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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. So
Michael Verie Show is on the air. You get bad

(00:42):
people in office when you don't pay attention to races
that aren't in your community, when you don't pay attention
to races where you don't know anybody. Al Green is
not serving his congressional dish. Well most people know that

(01:03):
is serving himself. But who will run against him? We
were asked to speak to one of his challengers and
we readily agreed. His name is Dedrick Wilmer. Welcome to
the program, Dedrick, Michael Man.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
I want to thank you for happen this morning. I
want to tell the listening audience THO in the Houston
area be kelful and the severe weather we have this
morning today.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
I what caught my attention is somebody sent me your
bio and asked if I would talk to you. And
I saw in your business background that you own a
company called Gumbo Lending which was spelled g U M
b E a u X and growing up on the
Louisiana border. That caught my attention. Give us your bio.

(01:51):
Tell us who you are man.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
You know you know you're from Orange, Texas, Man, so
you know Orange, Texas always was extensive my life. My family.
My mother's side is from Elizabeth, Louisiana, Allen Parish, so
everybody who migrated from Louisiana came to the I called
the original Golden Triangle, where you are where you're native of.
But just me in a Nutshelle the public servant. I
served the Harris County Mud District two forty eight as

(02:17):
well as president, founder of Gumbo Lenning. I've been in
mortgage banking almost thirty years. Man. So it comes with
common sense, It comes to approach, and also comes with discipline.
And this is what the ninth District needs. It needs
real leadership, It needs common sense, and it needs an
opportunity where everybody can work together to serve the needs

(02:38):
of the Ninth District first, the Houston Metropolitan Era, second Texas,
third and the nation beyond. And this is where we
need to have that common sense approach that someone's willing
to work on all parties together to focus on the
needs of the district. Because it's a very very very
complex district.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Explain that what I don't disagree.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Disagree you know, Michael, you know as you served the
city council back in early two thousand, which I admire
you man, you was ahead of your time. And one
thing about this district. It compassed southern part of Harris
County from fifty nine from shut Down to this and
that all the way down to Stafford and to do
a sling shot all the way to forty five at

(03:22):
Telephone Road, Okay, a swing shot and so and then
it goes all the way down to northern Bassouria and
northern for being so it encompass a very true urban district,
but also too it gives a very strong suburbia district.
So it's the best of both worlds. But what has
happened is that we have a current representative that doesn't

(03:44):
understand that, who doesn't gratch for that, that you got
to serve the needs of Proland and Stafford just as
much as you serve you know, from Telephone Road on
forty five on the southeast side of Houston, just as
much as South Park and Sunnyside. You have to be
flexible how to walk into gouvernment at the same time.
And what has happened we have this one sided representation

(04:06):
is that you've got to take care all of you
your constenuous in the district and different income levels, just
like we're talking as medicaid talk we've got going on
right now. But you still got to get earmarks for
your your mud districts. But most important, your city is
like your parallant who needs it, Stafford who needs it?

(04:27):
You know sid if you used to get their share
share share shaff funding from the federal government. You and
I both know that. But you have other municipalities who
need that support as well. And this is what what
we don't have when you have a current representative Michael
who don't have a have relationships with his counterparts in Congress,

(04:48):
but most important with the White House. And that's what
I'm talking about white house. I'm not talking about a
Trump white House. I'm talking about abiding an Obama white
House you know previously, but also to build relationships with
a various government agencies. That's what we don't have right now.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Tell me a little bit as you traverse this district
about what you hear, because you don't run against an
incoming if they're doing a good job. What are the
complaints about Al Green? And I'll tell you I knew
Al Green twenty five years ago and he was a
Justice of the peace. And he was kind of a

(05:27):
hell fellow, well met he was. He was a likable guy,
slapped people on the back, nice. It was always very
nice to me. And he was a guy in the
community who was who was well like I was he corrupt?
I don't know, it's the JP. You know, you're trying
to decide whether to kick somebody out of an apartment
he hadn't paid for. He was a well liked guy,

(05:48):
and and and nobody didn't like al Green. He remembered
everybody's name. He'd been around forever. And he got to
Congress and he was under Sheila Jackson Lee's shadow, and
it was as if he just kind of like said,
you know, I ain't hang around long enough. I and
get a pension. And and once Sheila passed, it's like
all of this pent up Jasmine Crockett wanna be behavior

(06:12):
he has changed and I don't. I don't talk to
anybody in the district black white, Hispanic, young old who
is happy with what he's done. People people view him
sort of as as foolish and inept, and it's kind
of a sad way to end a career. But anyway,
what do you hear? What what what's the word on

(06:33):
the street.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
I hear the same settlement, and you know it goes
back to again Sheila Jackson Lee and Lord bless her soul.
And she was she was a great statesman. And and
you know she carried the Houston delegation. You know, she
was the fundraiser. That was her insiement. But al kind of,
you know, was the you know, kind of like the
backup singer that no one knows. And so once I

(06:57):
followed the candidcy back in with the FEC pay for
work back the last week of February, that's when you
start saying Al Green hosting every his weekly press conferences
and then he and then of course he saw the
reaction what he did, displayed his actions back on the
Joint Session of Congress. So back you said that Jasmine
Crockett mindset just embedded to him is that, Hey, I

(07:19):
have a formidable candidate, someone who's going to challenge him,
someone who's you, who's young, someone who's experienced, and someone
who has common sense and knows what he's talking about
and knows what he's doing. But as let me give
you a tidbip. I don't know if you noticed on Michael.
In the last twenty years since he'd been at office, okay,

(07:40):
almost ten election cycles. There's only three pieces of articles
legislation that he had passed through Congress. One of them
was in amendment to a current legislation Okay, and that
was back in twenty fifteen, okay. And the other two
with names on buildings. That's his body of work, Michael. Okay.

(08:01):
So his body of work is really I'm in the shaft,
like you said, I'm here to get a pension, but
I'm not doing the work. But but the folks in Stafford,
the folks in stall Park, Sunnyside, the folks in other
areas want somebody.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
To make it happen for the His name is Dedrick
Wilmer D E. A. D R I C. K. Wilmer.
You can find him online Wilmer for Texas dot Com.
Giving information is not sneaky.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
It's a.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Trump has a plan.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
He's making it real. Open the rock, it's the yard
of the dew.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
He's bringing it back. No Paroland, no ball.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
This plan is so huge it's too be to fail.
Our cutrum, it's the rock.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
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Speaker 3 (09:32):
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Speaker 4 (09:46):
Welcome to the Rock News Show on TV.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Where the scum of the earth are.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
The ones that we see way out in the Bay
San Francisco.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
The worst of the worst are gonna put on a show.
I've got try. It's the Rock, can't It's out. They're
gonna spa wood and hay Let's gonna try. They're gonna

(10:50):
protest to make this plan die. They're gonna give it
their best.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
But we don't know.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Mother didn't lose or scream. We're gonna go home with
the prom Queen alcultrum storrock out on us.

Speaker 6 (11:20):
Wood.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
It had.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
President Trump announcing yesterday that he wants to reopen Alcatraz,
put the bad guys. Alcatraz Island, or simply Alcatraz or
the a maximum federal security prison one point two five

(12:09):
miles off the coast of San Francisco. It was a
fort originally in the eighteen fifties. The main prison was
built over a three year period from nineteen ten through
the end of nineteen twelve. It was acquired by the

(12:32):
federal government in nineteen thirty three, and of course the
site of many legends. There are apparently great white sharks
that swim in the waters around it, so if you
do get out of the actual building and end up

(12:53):
in the water, then you risk chumming them with your
very existence coming bait for them. You got Birdman of Alcatraz,
which I assume is probably the most famous movie about it.
So I did something yesterday. Social media is very useful

(13:14):
to me because I'm constantly doing show research. By the
way people respond to things I say and questions I ask,
and it's a it's a pretty good sample size. So
I asked the question yesterday. I said, research question. Please.
This was at four point fifty just before the evening show.

(13:34):
Please don't look at your news feed or check any website.
It's four pm. Sorry, it's four fifty pm. As I
posted this, tell me what you think is the biggest
news story today. There are no wrong answers, and don't
criticize other people's answers. Just off the top of your head,
what do you think is the biggest news story today.

(13:55):
I'm not gonna judge you if the only thing you
can remember turns out not to be the most important issue.
Once you have reviewed the news sites, you know, because
people will answer and then I look at them. Oh,
I should have said that. I'm curious what is stuck
in your mind today already without checking the news. It's
purely for my own research. The number one answer by far.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
By far.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Was Trump says he'll reopen Alcatraz. Willie probably not pretty
pretty big effort. May or may not. It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter to me.

Speaker 6 (14:35):
I mean I love it.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy these sorts of things.
But the President made some pretty amazing substantive announcements in
the morning, but they got buried in the midst of
this story, as everything else does. Trump is a master

(15:02):
at this game because he understands the rules within which
he's operating. He's got to control the news near it
with constant things like this. That's what he does, and

(15:24):
this just goes to show it works. Alcatraz is back
open for business. If you get vaccinated, you are protected
even with the delta varian.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
We know that as a fact.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Hello Democrats, welcome back to the rock. The vaccines we
have do protect well against the delta varian.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
So if ever there was a.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Reason to get vaccinated in rate now now late now
closing sales scene, Yes.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
I think Donald Trump is correct in that it's kind
of hard to believe they've gone through six hundred and
fifty thousand emails in such a short period of time.

Speaker 7 (16:01):
Nothing I said or received was mark classified.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
Well, what I'm saying is it wasn't at the time closing.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
I did my job.

Speaker 7 (16:10):
I never discussed a single thing with my son about
anything having to do with Ukraine. No one is indicated
I had. We've always kept everything separate. Even when my
son was the Attorney general of the state of Delaware.
We never discussed it so there'd be no potential conflict.

Speaker 6 (16:24):
Closing cell blocking.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
The rock to Trump is coming for.

Speaker 6 (16:31):
You, America, America. I gave my best to you.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Your best. Losers always whine about the best.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Winners go home from Queen the words of George bard
Shore and the words that were taken by Robert F.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Kin.

Speaker 6 (16:54):
These children speak Chinese and bannised.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Michael Mam said, what do you want here? Had a
minute despair, so I thought, I'll look up nineteen ninety
one song because I don't know any just for kick,
because he's younger than that. And I thought, which one
is the least worse? And I gave him this and

(17:18):
his eyes bugged out, like, oh, he's finally coming around
some good music and Ramone said, this is the first
album I ever bought? Album or CD CD, first CD
ever bought? Now? Was it the first music you ever bought?
Or the first music as a CD? Compact?

Speaker 2 (17:38):
This? All right?

Speaker 1 (17:38):
What had you bought before that? Tape? Cassette tapes? How
do you remember this being the first CD that you bought?
Where'd you buy it? By simonal moment? You mean over
pertaining to Seamen?

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Which Sam Goodman? Which Sam Goody? Baybrook? Mall? How about that?
Did you go by yourself? Your family?

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (18:05):
You were fourteen? Okay?

Speaker 2 (18:06):
All right?

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Now where did money come from to buy it? I like,
was this an allowance thing? Or you just asked your parents?
How can I have this CD? Did you get an allowance? Interesting?
We've been on this big budgeting thing in our household.

(18:28):
My wife and I have been on budgeting one oh one.
So we've gone back and we reviewed every expenditure, cut
out all the you know, the crazy one when we
started all this is subscriptions. If you go to your
if you know how to go to your Apple subscriptions,
and the way you know how to get to your

(18:48):
Apple subscriptions is you hire Emily, and she takes you
to it and she says, okay, you got shape shifter.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
What is that?

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Oh, it's the thing that if you it'll change the
look of your face and do well. I don't. Yeah,
it's on here. Yeah, you pay four ninety nine a
month for it, which means my kids probably put it
on my phone when they were six, you know, twelve
years ago. And you realize it doesn't sound like much.
Sixty bucks a year for ten years. It adds up.

(19:21):
It adds up, and so now I go through credit
card statements with a fine tooth comb and go through everything.
And when you start reviewing that sort of stuff, it's crazy.
Listen to how Bad nineteen ninety one was the number
one song of the year is Brian Adams. Everything I do,

(19:41):
I do it for you. I mean, is there a
more bubblegum pop, guilt ridden white dude with a kind
of let me not say anything. They'll upset anybody. Everything
I do I do it for I'm here just we

(20:01):
love my heart for you. You're a girl and boy.
Everything I do, I do it for you. When I
wake up in the morning, I do it for you.
When I take a poop, I do it for you.
I just do it all for you. No, keep going,
go ahead, go with your stupid music. Let no, let'
let's hear it. Let's let's let's display the best song

(20:22):
mating anyone. Look into my heart.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Job.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
It's got to be a David Foster, oh Robin hood
with Kevin Oh great? So you got a bad song
and a bad movie not a year huh.

Speaker 5 (20:43):
Don't tell me it's not love.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Child, forgive you. If you cry, you might shed a
tear on usenetum me, it's not chill is not worth
fighting for.

Speaker 6 (20:56):
I'm willing to fight for my love for you, Jennifer.
I'm willing to fight for.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
My love for you. I do everything for you. Did
you work at the record store? If you live with
your parents and we go to the movies on Friday night,
don't get carried away here. I'm gonna fight for you, Jennifer.

Speaker 6 (21:23):
Who You're gonna fight?

Speaker 2 (21:24):
What?

Speaker 6 (21:26):
Just saying my love for you.

Speaker 8 (21:29):
I'm gonna put on a jacket, ride my bike to
your house. We're gonna go to the movies. But I'm
gonna fight for this love. Dude, you're twenty and I'm twenty.
Both live with our parents. You work at the record store.
I'm working. I'm doing the shampoos at the hairstylist. We

(21:51):
don't know what we're gonna do. I'm probably gonna get
pregnant and we get together one day a week. What
are you fighting for?

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Who? What? What?

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Great? External?

Speaker 2 (22:01):
For?

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Is Genghis Khan coming between us and you're conquering his army?

Speaker 6 (22:07):
What are you?

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Who are you fighting for?

Speaker 6 (22:08):
Brian? Brian, turn it out.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
No loving you're loved? Oh God, what great lyrics? Oh man,
I could almost write this one in my sleeve. No oh, no,

(22:40):
fight for her, Brian, fight for her.

Speaker 6 (22:44):
Listen to this.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Look into my eyes. You will see what you mean
to me. Search your heart, search your soul. When you
find me there, you'll search no more. Don't tell me
it's not worth trying for. You can't tell me it's
not worth dying for. Oh, trying and dying, Okay, you

(23:07):
know it's true. You know it's true.

Speaker 6 (23:12):
Everything I do, I do it for you.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Look into your heart, you will fund There's nothing there
to hide. Take me as I am, Take me as
I am, Take my life. I would give it all,
I would sacrifice.

Speaker 5 (23:28):
Slow down, Brian, you work at the Record Store, Nobody's
I would give my life for you, Jennifer.

Speaker 6 (23:41):
Nobody's bothering to take your life, Brian. I would give
my life for you, Jennifer. Bryan.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
It's our third day and we're at We're at Hearty's.
That's not getting carried away. Nobody here is trying to
take your life. The number two song was I Want
to Sex You Up by Color Me Bad. Okay, not

(24:19):
a lot going on in society at the time, just
to hey, I'm really into you. I want to hump you.
I will die for you. I love you so much.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
I love you.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Number three was Gonna make You Sweat Everybody dance now
see and See Music Factory. Number four Rush Rush Paula
Abdul a dancer Really, Then One More Try by Timmy
t Unbelievable by emf Unremarkable if he has me more

(24:52):
than words by Extreme. I like the way the Kissing
Game by High Five The First Time by Surface Baby
Baby by Amy Grant, Motown Philly by Boys to Men.

Speaker 6 (25:05):
Jump Here is not a good year ninety one.

Speaker 7 (25:07):
Oh Wear That Poor Dish and Michael Berry show The
Evoke an Evil stunt cycle, rum Ideal.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Funny, How Our opinion of music, which is art, changes
depending on how old we are. So Renee Broussar right,
it's make Ramon stop. It's awful, but you are too funny.
That is all. Have a great day. He's cute. Here's
her picture down at the bottom. Now you don't know

(25:37):
if that picture is twenty years ago, but she's it's
a cute picture. Gerald writes, So you know Gerald is
my age or older. Because they stopped naming kids Gerald,
I don't think there's a kid under twenty in his
country named Gerald. I really don't. Brian Adams sucks and
always has. Brian looks like someone caught his face on

(25:58):
fire and put it out with an ice pick. I've
always hated his lame ass music. One of the worst
Canadian musicians ever. People with i'll say crap taste in
music love this twit hated him ever since he was
going to protest the training bathrooms in North Carolina. Peter
Satara and Michael Bolton probably think this song is weak.

(26:21):
I think Peter Satara is Brian Anas. I've never seen
him in the same place. At the same time, the
Brian Adams song was so popular because it was the
headliner song for Kevin Costner's Robin Hood, which was about
as epic as water World in The Postman. Thanks Suzanne.
You know, there was a day we were cruising alone

(26:42):
there and babies were named Suzanne. And then there was
a day that somebody said.

Speaker 6 (26:48):
Everybody, hey, knock at all.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah, whistle hold on. I could normally whistle.

Speaker 6 (26:59):
Hey, hey, hey, hey guys, real quick, real quick, just.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
If I just work real quick. Uh, don't name any
more baby Suzanne. And they're like, okay, all right, that's it.
Don't name me more babies, Susanne.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
That's it. That's it.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
So I went to an event last night, and I
don't go to events anymore. He used to go to events.
He used to do five events tonight. When I was
running for city council. When I was on city council,
my assistant Monica Ice Pua and her glorious wonderful self
would RSV peeve me for every event, and she would
have me announced at every event. So you'd go to

(27:41):
the event and then say, you know, we're gonna announce
our elected officials here. I don't know why, I think
back now, it's the stupidest thing. We still do it.
We have an event here, and everybody's here, but some people,
some people are gonna have their name announced. Why because
they're elected official and it makes us feel like the
event is more special. Why what nonsense? So it announced

(28:08):
your name and you move. As soon as that happens,
you move to the next event. I don't go to
events anymore, so it's kind of nice now to go
to events, like it's like a cultural experience, right to
see how people live, especially because there's an event. There's
ten events every night for the river Oaks socialized business

(28:30):
philanthropic community, and so they all see each other every night,
so it gets kind of bored boring to them. But
for me it's interesting because there's people I haven't seen
him forever. So my friend Gary Peterson was being honored.
Gary should get a ding. He's a billion there, he
should get a ding. He is a co founder of
a company called end Cap and Gary and Marty Phillips

(28:55):
and Bob Zorich who I used to play tennis with
every morning. And the funny thing is Zurich is one
of these guys. They they have funded. They they got
Jeff Hildebrand started, they got a lot of people started,
a lot of people who've made many, many billions of
dollars in in Texas and beyond, got their first or

(29:16):
early rounds of funding from en CAP, and so they're
sort of the godfathers of of of energy. And what
do you mean midstream, upstream or downstream? You don't know
the difference anyway, you idiot. Stop using terms you don't
know anyway. So these guys, uh, you know, they're kind

(29:36):
of godfather's. Oh so it was so it was three
co founders. So it was those three. It was Chris Harris,
I'm sorry, Chris Pappas and Harris Pappas and it was
Rich Kender and uh, I think it's Bob Morgan. I
don't know Morgan. I've never met him before. But it's
just interesting for me to see these people that I

(29:58):
don't because I don't to go to this stuff every night.
Used to see these people all night. So you know,
you see all the legends of River Oaks and of
Houston society, the people who who pay for the Houston
Museum of Natural Science, like Bigger and we call him
Big Ernie because his son is Little Ernie, who was
my age. But Big Ernie Cockrel and Corby Robertson and

(30:20):
just the legends of Houston that when I when I
came to Houston, it was the Jack Blantons and Quintana
Oil and those guys. And now we're at that next
generation and eventually they won't be there, and it's weird
because it'll be my generation. But I don't think you
get the personalities you used to have with with with

(30:41):
those older guys. And I don't know how the philanthropy
holds up, but those those folks, the Cockrels and Robertson's
and and those families, man, they they paid for everything.
You think about how big those endowments had to be.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
There was.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Houston Endowment, which was the biggest, and then there were
I forget, but everything that happened Jones Hall, the Symphony,
the Alley, University of Houston, everything that happened in town
was mostly just this handful of families. Anyway, So afterwards

(31:21):
we went over to Armando's. Hadn't been to Armando's in
a long time. Armando's is a throwback. And the funny
thing is it was Cinco de Mayo and Russell and
Borrow's good friends with Gary Peterson, so he was with
us Paul Murphy, my old buddy in the banking business.
Dear dear friend and a great human being. Robert Tierna

(31:41):
who's a jet broker and owns a vodka company. Follow
named John Demalkey. I did not know him before. His
dad was a Hungarian Olympian, a wrestler back in the day.
You know how you go into those old text Max
restaurants always that everybody has like their grandfather was a
wrestler back nineteenth he's you know, they're wearing the big

(32:02):
diapers in the lace up boots. His dad was one
of those people. And JJ Isabel who's big deal in
the trucking business. He has a company called trans Texas
something something, trans Texas Trucking, trans Texas something. But the
reason I love JJ in addition to all the other

(32:22):
things is he and Russell got together and they put
camp Hope on all his tankers. Biggest overroad fuel transportation
company in state of Texas. I think that's true. If
it's not, who's going to question me? And they put
PTSD foundation in America. If you need help, couse number
all right, Ramon wants to know from y'alls. Listen carefully

(32:44):
before you call the first music you recall buying, or
the first CD you bought, even if you had cassettes
before that. I want to know the year and what
the music was, and if you remember where it was,
think about it. Rehearse it in your head before you call,
so your call is nothing short of excellent. It's not

(33:05):
the rush Land Ball Show, Okay it's not, but it's
also not the Mad seven one three nine nine nine
one thousand seven one three, nine nine nine one thousand.
Tell us if it's the first music you remember ever
buying at all, it could be an LP, or it's
the first CD you bought it, and why.

Speaker 6 (33:26):
You bought it and where you bought it.

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