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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's that time.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Time, time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
The Michael Verie Show is on the air.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
On the Cross, our Savior said, Father, forgive them, for
they not know what they do.
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That man, that young man, I forgive him.
Speaker 5 (00:33):
Well, believers are seated. If there's any in this room
and across the globe that would desire to receive Jesus
as their saviors, Charlie did as a young man, and
that was in the presence of his Savior. I'm going
to ask you to put action to your faith, and
I'd ask you to stand right now to receive the Lord.
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Don't be a shamed stand amen.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
For those of us who knew Charlie, and even though
those of you who may never have had the chance
to meet him in person, we all know and experience
how Charlie spoke with a calm courage, not asking what
will God do for me, but instead praying, God, use
me for your will.
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Christ told us in the Gospel of John, I have
said these things to you that in me you may
have peace.
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In the world you will have tribulation.
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But take heart, I have overcome the world, every single
one of us before the beginning of time by the
hands of the God of the universe and all powerful
God who.
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Loved us and created us for the purpose of living
with him in eternity. But then sin entered the world
and separated us from our creator. And so God took
on the form of a man and came down and
lived among us.
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And he suffered like men, and he died like a man.
But on the third day he rose unlike any mortal man.
And to prove any.
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Doubt or is wrong, he ate with his disciple well
so they could see, and they touched his wounds. He
didn't rise as a ghost or as a spirit, but
his flesh.
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And then he rose to the heaven.
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But he promised he would return, and he will. And
when he returns, because he took on that death, because
he carried that cross, we were.
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Freed from the sin that separated us from him.
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And when he returns, there will be a new heaven
and a new Earth, and we will all be together,
and we are going to have a great reunion there
again with Charlie and all the people we loved.
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One moment, Charlie was doing what he loved, arguing and
debating on campus, fighting.
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For the gospel.
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Truth in front of a big crowd, and then he blinked.
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He blinked.
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And saw his savior in Pyadim. Charlie. First martyrdom.
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Will have its greatest effect if all the people rise
up and say, I'm not on the sidewalk of this
parade any longer. I'm out in the street leading it.
I'm going to engage. I'm going to be more active,
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I'm going to be fearless. Now, you need the tools
the Bible says to gird your loins. You need the
tools to engage, and most people don't have them. I
have tried to assist those who I think need some guidance,
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and a lot of it I think falls on deaf ears.
If you want to bring great change to this country,
I will tell you this, If you really want this
country to be better for your children and grandchildren, there's
not a moment you're spending on CNN or MSNBC that's going.
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To do that.
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I gotta know what the enemy's doing. That's not what
you're doing. You want a reason to rage, and you
go over there and they give it to you. It's
all performative. Have you noticed that Chris Cuomo now says
the opposite of what he once said he was the
star of CNN. He said what he needed to say
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when he said it. Joe Scarborough does the same thing.
He was a Republican congressman. He didn't believe the Republican
stuff he's spouted, and he doesn't believe what he's saying now.
So why let yourself invest emotionally in something that is
a theatrical production. You didn't go home at the end
of Apocalypse Now and say the world was over because
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it was a movie, except to the extent for those
who served in Vietnam that it represented real life. That's
the difference between what you see on CNN and MSNBC.
Erica Kirk challenged young men in this country, and I
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will say, if men will be men and women will
be women, if men will conduct themselves as leaders, as helpers,
as advisors, as warriors, as protectors, that will solve a
lot of our problems. She's really taking her cue from
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what Charlie said here, But I hope every man will
commit to this right here.
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To all the men watching around the world, accept Charlie's
challenge and embrace true manhood. Be strong and courageous for
your families, love your wives, and lead them love your
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children and protect them.
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Be the spiritual head.
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Of your home. But please be a leader worth following
your wife. Your wife is not your servant. Your wife
is not your employee. Your wife is not your slave.
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She is your helper. You are not rivals. You are
one flesh working together for the glory of God. I'm
pretty sure living here and enjoying the wonderful TENSI with.
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The Michael Barry.
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Women be better, better fathers, better husbands, better coaches, better mentors,
better big brothers. But Erica Kirk continued Charlie Kirk's ministry
with some advice of her own for the ladies. And
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I think our ladies could take this to heart as well.
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Women, I have a challenge for you too. Be virtuous.
Our strength is found in God's design for our role.
We are the guardians, We are the encouragers, we are
the preservers.
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Pard your heart. Everything you do flows from it.
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And if you're a mother, please recognize that is the
single most important ministry you have.
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You know, the breakdown of the family is the breakdown
of our country. The rot that you see in every way,
shape or form is broken families. If you are married
and raising children in a godly way. That's what they
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call white privilege. Do you know why it's called white privilege,
because it is the privilege that launches a child to success.
If you get those things right, you raise a grounded child,
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they are so much less likely to drop out of
high school, to be arrested, to be old, to be imprisoned.
They are so much more likely to find personal and
professional and financial success. That's why it's called white privilege.
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It's open to everybody, and if you listen carefully to
the critics, what they're really saying is, with white privilege,
you come from a two parent home where godly guidance
is given and love is abundant.
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Guilty.
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If that's white privilege, then let's figure out how to
make that black privilege too. Let's let's figure out how
to make that the privilege of every community. This is
the part of Erica's speech that has received the most attention.
It also received the largest ovation. You probably already remember it,
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but we are going over some of this again the
way you do for an exam, to really really delve
into the material, to go granular, to really wrestle with it.
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My husband, Charlie, he wanted to save.
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Young men, just like the one who took his life,
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that young man, that young man on the cross, Our
Savior said, Father, forgive them, for they not know what
they do.
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That man, that young man.
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I forgive him.
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I forgive him because it was what Christ did and
is what Charlie would do.
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The answer to hate is not hate.
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The answer we know from.
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The Gospel is love and always love, love for our enemies,
and love for those who persecute us.
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That is what the Bible commands us. But I will
confess I find myself more in the President Trump frame
of mind more often, and that is not something I'm
proud of, but it is if we're being truthful, it
is the truth.
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Before Charlie arrived on campus the day he was assassinated,
as a staff member texted him that there were many
critics and students who were opposed as views and rather
strenuously in the crowd, and that actually made him feel
good because he wanted to convince them he understood.
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He really did. He understood what was right, and he
was right about that.
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A lot of it was based on common sense, by
the way, Charlie wrote back to the staff member saying,
I'm not here to fight them. I want to know
them and love them, and I want to reach them
and try and lead them into a great way of.
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Life in our country.
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In that private moment on his dying day, we found
and everything we need to know about who Charlie Kirk
truly was. He was a missionary with a noble spirit
and a great, great purpose.
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He did not hate his opponents. He wanted the best
for them. That's where I disagreed with Charlie.
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I hate my opponent and I don't want the best
for them.
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I'm sorry. I am sorry Erica. But now Erica can talk.
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To me and the whole group and maybe they can
convince me that that's not right. But I can't stand
my opponent. Charlie's angry. Look at that, he's angry at me.
He wasn't interested in demonizing anyone. He was interested in
persuading everyone to the ideas and principles he believed were good,
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right and true. Before each appearance, he prayed these words,
God used me for your will, always.
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Said the same thing me for you.
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Well, and that is exactly what God did. When you
think that's exactly what he did.
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That's really those two perspectives. I think it's healthy for
us to have this discussion. I think it's very healthy
to talk about difficult things. A lot of people put
difficult things to bed, don't talk about it, or they
choose one side and decide my side is right and
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they hurl insults at the other. If I'm honest, I
wrestle with this question. I struggle with this question mightily,
and I think most especially men, but maybe mothers as
well do too.
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Hey what he do with Barlauter? People sambur Right now,
you're listening into the Michael Berryson.
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There are several clips I'd like to share. Maybe we'll
bundle them together for the weekend podcast. And if you
find yourself saying, Michael, I watched the whole memorial A revival,
I've already seen them. I understand that. One of my
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approaches is we got a lot of people that this
may be the only thing they get their perspective on
because they were working over the weekend or coaching ball
or whatever that is. So it's a decision we have
to make. So just bear with us. That revival yesterday
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was so beautiful on so many levels. And I got
to tell you I wasn't always the biggest Marco Rubio
fan I was not, but I'm going to play the
entirety of his remarks right here because they are that good.
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About maybe ten or twel years ago, a person I
knew very well had been very helpful to me and
my campaigns when I was in the Senate came to
me and said she had met this very impressive young
man and he was going to start this group to
go on college campuses and try to convince young Americans
that ours was the greatest country in the history of
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the world and that Marxism was bad.
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And I remember thinking.
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Back then, I was I'm gonna admit to you.
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Guys, tho it was a little skeptical.
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I said, college campuses, you're going to do that, why
don't you start somewhere easier, like, for example, Communist Cuba.
You know, But my skepticism was proven wrong in place
after place over the last twelve fourteen.
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Sixteen years, we've seen this renaissance.
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Understand where we were at that time in our history,
understand what we are still today. In many places where
young Americans are actively told that everything that they were taught,
that all the foundations that made our society and our
civilization so grand, they were all they were all evil,
that marriage is oppressive, that children are a burden, that
America is a source of evil, not of good in
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the world. And here was this voice that inspired a
movement in which young Americans were told that is not true.
The highest calling we are called to is to be
in a successful marriage and to raise productive children, and
a movement that taught them that ours was not a
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great country, but the greatest, most exceptional nation that has
ever existed in the history of all of mankind, and
that it's worth fighting for, it's worth defending, it's worth preserving,
and it's worth passing on to the next generation. This
was the mission and the work of Charlie Kirk, and
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a couple things that stound out about him. He led
this movement, but he did so with incredible knowledge. It's
unbelievable how much he knew. He came to me very
recently he said some quote. He said, I said, who
said that? He said, Marcus Aurelius. I said, what district
does he represent? I kind of knew it was, but
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he said back, no, it's a.
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Roman you know, philosopher, King our emperor.
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His incredible knowledge and let me tell you that one
of the last messages I had with him was just
a few days before his passing, where he wrote me
from overseas, I'm in South Korea.
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I have many.
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Concerns I want to share with you when I get back.
He was constantly expanding his horizons, but he just didn't
have knowledge. He had wisdom, an uncanny amount of wisdom
for a man as young as he was, wisdom that
sometimes it takes the lifetime to accumulate.
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He had it in just thirty one years. He was
also bold. It is so easy, and listen, I've been
guilty of it. I think many of us have been
guilty of this.
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You hide behind the walls and you surround yourself with
people that agree with you. We do it asciety all
the time. Increasingly, people are moving into neighborhoods with other
people that agree with them politically and isolate themselves from
people that do not agree with them. But Charlie Kirk
was bold. He actively sought out to engage peacefully, respectfully
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those who he disagreed with. As recently as two days ago,
we learned of one of the hosts on CNN who
said that one of the messages he had gotten just
a few days before. It's always passing was from him
inviting him to dialogue.
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And he did this on campuses, He did this on.
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Podcasts, he did this on radio shows, he did this
on television shows.
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Time and again.
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He sought to engage those he disagreed with, because he
understood that we were not created to isolate ourselves from
one another, but to engage. The irony in all this
is that what our nation needs, one of the many
things that needs, is the ability to discuss our differences openly, honestly, peacefully, respectfully.
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And Charlie Kirk did that more.
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Than anyone alive in America today is doing. And Charlie
Kirk was impactful, impactful because of all the things I've said.
But look around this place. There's one hundred and something
thousand people here. The President of the United States is here,
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his entire cabinet is here. Television, audio outlets and media
outlets from all over the world are covering this. I
just came from overseas and every country I stopped they
gave us their condolences for his passing. Impactful and just
thirty one years of life. He made a difference. He
mattered and he will matter now more than he ever
has before. And let me close with this, how do
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you remember? This is a memorial service, it's to honor him.
How do you best remember it? I'll take the liberty
of saying what I think we can best do. I
think he had a tremendous impact on young Americans in general.
I think he had a very special and direct impact
on young men in this country. That's one of the
greatest developments I've seen. It's been very positive. I think
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we remember him for that. I think we remember him
for constantly saying, you want to live a productive life,
get married, start a family, love your country.
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These are powerful messages.
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But I hope many who are watching I imagine there
are people watching here tonight that didn't know much about
Charlie Kirk until eleven days ago. Maybe they were disengaged
from politics, maybe they were partially engaged.
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I hope one of the things they take from.
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This is that the movement Charlie Kirk led and started
and gave fuel to was about politics, but not only
about politics.
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It was deeper, it was broader.
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And I would say that taking the liberty, but I'm
confident he would agree.
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One of the things he wants.
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Us to take away from this. From all of this
is the following his deep belief that we were all created,
every single one of us, before the beginning of time,
by the hands of the God of the universe and
all powerful God, who loved us and created us for
the purpose living with him in eternity. But then sin
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entered the world and separated us from our creator. And
so God took on the form of a man and
came down and lived among us, and he suffered like men,
and he died like a man. But on the third
day he rose unlike any mortal man. And then, and
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to prove any doubters wrong, he ate with his disciples
so they could see, and they touched his wounds.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
He didn't rise as a ghost or.
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As a spirit, but his flesh.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
And then he rose to the heaven.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
But he promised he would return, and he will. And
when he returns, because he took on that death, because
he carried that cross, we were free.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
From the sin that separated us from him.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
And when he returns, there will be a new heaven
and a new earth, and we will all be together,
and we are going to have a great reunion there
again with Charlie and all.
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The people we love. Thank you and God bless you. Michael.
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As we close the show, I want to issue a
challenge to you, and that challenge is that what happened
will not be in vain. It will not just be
a point in the continuum of events. You remember nine
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to eleven, JFK's assassination, the Reagan shooting, Challenger explosion, President
Trump being shot in the head, but that there will
be a pre and post this moment, that this will
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be the moment you will recognize that, just like Charlie Kirk,
we are all going to meet our maker, and that
this will be the moment that everything you have put
off off you no longer put off. You know the
old line, It's turned out to be so true in
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my life. If you want something done, ask a busy person.
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It's true.
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If you want to get something done, you need a favor,
you need an action carried out, ask a busy person.
It will be done. They will find time in the
middle of everything else. They will squeeze it in there
because they've learned to do that. They are a person
with as one of my mentors, Russell Lebarra, who owns
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Ringo's text mex all over Houston says a sense of urgency.
He has a book called Enchilada Entrepreneur. He talks about
a sense of urgency when I need a check from him,
or Camp Hope or the PTSD Foundation, which is our
Veterans Helping Veterans, PTSD residential treatment of facility, or for
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a cop who's been wounded, or for Saint Jude. Those
are the things that we spend most of our charitable
energy on. I don't like veterans being thought of as charitable,
but it is at least tax free, so we'll use
that word philanthropic. Maybe he refers to it as a
sense of urgency. So if I call and say, Russell,
can I get a fifty thousand dollars check? Or our
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veterans were trying to do this at Camp Hope. If
he says yes, I mean he's never said no, which
is why I have to be careful what I ask
him for. If he says yes, he will be at
my doorstep in thirty minutes with that check, and his
office is forty minutes away. Busy people get things done
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because they don't procrastinate, because procrastination is negotiating with yourself
against your own best interests. And so I'm going to
ask you, challenge you, dare you.
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To take this.
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Moment and do something bold. Make a commitment. Maybe it's
to work out every day and you're not already. Maybe
it's to be a better spouse. What does that mean?
Give yourself definable goals. Charlie wrote a letter to his
wife once a week, every Saturday, because he traveled so much,
and that was his way of expressing, because you know,
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sometimes we forget to express and ladies.
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Do like that.
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They do like it. They like to be told. They
like to not be taken for granted. Just because they
got a baby on each boob and their barefoot and
their nails aren't done, they don't have any makeup on
their hairs. They still want to know that they're beautiful
and they're loved and they're cared for and appreciated. We
owe them that. So I'm going to ask you to
make that. I'm going to write it down. I'm going
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to be a better Christian.
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What does that mean? What does that mean?
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You're going to be a better Christian? Make that an
actionable item. I'm going to be a better Dad, What
does that mean? I'm going to be a better patriot at,
a better civic American.
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What does that mean?
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Does it mean you're going to become a precinct chairman?
Because just this amorphous idea, without any guardrails, without any parameters,
without any details, any structure, I'm going to be better
at You're gonna forget people of action understand that. I think, perhaps,
if not the most powerful, the most poignant moment for
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me was Charlie's pastor, Rob McCoy, who used the opportunity
to save souls for God.
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Here's what he said, Where the bullseye is and where
the arrow lands that's called the sin distance? How far
are you falling from perfection? And there are none righteous?
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No, not one.
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We've all missed the mark the bulls eye, and we
try to get to God by our efforts, but there
is no effort that will bring us back into the
presence of a righteous God. You see, the wages of
sin is death. Charlie knew this, and at an early
age he entrusted his life to the savior of the world.
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Jesus came to this earth.
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Was tempted in all ways, yet was without sin, was
crucified upon a cross.
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His blood was poured out.
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Because blood must be shed for the remission of sins,
and his death upon that cross was sufficient for all
the world's sins, but only efficient for those who, like Charlie,
would receive him as their savior. Jesus has come to
seek and save that which is lost. And I would
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say this to all of you. The Lord loves you.
He wants to save you. He wants to give you
a new life. He wants to cover the multitude of
your sins by the blood he shed upon the cross.
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The Bible says, if you believe in your heart and
you confess with your tongue Jesus's Lord, you will be
saved to the glory of the Father. You see, Charlie
looked at politics as an on ramp to Jesus. He
knew if he could get all of you rowing in
the streams of liberty, you come to its source.
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And that's the Lord.
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In the time I have remaining, I'm going to ask
all who profess Christ as their savior to remain seated.
The Bible says, if you profess me before Man, I'll
profess you before my Father in Heaven. It requires an
act of faith.
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You stand.
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That's what Charlie did every day on campus with death threats.
He stood because he knew in whom he had trusted.
And he wants to give you the gift of the
why and what he did, and that is his Savior, Jesus.
While believers are seated, if there's any in this room
and across the globe that would desire to receive Jesus
as their saviors, Charlie did as a young man and
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now is in the presence of his Savior. I'm going
to ask you to put action to your faith, and
I'd ask you to stand right now to receive the Lord.
Don't be a shamed.
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Stand amen, Amen, Amen. The Bible says. The Bible says that.
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When one sinner gives their heart to the Lord, the
angels in heaven rejoice.
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And I got to tell you there's one up there
right now.
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Charlie gergis stoked and he's excited about your commitment to
a savior.
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For this remaining moment.
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If you've given your heart to the Lord and someone
has seated next to you, I want that person who's
a believer to stand and pray with you, and please
up on the screen. I want you to take a
picture of this QR code. We are going to give
you everything you need to walk this walk with Christ.
Faith comes from hearing and hearing from the Word of God,
and it's time to get into a Bible believing church
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and pastors. If you didn't want to give Charlie Kirk
the time of day, these folks are gonna be showing
up at your church and they're there.
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Because of His life. God lets you and may the
Lord keep you. Amen. Jan Hells has lit for kilty.
Thank you, goodnight,
It's that time.
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Time, time, time, luck and load.
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The Michael Verie Show is on the air.
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On the Cross, our Savior said, Father, forgive them, for
they not know what they do.
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That man, that young man, I forgive him.
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Well, believers are seated. If there's any in this room
and across the globe that would desire to receive Jesus
as their saviors, Charlie did as a young man, and
that was in the presence of his Savior. I'm going
to ask you to put action to your faith, and
I'd ask you to stand right now to receive the Lord.
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Don't be a shamed stand amen.
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For those of us who knew Charlie, and even though
those of you who may never have had the chance
to meet him in person, we all know and experience
how Charlie spoke with a calm courage, not asking what
will God do for me, but instead praying, God, use
me for your will.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Christ told us in the Gospel of John, I have
said these things to you that in me you may
have peace.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
In the world you will have tribulation.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
But take heart, I have overcome the world, every single
one of us before the beginning of time by the
hands of the God of the universe and all powerful
God who.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
Loved us and created us for the purpose of living
with him in eternity. But then sin entered the world
and separated us from our creator. And so God took
on the form of a man and came down and
lived among us.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
And he suffered like men, and he died like a man.
But on the third day he rose unlike any mortal man.
And to prove any.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
Doubt or is wrong, he ate with his disciple well
so they could see, and they touched his wounds. He
didn't rise as a ghost or as a spirit, but
his flesh.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
And then he rose to the heaven.
Speaker 6 (02:07):
But he promised he would return, and he will. And
when he returns, because he took on that death, because
he carried that cross, we were.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Freed from the sin that separated us from him.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
And when he returns, there will be a new heaven
and a new Earth, and we will all be together,
and we are going to have a great reunion there
again with Charlie and all the people we loved.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
One moment, Charlie was doing what he loved, arguing and
debating on campus, fighting.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
For the gospel.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Truth in front of a big crowd, and then he blinked.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
He blinked.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
And saw his savior in Pyadim. Charlie. First martyrdom.
Speaker 7 (02:55):
Will have its greatest effect if all the people rise
up and say, I'm not on the sidewalk of this
parade any longer. I'm out in the street leading it.
I'm going to engage. I'm going to be more active,
(03:19):
I'm going to be fearless. Now, you need the tools
the Bible says to gird your loins. You need the
tools to engage, and most people don't have them. I
have tried to assist those who I think need some guidance,
(03:47):
and a lot of it I think falls on deaf ears.
If you want to bring great change to this country,
I will tell you this, If you really want this
country to be better for your children and grandchildren, there's
not a moment you're spending on CNN or MSNBC that's going.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
To do that.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
I gotta know what the enemy's doing. That's not what
you're doing. You want a reason to rage, and you
go over there and they give it to you. It's
all performative. Have you noticed that Chris Cuomo now says
the opposite of what he once said he was the
star of CNN. He said what he needed to say
(04:29):
when he said it. Joe Scarborough does the same thing.
He was a Republican congressman. He didn't believe the Republican
stuff he's spouted, and he doesn't believe what he's saying now.
So why let yourself invest emotionally in something that is
a theatrical production. You didn't go home at the end
of Apocalypse Now and say the world was over because
(04:53):
it was a movie, except to the extent for those
who served in Vietnam that it represented real life. That's
the difference between what you see on CNN and MSNBC.
Erica Kirk challenged young men in this country, and I
(05:15):
will say, if men will be men and women will
be women, if men will conduct themselves as leaders, as helpers,
as advisors, as warriors, as protectors, that will solve a
lot of our problems. She's really taking her cue from
(05:38):
what Charlie said here, But I hope every man will
commit to this right here.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
To all the men watching around the world, accept Charlie's
challenge and embrace true manhood. Be strong and courageous for
your families, love your wives, and lead them love your
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children and protect them.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Be the spiritual head.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Of your home. But please be a leader worth following
your wife. Your wife is not your servant. Your wife
is not your employee. Your wife is not your slave.
(06:41):
She is your helper. You are not rivals. You are
one flesh working together for the glory of God. I'm
pretty sure living here and enjoying the wonderful TENSI with.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
The Michael Barry.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
Women be better, better fathers, better husbands, better coaches, better mentors,
better big brothers. But Erica Kirk continued Charlie Kirk's ministry
with some advice of her own for the ladies. And
(07:23):
I think our ladies could take this to heart as well.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Women, I have a challenge for you too. Be virtuous.
Our strength is found in God's design for our role.
We are the guardians, We are the encouragers, we are
the preservers.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Pard your heart. Everything you do flows from it.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
And if you're a mother, please recognize that is the
single most important ministry you have.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
You know, the breakdown of the family is the breakdown
of our country. The rot that you see in every way,
shape or form is broken families. If you are married
and raising children in a godly way. That's what they
(08:29):
call white privilege. Do you know why it's called white privilege,
because it is the privilege that launches a child to success.
If you get those things right, you raise a grounded child,
(08:49):
they are so much less likely to drop out of
high school, to be arrested, to be old, to be imprisoned.
They are so much more likely to find personal and
professional and financial success. That's why it's called white privilege.
(09:14):
It's open to everybody, and if you listen carefully to
the critics, what they're really saying is, with white privilege,
you come from a two parent home where godly guidance
is given and love is abundant.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Guilty.
Speaker 7 (09:40):
If that's white privilege, then let's figure out how to
make that black privilege too. Let's let's figure out how
to make that the privilege of every community. This is
the part of Erica's speech that has received the most attention.
It also received the largest ovation. You probably already remember it,
(10:05):
but we are going over some of this again the
way you do for an exam, to really really delve
into the material, to go granular, to really wrestle with it.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
My husband, Charlie, he wanted to save.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Young men, just like the one who took his life,
(10:46):
that young man, that young man on the cross, Our
Savior said, Father, forgive them, for they not know what
they do.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
That man, that young man.
Speaker 8 (11:14):
I forgive him.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I forgive him because it was what Christ did and
is what Charlie would do.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
The answer to hate is not hate.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
The answer we know from.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
The Gospel is love and always love, love for our enemies,
and love for those who persecute us.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
That is what the Bible commands us. But I will
confess I find myself more in the President Trump frame
of mind more often, and that is not something I'm
proud of, but it is if we're being truthful, it
is the truth.
Speaker 9 (12:14):
Before Charlie arrived on campus the day he was assassinated,
as a staff member texted him that there were many
critics and students who were opposed as views and rather
strenuously in the crowd, and that actually made him feel
good because he wanted to convince them he understood.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
He really did. He understood what was right, and he
was right about that.
Speaker 9 (12:37):
A lot of it was based on common sense, by
the way, Charlie wrote back to the staff member saying,
I'm not here to fight them. I want to know
them and love them, and I want to reach them
and try and lead them into a great way of.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Life in our country.
Speaker 9 (12:56):
In that private moment on his dying day, we found
and everything we need to know about who Charlie Kirk
truly was. He was a missionary with a noble spirit
and a great, great purpose.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
He did not hate his opponents. He wanted the best
for them. That's where I disagreed with Charlie.
Speaker 9 (13:18):
I hate my opponent and I don't want the best
for them.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I'm sorry. I am sorry Erica. But now Erica can talk.
Speaker 9 (13:26):
To me and the whole group and maybe they can
convince me that that's not right. But I can't stand
my opponent. Charlie's angry. Look at that, he's angry at me.
He wasn't interested in demonizing anyone. He was interested in
persuading everyone to the ideas and principles he believed were good,
(13:49):
right and true. Before each appearance, he prayed these words,
God used me for your will, always.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Said the same thing me for you.
Speaker 9 (14:00):
Well, and that is exactly what God did. When you
think that's exactly what he did.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
That's really those two perspectives. I think it's healthy for
us to have this discussion. I think it's very healthy
to talk about difficult things. A lot of people put
difficult things to bed, don't talk about it, or they
choose one side and decide my side is right and
(14:35):
they hurl insults at the other. If I'm honest, I
wrestle with this question. I struggle with this question mightily,
and I think most especially men, but maybe mothers as
well do too.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Hey what he do with Barlauter? People sambur Right now,
you're listening into the Michael Berryson.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
There are several clips I'd like to share. Maybe we'll
bundle them together for the weekend podcast. And if you
find yourself saying, Michael, I watched the whole memorial A revival,
I've already seen them. I understand that. One of my
(15:19):
approaches is we got a lot of people that this
may be the only thing they get their perspective on
because they were working over the weekend or coaching ball
or whatever that is. So it's a decision we have
to make. So just bear with us. That revival yesterday
(15:41):
was so beautiful on so many levels. And I got
to tell you I wasn't always the biggest Marco Rubio
fan I was not, but I'm going to play the
entirety of his remarks right here because they are that good.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
About maybe ten or twel years ago, a person I
knew very well had been very helpful to me and
my campaigns when I was in the Senate came to
me and said she had met this very impressive young
man and he was going to start this group to
go on college campuses and try to convince young Americans
that ours was the greatest country in the history of
(16:18):
the world and that Marxism was bad.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
And I remember thinking.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Back then, I was I'm gonna admit to you.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Guys, tho it was a little skeptical.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
I said, college campuses, you're going to do that, why
don't you start somewhere easier, like, for example, Communist Cuba.
You know, But my skepticism was proven wrong in place
after place over the last twelve fourteen.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Sixteen years, we've seen this renaissance.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Understand where we were at that time in our history,
understand what we are still today. In many places where
young Americans are actively told that everything that they were taught,
that all the foundations that made our society and our
civilization so grand, they were all they were all evil,
that marriage is oppressive, that children are a burden, that
America is a source of evil, not of good in
(17:05):
the world. And here was this voice that inspired a
movement in which young Americans were told that is not true.
The highest calling we are called to is to be
in a successful marriage and to raise productive children, and
a movement that taught them that ours was not a
(17:28):
great country, but the greatest, most exceptional nation that has
ever existed in the history of all of mankind, and
that it's worth fighting for, it's worth defending, it's worth preserving,
and it's worth passing on to the next generation. This
was the mission and the work of Charlie Kirk, and
(17:51):
a couple things that stound out about him. He led
this movement, but he did so with incredible knowledge. It's
unbelievable how much he knew. He came to me very
recently he said some quote. He said, I said, who
said that? He said, Marcus Aurelius. I said, what district
does he represent? I kind of knew it was, but
(18:12):
he said back, no, it's a.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Roman you know, philosopher, King our emperor.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
His incredible knowledge and let me tell you that one
of the last messages I had with him was just
a few days before his passing, where he wrote me
from overseas, I'm in South Korea.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I have many.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Concerns I want to share with you when I get back.
He was constantly expanding his horizons, but he just didn't
have knowledge. He had wisdom, an uncanny amount of wisdom
for a man as young as he was, wisdom that
sometimes it takes the lifetime to accumulate.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
He had it in just thirty one years. He was
also bold. It is so easy, and listen, I've been
guilty of it. I think many of us have been
guilty of this.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
You hide behind the walls and you surround yourself with
people that agree with you. We do it asciety all
the time. Increasingly, people are moving into neighborhoods with other
people that agree with them politically and isolate themselves from
people that do not agree with them. But Charlie Kirk
was bold. He actively sought out to engage peacefully, respectfully
(19:15):
those who he disagreed with. As recently as two days ago,
we learned of one of the hosts on CNN who
said that one of the messages he had gotten just
a few days before. It's always passing was from him
inviting him to dialogue.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
And he did this on campuses, He did this on.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
Podcasts, he did this on radio shows, he did this
on television shows.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Time and again.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
He sought to engage those he disagreed with, because he
understood that we were not created to isolate ourselves from
one another, but to engage. The irony in all this
is that what our nation needs, one of the many
things that needs, is the ability to discuss our differences openly, honestly, peacefully, respectfully.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
And Charlie Kirk did that more.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
Than anyone alive in America today is doing. And Charlie
Kirk was impactful, impactful because of all the things I've said.
But look around this place. There's one hundred and something
thousand people here. The President of the United States is here,
(20:13):
his entire cabinet is here. Television, audio outlets and media
outlets from all over the world are covering this. I
just came from overseas and every country I stopped they
gave us their condolences for his passing. Impactful and just
thirty one years of life. He made a difference. He
mattered and he will matter now more than he ever
has before. And let me close with this, how do
(20:38):
you remember? This is a memorial service, it's to honor him.
How do you best remember it? I'll take the liberty
of saying what I think we can best do. I
think he had a tremendous impact on young Americans in general.
I think he had a very special and direct impact
on young men in this country. That's one of the
greatest developments I've seen. It's been very positive. I think
(20:58):
we remember him for that. I think we remember him
for constantly saying, you want to live a productive life,
get married, start a family, love your country.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
These are powerful messages.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
But I hope many who are watching I imagine there
are people watching here tonight that didn't know much about
Charlie Kirk until eleven days ago. Maybe they were disengaged
from politics, maybe they were partially engaged.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
I hope one of the things they take from.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
This is that the movement Charlie Kirk led and started
and gave fuel to was about politics, but not only
about politics.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
It was deeper, it was broader.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
And I would say that taking the liberty, but I'm
confident he would agree.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
One of the things he wants.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Us to take away from this. From all of this
is the following his deep belief that we were all created,
every single one of us, before the beginning of time,
by the hands of the God of the universe and
all powerful God, who loved us and created us for
the purpose living with him in eternity. But then sin
(22:02):
entered the world and separated us from our creator. And
so God took on the form of a man and
came down and lived among us, and he suffered like men,
and he died like a man. But on the third
day he rose unlike any mortal man. And then, and
(22:23):
to prove any doubters wrong, he ate with his disciples
so they could see, and they touched his wounds.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
He didn't rise as a ghost or.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
As a spirit, but his flesh.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
And then he rose to the heaven.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
But he promised he would return, and he will. And
when he returns, because he took on that death, because
he carried that cross, we were free.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
From the sin that separated us from him.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
And when he returns, there will be a new heaven
and a new earth, and we will all be together,
and we are going to have a great reunion there
again with Charlie and all.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
The people we love. Thank you and God bless you. Michael.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
As we close the show, I want to issue a
challenge to you, and that challenge is that what happened
will not be in vain. It will not just be
a point in the continuum of events. You remember nine
(23:21):
to eleven, JFK's assassination, the Reagan shooting, Challenger explosion, President
Trump being shot in the head, but that there will
be a pre and post this moment, that this will
(23:46):
be the moment you will recognize that, just like Charlie Kirk,
we are all going to meet our maker, and that
this will be the moment that everything you have put
off off you no longer put off. You know the
old line, It's turned out to be so true in
(24:07):
my life. If you want something done, ask a busy person.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
It's true.
Speaker 7 (24:14):
If you want to get something done, you need a favor,
you need an action carried out, ask a busy person.
It will be done. They will find time in the
middle of everything else. They will squeeze it in there
because they've learned to do that. They are a person
with as one of my mentors, Russell Lebarra, who owns
(24:34):
Ringo's text mex all over Houston says a sense of urgency.
He has a book called Enchilada Entrepreneur. He talks about
a sense of urgency when I need a check from him,
or Camp Hope or the PTSD Foundation, which is our
Veterans Helping Veterans, PTSD residential treatment of facility, or for
(24:57):
a cop who's been wounded, or for Saint Jude. Those
are the things that we spend most of our charitable
energy on. I don't like veterans being thought of as charitable,
but it is at least tax free, so we'll use
that word philanthropic. Maybe he refers to it as a
sense of urgency. So if I call and say, Russell,
can I get a fifty thousand dollars check? Or our
(25:17):
veterans were trying to do this at Camp Hope. If
he says yes, I mean he's never said no, which
is why I have to be careful what I ask
him for. If he says yes, he will be at
my doorstep in thirty minutes with that check, and his
office is forty minutes away. Busy people get things done
(25:39):
because they don't procrastinate, because procrastination is negotiating with yourself
against your own best interests. And so I'm going to
ask you, challenge you, dare you.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
To take this.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
Moment and do something bold. Make a commitment. Maybe it's
to work out every day and you're not already. Maybe
it's to be a better spouse. What does that mean?
Give yourself definable goals. Charlie wrote a letter to his
wife once a week, every Saturday, because he traveled so much,
and that was his way of expressing, because you know,
(26:17):
sometimes we forget to express and ladies.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Do like that.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
They do like it. They like to be told. They
like to not be taken for granted. Just because they
got a baby on each boob and their barefoot and
their nails aren't done, they don't have any makeup on
their hairs. They still want to know that they're beautiful
and they're loved and they're cared for and appreciated. We
owe them that. So I'm going to ask you to
make that. I'm going to write it down. I'm going
(26:42):
to be a better Christian.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
What does that mean? What does that mean?
Speaker 7 (26:45):
You're going to be a better Christian? Make that an
actionable item. I'm going to be a better Dad, What
does that mean? I'm going to be a better patriot at,
a better civic American.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
What does that mean?
Speaker 7 (26:57):
Does it mean you're going to become a precinct chairman?
Because just this amorphous idea, without any guardrails, without any parameters,
without any details, any structure, I'm going to be better
at You're gonna forget people of action understand that. I think, perhaps,
if not the most powerful, the most poignant moment for
(27:21):
me was Charlie's pastor, Rob McCoy, who used the opportunity
to save souls for God.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Here's what he said, Where the bullseye is and where
the arrow lands that's called the sin distance? How far
are you falling from perfection? And there are none righteous?
Speaker 1 (27:38):
No, not one.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
We've all missed the mark the bulls eye, and we
try to get to God by our efforts, but there
is no effort that will bring us back into the
presence of a righteous God. You see, the wages of
sin is death. Charlie knew this, and at an early
age he entrusted his life to the savior of the world.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Jesus came to this earth.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Was tempted in all ways, yet was without sin, was
crucified upon a cross.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
His blood was poured out.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Because blood must be shed for the remission of sins,
and his death upon that cross was sufficient for all
the world's sins, but only efficient for those who, like Charlie,
would receive him as their savior. Jesus has come to
seek and save that which is lost. And I would
(28:27):
say this to all of you. The Lord loves you.
He wants to save you. He wants to give you
a new life. He wants to cover the multitude of
your sins by the blood he shed upon the cross.
(28:48):
The Bible says, if you believe in your heart and
you confess with your tongue Jesus's Lord, you will be
saved to the glory of the Father. You see, Charlie
looked at politics as an on ramp to Jesus. He
knew if he could get all of you rowing in
the streams of liberty, you come to its source.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
And that's the Lord.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
In the time I have remaining, I'm going to ask
all who profess Christ as their savior to remain seated.
The Bible says, if you profess me before Man, I'll
profess you before my Father in Heaven. It requires an
act of faith.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
You stand.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
That's what Charlie did every day on campus with death threats.
He stood because he knew in whom he had trusted.
And he wants to give you the gift of the
why and what he did, and that is his Savior, Jesus.
While believers are seated, if there's any in this room
and across the globe that would desire to receive Jesus
as their saviors, Charlie did as a young man and
(29:54):
now is in the presence of his Savior. I'm going
to ask you to put action to your faith, and
I'd ask you to stand right now to receive the Lord.
Don't be a shamed.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Stand amen, Amen, Amen. The Bible says. The Bible says that.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
When one sinner gives their heart to the Lord, the
angels in heaven rejoice.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
And I got to tell you there's one up there
right now.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
Charlie gergis stoked and he's excited about your commitment to
a savior.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
For this remaining moment.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
If you've given your heart to the Lord and someone
has seated next to you, I want that person who's
a believer to stand and pray with you, and please
up on the screen. I want you to take a
picture of this QR code. We are going to give
you everything you need to walk this walk with Christ.
Faith comes from hearing and hearing from the Word of God,
and it's time to get into a Bible believing church
(31:06):
and pastors. If you didn't want to give Charlie Kirk
the time of day, these folks are gonna be showing
up at your church and they're there.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Because of His life. God lets you and may the
Lord keep you. Amen. Jan Hells has lit for kilty.
Thank you, goodnight,
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