PM Show Hr 2 | Vance: Those Who Weaponize the Gov. Must Face Justice, Not Just Words

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. The
Michael Arry Show is on the air.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
It's Charlie from BlackBerry Smoke. I can feel a good
one coming on. It's the Michael Berry Show. Missed it
several times.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
I'll say it again because it's important. Charlie Kirk's passing.
If nothing changes, will have been in vain and I
think we're missing a great opportunity. Since Charlie Kirk's life
was marked by action, I think it's important that we

(00:52):
ourselves take up our own cross in our own corner
of the world. I spoke to a group two days
days ago. The Attorney General of Texas, Ken Paxton, came in.
His daughter works for Charlie Kirk and now TPUSA, and
he's had a lot of involvement with TPUSA. Sort Of

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funny because John Cornyn was desperate. Our Republican senator from Texas.
There's Ted Cruz and John Cornyn, and Cornyn is up
for election and he's going to be beaten in the
spring primary. And Cornyn was desperately trying to tie himself
in some way to Charlie Kirk upon his passing. The

(01:36):
only problem is not only were they not friends, Charlie
Kirk had called out John Cornyn repeatedly in writing on
Twitter and how he needed to go because he was
selling us down the river, and so to the extent
that people have become aware of that, now Cornyn's actions

(01:58):
seem really weird, but no less weird than John Cornyn
trying to pretend that he's good friends with Donald Trump
when he has worked behind the scenes to undercut Trump
again and again and again. Well, we've we've got this
this chess game going on. There's a game of chicken.
It's being played here. It's it's it's it's intrigued at

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the highest level when it goes like this, John Cornyn is.
John Cornyn wanted to be Senate Majority Leader, but the
other Senators didn't want him As Senate Majority Leader. John
Cornyn has sold his soul for some semblance of power
the entirety of his life. He is a milk toast,

(02:43):
ambitious fellow who just kind of floats with the wind
because all he really wants is to be in a
position of authority. It would, it would, it would satisfy
his his ego and his need to be a person
of great influence. Now he doesn't care what that influence
is applied to Ward. That doesn't matter to him, just
that he be in the position and people be coming

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to him for favors. So Cornyn is up for reelection,
and this is a guy who's been very unpopular in
Texas for a long time for selling us out in
much the same way that Murkowski does and Susan Collins
does and Mitch McConnell does, and we've had enough, and the.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Polls show that he is really struggling.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
So DC has poured a bunch of money into his
campaign and they're using that money to trash the attorney
general who's running against him.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Ken Paxton as he's.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
A bad guy. He's a bad guy. He's a bad guy.
He's divorced. His wife, you know, is upset because they're divorced.
And I would have told you twenty years ago that
campaign would work. That was that was kind of a
classic Karl Rove campaign, And that type of campaign worked
because you would tell social conservatives, this man is not godly,

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this man is not good, this man must be and
nobody ever got into what actions elected officials took. You
just have guys like Mike Pence who walk around claiming
to be very righteous, with their shoes shined very very bright,
and they're tired, always perfectly tired. And you know, they
get a haircut once a week, so that always looks

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real nice, and maybe their nails are done and they
stand really wrecked and they're you know, they are righteous,
and you're supposed to think they're there for you, and
then when you need them most, they sell you out.
Mitt Romney another great example. They always have the right
button on their laptal, they always have the right look.
They always have a press release that's sent out by

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somebody they don't even know about it. Who is that
is in touch with the base. And unless you start
paying close attention to what they're doing, you don't see
how they're selling you out. And it's hard to convince
people who won't pay close attention that that person is
selling you out because, well, he came to my church,
or he came to our July four parade, or he
came and spoke at our university. He's got to be

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a good guy because he said he loved God and country. Well,
he's voted against Trump every chance he gets, and so
especially on important matters. So you've got Cornyan now who
is scared to death that Trump is going to endorse Paxton.
And Trump likes Paxton a lot. You've got Cornin scared
to death that's going to happen. So I am told

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that he has threatened Trump that if Trump endorses Paxton
in his primary, then Cornyan will work against Trump in
the Senate to kill some of his bills. Well, if
you look at how many important things have happened already
this year, where jd Vance has had to be the
fifty first vote because it's split fifty to fifty. If

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Cornin goes the other direction, because you've already lost McConnell, Murkowski,
and Collins and sometimes ran Paul depending on the issue,
the president can't get his agenda passed, he can't get
his Senate appointments nominations, he can't get them confirmed. So
Cornyn has some authority there, some power. But Trump is

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not a guy who likes to be bullied. So if
that happens, I have to think that Trump comes out
and says John Cornyn is working against us, he's voting
against us, he's whipping votes against us because I wouldn't
endorse him for the Senate. And so now that hurts

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Cornyn with the March primary coming up, so he wants
to get He wants to keep Trump out of the
race and not endorse Paxton, and he has to use
what leverage he has. But if that becomes exposed and
it's called, that costs him the election. So this gets

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to be very interesting and can.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Show Michael Dairy show.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Jenie Vance said that those who weaponize the government have
to face real justice, not just words. This is true, folks,
this is true. You know, we talk about justice, but
it is not pretty. Some people are going to feel uneasy.
Some people are going to suggest that the system is

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being used against an individual and that this is political.
And look, everybody has a defense. Nobody wants to be charged.
But there is too little charging of public officials for
high crimes than too much. You should be on high

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alert when you serve in our government at the highest
levels that you could be charged.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
You should be.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
You should be worried with every move you make and
say could I defend this in a court of law?
And if not, don't do it. Jd Vance, Well, I
think the only thing the far left early response to
is power.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Jim.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
If I'm being honest, I wish that wasn't the case,
but it actually is, and so excuse me. The thing
that they're actually going to be responsive to is the
recognition that there are consequences on the other side.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
And this is why it's so.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Important and why the President is so insistent that we
actually take legal action against those who broke the law
on the Bide administration. If they get off scott free,
if they're never investigated, if they're never prosecuted when they
violated the law, then they're just going to come back
and do the exact same thing again. And there are
a few different ways, of course. So it's the big
tech companies that were censoring conservatives. They've got to know

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that's not going to be allowed and they're going to
be consequences for it. The banks, the President is really
preoccupied with this, and rightfully so. So many conservatives, so
many conservative nonprofits were deep bank they actually had their
money stolen from them by these big Wall Street institutions.
You've got to make sure that doesn't happen, and of
course you've got to pay the lawfare back in kinme,
You've got to say to the Comy's and the Brendans

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of the world of.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Course, you got to follow the law.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
You can only prosecute people when they actually broke the law.
But we know that a lot of people broke the
law in the last administration, and they've got to face
real justice, not just words, not just getting hauled before
committee on Capitol Hill. If people broke the law, they
have to actually be prosecuted for because they think that
if they do that, if they know that the consequence
for breaking the laws go to jail, then the next

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generation of Democrats they're going to be they're not going
to try that. The same thing they're not going to
try to throw Donald Trump in prison.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
It's true.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Being reported that Comy is facing an indictment for perjury
for his twenty to twenty testimony to Congress.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Well MSNBC had.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
To explain to its viewers as if they were children,
about the statute of limitations for perjury.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
Three sources familiar tell MSNBC former FBI Director James Comy
is expected to be indicted in the coming days. The
full extent of the charge is being prepared against Komy
is unclear. Joining us now. MSNBC Justice and Intelligence correspondent
Kendlanian and MSNBC senior investigative correspond at Carol Leneg Chris

(10:14):
o'larry Ashley Parker is still with us, Carol help us
understand the reporting.

Speaker 6 (10:19):
So, Katie, we have some sources to say that for
several weeks now the US Attorney's Office in the Eastern
District of Virginia, and actually in offices that are potentially
much further south than Alexandria, have been eyeing ways to
indict Komy, and they are getting very much closer the
statute of limits, forgive me rephrase. They are arguing that

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Comy there is evidence to suggest Comy lied to Congress
in his testimony on the Hill in September of twenty twenty.
And for viewers out in the audience who may not
be legally as nerdy as me and Ken, I'll just
say that there's a stat should limitations to charge people
with the crime of lying to Congress or perjury, and

(11:05):
that's five years. The five year statute.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Runs this month.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Comy is lucky that the statute only goes back five
years because he has been lying about the Russian hoax
for almost ten years. Here he is from twenty seventeen,
which of course is eight years ago.

Speaker 7 (11:30):
There should be no fuzz on this whatsoever. The Russians
interfered in our election during twenty sixteen cycle. They did
it with purpose, they did it with sophistication, they did
it with overwhelming technical efforts, and it was an active
measures campaign driven from the top of that government.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
There is no fuzz on that.

Speaker 7 (11:49):
It is a high confidence judgment of the entire intelligence community,
and the members of this committee have seen the intelligence.
It's not a close call that happened. That that's about
as unfake as you can possibly get and is very,
very serious, which is why it's so refreshing to see
a bipartisan focus on that, because this is about America,
not about any particular party. So that was a hostile

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act by the Russian government against this country, Yes, sir, In.

Speaker 8 (12:15):
That timeframe, there were more than the DNC and the
d tripleC that were targets.

Speaker 7 (12:20):
Correct, there was a massive effort to target government and
non governmental near governmental agencies like nonprofits.

Speaker 8 (12:28):
What would be the estimate of how many entities out
there the Russians specifically targeted in that timeframe.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
It's hundreds.

Speaker 7 (12:36):
I suppose it could be more than a thousand, but
it's at least hundreds.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Russia always said, whatever they're claiming you're doing is what
they are doing. Remember when Jim Comey begged people to
vote for Joe Biden in twenty twenty four, and of
course they smothered by the squeezed him out of the race.
His basis was, if Trump wins, he's going to go

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after the FBI and the Department of Justice.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Not the FBI. It's you, Jim Comey and the others
who along with you, were involved in this hoax.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
When you think about a second Trump administration, what do
you think the implications would be for the FBI?

Speaker 7 (13:22):
Oh? Serious, for the Just Department and the FBI, because
Trump is coming for those institutions. He knows their power,
and I think he has regrets that he didn't work
hard enough to corrupt them last time. So he's coming
for them, and that's a danger for all Americans. He's
going to put people in positions in those organizations. He
didn't have all stars the last time. He'll have the
bottom of the barrel this time, but people who will

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want to do his will, and that should weary every American.
This election matters because of a reason like that. People
have to participate. You cannot sit on the sideline. I
don't care how you feel about Joe Biden, you must
vote for him because the consequences on the other side
are too severe.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Had Toolsey Gabbered not released the documents, we wouldn't know
what all they've done. They never believed he would come
in and assemble this team of Cash Betel and Toolsey
Gabbert and exposed all of its before today from Houston

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media that have now been picked up nationally that Joanne
or Joni Chesimard has died in Cuba at the age
of seventy eight.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
She was.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Known within certain leftist circles as Asata Shakur. She was
a member of the Black Liberation Army, another of these
violent black groups, who was convicted in nineteen seventy seven
for having murdered a New Jersey State trooper four years earlier.

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She was given a life sentence, and in nineteen seventy
nine she managed to escape, one of the few people
to escape from prison and stay on the run for
any extended period of time.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
In her case, she made it almost fifty years.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
In nineteen eighty four, she was granted political asylum by
Castro and was a fugitive from US law for these
last forty one years. In two thousand, what did I
See thirteen, the FBI added her to its most Wanted
Terrorist list, the first woman ever included on that list,

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and at the time of adding her name to the list,
the reward for information leading to her capture was two
million dollars.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Well, she is dead now.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Four months ago, Jim Comey was on msnb's with Nicole
Wallace where he claimed the FBI and DOJ weren't good
enough to get freaked out over. Well, I'm betting he's
freaked out now you've.

Speaker 9 (16:11):
Been under investigation. I don't know if people like Miles
Taylor and Chris Krebs ever have there a whole lot
of people being disappeared from the streets for their political
speech around the war in Gaza? I mean, what is
it like to be under investigation and how do people
withstand that if that is indeed what's being ushered in?

Speaker 2 (16:30):
It's hard.

Speaker 7 (16:31):
It gets easier than more times you do it. Unfortunately,
I have experience. But you have to do two things
at the same time that seem contradictory. You have to
be clear eyed about the threat to you. If you're
being threatened with physical violence, or you're being threatened with
an investigation and to your family. You have to take
prudent steps to protect yourself, but you have to do
something else that's hard. You can't overstate the threat right

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when you're being targeted. There's a tendency to see the
boogeyman under every bed that you sit on.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
You can give them that space in your.

Speaker 7 (16:59):
Head because in some context that's their.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Goal, is to freak you out. And so what I
advise people to do is, look.

Speaker 7 (17:06):
The rule of law is still our saving grace. We
have a judiciary in this country that will support the truth.
Take solace in that. Take prudent steps, but don't freak out.
These people are not good enough for you to be
freaked out about. Protect yourself, be measured about the effect
the threat has on you, and know that you're going
to be okay.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Maybe don't freak out.

Speaker 9 (17:27):
It should be the next message you post.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
The reason a special counsel.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Was appointed to investigate the Russian collusion HOES is because
Kmy was angry that Trump had fired him. So Komy
leaked a memo of a conversation he had with Trump
to the New York Times, and Komy was proud of it.

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As Tom Elliott has reported, noting the quote, It's true
I leaked it. I gave that unclassified memo to my
friend and asked him to give it to a reporter.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
That is entirely appropriate.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Saying it is entirely appropriate does not make it entirely
appropriate or from it. So it is laughable when Mark Elias,
the lawyer who runs around trying to overturn the elections
of a majority of voters with all sorts of fraud

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and gamesmanship, told Michael Steele, a guy who ascended to
being the lieutenant governor of the state of Maryland, on
the basis of I'm black, but I'm a Republican. That'll
be really good for the party. And then he became
the chairman of the party and people finally saw that
this was a self serving man of no conservative value.
But Republicans were so eager, as they often are, eaten

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up with a white guilt trip, to put a black
person in charge, because somehow that would show blacks that
we love blacks and they should vote Republican. Blacks don't
need you to put unqualified or blacks that are actually
liberal at heart in leadership positions to get them to
vote there. They need you to continue to be the

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straight arrow showing the way, showing decency and honor and
opportunity and equality, and blacks who are open minded will
see that and gravitate to it. If you play the
same DEI games Democrat party is playing, then there isn't
a dime's worth of difference between you and them, in
which case why should they join your party anyway? You know,

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sometimes it's lonely being righteous. Sometimes it's lonely doing the
right thing that may not pure to be popular. But
look at how many blacks have now gravitated to Donald
Trump over the positions he's taken and more importantly, the
hell he's been put through. So here is Mark Elias

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telling Michael Steele of MSNBC that Jim Comey is the
victim of the weaponization of government. Again, whatever they accuse
you of is what they themselves have done. Great rushling
Baugh taught me that one.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Look.

Speaker 10 (20:27):
I think that we need to recognize that James Coney
is the victim of the weaponization of government. I don't
like James Coney. James Comey put his finger on the
scale to hurt Hillary Clinton's chances of being president in
twenty sixteen. That is my opinion. So I am anything
but an apologist for James Comee. But James Comy is
being prosecuted because Donald Trump doesn't like him. John Bolton,

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another figure I'm not a big fan of, is being
investigated because Donald Trump does not like him. And the
only thing that I differ with the panel you had
on before is it is cold comfort to say that
in the end these folks may get acquitted. It is
cold comfort to say that they will bear the cost
and the reputational harm and the sleepless nights of an investigation,

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an indictment, a prosecution, but that in the end justice
may be done. When justice is done, at that point,
it is no longer justice.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Okay.

Speaker 10 (21:17):
The fact is that the former US Attorney acting US
Attorney for Virginia who resigned or was fired, is no
hero in my book. Why did he agree to open
this investigation? Why have people in that office and in
other offices around this country humored don Donald Trump have
humored Pambondi and engaged in these witch hunt, these political

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prosecutions that if they had done under the Biden administration,
would have been a national scandal and a national outrage.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
And now we.

Speaker 10 (21:45):
Say, well, as long as they are not ultimately convicted,
justice is done.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
That is wrong, Okay.

Speaker 10 (21:50):
The fact is that justice is done when career prosecutors
and political appointees don't bend.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
It's not the ball's right there. And say, apply that
now to what was done to Trump.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Apply that now to the little old ladies, to the
disabled veterans who walked through the capitol on January sixth
when the doors were opened. By that we now know
almost three hundred FBI agents with another four hundred surrounding.
They were embedded there, their faces were covered. They were saying,

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let's storm the capitol, Let's storm the Capitol, when other
people were saying, no, we're not here to storm the capitol. Legitimate,
authentic people were saying no, no, no, while the while
the FEDS try to get them to do it, and
many of those people were prosecuted, in their lives destroyed.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Oh, justice is coming. Justice is coming. I mean, you're
not gonna like it. You've got dumb Michael Berry Show.
Americans have felt so betrayed.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
The news this week that perhaps thailandov is dangerous for
pregnant women that revelation is less disturbing than how many
people have argued against it. Over all this time. We
come into this world innocent and pure. It's not until

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we learn about half truths and manipulation, subjugation of entire
of human beings or entire tribes or groups, not just
limited to Africans. This has happened throughout history. It's dark,

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it's dirty, and your average American has every right to
assume that the people in positions of power and authority
and influence in the country care about them and this
country first. And yet it appears not only do they

(24:08):
not care about Americans first, they don't care about Americans
at all. When you see how many doctors continue to
push their patients into the vaccine after they were aware
your likelihood of dying of COVID unless you were morbidly

(24:28):
obese or very old, the immuno compromised was so small
as to mean that taking any shot was not worth
the risk. Add to that that they encourage they continue
to push people to do that when we started seeing
that there were side effects including death to the shot.

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So now you're risking disability or death in taking this
shot when we know that you're taking a shot to
avoid something that's not so bad. It's just the flu.
You don't want it, but it's not going to kill you.
And then after finding out that the shot itself could

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kill you, we found out the shot didn't work, and
yet they continued to push. Well that's scientific fact now
as well, how could it? It was called operation warp speed.
It was done so fast as to avoid any tests,

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and when tests were finally done, those tests revealed how
dangerous this thing was, the horrible side effects of myocarditis,
the mRNA, and what it did to degrade your body's
entire health structure. And yet they continued, and yet they continued.

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You know, there was a study, the Tuskegee Syphilis Study,
where American blacks in Alabama were intentionally infected was sephilis
to study it. Imagine finding out that you are suffering
from something that someone gave you intentionally, and that to

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someone who you had been taught to trust, someone wearing
a white robe of power and influence and knowledge and healing.
Americans have been exposed to these sorts of things. We
can take the COVID and all of the things that

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go with that. We can look at the lies that
dragged our boys into wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. We
can look at lies on January sixth and how many
people were ensnared in that, all in an attempt to

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besmirch Trump, in anyone who's who supports him. You look
at all of the lies that have been told by
Barack Obama, by Hillary Clinton, by Joe Biden, by Kamala Harris,
by Fauci, by Comy, and it's enough to disappoint and

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even depress you. But much like we said of Charlie
Kirk's funeral, that's the taps, that's the sadness, that is
the darkness descending. But as I quoted earlier this week,
and I quoted speaking to young people at a new

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TPA TPUSA chapter at Stratford High School that some liberals
try to get shut down, Watkinson wrote, it is better
to light a candle ramon than to curse the darkness.
That has been attributed to a Chinese proverb and a
number of other sources, but the first sourcing of it

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goes to Watkinson. I don't know that it matters who
said it. I think it's great advice. It is better
to light a candle than to curse the darkness. Let
me wrap up this week by saying, we do have
bonus podcasts that we'll be dropping this weekend. We invite

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you to enjoy those. They will say bonus podcast, which
means they didn't air earlier in the week. We cut
them just for the weekend because folks ask us for those.
But let me close the week with this, when darkness
descended after a young man was assassinated before our very eyes,
and we watched his widow, his young bride widow and

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their children. In the hopes and dreams of young people
for a better America, which were then dismissed as they're hateful.
There are these are the best and brightest of our country,
young people with aspirations of a great nation of people engaged,
and the public will being done, and opportunity and equality

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of a great nation, most of them people of faith.
And in the midst of all that, it was all dashed.
It was all dashed with the pull of a trigger
of a very old rifle. Or however you think he
was assassinator, whatever you believe, We know that Charlie Kirk

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ended up dead, and however that happened, and whatever you believe,
I really don't. It doesn't matter to me. What I
do know is that was a darkness that descended on
our nation and.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
On the world.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Other than curse that darkness, rather than be coward into hiding,
I saw a nation led not by middle aged or
older folks. I have watched young people come out of

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the woodworks fearlessly saying we will not be silenced. We're
going to make this country as great as its promise.
And so I end this week in a world of
light from the candles of these young people. Encourage them, folks.
If they live under your roof, encourage them, Engage them.

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If they're on a college campus, encourage them, engage them.
If you don't have any, maybe you have grandkids, call
up your local TPUSA.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Support those folks.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
I have no formal association with them, but I love
the work they're doing. I think it's inspiring. I think
they found a moment, and I hope they can't because
they've captured the hearts and minds of our young people,
and that gives me hope for our future. The most
I've had in a very long comportment

Speaker 10 (31:07):
Sass for good, thank you, and good night.