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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's that time. Time, time, time, luck and load. The
Michael Verie Show is on the air. It feels like
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that time. We will of course play it tomorrow, but
many of you will be traveling tomorrow and won't get
to hear the program live and may not go back
to the podcast. A quick programming note. We spoke to
Marcus Aetreel for another thirty five minutes after the show
ended yesterday. I saw from listener emails that it was
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a fan favorite of interviews. A lot of folks really
enjoyed that interview. I will tell you I enjoyed it.
I start my day every day with a text from
Marcus and he says, good morning Radio, which is what
he calls me. And we will go back and forth
with some text messages, but we don't get into how
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he became famous. In that history. We talk about our kids,
and our wives, and our health and a book we've
read or a movie we've seen. It was nice for
me to get him to open up about some things
that I had never talked to him about, including the
rescue in the village and some of the details that
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of course couldn't be properly portrayed in a movie. That's
trying to stay two hours and still be true to
what happened. But anyway, we spoke for another thirty five
minutes that was added on to the podcast. So if
you want to hear that some good stuff in there,
I will say there is. And I finished that at
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eleven thirty four. We were supposed to talk to Joe Exotic,
the Tiger King from the Netflix special four years ago,
if you remember, he's in prison, and that was supposed
to have happened the day before at eleven thirty, and
it didn't. And the reason was when he called, we
had to accept the call from a federal correctional facility.
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And because we were an internet based phone system, we're
moving away from that, but it's a big system, and
so when we flip, it'll all flip in one day.
But we're still on the internet based system, which I
had the genius idea to do and turns out to
have been stupid. But anyway, we couldn't make the call work.
So we were scheduled again for that to happen yesterday
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at eleven thirty, and when it didn't happen, I just
kept talking to Marcus. I hung up with Marcus. I
sat there for a second because at that point I've
done three hours of the show and then another thirty
minutes with Marcus, and I have to be more serious
when I'm doing an interview like that, and you know,
I have to. My brain has to process faster, so
it takes more out of me. So I just took
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a breath and it was a minute or so less
than two when Ramon said we've got Joe Czar, We've
got Joe exotic, and I said, he's calling, or you've
got it, and he said no, we got him on
the line, so from prison, and you'll hear them break
in with This is a call from a correctional federal
correctional facility throughout which is pretty awesome. Anyway, we will
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we will share that interview with you which we conducted
last night and played on last night's show. We will
play that at ten thirty this morning. You can hear
the rest of the Marcus Latrell interview on the podcast.
We won't air that here. And it being July fourth, tomorrow,
it is time for the tradition of Happy Birthday America.
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Thanks to Chance McLean Take it away.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
This is a song about America. The greatest country ever born.
It's a song about freedom and liberty and you and
me tis of Thief.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Happy Birthday, America. Happy Birthday to read What Bloom, Happy.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Birthday to Food and Dodge, the.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Chevrolets, Happy Birthday, Happy birth Data Faceball as well, Happy Birthday,
Statue of Liberty.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Liberty America is the home of Uncle Sam and fireworks
and pimnames and bustle cars. It's a place where Mount
Rushmore is on the Mount.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Rushmore things that are fat ass.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
We remember the Alamo and nine to eleven to Costy
Showing Dealer and Harts Biggie both drive in Ruby's apple
Pie's Blue Jeans, and we thank God for the Emancipatient Proclamation,
reinvented the freaking Internet, rock and roll, Barbecue, Chew and Skull, Bandits,
Smoking in the Bandit, the Hulme of Mark Twain, Slam Dunk, Starbucks,
Stars and Stripes, the Constitution, Bill Wrights, Hawaii, an Awesome
National Anthem, Betsy Ross, the super Bowl, Monopoly, pickup trucks,
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the Simpsons, oh Brook, Frisbee Golf, the Golden Gate Bridge Scores,
Harley Davison Motorbikes, yellow Stone Slipping slides that just sketch,
cook and full, the flip flops in that San Diego
chicken thing, and the waders in Milwaukee. We've gotten a
great lakes and a great salt lake full of our
brother and sister Mormons, roller coasters, Hump the Bubba, bubble Gump,
Big League, chewed by name Clyde, Religious freedom, freedom of
the press, free speech, you get beat hipsters, get puckish
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tree huggers. We got gay folks getting married, Coast and Cosen.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
That's just fine. The most murto is the size of pillows.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Elvis Presley, Pixar, Cowboys, Indians, the NRA NSA, THENAACV spring Break,
Packer Jackson every summer, Michael Bay Bow shit it up.
Willie Nelson is a hero state where you can legally
smoke queed, but not by states where you can fi
but not smoke it.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
There's still others where you can't do either, and that's
just fine.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Because America Rudy, fruity, Depression, fruity, build Force, Touch, Duty,
be Begun, Worst Turnity, battle Parties, X ray classes in
the Magic.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Common Books and g I Joe, Thank.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
You, Yvy Seal, South Park Gold Rechievers Franklin, Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln,
post Bell, Cliff w Double artists, double dates, double met gum, doubleheaders,
and double the freedom of anywhere else on this yere planet.
So we may not be perfect, that we're about us
damn close as the kids, and we may make more
serial killers in other countries. Oh, we also make Apple computers,
mostly overseas, but they're still ours, and we send billions
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of dollars to countries that oppress there not as free people.
We often send our troops that don't want to go
into countries that don't want us there for reasons we
don't know, but damn it, they're our troops, so we
have and we'll always have their facts.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
And welcome them home with little bit arms.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
So when people from other countries bitched you from being Americans,
just kill them a funny look and tell him you
can't hear them over the sound of your freedom, and
you can't read their lips because the liberty is blinding you.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
This is America. Our greatest export is bought.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
And all those that want to call ladies literally their
home to get in line. It's awesome here and we
will love you like our own child once you do
your writing.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Come on, America, it's time to believe.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Believe. I believe, I believe, I believe, believe, probably believe in.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
God. Believe that crazy chance McLean, He's so clever. I
look forward to playing that every single year. I really do.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
It.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
It just gets me in the It gets me in
the right mood. It gets me in a good place.
I am looking forward to being back in Houston this weekend.
Not that it's any cooler than Washington, DC, but I've
been on the road to one. It's not good. It's supermong, Ben,
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this is Michael Ferry show. Enjoy it.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
That a love.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Bless today. Discover no guess who turns seventy nine today,
Look our beloved Johnny Lee And I was alone then,
Well what a time? What a time to have been
in Houston. I wasn't. I wasn't eighty seventy eight, seventy nine,
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eighty eighty one, and eighty two, eighty three. What a
time to be in Houston. My goodness alive. That would
have been something special. You know. The interesting thing is
Houston was shot projected onto the national scene for country music,
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and you had Gillies and you had Houston culture, and
the western where side of Houston was really at the
peak with Gillies, with Mickey Gilly and Johnny Lee and
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Texas being talked about in every song in the Houston
energy industry being projected, but the energy industry itself was
actually suffering. The motto at the time was stay Alive.
Toll eighty five. Prices had dropped, by the way, gas
prices at the pump at a four year low right now.
It's interesting because because talking to people in the oil
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and gas business, they're not just killing it the way
some other industries are right now. With the stock market
as high as it is, and pricing has a lot
to do with that. But hopefully that will turn around
because that is such a big part of our economy
and I would like to see those guys do well,
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not at the expense of higher prices at the pump,
but I would like to see those guys do very well.
And that's the hope. We did not last week because
we went down. Remember, Oh, by the way, since we
are focused on July fourth tomorrow and I don't expect
to take calls, we will take calls for the next
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forty five minutes. Seven to one, three nine nine nine,
one thousand, Mom, went you open the phone line? Seven
one three nine nine nine one thousand seven one three
nine nine one thousand. Reminder, the first batch of bumper
stickers is going out. I don't know if they closed
that yesterday or if that will be today or may
even go through tomorrow. I don't know. Belinda Foltz at
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my Printer Houston is handling that for us. But you
can register to get your two free bumper stickers and
your Gringo's gift card at Michael Berryshow dot com. When
you go there, there's a menu and the top box
has a yellow shadow around it and it says get
free bumper sticker or whatever. You can also send me
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an email there. And by the way, for those of
you who kept trying to sign up for our daily
email blast and still weren't getting it, they found the
glitch in the system. The third party provider for that
that we used. Their platform had a glitch. If you
didn't put your first and last name in addition to
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your email, it wasn't sending it to you. But they
have fixed that, and so we had five hundred new
people at it overnight, which was just kind of oh wow. Okay,
so all of those I think are captured and you
should start getting the blast starting today. You can also
send an email to me directly while you're there, including
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if you are interested in learning more about the Palm
Beach trip, which will be at the end of October.
That'll be PB three, the third time we've done that,
And you can buy our show merch while you're there.
Last week we did not get a chance to do
the week in review while you're calling seven three one thousand.
We will correct that now. Oh oh sorry, sorry, sorry,
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courtesy of the greatest executive producer in all the land,
Chattaconi NOMNISI, who is in Hawaii on the Big Island
right now. I'm probably taking a nap. Let's check in
on drunk Mark drunk work. Are you drunk right now?
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I'm dead serious? How can you be drunk? Twenty four
to seven?
Speaker 6 (13:02):
I can walk around hill maybe field?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Did you get my email? Mark? You're becoming tedious? What
do you want to do? Are you going to go
get a driver's last day? Are you going to show
up to court? Are you going back side?
Speaker 5 (13:13):
I did get my I D went and got my D.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
The United States has dramatically entered Israel's war against Iran.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
The American jets bomb three nuclear size to night. I
can report to the world that these strikes were a
spectacular military success present in Trump announcing a ceasefire between
Iran and Israel. Interesting and surprising and disappointing to see
how many people are rooting for that conflict not to
end as it looks like it now will at least
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for some period of time, but rather to escalate, just
so they can call it a failure for Trump.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
It's crazy and to a footchase inside the gallery of
man jumped from the second floor and landed on the
ice room below.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
At some point while being chased by police, the suspect
jumping over this glass barrier and on said the ice
skating rink down below, breaking both of his legs. That
story is so good, you know how you know a
story is good It takes on a life of its own.
News stations will continue to find reasons to go back
to that story, like we have Governor Greg Abbott betoad
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of Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick's biggest priorities, the band on
th HC.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
This is life and death, This is life and death.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Weree this destroys lives. This reaches a whole another level
when Dan Patrick tells you that people are gonna die,
and all I ask is read research that has not
been what's happened with marijuana by and large. But if
it is and it's not, what do you think has
happened with alcohol? Brank, You're first stuck.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Make it.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
It's great, You're up, Frank, go ahead, my ma'am.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Oh, hey, hey, good morning.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Just wanted to reiterate what you said about the Houston
scene in the late seventies, actually the mid seventies. It
was fantastic, and I'll say that urban cowboys.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
He picked it to a t.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
The movie was very indicative of what was going on
around here during that time.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
You had the Astrodome, you had Dirty.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Just a great place somewhere. Terry words, a child who
owns dirties. The Dirty's got to menterview. Everyone listens to
Michael Arry Show. We're in an odd place where good
news is bad news. We keep getting good economic news.
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And as a result of this economic news, the Fed
that does not want to lower rates and help Trump
can say, well, we don't want lower rates because the
economy is already doing so well, and because the economy
is doing so well, if we lower rates, then it'll
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heat up the economic activity and that will lead to inflation.
The ten year note has surged to four point three
six percent because the June jobs report exceeded expectations, and
you have to look at that report in reverse. The
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unemployment rate was expected to go up to four point three,
but instead it went down to four point one. So
by dropping instead of rising, that means less unemployment or
the inverse, more employment, which is considered a good thing.
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And yet what that means is Powell has no reason
to increase the money supply, which is what lowering the
interest rate does. If the Fed doesn't lower the interest rate,
then you've got to crawl into increased economic activity on
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the basis of everything other than the simplest way to
increase economic activity, which is cheaper money. I said this
ten years ago, and nobody wanted to hear it. But
we had artificially low interest rates for a very long
time down in the twos, in the twos and threes
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for a very long time. It was an artificially long
time set at the time, there's somebody's gonna wear this hickey.
Somebody is going to pay for this in the future.
Because I'm sitting on a great interest rate for my
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house a little over two percent. My goal is to
be debt free. But it doesn't make sense to pay
off my house. Why would I The mortgage interest on
my home is one of the last things that you
can get a deduction for, and that's such cheap money.
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If I were to pay off my house or put
that money in the market, or for that matter, put
that money in a ten year note at four point
three six percent. So it makes more sense if you're
in the low twos at an interest rate to put
your money in a ten year note and make money
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on your money that you won't be saving as much
of by paying down your mortgage. So, you got a
lot of people sitting in a house they'd like to move.
They'd either like to downsize because the kids have gone
off to college or upsized because they've added more kids,
the two reasons people move. You got a lot of
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people still sitting on homes.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
Callers.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
I'll get you in just a moment, Please be patient.
I hang tight right there. You got a lot of
people sitting in their home right now who would like
to sell, but they got to go somewhere else. And
here we are in the middle of the summer. People
want to buy. They want to sell their home, and
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more importantly, buy and move into the new home in
the new school district during the summer, so it's not
disruptive to the kids school process. You don't want to
move in October if your kids are in school. It's
very disruptive. So this is season, and yet Powell is
holding that back. Well, once that's unlocked, if those rates
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get down into fours and into the threes, Trump says
one percent, He doesn't mean it. That's just a negotiating tactic.
If you could get those rates down into the low fours,
you would see this economy absolutely explode. It'd be insane,
you would you wouldn't You'd get, uh, what was that
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thing that whiplash? Watching the economic activity, people would be
buying more furniture, buying more cars, buying more trucks, opening
more businesses, engaging in more economic activity. And once those
house once that happens, you're going to see that the
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economic activity increase in a dramatic and that's really going
to reduce unemployment. And then you're going to start hearing
things like we're getting dangerously low in unemployment because you
don't want zero percent unemployment. You need people available to
go to work anyway. That's what's going on. That's what's up.
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As a kids, say, Chris, hold tight, I'm talking to
mac kevin. You're on the Michael Berry Show. Go ahead, sir, Hey,
good morning, Michael.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
First time caller, a longtime listener. He struck a chord
with me this morning. I'm driving down two twenty five
refinery Row, the beautiful sites and smells of our economy
here in the region, which I drive every day, but
I was that it reminded me of Johnny Lee on
his birthday. He used to have a club out there
back in the I got here in nineteen eighty. He
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had a country western bar out there in two twenty
five and everything on the West side. Get the san
it's one Rose Texas night club. Cowboy. I mean, I
lived at you from seventy eight to eighty two eighty three.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I lived that in Houston.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
It was It was absolutely the greatest time. But now Houston,
you can't even find a country in western.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Bar in this town.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
And it's it's a shame because those were those are
some great times. You know, I think when Whitmark came
into office, she's the one to turn the Houston into
the Metropolitans, that is that ain't trying to make it
in New York, because back in those days, Houston was
truly a country, western cowtown. I just wanted to share
that with everybody that wasn't around door those times, because
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it was it was fabulous.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah, well you remember the bullwhep. No, I remember. I
didn't get here until Lady nine.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
Okay, Yeah, there was another club on fifty nine right
there in Sharks Time.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
It's called the Bullwhip.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Matter of fact, that's where I met my wife too.
So forty years later, I'm still I'm still married to
forty years later from a country in western bar You know.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
That's more it's more common than you think. It's more
common than you think. I mean, look, we don't do
arrange marriages. So you got to meet somebody somewhere, and
that's where a lot of people, you know, Bud and Sissy,
that's that's that's how it happened. That was just there
has to be some You either meet him. You either
meet him in school, whether that's high school or college.
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At a job, or at a bar and or at
the gym, I mean those are those are things? Or
at church that is you know. The Indian model is
the ants. The nosy an ties get get busy and
they know that they that this girl over here is
looking to marry and this guy over here. I used
to think it was the worst thing ever. But you're
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not required once they make a match to actually get married.
It just makes introductions and it's on the basis of well,
our family wants this out of life, and your family
wants let's have them meet. I don't know that we
have a better system because there are a lot of
people in this country looking to make a match, to
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have somebody to spend their lives with, and they're not
able to do it. And it's frustrating because you're better
and happier with somebody who's a good match, and we
don't have a good system for that. The country in
Western Barber as good as any. With his finger on
the pulse, The King of Ting continues on The Michael
Berry Show, Jesse Campbell writes, zar today my bride and
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I celebrate fifty five years of marriage. It has not
been easy, but we were always committed to each other
and supporting one another. I was very lucky as I
found a keeper. Well how nice is that that he
share that message, Jesse Campbell. That's just fantastic, just fantastic.
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We spoke to Chris and we've held him on during
a break two breaks ago, and here was that call, Chris,
you are on the Michael Berry.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
Sure, good morning, sir, how are you? I just wanted to, uh,
thank you'll, thank y'all for all you do. I'm one
hundred percent disabled, vent still trying to work in Bullfield
and uh boot boot on the table for my family.
And I'm sorry to interrupt the show, but I was
I had a bad back and I heard mattress Mac
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was giving them away. But I'm currently in route from
the field back to Houston, and I think I missed
a vote on those matthewsists. But I can't say enough
what the show does for us and uh the support
you can cue give us. I'm somebody that camp was
the first group in Iraq and got a chronic postraumatic
stress and everything like that, but went into some councilor
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here a few years ago down at the BA and
drew some other sources and your support for Camp Hope
and your support for veterans, and just that mention of
bullet gas right there, it struck me into heart and
and rum in the bottom of my heart. I just
want to say thank you, because the things you talk
about and the things y'all say and do, it really
it really matters, and it means something to people like
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me out here.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Well, I'm humbled that you would say that, sir, and
we certainly appreciate your service. But as as you and
many others can attest, it's not so simple as landing
in the desert and firing some shots and coming home.
I talk to people all the time who have twisted
backs and knees and lost limbs and mental scars, and
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it is just it's tough, right you can you can
say it better than I can, but it is tough
and it stays with you for the rest of your life. Chris,
I tell you what, if you hold on for just
a moment, I'll see if there are any of those
mattresses left. Just just hang tight right there. So I
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was able to reach Mac during the break. And if
you've ever seen Mac during a you know, after the storms,
and he's got all his salesmen instead of selling furniture.
He's Mac is a madman. If people saw what he
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gets done in the course of a day, it's insanity.
I mean it is, it is. He's a drug addict.
His drug is the endorphin of adrenaline. And you've never
seen a man forget his age? What will leave aside
the fact that he's not thirty years old. He is
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walking at a rapid pace. Remember he's a he's had
a heart attack and he just had open heart surgery,
and he's barking at his team. He doesn't have to
use nice language with them. They know he loves them.
They know he's in the moment and he's doing Get
out of there, Get out out of here. Hey, Channel
two's here.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Tell him.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
I'll be upfront. And he is just true, true, true.
I mean he is a field general making everything happen.
It's incredible. So I got him on the phone. Yes,
mister Barrick. Hey, I got a veteran who spoke to him,
disabled combat veteran Iraq. He's on his way from the
oil patch. He couldn't get off earlier. He's headed that way.
But I don't want him to go all the way
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if it's how many you want me to keep back
for him? Can you keep too, I'll keep too, So
Chris head over there. As for Mac, Ramon will give
you off air. When our call is over, Ramon will
give you the password that I have given you, that
I've given Mac that you will give him when you
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get there, because I like clandestine passwords and espionage and stuff.
So just remember that that code word, but I don't
want to say it on the air. And he has
held you back to mattresses and give him a big
hug for me and time to thank you for doing that.
They gave out over tuned Mattresses this morning already.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
I will thank you, Michael from the bottom of my heart.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Man.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
That may's more than media. You know of real hard
to put my life back together and my kids and
my family and something like this goes a long way.
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
You know, sometimes it's just nice to know that people care.
Doesn't make you less tough, or less strong or less
anything else. I don't care how how tough you are.
Sometimes it's just nice to know that people care. Hold
on just a second and Ramon will talk to you
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all their It's it's interesting. I talk to to people
all the time who are extremely strong people and yet
just a little gesture, not a million dollars, not you know,
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a vacation where just a little gesture, how far it goes.
If you go on to Facebook and you start, you
just pick anybody you know that you haven't seen in
a long time. It's not a content creator on Facebook,
just an average Joe or Jill and you go to
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their page. If they are not a frequent poster, the
one thing you will notice that they post is thank
you for all the birthday wishes. Do you know why
that is? Because most people are going through their day.
They don't have a show named after them. They don't
have people sending them, you know, nice notes all day.
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They don't have their their graphic on. Most people are
just getting up making it happen, and they are unseen, unheard,
but yet they bust their butt. They go to bed.
Nobody's giving them a pat on the back that whole day,
that whole week, that whole month, that whole year, but
they still fall asleep, get back up, do it again,
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and do it again, and do it again. And the
birthday is an artificial construct where people get to say
something nice to you, and it's not weird. People will
take a moment and mark your existence in their life
and a well wish forget. The presence doesn't have to
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be a president, doesn't have to be showing up at
a party. It can be so much as saying happy birthday, brother,
have a great day, love your missia. It can just
be as simple as happy birthday. But that's a day
and a tradition, a cultural ritual we have created that
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on that day, that guy gets to be special, that
girl gets to be the princess today. It's my birthday.
And I'll cry if I want to. It's my birthday.
It's my day. And you know, hopefully someone takes them
for a meal, hopefully someone you know bakes them a cake.
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It's just that moment, of that little gesture, and we
all need it because regardless of how advanced we think
we are, at the end of the day, we're still
blood and guts and eyeballs and ears and emotions and needs,
and it matters. It matters. But you know, I wish,
(32:35):
I wish I had a producer that would start the
music at the right level and bring it up commensurate
with where we were in block and I wouldn't stop
talking to her like an idiot.
It's that time. Time, time, time, luck and load. The
Michael Verie Show is on the air. It feels like
(00:33):
that time. We will of course play it tomorrow, but
many of you will be traveling tomorrow and won't get
to hear the program live and may not go back
to the podcast. A quick programming note. We spoke to
Marcus Aetreel for another thirty five minutes after the show
ended yesterday. I saw from listener emails that it was
(00:58):
a fan favorite of interviews. A lot of folks really
enjoyed that interview. I will tell you I enjoyed it.
I start my day every day with a text from
Marcus and he says, good morning Radio, which is what
he calls me. And we will go back and forth
with some text messages, but we don't get into how
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he became famous. In that history. We talk about our kids,
and our wives, and our health and a book we've
read or a movie we've seen. It was nice for
me to get him to open up about some things
that I had never talked to him about, including the
rescue in the village and some of the details that
(01:43):
of course couldn't be properly portrayed in a movie. That's
trying to stay two hours and still be true to
what happened. But anyway, we spoke for another thirty five
minutes that was added on to the podcast. So if
you want to hear that some good stuff in there,
I will say there is. And I finished that at
(02:04):
eleven thirty four. We were supposed to talk to Joe Exotic,
the Tiger King from the Netflix special four years ago,
if you remember, he's in prison, and that was supposed
to have happened the day before at eleven thirty, and
it didn't. And the reason was when he called, we
had to accept the call from a federal correctional facility.
(02:29):
And because we were an internet based phone system, we're
moving away from that, but it's a big system, and
so when we flip, it'll all flip in one day.
But we're still on the internet based system, which I
had the genius idea to do and turns out to
have been stupid. But anyway, we couldn't make the call work.
So we were scheduled again for that to happen yesterday
(02:50):
at eleven thirty, and when it didn't happen, I just
kept talking to Marcus. I hung up with Marcus. I
sat there for a second because at that point I've
done three hours of the show and then another thirty
minutes with Marcus, and I have to be more serious
when I'm doing an interview like that, and you know,
I have to. My brain has to process faster, so
it takes more out of me. So I just took
(03:10):
a breath and it was a minute or so less
than two when Ramon said we've got Joe Czar, We've
got Joe exotic, and I said, he's calling, or you've
got it, and he said no, we got him on
the line, so from prison, and you'll hear them break
in with This is a call from a correctional federal
correctional facility throughout which is pretty awesome. Anyway, we will
(03:35):
we will share that interview with you which we conducted
last night and played on last night's show. We will
play that at ten thirty this morning. You can hear
the rest of the Marcus Latrell interview on the podcast.
We won't air that here. And it being July fourth, tomorrow,
it is time for the tradition of Happy Birthday America.
(04:00):
Thanks to Chance McLean Take it away.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
This is a song about America. The greatest country ever born.
It's a song about freedom and liberty and you and
me tis of Thief.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Happy Birthday, America. Happy Birthday to read What Bloom, Happy.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Birthday to Food and Dodge, the.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Chevrolets, Happy Birthday, Happy birth Data Faceball as well, Happy Birthday,
Statue of Liberty.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Liberty America is the home of Uncle Sam and fireworks
and pimnames and bustle cars. It's a place where Mount
Rushmore is on the Mount.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Rushmore things that are fat ass.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
We remember the Alamo and nine to eleven to Costy
Showing Dealer and Harts Biggie both drive in Ruby's apple
Pie's Blue Jeans, and we thank God for the Emancipatient Proclamation,
reinvented the freaking Internet, rock and roll, Barbecue, Chew and Skull, Bandits,
Smoking in the Bandit, the Hulme of Mark Twain, Slam Dunk, Starbucks,
Stars and Stripes, the Constitution, Bill Wrights, Hawaii, an Awesome
National Anthem, Betsy Ross, the super Bowl, Monopoly, pickup trucks,
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the Simpsons, oh Brook, Frisbee Golf, the Golden Gate Bridge Scores,
Harley Davison Motorbikes, yellow Stone Slipping slides that just sketch,
cook and full, the flip flops in that San Diego
chicken thing, and the waders in Milwaukee. We've gotten a
great lakes and a great salt lake full of our
brother and sister Mormons, roller coasters, Hump the Bubba, bubble Gump,
Big League, chewed by name Clyde, Religious freedom, freedom of
the press, free speech, you get beat hipsters, get puckish
(05:43):
tree huggers. We got gay folks getting married, Coast and Cosen.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
That's just fine. The most murto is the size of pillows.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Elvis Presley, Pixar, Cowboys, Indians, the NRA NSA, THENAACV spring Break,
Packer Jackson every summer, Michael Bay Bow shit it up.
Willie Nelson is a hero state where you can legally
smoke queed, but not by states where you can fi
but not smoke it.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
There's still others where you can't do either, and that's
just fine.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Because America Rudy, fruity, Depression, fruity, build Force, Touch, Duty,
be Begun, Worst Turnity, battle Parties, X ray classes in
the Magic.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Common Books and g I Joe, Thank.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
You, Yvy Seal, South Park Gold Rechievers Franklin, Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln,
post Bell, Cliff w Double artists, double dates, double met gum, doubleheaders,
and double the freedom of anywhere else on this yere planet.
So we may not be perfect, that we're about us
damn close as the kids, and we may make more
serial killers in other countries. Oh, we also make Apple computers,
mostly overseas, but they're still ours, and we send billions
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of dollars to countries that oppress there not as free people.
We often send our troops that don't want to go
into countries that don't want us there for reasons we
don't know, but damn it, they're our troops, so we
have and we'll always have their facts.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
And welcome them home with little bit arms.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
So when people from other countries bitched you from being Americans,
just kill them a funny look and tell him you
can't hear them over the sound of your freedom, and
you can't read their lips because the liberty is blinding you.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
This is America. Our greatest export is bought.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
And all those that want to call ladies literally their
home to get in line. It's awesome here and we
will love you like our own child once you do
your writing.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Come on, America, it's time to believe.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Believe. I believe, I believe, I believe, believe, probably believe in.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
God. Believe that crazy chance McLean, He's so clever. I
look forward to playing that every single year. I really do.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
It.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
It just gets me in the It gets me in
the right mood. It gets me in a good place.
I am looking forward to being back in Houston this weekend.
Not that it's any cooler than Washington, DC, but I've
been on the road to one. It's not good. It's supermong, Ben,
(08:20):
this is Michael Ferry show. Enjoy it.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
That a love.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Bless today. Discover no guess who turns seventy nine today,
Look our beloved Johnny Lee And I was alone then,
Well what a time? What a time to have been
in Houston. I wasn't. I wasn't eighty seventy eight, seventy nine,
(08:55):
eighty eighty one, and eighty two, eighty three. What a
time to be in Houston. My goodness alive. That would
have been something special. You know. The interesting thing is
Houston was shot projected onto the national scene for country music,
(09:18):
and you had Gillies and you had Houston culture, and
the western where side of Houston was really at the
peak with Gillies, with Mickey Gilly and Johnny Lee and
(09:39):
Texas being talked about in every song in the Houston
energy industry being projected, but the energy industry itself was
actually suffering. The motto at the time was stay Alive.
Toll eighty five. Prices had dropped, by the way, gas
prices at the pump at a four year low right now.
It's interesting because because talking to people in the oil
(10:02):
and gas business, they're not just killing it the way
some other industries are right now. With the stock market
as high as it is, and pricing has a lot
to do with that. But hopefully that will turn around
because that is such a big part of our economy
and I would like to see those guys do well,
(10:25):
not at the expense of higher prices at the pump,
but I would like to see those guys do very well.
And that's the hope. We did not last week because
we went down. Remember, Oh, by the way, since we
are focused on July fourth tomorrow and I don't expect
to take calls, we will take calls for the next
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forty five minutes. Seven to one, three nine nine nine,
one thousand, Mom, went you open the phone line? Seven
one three nine nine nine one thousand seven one three
nine nine one thousand. Reminder, the first batch of bumper
stickers is going out. I don't know if they closed
that yesterday or if that will be today or may
even go through tomorrow. I don't know. Belinda Foltz at
(11:07):
my Printer Houston is handling that for us. But you
can register to get your two free bumper stickers and
your Gringo's gift card at Michael Berryshow dot com. When
you go there, there's a menu and the top box
has a yellow shadow around it and it says get
free bumper sticker or whatever. You can also send me
(11:29):
an email there. And by the way, for those of
you who kept trying to sign up for our daily
email blast and still weren't getting it, they found the
glitch in the system. The third party provider for that
that we used. Their platform had a glitch. If you
didn't put your first and last name in addition to
(11:49):
your email, it wasn't sending it to you. But they
have fixed that, and so we had five hundred new
people at it overnight, which was just kind of oh wow. Okay,
so all of those I think are captured and you
should start getting the blast starting today. You can also
send an email to me directly while you're there, including
(12:10):
if you are interested in learning more about the Palm
Beach trip, which will be at the end of October.
That'll be PB three, the third time we've done that,
And you can buy our show merch while you're there.
Last week we did not get a chance to do
the week in review while you're calling seven three one thousand.
We will correct that now. Oh oh sorry, sorry, sorry,
(12:37):
courtesy of the greatest executive producer in all the land,
Chattaconi NOMNISI, who is in Hawaii on the Big Island
right now. I'm probably taking a nap. Let's check in
on drunk Mark drunk work. Are you drunk right now?
(12:58):
I'm dead serious? How can you be drunk? Twenty four
to seven?
Speaker 6 (13:02):
I can walk around hill maybe field?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Did you get my email? Mark? You're becoming tedious? What
do you want to do? Are you going to go
get a driver's last day? Are you going to show
up to court? Are you going back side?
Speaker 5 (13:13):
I did get my I D went and got my D.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
The United States has dramatically entered Israel's war against Iran.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
The American jets bomb three nuclear size to night. I
can report to the world that these strikes were a
spectacular military success present in Trump announcing a ceasefire between
Iran and Israel. Interesting and surprising and disappointing to see
how many people are rooting for that conflict not to
end as it looks like it now will at least
(13:41):
for some period of time, but rather to escalate, just
so they can call it a failure for Trump.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
It's crazy and to a footchase inside the gallery of
man jumped from the second floor and landed on the
ice room below.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
At some point while being chased by police, the suspect
jumping over this glass barrier and on said the ice
skating rink down below, breaking both of his legs. That
story is so good, you know how you know a
story is good It takes on a life of its own.
News stations will continue to find reasons to go back
to that story, like we have Governor Greg Abbott betoad
(14:15):
of Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick's biggest priorities, the band on
th HC.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
This is life and death, This is life and death.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Weree this destroys lives. This reaches a whole another level
when Dan Patrick tells you that people are gonna die,
and all I ask is read research that has not
been what's happened with marijuana by and large. But if
it is and it's not, what do you think has
happened with alcohol? Brank, You're first stuck.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Make it.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
It's great, You're up, Frank, go ahead, my ma'am.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Oh, hey, hey, good morning.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Just wanted to reiterate what you said about the Houston
scene in the late seventies, actually the mid seventies. It
was fantastic, and I'll say that urban cowboys.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
He picked it to a t.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
The movie was very indicative of what was going on
around here during that time.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
You had the Astrodome, you had Dirty.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Just a great place somewhere. Terry words, a child who
owns dirties. The Dirty's got to menterview. Everyone listens to
Michael Arry Show. We're in an odd place where good
news is bad news. We keep getting good economic news.
(16:03):
And as a result of this economic news, the Fed
that does not want to lower rates and help Trump
can say, well, we don't want lower rates because the
economy is already doing so well, and because the economy
is doing so well, if we lower rates, then it'll
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heat up the economic activity and that will lead to inflation.
The ten year note has surged to four point three
six percent because the June jobs report exceeded expectations, and
you have to look at that report in reverse. The
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unemployment rate was expected to go up to four point three,
but instead it went down to four point one. So
by dropping instead of rising, that means less unemployment or
the inverse, more employment, which is considered a good thing.
(17:09):
And yet what that means is Powell has no reason
to increase the money supply, which is what lowering the
interest rate does. If the Fed doesn't lower the interest rate,
then you've got to crawl into increased economic activity on
(17:29):
the basis of everything other than the simplest way to
increase economic activity, which is cheaper money. I said this
ten years ago, and nobody wanted to hear it. But
we had artificially low interest rates for a very long
time down in the twos, in the twos and threes
(17:54):
for a very long time. It was an artificially long
time set at the time, there's somebody's gonna wear this hickey.
Somebody is going to pay for this in the future.
Because I'm sitting on a great interest rate for my
(18:14):
house a little over two percent. My goal is to
be debt free. But it doesn't make sense to pay
off my house. Why would I The mortgage interest on
my home is one of the last things that you
can get a deduction for, and that's such cheap money.
(18:37):
If I were to pay off my house or put
that money in the market, or for that matter, put
that money in a ten year note at four point
three six percent. So it makes more sense if you're
in the low twos at an interest rate to put
your money in a ten year note and make money
(19:00):
on your money that you won't be saving as much
of by paying down your mortgage. So, you got a
lot of people sitting in a house they'd like to move.
They'd either like to downsize because the kids have gone
off to college or upsized because they've added more kids,
the two reasons people move. You got a lot of
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people still sitting on homes.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
Callers.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
I'll get you in just a moment, Please be patient.
I hang tight right there. You got a lot of
people sitting in their home right now who would like
to sell, but they got to go somewhere else. And
here we are in the middle of the summer. People
want to buy. They want to sell their home, and
(19:44):
more importantly, buy and move into the new home in
the new school district during the summer, so it's not
disruptive to the kids school process. You don't want to
move in October if your kids are in school. It's
very disruptive. So this is season, and yet Powell is
holding that back. Well, once that's unlocked, if those rates
(20:07):
get down into fours and into the threes, Trump says
one percent, He doesn't mean it. That's just a negotiating tactic.
If you could get those rates down into the low fours,
you would see this economy absolutely explode. It'd be insane,
you would you wouldn't You'd get, uh, what was that
(20:31):
thing that whiplash? Watching the economic activity, people would be
buying more furniture, buying more cars, buying more trucks, opening
more businesses, engaging in more economic activity. And once those
house once that happens, you're going to see that the
(20:52):
economic activity increase in a dramatic and that's really going
to reduce unemployment. And then you're going to start hearing
things like we're getting dangerously low in unemployment because you
don't want zero percent unemployment. You need people available to
go to work anyway. That's what's going on. That's what's up.
(21:12):
As a kids, say, Chris, hold tight, I'm talking to
mac kevin. You're on the Michael Berry Show. Go ahead, sir, Hey,
good morning, Michael.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
First time caller, a longtime listener. He struck a chord
with me this morning. I'm driving down two twenty five
refinery Row, the beautiful sites and smells of our economy
here in the region, which I drive every day, but
I was that it reminded me of Johnny Lee on
his birthday. He used to have a club out there
back in the I got here in nineteen eighty. He
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had a country western bar out there in two twenty
five and everything on the West side. Get the san
it's one Rose Texas night club. Cowboy. I mean, I
lived at you from seventy eight to eighty two eighty three.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I lived that in Houston.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
It was It was absolutely the greatest time. But now Houston,
you can't even find a country in western.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Bar in this town.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
And it's it's a shame because those were those are
some great times. You know, I think when Whitmark came
into office, she's the one to turn the Houston into
the Metropolitans, that is that ain't trying to make it
in New York, because back in those days, Houston was
truly a country, western cowtown. I just wanted to share
that with everybody that wasn't around door those times, because
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it was it was fabulous.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah, well you remember the bullwhep. No, I remember. I
didn't get here until Lady nine.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
Okay, Yeah, there was another club on fifty nine right
there in Sharks Time.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
It's called the Bullwhip.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Matter of fact, that's where I met my wife too.
So forty years later, I'm still I'm still married to
forty years later from a country in western bar You know.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
That's more it's more common than you think. It's more
common than you think. I mean, look, we don't do
arrange marriages. So you got to meet somebody somewhere, and
that's where a lot of people, you know, Bud and Sissy,
that's that's that's how it happened. That was just there
has to be some You either meet him. You either
meet him in school, whether that's high school or college.
(23:17):
At a job, or at a bar and or at
the gym, I mean those are those are things? Or
at church that is you know. The Indian model is
the ants. The nosy an ties get get busy and
they know that they that this girl over here is
looking to marry and this guy over here. I used
to think it was the worst thing ever. But you're
(23:38):
not required once they make a match to actually get married.
It just makes introductions and it's on the basis of well,
our family wants this out of life, and your family
wants let's have them meet. I don't know that we
have a better system because there are a lot of
people in this country looking to make a match, to
(23:59):
have somebody to spend their lives with, and they're not
able to do it. And it's frustrating because you're better
and happier with somebody who's a good match, and we
don't have a good system for that. The country in
Western Barber as good as any. With his finger on
the pulse, The King of Ting continues on The Michael
Berry Show, Jesse Campbell writes, zar today my bride and
(24:24):
I celebrate fifty five years of marriage. It has not
been easy, but we were always committed to each other
and supporting one another. I was very lucky as I
found a keeper. Well how nice is that that he
share that message, Jesse Campbell. That's just fantastic, just fantastic.
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We spoke to Chris and we've held him on during
a break two breaks ago, and here was that call, Chris,
you are on the Michael Berry.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
Sure, good morning, sir, how are you? I just wanted to, uh,
thank you'll, thank y'all for all you do. I'm one
hundred percent disabled, vent still trying to work in Bullfield
and uh boot boot on the table for my family.
And I'm sorry to interrupt the show, but I was
I had a bad back and I heard mattress Mac
(25:21):
was giving them away. But I'm currently in route from
the field back to Houston, and I think I missed
a vote on those matthewsists. But I can't say enough
what the show does for us and uh the support
you can cue give us. I'm somebody that camp was
the first group in Iraq and got a chronic postraumatic
stress and everything like that, but went into some councilor
(25:42):
here a few years ago down at the BA and
drew some other sources and your support for Camp Hope
and your support for veterans, and just that mention of
bullet gas right there, it struck me into heart and
and rum in the bottom of my heart. I just
want to say thank you, because the things you talk
about and the things y'all say and do, it really
it really matters, and it means something to people like
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me out here.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Well, I'm humbled that you would say that, sir, and
we certainly appreciate your service. But as as you and
many others can attest, it's not so simple as landing
in the desert and firing some shots and coming home.
I talk to people all the time who have twisted
backs and knees and lost limbs and mental scars, and
(26:31):
it is just it's tough, right you can you can
say it better than I can, but it is tough
and it stays with you for the rest of your life. Chris,
I tell you what, if you hold on for just
a moment, I'll see if there are any of those
mattresses left. Just just hang tight right there. So I
(26:51):
was able to reach Mac during the break. And if
you've ever seen Mac during a you know, after the storms,
and he's got all his salesmen instead of selling furniture.
He's Mac is a madman. If people saw what he
(27:13):
gets done in the course of a day, it's insanity.
I mean it is, it is. He's a drug addict.
His drug is the endorphin of adrenaline. And you've never
seen a man forget his age? What will leave aside
the fact that he's not thirty years old. He is
(27:35):
walking at a rapid pace. Remember he's a he's had
a heart attack and he just had open heart surgery,
and he's barking at his team. He doesn't have to
use nice language with them. They know he loves them.
They know he's in the moment and he's doing Get
out of there, Get out out of here. Hey, Channel
two's here.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Tell him.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
I'll be upfront. And he is just true, true, true.
I mean he is a field general making everything happen.
It's incredible. So I got him on the phone. Yes,
mister Barrick. Hey, I got a veteran who spoke to him,
disabled combat veteran Iraq. He's on his way from the
oil patch. He couldn't get off earlier. He's headed that way.
But I don't want him to go all the way
(28:16):
if it's how many you want me to keep back
for him? Can you keep too, I'll keep too, So
Chris head over there. As for Mac, Ramon will give
you off air. When our call is over, Ramon will
give you the password that I have given you, that
I've given Mac that you will give him when you
(28:37):
get there, because I like clandestine passwords and espionage and stuff.
So just remember that that code word, but I don't
want to say it on the air. And he has
held you back to mattresses and give him a big
hug for me and time to thank you for doing that.
They gave out over tuned Mattresses this morning already.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
I will thank you, Michael from the bottom of my heart.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Man.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
That may's more than media. You know of real hard
to put my life back together and my kids and
my family and something like this goes a long way.
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
You know, sometimes it's just nice to know that people care.
Doesn't make you less tough, or less strong or less
anything else. I don't care how how tough you are.
Sometimes it's just nice to know that people care. Hold
on just a second and Ramon will talk to you
(29:31):
all their It's it's interesting. I talk to to people
all the time who are extremely strong people and yet
just a little gesture, not a million dollars, not you know,
(29:52):
a vacation where just a little gesture, how far it goes.
If you go on to Facebook and you start, you
just pick anybody you know that you haven't seen in
a long time. It's not a content creator on Facebook,
just an average Joe or Jill and you go to
(30:13):
their page. If they are not a frequent poster, the
one thing you will notice that they post is thank
you for all the birthday wishes. Do you know why
that is? Because most people are going through their day.
They don't have a show named after them. They don't
have people sending them, you know, nice notes all day.
(30:36):
They don't have their their graphic on. Most people are
just getting up making it happen, and they are unseen, unheard,
but yet they bust their butt. They go to bed.
Nobody's giving them a pat on the back that whole day,
that whole week, that whole month, that whole year, but
they still fall asleep, get back up, do it again,
(31:00):
and do it again, and do it again. And the
birthday is an artificial construct where people get to say
something nice to you, and it's not weird. People will
take a moment and mark your existence in their life
and a well wish forget. The presence doesn't have to
(31:23):
be a president, doesn't have to be showing up at
a party. It can be so much as saying happy birthday, brother,
have a great day, love your missia. It can just
be as simple as happy birthday. But that's a day
and a tradition, a cultural ritual we have created that
(31:47):
on that day, that guy gets to be special, that
girl gets to be the princess today. It's my birthday.
And I'll cry if I want to. It's my birthday.
It's my day. And you know, hopefully someone takes them
for a meal, hopefully someone you know bakes them a cake.
(32:08):
It's just that moment, of that little gesture, and we
all need it because regardless of how advanced we think
we are, at the end of the day, we're still
blood and guts and eyeballs and ears and emotions and needs,
and it matters. It matters. But you know, I wish,
(32:35):
I wish I had a producer that would start the
music at the right level and bring it up commensurate
with where we were in block and I wouldn't stop
talking to her like an idiot.
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