BONUS - Caller Victoria Shares Her Harrowing Story Of Being Kidnapped

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Michael Barry Show. I told the story about a
woman who impersonated an ICE officer to kidnap her ex
boyfriend's now wife from work and then took her to
her apartment complex, and it's a funny story. Here was

(00:23):
my description of that story. A Florida woman has been
arrested for impersonating an ICE officer in order to kidnap
her ex boyfriend's wife from work. She was outfitted with
a shirt that said ICE and equipped with a walkie talkie.

(00:47):
The victim told the popo that she believed the suspect
was quote an ICE law enforcement agent end quote, in
part because quote she had a handheld radio and she
was talking on it to who I assumed were other
ICE agents. Officers arrested fifty two year old Latrance Battle,

(01:10):
La tr Ncee. I'm guessing she's not a white woman
from Latrance. Of course, being a government employee and being
black actually makes it more credible, more believable. I mean,
I mean really, Here is the story from WMBB Television
in Lovely Panama City, Florida.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
This is fifty year old La Tranz Battle. Deputies arrested
Battle on Friday, April eleventh, the day after she allegedly
tried to arrest someone else b a County Sheriff's office.
Officials say Battle showed up at the victim's job, identifying
herself as an ICE agent, wearing a black shirt with
ICE printed on the front, carrying a handheld radio and
a Sheriff's office business card. The woman, who was in

(01:53):
the process of becoming a legal United States resident, told
deputies she believed Battle was legitimate and got into a
car with her. She claims you tried to call her
husband and her lawyer, but Battle snatched away her phone.
Officials say the victim became growingly concerned after they passed
the Sheriff's office and the jail. When they stopped at
the Bridge Plaza apartment complex, the victim was able to

(02:13):
escape and a concerned citizen assisted in contacting authorities. This
is Sheriff's office bodycam video of battles arrest. The County
Sheriff's officials say this was a targeted incident.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
There is a connection between the victim's husband in miss Battle.
It goes back a few years ago, so there has
not been much much connection lately, but they do know
each other. This is definitely a targeted, particular incident that
happened here. We're not concerned about anything else like this happening.

(02:46):
But she did pick her victim, and so we don't
believe there's any other threat to the public at this time.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
You think Yad's Battle appeared to be on her way
out of town when she was arrested. Battle is charged
with kidnapping and commission of a robbery by sudden snatching,
impersonating an officer, and commission of a felony and felony
violation of probation. She's held on eighty five thousand dollars
bond on the first three charges and held without bond
on the probation violation.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Oh, that's like saying yesterday a woman in Crosby went
over to her her ex boyfriend's house and she shot
her ex boyfriend's now wife, and then she turned the
gun on herself. Now, let's talk to local law enforcement.
Should the public be concerned, Should people in pair Land

(03:37):
be worried? No, we think this was an isolated event.
We've got it under control. Now you think this Latrentce
woman was going to hold her for ransom? Ramon, Hello,
am I speaking with FBI at Yeah, if you want
to go back a life, listen and do nothing talk. Okay,

(04:00):
I'm listening.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Let me get a pink. The drop will be made tonight,
eleven pier. The monks will be fifteen million dollars.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Fifty million dollars.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
And don't even think you're getting up, Chelsea Clay.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
I love this story so much. When it's a it's
a bad movie. But for real, I mean, can't you
just imagine imagine Latrnce battle and how this makes sense.
She's talking to Shamikua. Shamikha, I'm so mad at Tremaine, girl,

(04:36):
What you talking about? I'm just sitting here being mad
at Tremaine.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
Girl.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
He had been your man in three years. I'm still
mad at him, still mad at him. You know I
gave I let him borrow my car. He ain't never
brought it back. Girl, that's been three years. I know,
I know. I don't want my fat ass out on the
on the bus. I ain't got time for the bus
out on the bus and him probably he probably don't

(05:03):
already wrecked my car. Why are you worried about Tremaine.
I'm just mad at it. I'm gonna get him back.
What are you gonna do Latrens, what are you gonna do?
He'll beat you up again. I'm gonna get him. You know,
I'm gonna do You know he dating that that uh

(05:25):
Mexican girl? M who is she cute? By the way?
She porto Rican? Oh okay, Well what I'm gonna do.
I'm on you know what, I'm gonna sick ice on her.
I'm gonna get her deported the trains. You messing with
the wrong thing, girl, You messing with the wrong thing. Oh,
you know what, I'm gonna be the Ice. I'm gonna

(05:47):
kidnap her. I'm gonna go up to her job. She
don't know what I look like. She never seen me,
and I'm gonna kidnap her. The victim confirmed that she
genuinely felt as if Latron Trance was an ICE agent
at the time, and she is in the process of
becoming a legal US resident. As they were in the
car traveling to their destination, La Trance forcefully snatched the

(06:13):
victim's wig off. No, not that La Trance forcefully snatched
the victim's phone from her as she was trying to
contact her lawyer and husband. After they arrived at the
Bridge Plaza, apartment complex. The victims suspected something was wrong
because La Trance told the victim they were going to

(06:34):
the sheriff's office. Yep, just keep on walking. I'll be
behind you. I got my own you. We're going into
the sheriff's office. But this is Section eight housing, Room
eight B right down there. It's a sheriff's office. We're
going in talk to sheriff. We're gonna work this out. Man,
this don't look like. I ain't been here my whole lot,

(06:54):
But this don't look like what I expected the sheriff's
office to be. I seen the rock p files. Don't
look like no sheriff's office to me, ay, bait, keep walking, bitch,
you just keep on a walk and I work for it.
Let me you gonna make me pull out my walkie talkie.
Love this story so much, Let's open the phone lines
for the last segment. If you've ever kidnapped anyone or

(07:15):
been kidnapped, or if you ever snuck into a concert
or a sporting event with an elaborate disguise, or you
ever pretended to be something you weren't pulled it off,
make your story quick seven one three, nine nine nine
one thousand, seven, one three, nine nine nine one thousand from.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Me.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
That's a chef for years. This is the Michael Berry Show.
So then I asked, well you heard. I asked for
people to call in if they were if they ever
impersonated someone. I had a woman who told the story
that she went to the Olympics with her father and

(07:55):
pretended to be a Ukrainian journalist and her father will
her coach and her translator. He's not Ukrainian and he
doesn't speak Ukrainian, and all day people took pictures with her,
and her and her father played a prank the whole day,
and I just thought this was the funniest darn thing ever. Anyway,

(08:15):
but the call of the day was a woman named Victoria,
and I knew that her story was going to be interesting,
and we were short on time, so I asked her
to hold and to talk to us and we would
record it. And so this has not this conversation has
not been held on the air yet, So if you
are a radio listener of ours, you have not heard

(08:36):
this conversation yet, and I haven't heard it. So here
we go. Victoria, set the stage. You've got all the
time you need, give us all the details because this
is kind of stuff of movies, but it really happened
to you, so.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Go ahead, Yeah, I agree. So, you know, I was
in my early twenties and I had just you know, uh,
I think the rise of social media was coming out
before it was advertisements and businesses, just you know, it

(09:10):
was people and so you would share your interest. Mine
was photography, like landscapes throughout Texas, small dive bars and records,
music books, and I had I had met someone through
shared interest, so you know, I thought it was harmless,

(09:33):
h you know, friends, and then you know we I
wasn't comfortable exchanging phone numbers, so I we exchanged emails
and uh we were just emailing each other, communicating back
and forth, and probably about two weeks of uh you know,
conversations throughout work weekends. I was like, you know, we

(10:00):
should we should like we should meet and hang out,
and we you know, exchanged ideas of maybe doing that someday,
but nothing was for sure. Set and Stone fast forward
maybe two to three months. He had you know, we
had to exchange to talking on the phone face timing,

(10:23):
and he was like, all right, I'm going to come
visit you in in Houston, you know, because I live
in Houston and he lived in Arizona, and it was
just meant to be friends because we knew the distance
would never work for anything romantically. And I was young,
and he was probably fifteen years older than me. Well, no,

(10:44):
I think maybe ten to fifteen, somewhere around that range.
And we meet, we are who we say we are.
You know, there's no catfishing involved. And I'm just going
on about how I was stressed at home with my
home life. I still lived at home, and I was
taking some classes at community college and working full time

(11:06):
in retail. And he worked at a university in Arizona,
like in Phoenix, and he said, well, you know, you
can always come move to Arizona with me. You know,
I could try to get you a job, and you know,
just promised this whole precipice of a more safe, comfortable

(11:29):
future that I could control. And so from all the
Hollywood movies I had seen in books I had read,
you know, there's a sense of wonder that encompasses someone
in their twenties that they think the world is wide open,
and you know, opportunity is there if you want to
take it. And so I did that, and you know,

(11:52):
I told my parents, and of course, you know, my
mom is an avid true crime watcher, and rightfully so,
you know, parents want to do what's best and look
out for their children. It's instinctual. It's in humans, it's
in animals.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
You know.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
It's looking back at it now that I'm in my thirties,
I totally understand the kind of fear of just doing
something like this. And they they met him, he was
who he said he was. Helped me move out, you know,
took everything that I wanted that could fit in a

(12:31):
Cadillac car and drove through West Texas all the way
back to Phoenix, Arizona. And it did feel a little cinematic,
like it does feel like stuff movies are made out of.
And I got, you know, to where he lived, and

(12:53):
the the interesting thing was that he was a thirty
six year old man who lived with his parents still.
And I did not find this out until I was there,
and I had no car, no phone, because I left
on kind of bad terms with my parents, and you know,

(13:13):
they were like, well, you're on your own. So I
was really totally reliant on this man who I had
seen had become a liar. Not only did I not
get a job at the university he worked at, I
was forced into taking care of his elderly parents, you know,

(13:35):
making sure they had their medications. I was basically like
a home health nurse without the experience to do that
or the desire to do that. I'm not like a
blood person or a taking care of someone that's has
complex issues that I couldn't. And I had found out

(13:57):
that he was a biker who was trying to join
the Hell's Angels biker gang. And there was numerous times
where I was forced into accompanying him to the club
events and I would see the most gruesome things that

(14:21):
would happen to people through drug abuse, alcohol abuse, domestic abuse.
And it's a crazy hierarchy of how women are treated
their kind of like club property. And so, you know,
I don't want to trigger any listeners. And I've already

(14:43):
you know, made my peace with it and talked to
professionals for my own benefit to be able to share
my story and you know, just to be there for
people who have gone through you know, sexual abuse and
rape and harassment, because it's no cakewalk. I mean, people
like to downplay it and think that it's just something

(15:06):
that you could block out of your mind. But you know,
every now and then you may it triggers on that stuff.
So you know, that was very it was. I was
only here in that situation for about six to eight months,
but it felt like five years, just because of all

(15:26):
the I guess, the survival instincts that I had to
do for myself. Every day. I didn't know if I
was going to live or die. And I was completely
at the mercy of this person who you know, just
was not anything who they said they were. And I
was kept in a separate bedroom with no phone, and

(15:51):
my food would be given to me under a door.
And I was good for I think the first two months,
and I was, you know, actively trying to find a
job and in anything, I think the you know, I
had my previous job experience had come from working retail

(16:13):
and entry level kind of corporate accounting administration, and I
was interviewing for jobs that were being a janitor on airplanes,
and the person interviewing me was like, you know, I
don't know why you would think, like, why would you
want this job? I wouldn't want to say anything too specific,

(16:35):
but you know, it's like, well, I moved here. I'm
kind of you willing to take any chance. I just
want a job because if I had a job, I
could have a phone. If I had a phone, I
could find a way to you know, let my parents
know I'm okay, and you know, to help me. I
definitely had developed Stockholm syndrome. I didn't even know what

(16:56):
that was until after I was safe at home back
in Excess. But you know, I always downplayed it and
I said, well, you know, it could be worse. I could,
you know, be pregnant with kids, or I could you know,
I've broken bones. Instead, I just like springed my shoulder.
It was just insane, the level of mental hoops that

(17:16):
I would jump through, and it was I think I
was on like it was rewarded to go to the
neighborhood pool by myself. And that's when I had a
friend of a lifeguard and she said, yeah, how's it going,
And we just became friends and I told her I'd

(17:38):
like to hang out, but I don't know if I
had permission to. And she was at I think a
university there and she said, well, what do you mean.
You know, she started to pry and she said, you know,
I'm gonna come pick you up, but we're gonna go,
like to the movies. I want you to like meet
friends of mine. And she was my age, and it

(17:59):
was the only friend I had had come across that
was my age, that seemed like a normal person. And
so that day came around when I she showed up
to the to the house where I was at, and
it was probably around seven point thirty. And you know,
the guy that I was with, he was not at home,

(18:22):
but his parents were, and his parents were watching the
local news and the boordbell ring. I'd go over open
it and I get an earfull from this man's father
who says, why are you You can't be going out
like by yourself. You can't be going out like with
my son. Like you're a whore, you're a prostitute. Like

(18:45):
I was wearing a dress that was probably mid mid thigh.
You know, it was appropriate to wearing school or work.
It wasn't you know, laces and whips and chains like
it was. It was very conservative but still young and cute.
And he's you know, I said, well, I have a

(19:06):
friend I'm gonna go see the movies with and start
walking outside and he's pursing at me and pushing me,
and I hurry up and run to the car, and
the you know, my friend is like, what the heck
is happening? Is that your dad? And I said, no,
man's about my dad. Uh that's a guy I'm with

(19:28):
his dad. And she said where is your car? And
I said, oh, I don't have one. She said, you know,
I am a part of like the volunteer group for
our college that specializes in human trafficking. Like are you
where are you from? Like where's your family? She's just
started to pry, and I just told her, you know everything,

(19:51):
like well I came here because I was a viding
impression blah blah blah. I don't get a job and
it's gonna be better, but thanks, we're not better. And
so she said, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna give you
some money. We're gonna get a prepaid phone. I want
you to like reach out to your family and tell
them what happened and see if they can come help you,

(20:12):
because this is not normal. And it did seem normal
to me that that was just what was crazy, Michael.
It was just like it was an a mental you know,
block in my head, and so I'll never forget how
after when I was dropped off from movies, the windows
were locked, the doors were locked. I was sitting outside

(20:35):
on the driveway of this house, and it's weird because
the neighborhoods don't have grass and they just have cactus
and rock. And there was coyotes walking around, and I
remember locking my eyes with one of its gaze, and
I wasn't afraid because I felt that if I got

(20:56):
eaten and attacked by a coyote, I mean, it would
be better than what I'm experiencing now. And I looked
up at the moon and it was a full moon.
It was probably around two to three am, and so
I know that was probably four to five am for
Texas time. And so I'm like, Okay, this is like

(21:18):
the moment of if I can, if I can muster
up more courage to endure this life, or if I
call my mom and dad and say, hey, it didn't
work out in Arizona. And so I call and call
my dad first, because my mom she just I didn't

(21:38):
know how she would react because we had left on
bad terms. And so I called my dad and he's like,
you know, I wake him up. He's the middle of
he's he It's like when you're when you call someone
with bad news and you can tell they just woke
up the middle of the night. So call my dad

(22:00):
and I'm like, hey, Arizona is not working out. I
need you to come get me. And I think my dad,
I think he knew how bad it was because I'm
the eldest daughter of three total, like including myself, and
I'm two younger brothers, and so I've always just been

(22:22):
a little more tougher, like a kind of like a tomboy.
And you know, I don't have the luxury to ask
for help because I'm supposed to be the help, so
no questions asked. My dad said, all right, well, well
we'll come get you. And it was symbolic because it
was around Easter, and I think it was Easter. Sunday

(22:46):
was two days from that. I think this happened on
a good Friday, and in that moment, it did feel
like a good Friday to me, just because it meant
that this nightmare would be over. That my family drove
and all night like throughout the day and night, and

(23:07):
I was into the impression that only my mom and
dad would be coming but my brothers also came and
my mom I had SUV and so we were kind
of limited on space of what I could fit. And uh,
you know, my dad and brothers like showed up with
you know, packing heat, and you know, my mom wanted

(23:31):
to call the cops because she was like, this is
not normal. You know, you were lied to, You were
held in a room without you know, your permission and consent,
and you know they're probably going to traffic you into
like you know, Mexico for money. Like we don't even
know still to this day, what could have happened, but

(23:53):
just the things I would see, how the extended family
would interact with each other. You know, they were gypsy
and you know, so they were traveling heavy with illusions
and I never knew, you know, who was safe to
talk to, who I should have been more hesitant of.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
And so.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
You know, I think I believe my family got there
around three am on a Saturday. We went to Walmart
picked up something, and I was staying in a hotel
because the front desk receptionist had you know, some mercy
for me, I guess. And I don't know if you've

(24:32):
ever seen that kill Bill movie where Luma Thurman is
buried in a casket and she kind of breaks her
way out of it and she's walking into a store
or something, all dusty. And I thought I had walked
from the house through the desert to a hotel because

(24:55):
it was a kind of desolate area where it was
just one sea in your like sort of senior community
neighborhood and one gas station and it was closed. So
I had walked about five miles with foot flops and
my legs were all scratched up from cactus and I
couldn't even have I could have been bitten by a

(25:17):
snake and wouldn't have even known it because I was
just on a mission to survive. And so.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
No.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
I stayed at a hotel in like the staff room
for one night and was able to walk back to
the house before my parents had got their Saturday so
that I could get my things. And it was crazy
because whenever my parents, you know, knocked the door and

(25:47):
the elderly parents answered, they were like, yeah, you know,
it just didn't work out here. You know, they had
no remorse or anything, and they were the ones that
were complicit with this treatment that I experienced. And you know,
my mom is Mexican and so she was just you know,

(26:10):
very feisty and cursing up the storm and I just
felt completely like relieved, but at the same time, everything
was still raw. And whenever we you know, arrived back
in Texas for Easter Sunday, we were out of my
family's in the whole country, very nice you know area,

(26:34):
you know, seeing just green, I was like, oh god,
this is this is great, Like this is a silver lining.
These are the little things, you know. It's not a desolate,
broken desert that has a lot of bad memories. And
there was an aunt that asked me, well, I thought
you were supposed to be, you know, living a life
in Arizona, and I still remember around my family I

(27:00):
would be very reserved and respectful. But I said, yeah, well,
you know that's what happens whenever you get sexually assaulted
and held for you know, hostage and thrown in a
biker gang, you just can't do it anymore. So do
you mind, I'd like to finish my food. And everyone
kind of left me alone for the rest of the day,

(27:21):
which is exactly what I wanted to. I didn't want to,
you know, have to explain this story to everybody numerous times,
and I figured if I nailed it on the head
in a very raw and uncomfortable way for a listener
to hear, they wouldn't have to ask me again. So,
you know, I was back in Texas and I had

(27:44):
an Arizona license. They needed a Texas license, and my
brother had to take me to the DMV. And if
anybody knows anything about the DMV, it's not really run
quickly more efficiently. You know, they were if I had
I was a Texas resident, but I had you know,

(28:04):
there wasn't a license, and a lady was like, well,
you know you need this, this and that. You know,
I need to see blah blah blah. And my brother
was there and he was like, well, she doesn't have
it because she was she was kidnapped and she was
held hostage, so she needs a license. And the lady,
I could tell she just loved to hear this drama.

(28:27):
She put her phone down, she looked at me with
like endearing eyes and was like, it's really that happened
to you. And my brother is as great as a
storyteller as I am, and he's like, yeah, we showed
up with guns, like we had to rescue her in
the middle of the night. We drove all day, and
so we repeated this story that I've just told you

(28:51):
a more bullet point esque and through the perspective of
my brother. But I was able to get a license
that day, you know, just because as I was talking
to a person like a person and explaining like, yeah,
the situation was bad, but I ended up, you know,
mustering through and realizing it could have been so much worse.

(29:14):
I could have you know, been killed, I could have
been sold off to someone or another place, another country.
I mean, I just I'm glad that I was able
to talk to people to actually understand that could help me,
and having the courage to put ego aside and ask

(29:37):
for help and continue to help people today that have
gone through similar things because right now I have a
really great career, really great family, and I'm able to
you know, just live after that. It didn't hold me back.
I didn't, you know, develop any underlying problems from that situation,

(30:03):
just because I was so stubborn in a way that
I didn't want that situation to break me. And so
my brother was listening to your show, and I'm a
listener too, as a matter of fact. I think I
was in third grade living in Humble, a task acta area,
and there was a child named Michael Barry in my

(30:26):
class and we've just I think it's your net it
was your nephew. I'm not sure, but this was around
two thousand and one. Yeah, third grader and it was
you know, he said, oh, hey, Victoria, there's you know,
they said, anybody who's been kidnapped or snuck in in

(30:47):
the disguise to call. And I said, well, you know,
I've my family knows this story, but I just want
to also share that story because, you know, for anybody
that has going through that or it's currently going through it,
just knowing that other people have gone through it to
know exactly what it feels like and to kind of

(31:10):
see the light at the end of the tunnel and
that the help is out there and you can you know,
regain your life back and have that you know, confidence again.
It just takes that understanding and time.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Really, your story, Victoria, is not in the purest sense.
You know, somebody who's jogging and the guy jumps out
and puts a gun to your head and takes you away,
and you know, kind of gone, girl, that ended up
not being either. You know that. I think of the
guy in Cleveland, Ohio that it took these girls and

(31:43):
had them held hostage in the house. You know, these
creepy guys that do this, and they do it, you know,
to a random stranger. What was the little girl? Was
Elizabeth smart Yours isn't exactly that. I mean, there was
some part of defying your parents, but lord knows, you
never asked to be put in that situation. It was
against your will, and uh so you know that it's

(32:07):
a horrible, horrible thing. But what's interesting is that you
have an ability now to talk about it, because I
can't imagine. You know this, this is tough. And I
watch these these stories and women will often say, and
sometimes you'll see a reporter ask them, you know, why
didn't you just run away? And you know, earlier in

(32:30):
my life I would ask the same question, you know,
you idiot, why don't you just run away? But I've
come to understand that we're not all the same, and
that some people psychologically, at that moment, whether it's a
child or a woman, or or a prisoner of war
or whatever else, at that moment, the fear can be paralyzing,

(32:52):
and and there's a lot more that goes into it
than that. We're talking as logical people right now, not
as someone who is caught in the throat of this.
It's sort of like, you know, why does a sixteen
year old commit suicide because his girlfriend breaks up with him?
Because in his mind this is the most important thing
in the world and he can't go on living. And
you realize when you're fifty four, your sixteen year old
girl breaking up with you was nothing, you know, some

(33:14):
of God's grace gifts or unanswered prayers. But at the time,
in your mindset, in your crazy little mind, it made sense.
And I suppose in your crazy little mind and your
and your wounded, vulnerable, hurt mind, at that point it
didn't make sense. And it wasn't until it did that
that you did. Can I wrap this conversation by asking

(33:35):
you to briefly tell me how you're doing today?

Speaker 4 (33:39):
Oh? Yeah, yeah, today? You know, I I'm really great.
I would never think that. Yeah, if I if I
asked myself back then, if I thought that, I would have,
you know, mental stability and you know, great relationship you
know with a man too. That also affected me. I
thought gosh, how can I ever, you know, come across

(34:02):
like a man ever again and trust him. That was
my biggest thing, because I do you know, love is
important in everyone's lives, and I thought this, this man
took away my ability to love someone and trust a
man and be vulnerable again. But you know it just
I'm doing really great, and you know, I'm able to

(34:23):
talk about this without you know, tearing up a crying.
There was years when I couldn't even think about talking
about this with my parents, you know, with most of
my family, but it's just something that they've come to
see me as a stronger person for. And going back
to what you said, you know, back then, people would

(34:43):
be like, why didn't you just run away? Well? I
was afraid of bikers. I mean, Arizona was littered with them,
and I didn't know how the extensions of this biker gang.
But I mean there would be people who would be murdered,
held hot, like women who would just disappear, and it's like,

(35:03):
oh my gosh. I didn't want that to be me.
I wanted to somehow scheme my way logically out of it.
And so that's what kept me there for so long.
But I just reached a breaking point and I couldn't
do it anymore.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Well, you sound like you're very composed together, balanced today,
and that's that's what matters most. It's not an easy
thing to come through, Victoria. Thank you for sharing your story.
I really do appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
Yeah, thank you for having me.

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