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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Michael Barry Joe So a very warm Marine Corps
round of applause for Jim Moriarty.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Now you guys know I'm a trial order, right.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I get paid by the word. You probably ought to
order some more beer. This may take a while. I'm
sure I'm not the only parent who's lost his son
or daughter in war. Any other gold star parents in here, anybody,
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I can tell you it sucks.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I plan one speech, but I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Tell another now that I've heard what he would like
to hear. It's November fourth. My son's on his third
deployment in Jordan.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
And he was safe.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Jordan's one of our chief allies. And I never went
to bed and lost any sleep whatsoever worried about my son.
He was a consummate professional staff sergeant in the United
States Army Special Forces, and he was a stud I
would have hoped that he would have gone in the
Marine Corps. And he actually went down and applied to
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get in the Marine Corps and asked him who his
mother was, and asked him who his father was, and
he knew both, so they wouldn't take him. So as
sort of a consolation prize, he goes into the army,
and frankly, I bitterly opposed that Jimmy had a dad
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bod and he was a fraternity boy. He grew up
as little rich white and I'm thinking they're going to
eat him for breakfast. And I failed to give him
credit for being the extraordinary young man he was, but
he was a superb and a consummate soldier. Susan and
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I were out at a business meeting and I hear
on NPR that three soldiers had been shot one killed
in Jordan, and it was like somebody had driven a
silver steak through my heart. I knew that we had
about a thousand people in Jordan, but they were describing
someone exactly like my son. I called his older sister
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and I said, you need to call Jimbo right now
and make sure he's safe. And she said, Dad, it's
the middle of the night. And I said, I don't
give a shit if it's the middle of to night,
call him and wake his ass up.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I want to know he's safe, and.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
She did, but they locked down communications when there's a death,
so we couldn't get through to him. And then I
reasoned through because I knew that they would send army
people out to the house. I reasoned through the longer
that we go without hearing anything, the better, and statistically
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we should have been in pretty good shape three out
of a thousand.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Well.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I went to bed early that night, and I prayed
that I would sleep that night soundly. Nine thirty or
ten o'clock the phone rings. My daughter, who's in Columbia,
calls and says, Dad, it was Jim. And I stayed
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up all night crying and looking at pictures of my son.
When the army guys showed up, I said, I got
two questions, who killed him?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
And why?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Because I wanted to square it counts. They didn't know,
They had no idea. So I go get on Google
and I check and I read and the New York
Times is run a piece on it, and they say
that there were mistakes made at the gate.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And I said to myself, that's horseshit. Now that's a
technical legal term.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
For those of y'all have never heard that phrase before.
We use it all the time, especially with judges. I
know my son, my son was like all of these
kids and special Forces and recon and special ops. They
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are our finest children. They're the finest young people. In
our country, and they have extraordinary training. And I knew
that there weren't any mistakes made at the gate. So
I tracked down and I've sort of went into my
typical trial lawyer mode.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I was going to square accounts. And so.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I tracked down Peter Baker, who was the New York
Times reporter in Jerusalem, and I called him and I said, Peter,
that story's bullshit. My son did not run the gate.
There weren't mistakes made at the gate. He was murdered
by someone, and we need to find out who it was,
and we need to find out why they did it.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
So he wrote.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Another story and that changed a little bit, and now
the Jordanians claimed that their first lie was there was
mistakes made at the gate. The second lie the Jordanians
are so called allies that we give a billion and
a half dollars a year or two of our taxpayer's money.
The second lie that Jordanians came up with was they
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were drinking.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Well, that was horseshit. It was noontime. They were out.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
They were doing this CIA program where they were training
these so called Syrian rebels. They were going to Eastern
Europe and buying Communist block weapons, bringing that stuff into
into Jordan where they were training these so called Syrian
Syrian rebels. Now, just ask yourself, has anybody ever seen
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any other instances in our lifetime when we've trained these
young Muslim males how to fight and giving them weapons
and seeing how that turned out. Well, it's turning out
the same way in Syrium. So we have the narrative.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Changed a little bit.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
And then two weeks later there's a Washington Post story
that comes out, and this time the Jordanians are claiming
there's an accidental discharge. Well, I don't want to embarrass
myself in front of you guys, but I'm a gun nut.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
People say, if you got too much, m My answer is,
if you haven't run out, you damn sure don't have
too much. With all due respects, my son had fired
more around before he ever went into the army. Then
most people fire when they're out of the army. There
was no accidental discharge. I knew to a certainty that
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wasn't true. And now I find out that the FBI
is pushing back on him because they had gone over
and done an inspection, inspected the vehicle. So I call
that reporter, and I tracked that reporter down and I
get the story straight in. Then I discovered that there's
a video of the shootout, objective evidence of what really happened. Well,
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they wouldn't show us the video. Then this was Who's
killed in early November, and he's buried at Arlington in December.
But it's the end of February before we see the video,
and we go to Washington and we get a briefing
by the FBI and the Army, and I see the
video and I'm matter in a wet hen they assassinated
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Brian McEnroe's son, Kevin, and they as fascinated Matt Llewellen.
You can go watch the video. I forced the King
of Jordan to release the friggin video. You can watch
the video. And they assassinated those two boys, and then
they spent the next five minutes stalking my son and
the survivor, and my son and the survivor fought back brilliantly. Well,
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nobody's going to kill my son and get away with it.
I would track them down to the end of the
earth and kill them myself if I could, so, I
go up and I see this FBI briefing. I see
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this video and I'm outraged. After I see the video,
I promptly set a press conference at the National Press
Club for the next week where I was going to
release the Army report and I was going to put
significant heat on Jordan, and I did so of Ted Poe,
and I hope many of you know in respect to
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Ted Poe was Ted Poe had called me. We'd been
friends for decades, and he said, what can I do?
And I said, you can make those son of bitches
apologize for murdering our boys.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Three Green Berets from the fifth Special Forces Group were
killed in support of Operation Inherent Resolved. One of those
heroic men was twenty seven year old Staff Sergeant James
Jimmy Moriorty. To be clear, neither the family nor myself
were satisfied that we have received all the facts about
the death of those three Green Berets.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
So he calls the ambassador from Jordan, and the ambassador
from Jordan writes a letter. Now again this is a
technical legal term and one that you've probably never heard before,
a chicken chip letter, claiming that mistakes were made. Sometimes
things happen in war, and it was the most meatily
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mouth excuse for the murder of three Americans I've ever seen,
and that made me even matter.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
So I hold this press.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Conference, this letter comes out, and I'm blasting Jordan in
this this ambassador at this press conference. Well, Trump was
having a urinating contest with the CIA that day, so
we got no television coverage, but several print reporters did
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good stories and they came out and for the first
time the narrative of.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
What really happened began to be told.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Ted calls me, and about this time, the King of
Jordan comes over with his hand out, wanting more of
our taxpayer money. And Trump meets with him. And now
I will say this, and I will will give great
credit to General Dumford. General Mattis Dumfert's the chairman chairman
of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. I insisted that I
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wanted to know how high in our government as somebody
seen this video, and I wanted Trump to see the video.
They said, well, we don't know, but I said, well,
you need to find out. So they went over and
an army general personally showed that video to Mattis, and
Madis was pissed. And so now We've got our highest
level officials in the military saying why are you murdering
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our soldiers. So then and the Poe calls me and says, well,
the King's going to write a letter saying he's sorry.
And I said, well fine, And so they write this letter.
And I've got my own sources in the agency and
my own sources and special forces. Those people are extraordinary,
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even if they can't be Marines. And so I knew
what the letter was going to say before the letter
came around.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
And so.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Congressman Poet says, well, they've got this letter from the
king and they once made it delivered. And I said,
don't you dare deliver that letter? He said, what do
I tell him? I said, do you tell it? I
won't use the phrase blankety blank ambassador to get her
ass on an airplane and she can fly her ass
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to Missouri and she can meet with that family and
say she's sorry, and she can fly down and Cheek
meet with my family and say she's sorry, and she
can fly down to Florida and meet with Brian's family
and tell them she's sorry.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Well, it was.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Another mealy mouth letter, and so a couple of the
people videoed it. Those videos are on YouTube. We're all
still madding wet hens. Not only did they assassinate our boys,
but they lied about it, and they lied about it,
and they lied about it, and they lied about it. Well,
here's where the press comes in. And let me say this.
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I've looked her around the place and I figured out
I'm the only Democrat. Here's here's what the press does.
And let me say, in my view, one of the
great institutions of our life, besides the military, that still works,
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is some of the press. Now, I personally sued CNN
and AOL time order. I took Peter Arnett's deposition, and
he's a lion bastard if that comes as surprised to
ANYU that served in Vietnam. But there's a part of
the press that works. There's a great deal of the
press that works very well. I'd worked for the mayor
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in Houston for seven or eight years. Andrew White's friend
of mine, so I wrote an opt ed piece for
the Houston Chronicle.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
She shares that with a famous.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Houston Chronicle reporter named Joe Holly. Joe Holly shares it
with his son, who's Washington Post reporter and so I
get a call from Peter Holly the Washington Post, and
he wants to write a story about Jimbo, which would
really be what I call a puff piece. Now, my
son was an extraordinary kid, but the story was going
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to be Jimmy Moriarty's a really good kid. He was
a really good kid. But they were going to do
this story. He calls the the Jordanian ambassador. She gets
into a panic because they can't get embarrassed in DC
because if we do, we'll cut off their allowance. So
the Jordanian ambassador now writes the letter and says, oh,
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we just discovered our guy I was acting outside the
rules of engagement and we're going to criminally prosecute. So
I'm going, okay, that's a good start. So two or
three weeks later, they start the trial and I go
to the trial. I've called the FBI and I said.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
I want to know what's going on, and I want to.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Know what kind of support we're going to get, and
they give immediately mouth bureaucratic excuses, and I said, let
me explain to you. It is my ass is going
to be on an airplane going to Jordan if I
don't get a call from you by noon tomorrow, and
five o'clock that night, my ass is on an airplane
flying to Jordan. Now I figure they're going to do
one or two things. They're going to kill me, or
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they're going to roll out of red carpet. You know, well,
we never die but once, so you know, shit happens.
So I get there and they roll out of red carpet.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Now I'm going on.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
If I'm probably going to beat the thirty five minute record.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I didn't really mean to do this.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I get there and they roll out the red carpet,
and the the our State Department people and the FBI said,
we don't have a First Amendment right of free speech
over here. They'll put you in jail for bad mouth
and the king. They do put people in jail for
bed mouth and the king. The trial secret and you
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can't talk about it. And I say to myself, they've
never met a marine. So I go back and I'm
in the judges chambers. The judges chambers is about as big.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
As this area up here.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
And he's sitting up here, and there's a bunch of
junior officers over here, and there's State Department people here,
and We're sitting over here, and I figure out who
the reporter is. There's an AP reporter and I've been
talking to them, so I go over it and I'm
literally being interviewed by this AP reporter in the judges
chambers in this freaking secret trial, like I'm going to
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honor that, and they figure out what I'm doing and
they just pop a cork and I think of well,
I probably have going to jail, but again, that wasn't
going to slow me down.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
They've run the reporter out.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
She goes out in the chambers and I said, okay,
we finish up today.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Come back to the hotel. Here's where I'm staying.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Bring your camera crew because I'm going to do an
interview and We're going to put this shit on television
for it.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Just never quits, It never goes away. I like to
think of myself as tough and stolic, and but I
can listen to Brian and break it in tears.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
So there wasn't any more secret trial after that. There
wasn't any more sealed evidence. There wasn't anything we could
talk about, and this young man did not go to
jail for bedmouth and the King. I saved some of
that for when I came back. I will tell you,
and I want to make you guys proud for what
I did as a marine. I will tell you that
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I love these Special Forces guys that my son served with.
They are absolutely remarkable and they have been faithful and
true and supportive of me and my family, and I
love them with a passion. I figured out that the
Jordanian Air Force was paying for the hotel and the meal.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
And the bar bill.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
So I put out a call to Fifth Special Forces
and I said, I want every swing and you know what.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
To come to the hotel tonight.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
The liquors on me and I ran up a seven
hundred and fifty dollars bar bill.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
It got stuck.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I wasn't sure I was going to tell you that
because I was afraid if I admitted to you that
I ran up a seven hundred and fifty dollars bar
bill for a bunch of army weenis, you'd think less
of me.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
But it's the truth. So that's what happened.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
I want to close on where I wanted to go
with this talk.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I was not prepared to have my son die at
war he was in Jordan.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I never lost a night's sleep, and I was completely
unprepared for what happened, and I was in serious shock
after it happened.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
The support of.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
The United States Army, the support of our government, the
support of the press, the support of everybody in America
has been absolutely remarkable.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
And I will tell you I will not live long enough.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
To say thank you for everybody that has done things
for my family and done things to honor my son.
They routinely bring me to tears. I was in tears
when Michael called.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I'll tell you about.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
One little story and then we're going to go back
to drinking. There's a guy named Ken Pridgin down in Baytown.
He's like eighty six years old, and he's got like
a couple of grand a month that he gets from
Social Security, and that's what he lives on.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
And he's a brilliant painter.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
He has painted paintings, you know what I'm talking about.
He's painted paintings of hundreds, hundreds of our wounded or
our dead soldiers and sailors, Marines.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Air Force.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
He painted one for Jimmy, and he painted one for
Matt and for Kevin. He called me down and asked
me to come down because they were Television was going
to do a story on Budweiser that had saved all
of the paintings in his shop, and so I went
down there for that. I can't tell you what it
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meant to me as a father that someone would honor
my son, not for money, not for recognition, but just
to do something for my family that fine and ask
for nothing in return. Ken Pridgin is an American hero.
I can't tell you how much that meant to me.
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And I hope all of you will go on Facebook
and look him up and say something to him. Now
you this, I did do what any Marine would do.
I was invited to the White House, and I was
at the White House two weeks ago when the President
awarded the Medal of Honor to Gary Michael Rose, who
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was one of the guys on Operation Tailwind, where that
case where I had sued aol Time Warner and CNN
and Peter Arnett.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
So they awarded Rose to the Medal of Honor.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
And I mentioned this to Ken when I was down
in his shop, because he had these paintings of these
Medal of Honor winners, and I said, well, you ought
to do one for Mike Rose, and he talked about
how incredible it was that he got to meet these people.
I said, well, speaking about meeting these people, how would
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you like to go to the White House? And he
thought I was kidding, and I said, how would you
like to go to the White House?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
How would you like to.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Be there when the President awards Mike Rose Medal of Honor?
And he said, well, I'd be absolutely thrilled to death. Well,
there were two more people that we could add to
the list, so I added him and I edited his
cohortened crime. Then he called me the next day and
said I can't go. And I said why can't you go?
And he said because I can't afford it. I don't
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have any money. And I said what do you need?
And he says, I need a place at a hotel
and a airline ticket. I said, okay, I'll call you
back in ten minutes. So I called the Special Forces Association,
who's been absolutely as good as gold. Special Forces Association
paid for.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
His way to Washington. We can't do enough for those people.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Who honor our children and who protect our children, but
I figured y'all to expect that of me because I'm
a marine.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Thank you very much, for your time.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
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