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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time, time, time, luck and load.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
So Michael Very Show is on the air.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
I'm all American.

Speaker 4 (00:15):
I'm flee to tell you today that that signed legislation
without law Russia forever. We'll get him robbing in five minutes.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
If I get to like it. Someone made around long.

Speaker 5 (00:28):
I notice where you get their dislikes and someone standing
around for a long names.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
God's got a lot of pick up.

Speaker 5 (00:35):
It's got a cop motor, a four hundred and forty
cubic inch plant.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
It's got cop tires, cop suspension, cop shocks. It's a
model made.

Speaker 6 (00:42):
Before catalytic converters, so it'll run good on regular guas.

Speaker 5 (00:46):
What do you say is that the new bluesmobile or
one takes a cigarette lighter.

Speaker 6 (00:49):
I sure appreciate it, sir, if you could find it
in your heart to hang him out Bay's neck until
he was digging.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Boy escalated quickly. I was just explaining to your better
half here. When we were tunneling out, we happen to
hit the main sewer line.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Dumb luck that and we followed that busted out of
gym No Man Pop.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
We released her chas on our own recalls.

Speaker 7 (01:10):
Inspective.

Speaker 8 (01:21):
Nancy Reagan died on this day ten years ago. Here
is probably her legacy as much as being the forty
second first Lady of the United States. They just say no,
uh program Nancy Reagan and Clint Eastwood.

Speaker 9 (01:39):
In the next few months, the motion picture industry and
theater owners will be bringing you a series of messages
like the one you just saw. I don't think anybody
will miss the point. The thrill can kill. The drug
dealers need to know that we want them out of
our schools, neighborhoods, and our lives. The only way to

(02:00):
do that is to take the customers away from the product.
Say no to drugs and say yes to life.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
Of course, your local drug pusher may tell you a
little something different about these drugs and who you believe
is up to you. But then again, if you go
ahead and try them, at least it won't be out
of ignorance just stupidity. What would I do if someone
offered me these drugs, I tell them to take a hike.

Speaker 8 (02:25):
Born on this day one hundred two years ago, he
died in two thousand and nine, but Ed McMahon comedian,
game show host, announcer and a big part of the
Johnny Carson Show. One of our favorite Ed mucmahon moments
was when he'd had a little extra that was at
a time Sinatra Dean Martin. I mean people tolerated a

(02:49):
little more of that back then.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
Now, as you know, the San Dieglos, who was one
of the finest ooos in the world. And we have
had this young lady on the show very often the past.
I guess seven or eight years.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
She's been appearing with us.

Speaker 10 (02:59):
Nine years, but nine.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
Of us, right, yeah, several plus several will be about nine.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
If you said seven or eight.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
I said, oh, I didn't say seven or eight.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
I said several. Then you said seven or eight, and
I said.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
That's nine nine nine.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Good, thank you.

Speaker 10 (03:15):
Some of the animals, some of the animals you had
as babies are now ten years old.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
That would be about right.

Speaker 10 (03:28):
Remember the animals that did something funny on your tie. Yes,
those little lions and the little baby lions were.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
One year old. That's right.

Speaker 10 (03:37):
They are now treacherous and ferocious ten year old animals.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Okay, Anyway, John Embry is here, ton't.

Speaker 10 (03:44):
I she's now thirty two.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
That Joan is an animal, a handler and a trainer,
and he really think you're fooling anybody.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
And she also did best to help you. I know that.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
And she does her three horse shows a day. Did
you know that at the animal park?

Speaker 10 (04:07):
Boy? What what an exciting idea?

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Would you like? An army cut or something?

Speaker 5 (04:16):
Maybe just to kind of catch up on little little
nappy poo just might snatty right out of it.

Speaker 10 (04:21):
Okay, club Johan, I'm the only one that went down
to see Joe.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Dog has never seen her. You've never seen her. I
went to the wild animals. Okay, but you're upsetting me.
I don't upset you. I went down, Joan, and I
know you did. That's already time. Don't say what I
don't I know her. I went down and I know
you did.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
Down there, and I couldn't go with you that week
you held a baby gorilla. Good, all right, and let's
get around here quickly.

Speaker 8 (04:55):
Mary and Barry was born on this day in nineteen
thirty six. He was the mayor of Washington, d c.
Who when he was caught in a hotel room with
a prostitute button naked, smoking crack and they kicked the
door down. His immediate reaction, without thinking for a secondent
was bitch. Set me up only Marion Barry. I think

(05:19):
Chris Rock maybe said it.

Speaker 7 (05:20):
Best, very bad and the Maya fam he get a ticket.
It was a damn potvin. How'd he get it?

Speaker 8 (05:33):
Man?

Speaker 7 (05:33):
Very bad?

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Million medmo.

Speaker 7 (05:35):
You know what that means that.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Even then I'll find us out. We had a crackheadles dead.
What do you want? You know him right? May beget
his job back. Smoke Krak got jomp back. The hell

(06:00):
that happened?

Speaker 11 (06:02):
I mean, if you get caught from the crack of McDonald's.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
You can't get your job back.

Speaker 8 (06:08):
That's right.

Speaker 11 (06:08):
They're not gonna trust you around to happy meals. Send
your as the hearties. Smoke crack got his job.

Speaker 12 (06:17):
All I want to.

Speaker 11 (06:18):
Who was so bad who ran against him that they lost?

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Who was so bad they lost to a crackhead? Who
are they campaign like?

Speaker 5 (06:29):
Who they are handling?

Speaker 8 (06:36):
Vote for me?

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Vote for me, don't vote for crack boat for smith.

Speaker 7 (06:50):
Man is man?

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Now?

Speaker 11 (06:51):
Don come on, man, I not gonna tell little kids
to not get high when the man's on crack. Don't
get high.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
It won't be nothing. I could be mad.

Speaker 8 (07:02):
On this day in eighteen thirty six, after a thirteen
day siege by an army of three thousand Mexican troops,
the one hundred and eighty seven Texas volunteers, including the
Great Davy Crocket Colonel Jim Bowie, the brave patriots defending

(07:23):
the Alamo, were killed and the fort was captured.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Republic I like the celling of the word means people
can live, free, talk, free go or come buy or sell,
be drunk or sober, however they choose.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Somewhere is give you a feeling.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Republic is one of those words that makes me tighten
the throat, same tightness and then gets when he's maybe
takes his first step or his first baby shaves, makes
his first sound like a man. Some words can give
you a feeling that make your heart warm. Prepublic is

(08:10):
one of those works.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Man Michael Berry in the system like a two modern Da.

Speaker 13 (08:28):
Graham Indie.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
If you are what's an estate where you be leaving.

Speaker 12 (08:31):
From Orange, Texas?

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Orange?

Speaker 7 (08:34):
Uh huh?

Speaker 12 (08:34):
And I need to go over at ferd and louisaima
Verden f e r our, I b a wire and
it's being my nineteen children's and we need to leave
Monday morning. You were leaving from Odessa, No Orange, You
are a h o r A n G E. Texas

(08:57):
and my sister and husband is staying third and uh,
she wanted us to come over there. She been wanting
us to come over. We just hadn't went cause of
her attitudes. Frankly, that's the problem is she just she
won't ask wrong. I don't know why she just get
like that.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
But now she wanna make up.

Speaker 12 (09:14):
So she'll say, well, y'all come on, and with all
these children's, I wanna make sure of the price before
I book it.

Speaker 11 (09:21):
Okay, you don't book tickets.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
You go to the terminal at least one hour prior
to buy your tickets.

Speaker 13 (09:27):
How old are the children?

Speaker 14 (09:28):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (09:29):
Lord, litstee. The youngest wheat is five, oldest one about.

Speaker 11 (09:34):
Seventeen, okay, rising as an adult.

Speaker 12 (09:37):
The seventeen dude, uh huh?

Speaker 2 (09:39):
And how about sixteen?

Speaker 14 (09:40):
Okay?

Speaker 13 (09:41):
Ages two to eleven?

Speaker 11 (09:42):
Ride as children?

Speaker 12 (09:43):
I think they're all under eleven.

Speaker 8 (09:46):
Okay, ages two to eleven.

Speaker 12 (09:47):
Give me the pints on neck okay, and I might
bring my good friend while twoster drinkings from Marster point.
So check for two addults. So if you have a calculina,
what would the total be for nineteen children? Me and
hy tustain from urage to ferry to lose that in bank.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Okay, Well, I don't have a calculator with me.

Speaker 12 (10:06):
Just approximated for me.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Okay, y'all going round trip?

Speaker 12 (10:12):
Uh huh? Yeah, I guess I unless some of my
wanta stay with her, I don't care. If they wanna
stay in her house, that's fine. But I'm only buying
for round trip.

Speaker 7 (10:21):
Okay, for two of those round trip will be two
hundred and four dollars.

Speaker 11 (10:25):
Oh lord, Okay, that's with the adult two adults, uh.

Speaker 8 (10:28):
Huh okay, with nineteen children around trip fifty one dollars
time nineteen.

Speaker 15 (10:36):
Here's what and that's how much it's gonna be.

Speaker 12 (10:39):
How much is that?

Speaker 3 (10:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
I'm not very good for math.

Speaker 12 (10:43):
I don't have my glasses on.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
How much would that be?

Speaker 12 (10:47):
For approximately nine hundred and sixty nine? Oh yeah? Lord, well.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
I'm gonna have to call her.

Speaker 12 (10:59):
Actually, wish you split it with mar again? Okay, And
I don't need to make a that's first class of coach.
It's no first class of coach in grayhound.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
It's first conference or oh okay, okay, thank you dog,
have a good week year.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Tell you mommy in my ex clusing door.

Speaker 14 (11:16):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (11:19):
Steve Siegles is a finish that means from Fillanormon country
rock band that performs bluegrass versions of well known hard
rock and metal songs. The band became known in the
summer of fourteen. You might have seen them that year
or later because they went rather viral after publishing their

(11:43):
videos on YouTube. Especially popular was the band's version of
Thunderstruck by ac DC, which has over This is a
staggering number one hundred and eighty million view use onto YouTube.

(12:04):
It's it's insane. This is a group from Finland making
bluegrass versions which is not from Finland, as you know,
of well known rock and metal songs. This really is
an interesting time we live in. It's a very interesting time. Indeed,

(12:26):
here is that version of Thunderstroke. We're not gonna use
it as a bump because I wanted you to have
to hear it for yourself. You can look it up
and I understand, I'm gonna I'm gonna get criticism and
I got that.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Oh like music.

Speaker 8 (12:39):
I just want you to call democrats idiots all day.
Just do that, Just do ad Why do you do
anything else but for people who are a little more
well rounded and enjoy odd and quirky things. This is
an odd and quirky thing. So here it is Steve
Space the letter in as an ann seagulls and their

(13:03):
version of thunderstruck by.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
I don't have a monkey, pop, can't bend over them,
wear my socks. I think Michael Berry Ross.

Speaker 15 (13:19):
Michael show.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
That this next story is not going to shock any fireman.

Speaker 8 (13:27):
To shock the rest of you, it's not going to
shock a fireman because firemen are crazy. I mean cray z.
I have a nephew who's a fireman. His name is
also Michael Berry, and uh he's an umble fireman. That
means he doesn't brag. Is your nephew of braggetosius fireman? No, No,

(13:51):
he's an umble fireman. For those of you outside of Houston,
Umble is a is a bedroom commun the northeast of Houston.
Property proper, proper, Houston, proper.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
But I love the kid.

Speaker 8 (14:07):
He's my brother, Steve's son. He and his sister Megan,
and now he's got two adorable little kids. And I
just saw him recently. It was my dad's eighty sixth
birthday party, just the just the family, and he he's
lost forty pounds. He's working out like a maniac. He

(14:32):
looks more fit than he looked in high school. And
he was a very good high school football player. Now
he's still got that goofy mustache that a lot of
these firefighters like to wear, the big handlebar, the goose gossig.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
But that's that's just the thing they do, you know.
I don't know what it is. But I love the kid.

Speaker 8 (14:48):
And he's fatherhood has been good for him. He has
he's he's slowed down, he's he's very he's much more methodical,
much less you know how energy.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
This is a kid who came to stay with us
one time.

Speaker 8 (15:05):
We had a place outside of Houston in Carmen, and
I had a motorcycle that I had acquired with the property,
a dirt bike.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
I should not be on a dirt bike. That's a
bad idea.

Speaker 8 (15:17):
But he was at the time, maybe thirteen or so,
and he was a wild kid in terms of he
wasn't afraid of anything. And he takes this dirt bike
and he's but I let him have it because he's
come to stay with his uncle.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
He should have fun.

Speaker 8 (15:31):
And my wife walks outside and he pulls up and says, hey,
you ought to ride it, and I'm not there, I'm inside,
and she says, you think so he says yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
She says, I've ridden a scooter, but I've never ridden. Ah,
you got this. So she gets on it.

Speaker 8 (15:50):
She pops the clutch. It jumps and she hits the accelerator.
As she pops the clutch, it jumps on her. She
lays it down, breaks the clutch off of there. Yeah,
not our finest moment. But that's my nephew, right.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
He's a wild and crazy gay, but I love him.
And I know a lot of firefighters and they're wild
and crazy gas, but I don't think they would do this.

Speaker 8 (16:16):
I think this is too far. A Baltimore paramedic. Every paramedic,
most paramedics are firefighters. They're actually just firefighters. Baltimore paramedic
arrested for filming himself masturbating and urinating into his colleague's
food at the firehouse. This is crazy, gat you kind

(16:37):
of like Marines, you know, it's kind of they're wild
and crazy, that's what they.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Do, and then posting it on social media.

Speaker 8 (16:46):
Court documents say he quote urinated on ice, wiped himself
on a scoop and used the scoop to mix the
urine throughout the ice in the ice maker, before making
a thumbs up gesture to the camera. Michael, I wish
I had said that that was gross. I'm not the
one who did it, Okay, I'm just giving you the news.

(17:09):
The story from Fox forty.

Speaker 14 (17:10):
Five a Baltimore County paramedic, Christopher M. Carroll, facing what
Sommer calling disturbing shocking charges. The thirty six year old
man accused of making videos of himself masturbating and urinating
on his colleague's property and food, posting it on social

(17:32):
media loud ax. Prosecutors say that happened at his workplace,
including at Baltimore County fire Station Number two in Pikesville.
Fox forty five News obtaining the criminal investigation papers that
detail how Carol allegedly committed the acts revealed after a

(17:52):
roughly two month long investigation. One particular incident of note
at fire Station number two in November, where prosecutors say Carol,
wearing his uniform and exposing his gentitals, walked toward a
large ice maker. The post captioned, they always say don't

(18:13):
drink the yellow snow.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Defense attorney Jeremy Eldridge.

Speaker 6 (18:17):
I think a lot of people are looking for reasons
why people would engage in this criminal behavior.

Speaker 14 (18:22):
Is not associated with this case, but weighs in on
the charges, which are misdemeanors.

Speaker 6 (18:28):
These charges are misdemeanors, but they're incredibly serious when you
consider the number of victims, the fact that victims supposedly
were fed bodily fluids including urine and seamen, and the
fact that this was done in a place where firefighters
have to trust one another and reside and live together,
and there's this broken trust that is going to be
the undercurrent of this prosecution.

Speaker 14 (18:49):
According to investigators, a Baltimore County Fire Department supervisor was
made aware of Carol's ex account with the profile name
of tadet Staddy, where police say Carol posted images and videos,
some of them they say, filmed within the Baltimore County
Fire Department facilities and the Baltimore County Public Safety Building.

(19:13):
Investigators say this quote large unique tattoo covering his chest
help them identify Carol.

Speaker 6 (19:21):
The best thing about the prosecution thus far is that
it wasn't rushed into It seems as though the Baltimore
County authorities took their time. It wasn't just a matter
of identifying the individual, but also trying to get other
key pieces of evidence so that it wasn't a purely
circumstantial case.

Speaker 8 (19:39):
So the appropriate response is that's disgusting, that's filthy. They
should go to prison. This is horrible, and that's what
most women are gonna think. But most guys, kind of
guys I would hang out with, would go that's too far.
Let me tell you what I did one time. But

(20:00):
you wonder about people. Right reminds me of the women
who mysteriously contracted herpes. Remember at the school. It turned
out the janitor at the school was peeing in their
water bottles and he had herpies. Remember the story story
from KPRCTV back in twenty twenty three.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
The fact that I can no longer lead my water
bottles anywhere or my cups at a party, just like that,
because I don't want anyone to catch what I have.

Speaker 16 (20:26):
Attorney Kim Spurlock is reading part of a statement from
one of the thirteen victims suing the company that hired
fifty one year old former janitor Lucy O Diaz. Three
other companies, including the management of this medical office building
in East Houston are also listed in the one million
dollar lawsuit.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Spurlock and her co council.

Speaker 16 (20:48):
Initially filed a lawsuit last October where four women said
the water in their office space had a foul odor
and a yellow color. Some say these up drinking from
this yeared water jug and brought their own water bottles,
but noticed the same odor. One of the women decided
to set up a camera at her desk.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
It caught mister Diaz coming into her office to clean
her desk, picking up her water bottle, taking his penis
and rubbing it all over the water bottle.

Speaker 16 (21:18):
Spurlock says the victim sent the video to the building manager,
but no action was taken for more than six days.
During that time, Diaz was still allowed into the building
and was allegedly caught on camera repeating the act. Now,
thirteen women who work in the building say they contracted
two incurable diseases as a result, herpes and hepatitis.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
A good if Michael Mary said it it's from the Jews.

Speaker 8 (21:45):
Well, it's a treat to be joined by a book
author who happens to be a friend of mine.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
You probably don't know him as a book author.

Speaker 8 (21:53):
You probably know him as one half of Clay and
Buck from in Houston, Were from Where from whence? I
broadcast into two East Coast noon to three and of
course West Coast nine a to noon. He had the
unenviable position of coming after Rush Limbaugh after his untimely passing.

(22:15):
But I think they've done a very good job. They
don't try to be Rush Limbaugh. They're Clay and Buck.
And it's taken a few years, but I think people
are really kind of getting the way their show works.
It's different, but it's good.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
I enjoy it.

Speaker 8 (22:28):
I only usually get to hear the third hour, if
at all, because I'm in studio, but sometimes I'll run
and drive somewhere. I got to be on the show
with them earlier this week, which was a treat. But
I've gotten to know these two guys off air, and
I have to tell you their first class dudes. They're
good human beings and they've become friends, and along with

(22:49):
Jesse Kelly, the four of us have conversations and they're
relatable and accessible, but they're whip smart and their show
does extraordinarily well across the country in ratings and in influence,
so with without further adieu. Buck Sexton is our guest.
Here's a new book out called Manufacturing Delusion. How the

(23:12):
Left uses brainwashing, indoctrination and propaganda against you. Not really
light stuff, but I have to tell you I was
very interested reading it. I have to say, Buck, I'm
not sure what this says about my opinion of you.
It's a very interesting read. I don't think I expected

(23:34):
it to be so interesting. I watched a movie. I
don't know if you ever watched this movie. It has
Gene Hackman in it, and it's about the Stazi in
East Germany and they're eavesdropping on this guy.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
And it's very dark, but it's really good.

Speaker 15 (23:49):
You're talking about the lives of others.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
The lives of others.

Speaker 15 (23:52):
Yes, of course you would know that Lots of Others
is a fantastic movie. Dus Lebani, that's the original German.

Speaker 8 (23:58):
I expected it to be kind of like that, real
slow moving and dark. But this is a really really
good read. What I'd like to do is actually just
dive in and kind of go through some of the book.
I encourage you to buy it. It's called Manufacturing Delusion
by Buck Sexton, and he uses his CIA background as

(24:20):
an analyst with NYPD Intelligence Division and as a CIA officer,
to really go in and and go through a lot
of what's happening to us. He uses references to COVID
a lot. He uses references to Stalinist Russia. He uses
references to a guy named Merlu who you can learn
about in a moment, and and something called killing the mind.

(24:42):
We'll get all we'll get into all of that, but
I want to fast forward page two oh six. There
was something I found very interesting.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
I'll just read it.

Speaker 8 (24:50):
The framework of intersectionality, developed by critical race theorist Kimberley Crenshaw,
views overlapping social identities such as whiteness and maleness as
force multipliers in situations of privilege and oppression. If you
are white, able bodied, heterosexual, cis gender, male, Christian, middle

(25:11):
or owning class, middle aged, or English speaking, you are privileged,
and it goes through all that. But here's the part
I wanted to get to it and ask you to
comment about. Conversely, if you are a black, handicapped, queer,
female Muslim, the intersection of these traits intensifies your oppression
in a white supremacist culture. Intersectionality in the opinion of

(25:35):
the white, gay, male Catholic writer Andrew Sullivan, quote is operating,
in Orwell's words, as a smelly little orthodoxy, and it
manifests itself. It seems to me almost as a religion.
This is the explanation of almost everything in American politics today,

(25:57):
gelled down into this one little paragraph.

Speaker 15 (26:00):
Yeah, Buck Sexton, thank you sir, and thank you for
the kind introduction. And I would just say, before we
dive into some of the meat of this conversation which
you just you just teed up for us, I'm very gratified.
The book in its opening week hit number four in
the New York Times bestseller list. So for a first
time author, I think that's a pretty solid.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Solid, surprising and people will read it. They're going to
love it.

Speaker 15 (26:25):
Thank you Well. This is the main thing I've gotten
from people, is because look, you understand this right, and
people expect you and me and those of our ilk
to be entertaining and engaging radio hosts. But a lot
of books put out by people in the conservative commentary world,
they're just a commentary world in general, are first of
all written by other people, meaning they didn't write the book.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
I wrote this book.

Speaker 15 (26:47):
I wrote every word of this book, and they tend
to follow a pretty straightforward you know, Here's how we
Win Back America like some version of Here's how we
Win Back in America. This book was something that I
came up with because I thought it was really important
and it was really bothering me. Right, it was something
that I was really struggling with, and it was how

(27:08):
do people go crazy who otherwise seem normal? And not
just in crazy countries or societies, although there's certainly a
lot of that.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
It happens here.

Speaker 15 (27:17):
Maybe it happens temporarily, maybe it happens to a few
million instead of all three hundred and fifty million of us.
But there's a process, and there are people, there are institutions,
apparatuses that abuse those processes.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
I also call them tactics, right.

Speaker 15 (27:34):
Things to do to coerce people's minds, to control people's
thought processes to the point where you can get them
to believe crazy things and act in crazy ways. That's
the underlying thesis.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Now, a lot of this comes out of COVID.

Speaker 15 (27:54):
It's not a COVID book at all. You know, there's
some references to COVID, but it's about far more than that.
But in the after math of COVID, it was a
hold on a second. You know, I had this moment
where I said, hold on a minute. We just went
through a mass hysteria, a mass psychological breakdown in this country.
That sure, we made it through, and yes, people want

(28:16):
to just forget about it. But had things been worse, Michael,
had that virus actually had a one or a five
or god forbida, you know, ten to fifteen percent fatality ratio,
we would be facing like an end of civilization kind
of event in this society because people went so completely
nuts and made such bad decisions, and the authorities were

(28:39):
such liars and so untrustworthy. So what I wanted to
do is go back to, Okay, when what are the
origins of mass mind control in the modern world. Now,
by the way, it relies on modernity in some way,
because you and I are sitting here as radio guys,
it is because of mass media that you could have
massmind control in the way that we've seen it. Right. Sure,

(29:02):
there are books, sure there there you know, there could
be faith doctrines spread to people over the course of centuries,
et cetera. But I'm talking about a concerted, immediate effort
to get large numbers of people to change their thinking
in service.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Of a political orthodox your ideology. That's only possible really in.

Speaker 15 (29:26):
An era of radio, TV and now the Internet.

Speaker 13 (29:29):
It's as well, it's shocking because it's Orrellian in the sense,
in a sense and on a scale that Orwell could
have never imagined.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
And that's what's amazing.

Speaker 8 (29:42):
We're talking about sex in the book is manufacturing delusion.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Will continue that conversation coming up.
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