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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time, time, Luck and load. The Michael
Verie Show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I'm going to attempt to do something here that I'm
probably not capable of accomplishing, but that is not going
to stop me from attempting, because like Evil Knievel jumping
the Snake River Canyon in seventy four, or the London
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bus jump or the Caesar's Palace fountains, once you get
it in your mind you're going to do something, You're
going to do it. So I have got it in
my mind. I'm going to accomplish a very noble goal.
And I understand that I'm not going to fail because
of my shortcomings. I'm going to fail because I'm trying
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to make a case that most people.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Will never get. And I don't know why I even try,
but I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
President Trump made a statement after the death of Rob
Reiner and his wife at the hands of his son.
It is widely believed. I don't know that anybody doubts that.
And President Trump made a statement on truth social Let's
leave aside what the Democrats said, because Democrats don't want
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him reducing crime or securing the border, or ending narco
terrorism or anything else. Let's just talk about what Republicans,
even some of his fans, had to say. Now, there
are people in this country, and trust me, I've been
up against this bus saw in twenty sixteen when I
was not a Trump supporter. There are people who, as
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Trump famously said, he could kill somebody on Main Street
at noon and they would still support him. He was
actually making fun of the media when he said that,
not saying it seriously. But let's just take that at
his word. What President Trump has done is created an
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environment where people who secretly don't like him but cannot
criticize him on policy, can criticize him on civility. And
I guess the bigger question you can ask is was
what he said civil? I am going to attempt a
defense of Donald Trump. This is not I am not
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an apologist. This is neither an apology nor an apology.
This is simply an explanation. And it is my hope
that at the end of this explanation you may not
agree that he should have said that, you may wish
that he hadn't. Well, hopefully I can give you a
little better understanding of where I think his head and
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his heart were when he made that statement. We start
with the statement. You can read President Trump's statement. You
can read that he says that that Rob Reiner created
rancor in the country.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I don't think that's in doubt.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
You can read where Rob Reiner made people angry with
his comments. I don't think there's any doubt about that.
And whatever one may think of what the President said, let's,
for a moment explore the context within which he said it.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Shall we.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Let's start with things Rob Reiner said. Now, if your
immediate reaction is doesn't matter. The president needs to be presidential,
damn it. I'm going to tell you something right now.
In the course of my lifetime, I have watched President's quote,
be presidential and destroy this country. That means their hair
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is combed nicely, and their shoes are shined, and their
nails are polished, and their ties tied properly, and it's
the right color, and they have a flagplant pen while
we are invaded by Muslims and illegal aliens, while our
boys are sent over to fight wars and die, and
they tell us we're behind the troops. Yes, America, patriotism America,
Yes presidential, And the music plays and the band strikes
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up and the flag waves, and they're so damned presidential
while our country's being destroyed, squandered, handed away, while Americans
are watching their lives destroyed, their sons killed, lies told.
But God, that's it. They are presidential. I'm tired of presidential.
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I want somebody that's as mad as I am. I
want somebody that's as mad as you are. Now, leaving
aside the fact that Rob Reiner attacked Rush Limball the
day after Rush Limball died as a quote purveyor of disinformation, let.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Me just read you a couple of things that Rob
Reiner said.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Of course he didn't say this about you, so you're
not mad at Rob Reiner.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
You want the president to be presidential.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
You want him to be dignified, like all those other
woosies in Washington, DC, like the National Review and the
bow tack wearing crowd, like the people that all don't
want to offend each other even though we're on different
sides of the aisle, because we're all going to the
same parties, because that is exactly what they care most about,
not you presidential, while their kids get the best opportunities,
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while their families. Nobody ever said Joe Biden wasn't presidential
as he was slobbering all over himself. Oh but Donald
Trump is not presidential. Nobody called Barack Obama not presidentsidential
when he was talking about putting your boots on for
the war in this country on American citizens.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Let me just read you some of the things Rob
Reiner said.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Until Trump goes to prison, I will no longer be
posting on Twitter. I've had it with the insults and
put downs f all you maga a holes. Well he
didn't say that about you, did he? So what are
you now supposed to say? I am saddened by the
death of Rob Reiner, a good man and great director.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
He was a great director. He was also an awful
human being.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
He wrote, Donald Trump is a rapist who led a
deadly insurrection to overthrow the United States government. His followers
don't care. He's about to become a convicted felon. His
followers don't care. If we want to preserve our democracy
this November, the rest of us must care. He didn't
call you a rapist. You ever been called a rapist?
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You ever been called a traitor? You ever had people
trying to put you in prison? Guess what your response
is not to be dignified and say, oh right, ho there,
Oh boy, you make quite a sporting argument of it all.
Rob Reiner wrote, Trump flip flops does one eighties, But
the one thing he's consistent with every day he breaks
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the law.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
You ever had anybody accuse you of a crime.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
The convicted fella president can continue to lie to his followers,
but when the truth starts to affect their lives, they
will abandon him. The difference between Joe Biden and Donald
Trump is Joe Biden is a decent, law abiding person
and Donald Trump is a pathologically lying criminal, the same
Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Who's forget it. I'm not going to argue it.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
He trashed Rush Limbaugh after Rush Limbaugh was dead. Frankly,
I hope they trashed me after I'm dead. Don't worry.
If they trash me after I'm dead, wear it as
a badge of honor. I'll leave a note asking them
to he said. Donald Trump embraced his white supremacy, uses
the presidency to enrich himself, shuts out the media. Welcome
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to nationalist totalitarian oligarchy.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Let me ask you this, were you.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Supposed to say nice things about Osama bin Laden after
we killed Kim Were you supposed to.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
No, you weren't because he was a monster, so was
Rob Ryder. Well, well, lucky you. The Michael Verie Show
continues your lucky Day.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Happy seventy sixth birthday to the lead singer of that
Little Man from Texas Zizi Talk, Duke Billy William Frederick
Gibbons went on this day in nineteen forty nine, started
with the band he started called the Moving Sidewalks, opened
four dates for the Jimmy Hendricks Experience. He goes back
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a minute nineteen sixty nine, founded a band called zz Top.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
They didn't have beards at the time.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
They released their first album in nineteen seventy one, which
was called zz Tops First Album. He's pretty amazing. The
band's pretty amazing. It's been an honor for the city
of Houston to be home to the three now two
of them. Frank Beard, the drummer, lives southwest of town
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in a town called Richmond, but they are legendary in
this town. And as fate would have it, the one
member of the trio doesn't have a beard is named
Frank Beard.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Of course, we lost one of the three.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I guess it's been a little over a year now,
but they are legendary in the town I live in,
of Houston, and they're such a part of the community.
They run marathons here and you know, everybody sees them.
Nobody bothers them. They love tex Mex of course, you
see that in some of the music they play. They've
been around, They've been making music for almost sixty years now. Anyway,
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birthday to Billy Gibbons, A very happy birthday, indeed. So
let's go back to the President, and let's go back
to his comment on Rob Reiner. I have noticed that
a lot of people are very keen that they criticize
Donald Trump for his callous remarks about Rob Reiner. But
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generally these same people didn't criticize Rob Reiner for his
callous remarks over Rush Limbaugh dying. There was this little
game we play in America that I find tiresome and
tawdry and tedious and frankly, downright disgusting. And it goes
like this, when something happens, there is a group of
people who run around saying.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
You have to make a statement about it. And so a.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Staff or an operative a pr company and will write
a statement. So the Mayor of Omaha, if somebody gets
shot in Northeast Scotland, will issue a statement. Mayor of
Omaha's remarks on the shooting in Scotland.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Life is precious.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
We do not support shootings, especially by people who are mad.
We do not, in this process mean to demean Muslims,
who are a critical part of all cultures and always
have been and always will be. We do not mean
to demean anyone else who might have been involved slit
his throat, drank his blood, made a law meal out
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of him, or anything else.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
It is important that we all be nice all the time.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Except when we can't, which we understand. And so these
statements are just issue. They just churns. The whole industry
churn them out, and everybody is supposed to care. And
then there are people who they scour the internet and
something happens that you didn't comment on, that you don't
need to comment on, that, you don't need to have
a comment on every issue. I get people who will
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email me and they want to know why I have
not commented on this or that thing online?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
What do you need do you need to know that?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I find that to be disgusting behavior. Do you have
a checklist of everybody that needs to comment on that,
and my assignment is not in Do you feel incomplete?
Is your file not fulfilled? What exactly do you need
a statement for? So?
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Why does it matter?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Do you need Donald Trump to cry over the grave
of Rob Reiner? Do you need Donald Trump to say
his life was valuable? Do you need Donald Trump to
say of Rob Reiner what Rob Briiner never said about him? Oh,
but he needs to be presidential? Your presidential crap. I'm
sick of it, seck of it. You know, we are
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a nation that sends boys into Afghanistan and Iraq to
be shot to hell. But God forbid when one of
those Taliban members murders one of their buddies in Afghanistan
and they finally pick him off and pee on his body.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Oh well, that's not very proper. I say that's.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I'm trying to have my tea and I can't quite
find the cruppets.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
This is inappropriate. Thou shalt not pee.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
That violates haig or Geneva or one of those conventions
we ought not to urinate on the corpse of the
recently fallen. Okay, well, what about the recently fallen having
killed their buddies. How about his family back home? How
about his mama who won't ever get to see her
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baby boy ever again. How about his dad who can't
figure out how to grieve as a man and so
loses himself in the bottle and dies ten years early
of cirrhosis because he couldn't hope. Well, that doesn't make
a damn bit of difference to anybody.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Just don't piss on the Muslim who killed him, got it.
I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I don't think most people want to play by these
stupid rules.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
All these people in public life.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Oh, National Review, Oh this is this speaks of derangement
by the president.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
You say, oh, this is quite inappropriate. Do you know
William Buckley would never do such a thing? Wilimut. Buckley
has showed us.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
In his manner and disposition not to mention his actions
and scholarship, that such behavior isn't appropriate.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Inappropriate.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
You people have sold our country to every country that
wanted it, and now you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Talk to us about dignity and civility. To hell with you.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
There's a reason there were almost twenty people running for
president in twenty sixteen, and Trump ran away with a thing,
because y'all want a bunch of Jeb Bush type people who,
after they make a statement what we're going to do
is ring by candor.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
On a stir and participation. Two Democrats please cloup, Oh yes,
please clop yes, goff cloup for you, Jeb.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
The kind of people who need an exclamation mark after
their name so you'll know this is an exciting campaign.
The kind of people like Mike Pence who seems to
spend most of his time getting his shoes polished and
his nails done, tying the right tie, saying the right thing,
making sure it's the right lapel pen for this evening's
pack or whatever cause or country is paying the bills
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for this one. No, Trump didn't say the right things
for the polite crowds. Those polite crowds will sell you
and your children and your country down the river.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I'm tired of polite crowds. This is a war.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
They declared war on us right. Ryner declared war. He's
an enemy combat and he got what he deserves. Period
Into story. Smart devices from Michael's Strain, one of them.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Michael by show.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Simmering beneath the surface at all times is the Republican establishment,
country club crowd, civility lovers, the kinds of people who
think this is all a picnic, The kinds of people
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whose communities have been taken over, their institutions have been
taken over, but they dare not fight back. They consider
it a great honor to die quietly, to be vanquished. Look,
if you're going to make an omelet, you're gonna have
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to crack a few eggs. You don't have to lie
what Donald Trump's said, But I dare you to go
through the hell he's gone through as publicly has he has,
and tell me at the end, how presidential you want
to be. He didn't ask Rob Reiner to call him
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a trader. What if it really matters to you to
be called a trader? What if it really matters to
you to have the whole nation here, your name so besmirched.
What if you find out that this guy's been working
behind the scenes to put you in prison. What if
you find out that there are many late night calls
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between all of them, how they can subvert you, how
they can destroy you, And then he dies, Maybe, just
maybe you would jump up and say something really nice.
Maybe you would, but I don't think George Patten would.
I don't think MacArthur would. I don't think Rockney would.
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I don't think that Mike Ditka would. I think there
are certain people who are built of sterner stuff. You
don't get to have the brawler, fearless Donald Trump Monday
through Thursday and turn him off on Friday.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Do you think you could have lived through what he's
lived through?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Continue to get back up, get shot in the head,
have everyone around you turn on you. Have the specter
of prison looming over your head. Have the business empire
you've built all have to be leveraged because Fat Tish,
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the Attorney General of New York, was coordinating with a
judge to take it all away from you. Have your
wife's panty drawers be raided in the home you live
in in Florida, and you moved to Florida because you
were afraid what they'd do to you.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
In New York.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Have Fat Fanny in Atlanta and her boyfriend, hot Dog Nathan,
conspiring with the White House to bring you down. There.
Have Jack Smith, the hired gun of the White House,
coordinating at all. Have the number three of the Department
of Justice sent to New York so that tuble Ard
District Attorney could bring you down. There have people campaigning
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for office under the promise that they would send you
to prison. They didn't know the crime yet, but they'll
find it. How do you think you'd hold up to that?
What kind of man do you think does? What kind
of man do you think holds up to that? You're
not normal when you're that kind of man, You're not typical,
You're not conventional, You're not like you and me.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
You get betrayed at every turn.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
You watch that election stolen from you. You watch everything
you've built, not just your legacy dangling by the preface
precipice and all the people now who are all they're
so offended by these comments that are quite uncivil. Uncivil,
I tell you, Jeeves, please get us another round of
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drinks so that we can continue our discourse on how
uncivil this Trump fellow is quite right, quite right, old boy.
What he's saying is it's simply impremissible. We shan't allow
him in the Republican quarters. We need to bring back
honorable decent man like Mitt Romney. Oh yes, Mitt, Whatever
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happened to Mitt. What a good man was Mitt? Quite
a becoming character, quite fit for all. I'd say, yes,
Mitt would have never done that. He would not have
Mitt would have never done that. Mitt would have never
criticized in this manner. We need a good man like
Mitt Romne or Mike Pence. You say, a man who
knows how to lose with grace. You say, a man
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who dare not criticize in such a manner.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Rob Reiner, I must admit I quite like Rob Bryner
good movies.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
You know. My wife says she likes all his movies,
and so I think the right thing to do is
to pay respect to this man upon his death. You say, yes, yes,
someone says that he was critical of Trump. Well, I
shan't worry with what he said or when he said it.
He's gone now and we must pay our respects proper.
You see, we must all be proper at all times.
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Is you know one of the things about having a
club like this is keeping the riff raff out because
the riff raff does such thing. You know, I'm hearing
that the people are cheering Trump for such remarks. I
don't know how on earth they think this is appropriate.
You say, I think this is not right what he's done.
He is not a he's a he's a bit of
a brute, you say. My wife says, he's a bit
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of a brute. You say, it's like when James called
me him quite quite a decent, honorable man, call me.
You know, when he was head of the FBI, he
said he would come home from the FBI and his
daughters would have tears of streaming down their faces. They
would Daddy, please put that bad man in prison. And
he felt he felt tempetent. He said, he felt impetent
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that he could not put that bad man in prison.
Oh did he ever want to? You say, we need
qualified decent man. You know, old old Billy Clinton. He
had a problem with his zipper home more than he
ever But you know, good man, you see, you say
Clinton was a good man. He understood what it meant.
And you know, Hilary, she's a bit rough around the edges,
I'll say, but she would have never done such a thing.
You say, But this Trump, he's a bit of a brute.
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My wife says, a brute, she says.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
My wife says, you should never.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Support him again. You say, his h he's inappropriate and improper.
You say, he's uh, he's not fit for office. He's
all together wrong for the position. He should be presidential.
And I don't like when he's not presidential. I like
a good man who will lay down his arms, his
guns to plowshares and allow us to be overtaken so
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that I can make an extra dollar.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
You say, but this man, he's a bit of a brute.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I don't want anyone abroad to think that we have
such a swash buckling brute of a president.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
We can't have that. It's not the right image. You see.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
We don't want the ugly American to be broadcast to
the world. They'll start thinking we're a strong nation again.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
You say, like.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Patton, or of one of these, one of these callous men,
or Davy Crockett or Jim Bowie or one of these
loud you know, John Wayne characters.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
You say, I like a proper man, A proper man.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
What I like a gentleman, as they say, I like
a gentleman who who gets his hands clean in his
language not so coarse as this Trump. You see, he's
he's vindictive. He is he's very, very vindictive. Now it's
true they went after him and all. But it's a
bit of a vindictive fellow. I don't like it's unbecoming.
It doesn't it doesn't suit us, you say, wish we
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should be proper. You could you please, uh, could you
please bring us some caviar? Yes, yes, yes, Chris, thank Jeeves.
And we didn't want to like anything else, some dessert,
some coffee, wouldn't want to Yes, we will continue this conversation.
Oh a coronett. Oh oh yeah, okay, all right, yes, yes,
oh clarect Oh yes, of course, yes, yes, of course, snowflakes.
Prepare for a complete meltdown with more of The Michael
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Berry Show. There's a famous line credited to Eric Blair,
better known to the world as George Orwell, that goes,
we sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand
ready in the night to visit violence on those who
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would do us harm. Ever, start and think about that
we sleep soundly in our beds, not just us, our children,
our sons and our daughters, our beautiful wives, the fair
ladies of our lives, whether they be silk sheets or
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it being winter, a warm cover in the air conditioning,
or the heat. So the elements don't bother us. With
no bugs to bother with, water by our beds, stand
after a nice full meal, nice belly, maybe draw up
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a nice bath.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Or a hot shower. We go to bed.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
In the comfort of our homes, by historical standards, our palaces,
and we sleep soundly. We don't worry about things that
go bump in the night. But there are things out there.
There is evil afoot, but we trust that somebody is
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out there dealing with it. And after we use a product,
we throw it in the trash, gross we bag up
the trash, or we put.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
It in a can, and then it just poof, it
goes away.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
We don't like to think about the fact that somebody
had to grab that bag and maybe some of the
drink that you know, got left in there, or the
ice that melted, or the soured wine. As they throw
it gets all over them and they put it in
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the back of that truck that smells awful. And when
it's all done, they go to one of the most
vile places you'll ever.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Visit, the dump. They put it all out there in
the birds or.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Flying around, and there's sand and it's in the air
and it gets on you like a film. But we
don't like to think of those things, do we? We
just like to use our products, drop it in there
and there it goes. When we uh don't like to
think about the men, the garbage men. It's one of
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the lowest positions in society, isn't it, the man who
deals with the garbage. What does nobody dealt with the garbage?
We love to have our steak delivered to our plate.
Oh maybe a little.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I like mine.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
I still like it bleeding, okay. Ever you ever skinned
a deer, You ever gutted a hog. You ever seen
an animal go from hot blooded to blood pouring out?
You ever seen a goat have their throat cut for
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the hullal style of preparation. Are a chicken feathers pulled
off before he's made pretty for you to eat.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Somebody has to do those things. Somebody has to.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Rocky Balboa style work in that freezing cold environment where
the blood is dripping down, and have it all over
them so much so that their hands are a pink
hue and they smell like it, that awful smell. But
that's okay. These are the necessities in order to have
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a nice pork chop delivered in a fancy restaurant with
the fency music playing. Well, we have a nice glass
of wine. What is this the twenty seventeen? Oh, good vintage,
This good vintage. And all of these things are done
so that we can pretend that the world is clean
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and clinical, sterile and beautiful bucolic. Shall I compare thee
to a summer day?
Speaker 1 (29:08):
How pretty the roses.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
On our table, the white tablecloth, as this delicious piece
of meat is delivered, and.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
We don't have to ponder.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
The fact that that animal probably crapped himself while he
was being slaughtered, the fact that that was washed off,
the fact that the flies were brushed away. Oh, these
are things we choose through cognitive dissonance to just separate
out of our mind. Because now we're having a nice dinner.
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Can we just have a nice dinner and not have
to think about all these things? Let's just have a
nice dinner and not have to ponder the potential for
salmonella or stychosis or whatever that crap is.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
It gets into because we don't like to think about
unpleasant things.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Unpleasant things are for someone else to deal with, and
we don't want that guy. We don't want the guy
who works at the butcher's shop. We don't want him
walking through the dining room while we're trying to have dinner.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
He would ruin the aesthetic. He would remind us that
there's an ugly underbelly to all the conveniences we enjoy.
When Trump gets down on the level of the people
who did him harm, he reminds everyone that there's a
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toll to be paid, there's a cost to be born.
This is a dirty business. It's an ugly business. It's
cruel and vicious. But if it's not you they're attacking,
just turn your head and pretend you don't see it,
you know, like all the world Star videos. Maybe get
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your camera out and film it, or turn away and
scurry on so you're not dragged into the ugly. But
Trump can't do that, Kenny. Trump can't just run off.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
See Trump's not like you and me, And thank god
he's not, because he he was like you and me
the first time they impeached him. A matter of days
after he was elected. He would have walked quietly away.
That's what Gary Hart did because he wasn't made of
cerner stuff. But Trump, Trump is unlike anything we've ever seen.
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Even Bill Clinton has to duff his cap.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
To Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
You know, we like the idea that Osama bin And
was taken out is such a bad guy. Do you
realize what you had to do to go into that house?
You had to be ready to murder anybody who got
in your way. May ever think about that your dad,
who served in Vietnam, he witnessed unspeakable things that he
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has never mentioned again. They don't criticize him for that,
they don't assault him for that.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
You don't have to like.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
What Donald Trump says about Rob Reiners passing, but don't
get sucked into the pretty boy Washington salon.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Oh, I'm offended.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
You'd be offended by anything less than Mitt Romney or
Jeb Bush or a Democrat in charge.
It's that time time, time, Luck and load. The Michael
Verie Show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I'm going to attempt to do something here that I'm
probably not capable of accomplishing, but that is not going
to stop me from attempting, because like Evil Knievel jumping
the Snake River Canyon in seventy four, or the London
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bus jump or the Caesar's Palace fountains, once you get
it in your mind you're going to do something, You're
going to do it. So I have got it in
my mind. I'm going to accomplish a very noble goal.
And I understand that I'm not going to fail because
of my shortcomings. I'm going to fail because I'm trying
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to make a case that most people.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Will never get. And I don't know why I even try,
but I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
President Trump made a statement after the death of Rob
Reiner and his wife at the hands of his son.
It is widely believed. I don't know that anybody doubts that.
And President Trump made a statement on truth social Let's
leave aside what the Democrats said, because Democrats don't want
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him reducing crime or securing the border, or ending narco
terrorism or anything else. Let's just talk about what Republicans,
even some of his fans, had to say. Now, there
are people in this country, and trust me, I've been
up against this bus saw in twenty sixteen when I
was not a Trump supporter. There are people who, as
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Trump famously said, he could kill somebody on Main Street
at noon and they would still support him. He was
actually making fun of the media when he said that,
not saying it seriously. But let's just take that at
his word. What President Trump has done is created an
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environment where people who secretly don't like him but cannot
criticize him on policy, can criticize him on civility. And
I guess the bigger question you can ask is was
what he said civil? I am going to attempt a
defense of Donald Trump. This is not I am not
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an apologist. This is neither an apology nor an apology.
This is simply an explanation. And it is my hope
that at the end of this explanation you may not
agree that he should have said that, you may wish
that he hadn't. Well, hopefully I can give you a
little better understanding of where I think his head and
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his heart were when he made that statement. We start
with the statement. You can read President Trump's statement. You
can read that he says that that Rob Reiner created
rancor in the country.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I don't think that's in doubt.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
You can read where Rob Reiner made people angry with
his comments. I don't think there's any doubt about that.
And whatever one may think of what the President said, let's,
for a moment explore the context within which he said it.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Shall we.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Let's start with things Rob Reiner said. Now, if your
immediate reaction is doesn't matter. The president needs to be presidential,
damn it. I'm going to tell you something right now.
In the course of my lifetime, I have watched President's quote,
be presidential and destroy this country. That means their hair
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is combed nicely, and their shoes are shined, and their
nails are polished, and their ties tied properly, and it's
the right color, and they have a flagplant pen while
we are invaded by Muslims and illegal aliens, while our
boys are sent over to fight wars and die, and
they tell us we're behind the troops. Yes, America, patriotism America,
Yes presidential, And the music plays and the band strikes
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up and the flag waves, and they're so damned presidential
while our country's being destroyed, squandered, handed away, while Americans
are watching their lives destroyed, their sons killed, lies told.
But God, that's it. They are presidential. I'm tired of presidential.
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I want somebody that's as mad as I am. I
want somebody that's as mad as you are. Now, leaving
aside the fact that Rob Reiner attacked Rush Limball the
day after Rush Limball died as a quote purveyor of disinformation, let.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Me just read you a couple of things that Rob
Reiner said.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Of course he didn't say this about you, so you're
not mad at Rob Reiner.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
You want the president to be presidential.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
You want him to be dignified, like all those other
woosies in Washington, DC, like the National Review and the
bow tack wearing crowd, like the people that all don't
want to offend each other even though we're on different
sides of the aisle, because we're all going to the
same parties, because that is exactly what they care most about,
not you presidential, while their kids get the best opportunities,
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while their families. Nobody ever said Joe Biden wasn't presidential
as he was slobbering all over himself. Oh but Donald
Trump is not presidential. Nobody called Barack Obama not presidentsidential
when he was talking about putting your boots on for
the war in this country on American citizens.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Let me just read you some of the things Rob
Reiner said.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Until Trump goes to prison, I will no longer be
posting on Twitter. I've had it with the insults and
put downs f all you maga a holes. Well he
didn't say that about you, did he? So what are
you now supposed to say? I am saddened by the
death of Rob Reiner, a good man and great director.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
He was a great director. He was also an awful
human being.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
He wrote, Donald Trump is a rapist who led a
deadly insurrection to overthrow the United States government. His followers
don't care. He's about to become a convicted felon. His
followers don't care. If we want to preserve our democracy
this November, the rest of us must care. He didn't
call you a rapist. You ever been called a rapist?
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You ever been called a traitor? You ever had people
trying to put you in prison? Guess what your response
is not to be dignified and say, oh right, ho there,
Oh boy, you make quite a sporting argument of it all.
Rob Reiner wrote, Trump flip flops does one eighties, But
the one thing he's consistent with every day he breaks
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the law.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
You ever had anybody accuse you of a crime.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
The convicted fella president can continue to lie to his followers,
but when the truth starts to affect their lives, they
will abandon him. The difference between Joe Biden and Donald
Trump is Joe Biden is a decent, law abiding person
and Donald Trump is a pathologically lying criminal, the same
Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Who's forget it. I'm not going to argue it.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
He trashed Rush Limbaugh after Rush Limbaugh was dead. Frankly,
I hope they trashed me after I'm dead. Don't worry.
If they trash me after I'm dead, wear it as
a badge of honor. I'll leave a note asking them
to he said. Donald Trump embraced his white supremacy, uses
the presidency to enrich himself, shuts out the media. Welcome
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to nationalist totalitarian oligarchy.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Let me ask you this, were you.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Supposed to say nice things about Osama bin Laden after
we killed Kim Were you supposed to.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
No, you weren't because he was a monster, so was
Rob Ryder. Well, well, lucky you. The Michael Verie Show
continues your lucky Day.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Happy seventy sixth birthday to the lead singer of that
Little Man from Texas Zizi Talk, Duke Billy William Frederick
Gibbons went on this day in nineteen forty nine, started
with the band he started called the Moving Sidewalks, opened
four dates for the Jimmy Hendricks Experience. He goes back
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a minute nineteen sixty nine, founded a band called zz Top.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
They didn't have beards at the time.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
They released their first album in nineteen seventy one, which
was called zz Tops First Album. He's pretty amazing. The
band's pretty amazing. It's been an honor for the city
of Houston to be home to the three now two
of them. Frank Beard, the drummer, lives southwest of town
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in a town called Richmond, but they are legendary in
this town. And as fate would have it, the one
member of the trio doesn't have a beard is named
Frank Beard.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Of course, we lost one of the three.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I guess it's been a little over a year now,
but they are legendary in the town I live in,
of Houston, and they're such a part of the community.
They run marathons here and you know, everybody sees them.
Nobody bothers them. They love tex Mex of course, you
see that in some of the music they play. They've
been around, They've been making music for almost sixty years now. Anyway,
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birthday to Billy Gibbons, A very happy birthday, indeed. So
let's go back to the President, and let's go back
to his comment on Rob Reiner. I have noticed that
a lot of people are very keen that they criticize
Donald Trump for his callous remarks about Rob Reiner. But
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generally these same people didn't criticize Rob Reiner for his
callous remarks over Rush Limbaugh dying. There was this little
game we play in America that I find tiresome and
tawdry and tedious and frankly, downright disgusting. And it goes
like this, when something happens, there is a group of
people who run around saying.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
You have to make a statement about it. And so a.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Staff or an operative a pr company and will write
a statement. So the Mayor of Omaha, if somebody gets
shot in Northeast Scotland, will issue a statement. Mayor of
Omaha's remarks on the shooting in Scotland.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Life is precious.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
We do not support shootings, especially by people who are mad.
We do not, in this process mean to demean Muslims,
who are a critical part of all cultures and always
have been and always will be. We do not mean
to demean anyone else who might have been involved slit
his throat, drank his blood, made a law meal out
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of him, or anything else.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
It is important that we all be nice all the time.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Except when we can't, which we understand. And so these
statements are just issue. They just churns. The whole industry
churn them out, and everybody is supposed to care. And
then there are people who they scour the internet and
something happens that you didn't comment on, that you don't
need to comment on, that, you don't need to have
a comment on every issue. I get people who will
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email me and they want to know why I have
not commented on this or that thing online?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
What do you need do you need to know that?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I find that to be disgusting behavior. Do you have
a checklist of everybody that needs to comment on that,
and my assignment is not in Do you feel incomplete?
Is your file not fulfilled? What exactly do you need
a statement for? So?
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Why does it matter?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Do you need Donald Trump to cry over the grave
of Rob Reiner? Do you need Donald Trump to say
his life was valuable? Do you need Donald Trump to
say of Rob Reiner what Rob Briiner never said about him? Oh,
but he needs to be presidential? Your presidential crap. I'm
sick of it, seck of it. You know, we are
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a nation that sends boys into Afghanistan and Iraq to
be shot to hell. But God forbid when one of
those Taliban members murders one of their buddies in Afghanistan
and they finally pick him off and pee on his body.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Oh well, that's not very proper. I say that's.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I'm trying to have my tea and I can't quite
find the cruppets.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
This is inappropriate. Thou shalt not pee.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
That violates haig or Geneva or one of those conventions
we ought not to urinate on the corpse of the
recently fallen. Okay, well, what about the recently fallen having
killed their buddies. How about his family back home? How
about his mama who won't ever get to see her
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baby boy ever again. How about his dad who can't
figure out how to grieve as a man and so
loses himself in the bottle and dies ten years early
of cirrhosis because he couldn't hope. Well, that doesn't make
a damn bit of difference to anybody.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Just don't piss on the Muslim who killed him, got it.
I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I don't think most people want to play by these
stupid rules.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
All these people in public life.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Oh, National Review, Oh this is this speaks of derangement
by the president.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
You say, oh, this is quite inappropriate. Do you know
William Buckley would never do such a thing? Wilimut. Buckley
has showed us.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
In his manner and disposition not to mention his actions
and scholarship, that such behavior isn't appropriate.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Inappropriate.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
You people have sold our country to every country that
wanted it, and now you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Talk to us about dignity and civility. To hell with you.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
There's a reason there were almost twenty people running for
president in twenty sixteen, and Trump ran away with a thing,
because y'all want a bunch of Jeb Bush type people who,
after they make a statement what we're going to do
is ring by candor.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
On a stir and participation. Two Democrats please cloup, Oh yes,
please clop yes, goff cloup for you, Jeb.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
The kind of people who need an exclamation mark after
their name so you'll know this is an exciting campaign.
The kind of people like Mike Pence who seems to
spend most of his time getting his shoes polished and
his nails done, tying the right tie, saying the right thing,
making sure it's the right lapel pen for this evening's
pack or whatever cause or country is paying the bills
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for this one. No, Trump didn't say the right things
for the polite crowds. Those polite crowds will sell you
and your children and your country down the river.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I'm tired of polite crowds. This is a war.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
They declared war on us right. Ryner declared war. He's
an enemy combat and he got what he deserves. Period
Into story. Smart devices from Michael's Strain, one of them.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Michael by show.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Simmering beneath the surface at all times is the Republican establishment,
country club crowd, civility lovers, the kinds of people who
think this is all a picnic, The kinds of people
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whose communities have been taken over, their institutions have been
taken over, but they dare not fight back. They consider
it a great honor to die quietly, to be vanquished. Look,
if you're going to make an omelet, you're gonna have
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to crack a few eggs. You don't have to lie
what Donald Trump's said, But I dare you to go
through the hell he's gone through as publicly has he has,
and tell me at the end, how presidential you want
to be. He didn't ask Rob Reiner to call him
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a trader. What if it really matters to you to
be called a trader? What if it really matters to
you to have the whole nation here, your name so besmirched.
What if you find out that this guy's been working
behind the scenes to put you in prison. What if
you find out that there are many late night calls
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between all of them, how they can subvert you, how
they can destroy you, And then he dies, Maybe, just
maybe you would jump up and say something really nice.
Maybe you would, but I don't think George Patten would.
I don't think MacArthur would. I don't think Rockney would.
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I don't think that Mike Ditka would. I think there
are certain people who are built of sterner stuff. You
don't get to have the brawler, fearless Donald Trump Monday
through Thursday and turn him off on Friday.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Do you think you could have lived through what he's
lived through?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Continue to get back up, get shot in the head,
have everyone around you turn on you. Have the specter
of prison looming over your head. Have the business empire
you've built all have to be leveraged because Fat Tish,
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the Attorney General of New York, was coordinating with a
judge to take it all away from you. Have your
wife's panty drawers be raided in the home you live
in in Florida, and you moved to Florida because you
were afraid what they'd do to you.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
In New York.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Have Fat Fanny in Atlanta and her boyfriend, hot Dog Nathan,
conspiring with the White House to bring you down. There.
Have Jack Smith, the hired gun of the White House,
coordinating at all. Have the number three of the Department
of Justice sent to New York so that tuble Ard
District Attorney could bring you down. There have people campaigning
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for office under the promise that they would send you
to prison. They didn't know the crime yet, but they'll
find it. How do you think you'd hold up to that?
What kind of man do you think does? What kind
of man do you think holds up to that? You're
not normal when you're that kind of man, You're not typical,
You're not conventional, You're not like you and me.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
You get betrayed at every turn.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
You watch that election stolen from you. You watch everything
you've built, not just your legacy dangling by the preface
precipice and all the people now who are all they're
so offended by these comments that are quite uncivil. Uncivil,
I tell you, Jeeves, please get us another round of
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drinks so that we can continue our discourse on how
uncivil this Trump fellow is quite right, quite right, old boy.
What he's saying is it's simply impremissible. We shan't allow
him in the Republican quarters. We need to bring back
honorable decent man like Mitt Romney. Oh yes, Mitt, Whatever
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happened to Mitt. What a good man was Mitt? Quite
a becoming character, quite fit for all. I'd say, yes,
Mitt would have never done that. He would not have
Mitt would have never done that. Mitt would have never
criticized in this manner. We need a good man like
Mitt Romne or Mike Pence. You say, a man who
knows how to lose with grace. You say, a man
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who dare not criticize in such a manner.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Rob Reiner, I must admit I quite like Rob Bryner
good movies.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
You know. My wife says she likes all his movies,
and so I think the right thing to do is
to pay respect to this man upon his death. You say, yes, yes,
someone says that he was critical of Trump. Well, I
shan't worry with what he said or when he said it.
He's gone now and we must pay our respects proper.
You see, we must all be proper at all times.
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Is you know one of the things about having a
club like this is keeping the riff raff out because
the riff raff does such thing. You know, I'm hearing
that the people are cheering Trump for such remarks. I
don't know how on earth they think this is appropriate.
You say, I think this is not right what he's done.
He is not a he's a he's a bit of
a brute, you say. My wife says, he's a bit
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of a brute. You say, it's like when James called
me him quite quite a decent, honorable man, call me.
You know, when he was head of the FBI, he
said he would come home from the FBI and his
daughters would have tears of streaming down their faces. They
would Daddy, please put that bad man in prison. And
he felt he felt tempetent. He said, he felt impetent
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that he could not put that bad man in prison.
Oh did he ever want to? You say, we need
qualified decent man. You know, old old Billy Clinton. He
had a problem with his zipper home more than he
ever But you know, good man, you see, you say
Clinton was a good man. He understood what it meant.
And you know, Hilary, she's a bit rough around the edges,
I'll say, but she would have never done such a thing.
You say, But this Trump, he's a bit of a brute.
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My wife says, a brute, she says.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
My wife says, you should never.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Support him again. You say, his h he's inappropriate and improper.
You say, he's uh, he's not fit for office. He's
all together wrong for the position. He should be presidential.
And I don't like when he's not presidential. I like
a good man who will lay down his arms, his
guns to plowshares and allow us to be overtaken so
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that I can make an extra dollar.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
You say, but this man, he's a bit of a brute.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I don't want anyone abroad to think that we have
such a swash buckling brute of a president.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
We can't have that. It's not the right image. You see.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
We don't want the ugly American to be broadcast to
the world. They'll start thinking we're a strong nation again.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
You say, like.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Patton, or of one of these, one of these callous men,
or Davy Crockett or Jim Bowie or one of these
loud you know, John Wayne characters.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
You say, I like a proper man, A proper man.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
What I like a gentleman, as they say, I like
a gentleman who who gets his hands clean in his
language not so coarse as this Trump. You see, he's
he's vindictive. He is he's very, very vindictive. Now it's
true they went after him and all. But it's a
bit of a vindictive fellow. I don't like it's unbecoming.
It doesn't it doesn't suit us, you say, wish we
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should be proper. You could you please, uh, could you
please bring us some caviar? Yes, yes, yes, Chris, thank Jeeves.
And we didn't want to like anything else, some dessert,
some coffee, wouldn't want to Yes, we will continue this conversation.
Oh a coronett. Oh oh yeah, okay, all right, yes, yes,
oh clarect Oh yes, of course, yes, yes, of course, snowflakes.
Prepare for a complete meltdown with more of The Michael
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Berry Show. There's a famous line credited to Eric Blair,
better known to the world as George Orwell, that goes,
we sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand
ready in the night to visit violence on those who
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would do us harm. Ever, start and think about that
we sleep soundly in our beds, not just us, our children,
our sons and our daughters, our beautiful wives, the fair
ladies of our lives, whether they be silk sheets or
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it being winter, a warm cover in the air conditioning,
or the heat. So the elements don't bother us. With
no bugs to bother with, water by our beds, stand
after a nice full meal, nice belly, maybe draw up
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a nice bath.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Or a hot shower. We go to bed.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
In the comfort of our homes, by historical standards, our palaces,
and we sleep soundly. We don't worry about things that
go bump in the night. But there are things out there.
There is evil afoot, but we trust that somebody is
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out there dealing with it. And after we use a product,
we throw it in the trash, gross we bag up
the trash, or we put.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
It in a can, and then it just poof, it
goes away.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
We don't like to think about the fact that somebody
had to grab that bag and maybe some of the
drink that you know, got left in there, or the
ice that melted, or the soured wine. As they throw
it gets all over them and they put it in
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the back of that truck that smells awful. And when
it's all done, they go to one of the most
vile places you'll ever.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Visit, the dump. They put it all out there in
the birds or.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Flying around, and there's sand and it's in the air
and it gets on you like a film. But we
don't like to think of those things, do we? We
just like to use our products, drop it in there
and there it goes. When we uh don't like to
think about the men, the garbage men. It's one of
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the lowest positions in society, isn't it, the man who
deals with the garbage. What does nobody dealt with the garbage?
We love to have our steak delivered to our plate.
Oh maybe a little.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I like mine.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
I still like it bleeding, okay. Ever you ever skinned
a deer, You ever gutted a hog. You ever seen
an animal go from hot blooded to blood pouring out?
You ever seen a goat have their throat cut for
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the hullal style of preparation. Are a chicken feathers pulled
off before he's made pretty for you to eat.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Somebody has to do those things. Somebody has to.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Rocky Balboa style work in that freezing cold environment where
the blood is dripping down, and have it all over
them so much so that their hands are a pink
hue and they smell like it, that awful smell. But
that's okay. These are the necessities in order to have
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a nice pork chop delivered in a fancy restaurant with
the fency music playing. Well, we have a nice glass
of wine. What is this the twenty seventeen? Oh, good vintage,
This good vintage. And all of these things are done
so that we can pretend that the world is clean
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and clinical, sterile and beautiful bucolic. Shall I compare thee
to a summer day?
Speaker 1 (29:08):
How pretty the roses.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
On our table, the white tablecloth, as this delicious piece
of meat is delivered, and.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
We don't have to ponder.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
The fact that that animal probably crapped himself while he
was being slaughtered, the fact that that was washed off,
the fact that the flies were brushed away. Oh, these
are things we choose through cognitive dissonance to just separate
out of our mind. Because now we're having a nice dinner.
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Can we just have a nice dinner and not have
to think about all these things? Let's just have a
nice dinner and not have to ponder the potential for
salmonella or stychosis or whatever that crap is.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
It gets into because we don't like to think about
unpleasant things.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Unpleasant things are for someone else to deal with, and
we don't want that guy. We don't want the guy
who works at the butcher's shop. We don't want him
walking through the dining room while we're trying to have dinner.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
He would ruin the aesthetic. He would remind us that
there's an ugly underbelly to all the conveniences we enjoy.
When Trump gets down on the level of the people
who did him harm, he reminds everyone that there's a
(30:41):
toll to be paid, there's a cost to be born.
This is a dirty business. It's an ugly business. It's
cruel and vicious. But if it's not you they're attacking,
just turn your head and pretend you don't see it,
you know, like all the world Star videos. Maybe get
(31:04):
your camera out and film it, or turn away and
scurry on so you're not dragged into the ugly. But
Trump can't do that, Kenny. Trump can't just run off.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
See Trump's not like you and me, And thank god
he's not, because he he was like you and me
the first time they impeached him. A matter of days
after he was elected. He would have walked quietly away.
That's what Gary Hart did because he wasn't made of
cerner stuff. But Trump, Trump is unlike anything we've ever seen.
(31:48):
Even Bill Clinton has to duff his cap.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
To Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
You know, we like the idea that Osama bin And
was taken out is such a bad guy. Do you
realize what you had to do to go into that house?
You had to be ready to murder anybody who got
in your way. May ever think about that your dad,
who served in Vietnam, he witnessed unspeakable things that he
(32:20):
has never mentioned again. They don't criticize him for that,
they don't assault him for that.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
You don't have to like.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
What Donald Trump says about Rob Reiners passing, but don't
get sucked into the pretty boy Washington salon.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Oh, I'm offended.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
You'd be offended by anything less than Mitt Romney or
Jeb Bush or a Democrat in charge.
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