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The Michael Verry Show.
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Anybody here ever lived in Vermont? Would you lift your hand?
You lived in the state of Vermont. Surely out of
five six thousand people, somebody's lived in Vermont.
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Am I not seeing your hand? Where back there? Stand
up Vermont? Stand up there for a minute.
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Hey, welcome, We got one now.
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I am told that in Vermont.
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There would be a lake that's frozen solid in December.
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And here here's a.
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Guy who is sees a shortcut on the way home
instead of walking around the lake.
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And who look at him?
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He doesn't have a lot of faith, does he. He's
checking out that ice to make sure it's thick enough.
This is December. So here he goes across the lake.
He's just feeling his way along and woop, here comes
man much heavier a snowmobile. And there's a couple on it.
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And they don't seem to have any doubts. They've got
great faith. Watch them, they just go watch them? Does
it go across?
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Zoom? Now all of a sudden, he's a believer. And
so we look at.
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The guy who's feeling a where wrong? Say, boy, he's skeptical.
He doesn't think that eye is gonna hold him up.
But that couple in the snowmobile, they must have gone
by and said, what are you doing down there on
your knees this December?
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This ice? Oh you you think it won't hold you up?
You don't have any faith at all. They just zipped across.
They had great faith, didn't they.
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Well, let's just go back to the same lake and
see what happens. In March. It's been a warm time.
And here's this same guy. He's taking a short cut
going to work this.
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Time in March. He still is skeptical.
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Old right there, he's still skeptical, but it's March.
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He's siting along.
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Here comes this couple, and this couple has the attitude.
You hear this a lot of times in churches and puppets.
If you'll just believe, if you'll have enough faith, or
if you'll believe and be passionate about your faith. To
believe is to know it's a reality, picture the reality,
and you'll be safe.
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That's what faith is.
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You want faith, faith, faith in yourself, faith in what
you believe.
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I desire it, I claim it.
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In the name of Da Da Da Da, and boy,
it's going to happen.
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They had faith. Well, here we go, Now, what in
the world is this?
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You see faith, you see death, and they win that
whole hypothermia, drowned, whatever, death, but they had I had
a lot of faith. And then we see doubt. So
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that's the three words. We're going to look at, three
gigantic words that affect every single one of us today and.
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The rest of our lives.
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And we understand, and we'll see what Jesus did and
what Jesus said, what he did, what he said, what
he did, and he said about these three giant words faith, death, doubt, hope.
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You have your bibles with you.
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Luke Chapter number seven, Luke seven, verse one through ten,
Jesus deals with faith, and then verse eleven through verse
seventeen he deals with death the eath, verse eighteen, all
the way through verse thirty five he deals with doubt, doubt.
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So let's look at that if we could. Luke seven,
verse one. When he had completed all his discourse, his
teaching in the hearing of the people, he went to Capernaum, Capernaum,
and he'd been out of the plain the side of
the hill, in a flat area, and a centurion slave
who was highly regarded by him was sick and about
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to die, And when he heard about Jesus the Centurion,
he sent some Jewish elders asking him to come and
save the life of his slave. And when they came
to Jesus, they earnestly implored him, begged him. See, he
is worthy for you to grant this to him, for
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he loves our nation, and it was he who built
our synagogue. Told about the Centurion. Now Jesus start on
his way with them. And when he was not far
from the house, the centurion sent friends, saying to him, Lord,
do not trouble yourself further, for I'm not worthy for
you to come under my roof. For this reason, I
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did not even consider myself worthy to come to you.
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But just say the word, and my servant will be healed.
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For I'm a man placed under authority, with soldiers under me,
and I say to this one go and he goes,
And to another come and he.
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Comes, and to the slave, do this, and he does it.
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Now, when Jesus heard this, now listen carefully, he marveled
at him. What does it take to amaze God? What
does it take to just be marveled God? To say
that's amazing? What does it take, and turned and said
the crowd that was following him, this is Jesus. I
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say to you, no, not even in Israel have I
found such great faith. When those who had been sent
returned to the house, they found the slave in good health. Interesting,
isn't it we talk about faith. First of all, know
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what a centurion is. A centurion would be a captain
in the Roman army, be in charge of about one
hundred soldiers. And that's how the Roman army was established.
They had centurions who were captain.
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With a hundred soldiers over them.
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They had generals, and the generals answered to the emperor
to season. And so this centurion was just one away
from ultimate power, the power of Caesar.
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And so we have to understand that in the context.
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Now, the centurion had a slave, his right hand man,
whom he loved, I'm sure was like family to him,
and he was dying. And so the centurion sent the
leaders in the synagogue, the Jewish leaders, the elders, and said,
go tell this Jesus, ask this Jesus to heal my slave.
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And by the way, this is the gospel of Luke.
Remember Luke was a doctor. Luke was perhaps the only
gentile writer in the New Testament. And so Luke used
the word healing and the word say salvation interchangeably, because
they're the same word in the Greek. If you're healed,
you're saved. If you're saved, you're healed. And that is
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really true. All of God's children are healed in this
life or in the next life.
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That's the promise that we have in Christ. So get
that straight.
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And so here we see that the Jewish leaders went
to the centurions, and they went on behalf of the
centurion to Jesus and said, this man is worthy. Did
you notice that is worthy of being healed.
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Man?
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He's a conquering officer, he was perhaps over that whole area.
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What had he done in.
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The eyes of the Jews to make him worthy? First
of all, he was a friend of the people. In
other words, evidently this centurion had gone the synagogue. He
saw a worship there of a monotheistic God. He saw
the reverence of the people, he saw the morality of
the people.
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He was attracted. And perhaps some.
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People think he was not just a god Fearah, but
he had been apostolyte. He had literally become a Jew
and was a member of the synagogue.
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That made him worthy.
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On top of that, he says, he built the church.
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He built the synagogue.
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So we see these leaders going to Jesus saying, hey,
he wants you to heal his servant man. He's one
of us, he's a part of the son of God.
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He built the church, he's worthy.
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Did you notice response to Centurions group said about him.
They said, he said, I'm not worthy. I'm not worthy
of you to heal me. Now look how the thinking operates.
Good man, moral man built the church, He's worthy of healing. Right,
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But the man in South Centurion said no, I'm really
not a good man. I'm really not I'm not worthy
of being healed. And see that's a crazy We think
just like that, ladies and gentlemen. That person is so
good and somorrow he's so fine. He just goes to church. Man,
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he is worthy of big healed. And there is that
rascal over there that's come man, he's not worthy of
being healed.
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We think like that, don't we? Sure we do. That's
the way the Jews thought, and.
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The Centurion he brings in a whole new paradigm. Here
he says I'm not worthy, but I know Jesus can
heal me, because I see in Jesus what I see
in myself.
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What was that authority?
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He said, I tell someone to go to battle, they
go to battle.
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I tell someone to come to me, They come to me.
They're my soldiers. I'm in command. I tell my slave
to do this, and my slave does it. I'm in charge.
He said. I have listened to Jesus.
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I have watched him before miracle after miracle. I see
he too is a man who has authority, authority over life,
authority over sickness, authority in his teaching.
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And that was the great faith.
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That Jesus saw in the centurion that didn't see in anybody,
all the Jews, all the believers in all of Israel.
That's important we understand this great faith. It wasn't just
the when I've got great faith, I'm.
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In my snowmobile. It doesn't matter where the eyes is,
sticker thing. Boy, I've got faith. We don't go across
the other side. I've got grave. No, no, no, no,
no no.
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He put his faith in Jesus. You see all the Jews,
they said, boy, how was Jesus able to that person?
Could blind good see and how could Jesus that person
was dead is now alive. How in the world could
Jesus teach this. I've never heard anything like it. It's revelation.
And they were trying to figure it out, trying to
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explain it away. When who's who's who's his family? Then
they just carpenters, I mean they were.
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And see the centurion he saw through all that and.
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Said, this is God, this is divine activity. This is
someone who has ultimate authority. And Jesus says, man, he
gets it.
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And all the other Jews, so many of them, didn't
get it. He's got the authority. Who had faith?
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Going across that lake in Vermont, they well, they had
faith in the snowboll bill. Look at that guy, No,
the guy down who was feeling the how how.
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Heavy the ice could take his weight?
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He had reasoned out thought through faith, and when he
saw that the snowboll wing went over, he had great faith.
When he saw it was would not hold him up,
he turned around and went the other way.
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You see, doubt preceded faith.
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This is what assess thatful mountain climber does. Except montclimber
knows the rock knows his limitation.
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He knows himself. It's an exercise in reality. You say, well,
that's not really biblical faith. Then you don't know the
definition of biblical faith.
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Look at it in Hebrews, chapter number eleven, verse one. Now,
faith is the assurance of things hoped for and the
conviction of things not seen. Faith is assurance. Doesn't sound
like pie and the power I hope, I wish does it.
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It's the assurance, and it's the evidence of things you
don't see. Faith is exercising reality, ladies and gentlemen. And
so this is what this was the faith that was
demonstrated by the Cinture.
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This was a great faith.
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Jesus applauded and said he'd.
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Not seen anything like it before.
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It's because he saw in Jesus the authority. What does
it take for you to lie to make it do
any situation? Just enough faith to turn ourselves and turn
the situation over to Jesus.
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That's all it takes. That's all it takes.
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Right there, that's great faith, faith based on truth, based
on experience. You just can't argue with it. So then
we see the next section of our study. It deals
with death. We see what Jesus said about faith, what
he did about faith. Now we see what Jesus said
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about death and what he did about death. Look back
if you would in Luke chapter seven, verse eleven. And
soon afterwards he went to a city called name.
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That's what he did.
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And the disciples were going with him, a company by
a large crowd. Now, as he approached the gate of
the city, a dead man was being carried out, the
only son of his mother. And she was a widow,
and a sizeable crowd from the city was with her.
When the Lord saw her, he felt compassion for her
and said to her, do not weep. That's what he said.
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And he came up and touched the coffin. That's what
he did. And the bearers came to a halt, and
he said, young man, I say to you arrive. And
the dead man set up and began to speak, and
Jesus gave him back to his mother, and fear gripped.
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Them all they'll be in glorifying God.
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Saying a great prophet has risen among us, and.
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God has visited his people.
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What about death? I love what weersby, said his commentary.
He has people meeting, He said two crowds met. He said,
you have Jesus, and you have his apostles and his disciples,
and a whole crowd coming from Capernaum all the way
to Name. There's a old crowd of people falling Jews.
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Down the road.
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At the same time there's a whole crowd of people
with a widow of.
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Name and the body of her dead son. And so
these two crowds met. Two crowds met.
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One was going out to the cemetery bury the boy.
The other was going into the city to celebrate Christ.
Two crowds met. By the way, you and I are
in one crowd or another because of our saying world
way to the cemetery death out of Vengess over going
way to the city, which is in New Jerusalem.
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But that's sub plot.
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Also, not only two Chris, two only sons met Jesus,
the only begotten son of God. And then this was
the only son of the widow from Name. So these
two sons met, both only sons. They met, but one
was dead and one was alive. Jesus was alive, he
would soon be dead, and the boy who was dead,
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Jesus would soon pronounce him and he would come alive. Interesting,
isn't it? Also two sufferers met. There was a widow
who was weeping, and there was Jesus, who was the
suffering servant, identifying with her in compassion and weeping with her.
He asked, all, is a man of sorrows with us?
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So two sufferers met. But the most important thing about
these meetings, going in and going out, is two enemies met.
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Life and death. Life and death.
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Jesus came and brought life to him who was dead,
And ladies and gentlemen, that is always how Jesus handles death.
That's always how he handles it, every single time. What
does Paul tell us? In one Corinthians fifteen Great chapter?
He says, what happens when we're follows of Jesus Christ?
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He said, this which is perishable, so we take it off,
we throw it away. We put on that which is imperisiable.
He said, this which is mortal, not gonna be here.
Forever we take it off, we put on that which
is immortality.
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Isn't that terrific? He said? In fact, explaining to me.
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Death is swallowed up in victory, he said, death has
no stem, because stem comes from sin. And Jesus took
care of our sin on the cross. Then he says,
thanks being the God through Jesus Christ, our Lord. This
is how Jesus handles death. He eliminates it. Death is
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dead in Jesus Christ, without of business, it's non functioning.
And so we see here this is what Jesus did
and what Jesus said about death. It's always what he
does and always what he says about death. And we
see it here in that young man was brought back
to life. And then we see how Jesus dealt with doubt.
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By the way, if.
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You'd ask any of us to this point, if we
read the Bible, who is the one person that would
never doubt that Jesus was the Son of God that
we discussed in the Bible, from Genesis all the way
to this point. One person that would never doubt who
Jesus was. I would say it to be John the Baptist,
wouldn't you? I mean John the Baptist. He would doubt
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that Jesus was Messiah. That's that's that's I would never
believe that.
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You just can't be. He was his cousin. He was
a forerunner.
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He announced he was coming my John the Baptist. He
sends a delegation to Jesus, and he has doubts that
Jesus is the Messiah.
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Hello, look at it in our scripture verse eighteen.
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Still Luke seven the disciples that John reported to him
about all these things.
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Summoning two of the.
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Disciples, John from his prison sent them to the Lord, saying,
are you the expected one Messiah?
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Or do we look for someone else? Now? Verse twenty.
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When the men came came to him, they said, John,
the babtist, this has sent us to you to ask
are you the one, the expected one?
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Or do you do we look for someone else? Verse
twenty one.
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At that same time, very important Jesus cured many people's
diseases and afflictions and evil spirits, and he gave sight
to many who were blind. Now this delegation kingdom John
asking Jesus is are you the Messiah?
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Are you the one?
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And then Jesus is healing people. Here's someone's death, they hear,
and he's healing people. And then Jesus turns around to him.
After they had witnessed this verse twenty two. He answered
them said go and report to John what you seen
and heard. The blind receives sight the lame walk, the
lepers are clings the death.
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Here, the dead.
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Are raised up, the poor have the gospel speakers preached
to them. Blessed is he who does not take a
vince at me. What is Jesus quoting? Jesus is quoting
here from four different passages of Scripture, all in Isaiah,
Isaiah twenty six, Isaiah twenty nine, Isaiah thirty five, Isaiah
sixty one, and he sort of puts them all together.
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In other words, he's saying, tell John, what's going on here?
What I'm saying, what I'm doing, What you've seen, what
you've observed. But Jesus leaves out one thing, and John
was looking for this one thing.
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Set the prisoners free. John said, I'm still in prison.
If he's gonna if justice is gonna.
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Rain down like rivers, looks like you'd start with me,
I'm in prison. And then he could have added there,
and by the way, Rome is still running the show.
He could have added there, the religious leaders are solid phonies,
they're hypocrites, And John was saying, what about this? John
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proclaimed that Kingdom was coming and called for the people
to be baptized and repent of their sin, and he
looked at Jesus and said, behold the lad of God.
There is a kingdom, there's a promised one, but the
kingdom hadn't come in total prophetic fulfillment. What is our
word here? We've accounted before. It is already the king
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is gone, but not yet.
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It is not here completely. It's an already and are
not yet.
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And Jesus saying, don't be discouraged. That's that last little
phrase there, just.
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This hang in here.
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I brought the kingdom and is already here, but total fulfillment.
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Is not yet, not yet.
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So we see here how Jesus answered these doubts. Big
words we've looked at, have we not big words? Faith
not what we thought it was getting the snowmobile.
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You gotta believe. You gotta believe death.
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If you fall through life, lie to yourself, not in reality,
you'll get on sinking sand. Doubt helps us grow up
in our faith? How does it work itself out? Brennan
Manning got a call one morning from a neighbor. Neighbor said, Brennan,
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would you come over and just spent a little.
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While with my dad. I brought him here.
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He's dying and he just needs someone to visit with
and talk with. He's a great believer, and so Brendan
said sure. So he walked through four doors up wanted
to see the man. His daughter left and they were
in the room and Brennan went to sit down in
a chair there's by his bed, and the man said,
excuse me, would you mind sitting in the chair on
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the other side of my bed, And Brendan's oh, oh, certainly,
I'm sorry. He sat down and he said, perhaps you
wondered why I want you to sit over here and
not over there. He said, well, you know, I thought
maybe that's where you got out of the bed.
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He said, oh no, he said, years ago, I had
trouble praying.
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He said, I devise a system that I would have
a chair and it would be that chair, and I
would imagine Jesus in that chair, and I just told Jesus,
he said, lying here in the bed, I've talked to
Jesus a couple hours a day.
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He said. It helps me to pray, to visualize Jesus.
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And imagine him in that chair and talked him in
that chair. He said, do you think anything's.
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Wrong with that? He said, no, no, I think it's
a good symbol.
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A few weeks went by and Brunner got a call
from the neighbor and said, my dad just died. It
said a strange thing, and said I didn't quite understand it.
But when we found his body, said I'd been in
there with him, and I'd walked out and went back,
and when we found his body, he was dead. He
had so twisted his body that his head was in
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the seat of this chair.
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The Centurion and his.
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Right hand man, end of their life.
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What of Nain.
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And a boy, end of their life. John the Baptist,
end of his life. Their lives ended with their head
in the lap of Jesus.
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