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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time. Time, time, time, luck and load. The
Michael Very Show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Are you all ready to see your fixer uppers? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Okay, whoa.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Beautiful couldn't look any better in my opinion.
Speaker 5 (00:25):
Hey guys, finally you look to see your house.
Speaker 6 (00:29):
Okay, I'll look at these United States reminds us that
history is always being made with Morocco. We're off to
the People's House, the White House now under construction, a
project swirling in controversy.
Speaker 7 (00:45):
Well likely this is part of what Donald Trump has
been doing since day one of his presidency, running the
largest pay to play scheme in the history of the country,
and probably soliciting donations.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
From people who've got.
Speaker 7 (00:59):
Business before the United States government. And all of this
is going to have to be investigated. All of this
will have to be uncovered. It will, and these people
are going to be held accountable.
Speaker 8 (01:12):
There is a real problem in this country and most
Americans recognize it. When Bill Maher, a long time sort
of pseudo intellectual comedian talker podcasts are very influential on
the left, or was influential left now he's more influential
in the middle. When he starts calling out the Democrats.
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That was a good sign. But the fringe of the
Democrat Party, the far left, ideological wing, have captured the
party and driven out any moderate, any freethinking individual. And
so what they do in a moment like that is
they attack anyone who's trying to move the party back
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to the center. There will be those who will argue,
but relative to today, the Bill Clinton administration was much
more of a centrist administration. When he lost the assault
weapons issue, when he lost Americans, when he lost his
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core his base over that, when he lost in nineteen
ninety four, just as he had lost a decade before
in Arkansas over a license plate tax and I think
a phishing tax as well.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
He learned from that.
Speaker 8 (02:37):
He learned from it, and he went to What's the
old boy that taught him to triangulate Morris? Nick Morris,
and Morris taught him how to get back to the middle.
Because the middle is a wider swath of America than
people realize. We think it's all the far right and
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the far left, but actually what's being called for right.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Is actually middle America.
Speaker 8 (03:06):
Middle America does not want boys in the girl's locker room,
and the fringe left doesn't understand that we've got that
going for us, but the fringe left has taken over
their party and they're not allowing any moderate influences in there,
and they're scared. Kathy Huckel doesn't want to be campaigning
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for zorn Mundanni. That's why she didn't do it first.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Hakem.
Speaker 8 (03:32):
Jeffries doesn't want to have had to had endorsed him
as he did this past weekend, but he has to
or they'll run somebody against him. Chuck Schumer didn't want
to drag out the shutdown because he's losing support every day,
but he didn't want to be seen this week because
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he doesn't want AOC to run against him in the Senate.
Schumer's not doing what's best for the country or even
what's best for the party. He's scared to death. He's
got AOC nipping at his heels. Nancy Pelosi's got an
opponent in her primary, a real opponent, a state senator.
When Bernie Sanders came after Hillary in twenty sixteen, in
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that primary, he pushed her to the left. He got
forty three percent if I remember correctly, in Iowa. In Iowa,
Bernie Sanders proved that there was a far left, progressive
element of the Democrat Party that was growing in power
and influence, and it was being funded by a leftist influence,
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and it was recruiting.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
A coalition of very radical.
Speaker 8 (04:48):
Elements, Muslims, illegals, transgenders, and they were taking over the
party up and down the line.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
So the old already have kind of.
Speaker 8 (05:00):
Retired labor folks, they were being pushed out and they
were aging out, they were phasing out, and so the
Democrat Party was changing overnight. And the completion of that happened.
They lost in two thousand, they lost in two thousand
and four. By two thousand and eight, it was a
very different Democrat Party than Bill Clinton had left it.
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And that's the year Dashel sent his resources in for
the Obama machine. They brought in young folks, they brought
in technology, and that was the moment the Democrat Party
lurched to the left, from which it has never recovered
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that Obama lurched to the left in eight and twelve
and then sixteen. Hillary is not nearly as far left
as Barack Obamas. That's a fact. People don't want to
hear that because they hate her.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
And I got that.
Speaker 8 (06:00):
She's very hateable. I don't like her. She's not a
good person. But Obama can be worse than her. That
those two things can be true.
Speaker 9 (06:09):
She can be.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Terrible and not quite as terrible as Obama.
Speaker 8 (06:14):
Oh you like Hillary? Now, no, no, there's a little nuance.
Calm down, and no, I'm gonna hear it. But it's true. Well,
when she didn't win in sixteen, then you had some
elements coming out, like Elizabeth Warren. Elizabeth Warren comes out,
and so she's going to get the angry leftist. You know,
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she's American Indiana, these radical progressive nutjobs. And by the way,
we're seeing Elizabeth warrens on school boards across the country,
on mud districts, on city councils, this sort of hysterical
white liberal woman who doesn't know what she stands for.
It changes every day, but she knows that she wants
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to hug something that the rest of us think is weird.
So it might be boys in women's sports, it might
be boys in the girls locker room. Her mind is
absolutely open, wide open to anything.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Just tell her what to say.
Speaker 8 (07:10):
Marxism, socialism, communism, transgenderism, chemical castration, tax, the rich doesn't matter.
She's the Mary Ann Williams, and she's she's the she's
very very sorry that white people are so racist, and
she's willing to kill all the white people. She has to,
not because she hates them, but it's the right thing
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to do because she's read a book and she went
to a conference and she has now come to realize
her own privilege.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
And so if we have to kill all the white people,
that's just what we have to do.
Speaker 8 (07:41):
And and that's you need to know black people that
you can vote for her, because she's willing to do that,
and she's one of the good white people. And that
that type of candidate came out. You had Pete Buttergig,
you had Amy klobschar, you had Kamala Harris. And so
the Democrat Party, the big boys came in and said, look,
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we're going to lose to Trump. We can control Biden.
He's barely alive. We can control him. And so they
pushed him across the finish line.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
But that was the end of that. Then twenty twenty four,
of course she got Kamala Harris.
Speaker 8 (08:19):
Kamala Harris was a fringe candidate, but she never actually
excited the nuts from wit very.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
How crazy is Zorai Mundani. Let me give an example.
Speaker 8 (08:31):
He has a plan to make New York's buses safer.
He says, you know how, take away the fair box.
Nobody will pay to get on the buses. He'll just
be free. Now why do that, Well, because one of
the problems now is it people who don't want to pay.
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They're jumping on the bus and causing problems. So we'll
just let him have it for free. This well, let
me play the audio. This is four h nine.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
You have a farebox on a bus.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
It increases a sight of tension, of conflict, of assaults
when you reduce when you remove that farebox. Rather, what
you find is a safer experience, not just for the
riders but also for the operators.
Speaker 8 (09:16):
See, if people don't have to pay for things, then
you won't have conflict. This is the same mindset in
San Francisco where they said, as long as you steal
less than a thousand dollars, we won't stop you and
we won't prosecute you. Guess what happened. They drove retail
out of San Francisco. Well, if we don't arrest you,
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then we don't have conflict. You see, that's what this
is about. This is who this guy is. Now here's
the worst part. We can blast this to every person
in New York, not our listeners, but the other folks
who are voting for him, and they can hear this
and they go, well, that's kind of true. I don't
want to pay for it. There's a great life that's
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always stuck with me. By Andrew Fraser Tyler, and he
said a democracy self governance cannot exist as a permanent
form of government. It can only exist until the voters
discover that they can vote themselves largesse.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
From the public treasury. From that moment on.
Speaker 8 (10:29):
The majority always votes for the candidates promising the most
benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a
democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by
a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations
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has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through
this sequence, from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith
to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance,
from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to apathy, from apathy
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to dependence, from dependence back into bondage. I will read
that opening line again. A democracy cannot exist as a
permanent form of government. It can only exist until the
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voters discover that they can vote themselves larges from the
public treasury. Now, I know what you're thinking, Well, Michael,
we're not a democracy anyway. For the purposes of this discussion,
we are democracy is direct self rule. We are a
democratic republic, a governing system where we elect the folks
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who make the decisions as our proxy so we can
get back to work. For the sake of conversation and
most we are a democracy. I know people love to
say we're not. You're right, we don't have a direct
vote on everything other than referenda and things like that,
but we do have self governance. Well, but they don't
do what we tell them to do, Michael. There's a
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whole set of reasons behind that as well. But be
that as it may, A democracy cannot exist as a
permanent form of government. It can only exist until the
voters discovered that they can vote themselves large at from
the public treasury. This is why this right here is
why socialism always appeals, especially to young people. I don't
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have to work hard like my daddy did. I don't
work hard like my mommy did. I want to do
to that. Just give it to me. We're rich, just
give it to me. Let's go back to twenty twenty one.
Zoron Mondani, who's elected to the New York State Assembly.
He lamented that they needed to elect more socialists if
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they were going to reach their ultimate goal of seizing
the means of production. This should frighten you because this
man's about to be the next mayor of the City
of New York. Seizing the means of production means taking
over private property, which he's made clear he will do businesses,
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and of course the people there, you can tell the
people there, hey, he's going to take private property.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah, we're going to.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Get it to be a very lonely and isolating experience.
I'm very lucky that I have five other DSA endorsed
comrades who were with me in the Assembly, in the
State Senate. But for example, before we were elected, Julia
Salazar was an office for two years without a single
of our socialists endorsed by DSA and understanding it then
makes it much easier to run a campaign then will
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be built around raising class consciousness because you will run
the campaign challenging current status quo and showcasing through our
critique how this is an issue of capitalism.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
So there are one hundred.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
And seven Democrats in the New York State Assembly out
of one hundred and fifty assembler people. I know those
hundred and seven Democrats. There are six DSA ignors elected
and seven DSA members. You have the seventh person who's
the DSA member, though she wasn't unversed by Essa, her
name is Jessica vinzalz roll Us. We do clearly do
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not have the numbers as they are in this moment
to win the radical legislation that we need to brink
balt and begin to believe that these kinds of results
are sufficient.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
We have to continue to.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Elect more socialists and we have to ensure that we
are unapologetic about our socialism. Now, we had an academic
boycott campaign, and one of the aspects of that was
to fights to stop studying abroad at universities in Israel
that were complicit in the occupation, many of which through
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the development of weapons technology for the ideas. Now, by
bringing the issue of Israel Palestine apartheid to Voden. You
bring it frontom center, it's harder to ignore then making
sure that we move to dismantle that relationship. Those are
things that you can do as a legislator, right, you
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can pack like, for example, Governor Cole has an executive
order barring you know, I think New York State from
doing business with any company suspected of sympathizing of a BDS.
One thing I can do as a legislator is once
we build up enough, you know, build up a large
enough coalition for this, we overturned that executive order. But
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I sincerely believe in this political project. I sincerely believe
in socialism. For me, it was Palestine that brought me
into this movement. It is such a look, it can
be such a lonely experience to be a socialist, And
it was for me country because my journey, as weren't
alluded to it and referred to organizing, began at my
college campus with students for Justice Palestine to power this
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journey in understanding that it is socialism that we are
fighting for at the moment right now, right if we're
talking about the cancelation of student debt, if we're talking
about medicare, for all. You know, these are issues which
have the groundswallow of popular support across this country. But
then there are also other issues that we firmly believe it,
whether it's BDS right or whether it's the end goal
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of of season, the mets of production, you've.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Got Michael Berry show.
Speaker 8 (16:38):
What's happening in New York right now is an inflection
point for the Democrats. It has put them into a
situation they don't want to be in. They won't flirt
with the radical left, but pretend like the radical left
is not driving their party, and it's not until, for instance,
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one of their candidates, the Attorney general candidate in Virginia,
texts a fellow Democrat and friend that he wants his
opponent's children to be murdered in front of his opponent
and his opponent's wife so that they can suffer watching
their children die. And now Democrats are being asked, hey,
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are you still supporting him, and they go, yeah, we are, actually,
because all we care about is winning. And once you
understand that, you realize they're not offended by anything, they're
not bothered by anything, they're not opposed in They just
want to win elections in half power period, end of story.
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Whatever they tell you they care about, because you care about.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Those things, they don't.
Speaker 8 (17:53):
They don't care about no kings, they don't care about authoritarianism,
they don't care about any of that.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
But they think you do.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
So by saying that, they figure they can get you
over to their side. But when see, the crazies are
supposed to be the foot soldiers. But as with every revolution,
at some point one of the foot soldiers decides he's
going to displace the leader of the junta. This is
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Kadafi taking over the military in Libya. This is edy,
I mean, assassinating the leader and taking over himself. First
they take over the military, then they take over the government. Well,
in this case you've got the Ratic And by the way,
this was what happened in Russia. It's a fascinating story.
The very people who were the part of the revolution,
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once they took over from the czar, they killed all
of them because they didn't want them turning on the
new power force. So you've got these crazies that Mamdani
has created this environment. So you've got aoc out there,
and you've got Bernie out there, and now the Democrat
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Party is in danger. You've got guys like Schumer, who's
not been able to do anything before an hour with
the shutdown, because if he is perceived as weak to Trump,
the Democrat Party doesn't want him to be responsible and compromise.
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The Democrat Party wants him to do radical things, and
so he has to keep looking radical when what he
wants to do is in this thing, because it's destroying
the Democrat Party. But a New York Democrat is very
different than the candidates trying to win swing districts in
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Kansas or Texas or Louisiana. So they're being dragged to
the far left extreme by the New York Democrats. And
so the Mamdani case, they're saying, endorse him or don't
are you with us? And if you're not, we're coming
after you. So the Pelosis and the Hakim Jeffries and
all these it's putting them in a real pickle. And
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then you look at their rallies. First of all, there's
nobody white there. It's just a bunch of angry immigrants screeching.
And then there's aoc up there and she is she
is completely an actress. She is playing the angry eva
perone ready to slaughter everybody who opposes her as the
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you know, as the as the leader of the revolution.
So here she is at the Mamdani rally. And my
favorite thing about this is if you're around somebody who's.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Drunk and you you say, hey, Bob, we need to
get you a ride home. You're drunk. Oh, drumk diver.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
The one thing they will not tolerate is you saying
they're drunk, and the drunker they are, the more true.
That is, well, that's true. In this case, AOC says,
they say we're crazy. We're not crazy. They're crazy. Uh,
that's pretty much how we know you're crazy.
Speaker 10 (21:22):
But we must remember in a time such as this,
we are not the crazy ones New York City. We
are not the outlandish ones New York City. They want
us to think we are crazy. We are saying.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
You remember the scene in one floor of the Cuckoo's Nests.
Speaker 8 (21:48):
I don't want his or his or his or his
or his or yours?
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Do you understand them?
Speaker 11 (22:00):
I want my cigarettes, miss Ratchard, I want my cigarettes.
Speaker 8 (22:05):
I want mine, missus Ratchord.
Speaker 11 (22:07):
What gives you the tam right to keep fe with
cigarettes piled up.
Speaker 12 (22:12):
On your dish?
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Let's just sweeze out of pat only when you feel
like a hunt the wretched. Yes, mister Cheswick, I asked
you a question.
Speaker 13 (22:25):
I heard your question, mister Cheswick, and I will answer
your question as soon as you've calmed down.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 8 (22:38):
If you watched that movie and it had the impact
on you that it did me and other people in
my generation, when you refer to somebody as nurse Ratchet,
I don't know that there is a worse and so
you can throw at them. I really don't.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
So let's go back to AOC just being screeching crazy.
Speaker 10 (23:01):
But we must remember in a time such as this,
we are not the crazy ones New York City. We
are not the outlandish ones New York City. They want
us to think we are crazy, we are sane.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
Is this a Mamdani rally or a gathering at the nuthouse?
It's hard to tell when aocs on the microphone, it
really is.
Speaker 10 (23:34):
But we must remember in a time such as this,
we are not the crazy ones New York City. We
are not the outlandish ones New York City.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Why does she always call out to New York City?
She thinks she's running for the Senate, running for the Senate.
Doesn't she know she's in the Oregon State Hospital? Are
you sure? Charlie's going on about his cigarettes again. I
want no cigarettes, mis Ritchard.
Speaker 13 (24:00):
Secrets.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I want on.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Bestreadship.
Speaker 10 (24:05):
They want us to think we are crazy.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Streadship.
Speaker 10 (24:08):
They want us to think we are crazy.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Stredship.
Speaker 10 (24:11):
They want us to think we are crazy.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
They want us to think we are crazy. They want
us to think we are crazy. They want us to
think we are crazy.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
They want us to think we are crazy. But we're
the sane ones.
Speaker 8 (24:50):
That's exactly what you would say if you're crazy. I
don't feel the need to protest the I'm not crazy enough.
Speaker 14 (25:03):
We're gonna add a little bit about these war houses
I know all about.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Ramon wants to know what around the world is.
Speaker 14 (25:08):
Whistling bungholes, spleen splitters, whisker biscuits, honkey riders, hooskerdoos hoosker
don'ts nips and dazers, whether without the scooter stick or
one single whistling kiddy Jason.
Speaker 9 (25:22):
Dehumanizing rhetoric of Adolf Hitler is once again alive and
well on a national political stage, this time, of course,
in the United States.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
This time given life by.
Speaker 9 (25:33):
Former presidents and current Republican presidential front runner Donald Trump.
Speaker 15 (25:37):
A lot of people have tried to draw similarities between
Mussolini and Hitler.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Springtime for Hitler and Germany.
Speaker 15 (25:49):
The difference, though, I think McDonald Trump even more dangerous,
and that is he has no philosophy, he believes.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
It sid For Hitler.
Speaker 11 (26:01):
He talks about the blood of America is being poisoned.
That going the same exact language used in Nazi Germany.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Springtime for him.
Speaker 13 (26:12):
The money Well, Hitler was duly elected right right, and
so all of a sudden, somebody with those tendencies, though
dictatorial authoritarian tendencies, would be like, Okay, we're gonna shut
this down. We're gonna throw these people in jail. And
they didn't usually telegraph that Trump is telling us what
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he intends.
Speaker 8 (26:42):
Senator Chris Murphy was on CNN. Do you remember Chris Murphy.
Chris Murphy was the head of the Biden campaign. He's
a Democrat senator from Connecticut, and he was on one
of the morning talk shows on the Sunday. Remember it
was a Sunday when they when they smothered Biden. And
then there was this who's going to be the nominee.
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And they go, oh, no, no, no, Biden's dad and uh,
Kamala is going to be the nominee. Barack said, so,
I mean, I'm sorry. Hillary said so, Well, Barack wasn't
ready for Kamala Harris. I think he had his own choice,
and so he didn't immediately get on board. But they said, oh,
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the Clintons, because there's a battle for who is going
to be the elder statesman of the Democrat Party. Hillary
and Bill want that, and Obama's kind of been the
de facto of that, and Obama sort of sort of
eased Bill and Hillary out, but the Clintons, the Clintons
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want to be that that force. The Clintons, especially Bill,
is more popular among a certain segment than Barack is.
Hillary is terribly unpopular and always has been, going back
to nineteen ninety two. I'll never forget when Bill Clinton said,
you know, we're a buy one, get one free, you
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get two for the price of one. I said at
the time, as did others, I don't think anybody wants
to for the price of one.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
They don't want her at all.
Speaker 8 (28:20):
And then she started pushing what became hillary Care, which
was Obamacare one point zero, and between that and the
gun grabbing in nineteen ninety four, Republicans took back the
House for the first time in forty or fifty years.
That's when Nut Gingrich's contract with America. Immediately, Bill Clinton
gets Dick Morris on the phone, and Morris creates the
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triangulation policy, moves him to the middle, runs him against
Bob Dole, terrible candidate in nineteen ninety six, and the
rest is history. Now, Dick Morris couldn't keep his pants
s it neither his nor Bill Clinton, so that wasn't
his fault. But in any case, Senator Chris Murphy was
on CNN This is the Guy on Sunday Morning, was saying,
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Joe Biden did a great job at the debate. He's
going to be our next president. He's gonna stay president.
He's as smart as ever, he's as clever as ever.
Twenty minutes later, Hey, Chris, they smothered him. Let's say
it's going to be come law. He goes on, he's
clearly shocked. Oh, well, I don't know what happened. Nobody
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asked me. No, no, they didn't. So he's trying to
get himself back into a leadership position. So he said
that Trump loves the shutdown because he ready for this.
Trump is trying to transition to a totalitarian state. They
are all so desperate to find something that will stick.
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First it was going to be the shutdown. See that
the conventional wisdom was always the shutdown by the Republicans
helped Clinton and hurt the Republicans. That's also when he
was putting his cigar in Monica Lewinsky's who But in
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any case, so the idea was they were going to
shut down the government. Then there was the no kings,
nothing they're doing. They just keep throwing They kep trying
to know. The newest one is he's trying to transition
us to a totalitarian state.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
I think one of the.
Speaker 12 (30:31):
Reasons that President trup President Trump is refusing to negotiate
is because he likes the fact that the government is closed,
because he thinks he can exercise king like powers, He
can open up the parts of the government that he wants,
he can pay the employees who are loyal to him.
I mean, this is a leader who is trying to
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transition our government from a democracy to something much closer
to a totalitarian state.
Speaker 8 (30:57):
He was also asked about the Senate Canada. The Senate
Canada from Maine, Graham Platner and his Nazi tattoo. I
keep getting people told me it's not a Nazi. It's
actually it's a Nazi tattoo. Just go ahead and know that.
So you called him real impressive, But since then we've
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discovered he has a Nazi tattoo. So you call Trump
a Nazi? And for what for moving the Israeli the
American embassy to Jerusalem, for bringing peace to the Middle East.
Now you got a real Nazi in your party and
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you got nothing to love for him. What's going on here?
Speaker 3 (31:44):
All right? So let's see how he responds to that.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Earlier this month, you called Maine Senate candidate Graham Platner impressive.
But since then, obviously a lot about him has come out,
including the fact that he had a Totin cough, which
is a skullhead's Nazi emblem for the SS, he had
one of those tattooed on his chest. He's denied that
he knew what the tattoo meant until recently, but CNN
(32:08):
did find several times he discussed the total cof emblem
in recent years and months. Do you still think Platner
is impressive?
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah, I saw that reporting.
Speaker 12 (32:18):
I think I'm meeting with him this upcoming week, so
I'm certainly interested to hear from him about it. I mean,
anytime you see something like that, you scratch your head.
But I've also listened to him talk about I mean,
the difficult time that he went through in his life,
and frankly, it's not unfamiliar to a lot of soldiers
who came back from service and had a very difficult
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time readjusting. So he sounds like a human being to me,
a human being who made mistakes, recognizes them, and is
very open about it. But yeah, certainly I'm looking forward
to sitting down and talking to him about it. He's, obviously,
you know, right now, performing very well in the polls
in Maine. He's talking a language that speaks to a
(33:05):
lot of middle class voters, a lot of Trump voters
that frankly are looking for Democrats that understand working class concerns,
and I'm looking forward to hearing from him.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
Democrats have been calling Republicans Nazis for years, but then
one of their own candidates decorates himself his body with
permanent Nazi imagery and.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Then all of a sudden, well, Nazis aren't so bad.
Speaker 8 (33:35):
Do you remember how they treated Elon Musk after he
did a wave that said, my heart goes out to you.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
They made that a Nazi. These people are nuts.
Speaker 12 (33:45):
What you saw is what you think you saw. Elon
Musk did Kyle Hitler salute? He did, and what you
were talking about is maybe the most dangerous moment in
modern American political history. Whereas there is a sense of
endorsements from Elon Musk and a sense of entitlement and immunity,
It's that time. Time, time, time, luck and load. The
Michael Very Show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Are you all ready to see your fixer uppers? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Okay, whoa.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Beautiful couldn't look any better in my opinion.
Speaker 5 (00:25):
Hey guys, finally you look to see your house.
Speaker 6 (00:29):
Okay, I'll look at these United States reminds us that
history is always being made with Morocco. We're off to
the People's House, the White House now under construction, a
project swirling in controversy.
Speaker 7 (00:45):
Well likely this is part of what Donald Trump has
been doing since day one of his presidency, running the
largest pay to play scheme in the history of the country,
and probably soliciting donations.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
From people who've got.
Speaker 7 (00:59):
Business before the United States government. And all of this
is going to have to be investigated. All of this
will have to be uncovered. It will, and these people
are going to be held accountable.
Speaker 8 (01:12):
There is a real problem in this country and most
Americans recognize it. When Bill Maher, a long time sort
of pseudo intellectual comedian talker podcasts are very influential on
the left, or was influential left now he's more influential
in the middle. When he starts calling out the Democrats.
(01:33):
That was a good sign. But the fringe of the
Democrat Party, the far left, ideological wing, have captured the
party and driven out any moderate, any freethinking individual. And
so what they do in a moment like that is
they attack anyone who's trying to move the party back
(01:57):
to the center. There will be those who will argue,
but relative to today, the Bill Clinton administration was much
more of a centrist administration. When he lost the assault
weapons issue, when he lost Americans, when he lost his
(02:18):
core his base over that, when he lost in nineteen
ninety four, just as he had lost a decade before
in Arkansas over a license plate tax and I think
a phishing tax as well.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
He learned from that.
Speaker 8 (02:37):
He learned from it, and he went to What's the
old boy that taught him to triangulate Morris? Nick Morris,
and Morris taught him how to get back to the middle.
Because the middle is a wider swath of America than
people realize. We think it's all the far right and
(02:58):
the far left, but actually what's being called for right.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Is actually middle America.
Speaker 8 (03:06):
Middle America does not want boys in the girl's locker room,
and the fringe left doesn't understand that we've got that
going for us, but the fringe left has taken over
their party and they're not allowing any moderate influences in there,
and they're scared. Kathy Huckel doesn't want to be campaigning
(03:29):
for zorn Mundanni. That's why she didn't do it first.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Hakem.
Speaker 8 (03:32):
Jeffries doesn't want to have had to had endorsed him
as he did this past weekend, but he has to
or they'll run somebody against him. Chuck Schumer didn't want
to drag out the shutdown because he's losing support every day,
but he didn't want to be seen this week because
(03:54):
he doesn't want AOC to run against him in the Senate.
Schumer's not doing what's best for the country or even
what's best for the party. He's scared to death. He's
got AOC nipping at his heels. Nancy Pelosi's got an
opponent in her primary, a real opponent, a state senator.
When Bernie Sanders came after Hillary in twenty sixteen, in
(04:17):
that primary, he pushed her to the left. He got
forty three percent if I remember correctly, in Iowa. In Iowa,
Bernie Sanders proved that there was a far left, progressive
element of the Democrat Party that was growing in power
and influence, and it was being funded by a leftist influence,
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and it was recruiting.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
A coalition of very radical.
Speaker 8 (04:48):
Elements, Muslims, illegals, transgenders, and they were taking over the
party up and down the line.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
So the old already have kind of.
Speaker 8 (05:00):
Retired labor folks, they were being pushed out and they
were aging out, they were phasing out, and so the
Democrat Party was changing overnight. And the completion of that happened.
They lost in two thousand, they lost in two thousand
and four. By two thousand and eight, it was a
very different Democrat Party than Bill Clinton had left it.
(05:25):
And that's the year Dashel sent his resources in for
the Obama machine. They brought in young folks, they brought
in technology, and that was the moment the Democrat Party
lurched to the left, from which it has never recovered
(05:47):
that Obama lurched to the left in eight and twelve
and then sixteen. Hillary is not nearly as far left
as Barack Obamas. That's a fact. People don't want to
hear that because they hate her.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
And I got that.
Speaker 8 (06:00):
She's very hateable. I don't like her. She's not a
good person. But Obama can be worse than her. That
those two things can be true.
Speaker 9 (06:09):
She can be.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Terrible and not quite as terrible as Obama.
Speaker 8 (06:14):
Oh you like Hillary? Now, no, no, there's a little nuance.
Calm down, and no, I'm gonna hear it. But it's true. Well,
when she didn't win in sixteen, then you had some
elements coming out, like Elizabeth Warren. Elizabeth Warren comes out,
and so she's going to get the angry leftist. You know,
(06:35):
she's American Indiana, these radical progressive nutjobs. And by the way,
we're seeing Elizabeth warrens on school boards across the country,
on mud districts, on city councils, this sort of hysterical
white liberal woman who doesn't know what she stands for.
It changes every day, but she knows that she wants
(06:57):
to hug something that the rest of us think is weird.
So it might be boys in women's sports, it might
be boys in the girls locker room. Her mind is
absolutely open, wide open to anything.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Just tell her what to say.
Speaker 8 (07:10):
Marxism, socialism, communism, transgenderism, chemical castration, tax, the rich doesn't matter.
She's the Mary Ann Williams, and she's she's the she's
very very sorry that white people are so racist, and
she's willing to kill all the white people. She has to,
not because she hates them, but it's the right thing
(07:32):
to do because she's read a book and she went
to a conference and she has now come to realize
her own privilege.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
And so if we have to kill all the white people,
that's just what we have to do.
Speaker 8 (07:41):
And and that's you need to know black people that
you can vote for her, because she's willing to do that,
and she's one of the good white people. And that
that type of candidate came out. You had Pete Buttergig,
you had Amy klobschar, you had Kamala Harris. And so
the Democrat Party, the big boys came in and said, look,
(08:03):
we're going to lose to Trump. We can control Biden.
He's barely alive. We can control him. And so they
pushed him across the finish line.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
But that was the end of that. Then twenty twenty four,
of course she got Kamala Harris.
Speaker 8 (08:19):
Kamala Harris was a fringe candidate, but she never actually
excited the nuts from wit very.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
How crazy is Zorai Mundani. Let me give an example.
Speaker 8 (08:31):
He has a plan to make New York's buses safer.
He says, you know how, take away the fair box.
Nobody will pay to get on the buses. He'll just
be free. Now why do that, Well, because one of
the problems now is it people who don't want to pay.
(08:53):
They're jumping on the bus and causing problems. So we'll
just let him have it for free. This well, let
me play the audio. This is four h nine.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
You have a farebox on a bus.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
It increases a sight of tension, of conflict, of assaults
when you reduce when you remove that farebox. Rather, what
you find is a safer experience, not just for the
riders but also for the operators.
Speaker 8 (09:16):
See, if people don't have to pay for things, then
you won't have conflict. This is the same mindset in
San Francisco where they said, as long as you steal
less than a thousand dollars, we won't stop you and
we won't prosecute you. Guess what happened. They drove retail
out of San Francisco. Well, if we don't arrest you,
(09:38):
then we don't have conflict. You see, that's what this
is about. This is who this guy is. Now here's
the worst part. We can blast this to every person
in New York, not our listeners, but the other folks
who are voting for him, and they can hear this
and they go, well, that's kind of true. I don't
want to pay for it. There's a great life that's
(10:00):
always stuck with me. By Andrew Fraser Tyler, and he
said a democracy self governance cannot exist as a permanent
form of government. It can only exist until the voters
discover that they can vote themselves largesse.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
From the public treasury. From that moment on.
Speaker 8 (10:29):
The majority always votes for the candidates promising the most
benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a
democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by
a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations
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has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through
this sequence, from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith
to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance,
from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to apathy, from apathy
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to dependence, from dependence back into bondage. I will read
that opening line again. A democracy cannot exist as a
permanent form of government. It can only exist until the
(11:31):
voters discover that they can vote themselves larges from the
public treasury. Now, I know what you're thinking, Well, Michael,
we're not a democracy anyway. For the purposes of this discussion,
we are democracy is direct self rule. We are a
democratic republic, a governing system where we elect the folks
(11:54):
who make the decisions as our proxy so we can
get back to work. For the sake of conversation and
most we are a democracy. I know people love to
say we're not. You're right, we don't have a direct
vote on everything other than referenda and things like that,
but we do have self governance. Well, but they don't
do what we tell them to do, Michael. There's a
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whole set of reasons behind that as well. But be
that as it may, A democracy cannot exist as a
permanent form of government. It can only exist until the
voters discovered that they can vote themselves large at from
the public treasury. This is why this right here is
why socialism always appeals, especially to young people. I don't
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have to work hard like my daddy did. I don't
work hard like my mommy did. I want to do
to that. Just give it to me. We're rich, just
give it to me. Let's go back to twenty twenty one.
Zoron Mondani, who's elected to the New York State Assembly.
He lamented that they needed to elect more socialists if
(13:04):
they were going to reach their ultimate goal of seizing
the means of production. This should frighten you because this
man's about to be the next mayor of the City
of New York. Seizing the means of production means taking
over private property, which he's made clear he will do businesses,
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and of course the people there, you can tell the
people there, hey, he's going to take private property.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah, we're going to.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Get it to be a very lonely and isolating experience.
I'm very lucky that I have five other DSA endorsed
comrades who were with me in the Assembly, in the
State Senate. But for example, before we were elected, Julia
Salazar was an office for two years without a single
of our socialists endorsed by DSA and understanding it then
makes it much easier to run a campaign then will
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be built around raising class consciousness because you will run
the campaign challenging current status quo and showcasing through our
critique how this is an issue of capitalism.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
So there are one hundred.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
And seven Democrats in the New York State Assembly out
of one hundred and fifty assembler people. I know those
hundred and seven Democrats. There are six DSA ignors elected
and seven DSA members. You have the seventh person who's
the DSA member, though she wasn't unversed by Essa, her
name is Jessica vinzalz roll Us. We do clearly do
(14:33):
not have the numbers as they are in this moment
to win the radical legislation that we need to brink
balt and begin to believe that these kinds of results
are sufficient.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
We have to continue to.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Elect more socialists and we have to ensure that we
are unapologetic about our socialism. Now, we had an academic
boycott campaign, and one of the aspects of that was
to fights to stop studying abroad at universities in Israel
that were complicit in the occupation, many of which through
(15:07):
the development of weapons technology for the ideas. Now, by
bringing the issue of Israel Palestine apartheid to Voden. You
bring it frontom center, it's harder to ignore then making
sure that we move to dismantle that relationship. Those are
things that you can do as a legislator, right, you
(15:27):
can pack like, for example, Governor Cole has an executive
order barring you know, I think New York State from
doing business with any company suspected of sympathizing of a BDS.
One thing I can do as a legislator is once
we build up enough, you know, build up a large
enough coalition for this, we overturned that executive order. But
(15:49):
I sincerely believe in this political project. I sincerely believe
in socialism. For me, it was Palestine that brought me
into this movement. It is such a look, it can
be such a lonely experience to be a socialist, And
it was for me country because my journey, as weren't
alluded to it and referred to organizing, began at my
college campus with students for Justice Palestine to power this
(16:12):
journey in understanding that it is socialism that we are
fighting for at the moment right now, right if we're
talking about the cancelation of student debt, if we're talking
about medicare, for all. You know, these are issues which
have the groundswallow of popular support across this country. But
then there are also other issues that we firmly believe it,
whether it's BDS right or whether it's the end goal
(16:32):
of of season, the mets of production, you've.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Got Michael Berry show.
Speaker 8 (16:38):
What's happening in New York right now is an inflection
point for the Democrats. It has put them into a
situation they don't want to be in. They won't flirt
with the radical left, but pretend like the radical left
is not driving their party, and it's not until, for instance,
(17:03):
one of their candidates, the Attorney general candidate in Virginia,
texts a fellow Democrat and friend that he wants his
opponent's children to be murdered in front of his opponent
and his opponent's wife so that they can suffer watching
their children die. And now Democrats are being asked, hey,
(17:26):
are you still supporting him, and they go, yeah, we are, actually,
because all we care about is winning. And once you
understand that, you realize they're not offended by anything, they're
not bothered by anything, they're not opposed in They just
want to win elections in half power period, end of story.
(17:47):
Whatever they tell you they care about, because you care about.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Those things, they don't.
Speaker 8 (17:53):
They don't care about no kings, they don't care about authoritarianism,
they don't care about any of that.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
But they think you do.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
So by saying that, they figure they can get you
over to their side. But when see, the crazies are
supposed to be the foot soldiers. But as with every revolution,
at some point one of the foot soldiers decides he's
going to displace the leader of the junta. This is
(18:25):
Kadafi taking over the military in Libya. This is edy,
I mean, assassinating the leader and taking over himself. First
they take over the military, then they take over the government. Well,
in this case you've got the Ratic And by the way,
this was what happened in Russia. It's a fascinating story.
The very people who were the part of the revolution,
(18:47):
once they took over from the czar, they killed all
of them because they didn't want them turning on the
new power force. So you've got these crazies that Mamdani
has created this environment. So you've got aoc out there,
and you've got Bernie out there, and now the Democrat
(19:08):
Party is in danger. You've got guys like Schumer, who's
not been able to do anything before an hour with
the shutdown, because if he is perceived as weak to Trump,
the Democrat Party doesn't want him to be responsible and compromise.
(19:29):
The Democrat Party wants him to do radical things, and
so he has to keep looking radical when what he
wants to do is in this thing, because it's destroying
the Democrat Party. But a New York Democrat is very
different than the candidates trying to win swing districts in
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Kansas or Texas or Louisiana. So they're being dragged to
the far left extreme by the New York Democrats. And
so the Mamdani case, they're saying, endorse him or don't
are you with us? And if you're not, we're coming
after you. So the Pelosis and the Hakim Jeffries and
all these it's putting them in a real pickle. And
(20:15):
then you look at their rallies. First of all, there's
nobody white there. It's just a bunch of angry immigrants screeching.
And then there's aoc up there and she is she
is completely an actress. She is playing the angry eva
perone ready to slaughter everybody who opposes her as the
(20:37):
you know, as the as the leader of the revolution.
So here she is at the Mamdani rally. And my
favorite thing about this is if you're around somebody who's.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Drunk and you you say, hey, Bob, we need to
get you a ride home. You're drunk. Oh, drumk diver.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
The one thing they will not tolerate is you saying
they're drunk, and the drunker they are, the more true.
That is, well, that's true. In this case, AOC says,
they say we're crazy. We're not crazy. They're crazy. Uh,
that's pretty much how we know you're crazy.
Speaker 10 (21:22):
But we must remember in a time such as this,
we are not the crazy ones New York City. We
are not the outlandish ones New York City. They want
us to think we are crazy. We are saying.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
You remember the scene in one floor of the Cuckoo's Nests.
Speaker 8 (21:48):
I don't want his or his or his or his
or his or yours?
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Do you understand them?
Speaker 11 (22:00):
I want my cigarettes, miss Ratchard, I want my cigarettes.
Speaker 8 (22:05):
I want mine, missus Ratchord.
Speaker 11 (22:07):
What gives you the tam right to keep fe with
cigarettes piled up.
Speaker 12 (22:12):
On your dish?
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Let's just sweeze out of pat only when you feel
like a hunt the wretched. Yes, mister Cheswick, I asked
you a question.
Speaker 13 (22:25):
I heard your question, mister Cheswick, and I will answer
your question as soon as you've calmed down.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 8 (22:38):
If you watched that movie and it had the impact
on you that it did me and other people in
my generation, when you refer to somebody as nurse Ratchet,
I don't know that there is a worse and so
you can throw at them. I really don't.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
So let's go back to AOC just being screeching crazy.
Speaker 10 (23:01):
But we must remember in a time such as this,
we are not the crazy ones New York City. We
are not the outlandish ones New York City. They want
us to think we are crazy, we are sane.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
Is this a Mamdani rally or a gathering at the nuthouse?
It's hard to tell when aocs on the microphone, it
really is.
Speaker 10 (23:34):
But we must remember in a time such as this,
we are not the crazy ones New York City. We
are not the outlandish ones New York City.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Why does she always call out to New York City?
She thinks she's running for the Senate, running for the Senate.
Doesn't she know she's in the Oregon State Hospital? Are
you sure? Charlie's going on about his cigarettes again. I
want no cigarettes, mis Ritchard.
Speaker 13 (24:00):
Secrets.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I want on.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Bestreadship.
Speaker 10 (24:05):
They want us to think we are crazy.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Streadship.
Speaker 10 (24:08):
They want us to think we are crazy.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Stredship.
Speaker 10 (24:11):
They want us to think we are crazy.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
They want us to think we are crazy. They want
us to think we are crazy. They want us to
think we are crazy.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
They want us to think we are crazy. But we're
the sane ones.
Speaker 8 (24:50):
That's exactly what you would say if you're crazy. I
don't feel the need to protest the I'm not crazy enough.
Speaker 14 (25:03):
We're gonna add a little bit about these war houses
I know all about.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Ramon wants to know what around the world is.
Speaker 14 (25:08):
Whistling bungholes, spleen splitters, whisker biscuits, honkey riders, hooskerdoos hoosker
don'ts nips and dazers, whether without the scooter stick or
one single whistling kiddy Jason.
Speaker 9 (25:22):
Dehumanizing rhetoric of Adolf Hitler is once again alive and
well on a national political stage, this time, of course,
in the United States.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
This time given life by.
Speaker 9 (25:33):
Former presidents and current Republican presidential front runner Donald Trump.
Speaker 15 (25:37):
A lot of people have tried to draw similarities between
Mussolini and Hitler.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Springtime for Hitler and Germany.
Speaker 15 (25:49):
The difference, though, I think McDonald Trump even more dangerous,
and that is he has no philosophy, he believes.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
It sid For Hitler.
Speaker 11 (26:01):
He talks about the blood of America is being poisoned.
That going the same exact language used in Nazi Germany.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Springtime for him.
Speaker 13 (26:12):
The money Well, Hitler was duly elected right right, and
so all of a sudden, somebody with those tendencies, though
dictatorial authoritarian tendencies, would be like, Okay, we're gonna shut
this down. We're gonna throw these people in jail. And
they didn't usually telegraph that Trump is telling us what
(26:34):
he intends.
Speaker 8 (26:42):
Senator Chris Murphy was on CNN. Do you remember Chris Murphy.
Chris Murphy was the head of the Biden campaign. He's
a Democrat senator from Connecticut, and he was on one
of the morning talk shows on the Sunday. Remember it
was a Sunday when they when they smothered Biden. And
then there was this who's going to be the nominee.
(27:03):
And they go, oh, no, no, no, Biden's dad and uh,
Kamala is going to be the nominee. Barack said, so,
I mean, I'm sorry. Hillary said so, Well, Barack wasn't
ready for Kamala Harris. I think he had his own choice,
and so he didn't immediately get on board. But they said, oh,
(27:24):
the Clintons, because there's a battle for who is going
to be the elder statesman of the Democrat Party. Hillary
and Bill want that, and Obama's kind of been the
de facto of that, and Obama sort of sort of
eased Bill and Hillary out, but the Clintons, the Clintons
(27:46):
want to be that that force. The Clintons, especially Bill,
is more popular among a certain segment than Barack is.
Hillary is terribly unpopular and always has been, going back
to nineteen ninety two. I'll never forget when Bill Clinton said,
you know, we're a buy one, get one free, you
(28:08):
get two for the price of one. I said at
the time, as did others, I don't think anybody wants
to for the price of one.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
They don't want her at all.
Speaker 8 (28:20):
And then she started pushing what became hillary Care, which
was Obamacare one point zero, and between that and the
gun grabbing in nineteen ninety four, Republicans took back the
House for the first time in forty or fifty years.
That's when Nut Gingrich's contract with America. Immediately, Bill Clinton
gets Dick Morris on the phone, and Morris creates the
(28:43):
triangulation policy, moves him to the middle, runs him against
Bob Dole, terrible candidate in nineteen ninety six, and the
rest is history. Now, Dick Morris couldn't keep his pants
s it neither his nor Bill Clinton, so that wasn't
his fault. But in any case, Senator Chris Murphy was
on CNN This is the Guy on Sunday Morning, was saying,
(29:08):
Joe Biden did a great job at the debate. He's
going to be our next president. He's gonna stay president.
He's as smart as ever, he's as clever as ever.
Twenty minutes later, Hey, Chris, they smothered him. Let's say
it's going to be come law. He goes on, he's
clearly shocked. Oh, well, I don't know what happened. Nobody
(29:29):
asked me. No, no, they didn't. So he's trying to
get himself back into a leadership position. So he said
that Trump loves the shutdown because he ready for this.
Trump is trying to transition to a totalitarian state. They
are all so desperate to find something that will stick.
(29:51):
First it was going to be the shutdown. See that
the conventional wisdom was always the shutdown by the Republicans
helped Clinton and hurt the Republicans. That's also when he
was putting his cigar in Monica Lewinsky's who But in
(30:14):
any case, so the idea was they were going to
shut down the government. Then there was the no kings,
nothing they're doing. They just keep throwing They kep trying
to know. The newest one is he's trying to transition
us to a totalitarian state.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
I think one of the.
Speaker 12 (30:31):
Reasons that President trup President Trump is refusing to negotiate
is because he likes the fact that the government is closed,
because he thinks he can exercise king like powers, He
can open up the parts of the government that he wants,
he can pay the employees who are loyal to him.
I mean, this is a leader who is trying to
(30:52):
transition our government from a democracy to something much closer
to a totalitarian state.
Speaker 8 (30:57):
He was also asked about the Senate Canada. The Senate
Canada from Maine, Graham Platner and his Nazi tattoo. I
keep getting people told me it's not a Nazi. It's
actually it's a Nazi tattoo. Just go ahead and know that.
So you called him real impressive, But since then we've
(31:18):
discovered he has a Nazi tattoo. So you call Trump
a Nazi? And for what for moving the Israeli the
American embassy to Jerusalem, for bringing peace to the Middle East.
Now you got a real Nazi in your party and
(31:41):
you got nothing to love for him. What's going on here?
Speaker 3 (31:44):
All right? So let's see how he responds to that.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Earlier this month, you called Maine Senate candidate Graham Platner impressive.
But since then, obviously a lot about him has come out,
including the fact that he had a Totin cough, which
is a skullhead's Nazi emblem for the SS, he had
one of those tattooed on his chest. He's denied that
he knew what the tattoo meant until recently, but CNN
(32:08):
did find several times he discussed the total cof emblem
in recent years and months. Do you still think Platner
is impressive?
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah, I saw that reporting.
Speaker 12 (32:18):
I think I'm meeting with him this upcoming week, so
I'm certainly interested to hear from him about it. I mean,
anytime you see something like that, you scratch your head.
But I've also listened to him talk about I mean,
the difficult time that he went through in his life,
and frankly, it's not unfamiliar to a lot of soldiers
who came back from service and had a very difficult
(32:42):
time readjusting. So he sounds like a human being to me,
a human being who made mistakes, recognizes them, and is
very open about it. But yeah, certainly I'm looking forward
to sitting down and talking to him about it. He's, obviously,
you know, right now, performing very well in the polls
in Maine. He's talking a language that speaks to a
(33:05):
lot of middle class voters, a lot of Trump voters
that frankly are looking for Democrats that understand working class concerns,
and I'm looking forward to hearing from him.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
Democrats have been calling Republicans Nazis for years, but then
one of their own candidates decorates himself his body with
permanent Nazi imagery and.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Then all of a sudden, well, Nazis aren't so bad.
Speaker 8 (33:35):
Do you remember how they treated Elon Musk after he
did a wave that said, my heart goes out to you.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
They made that a Nazi. These people are nuts.
Speaker 12 (33:45):
What you saw is what you think you saw. Elon
Musk did Kyle Hitler salute? He did, and what you
were talking about is maybe the most dangerous moment in
modern American political history. Whereas there is a sense of
endorsements from Elon Musk and a sense of entitlement and immunity,
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