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Speaker 1 (00:03):
What it's that time, time, time, time, Luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
From Michael Verie Show is on the air.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Attack helicopters and aircraft kept Iranian forces from getting anywhere
near where the crewman was hiding. Armed Iranians had been
scouring the mountainous terrain to find him first, with the
promise of.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
A huge cash reward, but a Trump.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Administration official tel CBS News the CIA was deeply involved
not only in the hunt, but in employ to spread
false information inside Iran that US forces had already found
him and we're transporting him by ground out of the country.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
This is a rescue that's very historical. It'll go down
to the books. Late Thursday night, at American fifteen fighter
jet went down deep inside enemy territory in Iran while
participating in Operation Epic Fury, where we're doing unbelievably well
well at a level that nobody's ever seen before. The
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entire country could be taken out in one night, and
that night might be tomorrow night. Both members of the
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crew ejected from the aircraft and landed alive. When Iranian
Soil I immediately was asked to make a decision, I
ordered the US Armed Forces to do whatever was necessary
to bring our brave warriors back home. A risky decision
because we could have ended up with one hundred dead
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as opposed to one or two. So a hard decision
to mank But in the United States military, we leave
no American behind.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
We don't do it.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Rai Rati.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Rai RAI.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Deploy twenty one military aircraft into hostile airspace, many flying
at very low altitude, being shot by bullets.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
You bring rifles into play when.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
You're going that low, but there are also certain advantages
and broad daylight.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Over ran four seven hours.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
At times facing very very heavy enemy fire. We have
a helicopter. There's got a lot of bullets in it.
It's amazing. We just realized how good those weapons are,
those our machines are.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Nobody has.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Nobody has the equipment that we have, and nobody has
the military that we have, not even close the most
powerful military anywhere in the world by far. The flight
crews and warfighters aboard those aircraft took extraordinary risks to
rescue their fellow service members. This first wave of search
and rescue forces successfully located the pilot of the F fifteen,
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and he was extracted from enemy territory by an HH
sixty Jolly Green two helicopter, fabulous machine as a warrior's
face gunfire at very close range.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Well, it's going to be a very interesting day because
the President has made some rather bold threats, and my
suspicion is that the Iranians are not going to capitulate.
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That is not to suggest that they are brave or bold,
or strong or anything else. That is to say that
they are not rational. If they were rational, we wouldn't
be in the situation in the first place. I think
that when you are dealing with the people whose version
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of a religion is a celebration of death, then you
understand that sometimes that creates in them a view of
the world that is quite unlike our own, which is
a celebration of life. I well, I will leave it
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there other than to say that in the midst of
all of this, and if you believe that President Trump's
actions are the right actions, then I suppose the consequences
don't matter. I will say that I fear we will
awaken in November and regret the escalation of this effort,
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regardless whether we whether what he's doing is the right
thing or not. I don't think the American people are supportive,
and if you say, well, I am Michael, you may be.
I do not believe the American people are supportive. The
polls show that. I think when you can't get the
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rest of the world to assist in an effort that
largely benefits them, the opening of the strait of hormones,
it makes one question exactly why we are the tip
of the spear. I hate the nation of Iran as
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much as the next guy. I'm just if I'm honest,
I am very concerned as to whether this effort will
be successful by the measures that we would hope to impose.
I'm hopeful, but understand my language when I say that.
When Matt Brice opened the new Federal American Grill, I said,
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I was worried. You don't think we're going to make it,
then you're going to kill it. But I worry. You're
my friend, it's your sixth location. It's going to stretch
your dinner. You're going to have to work harder, build
new team, build a new audience, you build a new
loyal fan base. When my friend Chris Conrad opened the
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Republic Boot Company Winecastle, I said, I'm worried, and he said,
you don't think we're going to make it. I'm certain
you're going to make it. You've run the largest exceon
facility in Kazakhstan. This is small potatoes for you. But
I worry. I naturally, it's what keeps me from opening
a second RCC until it's perfect. I think it's healthy
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to have some degree of skepticism and worry, not for
the sake of worry itself, but for the sake of
not being so overly optimistic that you get over your skis,
which can happen to a lot of people. I will
just say that I am concerned. I am not simply
of the opinion that were the United States of America,
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we just blow the Iranis out of the sky and
blow them to smithereens and all as well. I don't
think it's quite that simple to the keeper the stone
and disalt.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
Hey you, I miss Shirley clicko. I'm gonna tell you
the damn truth. I'm about as well as the lady
could get behind and go on to churches.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Today. Church wole me out.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
First of all, they had me own what they called
security lady doing it, And I hate that this once
once a month or stre you get handed the keys,
and you have to be the first lady down there.
I mean I had to be there at the crack
of noon, open the dog, going to.
Speaker 7 (08:59):
Switch the lights, check the temperature, see if it was
too humidity, light all the candles, put out, all the
programs and the himinos and everything, and the vacuum up
and there. I felt it like a slave at my
own church.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
So I definitely didn't even put a dollar in that
collection plate.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I made my own change, thank your shoe. And then
when the.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
Rest of them girls finally got up there.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
So I don't know.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
Easter do not mean about hat And I've read crowns.
I understand about beautiful hats. I have wanted to myself
that I had made myself out of al Pasia wood
and some blue owned diamonds. It's beautiful. Jesus would like it.
I know that I wear it for his GluR. But
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them other ladies is down there showing off, and they
do their head this way and that way and this
way and right up in your face because they want
a compliment. They want you to ask them where you
got your hat at. But I ain't going give him
the satisfaction, not if I'm gonna have to vacuum. I
got pride now, Hew, your mama is a hashstir I
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hate you.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Easter, do not mean about hats is one of the
ten most quoted Shirley Cue Liquor lines of all time.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
True story.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
So I got an email from a fellow this morning
and he took a photo of the traffic at looks
like it's eventually the intersection was Voss or Hillcroft. I
can't tell his overview if it's Sam Philippi or West
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Timer that this came from, but he said that thirty
minutes he was spent. He spent moving three blocks along
a normal road, either West Timer or Philippine. And the
reason was the light was out. And when the light,
when the traffic light is out, it's amazing what a
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difference it makes. You really see the difference between say,
Somalia and what used to be in the United States,
because it shouldn't be that hard for traffic to move
in an order in an orderly organized fashion, as opposed
to catches catch can nobody figures out well when the
opposite side's coming, I can come, and then we could
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go like that and then be more efficient if we
did two cars in a row, but no, no, we
can't do that. And then you think about the fact
that that is a basic function of city government. And
what is so interesting to me, having run for mayor,
having had conversations all over the city. None of the
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issues have changed, They've just worsened. You don't. I don't
lightly overcome eight years of Sylvester Turner. I saw that
the controller, who was a Turner cohort, came out with
his announcement that the city is on the verge of bankruptcy.
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Things are very bad. You need to know the finances
are very bad.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Well, where were you.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
When Sylvester Turner was mayor? You didn't dare say that
Sylvester Turner will turn out to be the most corrupt
mayor of this city has ever seen.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
And the only one who could.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Have out done that would have been Sheila Jackson Lee,
who was trying but she lost. You think about simple
functions like a traffic light, getting your water bill, right,
do you remember that we had people getting four to
six seven, eight thousand dollars water bills. The difference between
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the water bill and everything else is your water gets
cut off, it doesn't get paid. There was no rhyme
or reason why those water bills were being sent out.
There was no way to figure out what was wrong.
They didn't have the staff to audit it. Well, here's
your audit. Mamma's eighty five. She's had water service for
sixty years. Her water bill averages between sixty and sixty
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six dollars every month, and has for the last oh
forty years or so. And then she got a bill
for sixenty twelve dollars. Pretty sure, ma'am didn't open a
mobile swimming pool filling service, so we know the city's wrong.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Oh no, we didn't have the staffing to handle that.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
And all the while people were being told to use
less water because we had a water problem. You had
water lines busted, gushing, and one of them was on
fondering gushing into the street. And somebody must probably Amy
Davis over at Channel two went enterprising, intrepid reporter put
footage on every day, look at this, look at this,
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look at this, and truth be told, there wasn't a
single Selvester Turner voter who said, well, that's upsetting. I
expected Sylvester to run the city. Well, nobody believed that.
Not one person believed that. On day one. Sylvester Turner
accomplished everything he campaigned on. If you consider what he
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campaigned on and you think how busted up, how busted
up our lines are, our finances, the entirety of the
city of Houston, and then it all makes sense. Todd Edwards,
whose sister Ada was on city Council with me, will
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be pleading guilty today for misusing public funds meant to
build affordable housing in third Ward. This coming a week
after the Midtown Redevelopment Authority terminated Garnet Coleman, former State
rep and his Center for Civic and Public Policy Improvement
contract after paying more than ten million dollars since twenty
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sixteen to quote, draft and then implement its housing plan,
but says there's nothing to show for it.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
There is an.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Absolute crisis of corruption among not all, but some politicians
in this community who happened to be black, and nobody
wants to mention it.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
And it is widespread.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Sylvester Turner, the late Sheila Jackson, Lee Rodney ellis it is.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
I've watched it.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I've watched and the people that get hurt the worst
are blacks.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
That's the reality.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
On this dand nineteen seventy eight, the Police release Rock Sane.
Speaker 8 (16:07):
In England, BBC Radio One refused to play it, tanking
the song, which got no traction.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
For over a year. When they would tour the United.
Speaker 8 (16:24):
States, it would get radio airplay and it was.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
A favorite at their concert and it would become their
first hit, arguably putting the band on the map, and
they couldn't get it played on the radio in England.
I often wonder you look at Fernando Mendozo gah was
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laboring in obscurity in California. One year of eligibility left
smart guy but kind of a Tom Brady tester. On
on the the well, I guess the wherlick who would
have He would have done well, but on a physical
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test he was nothing overly impressive. Turned out to be
the Heisman Trophy winner. That's not my opinion necessarily the
greatest player in college football. It's one well in any case,
turned out to be one of the greatest players in
college football last year, and one team, and one team
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only wanted him for a D one position, and that
was Indiana, which was the losingest program in college football
history prior to that season. I just wonder sometimes how
many bands were just as good as if they'd had
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a number one, but they didn't get a number one.
So they break up under the pressure, or they break
up under the penury, or they break up under the
frustration of we're not actually any good. When they were good,
you just didn't hear their music. I wonder sometimes how
many guys turning wrenches, if given a shot, could have
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been a great CEO. I think that's probably true for
most everything, every aspect of life. I remember when I
remember the John Starks story. Hex Scottie Pippens story was
an improbable NBA journey. There are a lot of those,
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and Pippin's one of the greatest of all time. Fascinating
to me. Fascinating to think how many people may be
a bartender in Beaumont and could have been the greatest
crooner since Frank Sinatra. I don't know, you just never
They never got their shot. The Brakes didn't work out right.
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They were under a contract that that smothered them for
some period of time. Email I got during the break Michael,
I agree with everything you said, but now you're telling
me you want your kids to grow up in a
world with them barbarians still alive. You ought to be grateful.
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Trump's gonna wipe them off the face of the earth. Okay,
I'll play along. You believe that you believe we're going
to surgically strike Iran and eliminate the civilization. You to
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the truth. You honestly believe that you're gonna go to
bed tonight believing that tomorrow there will be no Iran.
There will be nobody alive in Iran any longer. There's
no way you believe that. This is why I struggle
with sci Fi. I cannot suspend disbelief. I cannot simply
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say because I'm rooting for someone, and I am rooting
for Donald Trump. He's our president, He's been the best
president of my life. I am rooting for him. Absolutely,
I'm rooting for him to return his focus to domestic affairs.
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But make no mistake, once our troops, once our service
members are deployed, I'm rooting for victory, no question about that,
and shouldn't be any question of any American. But prior
to that, is this in our best interest? I'll leave
that issue aside. There's no way anyone believes that we're
going to simply eliminate Iran. Do we have the capability,
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not with anything short of nuclear weaponry. In the moment
we deploy nuclear weaponry, the entire world changes and you
cannot put that genie back in a bottle. And I
think that is larger than anyone in our domestic audience.
Than the average person in our domestic audience quite understands.
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It is not so simple as ear just walk around
the saying we have to blow them the smotherings. It
is not that simple for anybody who thinks America simply
flexes our power. And I've got the hubris of every
other American and everything is simple. I don't know if
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you notice we were scratching and clawing and pulling the
needle out of a haystack to get two airmen out
of Iran. I don't know if you notice. It is
not without consequences that you do these things. Part of
the problem is that Iran is powerful. I am amazed
the country can continue to function and we keep taking
out their leaders. That alone, to me, is amazing. I
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don't have an answer for that. RC on the Black Line.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
You're up, sir, mister Barry, Yes, sir, just contemplating some
of the things that you're saying is ironic. I'm thinking
along the same line with Iran and the complexities of
it and the average American trying to figure this out.
But let me say this, I believe that mister Trump
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is ahead of himself on this and he's continuing the
don Row doctrine, and in his mind, he's looking at
the Western hemisphere have to be strong. Therefore, you have
to neutralize Iran as much as possible. And he believes
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that his predecessors years back should have done it, and
he's going to go ahead on and do it in
order to say God, the Western hemisphere via Venezuela, via Cuba,
via Mexico, because he sees that the world, and he's
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showing us that the world really don't care about us,
and it's not the hatred of him, it's really the
hatred of us. He recognized that. So I think the
don Road doctrine is gonna bring us back into an
isolationist type Western hemisphere type, we can't trust nobody type.
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We're gonna protect and strengthen our hemisphere because we already
see where Europe is going the other part of the West.
We already see what's going on in the bar Russia
and whatnot. And I think Trump is just ahead of
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all of this, and he sees bit and he's trying
to solidify the United States and the Western UH America's
power so we won't go down with this globalist plan.
I think the dunload doctrine, it's pretty much getting us
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back into an isolationist type of country where we have
to protect our.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Own Okay, hold understand, hold on, just we're talking about it.
It's the Michael Berry Show, Parcy on the Black Line.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
You there, I'm here, all right, Yes, I'm here.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Discussion.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I think this is this is this is what talk
radio is meant for. I think we don't get to
have conversations with people we don't personally know like this
very often. Let me go back to your comments and
and make sure I understand them thoroughly. Is it your
position that the United States is safer if we.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Attack a run.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
It's my position that the United States, after all of
these decades of being in a conflict with a Run,
that Trump has decided that he wanted to try to
end the conflict, to eliminate the threat and get that
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out the way, because our run has been a thign
no doubt.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Okay, I want to make sure I understand.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Let's set the table, all right, So when you say
eliminate the threat, what would be a win? Let's define
our mission, what would be what would we do that
would quote, eliminate the threat.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
I believe what he's doing right now, which is destroyed
in their military, of making them incapable of being as threatening.
It's not gonna happen overnight. I do believe that that's
the only recourse less than you know, going to a
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nuclear option, which, like you said before, would be you know,
catastrophic and you know, set a bad precedent for everybody else.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
But okay, he did say in their civilization, So you
don't think he meant that.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
You meant you think that, No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I just not understand if we're the problem with any
discussion of Trump is that you lose a certain number
of people because anything short of Trump is God. I
love Trump, Donald J. Trump worshiped Trump, and you lose them.
And I understand that that's not a healthy republic, that's
not doing Donald Trump any favors. But let's just assume
you're not part of part of the group that just
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says you can never question anything Trump, or you're helping
the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
So so now we've moved to we do recognize that
some of what he says is hyperbole. He does not
actually intend to wipe them off the face of the earth,
as he said.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Oh, I agree with that, okay.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
So now, so now we're understanding that we're looking beyond
the words and looking at the actions.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
And I agree with that as well.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
So, and I do think there is value to some
of what he does, which is hyperbolic language for the
sake of effect, and in many cases that does work.
In this case, I think we have to understand that
that's not realistic and that's not what he wishes either.
But when you say eliminate the threat, So if I
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were to ask you, in very simple terms, are see
what would be a successful mission in this case? And
you said it's going to take a little long. How
long will this take?
Speaker 5 (27:57):
I think that it's probably not going to be complete
through Trump's administration, and I think that it has to
go on to the next administration. And if what he
wants to do, he wants to change the foreign policy
position on Iran from the previous administrations, from the history
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where they've been a thorn on outside. We don't want
them to be a thorign in our side. We want
to keep the pressure on them. And nobody has done
this yet, and it's been threatening to be done, but
he's finally pulling the trigger. Now. If he leads a
JD and Marco gets in there, they can keep the
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pressure on Iran in this foreign policy position. He's trying
to change the foreign policy.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Let's start with he's changing the foreign policy position. I
think most Americans would support that. This you say that
his efforts going to extend beyond his administration, so something
more than another two and a half years.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
And let's presume that Republicans win, which.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
I think I think some of these answers would affect
whether Republicans do win in twenty eight. But let's just
assume Republicans win in twenty eight and as you say,
that's that's Marco and JD.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
But that's that's all very hypothetical. But let's just say
that's the.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Case for us to be in a sustained engagement for
that period of time. As you say, keeping the heat
on Iran at that point, I'm assuming we've extended beyond
air superiority and drones and bombings, and now we're at
the boots on the ground face right.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Well, that's a big one. Awesome.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
I don't want to drag you into something you don't
you don't consent to. That's a big one.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Well, think about what he's saying about taking the island,
thinking about some of his positions in regards to getting
to his agenda and an end game. So he wants
to make them powerless in every way possible, and this
is why he's talking about attacking their grids and they
oil and strangling them and things of this nature. But
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constant pressure and are we going to be able to
sustain it over the years. I mean, we've been giving
money to a war over that in Ukraine, and I don't.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Think we should have done that either. But I don't
think that's our excuse here. I believe that George W.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Bush's involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan is the reason Barack
Obama became president. I think a sustained ground war without
any clear mission and without public support destroyed the Republican
Party as we know it, and I'm not eager to
do that again. And I will remind you that Saddam
Hussein was very unpopular in the United States, and that's
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why they had to tie Osama bin Laden to Iraq
and Afghanistan and why we needed to be there. But
I will tell you, if you look at the American
public's view of Republican presidents after the Bush administration's administration,
there was this idea that they're going to drag us
into these long wars with no exit strategy, with no
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clear mission, with no clear victory, and we will ra
Rah for the troops till the cows come home, but
we will lose elections because of it. Now, if the
argument here is that we are knocking Iran down to size,
I understand that. But we went into Iraq, which was
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not nearly as powerful when we went in the second
time in three as Iran is today, and we stayed
there effectively twenty years. And I don't think anybody would
suggest we got a victory out of it, or that
we left Iraq any better than we found it. Not
only that, what do we leave in its wake in Iran?
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The big question, and this again, these are questions that
are not easy to answer. I wish I had an answer.
I have questions, which is what you do in a republic.
I wish I had an answer, But what does the
government look like?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
In Iran?
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Everyone screams regime change, regime change. Do you have a
leader to put in there? There's no shap Holovey waiting
in the wings like we had before as our puppet.
Syria is broken, Egypt is broken, Iraq is broken, Afghanistan
will always be broken. So I think this is a
lot more complicated than people quite recognize.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
And we can't just say.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Kick their ass, Donald Trump, we got the Don row
Mark doctrine. I think you're going to lose a lot
of American lives in an effort that the American public
doesn't quite understand, and simple cheerleading is not going to
answer the question.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
It may for you, and it may for the next guy.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
There's me a lot of voters that lose, that leave
our party as a result of this.
What it's that time, time, time, time, Luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
From Michael Verie Show is on the air.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Attack helicopters and aircraft kept Iranian forces from getting anywhere
near where the crewman was hiding. Armed Iranians had been
scouring the mountainous terrain to find him first, with the
promise of.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
A huge cash reward, but a Trump.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Administration official tel CBS News the CIA was deeply involved
not only in the hunt, but in employ to spread
false information inside Iran that US forces had already found
him and we're transporting him by ground out of the country.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
This is a rescue that's very historical. It'll go down
to the books. Late Thursday night, at American fifteen fighter
jet went down deep inside enemy territory in Iran while
participating in Operation Epic Fury, where we're doing unbelievably well
well at a level that nobody's ever seen before. The
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entire country could be taken out in one night, and
that night might be tomorrow night. Both members of the
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crew ejected from the aircraft and landed alive. When Iranian
Soil I immediately was asked to make a decision, I
ordered the US Armed Forces to do whatever was necessary
to bring our brave warriors back home. A risky decision
because we could have ended up with one hundred dead
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as opposed to one or two. So a hard decision
to mank But in the United States military, we leave
no American behind.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
We don't do it.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Rai Rati.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Rai RAI.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Deploy twenty one military aircraft into hostile airspace, many flying
at very low altitude, being shot by bullets.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
You bring rifles into play when.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
You're going that low, but there are also certain advantages
and broad daylight.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Over ran four seven hours.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
At times facing very very heavy enemy fire. We have
a helicopter. There's got a lot of bullets in it.
It's amazing. We just realized how good those weapons are,
those our machines are.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Nobody has.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Nobody has the equipment that we have, and nobody has
the military that we have, not even close the most
powerful military anywhere in the world by far. The flight
crews and warfighters aboard those aircraft took extraordinary risks to
rescue their fellow service members. This first wave of search
and rescue forces successfully located the pilot of the F fifteen,
(03:38):
and he was extracted from enemy territory by an HH
sixty Jolly Green two helicopter, fabulous machine as a warrior's
face gunfire at very close range.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Well, it's going to be a very interesting day because
the President has made some rather bold threats, and my
suspicion is that the Iranians are not going to capitulate.
(04:39):
That is not to suggest that they are brave or bold,
or strong or anything else. That is to say that
they are not rational. If they were rational, we wouldn't
be in the situation in the first place. I think
that when you are dealing with the people whose version
(05:02):
of a religion is a celebration of death, then you
understand that sometimes that creates in them a view of
the world that is quite unlike our own, which is
a celebration of life. I well, I will leave it
(05:29):
there other than to say that in the midst of
all of this, and if you believe that President Trump's
actions are the right actions, then I suppose the consequences
don't matter. I will say that I fear we will
awaken in November and regret the escalation of this effort,
(05:58):
regardless whether we whether what he's doing is the right
thing or not. I don't think the American people are supportive,
and if you say, well, I am Michael, you may be.
I do not believe the American people are supportive. The
polls show that. I think when you can't get the
(06:21):
rest of the world to assist in an effort that
largely benefits them, the opening of the strait of hormones,
it makes one question exactly why we are the tip
of the spear. I hate the nation of Iran as
(06:43):
much as the next guy. I'm just if I'm honest,
I am very concerned as to whether this effort will
be successful by the measures that we would hope to impose.
I'm hopeful, but understand my language when I say that.
When Matt Brice opened the new Federal American Grill, I said,
(07:06):
I was worried. You don't think we're going to make it,
then you're going to kill it. But I worry. You're
my friend, it's your sixth location. It's going to stretch
your dinner. You're going to have to work harder, build
new team, build a new audience, you build a new
loyal fan base. When my friend Chris Conrad opened the
(07:26):
Republic Boot Company Winecastle, I said, I'm worried, and he said,
you don't think we're going to make it. I'm certain
you're going to make it. You've run the largest exceon
facility in Kazakhstan. This is small potatoes for you. But
I worry. I naturally, it's what keeps me from opening
a second RCC until it's perfect. I think it's healthy
(07:50):
to have some degree of skepticism and worry, not for
the sake of worry itself, but for the sake of
not being so overly optimistic that you get over your skis,
which can happen to a lot of people. I will
just say that I am concerned. I am not simply
of the opinion that were the United States of America,
(08:11):
we just blow the Iranis out of the sky and
blow them to smithereens and all as well. I don't
think it's quite that simple to the keeper the stone
and disalt.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
Hey you, I miss Shirley clicko. I'm gonna tell you
the damn truth. I'm about as well as the lady
could get behind and go on to churches.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Today. Church wole me out.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
First of all, they had me own what they called
security lady doing it, And I hate that this once
once a month or stre you get handed the keys,
and you have to be the first lady down there.
I mean I had to be there at the crack
of noon, open the dog, going to.
Speaker 7 (08:59):
Switch the lights, check the temperature, see if it was
too humidity, light all the candles, put out, all the
programs and the himinos and everything, and the vacuum up
and there. I felt it like a slave at my
own church.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
So I definitely didn't even put a dollar in that
collection plate.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I made my own change, thank your shoe. And then
when the.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
Rest of them girls finally got up there.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
So I don't know.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
Easter do not mean about hat And I've read crowns.
I understand about beautiful hats. I have wanted to myself
that I had made myself out of al Pasia wood
and some blue owned diamonds. It's beautiful. Jesus would like it.
I know that I wear it for his GluR. But
(09:47):
them other ladies is down there showing off, and they
do their head this way and that way and this
way and right up in your face because they want
a compliment. They want you to ask them where you
got your hat at. But I ain't going give him
the satisfaction, not if I'm gonna have to vacuum. I
got pride now, Hew, your mama is a hashstir I
(10:08):
hate you.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Easter, do not mean about hats is one of the
ten most quoted Shirley Cue Liquor lines of all time.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
True story.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
So I got an email from a fellow this morning
and he took a photo of the traffic at looks
like it's eventually the intersection was Voss or Hillcroft. I
can't tell his overview if it's Sam Philippi or West
(10:46):
Timer that this came from, but he said that thirty
minutes he was spent. He spent moving three blocks along
a normal road, either West Timer or Philippine. And the
reason was the light was out. And when the light,
when the traffic light is out, it's amazing what a
(11:09):
difference it makes. You really see the difference between say,
Somalia and what used to be in the United States,
because it shouldn't be that hard for traffic to move
in an order in an orderly organized fashion, as opposed
to catches catch can nobody figures out well when the
opposite side's coming, I can come, and then we could
(11:32):
go like that and then be more efficient if we
did two cars in a row, but no, no, we
can't do that. And then you think about the fact
that that is a basic function of city government. And
what is so interesting to me, having run for mayor,
having had conversations all over the city. None of the
(11:54):
issues have changed, They've just worsened. You don't. I don't
lightly overcome eight years of Sylvester Turner. I saw that
the controller, who was a Turner cohort, came out with
his announcement that the city is on the verge of bankruptcy.
(12:16):
Things are very bad. You need to know the finances
are very bad.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Well, where were you.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
When Sylvester Turner was mayor? You didn't dare say that
Sylvester Turner will turn out to be the most corrupt
mayor of this city has ever seen.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
And the only one who could.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Have out done that would have been Sheila Jackson Lee,
who was trying but she lost. You think about simple
functions like a traffic light, getting your water bill, right,
do you remember that we had people getting four to
six seven, eight thousand dollars water bills. The difference between
(12:54):
the water bill and everything else is your water gets
cut off, it doesn't get paid. There was no rhyme
or reason why those water bills were being sent out.
There was no way to figure out what was wrong.
They didn't have the staff to audit it. Well, here's
your audit. Mamma's eighty five. She's had water service for
sixty years. Her water bill averages between sixty and sixty
(13:17):
six dollars every month, and has for the last oh
forty years or so. And then she got a bill
for sixenty twelve dollars. Pretty sure, ma'am didn't open a
mobile swimming pool filling service, so we know the city's wrong.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Oh no, we didn't have the staffing to handle that.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
And all the while people were being told to use
less water because we had a water problem. You had
water lines busted, gushing, and one of them was on
fondering gushing into the street. And somebody must probably Amy
Davis over at Channel two went enterprising, intrepid reporter put
footage on every day, look at this, look at this,
(14:02):
look at this, and truth be told, there wasn't a
single Selvester Turner voter who said, well, that's upsetting. I
expected Sylvester to run the city. Well, nobody believed that.
Not one person believed that. On day one. Sylvester Turner
accomplished everything he campaigned on. If you consider what he
(14:30):
campaigned on and you think how busted up, how busted
up our lines are, our finances, the entirety of the
city of Houston, and then it all makes sense. Todd Edwards,
whose sister Ada was on city Council with me, will
(14:51):
be pleading guilty today for misusing public funds meant to
build affordable housing in third Ward. This coming a week
after the Midtown Redevelopment Authority terminated Garnet Coleman, former State
rep and his Center for Civic and Public Policy Improvement
contract after paying more than ten million dollars since twenty
(15:13):
sixteen to quote, draft and then implement its housing plan,
but says there's nothing to show for it.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
There is an.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Absolute crisis of corruption among not all, but some politicians
in this community who happened to be black, and nobody
wants to mention it.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
And it is widespread.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Sylvester Turner, the late Sheila Jackson, Lee Rodney ellis it is.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
I've watched it.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I've watched and the people that get hurt the worst
are blacks.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
That's the reality.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
On this dand nineteen seventy eight, the Police release Rock Sane.
Speaker 8 (16:07):
In England, BBC Radio One refused to play it, tanking
the song, which got no traction.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
For over a year. When they would tour the United.
Speaker 8 (16:24):
States, it would get radio airplay and it was.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
A favorite at their concert and it would become their
first hit, arguably putting the band on the map, and
they couldn't get it played on the radio in England.
I often wonder you look at Fernando Mendozo gah was
(16:52):
laboring in obscurity in California. One year of eligibility left
smart guy but kind of a Tom Brady tester. On
on the the well, I guess the wherlick who would
have He would have done well, but on a physical
(17:13):
test he was nothing overly impressive. Turned out to be
the Heisman Trophy winner. That's not my opinion necessarily the
greatest player in college football. It's one well in any case,
turned out to be one of the greatest players in
college football last year, and one team, and one team
(17:35):
only wanted him for a D one position, and that
was Indiana, which was the losingest program in college football
history prior to that season. I just wonder sometimes how
many bands were just as good as if they'd had
(17:57):
a number one, but they didn't get a number one.
So they break up under the pressure, or they break
up under the penury, or they break up under the
frustration of we're not actually any good. When they were good,
you just didn't hear their music. I wonder sometimes how
many guys turning wrenches, if given a shot, could have
(18:19):
been a great CEO. I think that's probably true for
most everything, every aspect of life. I remember when I
remember the John Starks story. Hex Scottie Pippens story was
an improbable NBA journey. There are a lot of those,
(18:44):
and Pippin's one of the greatest of all time. Fascinating
to me. Fascinating to think how many people may be
a bartender in Beaumont and could have been the greatest
crooner since Frank Sinatra. I don't know, you just never
They never got their shot. The Brakes didn't work out right.
(19:05):
They were under a contract that that smothered them for
some period of time. Email I got during the break Michael,
I agree with everything you said, but now you're telling
me you want your kids to grow up in a
world with them barbarians still alive. You ought to be grateful.
(19:25):
Trump's gonna wipe them off the face of the earth. Okay,
I'll play along. You believe that you believe we're going
to surgically strike Iran and eliminate the civilization. You to
(19:46):
the truth. You honestly believe that you're gonna go to
bed tonight believing that tomorrow there will be no Iran.
There will be nobody alive in Iran any longer. There's
no way you believe that. This is why I struggle
with sci Fi. I cannot suspend disbelief. I cannot simply
(20:09):
say because I'm rooting for someone, and I am rooting
for Donald Trump. He's our president, He's been the best
president of my life. I am rooting for him. Absolutely,
I'm rooting for him to return his focus to domestic affairs.
(20:30):
But make no mistake, once our troops, once our service
members are deployed, I'm rooting for victory, no question about that,
and shouldn't be any question of any American. But prior
to that, is this in our best interest? I'll leave
that issue aside. There's no way anyone believes that we're
going to simply eliminate Iran. Do we have the capability,
(20:56):
not with anything short of nuclear weaponry. In the moment
we deploy nuclear weaponry, the entire world changes and you
cannot put that genie back in a bottle. And I
think that is larger than anyone in our domestic audience.
Than the average person in our domestic audience quite understands.
(21:18):
It is not so simple as ear just walk around
the saying we have to blow them the smotherings. It
is not that simple for anybody who thinks America simply
flexes our power. And I've got the hubris of every
other American and everything is simple. I don't know if
(21:39):
you notice we were scratching and clawing and pulling the
needle out of a haystack to get two airmen out
of Iran. I don't know if you notice. It is
not without consequences that you do these things. Part of
the problem is that Iran is powerful. I am amazed
the country can continue to function and we keep taking
out their leaders. That alone, to me, is amazing. I
(22:03):
don't have an answer for that. RC on the Black Line.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
You're up, sir, mister Barry, Yes, sir, just contemplating some
of the things that you're saying is ironic. I'm thinking
along the same line with Iran and the complexities of
it and the average American trying to figure this out.
But let me say this, I believe that mister Trump
(22:30):
is ahead of himself on this and he's continuing the
don Row doctrine, and in his mind, he's looking at
the Western hemisphere have to be strong. Therefore, you have
to neutralize Iran as much as possible. And he believes
(22:55):
that his predecessors years back should have done it, and
he's going to go ahead on and do it in
order to say God, the Western hemisphere via Venezuela, via Cuba,
via Mexico, because he sees that the world, and he's
(23:15):
showing us that the world really don't care about us,
and it's not the hatred of him, it's really the
hatred of us. He recognized that. So I think the
don Road doctrine is gonna bring us back into an
isolationist type Western hemisphere type, we can't trust nobody type.
(23:37):
We're gonna protect and strengthen our hemisphere because we already
see where Europe is going the other part of the West.
We already see what's going on in the bar Russia
and whatnot. And I think Trump is just ahead of
(23:58):
all of this, and he sees bit and he's trying
to solidify the United States and the Western UH America's
power so we won't go down with this globalist plan.
I think the dunload doctrine, it's pretty much getting us
(24:18):
back into an isolationist type of country where we have
to protect our.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Own Okay, hold understand, hold on, just we're talking about it.
It's the Michael Berry Show, Parcy on the Black Line.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
You there, I'm here, all right, Yes, I'm here.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Discussion.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I think this is this is this is what talk
radio is meant for. I think we don't get to
have conversations with people we don't personally know like this
very often. Let me go back to your comments and
and make sure I understand them thoroughly. Is it your
position that the United States is safer if we.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Attack a run.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
It's my position that the United States, after all of
these decades of being in a conflict with a Run,
that Trump has decided that he wanted to try to
end the conflict, to eliminate the threat and get that
(25:34):
out the way, because our run has been a thign
no doubt.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Okay, I want to make sure I understand.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Let's set the table, all right, So when you say
eliminate the threat, what would be a win? Let's define
our mission, what would be what would we do that
would quote, eliminate the threat.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
I believe what he's doing right now, which is destroyed
in their military, of making them incapable of being as threatening.
It's not gonna happen overnight. I do believe that that's
the only recourse less than you know, going to a
(26:16):
nuclear option, which, like you said before, would be you know,
catastrophic and you know, set a bad precedent for everybody else.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
But okay, he did say in their civilization, So you
don't think he meant that.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
You meant you think that, No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I just not understand if we're the problem with any
discussion of Trump is that you lose a certain number
of people because anything short of Trump is God. I
love Trump, Donald J. Trump worshiped Trump, and you lose them.
And I understand that that's not a healthy republic, that's
not doing Donald Trump any favors. But let's just assume
you're not part of part of the group that just
(26:54):
says you can never question anything Trump, or you're helping
the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
So so now we've moved to we do recognize that
some of what he says is hyperbole. He does not
actually intend to wipe them off the face of the earth,
as he said.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Oh, I agree with that, okay.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
So now, so now we're understanding that we're looking beyond
the words and looking at the actions.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
And I agree with that as well.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
So, and I do think there is value to some
of what he does, which is hyperbolic language for the
sake of effect, and in many cases that does work.
In this case, I think we have to understand that
that's not realistic and that's not what he wishes either.
But when you say eliminate the threat, So if I
(27:44):
were to ask you, in very simple terms, are see
what would be a successful mission in this case? And
you said it's going to take a little long. How
long will this take?
Speaker 5 (27:57):
I think that it's probably not going to be complete
through Trump's administration, and I think that it has to
go on to the next administration. And if what he
wants to do, he wants to change the foreign policy
position on Iran from the previous administrations, from the history
(28:23):
where they've been a thorn on outside. We don't want
them to be a thorign in our side. We want
to keep the pressure on them. And nobody has done
this yet, and it's been threatening to be done, but
he's finally pulling the trigger. Now. If he leads a
JD and Marco gets in there, they can keep the
(28:44):
pressure on Iran in this foreign policy position. He's trying
to change the foreign policy.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Let's start with he's changing the foreign policy position. I
think most Americans would support that. This you say that
his efforts going to extend beyond his administration, so something
more than another two and a half years.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
And let's presume that Republicans win, which.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
I think I think some of these answers would affect
whether Republicans do win in twenty eight. But let's just
assume Republicans win in twenty eight and as you say,
that's that's Marco and JD.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
But that's that's all very hypothetical. But let's just say
that's the.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Case for us to be in a sustained engagement for
that period of time. As you say, keeping the heat
on Iran at that point, I'm assuming we've extended beyond
air superiority and drones and bombings, and now we're at
the boots on the ground face right.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Well, that's a big one. Awesome.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
I don't want to drag you into something you don't
you don't consent to. That's a big one.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Well, think about what he's saying about taking the island,
thinking about some of his positions in regards to getting
to his agenda and an end game. So he wants
to make them powerless in every way possible, and this
is why he's talking about attacking their grids and they
oil and strangling them and things of this nature. But
(30:14):
constant pressure and are we going to be able to
sustain it over the years. I mean, we've been giving
money to a war over that in Ukraine, and I don't.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Think we should have done that either. But I don't
think that's our excuse here. I believe that George W.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Bush's involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan is the reason Barack
Obama became president. I think a sustained ground war without
any clear mission and without public support destroyed the Republican
Party as we know it, and I'm not eager to
do that again. And I will remind you that Saddam
Hussein was very unpopular in the United States, and that's
(30:52):
why they had to tie Osama bin Laden to Iraq
and Afghanistan and why we needed to be there. But
I will tell you, if you look at the American
public's view of Republican presidents after the Bush administration's administration,
there was this idea that they're going to drag us
into these long wars with no exit strategy, with no
(31:14):
clear mission, with no clear victory, and we will ra
Rah for the troops till the cows come home, but
we will lose elections because of it. Now, if the
argument here is that we are knocking Iran down to size,
I understand that. But we went into Iraq, which was
(31:37):
not nearly as powerful when we went in the second
time in three as Iran is today, and we stayed
there effectively twenty years. And I don't think anybody would
suggest we got a victory out of it, or that
we left Iraq any better than we found it. Not
only that, what do we leave in its wake in Iran?
(32:00):
The big question, and this again, these are questions that
are not easy to answer. I wish I had an answer.
I have questions, which is what you do in a republic.
I wish I had an answer, But what does the
government look like?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
In Iran?
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Everyone screams regime change, regime change. Do you have a
leader to put in there? There's no shap Holovey waiting
in the wings like we had before as our puppet.
Syria is broken, Egypt is broken, Iraq is broken, Afghanistan
will always be broken. So I think this is a
lot more complicated than people quite recognize.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
And we can't just say.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Kick their ass, Donald Trump, we got the Don row
Mark doctrine. I think you're going to lose a lot
of American lives in an effort that the American public
doesn't quite understand, and simple cheerleading is not going to
answer the question.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
It may for you, and it may for the next guy.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
There's me a lot of voters that lose, that leave
our party as a result of this.
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