done cut risk.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Finally, I have indeed left.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
Something for you, my dearest Lue blueprints for a southern cafe.
There was sort of protein, two sides on an affordable platter,
maybe with a rowing dessert with a sweet tea. I
don't know, haven't thought it all through yet, but maybe
there's something there.

Speaker 15 (28:28):
I love you, lun forever, your dearest Loubie. Okay, maybe
we have too much time on our hands. I'll admit it.
I'll admit it. We do a lot of things that
don't make it to the air. I told you that
I'm enjoying watching the Democrats go to El Salvador to

(28:50):
try to bring back Ms thirteen members, one of their
congressmen saying that she wasn't going to come home until
he was released. Oh good, happiest to hear that her husband. Well,
they are having quite the internal battle right now. They
elected this little twit, David Hogg, vice chair of the DNC,

(29:15):
and he announced a twenty million dollars initiative through his organization,
Leaders We Deserve, aimed at supporting younger progressive candidates challenging
incumbent Democrats in safe blue districts. And this move has
sparked a significant backlash from within the party, with a
lot of folks saying this is going to divert resources

(29:38):
that we need to be using in the general election
to battle the Republicans that we're going to be spending
in the primaries. The Left doesn't want to be part
of a coalition. The Left wants to control the country
and they understand that moderate Democrats are also their enemy.
So despite this criticism, David Hogg has to offended his

(30:00):
strategy as his step to rejuvenate the party and the
low approval ratings.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Their approval ratings right now are lord and they've ever been.
One of the people who is criticizing him is James Carvill.
And James Carvill, the raging cajun, ever, the read ever
at the ready with a clever quip, told News Nations
Chris Cuomo that David Hogg was a contemptible little turk.
We agree. Here's what he said.

Speaker 13 (30:29):
He's being paid to run against other Democrats.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
I think it's outbreak.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
I don't know if I have standing, but I might
give the DMC ten dollars and sue him.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
He's a contemptible little quirk if you ashow it.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
So, David Hogg was on CNN with Jake Tapper, where
he responded to the godfather of the Democrat Party.

Speaker 16 (30:50):
Well, so here's James Carvill. Here's what he had to
say about your idea.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Take a listen.

Speaker 7 (30:55):
The most insane thing I ever heard.

Speaker 13 (30:57):
As a bike Chair of the Democratic National Committee is
been twenty billion dollars run against other Democrats always want
us to run against Republicans.

Speaker 10 (31:05):
What's your response, what's his plan to deal with our
twenty seven percent approval rating? That's my question to him.
The fact of the matter is, right now, our party
is in a crisis. We are seeing people lose faith
in our party. They're losing faith in democracy across the country,
and we need to make sure that we're getting people
to vote for Democrats, not simply because we're not Donald Trump,
but because we have a better message, a better option

(31:28):
for them, not simply the less bad of two options,
as I think Carville tries to promote when he says,
well should we just shouldn't say anything. Carville believes in
a politics of being timid, of hiding.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
I believe in fighting.

Speaker 10 (31:41):
And that is what people want to see right now
from the Democratic Party. We just saw an example that
I was Senator Van Holling going to El Salvador to
say we need to meet with this man. And yes,
Democrats obviously are in the minority right now, but let's
be clear, we cannot win back the majority if we
do not convince the American people that our party offers
something that isn't just not Donald Trump, but is substantially

(32:01):
better than Donald Trump, that fights to lower costs for
Americans across the country, whether it's healthcare, housing, or the
foundational building blocks of the American dream that feel so
out of reach for people, or addressing gun violence. We
can't simply just hide, as Carville repeatedly promotes, not to
mention the fact that, frankly, he has not won an
election since before I was born. I think it's time
for some new voices in our party. When were you

(32:23):
born two thousand? Well, I guess so.

Speaker 16 (32:25):
Anyway, I can hear James Carvill's head exploding all the
way from New Orleans when you called him timid and James,
you're welcome back on the show next week and you
happy to talk more and you can respond.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
He is a contemptible little tour but we love it.
He is part of the committee that is trying to
turn the Democrat Party away from being able to pretend
they're moderate, to embracing the far left politics of AOC
and Bernie Sanders. This is an inflection point for US, folks.

(33:01):
We either use this to destroy them, or they win
and things are bad. He didn't stop there. He said
Carbo hadn't won an election. No, no, he said, uh
I thought we played that? Yeah, he said, yeah, play
that next one. Four oh seven.

Speaker 17 (33:18):
Well known Democratic strategist James Carble said in response to
this announcement of this plan that you have to primary Democrats.
He said that the DNC should sue you and called
you quote a contemptible little twerk.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
What is your reaction to that?

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Right, that is my reaction.

Speaker 10 (33:36):
I would also say, James Carville has not won an
election since before I was born. I think it's time
to have new leaders in our party that are ready
to meet this moment because a lot of the people
that are the most critical of this plan are the
same ones that had two billion dollars to win an
election and still lost.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
So I think the

Speaker 10 (33:53):
Experts can save it because it's time for some new ideas.
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