November 10, 2025 • 30 mins
Michael Berry talks with Marcus Luttrell about his 40-day fast and its powerful impact on body and spirit. Plus, reflections on family, adoption, and the joy of Crockett’s homecoming anniversary.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The Michael Verie Show is on the air on Friday.
Marcus the Trail turned fifty, which was the culmination of
a forty day fast, no food, only water and when
he was feeling indulgent every morning, some coffee and a
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touch of salt in the evening. I told that last night, said,
if there is anything anyone wants to ask about that,
because you want to try a two or three day fast,
let me know and I'll pass it off. And amazed
how many people will say, you die. Well, he hasn't died.
(00:54):
He hasn't died. Best I can tell. He's still alive.
But when you do something like this, Marcus, and you
are a person who likes to have a goal, you
have a lot of intestinal fortitude. You're somebody who sets
a goal and can push through pain and things like that.
Have you set another goal for yourself? Is there something
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on the horizon.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I'm trying to be a deacon in the Catholic Church,
so that's my overall big picture goal. And then I'm
trying to be I want to be a great father
to my kids. In an example, one of the things
that I learned in here is behavior is always a
better example than a lecture, and to lead by that,
don't say one thing and do another. And it's kind
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of brought me closer to the realization of how I
need to do that. I understand people are worried about
how it makes you feet the scary thing to give
up food, but you can't. I mean, I feel amazing
my focus and I've never had this kind of energy before.
My bones don't creaker ache anymore. It's an amazing thing
that transpired what I was going through.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
When I was a kid, we had a mini bike.
We hadn't bought it new. I don't know. We probably
got into garage sell or something. There's just a couple
of pipes with a little tape and duct tape over
that in a little I believe it was an Indian
brand motor, just a tiny little and you would you
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would crank it, and I wasn't strong enough to crank it,
but my older brothers would, And I mean it was
a very rudimentary little mini bike we called it. And
every few years my dad would would spend the time
to get it running again. And it was amazing to
me how important it was to get the junk out
of the engine, because that was what caused it. And
(02:43):
I've come to view food as as this as fuel
in the purest sense. And you look at what Robert F.
Kennedy Junior is talking about constantly and what's happened to
our food supply and what we're putting into our body,
and in many cases people don't know any better. They couldn't.
You can't imagine how corrupted our food supply has become.
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And it's not until you get all of that stuff
out of your system that you begin feeling pure and
clean and happy and healthy and as you said, focused,
it's amazing what a difference it is, and that that's
kind of scary because our food supply should be good
for us.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
That's why going overseas is so great. The food they have,
like Grease and Italy, the food is so good, as
much of it as you want to still these weights.
Do you have any idea what happens if you put
sugar in the gas tank of your cars and people
people shove sugar in their mouth and their think, I mean,
your body is your car, it's your you know, your avatar.
You have to live in your spirits tucked in there.
Everyone knows that it's completely separate from your body. And
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when you when you feed your body, what kind of
body do you have? You have a race car, put
great fluid in their fuel in there and it will
run like that. And when you do these fast which
it talks about in the Bible, it talks throughout generations
before us, and we just kind of got to this
point in our life. We're in our Arab decadence where
we all love to eat, and who doesn't, but you're
actually designing to go without food. And then when you
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do eat and you put it in there, it gives
you a different kind of energy, I mean a substantial
energy and your focus. Once you clean all that stuff
out and give it a try. Everyone else cleans your
house out every now and again, a spring cleaning, You
clean your car out, you run good fluids to it.
Just try it one time and see what happens, and
you'll be surprised what it does for you in your
mind and your body and your spirit. I mean, difficulty
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strengthens the mind as labor does the body. So when
you're doing this stuff, when you go through one of
these facts, that actually strengthens all of those things.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
As your systems begin to adjust to the fact. It's amazing.
You know, there's a brain within a brain. It's amazing
how our body prepares. You know, we crave food, we
prepare for what we're going to put it through. What
did you notice your systems were doing now that they
weren't getting food which they were so accustomed to.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Well, so most of the time I can run off
my adrenal glands now and when I'm meaning katosis. So
normally you only feel your adrenal glands fire when you're afraid.
I have that all the time.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I can feel that.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Energy going through my body when I get up and
I start moving around, and for whatever, if I get
into something difficult, I got to list something heavier or
I have to move fast, I can feel.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
That firing, and then.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I don't have the My bones used to hurt all
the time I join. My knees would crack, and my
elbows and stuff like that were cracking all the time
every time I stand up. That's all gone now. And
the inflammation and the swelling that I would carry, that's
all gone now. It's pretty amazing. I feel great. I
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feel brand new.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
You looked ten years younger, I told you Friday night,
you looked ten years younger. You had a youthful zest
about you. And I know, folks remember, but you have
a for a fifty year old man. You have a
lot more miles than that, most of it chronicled on
TV and even more than that in the book. So
you have lived in relative pain for twenty years. So
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the fact that a fast could make you feel that
much better. You look lighter on your feet, you you
had a skip to your step. It's nice to see.
It's amazing. And the thing that I tell people I
do a little piddly two and three day fast. But
the thing that I tell people in this I can't
do it. You can do it. It's that first part
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and pushing through that first part. Once you get through that,
you have complete command of yourself. I suspect you could
have gone much longer than forty days had you decided
to do so.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
My mind had already shifted over. Something happened to me
on the twentieth twenty first day.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
It woke me up. I woke up.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I felt it in my bikey It's like somebody hit
me in a chest and I kind of sat up
real fast in bed and my arms and my legs
were numb. Oh this happened to me.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
My sleep.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I wear one of those garments to track my sleep,
and I scored with the lowest score I had was
a ninety three. Most of the night it's one hundred.
I have three hours of rim sleep now and two
and a half hours and three hours of deep sleep
registered all my watch every morning when I wake up,
and it says full recovery, complete balance, all of that.
And on that twenty first day, I woke up and
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I and once my arms kind of moved around a
little bit and I could get blood flow because I
was in such a deep sleep that everything my body
was falling asleep and and my orians and everything had
slowed down so much that I was completely out. And
then I could feel that thing in my chest and
I tried to fall back asleep, but it just kept
growing and my energy levels kept spiking up or I
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had to get up. It was four o'clock in the morning,
and I just started moving around and it hasn't gone
away since then. That was the one thing about it,
was that sleep, and I good Lord, when that hit me.
That was the on mid twenties and so the thirty
or nothing like when I got to day twenty something
and I had day thirty in my sight and today
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thirty three, and then I just shifted into sixth gear
and it was one.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
You've got a different gear, that's for sure, Marcus the Trial.
We love you, brother, Happy fiftieth Love you guys. God
Black joll fifty years old after a forty day fast.
That's not for the light of heart to tell you that. Yeah,
little son, Michael Berry, my George Sleep, I can't. You're excited.
(08:31):
Oh Crockett, Okay, yeah, very clever. What's funny is people
think that's where I got the name Crockett from, and
of course it's not any lifelong textans should know about
Davy Crockett coming out of the womb. I'm such a dork.
I was in third grade when I was reading a
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biography of Davy Crockett. I thought, if I ever have
a son, I wanted to name him Crockett. It's the
coolest name ever. And in fact, I said that for
Michael and my wife said, no, your son should have
your name. So he's going to have your name. So
then when Crockett number two it was, it was meant
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to be, although both of my boys cringe anytime dust
on the bottle goes on, because they go, yeah, Dad,
we know you wanted to name Crockett creole, and thank
god you didn't. In fact, it's kind of a taunt
by Michael T of Crockett that he could have been
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named creole, because according to them, that's the worst name ever,
that's a horrible name. I think it's a great name.
I think it's a fantastic name. It's I like names
that are that are unique. You know, what's your what's
your brother law name? Jiggs? Is that really his name?
Romo's got a brother in law named Jiggs. I like
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names where when you were in high school, if you'd
mentioned somebody saying, hey, I know a kid goes Stratford,
what's his name? Jiggs? You know a guy named ya know, Jiggs,
you don't have to know his last name. Everybody knows
that's Jiggs. I mean, that's it's all. It's not only
anybody else that's him. What's his last name? I don't know,
it's got to be him. Know how many jiggs is
are there? Here's one Jiggs. I love names like that
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and Jiggs Henry that's right, Jiggs g Henry or something.
It's on Facebook. It's got an initial. Yeah. But anyway,
so it was thirteen years ago today that Crockett came
home and didn't plan this hour. But we were having
dinner with a friend of ours last night at Maison Chinhwah,
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which is right next to Rasserey nineteen, and it was
kind of a funny deal. My wife and I had
invited another couple to join us for dinner. And this
is over on West Gray, just a block east of Shepherd,
and we've been going to Brasserey nineteen for years. My
kid's favorite restaurant. That's their kind their special occasion restaurant.
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We only go there on a special occasion. We go
other places, but for special occasions of birthday or whatever.
That was where we went for years and years and years.
That's been in a case. And the owner, Charles Clark,
is a good friend. And so I had to park
and walk past his restaurant to get to my own
chin wa And of course he was out front and
he spotted us, and so he said, and he's packed,
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but I never call ahead and he just finds me
a table. So he gives us a big hug and
he says, where do y'all want to be in or out?
I'll get you a table. I'll make it real quick. Uh,
I have cancer. I have to go. You know, like,
what do you do at this moment? Right? So I said, oh,
(11:47):
h we're gonna have drinks after we eat. Somebody invited
us next door. There's a I guess there's a restaurant
next door. I'd been there. I knew there's restaurant next door,
and and he invited us there, and we're we're just
gonna have it. Then we'll come over here and have
a drink. And he said, oh, who Ernie Cockrell. Oh
(12:10):
I know Ernie. I know I introduced y'all. Yeah. Well,
well yeah, y'all come over here afterwards. So we go
eat and we come back. Remember I said that I'm
his guest. So Charles comes to sit down with us,
and he said, uh, how was it? And Ernie said
(12:35):
it's really good? Chinwell, their food is good. I hadn't
been there yet. Michael called me and said, hey, do
you want to go try it? Oh? Man, the lies
you tell and they catch up with you. When when
Crockett came home, Uh, my wife went she had to
spend over a month in Ethiopia to finish the papers
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and things and be able to leave and come home
with him. He was two months shy of his sixth birthday,
and when he came home, Charles Clark found out what
time it was going to be that he got home,
and he was texting me, and I didn't know why,
but he was texting me, are they hear of the here? No? No,
it looks like it's gonna be about in another hours.
(13:18):
It'll be another thirty minutes. So we're sitting in the
backyard and Kroc has been home about thirty minutes. Michael
is loving on his little brother. He wanted a little
brother so badly and now he's got already made little
brother because Michael of Courses is a year older. So
he's six, about to turn seven. And we're sitting out back,
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just the four of us, kind of bonding, and all
of a sudden we hear something out front, which you
could tell they don't speak English, so I'm thinking it's
probably some workers and they're hello, Hello, Hello. It's like, okay,
I guess they're not going away. So I walk in
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the house. Crockett and Michael follow me and I go
to the front door. I opened the door and they
rip into it and it's Mariacci's. And so Charles Texans said,
did they get there? And so he had sent Mariacci
because he said, there's no you know, you're in Texas now,
and that's your Texas welcome. And we still to this
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day laugh about Crockett remembers that like it was yesterday.
That was his his welcome to Texas was Mariacci's playing
in the yard. And I've got these photos of these
two kids, they'd never met at Mariachi before, and they're
they're they're they're pushing the keys on the accordion. You know,
they're showing no restraint, and they were so excited with this.
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Just fascinating. You know, you got these fat Mexican guys
making all these great musical sounds coming out of there.
So anyway, today is the thirteenth anniversary of Crockett coming home,
which which is for our kids. I'd never heard this term,
but when we first adopted a number of folks would
email and refer to it as your gotcha day. We
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call it his homecoming day or his second birthday. But
I always tell my kids you're extra special. You have
two birthdays, the day you came into this world, the
day you came into our home. So that's our day,
that's today. You know, when my kids were little, I
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would often say, I wish they'd just stop aging, just
want to stay right where they are. I love this age.
And with each age it would oddly get better. And
people would say to me, no, no, no, no, just wait.
The great joy is when your young men, or if
you have daughters, you young ladies grow into adults and
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you get to see them be adults, and how cool
it is. And I did not realize that it could
get better, but it does. It's different, it's different, but
it's good. It's it's a beautiful thing. It's uh, it's
a wonderful thing. Indeed, he and his mom came in
and woke me up this morning and they had Michael
(16:14):
T on the phone with him, and uh, there's there's
just nothing like family. There's just there's nothing like it.
It's a it's a beautiful, wonderful, glorious thing. Uh. When
Crockett had come home, it was about he didn't speak
English when when he arrived, not a word, And so
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we started from scratch and it was amazing because we
were just sitting with him constantly and teaching him vocabulary
and teaching him words, and you know, you'd start, you'd
show your fingers, you one, two, three for it. You
just have them repeat and you build children, build vocabulary.
There's sponges. It's amazing. They're just sponges. And so it
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was about less than two weeks after he had come
home and we were I had come home from work
and we were going through our drills and counting and
things like that, when this moment happened.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Okay, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen,
five and deep.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yea, what So what's funny is I played that on
the air years later. Crockett was maybe eight or nine,
and I played that on the air because I thought
it was the cutest thing ever. And he heard it
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and he was wounded. He was hurt. And unfortunately, my
idea as to how you build intimacy and affection and
connection and bond and and and relationships is to cross boundaries,
is to have no boundaries. And most of the time
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it works out well. People will say, ah, you're crazy,
you know, I can have conversations with you, or I'll
tell you things I wouldn't tell anybody else. And and
I think it creates a connection, and can it create
a connection very fast and a very deep connection, because
you get through all the all the small talk, and
you have UH at the end of it. You have
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this this this UH in websites they call it stickiness.
But you have this this bond, this deep bond that
can bond, that can create very fast. And Crockett's feelings
were hurt. He did not like it, and and maybe
because it was too fresh, it was too raw. And
then several years later I mentioned that I had played
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that and how I did upset him and that it's
always bothered me, and he said, it doesn't bother me anymore. Dad,
you could play it. And it just made me so
happy because it meant that he had crossed over into
that was a different person. That's not who I am today.
I was just a little kid who didn't speak English.
But I can appreciate that little kid. I can be happy.
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It's sort of like if you're poor and you're conscious
of being poor until the point that you're not poor anymore,
or that you just conquer that and you go past
it and now you can make jokes about it. There
are things about our past, whatever they may be, that
we're self conscious of, and that at some point you
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can appreciate that. Oh no, I'm not self conscious of
that anymore. And that's when you have you have completely
taken control. Did you have another one? What was it? Good? Crockett?
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Come here.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Crockett came in and joined me this evening because we
had to run some errands together before the show started.
And he's been doodling on a piece of paper during
the course of the show. Crockett's my youngest son. He's eight,
and he has a very big heart. Crockett, I'm gonna
let you. I'm gonna let you pretend you're the mayor
of the city of San Antonio. Okay, you know what
the mayor is, right, yes, sir, Okay. So here's what happened.
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So this woman is making food for homeless people, right,
because you know we talked about homeless people, right, They
live under bridges and things, and they live in bad conditions,
and so she's making food for them and she brings
it to them because they don't have any money, and
a lot of times they have problems, like mental problems,
like we remember we talked about this, and so she
brings them food so that they won't starve, and the
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city of San Antonio is telling her that she can't
bring them food, so they may have to starve. What
do you think of that?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Well, I think it's very nice that she's serving food for.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
The homeless people. It is nice, isn't it. I mean,
that would be a nice isn't that. I mean, isn't
that the kind of thing that we would hope people
would do, is make food for people like that and
not cause their problems?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
So what do you if you as the mayor of
city of San Antonio, would you would you say way
to go Joan Chiever? Or would you put her in jail?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I'm saying way to go John Chiever.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, me too, well known Crockett. That's my little Crockett,
sweet little fella. I often tell Crockett that the world
is neurotic and anxious and insecure and jealous and never change.
I have never in my life met I guess my
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wife is this way too, But I've never in my
life met a more pure person who has no insecurities.
He does not in any way feel jealous or angry
or resentful of anybody else's success or anything they have
that he doesn't, or any honor that they that they achieve.
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He doesn't feel. You know, I mean I am. I
am the exact opposite. I you know, I'm looking around.
Everybody's cheated me, nobody's giving me my due. I'm better
that anybody realizes that everybody's keeping me down. And you
know this is working against me. And oh man, I
chip on my shoulder like you wouldn't believe. But Crockett,
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he just goes through life just happy, just pure happiness
and joy and contentment in who he is and where
he is and what he is. And I tell him
all the time, never changed. The world will try to
change you, the world will try to tell you. And
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you know that's That's one of the things I think about,
is Crockett's personality when I think about politicians telling people,
you know, those people over there, they hate you, they
want you to fail, and I just go, boy, you're
just polluting their minds. This is the Michael Mary Show.
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And continuing the theme of the fact that Chance MacLean
is so where between absolutely crazy and incredibly insanely gifted
and talented and genius, or maybe both are true. He
wants for no good reason. You have to realize this
man has hundreds and hundreds of songs, most of them
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original writing, some covers where he will take a song
and remake the song in a completely different genre for
no reason at all, Like Santa Claus is coming to
Town as a heavy metal tune? Who does that? Was
it Romstein? What's the band? Yeah? He remade He did
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a Christmas album as if Romstein had done it. And
the thing about it was he had a day job
during all of this. He was working at n OV
and other jobs while doing this, and this was what
he did in his spare time for nobody to ever hear.
Who creates these things that may or may not be funny?
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You don't know until you expose them to someone else.
And there was no audience for him. He wasn't on
the air. He was just making songs for no good reason.
So he he remade the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.
You can figure out what his inspiration was. Just six
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right back here. A tale full of facts.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
A tale of a trip that was feetfull, commenced from
a port tropical lover just before a storm that turnt
hat full.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Right wash a windy shouting man.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Just hi, baby show that's Chance the earlier the voice
Noah five just in a while. You probably already figured
out by now. Chance was the theater kid. I often
tell him he's the gayest straight man I know, or
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the straightest gay man. I'm not sure exactly what. But
he has way way too much talent, way too much
talent to be normal. It's other people to just and
his son's just as bad. His son can sing better
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and act better, and is even more creative and artistic.
You know what His son does for a living, works
for him, but he can no longer work for him
full time. He works for him to help Chance out.
His son and his wife started a business. They take
cameras from the nineteen eighties. They buy them, and they'll
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buy them in Batchess. You know, somebody will they're on
the Internet and they'll find I guess you use search terms.
I don't know how you find this Craigslist or where
it is eBay, and they will find that somebody is selling,
you know, a collection of old cameras that are worth nothing,
and they'll give a guy three hundred dollars for one
hundred cameras. He brings them in and he's a he's
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a camera and technology Geet brings it in, checks it
all out. It's like who was it. Lexis used to
do that where you could get the you could buy
a car that was a couple of years old, but
Lexus would give you the warranty on it because they
had run it through their system. I guess they all
do that. Chevy probably does it as well. But he
does that for the camera and then he sells the
camera for say three hundred dollars, and he markets it.
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He takes all the photos of it, and he writes
whole story. And so Chance says that if you go
into his house, you walk in there and their boxes everywhere.
These are boxes of cameras that have come in that
he hasn't inventoried, yeah yet. And those are boxes that
are going to the mailboxes, et cetera, or ups story.
(27:03):
I guess it is now. And so every day there
are just loads of boxes going Those are packages. Those
are fulfillment somebody has ordered a camera. Well, when he
started this on the side, he's working for his dad
full time. And Chance said you know, he's gonna mess
around and make a full time business out of this.
And I thought, well, yeah, that that sounds like a
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full time business. You know, in a small town in
the early eighties, women would get a bedazzler. They'd order
the bedazzler off off the off the off the of
the one eight hundred number on TV and they would
start bedazzling, and you know, they'd be dazzle a sweatshirt
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for this woman's sweatshirt for that and they would decide
based on you know, some other woman would say, you
ought to start a business. You can make some money
off this. Well, you only know ten people and you
don't have the internet. But they would, you know, they'd
go file the documents and do the whole thing, and
they were going to So when Chance told me that,
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that's kind of what I thought of this. Oh yeah,
I'm sure that's going to be a thriving business. I'm
sure there's a booming demand for nineteen eighties cameras. Yep,
that's I wouldn't quit my day job. Well a month later, Hey,
I know you're going to laugh, but Noah's businesses is
really doing well. His wife's his wife's really good at
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the marketing side of it, and he's really good at
refurbishing these old cameras, and there is a nostalgia thing
the kids light these old cameras. So at some point
when Michael was sixteen, I got in in his cheap
and we started Bronco. We start driving around and in
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the console was a mid or early to mid eighties
camera and I said, why do you have this? And
he said, oh, for my birthday. My friends got together,
they all pitched in and they got me that for
my birthday. Why would they get you that? That's what
I wanted. I like retro cameras. Well, there you have it.
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I had no idea there was somebody that wanted one
of these cameras anyway. So he started the business. I
mean he was kind of doing the business on the
side and his wife was doing it full time. And
over a period of time he had to tell his dad, Hey, dad,
I love working with the family business, but I can't
give you one hundred percent of my time any longer.
(29:31):
This business has really taken off, and it has I mean,
I'm not going to share numbers, but I will tell
you this. You would be very surprised if you knew
how well he's doing with this little two person business,
him and his wife. Her name is Precious. Yeah, she
says her parents were hippies. I kind of imagine Redman,
(29:55):
Dada Blues, Adam Carroll naming your kid precious. I think
it's precious. They call her Presh. Maybe that's not right.
O Promise yeah, oh sorry. Maybe her name is Promise
and they call her prom but it's a hippie kid's name.
It's amazing. How many kids when they tell you, you know,
they have this crazy name, and you kind of cock
(30:17):
your head. They're used to it. They've done this and
they're like, oh, my parents were hippies and that just
makes it oh yeah, oh yeah, okay, yeah, or my
parents had me in the sixties, you know, they were flowership.
It makes all sense in the world. Yep, got it.
It's that time time time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The Michael Verie Show is on the air on Friday.
Marcus the Trail turned fifty, which was the culmination of
a forty day fast, no food, only water and when
he was feeling indulgent every morning, some coffee and a
(00:33):
touch of salt in the evening. I told that last night, said,
if there is anything anyone wants to ask about that,
because you want to try a two or three day fast,
let me know and I'll pass it off. And amazed
how many people will say, you die. Well, he hasn't died.
(00:54):
He hasn't died. Best I can tell. He's still alive.
But when you do something like this, Marcus, and you
are a person who likes to have a goal, you
have a lot of intestinal fortitude. You're somebody who sets
a goal and can push through pain and things like that.
Have you set another goal for yourself? Is there something
(01:14):
on the horizon.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I'm trying to be a deacon in the Catholic Church,
so that's my overall big picture goal. And then I'm
trying to be I want to be a great father
to my kids. In an example, one of the things
that I learned in here is behavior is always a
better example than a lecture, and to lead by that,
don't say one thing and do another. And it's kind
(01:38):
of brought me closer to the realization of how I
need to do that. I understand people are worried about
how it makes you feet the scary thing to give
up food, but you can't. I mean, I feel amazing
my focus and I've never had this kind of energy before.
My bones don't creaker ache anymore. It's an amazing thing
that transpired what I was going through.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
When I was a kid, we had a mini bike.
We hadn't bought it new. I don't know. We probably
got into garage sell or something. There's just a couple
of pipes with a little tape and duct tape over
that in a little I believe it was an Indian
brand motor, just a tiny little and you would you
(02:21):
would crank it, and I wasn't strong enough to crank it,
but my older brothers would, And I mean it was
a very rudimentary little mini bike we called it. And
every few years my dad would would spend the time
to get it running again. And it was amazing to
me how important it was to get the junk out
of the engine, because that was what caused it. And
(02:43):
I've come to view food as as this as fuel
in the purest sense. And you look at what Robert F.
Kennedy Junior is talking about constantly and what's happened to
our food supply and what we're putting into our body,
and in many cases people don't know any better. They couldn't.
You can't imagine how corrupted our food supply has become.
(03:03):
And it's not until you get all of that stuff
out of your system that you begin feeling pure and
clean and happy and healthy and as you said, focused,
it's amazing what a difference it is, and that that's
kind of scary because our food supply should be good
for us.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
That's why going overseas is so great. The food they have,
like Grease and Italy, the food is so good, as
much of it as you want to still these weights.
Do you have any idea what happens if you put
sugar in the gas tank of your cars and people
people shove sugar in their mouth and their think, I mean,
your body is your car, it's your you know, your avatar.
You have to live in your spirits tucked in there.
Everyone knows that it's completely separate from your body. And
(03:44):
when you when you feed your body, what kind of
body do you have? You have a race car, put
great fluid in their fuel in there and it will
run like that. And when you do these fast which
it talks about in the Bible, it talks throughout generations
before us, and we just kind of got to this
point in our life. We're in our Arab decadence where
we all love to eat, and who doesn't, but you're
actually designing to go without food. And then when you
(04:05):
do eat and you put it in there, it gives
you a different kind of energy, I mean a substantial
energy and your focus. Once you clean all that stuff
out and give it a try. Everyone else cleans your
house out every now and again, a spring cleaning, You
clean your car out, you run good fluids to it.
Just try it one time and see what happens, and
you'll be surprised what it does for you in your
mind and your body and your spirit. I mean, difficulty
(04:27):
strengthens the mind as labor does the body. So when
you're doing this stuff, when you go through one of
these facts, that actually strengthens all of those things.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
As your systems begin to adjust to the fact. It's amazing.
You know, there's a brain within a brain. It's amazing
how our body prepares. You know, we crave food, we
prepare for what we're going to put it through. What
did you notice your systems were doing now that they
weren't getting food which they were so accustomed to.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Well, so most of the time I can run off
my adrenal glands now and when I'm meaning katosis. So
normally you only feel your adrenal glands fire when you're afraid.
I have that all the time.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I can feel that.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Energy going through my body when I get up and
I start moving around, and for whatever, if I get
into something difficult, I got to list something heavier or
I have to move fast, I can feel.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
That firing, and then.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I don't have the My bones used to hurt all
the time I join. My knees would crack, and my
elbows and stuff like that were cracking all the time
every time I stand up. That's all gone now. And
the inflammation and the swelling that I would carry, that's
all gone now. It's pretty amazing. I feel great. I
(05:44):
feel brand new.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
You looked ten years younger, I told you Friday night,
you looked ten years younger. You had a youthful zest
about you. And I know, folks remember, but you have
a for a fifty year old man. You have a
lot more miles than that, most of it chronicled on
TV and even more than that in the book. So
you have lived in relative pain for twenty years. So
(06:09):
the fact that a fast could make you feel that
much better. You look lighter on your feet, you you
had a skip to your step. It's nice to see.
It's amazing. And the thing that I tell people I
do a little piddly two and three day fast. But
the thing that I tell people in this I can't
do it. You can do it. It's that first part
(06:30):
and pushing through that first part. Once you get through that,
you have complete command of yourself. I suspect you could
have gone much longer than forty days had you decided
to do so.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
My mind had already shifted over. Something happened to me
on the twentieth twenty first day.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
It woke me up. I woke up.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I felt it in my bikey It's like somebody hit
me in a chest and I kind of sat up
real fast in bed and my arms and my legs
were numb. Oh this happened to me.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
My sleep.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I wear one of those garments to track my sleep,
and I scored with the lowest score I had was
a ninety three. Most of the night it's one hundred.
I have three hours of rim sleep now and two
and a half hours and three hours of deep sleep
registered all my watch every morning when I wake up,
and it says full recovery, complete balance, all of that.
And on that twenty first day, I woke up and
(07:22):
I and once my arms kind of moved around a
little bit and I could get blood flow because I
was in such a deep sleep that everything my body
was falling asleep and and my orians and everything had
slowed down so much that I was completely out. And
then I could feel that thing in my chest and
I tried to fall back asleep, but it just kept
growing and my energy levels kept spiking up or I
(07:43):
had to get up. It was four o'clock in the morning,
and I just started moving around and it hasn't gone
away since then. That was the one thing about it,
was that sleep, and I good Lord, when that hit me.
That was the on mid twenties and so the thirty
or nothing like when I got to day twenty something
and I had day thirty in my sight and today
(08:04):
thirty three, and then I just shifted into sixth gear
and it was one.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
You've got a different gear, that's for sure, Marcus the Trial.
We love you, brother, Happy fiftieth Love you guys. God
Black joll fifty years old after a forty day fast.
That's not for the light of heart to tell you that. Yeah,
little son, Michael Berry, my George Sleep, I can't. You're excited.
(08:31):
Oh Crockett, Okay, yeah, very clever. What's funny is people
think that's where I got the name Crockett from, and
of course it's not any lifelong textans should know about
Davy Crockett coming out of the womb. I'm such a dork.
I was in third grade when I was reading a
(08:51):
biography of Davy Crockett. I thought, if I ever have
a son, I wanted to name him Crockett. It's the
coolest name ever. And in fact, I said that for
Michael and my wife said, no, your son should have
your name. So he's going to have your name. So
then when Crockett number two it was, it was meant
(09:12):
to be, although both of my boys cringe anytime dust
on the bottle goes on, because they go, yeah, Dad,
we know you wanted to name Crockett creole, and thank
god you didn't. In fact, it's kind of a taunt
by Michael T of Crockett that he could have been
(09:33):
named creole, because according to them, that's the worst name ever,
that's a horrible name. I think it's a great name.
I think it's a fantastic name. It's I like names
that are that are unique. You know, what's your what's
your brother law name? Jiggs? Is that really his name?
Romo's got a brother in law named Jiggs. I like
(09:54):
names where when you were in high school, if you'd
mentioned somebody saying, hey, I know a kid goes Stratford,
what's his name? Jiggs? You know a guy named ya know, Jiggs,
you don't have to know his last name. Everybody knows
that's Jiggs. I mean, that's it's all. It's not only
anybody else that's him. What's his last name? I don't know,
it's got to be him. Know how many jiggs is
are there? Here's one Jiggs. I love names like that
(10:18):
and Jiggs Henry that's right, Jiggs g Henry or something.
It's on Facebook. It's got an initial. Yeah. But anyway,
so it was thirteen years ago today that Crockett came
home and didn't plan this hour. But we were having
dinner with a friend of ours last night at Maison Chinhwah,
(10:39):
which is right next to Rasserey nineteen, and it was
kind of a funny deal. My wife and I had
invited another couple to join us for dinner. And this
is over on West Gray, just a block east of Shepherd,
and we've been going to Brasserey nineteen for years. My
kid's favorite restaurant. That's their kind their special occasion restaurant.
(11:01):
We only go there on a special occasion. We go
other places, but for special occasions of birthday or whatever.
That was where we went for years and years and years.
That's been in a case. And the owner, Charles Clark,
is a good friend. And so I had to park
and walk past his restaurant to get to my own
chin wa And of course he was out front and
he spotted us, and so he said, and he's packed,
(11:25):
but I never call ahead and he just finds me
a table. So he gives us a big hug and
he says, where do y'all want to be in or out?
I'll get you a table. I'll make it real quick. Uh,
I have cancer. I have to go. You know, like,
what do you do at this moment? Right? So I said, oh,
(11:47):
h we're gonna have drinks after we eat. Somebody invited
us next door. There's a I guess there's a restaurant
next door. I'd been there. I knew there's restaurant next door,
and and he invited us there, and we're we're just
gonna have it. Then we'll come over here and have
a drink. And he said, oh, who Ernie Cockrell. Oh
(12:10):
I know Ernie. I know I introduced y'all. Yeah. Well,
well yeah, y'all come over here afterwards. So we go
eat and we come back. Remember I said that I'm
his guest. So Charles comes to sit down with us,
and he said, uh, how was it? And Ernie said
(12:35):
it's really good? Chinwell, their food is good. I hadn't
been there yet. Michael called me and said, hey, do
you want to go try it? Oh? Man, the lies
you tell and they catch up with you. When when
Crockett came home, Uh, my wife went she had to
spend over a month in Ethiopia to finish the papers
(12:57):
and things and be able to leave and come home
with him. He was two months shy of his sixth birthday,
and when he came home, Charles Clark found out what
time it was going to be that he got home,
and he was texting me, and I didn't know why,
but he was texting me, are they hear of the here? No? No,
it looks like it's gonna be about in another hours.
(13:18):
It'll be another thirty minutes. So we're sitting in the
backyard and Kroc has been home about thirty minutes. Michael
is loving on his little brother. He wanted a little
brother so badly and now he's got already made little
brother because Michael of Courses is a year older. So
he's six, about to turn seven. And we're sitting out back,
(13:40):
just the four of us, kind of bonding, and all
of a sudden we hear something out front, which you
could tell they don't speak English, so I'm thinking it's
probably some workers and they're hello, Hello, Hello. It's like, okay,
I guess they're not going away. So I walk in
(14:02):
the house. Crockett and Michael follow me and I go
to the front door. I opened the door and they
rip into it and it's Mariacci's. And so Charles Texans said,
did they get there? And so he had sent Mariacci
because he said, there's no you know, you're in Texas now,
and that's your Texas welcome. And we still to this
(14:22):
day laugh about Crockett remembers that like it was yesterday.
That was his his welcome to Texas was Mariacci's playing
in the yard. And I've got these photos of these
two kids, they'd never met at Mariachi before, and they're
they're they're they're pushing the keys on the accordion. You know,
they're showing no restraint, and they were so excited with this.
(14:44):
Just fascinating. You know, you got these fat Mexican guys
making all these great musical sounds coming out of there.
So anyway, today is the thirteenth anniversary of Crockett coming home,
which which is for our kids. I'd never heard this term,
but when we first adopted a number of folks would
email and refer to it as your gotcha day. We
(15:05):
call it his homecoming day or his second birthday. But
I always tell my kids you're extra special. You have
two birthdays, the day you came into this world, the
day you came into our home. So that's our day,
that's today. You know, when my kids were little, I
(15:30):
would often say, I wish they'd just stop aging, just
want to stay right where they are. I love this age.
And with each age it would oddly get better. And
people would say to me, no, no, no, no, just wait.
The great joy is when your young men, or if
you have daughters, you young ladies grow into adults and
(15:54):
you get to see them be adults, and how cool
it is. And I did not realize that it could
get better, but it does. It's different, it's different, but
it's good. It's it's a beautiful thing. It's uh, it's
a wonderful thing. Indeed, he and his mom came in
and woke me up this morning and they had Michael
(16:14):
T on the phone with him, and uh, there's there's
just nothing like family. There's just there's nothing like it.
It's a it's a beautiful, wonderful, glorious thing. Uh. When
Crockett had come home, it was about he didn't speak
English when when he arrived, not a word, And so
(16:36):
we started from scratch and it was amazing because we
were just sitting with him constantly and teaching him vocabulary
and teaching him words, and you know, you'd start, you'd
show your fingers, you one, two, three for it. You
just have them repeat and you build children, build vocabulary.
There's sponges. It's amazing. They're just sponges. And so it
(16:57):
was about less than two weeks after he had come
home and we were I had come home from work
and we were going through our drills and counting and
things like that, when this moment happened.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Okay, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen,
five and deep.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yea, what So what's funny is I played that on
the air years later. Crockett was maybe eight or nine,
and I played that on the air because I thought
it was the cutest thing ever. And he heard it
(17:48):
and he was wounded. He was hurt. And unfortunately, my
idea as to how you build intimacy and affection and
connection and bond and and and relationships is to cross boundaries,
is to have no boundaries. And most of the time
(18:11):
it works out well. People will say, ah, you're crazy,
you know, I can have conversations with you, or I'll
tell you things I wouldn't tell anybody else. And and
I think it creates a connection, and can it create
a connection very fast and a very deep connection, because
you get through all the all the small talk, and
you have UH at the end of it. You have
(18:31):
this this this UH in websites they call it stickiness.
But you have this this bond, this deep bond that
can bond, that can create very fast. And Crockett's feelings
were hurt. He did not like it, and and maybe
because it was too fresh, it was too raw. And
then several years later I mentioned that I had played
(18:51):
that and how I did upset him and that it's
always bothered me, and he said, it doesn't bother me anymore. Dad,
you could play it. And it just made me so
happy because it meant that he had crossed over into
that was a different person. That's not who I am today.
I was just a little kid who didn't speak English.
But I can appreciate that little kid. I can be happy.
(19:11):
It's sort of like if you're poor and you're conscious
of being poor until the point that you're not poor anymore,
or that you just conquer that and you go past
it and now you can make jokes about it. There
are things about our past, whatever they may be, that
we're self conscious of, and that at some point you
(19:32):
can appreciate that. Oh no, I'm not self conscious of
that anymore. And that's when you have you have completely
taken control. Did you have another one? What was it? Good? Crockett?
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Come here.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Crockett came in and joined me this evening because we
had to run some errands together before the show started.
And he's been doodling on a piece of paper during
the course of the show. Crockett's my youngest son. He's eight,
and he has a very big heart. Crockett, I'm gonna
let you. I'm gonna let you pretend you're the mayor
of the city of San Antonio. Okay, you know what
the mayor is, right, yes, sir, Okay. So here's what happened.
(20:08):
So this woman is making food for homeless people, right,
because you know we talked about homeless people, right, They
live under bridges and things, and they live in bad conditions,
and so she's making food for them and she brings
it to them because they don't have any money, and
a lot of times they have problems, like mental problems,
like we remember we talked about this, and so she
brings them food so that they won't starve, and the
(20:31):
city of San Antonio is telling her that she can't
bring them food, so they may have to starve. What
do you think of that?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Well, I think it's very nice that she's serving food for.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
The homeless people. It is nice, isn't it. I mean,
that would be a nice isn't that. I mean, isn't
that the kind of thing that we would hope people
would do, is make food for people like that and
not cause their problems?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
So what do you if you as the mayor of
city of San Antonio, would you would you say way
to go Joan Chiever? Or would you put her in jail?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I'm saying way to go John Chiever.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, me too, well known Crockett. That's my little Crockett,
sweet little fella. I often tell Crockett that the world
is neurotic and anxious and insecure and jealous and never change.
I have never in my life met I guess my
(21:26):
wife is this way too, But I've never in my
life met a more pure person who has no insecurities.
He does not in any way feel jealous or angry
or resentful of anybody else's success or anything they have
that he doesn't, or any honor that they that they achieve.
(21:49):
He doesn't feel. You know, I mean I am. I
am the exact opposite. I you know, I'm looking around.
Everybody's cheated me, nobody's giving me my due. I'm better
that anybody realizes that everybody's keeping me down. And you
know this is working against me. And oh man, I
chip on my shoulder like you wouldn't believe. But Crockett,
(22:12):
he just goes through life just happy, just pure happiness
and joy and contentment in who he is and where
he is and what he is. And I tell him
all the time, never changed. The world will try to
change you, the world will try to tell you. And
(22:34):
you know that's That's one of the things I think about,
is Crockett's personality when I think about politicians telling people,
you know, those people over there, they hate you, they
want you to fail, and I just go, boy, you're
just polluting their minds. This is the Michael Mary Show.
(22:55):
And continuing the theme of the fact that Chance MacLean
is so where between absolutely crazy and incredibly insanely gifted
and talented and genius, or maybe both are true. He
wants for no good reason. You have to realize this
man has hundreds and hundreds of songs, most of them
(23:16):
original writing, some covers where he will take a song
and remake the song in a completely different genre for
no reason at all, Like Santa Claus is coming to
Town as a heavy metal tune? Who does that? Was
it Romstein? What's the band? Yeah? He remade He did
(23:38):
a Christmas album as if Romstein had done it. And
the thing about it was he had a day job
during all of this. He was working at n OV
and other jobs while doing this, and this was what
he did in his spare time for nobody to ever hear.
Who creates these things that may or may not be funny?
(24:02):
You don't know until you expose them to someone else.
And there was no audience for him. He wasn't on
the air. He was just making songs for no good reason.
So he he remade the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.
You can figure out what his inspiration was. Just six
(24:32):
right back here. A tale full of facts.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
A tale of a trip that was feetfull, commenced from
a port tropical lover just before a storm that turnt
hat full.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Right wash a windy shouting man.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Just hi, baby show that's Chance the earlier the voice
Noah five just in a while. You probably already figured
out by now. Chance was the theater kid. I often
tell him he's the gayest straight man I know, or
(25:16):
the straightest gay man. I'm not sure exactly what. But
he has way way too much talent, way too much
talent to be normal. It's other people to just and
his son's just as bad. His son can sing better
(25:36):
and act better, and is even more creative and artistic.
You know what His son does for a living, works
for him, but he can no longer work for him
full time. He works for him to help Chance out.
His son and his wife started a business. They take
cameras from the nineteen eighties. They buy them, and they'll
(25:57):
buy them in Batchess. You know, somebody will they're on
the Internet and they'll find I guess you use search terms.
I don't know how you find this Craigslist or where
it is eBay, and they will find that somebody is selling,
you know, a collection of old cameras that are worth nothing,
and they'll give a guy three hundred dollars for one
hundred cameras. He brings them in and he's a he's
(26:21):
a camera and technology Geet brings it in, checks it
all out. It's like who was it. Lexis used to
do that where you could get the you could buy
a car that was a couple of years old, but
Lexus would give you the warranty on it because they
had run it through their system. I guess they all
do that. Chevy probably does it as well. But he
does that for the camera and then he sells the
camera for say three hundred dollars, and he markets it.
(26:43):
He takes all the photos of it, and he writes
whole story. And so Chance says that if you go
into his house, you walk in there and their boxes everywhere.
These are boxes of cameras that have come in that
he hasn't inventoried, yeah yet. And those are boxes that
are going to the mailboxes, et cetera, or ups story.
(27:03):
I guess it is now. And so every day there
are just loads of boxes going Those are packages. Those
are fulfillment somebody has ordered a camera. Well, when he
started this on the side, he's working for his dad
full time. And Chance said you know, he's gonna mess
around and make a full time business out of this.
And I thought, well, yeah, that that sounds like a
(27:24):
full time business. You know, in a small town in
the early eighties, women would get a bedazzler. They'd order
the bedazzler off off the off the off the of
the one eight hundred number on TV and they would
start bedazzling, and you know, they'd be dazzle a sweatshirt
(27:47):
for this woman's sweatshirt for that and they would decide
based on you know, some other woman would say, you
ought to start a business. You can make some money
off this. Well, you only know ten people and you
don't have the internet. But they would, you know, they'd
go file the documents and do the whole thing, and
they were going to So when Chance told me that,
(28:07):
that's kind of what I thought of this. Oh yeah,
I'm sure that's going to be a thriving business. I'm
sure there's a booming demand for nineteen eighties cameras. Yep,
that's I wouldn't quit my day job. Well a month later, Hey,
I know you're going to laugh, but Noah's businesses is
really doing well. His wife's his wife's really good at
(28:29):
the marketing side of it, and he's really good at
refurbishing these old cameras, and there is a nostalgia thing
the kids light these old cameras. So at some point
when Michael was sixteen, I got in in his cheap
and we started Bronco. We start driving around and in
(28:49):
the console was a mid or early to mid eighties
camera and I said, why do you have this? And
he said, oh, for my birthday. My friends got together,
they all pitched in and they got me that for
my birthday. Why would they get you that? That's what
I wanted. I like retro cameras. Well, there you have it.
(29:09):
I had no idea there was somebody that wanted one
of these cameras anyway. So he started the business. I
mean he was kind of doing the business on the
side and his wife was doing it full time. And
over a period of time he had to tell his dad, Hey, dad,
I love working with the family business, but I can't
give you one hundred percent of my time any longer.
(29:31):
This business has really taken off, and it has I mean,
I'm not going to share numbers, but I will tell
you this. You would be very surprised if you knew
how well he's doing with this little two person business,
him and his wife. Her name is Precious. Yeah, she
says her parents were hippies. I kind of imagine Redman,
(29:55):
Dada Blues, Adam Carroll naming your kid precious. I think
it's precious. They call her Presh. Maybe that's not right.
O Promise yeah, oh sorry. Maybe her name is Promise
and they call her prom but it's a hippie kid's name.
It's amazing. How many kids when they tell you, you know,
they have this crazy name, and you kind of cock
(30:17):
your head. They're used to it. They've done this and
they're like, oh, my parents were hippies and that just
makes it oh yeah, oh yeah, okay, yeah, or my
parents had me in the sixties, you know, they were flowership.
It makes all sense in the world. Yep, got it.
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