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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's that time time time, time, Luck and load. The
Michael Varie Show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
A sign Blok chop, a media ron gile brother blood trop.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
A media rule again, glood truck, a media right Oma
right again. Hulk Hogan has done.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
You gotta say, it's an interesting life. To remain relevant
in what I would call the noisy American pop culture
environment is a hard thing to do, and Hulk Hogan.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Did that for decades.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
The ups, the damns, there's a pretty good chance you
remember some of the downs. I'll be out at dinner
in some public figure's name will come up, and I
say public figure, I don't just mean elected officials, could
be a movie star, an athlete, whatever. And I'm always amazed,
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how with which facility, with what comfort with what, Not
even thinking about it, someone will say of a certain problem,
hey got arrested her, Oh he got in trouble, or
he got exposed, or he had a video, yeah I
remember he got the and they will they would.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Just dismiss that person as if.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
As if it was a hamburger they were eating, and
they'd put you know, the restaurant had put pickles when
they weren't supposed to just throw it on the floor.
And I realized I'm not n because I'm sure I've
done it a million times myself. I realize that when
you become a public figure, you're no longer a human being.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
You're a product.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
And when you become a product, then just like those
obnoxious wine tasting people, they can, you know, take a
sip and after they've sniffed it and oh, I can't
stand that. Sorry if I've triggered your mesophonia. But and
they'll go no, no, to fruity, to too fruit forward,
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not a good nose, bad bouquet, not enough tannings this one,
and and people will discuss a person's career. I'll prove
my point. David Hasselhoff, free associate for me. David Hasselhoff.
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Now you may say, oh, I was eating that burner
off the floor, run of the toilet.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
It was.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
It was, indeed, And the only reason you know that
is his bratty little daughter filmed it and posted it.
I would make sure she never saw another penny for
me if that was my kid, My goodness alive, what
a brat she was. And her answer was I was
just trying to help him because he had a problem.
That's not how you help somebody. Or you may think, oh, yeah,
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I remember he is all was that stupid Germany thing
he was recording songs in Germany? Okay, The reality is
David Hasselhoff had, and I know, David Hasselhoff apologies by
all measures, a very successful career. There was a period
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of time where David Hasselhoff was probably one of the
ten most identifiable Americans, and then when his relevance dropped,
he went to Germany where he had very quirky popularity
in Germany as a singer, and we didn't really know
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where to process that. I kind of put it in
the same category if I were to say, hey, did
you ever watch.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Chips, because I did?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Remember Chips California Highway Patrol duom dum, dunk dum. Every
dude my age knows the name of Punch eric O
Strada and how cool they were driving along on the
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Pacific Coast Highway in California, solving.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Crimes and protecting the public and being cool.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
And then you go, you follow up naturally free association
again is oh yeah, didn't he end up doing novellas
in Mexico. That's sad by that measure, don't we all
have a tinge of sad in us?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Whatever happened Old John Bishop from high school? Remember he
was such a good football player. Yeah, I heard he's
driving a forklift for the pepsi plant over in East Bernard.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Oh really? Yeah? Wow?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Whatever happened Old Reggie Night, our star basketball player?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Did he make it to the pros?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
No?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
He started.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
He went to McNeice, blew his knee out, and uh,
somebody said, what is he doing? He tried welding, but
he could. He became a pipefitter, and then something happened.
His wife got cancer and died and lost his mind.
Somebody said, he's living in a trailer, and uh, with
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his mom moved back in with Oh. Man, if we're
completely honest, if we're completely not. Everybody is as introspective
as the next guy. But if you're an introspective person,
you have to admit you're guilty of it, because I am,
and you have to admit that we do things like
this to feel better about ourselves. It's schodenfreud or Shoden fraud,
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however you choose to pronounce it. Watching someone else stumble
makes us feel better about ourselves. And I suggest that
this is the emotion, the sentiment, the driving force behind
so much of what causes the media and establishment Republicans,
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not Democrats, Republicans to hate Donald Trump. It's what causes
the Chenese and the Bushes and the Romneys to hate
Trump because Trump is beloved by the voters who might
have won their vote but never won their heart.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
All that because hul covid go, let me move to receive.
All right, listen for a dial tone.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
It sounds like this that Michael Berry Joe Captne indicates
everything is right in.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
For your call.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
We get so accustomed to things being the way they
are that we forget we live in such an interesting time.
I want you to stop for a moment, and I
want you to imagine it's twenty sixteen. Donald Trump is
running for president, and he's never been elected to an
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office before. He's never run for office before. We got
to go back to Dwight Eisenhower in nineteen fifty two
to find a phenomenon like this. Eisenhower had been the
leader of the Allied Forces during World War II. He
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is riding high off of the glory of being the
leader of the military that wins World War two. Emotions
are high. World War two concludes, Truman, who had been
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FDR's vice president, ascends to the presidency after FDR dies.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
He'd been ill for quite some time.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
They had hidden that from the public, very very akin
to the Biden illness. So Truman runs in forty eight
and he runs against Dewey, and now the famous headline
Dewey defeats Truman because I think it was a Chicago
Tribune back in those days. Obviously it's pre internet, pre
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cell phone. Based on the early returns and the best
information they could get, it looked like Truman. Look sorry,
it looks like Dowey's gonna win.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Well.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Truman, who by the way, was not above graft and corruption,
and there was grafting corruption in the forty eight election.
And Truman had come to power in Missouri as the
flunky step and fetch it for the Pendergast family, which
was an absolute criminal enterprise in Missouri. You know, the
buck stops here, Harry S. Truman is the S stands
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for nothing. But he's a great guy. That's not true.
Truman was a functionary. Truman was like the guy who
is the CPA for the mafia, and he keeps the front.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
You know, he makes the purchases.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
He's uh, uh, what's is it? Patrick Bateman? What's the
guy's name in Ozark? Ramon, Yeah, he's like Patrick Bateman
in Ozark. At the end of the day, he is
committing crimes. He is part of the criminal enterprise. So true.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
What Jason Bateman? Thank you his cousin Patrick? Okay, yeah,
all right, ye see you're thinking of Okay, So, so Truman.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Wins in forty eight, so fifty two, we've had Democrats
in control ever since FDR defeats Hoover in what thirty two,
So you've had four FDR elections and then Truman. Democrats
have had a lock on the White House. Eisenhower's going
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to run, and Eisenhower could have run for either party,
and there was much discussion. Both parties were wooing him.
Eisenhower had not made a lot of public statements on politics,
and he was a celebrity in the sense, you know,
in the state of Texas, we had a similar phenomenon
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where Nolan Ryan considered running and both parties wanted him,
and he could have run in one and either.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Because of the celebrity status.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
I think Schwarzenegger could have won in California as a Republican,
which he did, or as a Democrat. Jesse Ventura, who
ran as an independent in Minnesota. I suspect he could
have run in any party and won. And by the way,
I think that is also true of Trump. Trump's celebrity
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and his gravitas, and there is something about Trump that
people gravitate to and always have. I mean, it's celebrity Apprentice,
it's the movies. It's Macaulay Culkin, his character in Home
Alone or whatever that was. It's him on he Haw,
it's him on magazine covers, it's him on Oprah Show.
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There is something about Trump that people love. But I
want you to imagine. So Trump is running. He's never
run before, first time this has been done since Eisenhower.
Wer a guy who's never run a campaign. And by
the way, the sixteen election. I can go through some
years that the Republican stable of candidates was weak and
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you'd say, well, maybe.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
He'd win in that year.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
That's arguably the strongest slate of candidates ever to run
for president in either party. Certainly certainly in the last
one hundred and twenty five years. I'm comfortable saying that
you had seventeen candidates, you could argue that eight of
those could have won at different points in American history,
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with the money they could raise, the celebrity status they had,
the name id, they had, the organization, they had, the
early polling. And Trump comes out of nowhere and he
doesn't just win, he wipes the field. Ted Cruz won
a lot of Super Tuesday states. John Kasik hung around
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longer than one would expect. Marco did better than maybe
folks would expect. Scott Walker was out early. I really
thought he was going to be a tough candidate. He'd
won three elections in four years.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
He was a reformer, he was the middle of the
road guy. But you go back.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
And you think about, here comes Trump out of nowhere,
and he wins, and he wins with really the Reform
Party platform more of an isolationism, a more common sense
foreign policy, we're not going to get ourselves in wars,
a little more isolation a little more protectionist, much more populist.
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Those are words that we bandy about in a pejorative sense,
but most Americans are in that position. America first, if
you will, and here is Trump who wins this election.
The vice chair of the DNC at the time is
Tulsa Gabbard and he is committed to Bernie Sanders as
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the presidential candidate. Not committed, but she's that's who she
thinks should win. And she herself would run for president
in twenty as a Democrat.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
There's no question she was a Democrat. She was certainly
not a republic And.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Then you got this left wing anti corporation environmental lawyer
who is a scion of the most royal American family,
the Kennedys.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Fast forward to twenty twenty five. Robert F.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Kennedy is a critical component of the Trump administration's attack
on big Pharma and trying to fix our food supply,
and Toolsey Gabbard is bringing down the Democrat deep state
machine that attacked criminally Donald Trump in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
This is the Michael Berry Show show. So the afore
mentioned Toolsey Gabbard.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Folks, I don't remember anything like this. This is Abraham
Lincoln and Doris Kern Goodwin's book Team of Rivals, where
Lincoln takes the folks who ran against him for president
and puts them all into cabinet positions in the modern era.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
This is.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Incredible Toolsey gabbered. This beautiful woman from Hawaii who serves
in the military, who's very, very proud of her Hawaiian heritage,
serves in Congress as a Democrat. The Democrats foced her
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to vice chair of the Democrat Party. Now realistic, why
did they do that? Because she is a.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Non white woman.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
And she can conjugate her b verbs and doesn't scream
about whitey. So they put a non white woman in
the second in command of this of the national Party
because it's all about diversity, diversity, diversity. But you can't
put Sheila Jackson Lee there, or now Jasmine Crockett or
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Maxine Waters or whatever else. So they can only go
so far with the diversity thing. And she would she
would fit the bill because she's very bright. So Polsy
Gabberd is vice chair of the DNC. In the election
where Hillary was chosen by the DNC and Bernie Sanders
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runs and Bernie wasn't, they cleared the field of Biden.
Obama cleared Biden out tells Biden, you can't run. Unbo
just died. Bless your heart, you're suffering and you know
you can't run. This is Hillary's turn. We'll run you
in twenty when you're old and demented, okay, and you
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can spend four years self dealing. We'll set up some
meetings with the Chinese, and you can get rich because
you've always really wanted to be rich, and you can
run all the money through Hunter. Oh.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Okay, and Tulsi Gabbard blows the whistle.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
That was the year that I think it really Twenty
sixteen will go back fifty years from now. I won't
be here, but they will look back and say that
was a major, major year. And I think it'll be
as big as the Great Depression in the early thirties,
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the Civil War in the early eighteen sixties. It will
go down in history as this time when America underwent
a tectonic change and the teams sort of they changed
their composition. There's a very good chance that you were
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a Democrat twenty or thirty or forty years ago. It's
a very good chance that you had different views on
domestic and international affairs. It's a very good chance that
people that you respected, who might have been a Democrat
or Republican, you have now come to learn things about
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that have completely changed your opinion, and you now realize
that person is a bad person. I receive emails from people,
for instance, who will tell me that they weren't the
biggest Hillary fan, but they felt she was dishonored by
the press and the public and Republicans as first lady
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because she dared be a strong woman as a first
lady and a professional and they came to learn that
that was all spin, that actually she was a devil. Well,
here we are Toolsey Gabber, the person who blew the
whistle on the fact that the Democrat Party was wiring
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it so that Bernie couldn't win and only Hillary could,
which is in violation of their charter. That's not their
jobs to pick winners and losers, and they were doing
it illegally. That's when WikiLeaks did the big dump. Remember
Julian Assange, And you were supposed to believe that Julian
Assange was an evil person because he was going in
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and making things transparent and open for the public that
the public wasn't supposed to know about. And this was
terrible and we were all going to die. Except okay,
let's get over the fact that he did that. What's
the content of the messages? Oh no, no, no, don't look
at that, and the world changed and what was done
to Trump changed the world. And then the twenty twenty election,
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and then January sixth, and then the indictments and the prosecution,
the persecution, the fake cases, the felony convictions, and here
we are. It's twenty twenty five. The Director of National Intelligence,
former DNC Vice Chairman Tulsea Gabbert said something many people
in DC and the media have forgotten, and.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
This is what we have to get back to.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
What they have for bre Heerdon is that they are
accountable to the American people.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
We're here today because the American people deserve the truth,
they deserve accountability, and they deserve justice. The records that
we released on Friday that were ODE and I records,
Senator Chuck Grassley's release on Monday of what is known
as the Clinton which was an appendix to the Department
of Justice Office of Inspector General's twenty eighteen report, as
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well as the House Intelligence Committee's Oversight Majority Oversight report
that we're releasing today, all come back to and confirm
the same report. There was a gross politicization manipulation of
intelligence by the Obama administration intended to delegitimize President Trump
even before he was inaugurated, ultimately usurping the will of
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the American people.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
The difference between Tulsey Gabbard and Donald Trump is the
difference between William Faulkner and Ernest Hemingway. Faulkner wrote in beautiful, langorous, rolling,
eloquent Southern sentences. Hemingway spoke in staccato bam bam bam.
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Him Ingway was punchy sentences that were very direct. And
so it's sort of like the Bible verse Jesus wept,
so shortest verse in the Bible, but as powerful as
John three point sixteen. Because the concept of the Son
of God weeping, you didn't need to adorn it. You
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didn't need to describe the tears. You didn't need to
describe his eyes. You didn't need to That was it.
Those two words so very powerful. What Toolsy Gabbered is
saying right here is that the referee is playing for
the other side is that the emperor has no clothes.
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It's that evil is a foot in the country, and
it is so powerful and so devilish that it threatens
to destroy America altogether a lot of big words to
say that but she said it. This is as important
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as anything we are ever going to cover on this show,
and more important than ninety nine point nine percent of it.
So much of political talk is showmanship and gamesmanship and sport.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
This right here, this matters the Michael Berry Show, Michael
Berry Show.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
We all have our struggles in life, and we all
have things about our work that we don't enjoy, whether
we work at home or out in the workforce. When
I got the news just as we were going off
the air this morning at eleven o'clock that Hulk Hogan
had died, I said to Ramon, because I had to
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hear it from Jim Mudd, why didn't you tell me
that Hulk Hogan died? And he said, well, you always
say we're not a breaking news show.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
He thought was funny. It's not.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
We're not a breaking news show. But when the Hulk dies,
we're going to mention it. That's what we're gonna do.
Funny Hulk Hogan story. My dear friend, the late George Foreman,
made over two hundred million dollars on the George Foreman grill,
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but it almost never came to pass that grill made
by that company was offered.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
To Hulk Hogan.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
They knew they needed a personality, they had the product,
and they had a huge marketing budget. Turns out marketing works.
That's good because I'm in a business that is supported
by people who pay to talk to you through me.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Well, it's an influencer.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
We use the word influencer now we think of influencers
as mister Beast or the Kardashians. Hulk Cogan was an influencer.
Hulk Hogan was offered to be the frontman for that grill. Now,
he wasn't offered two hundred million dollars. It had taken
that down. He was offered a cut of the profits,
small cut, but a cut of the profits. And his
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team of people who reviewed all the business offers that
were presented to him, said, we don't see another little
tabletop grill that drains off the grease being anything worth anything.
What else you got, Oh, well we got this spaghetti maker.
Obia Ah, that's what people want. They want to make
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spaghetti at home pasta. So the Hulk Hogan Pasta Maker
was born and it busted. Next on the list of
prospective spokesman was the champ former heavyweight chant George Foreman.
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One of the most sweet, wonderful, impressive, wise human beings
I've ever met in my life. I adored that man.
He gave us our dog, George. Why we named her George,
it was because he gave her to us. He was
a breeder of prize German shepherds. He's a great father
to his kid's, great husband to his wife, inventor, pastor
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of a church that he funded entirely, mentor to so
many people. Good actor, incredible boxer, A story of fifty
years old showing the world just don't give up. So
that product is offered to George Foreman. George Foreman becomes
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the face of this grill, which they named the George
Foreman Grill. George Foreman's got a charm about him in
personal life and in front of the camera. Some people
lack it in front of the camera, but everyone loved George.
He's this big, burly guy, mean, just cuddly big fellow.
And that thing sold gangbusters, I mean gangbusters so much
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so that fifty million dollars into it. The folks came
to him and said, hey, how about we buy you out.
We'll give you a one time lump sum payment of
one hundred and fifty million dollars. That'll true you up
to two hundred million. You will have made twundred million
off his thing. And because you know it, you're running
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the risk maybe tomorrow's thy won't be popular anymore. He
took his buck, fifty went on his way, and the
George Roman grill did end up making a lot more money, but.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Two and I think it was two hundred and ten million.
He ended up making off of it.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Pretty darn good haul, if you ask me. Back to
Tulsey Gabbard, she said, there is irrefutable evidence that details
President Obama and his national security team directed the creation
of an Intelligence Community assessment an ICA that they knew
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was false. They knew what they were doing. They were
doing this on purpose, they were abusing their powers, and
we're not going to let them off the hook.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
There is irrefutable evidence that detail how President Obama and
his national security team directed the creation of an intelligence
community assessment that they knew was false. They knew it
would promote this contrived narrative that Russia interfered in the
twenty sixteen election to help President Trump win, selling it
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to the American people as though it were true.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
It wasn't. The report that.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
We released Today's shows in great detail how they carried
this out. They manufactured findings from shoddy sources. They suppressed
evidence and credible intelligence that disproved their false claims. They
disobeyed traditional tradecraft intelligence community standards, and withheld the truth
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from the American people. In doing so, they conspired to
subvert the will of the American people who elected Donald
Trump in that election in November of twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
So now we've seen it investigated.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
That we never expected to see in the first place,
then exposed because a lot of things get investigated but
never revealed. The next question will be will it be prosecuted?
We have grown so jaded, and I'm as guilty as
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you are, so we have grown so jaded that we
do not believe any of it will ever matter. And
I hear from you in your frust traded, and you say, Michael,
you're going on on about what Obama did, And here's
what does it matter. He's not going to prison. If
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you were to ask me today, is he going to prison? No,
I don't believe he's going to prison. But short of
going to prison, is there a reason to expose this? Absolutely?
And the reason to explode, expose this is the very
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reason the left insists on tearing down monuments. It's why
isis tore down monuments in Syria that went back to Christendom,
thousand year old sacred monuments and artifacts. It's a question
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of what is going to be Obama's legacy, how is
he and how are they going to be perceived? And
I want to see them sweat. I want them to
fear going to prison because the implications if a president
can get away with this and they're not prosecuted and
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they're not hassled, the implications, as she notes, are far
reaching into the future.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
The implications of this are far reaching and have to
do with the integrity of our democratic republic. It has
to do with an outgoing president taking action to manufacture
intelligence to undermine and usurp the will of the American
people in that election and launch what would be a
year's long coup against the incoming president of the United States,
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Donald Trump,