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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time time time lucking load. The Michael
Verry Show is on the air. Got night looking into Mica.
We gotta feed every beard.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
I don't plan to shave, and it's you the thing,
but I just gotta see.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
I'm doing all right. We'll got make me support me.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
It's beating Ridictu.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
That's a true.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
It's neither drinking, no drug indu nooom, just doing alright.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
It's a great dad, I know it. Soun's still shining
around a clothes.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Yes, it's hard times in the neighborhood, but why can't.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Every day he just says good. Had an eventful weekend.
It was.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
You had the Army two hundred and fiftieth Birthday parade.
You had a nasty assassination in the state of Minnesota,
which really went from a state that nobody ever talks
about to being one of the most broken in the country.

(01:25):
White progressive liberalism run am up. You had more of
the Antifa and left wing sorows white liberal uprisings. They
called it no Kings, and as it turns out, they
were successful.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
We don't have a king. How about that? They succeeded.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
A lot going on in economics in our economy. Over
the weekend and through this morning stocks point out had
highre She's been interesting day.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
As stock futures rose.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
You had the Israel Iran situation heating up to a
great degree, which means, of course that the markets get
skittish around the world on that because they don't like instability.
But it also means that American benchmark crude rises because

(02:30):
the expectation is you're going to have limitations on oil
coming out of the Middle East. On Friday, US benchmark
crew jumping seven point three percent, its largest weekly gain
since the October seventh massacre back in twenty twenty three,
which was a similar circumstance in terms of instability in

(02:51):
the Middle East. The price of gold, which is usually
pegged to instability and uncertainty in the markets, continued with that,
rising one point five percent to a record.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Let's just say, our friend Kenny Duncan Junior over at
US Coins is very, very busy these days because when
there is stock market volatility, commodity volatility, international war fears.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Volatility, gold rises immediately and he's the guy people go
to buy their gold. So I buy from to everybody,
I send everybody to what was interesting is that bitcoin
did not rise. Bitcoin should be, in theory pegged to gold,

(03:44):
maybe not dollar for dollar, but you would expect that
it would have seen a concurrent increase, but it didn't.
Fell up by one point six percent on Friday, which
was even more than the S and P five hundred,
which surprises me. And then that was a four percent
drop over the course of three days. Same thing happened

(04:06):
back in April, following Trump's Liberation Day, stocks worldwide swooned
as the market, as the Wall Street Journal referred to it,
and so did Bitcoin, dropping seven point five percent in
six days. And the Ukraine Russia problems. You would have

(04:26):
expected to drive Ukraine up and they would to drive
Bitcoin up, but they did not. I read an article
on the fact that one of the reasons bitcoin has
momentarily had to bloom off its rose is that Trump
is so bullish on bitcoin and that bitcoin had an
anti establishment street cred. That's the weirdest reason for that

(04:49):
I've ever heard mentioned. I don't know how many people
are buying a particular financial instrument on the basis that
the establishment doesn't like it. I think that was just
one of the things that burnished Bitcoin is that people
that were buying bitcoin felt like they were being a
little naughty, and now it's not naughty anymore because President

(05:10):
Trump is supporting it. He thinks it's a great idea.
He's very much in favor of it. Locally. The illegal
alien convicted of murdering Harris County Precinct five Corporal Charles
Galloway has been sentenced to death. This is going to
be number one in Chad's prep. Jim, this is the

(05:30):
story we had Constable now retired, Constable ted Heap on
a few days ago. He was the lead witness and
the star witness in that case. Oscar Roussalis murdered Corporal
Charles Rosalis and illegal alien. As you recall, the trial
has been held and he has been convicted and sentenced

(05:52):
to death.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
He made the world dimmer by taking that bright light
that was shown by Galloway.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
He was not just a police officer.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
He was a friend.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
He was a father, He was a mentor, He was
a brother, he was an uncle.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
He was all of these things to a lot of people.
The police officers was one part of his identity, but
he was so much more than that.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
Everybody we talked to he said he was just a
larger than life personality, somebody that was just gregarious and
outdoing and wanted never knew a stranger, and so his
loss was felt deeply by pre Joe.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
And I think one of the most telling things about CROPA.
Galloway we talked about was his giving nature and how
we live in a world now where people get too
busy to help each other out and sometimes they expect
things in return. But Corpora Galloway, through every witness we saw,
whether it was in his police work or in his
personal life, he just wanted to help people. He just
wanted to be that guy that helped people to make
the world a better place.

Speaker 6 (06:47):
I was booths on the ground while we were catching
this this defendant, So it means something even more to
me to be here and to be able to empower
our track team in getting the justice that the chuck
and our whole community deserve.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Tomorrow will be the anniversary of the date that twelve
year old josly And Nungerai was tortured, raped and thrown
into a ditch like a piece of trash by illegal aliens.
Corporal Charles Galloway nurses nursing students running on the campus

(07:29):
of the University of Georgia, police officers, college students, again
and again and again. Deport them, murderers, rapists, drunk drivers.
We are a better country when we enforce our immigration laws.

(07:52):
America supports those immigration laws. You know how We know
that because if we didn't, they would change them who
break our laws. And I'm talking about American citizens, American
police chiefs, American district attorneys, American governors, congressman, state reps.
Those individuals would be all too eager to change our laws.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
But we don't. And this is the reason, this is
the Michael Berry Show. Locked and loaded loaded.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
For years, Domino's was the premier delivery pizza and it's
the first pizza I remember in my little orbit that
you could get delivered to you. Chinese food restaurants would

(08:55):
deliver and they would do it internally. So you would
call the restaurant and you would order, and somebody out
of the kitchen, or somebody off the floor of serving
or one of the family members would drive your food
to you.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
And there's only one box it could come from. It
could come in. It was the white box with the
red lettering. You couldn't read the words and neither could I.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
And then it was close shut so that when you
opened it, the steamy goodness of the white rice would
come out. I swear there had to be only one
box manufacturer because they were all the same.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
And Chinese to Go was something.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
I don't remember Chinese to Go as early in Houston
as it was a phenomenon in New York, which is
where it really blossomed. But delivery pizza, we couldn't get
it in Orange because we didn't really live in Orange.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
We lived out in the country.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
But I remember when I came to Houston, people would
order a Domino's pizza to the dorm, to the apartment
I lived in, and it was a big deal. It
was a really big deal. And it was always Domino's
and it would be there in less than thirty minutes.
That was the guarantee. I delivered pizza for Pizza Hut,
the one at Holcombe and Fannin on that corner there,

(10:19):
and at thirty minutes, if you didn't deliver it, you'd
have to come back and get another one, because that
we hadn't met the So you could just throw that
pizza away. Well I didn't throw it away. I'd bring
it to my wife. And when you're not making any
money and you're a poor student and you get a
free pizza, well.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
That was a treat.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
The reason it would take more than thirty minutes was
not the distance of the drive.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
It was that they would try to stack several.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Pizzas on one delivery, and you'd get to one of
these Section eight of housing apartments and you go snaking
through there. You don't know where you're going to get shot.
Some people don't answer the door because it might be
the popo. It's a white guy at the door. So anyway,
Domino's Pizza as the deal. And then something happened over
the years that Dominoes just wasn't so good anymore, and

(11:07):
there began this gradual slide and Pizza Hut, Pizza Inn.
Jim has worked as a delivery driver. I have worked
as a delivery driver, and Ramon has worked at the
Pizza Hut in Texas City. I don't know if Chad
and Kunda happened. I'll find out shortly. That would mean
so at least sixty percent of our team has worked
at a at a pizza joint. So in the year

(11:32):
two thousand and nine, Domino's Pizza took a very aggressive approach.
They did a they had They were in the middle
of a several year process because they were watching their
market share eroad and they saw that they better right
this ship because it's all about trends and the big
dog that was causing them the most trouble was, of course,

(11:56):
Papa John's. Papa John's Pizza was considered a better tasting,
better flavor. One of the tricks to Papa Jenhons, which
we now know, is that they're tomatoes. They internally purchased
the tomato farms because they wanted to be able to
control the sauce, and they overripen those of you who

(12:16):
before he was driven out, the owner who was really
the face of the company told the story on air.
They overripen their tomatoes and farmers know, and I don't
claim that I would have, but farmers know that if
you overripen a tomato, it turns into sugar. So that

(12:37):
became a very natural sugar. And the American palate has
been coaxed into eating more and more sugar without even
realizing it. You know, there's that moment when you find
out how much sugar is in the ketchup that you've
been using.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
There is that moment.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
These are things that I was aware of because my
dad's a diabetic and there were foods that he couldn't eat.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
And I said, Dad, how come we can't eat that?
It's not sugar. Well it turns out yes it is.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
So Domino's Pizza did a multi year study on what
was going wrong while they still had the market share
and the money to do it, and they embraced the
idea that they were failing. The recipe was bad, their
cheese was bad, their sauce was bad, their dough was bad.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Other than that, Missus Lincoln, how'd you like to play?
It was terrible.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
And they could no longer do the thirty minute delivery
time because they had had so many fatalities by drivers
rushing to get there in thirty minutes because they'd be
penalized if they didn't. That they were driving like maniacs,
like tow truck drivers. So now you had a situation
where they no longer had their competitive advantage of we'll

(13:49):
deliver before anyone else, and what will deliver won't be
any good. So in two thousand and nine they did
an ad and coming up at ten o'clock will play
you that ad. And since that ad in twenty ten,
Domino's Pizza has increased in value more than Apple, more

(14:10):
than Google, more than which is alphabet.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
More than Meta, more than any of them. There are
only three stocks that have outperformed their growth since twenty ten.
It has been used as an MBA.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Study across the country of it's a good and healthy
thing to embrace your failures, to admit them, because the
idea of you know, the cat that poops and covers
it up, the person who pushes things under the rug,
people don't want that. People expect you to be mature

(14:47):
enough to admit your mistakes and your failings.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
That ad has always been a lot to me.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Well, we have a show sponsor, had a show sponsor
called City Business Products, and they do two major things
they do. They deliver office supplies. Now you might think, well,
so's office depot not like this. This isn't the Amazon
driver that delivers your stuff at four o'clock in the
morning and leaves it in a box out front and.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
You may or may not have it when you get
It's people that get and office furniture.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Well, we lost them because we weren't performing, and I said,
you know what, I'm going to tell our audience that
we're going to win them back.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
So I'll tell you about that commotion the Michael Berry show.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Your ill So I have asked the owner of I've
asked the owner of.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Velocity Business Products to join me at ten O'clock's name
is J. D. Pettigo.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
And the reason I brought up the whole Domino story
is I think we all have something to learn from
that in our personal relationships, in our parenting relationships. I
can tell you some of the big break some of
the biggest breakthroughs, not bake throughs, but breakthroughs with my
sons have been when I have said, hey, you know

(16:12):
you did this wrong. I probably didn't approach it the
right way. I thought I was going about the right way.
I think I made the problem worse. That's a failing
by me as your father. What we both want to
see you do is make an a in that course.
Maybe you shouldn't have gone to the swim party, and
you should have stayed home and studied.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
But there's got to be balance in life.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
In me yelling at you after you didn't make an a,
that probably didn't make you want to study more. I
could have handled that in a more constructive way to say,
what did we learn from that, Let's do better. I
have found that admitting a mistake builds a level of
intimacy and I don't mean romantic, but it builds a

(16:57):
level of intimacy in the workplace, in your personal relationships.
It has an incredible effect, but it's very hard to do.
It's antithetical to our human nature. The worst form of
manager because they're not leaders. Especially see this in elected officials,

(17:17):
is the unwillingness and inability to ever take blame for
a mistake, for an error. Great leaders will take blame
and never take credit. Part of being a great leader.
So we were talking about pizza delivery and Chance McLain
sent an email. It was funny about his timing is

(17:39):
that I watched an interview with Old Kadra this weekend,
who was a billionaire, and I forget his name, and
I forget even his industry, but he was. What I
found interesting was they were talking about secrets of success,
and he said, you want to see somebody that's successful
as my age. They had a paper route. I had
a paper route. I can't tell you how many successful

(18:01):
people will mention that they had a paper route, and
you think you're seventy years old, and you talk about
what you did from the time you were eight to fourteen.
That's the thing that sticks to them, not where they
went to college, not what their degree was in, if
at all they had a paper route, because a paper
route meant you got it early before anybody else. The

(18:25):
paper was the lifeline to the world. You couldn't fail
to deliver the paper. You had responsibility, and successful people
will rise to the occasion when given responsibility. So I
thought about that all weekend. When I thought about this
Domino story, I spent an hour on the phone with JD. Pettigo,

(18:48):
the owner of Velocity Business Products. I called Daddy and
I said, hey, you have a problem if I do this,
Because I think it's important our listeners understand that for all.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
The successes that we brag about, especially with.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Camp Whope, PTSD Foundation, with our various show sponsors that
just absolutely kill it, multiply their earnings exponentially once they
partner with our show. I think it's important to understand
that one out of a trillion will not work.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
But in this case, I'm not willing to give up
on it.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
I've asked him, I don't want you to come back
on I don't want you to write a check to
our company.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
I don't want you to sign another contract.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
I want to show you that this is a partnership
that I believe can work, and I'm going to redouble
my efforts. But before we do that, Chance McLean wrote,
I delivered for Dominoes and I loved that job. A
unique observation with my Heritage Films. This is when he
goes out and films people for their biography. Gen X
people delivered pizzas Boomers had paper routes. It's the same

(19:52):
type of people that did those two things. There are
disproportionate amount of successful gen xers who once ran pizza,
just like their disproportionate number of successful boomers who had
paper routes.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
That's been my observation. I think there's something to that.
I really do.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
I think there is definitely something to that. So anyway, JD.
Pettigo's company is called.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Velocity BP, which is Velocity Business Products.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
And they do they design and provide your entire office suite,
everything related to office furniture, cubicle stations, all of that
and as it turns out people are still buying that.
I was over visiting one day taking a tour of

(20:41):
the place, and there was a school district that was
building a whole new location and Velocity BP was doing
all of the furniture for an entire school. So that
meant students, administrators, teachers is a big, big project.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
And I thought, well, we got a lot of folks sere.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
They do a don't know if I'm allowed to say
the hospital system, but one of the three major hospital
systems in town.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
You would know they do theirs. This is a business.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
This is a guy who at seventeen years old dropped
out of school and went in the coast guard, ended
up on the straight and narrow, goes to Aggie Land,
gets his degree, starts a business.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Now his kids work in the business.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
It's one of those stories that I just love and
I want to succeed. So anyway, at ten o'clock we
will talk to J. D. Pettigo and I would ask
you if you are the person in your company, whether
that means you're the owner, or you're the office manager,
or you're the procurement director who is in charge of
one of two things. That means the office furniture and
everything that goes with that. And you all are looking

(21:42):
to expand, or you're looking to renovate, or you're looking
to replace, or you've got One of the things I'm
watching with law firms, which I happen to keep up
because of personal interest, is how many law firms are
consolidating space. They had ten thousand square feet and now
they're going down to four thousand.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
They're not doing individual offices anymore.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
They're doing flex spaces or bullpens, or they're doing different
kinds of spaces or shared offices. A lot of companies
are getting away from everybody gets an office and they're
going to a you come in to an office, you may.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Come in twice a week. You just pick an office.
It's open.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
That is a very very common phenomenon. Now, well, as
they do that as a kind of sweeten the pie
they are there, they're bringing in new office space to
make it look cooler. So they do the office furniture,
and they do the office supplies, janitorial supplies, kitchen supplies, everything.
So Eddie Martinez Alaton, he said, well, well, maybe people

(22:40):
view that as a commodity, And I said, it is
a commodity. Furniture is a commodity. Max killing it. Text
Max is a commodity. Russell Lebar is killing it. A
state planning get You can go online and plug in
your name and you get an a state plan. It's
not what you want, but it's a commodity. They've commoditized,
even Eagle Services. Doesn't mean I would encourage it. In fact,

(23:02):
quite the opposite. There are a lot of things selling
Chevy's that's a commodity. Lone Star Chevy has the same
Chevy as everybody else does. It's a better experience when
you sell a better experience. Our listeners care about an experience,
a relationship.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
People who care it matters.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Forget Michael Berry's not.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
God. You always liked this song.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
I think probably the first time is music to my
ears literally because it mentioned Houston and I have an
affinity for the town that's been so good to me.
And there's two versions.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Of that song and I love them both a lot.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
I think Dean Martin, which is considered the original of
the song because it's the first one I heard, and
Shirley Cue Lickors because while it's a cover, it just
it just brings a.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Little more I don't know golden triangle, grip to it.

Speaker 7 (24:08):
I know that's right hard and let's sing something about Houston, Houston, Texas.
That's where this come from. This fabulous radio ram. I'm
about two sets a week gonna him know. I be
onsome in this whole time. Everybody but miss Donald, I

(24:29):
be a face without a name.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Just wat then in the rain.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
I want to go.

Speaker 8 (24:37):
Back to Houston, Euston, Houston.

Speaker 7 (24:45):
I got hold in all of my drow not do't
no wegs, Santa Flower.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
I saw a dollar bill.

Speaker 7 (24:54):
Yesterday, but the wind float it o way.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Got need to go back.

Speaker 8 (25:01):
To Kuston, Houston, Kuston.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
At eight in about a week. I means the husband
plan about guy's pig.

Speaker 7 (25:16):
Nobody is tall, the friends, it's ign.

Speaker 6 (25:21):
Sine that I'm in.

Speaker 8 (25:23):
I'm know with name. Just kiss.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Kiston in this old house.

Speaker 8 (25:35):
Every putting where that's too many, I please put it out.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Your mardon wasn't in the rain. I want to go
back Kuston.

Speaker 8 (25:49):
He kills Kiston, Kirsten kist Kill.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
So why would somebody write a song about Houston. I
had to know if the songwriter, because we've had quite
a few of them. Mark James certainly among the group
who've written songs for Elvis, BJ Thomas and many more
who were from Houston. I did not know who had
written that song. His name is Barton Lee Hazelwood. He

(26:24):
passed in two thousand and seven at seventy eight years old,
And so I looked up where he was born, and
he was born in Manford, Oklahoma, And I thought, what's
his interest in Houston of all the places to pick?
And then I read his dad was an oil worker

(26:44):
who had a sideline as a dance promoter, and I thought, well,
wait a minute, that sounds like somebody.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
That would have gravitated in the world of.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Urban cowboy long before the urban cowboy, because this song
came out long before there. Well, as it turns out,
he spent his teenage years important naches. And if you
spent your teenage years important naches, then the big city
that you would go to, big city, bright lights, just
sort of like if you were in Hoboken, New York,

(27:18):
I Hoboken, New Jersey, you wanted to go to New
York's Hoboken in New York and New Jersey, it is
in Jersey.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
That's what I thought. Yeah, if you grew up.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
In the outskirts of New York, on the New Jersey side,
your dream was to go to New York.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
If you grew up in Naperville, you wanted to go
to Chicago.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
If you grew up in most parts of California, you
wanted to go to la That was the story for
so many years. Maybe not today, but anyway. He and
Nancy Sinatra sang duets together, and Rolling Stone named them

(28:00):
number nine on the twenty Greatest Duos of all Time.
He served in the Korean War in the United States Army,
and he went to SMU. And that's all you need
to know about Lee Hazelwood. I just thought, well, here's
an interesting cat that I didn't know that much about.
All right back to it, shall we? We have a
new candidate. It appears for County judge. She's city council

(28:21):
and Letitia Plumber. Here's the problem. Leticia Plumber had a
little bit of a problem within her campaign. The Spring
Branch Democrats Club posted a copy of a document on
Friday that featured a logo that reads, quote doctor Leticia Plumber,
Democrat for Harris County Judge, and a caption with the

(28:46):
document that reads another candidate.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
For County Judge. Here's the problem.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
It's said that her campaign announcement day would be July eighth.
That's a boo boo rookie mistake. It might have been
released by someone other than her because the law in
the state of Texas, and I'll have to check with
Rachel Palmer Hooper because she's the expert on these things,
says that if you are a sitting officeholder and you

(29:12):
announce a campaign for a position other than the one
you are in, and that that announcement is made more
than one year and thirty days before the election, then
you must resign the position you currently hold. Well, that

(29:32):
would be a big problem for miss Plumber because she's
going to raise a lot more money sitting on city
council to be county judge. Then she is not sitting
on city council because if she's sitting on city council,
you've got engineering firms at a month or two months
or three months from now. They know that they have
responded to an RFP, they've been told by the internal

(29:56):
folks at public Works, and they're looking at a ten
twenty min million dollar contract. They don't want her tagging
their item and working to defeat them and speaking ill
of them. So they just make a little contribution to
her to her campaign, which is her city council campaign,

(30:16):
but she's gonna then turn that money into a Harris
County judge campaign.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
I this strikes me as either a really stupid move
or a move by Rodney to try to get her
into trouble, which is just the sort of thing that
he would do.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Either one of those is possible, and it's possible both
of them are true. She made a bonehead move and
Rodney's out to get her, but she ain't. Rodney's candidate,
Lena Hidalgo is now a nicee porker can beat Lenahdalgo.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
There's no doubt in my mind.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
And people say that the scuttle Bud is a niece
and Rodney are at loggerheads right now, let me tell
you something.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
A niece is very smart. Rodney's very smart.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
When Rodney realizes that a niece is going to win
and that Lena's craziness and problems are going to prevent
her from Rodney will cut a deal with a niece,
mark my words. By the Democrat primary next March, Rodney
will be supporting a niece and she will be the nominet,
no question,
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