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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The Michael Verie Show is on the air.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Well maybe you're on h ZEB bound will go V.
Number of these other products, a lot of them are compounded.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I know a number of people have asked me what
I thought they went to Synergenics to get testosterone, because
that's where I go to get testosterone. I have B
twelve yesterday ramon. They can they can do a lot
of other things, but they also do testosterone in a
number of I mean they also do this category of drugs.
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It's a compounded drug. And I've had a number of
friends who've lost a good bit of weight who were
unable to lose that weight. And I've had a number
of friends who remarked, as we as we come in
it earlier, that they're drinking a lot less and they're
happy about that because it was causing them this problem,
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or that that they are relieved to be that they're
being more responsible. I know, if you're a person of great,
if you're a saint like my wife or my dad,
you say, well, I don't need a drug. Drink last year,
don't drink so much, Okay, fine. They like the result
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and however, they're getting there. Can't we just be happy
for them that they're getting there. Some people have less
self control than my wife or my father, and that's
just the way it is. But in any case, maybe
you're taking it, you want to know side effects, you
want to know how to supplement, or maybe you're not
taking it. You've considered maybe somebody you know or maybe
someone you know is considering it. Doctor John Cottingham is
(02:08):
back our MDVIP doctor. And let me just say this.
A number of people have called in or email. It's
always better to email because Ramones and Mill doing the show,
because then I can handle your issue and I can
hand it off to somebody who might be able to
help you. He's part of a group called MDVIP. He
can answer if I get this wrong, but they basically
handle the back office. So the doctor can be the doctor,
so that he can take your calls, so he can
(02:29):
talk to you, so that he can help you be
healthier and live longer and solve your problems and all
that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
But if you want to see him.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
And this is true of every show sponsor, email me
directly and I will literally email him and you will
have him call you directly back and give you his
cell phone number. For those people who say, well, I'll
just do it on my own and you end up
at another doctor or another office or something else, I
can't help you. I would love to help you, so
email me through our website Michael Berryshow dot com, and
I can get you a lot better help with whatever
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it is you're looking for.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
John Cottingham is our guest, he's our concierge doctor. We
were talking earlier about the two types of drugs, and
one of them is UH is a satiation drug. It's
it's not moving things through the intestine, so your stomach
is full, which triggers your brain. I'm full, I don't
need to eat. Talk a little bit about that category
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and retail brand of drug and how that works.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yes, that sounds like you're talking about the magnetide even
newer Wan's red a true tide which is not widely
available yet. But the glts and yes, they work on
a number of different mechanisms, and one, as you mentioned
certainly is slowed gastric empty, which causes an earlier satiety
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during the course of a meal. UH.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
And some other satiety means you're you're seated, you do
your your bellies full.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Ramonte wouldn't know that.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Okay, go ahead, yeah, good for remone. So the you
get full, quicker, you notice, hey, I don't need to
keep eating any longer. I'm full, And that of course
helps to result unless color consumption and ultimately weight loss.
But it also affects the signals or the signaling between
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your brain and your gastric system, your GI track, including
your stomach that I just don't know I've had supper.
Now it's you know, later in the evening and watching
a little TV or whatever it is I'm doing, I
think I might like a little couple of doritos, or
I think I might like a little something. It just
kind of takes that away. And so the snacking after
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a nice full meal is basically addressed in that way,
so you just don't feel that need or that desire
to start munching again needlessly or mindlessly.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
All right, let me ask some six questions as if
I'm six years old, and I would ask that you
answer as if I'm six years old. So we're all
caught up at on the basics of the biology.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
So if I'm called a six year old to what's
I'm often called to sild.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
So if we were we were taught when we were
young that food is fuel. So when we take away
this fuel, So if if it's just sitting there in
the gut and it's not processing, how are we fueling
our bodies?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
So the slower food or the products of food enter
our system at a point where it's low enough take
it to the extreme fasting, our insulin levels fall very low.
And when the insulin level falls low, your body begins
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to metabolize stored fat for energy. Does that make sense? Sure? Sure? So,
so as anything that slows down the enterie of food,
let's just say, in simplistic terms, into our into our bloodstream,
is going to trigger our own metabolism to begin to
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utilize fat for energy. And so if we had a
really big meal and we're not on a golp and
that and is certainly if it's a carbohydrate containing meal,
you know, a starchy meal, then our blood shicker is
going to spike. Another hormone will fall that will then
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lock away our ability to access fat for energy, and
we will. And so every calorie that we consumed in
a large carbohydrate containing meal that's not being used at
that moment to fuel our basal metabolic rate is going
to be stored as fat. That's the only possibility for
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which explains why some people, and we've probably all heard it,
maybe insteaded ourselves. You know, I had a tiny sliver
of pie and a gained three pounds And the reason
for that is that hormonal response the insulin spiked a
different hormone, hormone sensitive light pace fill low, and we
had had one choice for all the calories we ate
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for the next twelve to fourteen hours, which was distored
as fat. And so that slow gastric emptying helps to
lower the level of insulin required to let's say, process
that meal.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
It really is a what you know type thing. And
I feel bad.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
I've known people over the years that, you know, they
have the knowledge of the human body and our processes
that we had in the seventies, and they've never advanced,
and they've held faster than they think I need to
lose weight. So they start jogging and eating celery and
that's not And so you see these people suffering and
struggling and in the end unsuccessful, and then they give up,
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and it's.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Hard to get in back and give up.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, and when we understand how carrying all this extra
weight is going to cause stress on your failure, on
your organs and your joints. I mean, I'd love to
be able to help them more anyway. Doctor John cotting
Ham's our guest.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
More coming up. This is the Michael Varie Show.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, that's the one man.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Doctor John Cottingham is a concierge doctor. The practice I
prefer for your general practitioner because that's the doctor that
you don't need to go see every day.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
You don't need to wait in the lobby, you don't
need to go to a medical center in a park
in a parking garage. You don't need to wait outside
while they've overbooked twenty people for ten minutes. Then you
finally see the doctor and they have thirty seconds to spare.
It is a one on one old fashioned doctor relationship
like out in the country where before we had cell phones,
but if we had, you have the doctor your cell phone.
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You talk to them, you visit, you share your fears,
your concerns, your symptoms, and you have direct access to
the doctor.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
It's so the way to do it.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
It's absolutely the way to do it anyway, Doctor John
cotting hams, I guess we're talking about we're talking about
this class of drugs that is absolutely transforming America. As
people are losing weight, restaurants are reporting that the selling
less fast food product. Companies are having to change what
they do. Doctor John cotting Him is our guest. Let's
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talk a little bit about for people who are on
we Go, VI's zeb Bound or one of these.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
And by the way, you do this as well out
of your office.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Okay, So let's walk through somebody coming in and they
do a patient work up and.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
They feel like they're overweight.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Whatever that looks like there, B and I and they said,
I want to Michael Berry said, you do this, talk
to me a little bit about that. What does that
process look like for you? What kind of questions are
you asking? What are you trying to do well.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
We're going to want to know about their nutritional habits,
their exercise habits, also their sleep habits. That has a
huge rule in weight maintenance, whether it's weight loss or
weight gain, or muscle gain or muscle loss, all of
those things are important, as is Social engagement is spending
time as a person with the people you love and
the people who love you. All of those things matter,
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So we get into all of those things, but then
we also gather a lot of data. And one of
the important pieces of data that we gather here regarding
golps and some of the issues that we mentioned earlier
with muscle loss, is we get a measurement of their
body composition. In other words, we want to know prior
to starting a medication like this, how much of their
total body weight is fat and how much of their
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total body weight is skeletal muscle mass, and then we
can monitor. As I said before, it's the muscle loss
that at least from my perspective, is the biggest concern
outside of those potential side effects that we mentioned the
gastro peresis. It's the muscle loss that we want to
focus on. So when we measure at the outset and
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then we know what those numbers are, and then we'll
come back in six weeks or eight weeks or whatever,
ME and this person, this patient feels like is the
appropriate interval and will remeasure that way, we can ensure
their gaining muscle are certainly at least not losing muscle,
but also that they're losing fat and kind of take
it from there, and we can make recommendations and suggestions,
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and we also get into if we didn't get the
result we were looking for, whether that's not enough fat
loss or not enough overall weight loss, or if we've
been losing muscle. Oftentimes we'll discuss that. But oftentimes if
we're not gaining the muscle, it's usually in most cases
they're not eating enough protein.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Are you a one gram of protein per pound person?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
You know, that's sort of a more or less a
rule of thumb. There's no randomized controlled trials that would
say this is the correct I think that's a good
rule of thumb. If you're involved in a lot of
strenuous weight training and then also incorporate aerobic training cardio
training in your regular routine, probably need a little bit
more than that. Certainly they're trying to gain muscle. Interestingly,
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the older we get, as we could get into our
forties and fifty six set me beyond, our protein requirements
actually increase. Not our overall caloric requirement, but the protein
requirement required to maintain muscle mass increases.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
And that is because we are naturally our several thousand
year old body feels like well he's not a hunter
gatherer anymore.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
He doesn't need that strength.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Correct. Yeah, we procreated, We've done our we've done our
biological job. We're starting to prepare to check out.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
At least our bodys are correct.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
And by the way, all of that can be mitigated.
And look for quite a while.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
And when you put someone on one of these drugs,
because we've talked about, you know, I want to lose weight,
and here's all the good, here's all the reasons I
want to lose weight. What are you beginning to monitor
more closely? What are you telling them? Hey, if this happens,
give me a call. Hey, keep an eye on this.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
So if they begin to experience nausea, you know, I
certainly want to know about that. In there there would
be some decisions to make at that point, depending on
how bad the nausea is, is a constant and howpen
it occurs, those kinds of things, So that would be first.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
We'd want to know what more percentage of your cases
would you say, you see that happen?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You see nausea?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
You know, to be honest, I have not encountered any
type of chronic nausea in the patients and I've got
a fair number that we do you treat with this
medication or medications in that class. I've just not really
encountered it much. There has been some reports from patients
where they had some mild NAUGA but they managed just fine. Uh,
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if it gets a little bit worse, we can give them,
you know, anti nausea medications. But if it gets you know, beyond,
if you know it's just the simple medications, the more
conservative measures aren't successful in managing the NAUGA, then we
have to be concerned about, you know, gastroparesis and causing
a long term, you know, unfortunate side effect.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
It's interesting how many people will say to me, you know,
you're ragging on this or that person that's on these
drugs and they're losing weight, and you think that's great.
But you know, I read a story about, you know,
some guy in Taiwan and he killed over Okay, all right,
you're gonna have some outliers. You are, in fact going
to have statistically some people, no matter what you do,
who are going to have side effect that it's not positive.
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But nobody considers what are the long term effects of
high blood pressure? What are long term effects of heart problems,
with the long term effects of carrying extra weight on
your liver, on your joints, on all of these other things.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I mean, that's real.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
What do you see when someone John Cottingham's our guest,
he's our concierge doctor. I saw a number the other day, John,
it was like twenty five percent of your body weight.
The number of people who did a study on one
of these that lost twenty five percent of their body weight.
And it was an insane number of people. That's a
lot of weight. What do you see people the positive
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effects once they start losing weight on these drugs certainly.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
So one of the maybe obvious effects is you know
that percentage of weight loss, it eases. Every ten pounds
of weight loss feels like thirty pounds to your knees. Okay,
so you know, the lack of weight on your skeletal
system is improves people's pain a lot. The positive effects
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they get emotionally from seeing, you know, liking what they
see better in the mirror oftentimes will further motivate them
to eat properly and to exercise and do other things.
But now we're starting to see in some of the
from some of the research centers that study these medications
that we're beginning to see decreases in inflammation. Now, is
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that due to weight?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
You hang around for a minute, yes, sir, all right.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
John Cottingham, concierge doctor is our guests ran connect Repent.
You can email me through the website. Doctor John Cottingham
is a concierge doctor. It's a whole different way to
practice medicine. I love it. It's it's a return to
the past, a different way to connect directly with a doctor,
to cut out the middlemen, the admins, the lady behind
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the plastic sliding glass that doesn't want you banging on
the thing, but you need to tell her you're here,
the waiting rooms, the bad magazines, the parking garages, the
long drive, the traffic in the medical center. It's a
whole different and better way. As a patient and for doctors,
they find a lot more fulfilling and rewarding experience as
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a doctor in a lot less stress because you're not
working for MBAs and physician practice anymore. You're practicing medicine.
John Cottingham's our guests, and we were talking about the
GLP ones, the zeb bounds and Magovi's and no zimpics
for doctors. When we talk about weight loss generally, and
that's not all you do. You're a total health guy.
(16:48):
But when we talk about weight loss generally, rank some
of the levels of importance. You mentioned sleep. You and
I've talked a lot about water consumption. Off air, You've
talked about these Is there a point where someone should say, look,
I've tried real hard to lose weight. This is going
to give me because I will tell you this as
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a person who's lost seventy pounds twice in my life.
I will tell you that when I way less, I
exercise more, I sleep better, I drink less, I drink
more water, I'm more conscious. I'm either I'm full throttle.
I'm either healthy or I'm not. Do you is there
a point where you go, Okay, it's time to start
talking about these drugs.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Absolutely? Number one, we want to make sure there's no counterindications.
We don't necessarily have to go into them. There are
some multiple integrin neo places one, but that would take
another show to discuss. But yeah, So if a person's
you know, you know, really followed a diet or a
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nutrition strategy that we know should work, if they're exercising
using all three types of exercise resistance train, high intensity
aerobic training, and low intensity steady state aerobic training, and
they're just up against the wall. Yeah, we don't want
them throwing the baby out with the bathwater and saying
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getting frustrated and saying nothing works. And you're right to
point out too as well. A lot of people, once
they start experiencing some success, it motivates all other aspects
of their life. They start to regulate their sleep patterns better,
they start to eat better, they show up to the
gym or to their workouts with their personal trainer, whatever
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the case may be. They adopt a whole host of
other habits that helps to then further stimulate or spur
their success. So if they've gotten frustrated, and certainly if
they've got any other health issues like hypertension or insulin resistance,
or diabetes or heart disease, these medications can be really helpful.
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Number One, the patients begin, the people begin to experience success,
as we said, then motivates more success. But there's even
newer studies being done now where it's thought that the
medication itself is going to lower inflammation, and inflammation is
really the root cause of heart disease, and heart disease
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is still the number one killer of all people, male
and female. So absolutely there's a time to give serious
considerations to these medications because of their efficacy, how well
they work, and in most cases not you know, side
effects that can either be mitigated or tolerated.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
When we talk about these things, I've watched so many
people and the people that I'm talking to are parents
of kids, who's went to school with my kids, and
so these are these are doctors and lawyers and and
company owners, and and you know, they're not throwing they're
not burning money, but they're willing to invest in in
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their health. And this is you know, at least in
the beginning, was not cheap. When we talk about a
cost for someone to take one of these drugs, what
are we talking about.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
It depends on their insurance coverages. And there's there's now
newer avenues for people who don't have very good insurance
coverage to have access to these medications at cheaper prices.
I don't know the exact prices that are available, but
it does vary per insurance plan and the source of
the medication. And there's now compounding pharmacies that are formulating
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these medications. Uh, and there's there's some reputable ones around
as far as compounding pharmacies are concerned, some located right
here in Houston as well, that you can trust what
you're you know, what you're receiving from from those sources.
I would also say, though, as part of the cost,
consider what is the cost of being in a wait,
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what is the cost of having a congestive heart failure?
What is the cost of having diabetes? And the care
and the misery that you know accompanies those awful diagnoses
so well.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I also think that delivery mechanism advancement is going to
make a big difference now that it's in pill form
instead of shot, because the shot mechanism is you know
that they made a huge advancement. You'd know, I wouldn't
some number of years ago where they could send people
home with a shot or mail people a shot that
you take the cap off, you know, push it and
it goes. And now to be able to do the
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sublingual the pill, that's just going to make a world
of difference.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I think that's a barrier for a lot of people.
You know that the idea of giving themselves are administering
themselves a shot.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Sure, of course.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Sure, let's talk about the finances of your practice, because
I tell people a number of people I know can
afford to go to a concierge doctor. They just don't
know it. They can afford to do a lot of things,
they just don't know it. But there is there are
dollars that have to be spent. And I explain to
people what's your health worth, what's your what's paying off
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your debt worth?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
What are these things worth to you?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
And some people are in this mindset if my insurance
doesn't pay for it, I'm not going to do it,
and they'll die at forty years old, you know, scrimping
and saving a few pennies here and there. I think
it's penny wise pound foolage. But let's talk about becoming
a new patient of John Cuttingham.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Sure. So as far as cost, it's an annual fee
of twenty five hundred dollars, and that can be paid
either quarterly or every six months or annually, and that
includes that no additional cost. A complete and very exhaustive
annual wellness is it that occurs every year? And then
there's twenty four to seven access to me via my
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cell phone or my staff. If it's during normal business hours,
same day, next day appointments, I'm always on time and
never in a you know there, you won't be sitting
in a waiting room full of people. Typically, when a
ship patient shows up, they're usually the only patient in
the practice at that moment until that visit has been completed.
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In the visits can be as little as ten or
fifteen minutes if that's all we need, or they can
be extended up to over an hour if that's what's needed,
and that doesn't stress the practice, the staff or anything.
That's just kind of built into our model and statistical
analysis of this model, if you will, if practice has
shown a seventy percent reduction in hospitalizations.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Because it's more proactive, it's more interactive.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Absolutely, it is as most of us are. No. It
is so much easier to prevent something proactively than it
is to treat it reactively.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Right, And I have found in my experience with the
doctors that I like that that I use for my
different body parts, Mohit Care my urologist, and Dukeman, my cardiologist.
I have found that you get doctors that get outside
of the This.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Is not beating up on doctors. It's not what I
intend to do.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
But a lot of doctors are quite unhappy, as you know,
because they're practicing in a big system and they're told
how to practice law and they're really just a corporate
employee with the with the license to write scripts, and
it's unrewarding. It's unfulfilling to them, and I don't think
it's good for the patient.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I agree, And it's not why we go to medical
school either. You know, no one goes to medical school thinking,
you know, they're going to be, you know, at the
behest of a corporate entity and being able to do
only what they're allowed to do by any one patient.
Ten source company.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
John Cottingham would vip you can connect with him through
me if you like that.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Thanks buddy.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Claire Rights Zara, I've heard you talk about shade doctors.
We moved to Fullshoer three years ago and we have
a nice back porch, but it faces west in the
afternoon heat is brutal in the summer. We'd like to
get some roll down shades so it can be enjoyed
in the summer and our plants on the porch don't
burn up. My husband has stage four renal cell carcinoma
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and really enjoys going out on the porch to read
and study his Bible. I'd love to get this for
him for his birthday slash Father's Day in June. Can
you please have them call me? Thank you so much,
love your show, blessings Claire, and give our lessening. I
love these emails. I love a window into people's lives.
I love to know what they're going through. You know,
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we're all and Claire was too twenty thirty forty years ago.
We're all just bumbling along, living day to day, and
we're all going to end up if we're lucky, old
with cancer, dementia, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, renal failure, lung cancer. I mean,
it's not to be depressing. This, that's life. There is
a cycle to life, and you know, if we're fortunate,
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we get to experience each one of them, from being
a little bitty to being really old, and not everyone
makes the whole journey. But I find it interesting in
my life to get a window into so many other
people's lives, and I find that it helps me live
my life better because I'm more mindful that everybody's not
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where I am today. I'm at a lucky spot in
my life. I'm healthy, my wife's healthy, my dad's alive,
my kids are healthy. They're doing well. They're going to school,
they're having fun, they're learning, they're excited.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I have a good job with.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
People that I really enjoy being around, talking and interacting
with people that I really enjoy talking to and hearing
from at a company that values me. It's you know,
each of us, in our own way is we're blessed
beyond measure, and you know that it won't always be
like this. And I think it's very healthy for me
to see that there may be somebody in the line
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in front of me or behind me that buying their
lunch or opening the door or pulling out the chair
or giving them a compliment would go a long way.
One of my favorite things to do is to flirt
with little ladies, because little old ladies are not offended
that you flirt with them, and so you can open
the door with a flirt of how pretty this or
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that is on them, and you'll figure out very quickly
whether they want this to progress or they don't know
why you're talking to them and they're wondering if you're
going to accost them. But actually learn that habit from
my mother, which it wasn't flirting, it was being sweet.
And my mother would always say something really nice to
a little old lady who no one else would notice.
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You know, she's wearing a bright red today, and you know,
in her mind, she got up and wore bright red
today and no one else noticed it because she's not
young and beautiful in a magazine cover and nobody's trying
to get with her. But she's proud of her bright
red you know, hat or shoes or jacket or whatever else.
And I picked that up for my mother. And how
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much joy you can give that person when you do that.
And I just love the idea that now I can
get on the phone with the head of a company,
because they're going to buy shades no matter what, whether
they use shade docks or somebody else, they're going to
buy shades. And they may or may not. They may
just get into somebody's sales funnel and you know, luck
of the draw, and hopefully they get a nice person,
and there's a chance they don't it whatever company, and
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not every customer that calls shade Docks is going to
get the experience that this lady's about to have. But
to be able to do that gives me a feeling
of power and joy and fulfillment that I can rock
this lady's world for a moment. She's now going to
be fussed over by the head of this company in
a way that she wouldn't otherwise. And that's that kind
of thing gives me a lot of joy. I tell
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people all the time, if on air and off air,
from a very selfish perspective, if you learn little ways
as often as you can to do something for someone else.
I don't mean you brag about it. I mean you
post about it. I mean just little things. If you're
on the lookout to constantly do little things wherever to
improve someone else's life, to make them feel better, even
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if just for a moment. It's ephemeral, but you will
get so much more joy out of it than they do.
It gives you such an endorphin rush to do that,
and it's just it's a good way to live your life.
It's a very selfish way. People get uncomfortable when I
say that we do nice things for other people from
a purely selfish perspective, and instead of people getting angry
(29:29):
over that because they don't know this language is freakish
to them, instead of getting angry over that, understand this,
every species in nature is primarily focused on survival and perpetuation,
a continuation of the species. And when you understand that
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we're driven in this manner that, how do you tie
into that to get what you need out of the
world and get other people to do what you want
them to do for And when you understand that we're
all primarily focused on the creature we came into this
world as and we're going out alone, then maybe, just
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maybe people can say because for whatever reason, some people
don't do anything nice for anyone else. They hold back.
They don't want to be thought odd for talking to
a stranger. They don't know how to help someone else,
they don't know how to do these sorts of things.
And if you say to them, do it for yourself.
I don't know, maybe you might prick their conscience.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I don't know it. That's my attempt.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I just know that for me personally, it gives me
a lot of joy if I can tell that someone
is happy because of something I did, and so I'm not.
I think it's disingenuous to say, well, I did that
for that little old lady because she's a little old lady.
Do things for little old ladies. No, No, I did
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that for a little old lady because I empathize with
her situation. She's all alone. She wants to do something
nice for her husband. He's obviously in the sunset moment
of his life. She obviously loves him. She's trying to
give him some joy. She's reached out to the one
person she thinks can do something to help that happen.
And I am that one. Look at me, Look at me,
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looking at me, look at me patting myself on the back,
look at me liking the person in the mirror saying,
oh yeah, yeah, you get to do that. It befalls
you in this moment to get to do that. Everybody
has that moment. If you run a business, you've got employees,
you don't have to bankrupt the company, you have to
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give everybody one hundred thousand dollars raise. You can literally
at this moment say guys, let's all go to launch
my treat. You can literally tomorrow blow everything off and
say all right, guys, we're stopping at Ace Hardware on
the way. We're getting swim trunks and we're going to
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the beach today. We're having a beach day. We're going
to call it. Call it group bonding. Or everybody gets
the day off, or everybody gets a little spot bonus,
or we're having food brought in or fill in the blank.
Every single person can do that. My mom would do
little spot things for us. It's some silly little thing.
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It made the world of difference. You know, make your
little cake that you you know, your pound cake or
your bunt cake that you love every person.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Oh well, I don't call if I'm not rich, I don't.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yeah you do, Yeah you do. If it is to be,
it's up to me. There's somebody's life you can make better.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Right now.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
You can call your elderly parent you as a as
a nurse can go in and love on your patient
a little more.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
As a teacher can do.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
As a parent can can call up to the school
and say I'd like to make a report on miss Jenkins,
and the Prince will say, okay, I just want you
to know she's the best teacher ever.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
She did this wonderful thing. Oh my goodness. I love
to do that.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Start with the tone that it's going to be an
insult or a criticism, and say I want this put
in her file. She's wonderful. Oh, just everybody at the
whole school is happy that day. Plus there's doughnuts.
It's that time time time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The Michael Verie Show is on the air.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Well maybe you're on h ZEB bound will go V.
Number of these other products, a lot of them are compounded.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I know a number of people have asked me what
I thought they went to Synergenics to get testosterone, because
that's where I go to get testosterone. I have B
twelve yesterday ramon. They can they can do a lot
of other things, but they also do testosterone in a
number of I mean they also do this category of drugs.
(01:05):
It's a compounded drug. And I've had a number of
friends who've lost a good bit of weight who were
unable to lose that weight. And I've had a number
of friends who remarked, as we as we come in
it earlier, that they're drinking a lot less and they're
happy about that because it was causing them this problem,
(01:25):
or that that they are relieved to be that they're
being more responsible. I know, if you're a person of great,
if you're a saint like my wife or my dad,
you say, well, I don't need a drug. Drink last year,
don't drink so much, Okay, fine. They like the result
(01:46):
and however, they're getting there. Can't we just be happy
for them that they're getting there. Some people have less
self control than my wife or my father, and that's
just the way it is. But in any case, maybe
you're taking it, you want to know side effects, you
want to know how to supplement, or maybe you're not
taking it. You've considered maybe somebody you know or maybe
someone you know is considering it. Doctor John Cottingham is
(02:08):
back our MDVIP doctor. And let me just say this.
A number of people have called in or email. It's
always better to email because Ramones and Mill doing the show,
because then I can handle your issue and I can
hand it off to somebody who might be able to
help you. He's part of a group called MDVIP. He
can answer if I get this wrong, but they basically
handle the back office. So the doctor can be the doctor,
so that he can take your calls, so he can
(02:29):
talk to you, so that he can help you be
healthier and live longer and solve your problems and all
that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
But if you want to see him.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
And this is true of every show sponsor, email me
directly and I will literally email him and you will
have him call you directly back and give you his
cell phone number. For those people who say, well, I'll
just do it on my own and you end up
at another doctor or another office or something else, I
can't help you. I would love to help you, so
email me through our website Michael Berryshow dot com, and
I can get you a lot better help with whatever
(02:59):
it is you're looking for.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
John Cottingham is our guest, he's our concierge doctor. We
were talking earlier about the two types of drugs, and
one of them is UH is a satiation drug. It's
it's not moving things through the intestine, so your stomach
is full, which triggers your brain. I'm full, I don't
need to eat. Talk a little bit about that category
(03:21):
and retail brand of drug and how that works.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yes, that sounds like you're talking about the magnetide even
newer Wan's red a true tide which is not widely
available yet. But the glts and yes, they work on
a number of different mechanisms, and one, as you mentioned
certainly is slowed gastric empty, which causes an earlier satiety
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during the course of a meal. UH.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
And some other satiety means you're you're seated, you do
your your bellies full.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Ramonte wouldn't know that.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Okay, go ahead, yeah, good for remone. So the you
get full, quicker, you notice, hey, I don't need to
keep eating any longer. I'm full, And that of course
helps to result unless color consumption and ultimately weight loss.
But it also affects the signals or the signaling between
(04:18):
your brain and your gastric system, your GI track, including
your stomach that I just don't know I've had supper.
Now it's you know, later in the evening and watching
a little TV or whatever it is I'm doing, I
think I might like a little couple of doritos, or
I think I might like a little something. It just
kind of takes that away. And so the snacking after
(04:40):
a nice full meal is basically addressed in that way,
so you just don't feel that need or that desire
to start munching again needlessly or mindlessly.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
All right, let me ask some six questions as if
I'm six years old, and I would ask that you
answer as if I'm six years old. So we're all
caught up at on the basics of the biology.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
So if I'm called a six year old to what's
I'm often called to sild.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
So if we were we were taught when we were
young that food is fuel. So when we take away
this fuel, So if if it's just sitting there in
the gut and it's not processing, how are we fueling
our bodies?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
So the slower food or the products of food enter
our system at a point where it's low enough take
it to the extreme fasting, our insulin levels fall very low.
And when the insulin level falls low, your body begins
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to metabolize stored fat for energy. Does that make sense? Sure? Sure? So,
so as anything that slows down the enterie of food,
let's just say, in simplistic terms, into our into our bloodstream,
is going to trigger our own metabolism to begin to
(05:58):
utilize fat for energy. And so if we had a
really big meal and we're not on a golp and
that and is certainly if it's a carbohydrate containing meal,
you know, a starchy meal, then our blood shicker is
going to spike. Another hormone will fall that will then
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lock away our ability to access fat for energy, and
we will. And so every calorie that we consumed in
a large carbohydrate containing meal that's not being used at
that moment to fuel our basal metabolic rate is going
to be stored as fat. That's the only possibility for
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which explains why some people, and we've probably all heard it,
maybe insteaded ourselves. You know, I had a tiny sliver
of pie and a gained three pounds And the reason
for that is that hormonal response the insulin spiked a
different hormone, hormone sensitive light pace fill low, and we
had had one choice for all the calories we ate
(07:02):
for the next twelve to fourteen hours, which was distored
as fat. And so that slow gastric emptying helps to
lower the level of insulin required to let's say, process
that meal.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
It really is a what you know type thing. And
I feel bad.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
I've known people over the years that, you know, they
have the knowledge of the human body and our processes
that we had in the seventies, and they've never advanced,
and they've held faster than they think I need to
lose weight. So they start jogging and eating celery and
that's not And so you see these people suffering and
struggling and in the end unsuccessful, and then they give up,
(07:49):
and it's.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Hard to get in back and give up.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, and when we understand how carrying all this extra
weight is going to cause stress on your failure, on
your organs and your joints. I mean, I'd love to
be able to help them more anyway. Doctor John cotting
Ham's our guest.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
More coming up. This is the Michael Varie Show.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, that's the one man.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Doctor John Cottingham is a concierge doctor. The practice I
prefer for your general practitioner because that's the doctor that
you don't need to go see every day.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
You don't need to wait in the lobby, you don't
need to go to a medical center in a park
in a parking garage. You don't need to wait outside
while they've overbooked twenty people for ten minutes. Then you
finally see the doctor and they have thirty seconds to spare.
It is a one on one old fashioned doctor relationship
like out in the country where before we had cell phones,
but if we had, you have the doctor your cell phone.
(08:47):
You talk to them, you visit, you share your fears,
your concerns, your symptoms, and you have direct access to
the doctor.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
It's so the way to do it.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
It's absolutely the way to do it anyway, Doctor John
cotting hams, I guess we're talking about we're talking about
this class of drugs that is absolutely transforming America. As
people are losing weight, restaurants are reporting that the selling
less fast food product. Companies are having to change what
they do. Doctor John cotting Him is our guest. Let's
(09:16):
talk a little bit about for people who are on
we Go, VI's zeb Bound or one of these.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
And by the way, you do this as well out
of your office.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Okay, So let's walk through somebody coming in and they
do a patient work up and.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
They feel like they're overweight.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Whatever that looks like there, B and I and they said,
I want to Michael Berry said, you do this, talk
to me a little bit about that. What does that
process look like for you? What kind of questions are
you asking? What are you trying to do well.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
We're going to want to know about their nutritional habits,
their exercise habits, also their sleep habits. That has a
huge rule in weight maintenance, whether it's weight loss or
weight gain, or muscle gain or muscle loss, all of
those things are important, as is Social engagement is spending
time as a person with the people you love and
the people who love you. All of those things matter,
(10:04):
So we get into all of those things, but then
we also gather a lot of data. And one of
the important pieces of data that we gather here regarding
golps and some of the issues that we mentioned earlier
with muscle loss, is we get a measurement of their
body composition. In other words, we want to know prior
to starting a medication like this, how much of their
total body weight is fat and how much of their
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total body weight is skeletal muscle mass, and then we
can monitor. As I said before, it's the muscle loss
that at least from my perspective, is the biggest concern
outside of those potential side effects that we mentioned the
gastro peresis. It's the muscle loss that we want to
focus on. So when we measure at the outset and
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then we know what those numbers are, and then we'll
come back in six weeks or eight weeks or whatever,
ME and this person, this patient feels like is the
appropriate interval and will remeasure that way, we can ensure
their gaining muscle are certainly at least not losing muscle,
but also that they're losing fat and kind of take
it from there, and we can make recommendations and suggestions,
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and we also get into if we didn't get the
result we were looking for, whether that's not enough fat
loss or not enough overall weight loss, or if we've
been losing muscle. Oftentimes we'll discuss that. But oftentimes if
we're not gaining the muscle, it's usually in most cases
they're not eating enough protein.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Are you a one gram of protein per pound person?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
You know, that's sort of a more or less a
rule of thumb. There's no randomized controlled trials that would
say this is the correct I think that's a good
rule of thumb. If you're involved in a lot of
strenuous weight training and then also incorporate aerobic training cardio
training in your regular routine, probably need a little bit
more than that. Certainly they're trying to gain muscle. Interestingly,
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the older we get, as we could get into our
forties and fifty six set me beyond, our protein requirements
actually increase. Not our overall caloric requirement, but the protein
requirement required to maintain muscle mass increases.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
And that is because we are naturally our several thousand
year old body feels like well he's not a hunter
gatherer anymore.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
He doesn't need that strength.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Correct. Yeah, we procreated, We've done our we've done our
biological job. We're starting to prepare to check out.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
At least our bodys are correct.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
And by the way, all of that can be mitigated.
And look for quite a while.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
And when you put someone on one of these drugs,
because we've talked about, you know, I want to lose weight,
and here's all the good, here's all the reasons I
want to lose weight. What are you beginning to monitor
more closely? What are you telling them? Hey, if this happens,
give me a call. Hey, keep an eye on this.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
So if they begin to experience nausea, you know, I
certainly want to know about that. In there there would
be some decisions to make at that point, depending on
how bad the nausea is, is a constant and howpen
it occurs, those kinds of things, So that would be first.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
We'd want to know what more percentage of your cases
would you say, you see that happen?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You see nausea?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
You know, to be honest, I have not encountered any
type of chronic nausea in the patients and I've got
a fair number that we do you treat with this
medication or medications in that class. I've just not really
encountered it much. There has been some reports from patients
where they had some mild NAUGA but they managed just fine. Uh,
(13:35):
if it gets a little bit worse, we can give them,
you know, anti nausea medications. But if it gets you know, beyond,
if you know it's just the simple medications, the more
conservative measures aren't successful in managing the NAUGA, then we
have to be concerned about, you know, gastroparesis and causing
a long term, you know, unfortunate side effect.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
It's interesting how many people will say to me, you know,
you're ragging on this or that person that's on these
drugs and they're losing weight, and you think that's great.
But you know, I read a story about, you know,
some guy in Taiwan and he killed over Okay, all right,
you're gonna have some outliers. You are, in fact going
to have statistically some people, no matter what you do,
who are going to have side effect that it's not positive.
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But nobody considers what are the long term effects of
high blood pressure? What are long term effects of heart problems,
with the long term effects of carrying extra weight on
your liver, on your joints, on all of these other things.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I mean, that's real.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
What do you see when someone John Cottingham's our guest,
he's our concierge doctor. I saw a number the other day, John,
it was like twenty five percent of your body weight.
The number of people who did a study on one
of these that lost twenty five percent of their body weight.
And it was an insane number of people. That's a
lot of weight. What do you see people the positive
(14:50):
effects once they start losing weight on these drugs certainly.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
So one of the maybe obvious effects is you know
that percentage of weight loss, it eases. Every ten pounds
of weight loss feels like thirty pounds to your knees. Okay,
so you know, the lack of weight on your skeletal
system is improves people's pain a lot. The positive effects
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they get emotionally from seeing, you know, liking what they
see better in the mirror oftentimes will further motivate them
to eat properly and to exercise and do other things.
But now we're starting to see in some of the
from some of the research centers that study these medications
that we're beginning to see decreases in inflammation. Now, is
(15:39):
that due to weight?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
You hang around for a minute, yes, sir, all right.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
John Cottingham, concierge doctor is our guests ran connect Repent.
You can email me through the website. Doctor John Cottingham
is a concierge doctor. It's a whole different way to
practice medicine. I love it. It's it's a return to
the past, a different way to connect directly with a doctor,
to cut out the middlemen, the admins, the lady behind
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the plastic sliding glass that doesn't want you banging on
the thing, but you need to tell her you're here,
the waiting rooms, the bad magazines, the parking garages, the
long drive, the traffic in the medical center. It's a
whole different and better way. As a patient and for doctors,
they find a lot more fulfilling and rewarding experience as
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a doctor in a lot less stress because you're not
working for MBAs and physician practice anymore. You're practicing medicine.
John Cottingham's our guests, and we were talking about the
GLP ones, the zeb bounds and Magovi's and no zimpics
for doctors. When we talk about weight loss generally, and
that's not all you do. You're a total health guy.
(16:48):
But when we talk about weight loss generally, rank some
of the levels of importance. You mentioned sleep. You and
I've talked a lot about water consumption. Off air, You've
talked about these Is there a point where someone should say, look,
I've tried real hard to lose weight. This is going
to give me because I will tell you this as
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a person who's lost seventy pounds twice in my life.
I will tell you that when I way less, I
exercise more, I sleep better, I drink less, I drink
more water, I'm more conscious. I'm either I'm full throttle.
I'm either healthy or I'm not. Do you is there
a point where you go, Okay, it's time to start
talking about these drugs.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Absolutely? Number one, we want to make sure there's no counterindications.
We don't necessarily have to go into them. There are
some multiple integrin neo places one, but that would take
another show to discuss. But yeah, So if a person's
you know, you know, really followed a diet or a
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nutrition strategy that we know should work, if they're exercising
using all three types of exercise resistance train, high intensity
aerobic training, and low intensity steady state aerobic training, and
they're just up against the wall. Yeah, we don't want
them throwing the baby out with the bathwater and saying
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getting frustrated and saying nothing works. And you're right to
point out too as well. A lot of people, once
they start experiencing some success, it motivates all other aspects
of their life. They start to regulate their sleep patterns better,
they start to eat better, they show up to the
gym or to their workouts with their personal trainer, whatever
(18:32):
the case may be. They adopt a whole host of
other habits that helps to then further stimulate or spur
their success. So if they've gotten frustrated, and certainly if
they've got any other health issues like hypertension or insulin resistance,
or diabetes or heart disease, these medications can be really helpful.
(18:57):
Number One, the patients begin, the people begin to experience success,
as we said, then motivates more success. But there's even
newer studies being done now where it's thought that the
medication itself is going to lower inflammation, and inflammation is
really the root cause of heart disease, and heart disease
(19:21):
is still the number one killer of all people, male
and female. So absolutely there's a time to give serious
considerations to these medications because of their efficacy, how well
they work, and in most cases not you know, side
effects that can either be mitigated or tolerated.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
When we talk about these things, I've watched so many
people and the people that I'm talking to are parents
of kids, who's went to school with my kids, and
so these are these are doctors and lawyers and and
company owners, and and you know, they're not throwing they're
not burning money, but they're willing to invest in in
(20:09):
their health. And this is you know, at least in
the beginning, was not cheap. When we talk about a
cost for someone to take one of these drugs, what
are we talking about.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
It depends on their insurance coverages. And there's there's now
newer avenues for people who don't have very good insurance
coverage to have access to these medications at cheaper prices.
I don't know the exact prices that are available, but
it does vary per insurance plan and the source of
the medication. And there's now compounding pharmacies that are formulating
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these medications. Uh, and there's there's some reputable ones around
as far as compounding pharmacies are concerned, some located right
here in Houston as well, that you can trust what
you're you know, what you're receiving from from those sources.
I would also say, though, as part of the cost,
consider what is the cost of being in a wait,
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what is the cost of having a congestive heart failure?
What is the cost of having diabetes? And the care
and the misery that you know accompanies those awful diagnoses
so well.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I also think that delivery mechanism advancement is going to
make a big difference now that it's in pill form
instead of shot, because the shot mechanism is you know
that they made a huge advancement. You'd know, I wouldn't
some number of years ago where they could send people
home with a shot or mail people a shot that
you take the cap off, you know, push it and
it goes. And now to be able to do the
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sublingual the pill, that's just going to make a world
of difference.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I think that's a barrier for a lot of people.
You know that the idea of giving themselves are administering
themselves a shot.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Sure, of course.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Sure, let's talk about the finances of your practice, because
I tell people a number of people I know can
afford to go to a concierge doctor. They just don't
know it. They can afford to do a lot of things,
they just don't know it. But there is there are
dollars that have to be spent. And I explain to
people what's your health worth, what's your what's paying off
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your debt worth?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
What are these things worth to you?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
And some people are in this mindset if my insurance
doesn't pay for it, I'm not going to do it,
and they'll die at forty years old, you know, scrimping
and saving a few pennies here and there. I think
it's penny wise pound foolage. But let's talk about becoming
a new patient of John Cuttingham.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Sure. So as far as cost, it's an annual fee
of twenty five hundred dollars, and that can be paid
either quarterly or every six months or annually, and that
includes that no additional cost. A complete and very exhaustive
annual wellness is it that occurs every year? And then
there's twenty four to seven access to me via my
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cell phone or my staff. If it's during normal business hours,
same day, next day appointments, I'm always on time and
never in a you know there, you won't be sitting
in a waiting room full of people. Typically, when a
ship patient shows up, they're usually the only patient in
the practice at that moment until that visit has been completed.
(23:12):
In the visits can be as little as ten or
fifteen minutes if that's all we need, or they can
be extended up to over an hour if that's what's needed,
and that doesn't stress the practice, the staff or anything.
That's just kind of built into our model and statistical
analysis of this model, if you will, if practice has
shown a seventy percent reduction in hospitalizations.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Because it's more proactive, it's more interactive.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Absolutely, it is as most of us are. No. It
is so much easier to prevent something proactively than it
is to treat it reactively.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Right, And I have found in my experience with the
doctors that I like that that I use for my
different body parts, Mohit Care my urologist, and Dukeman, my cardiologist.
I have found that you get doctors that get outside
of the This.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Is not beating up on doctors. It's not what I
intend to do.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
But a lot of doctors are quite unhappy, as you know,
because they're practicing in a big system and they're told
how to practice law and they're really just a corporate
employee with the with the license to write scripts, and
it's unrewarding. It's unfulfilling to them, and I don't think
it's good for the patient.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I agree, And it's not why we go to medical
school either. You know, no one goes to medical school thinking,
you know, they're going to be, you know, at the
behest of a corporate entity and being able to do
only what they're allowed to do by any one patient.
Ten source company.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
John Cottingham would vip you can connect with him through
me if you like that.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Thanks buddy.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Claire Rights Zara, I've heard you talk about shade doctors.
We moved to Fullshoer three years ago and we have
a nice back porch, but it faces west in the
afternoon heat is brutal in the summer. We'd like to
get some roll down shades so it can be enjoyed
in the summer and our plants on the porch don't
burn up. My husband has stage four renal cell carcinoma
(25:12):
and really enjoys going out on the porch to read
and study his Bible. I'd love to get this for
him for his birthday slash Father's Day in June. Can
you please have them call me? Thank you so much,
love your show, blessings Claire, and give our lessening. I
love these emails. I love a window into people's lives.
I love to know what they're going through. You know,
(25:34):
we're all and Claire was too twenty thirty forty years ago.
We're all just bumbling along, living day to day, and
we're all going to end up if we're lucky, old
with cancer, dementia, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, renal failure, lung cancer. I mean,
it's not to be depressing. This, that's life. There is
a cycle to life, and you know, if we're fortunate,
(25:57):
we get to experience each one of them, from being
a little bitty to being really old, and not everyone
makes the whole journey. But I find it interesting in
my life to get a window into so many other
people's lives, and I find that it helps me live
my life better because I'm more mindful that everybody's not
(26:19):
where I am today. I'm at a lucky spot in
my life. I'm healthy, my wife's healthy, my dad's alive,
my kids are healthy. They're doing well. They're going to school,
they're having fun, they're learning, they're excited.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I have a good job with.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
People that I really enjoy being around, talking and interacting
with people that I really enjoy talking to and hearing
from at a company that values me. It's you know,
each of us, in our own way is we're blessed
beyond measure, and you know that it won't always be
like this. And I think it's very healthy for me
to see that there may be somebody in the line
(26:59):
in front of me or behind me that buying their
lunch or opening the door or pulling out the chair
or giving them a compliment would go a long way.
One of my favorite things to do is to flirt
with little ladies, because little old ladies are not offended
that you flirt with them, and so you can open
the door with a flirt of how pretty this or
(27:19):
that is on them, and you'll figure out very quickly
whether they want this to progress or they don't know
why you're talking to them and they're wondering if you're
going to accost them. But actually learn that habit from
my mother, which it wasn't flirting, it was being sweet.
And my mother would always say something really nice to
a little old lady who no one else would notice.
(27:39):
You know, she's wearing a bright red today, and you know,
in her mind, she got up and wore bright red
today and no one else noticed it because she's not
young and beautiful in a magazine cover and nobody's trying
to get with her. But she's proud of her bright
red you know, hat or shoes or jacket or whatever else.
And I picked that up for my mother. And how
(28:00):
much joy you can give that person when you do that.
And I just love the idea that now I can
get on the phone with the head of a company,
because they're going to buy shades no matter what, whether
they use shade docks or somebody else, they're going to
buy shades. And they may or may not. They may
just get into somebody's sales funnel and you know, luck
of the draw, and hopefully they get a nice person,
and there's a chance they don't it whatever company, and
(28:22):
not every customer that calls shade Docks is going to
get the experience that this lady's about to have. But
to be able to do that gives me a feeling
of power and joy and fulfillment that I can rock
this lady's world for a moment. She's now going to
be fussed over by the head of this company in
a way that she wouldn't otherwise. And that's that kind
of thing gives me a lot of joy. I tell
(28:44):
people all the time, if on air and off air,
from a very selfish perspective, if you learn little ways
as often as you can to do something for someone else.
I don't mean you brag about it. I mean you
post about it. I mean just little things. If you're
on the lookout to constantly do little things wherever to
improve someone else's life, to make them feel better, even
(29:07):
if just for a moment. It's ephemeral, but you will
get so much more joy out of it than they do.
It gives you such an endorphin rush to do that,
and it's just it's a good way to live your life.
It's a very selfish way. People get uncomfortable when I
say that we do nice things for other people from
a purely selfish perspective, and instead of people getting angry
(29:29):
over that because they don't know this language is freakish
to them, instead of getting angry over that, understand this,
every species in nature is primarily focused on survival and perpetuation,
a continuation of the species. And when you understand that
(29:50):
we're driven in this manner that, how do you tie
into that to get what you need out of the
world and get other people to do what you want
them to do for And when you understand that we're
all primarily focused on the creature we came into this
world as and we're going out alone, then maybe, just
(30:11):
maybe people can say because for whatever reason, some people
don't do anything nice for anyone else. They hold back.
They don't want to be thought odd for talking to
a stranger. They don't know how to help someone else,
they don't know how to do these sorts of things.
And if you say to them, do it for yourself.
I don't know, maybe you might prick their conscience.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I don't know it. That's my attempt.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I just know that for me personally, it gives me
a lot of joy if I can tell that someone
is happy because of something I did, and so I'm not.
I think it's disingenuous to say, well, I did that
for that little old lady because she's a little old lady.
Do things for little old ladies. No, No, I did
(30:57):
that for a little old lady because I empathize with
her situation. She's all alone. She wants to do something
nice for her husband. He's obviously in the sunset moment
of his life. She obviously loves him. She's trying to
give him some joy. She's reached out to the one
person she thinks can do something to help that happen.
And I am that one. Look at me, Look at me,
(31:20):
looking at me, look at me patting myself on the back,
look at me liking the person in the mirror saying,
oh yeah, yeah, you get to do that. It befalls
you in this moment to get to do that. Everybody
has that moment. If you run a business, you've got employees,
you don't have to bankrupt the company, you have to
(31:40):
give everybody one hundred thousand dollars raise. You can literally
at this moment say guys, let's all go to launch
my treat. You can literally tomorrow blow everything off and
say all right, guys, we're stopping at Ace Hardware on
the way. We're getting swim trunks and we're going to
(32:01):
the beach today. We're having a beach day. We're going
to call it. Call it group bonding. Or everybody gets
the day off, or everybody gets a little spot bonus,
or we're having food brought in or fill in the blank.
Every single person can do that. My mom would do
little spot things for us. It's some silly little thing.
(32:24):
It made the world of difference. You know, make your
little cake that you you know, your pound cake or
your bunt cake that you love every person.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Oh well, I don't call if I'm not rich, I don't.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yeah you do, Yeah you do. If it is to be,
it's up to me. There's somebody's life you can make better.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Right now.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
You can call your elderly parent you as a as
a nurse can go in and love on your patient
a little more.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
As a teacher can do.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
As a parent can can call up to the school
and say I'd like to make a report on miss Jenkins,
and the Prince will say, okay, I just want you
to know she's the best teacher ever.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
She did this wonderful thing. Oh my goodness. I love
to do that.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Start with the tone that it's going to be an
insult or a criticism, and say I want this put
in her file. She's wonderful. Oh, just everybody at the
whole school is happy that day. Plus there's doughnuts.
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