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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time, time, luck and load.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
The Michael Verie Show is on the air. Tomas Soule

(00:46):
wrote in Social Justice Fallacies Racial Fallacies.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Some years ago, the politicians in Maryland decided they were
going to raise more revenue by increasing the taxes on
people who had an income of a million dollars a
year or more. But after they did this, the number
of people with incomes of a million dollars or more

(01:15):
in Maryland went down because rich people were not chess pieces.
They moved out of Maryland. Instead of getting one hundred
million in new tax revenue like they predicted, Maryland got
two hundred million less in revenue. During the Reagan administration,

(01:37):
the top tax, if I recall correctly, on the highest earners,
was eighty two percent on your marginal income above a
certain amount. I know you know this. Follow along. We
have a tax process program where the first amount of

(02:01):
money that you make you pay nothing on, and then
we graduate that up on your effective earnings, so after
your write offs and all that sort of stuff. So
the rate of tax you the rate of taxes you
pay on that first amount.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
I don't have the numbers in front of me. Let's
i'll just make it round them.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Let's say it's fifty thousand is nothing, or thirty thousand,
and then fifty thousand, and when you get above, say
two fifty, then those the percentage goes much higher, and
it goes up to I think thirty nine point six.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
But again this is off the top of my head.
I could be way off. I could be off anyway.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
So the marginal dollar you make after a certain amount
of money, let's say once you get to half a
million dollars, every extra dollar you make you give a
higher percentage of to the government. Well, what that tends
to do is create compression in incomes. So a guy

(03:08):
who makes let's say two guys next door to each
other each make five hundred thousand. The guy next door says,
I'm going to take an additional risk, and he gets
a reward. Because there's reward with risk, there's also the
potential of loss. That's the point. So they're both making

(03:28):
five hundred. He takes more risk, works more hours, gives
up more of his time, learns more skills, whatever that
might be. He goes from five hundred to six hundred,
so he makes one hundred more than his neighbor. He
doesn't end up making.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
One hundred more than his neighbor.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
He only makes sixty more than his neighbor because he
has to give up forty of that to the government.
So now you see that the separation is not as
great as it would be. Well, if you're over here
making fifty five thousand, who cares? You got to give
it all up? Okay, how about you give it all up?

(04:08):
How about you give it all up? Why not you
give it all up?

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Because he's rich. What's rich? What's the number that is rich?

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Rich is what somebody else makes, not what you make
by world standards, you're rich. Give a place to live
if you haven't missed a meal. From the looks of it,
you own a vehicle, maybe two, Why why shouldn't you
pay more?

Speaker 2 (04:34):
There are people that are homeless. How about we buy
them a house.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
So this whole idea of schemers in our government sitting
and determining how many dollars they're going to take from you.
The creepy thing about that is they don't understand the

(04:58):
laws of economics. Stremely Reagan administration, the top marginal rate
was i want to say, eighty two percent, And what
they did is they dropped that rate.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
In what they.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Found is, rather than losing money because they didn't tax
money at the rate they were, they increased the money
that the government raised collected. Because when you give people
an incentive to make more money, they will, and so

(05:33):
you need a smaller percentage of it.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
I give you an example. If you're a forty hour
week guy.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
A lot of people that say you might be a welder,
or you work in a in a shop, and you
get an hourly rate, whatever it is mechanics. Let's say
you're getting thirty two dollars an hour at forty hours.
If you get straight time, which means the same amount

(06:01):
that you're making, otherwise, you're tired. They come in on
Friday evening, You're supposed to knock off at five point thirty,
and at about four forty five they come in and go, hey, Jones,
you'd be willing to stay for about four more hours.
The boss has got a project that's got to get
out in the morning.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
You're going to go four.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
More hours added to my forty by the time you
tack now, it's okay, how about time and a half.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Some places will pay double time. Why do you do that?

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Because you've got to give a marginal increase. Somebody's already
tired at forty. They're not sitting around starving in the
street and you go, hey, here's a half eating banana.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
I'll take it.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
So you have to give as a marginal difference in
order to incentivize more than they would make already. That's
why a lot of folks do the time and a
half or double time. I know there are labor laws
and everything that goes into that. I'm talking generally about incentives.
The study of economics is the study of the allocation

(07:09):
of scarce resources. Who will make that allocation? Will it
be the private market or will it be the government.
The problem with government making allocation, which Milton Friedman has
talked about at great length, is that government doesn't know
how to make allocation.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
See.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Government doesn't know how many of us want to watch
the movie Obsession. Government doesn't know how many of us
want a fidget spinner. Government doesn't know that we want
a fidget spinner. And government doesn't know the minute we
don't want a fidget spinner. The only people who who
know that is us. And when we act individually, we
create a collective which becomes incredibly sophisticated, not always rational,

(07:50):
seemingly at least in hindsight. But at the moment, the
government doesn't know how many water burgers we want to eat.
The government doesn't know the moment that we increase our
desire for water birds.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
They don't know the moment that water burger pisces us off.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
I did see yesterday, ramond, I did see yesterday the
water burger on what would that be, Sam Philippi?

Speaker 4 (08:11):
At whatever that is right there? That they had one
nation under God. So I guess the thought is, all right, yeah,
we sold out for smaller meat.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
The bun's not any good purpose.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah, but we put one nation under God bag.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
For journalistic purposes. Okay, hold on that. You got to
stop there.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Have you ever actually read the lyrics to the song?
I wonder how many people have read the lyrics. This
is a talk about social commentary. This was nineteen seventy seven,
Jimmy Carter's first year. We've got the oil crisis, we

(08:57):
got the US in a crisis of confidence. Jimmy Carter's
telling us to turn off our air conditioning in.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
His what a goober?

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Anyway, this song it was written by Peter Yarrow of
Peter Paula Mary and the woman what's her.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Name, Mary McGregor's what's her name?

Speaker 5 (09:19):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (09:20):
What is it? Gosh?

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Dog it Mary McGregor.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yeah, but she's not the Mary of Peter Paula Mary,
that's Mary Travers anyway. So Peter Yarrow writes it. It's
recorded by everybody. Johnny Rodriguez recorded it, Connie Francis recorded it.
I forget who. It's been recorded by a bunch of people.
But if you actually listen to the lyrics, like if

(09:46):
that came out today, you'd go, these kids today, look
at this? Is that all Stanford? Okay, just listen to
it now. I'm not gonna read the lyrics. I'm just
gonna let you listen to it. And I bet you've
never actually listened carefully to the words, and you'll go, whoa, Hey,
all right, Okay, she's dirty, she's a bad person.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
There are times when.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
A woman has to say what's on a line, even
though she knows how much it's gonna hurt. Before I
say another world, let me tell.

Speaker 6 (10:27):
You them, I love you them, Let me all your
goals and say these words as gently as I can.

Speaker 5 (10:40):
There's been another man that I've needed and I've loved it.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Wait what.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
But that doesn't mean I love you.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Those It kind of feels like it does.

Speaker 7 (10:54):
Knows it can't possess meise you never women is or.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
What possessed me?

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Just this.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Suicide? Yeah I know what that's called. Yeah, Betram Juna, Yeah,
I'll tell you what's getting torn up between two lovers.
It's breaking of.

Speaker 5 (11:26):
Dream feel like a fool.

Speaker 6 (11:32):
More than you both, it's breaking.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
This song was subtitled I'm making you my cup.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
You mustn't think you're fa just because the sune else.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Oh yeah, why why would?

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (11:46):
You were the first real Okay.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
So he came first. I mean you've got another one,
but he got first.

Speaker 5 (11:54):
Know the things I ever said, I swear they still
arch well I do for no one else can have
a part of me I gave.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
From what part?

Speaker 6 (12:07):
Was that?

Speaker 7 (12:08):
The locket time between two feelings like a fool.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
You're feeling like a fool. You're feeling like a foof.

Speaker 6 (12:19):
Loving both of you.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
He's breaking all the song.

Speaker 7 (12:25):
Bete too feels like a fool loving your booth's breaking.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
The rules by all the rules.

Speaker 5 (12:38):
I mean, I couldn't really blame you if you turned
and walked away. But with everything I'm feel inside, I'm asking.

Speaker 7 (12:51):
You to sime between two.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
County Judge Lena. This is Houston Chronicle.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Now, Houston Chronicle has now decided that they're going to
call out Lena Hidalgo now that she's got one foot
out the door. Let me tell you why they're doing that.
They're going hard for Letitia Plummer, the Democrat nominee for
County Judge, and they don't want you to go. Wait
a second. You're the people that push Lena Hidalgo on us.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
You're the people who've been promoting Lena and her loniness
over all these years.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
You're not going to tell us who the County judge
is going to be. You're a nut. So now, all
of a sudden, where does this come from? Houston Chronicle.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
County Judge Lena Hidalgo was recorded as being absent from
one thousand, eight hundred and eight motions in twenty twenty
five alone. According to the Chronicles analysis, that's more than
double the combined absences for all four of her colleagues,
and the equivalent of missing one out of every five motions.

(14:06):
So take every motion that the other four miss double that.
So that makes for eight if you think about it,
and she still missed more motions than that.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Huh, wonder what she was doing.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
I mean, some of it was just playing being crazy, right,
looney Ben. Some of it was junkets. She went to
Paris looking for answers the questions that troubled or So
you got to think about this. She's traveled everywhere all
the time on the tax dollars and for what for

(14:47):
what you think she's over there cutting deals for our community.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Great news, We've.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
We've got a new French car Manu facturer coming to
uh what was the one.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Citron?

Speaker 1 (15:06):
We got a new Citron factory coming to Houston. You know,
Lena went over there. They were gonna put it in China,
but now they've decided on Houston because Lena, you know,
she's she's a wheeler dealer.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
That one there, She's a wheeler dealer. That's what she does.
She wheels and deals.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
See if I can find this story there was a reference.
Maybe I can't find it.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Oh, here we are. So she posted this to social media.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
So many of us have put on a brave face
while feeling inexplicably awful inside. Anxiety, depression and other mental
illnesses can be managed, but not if we don't acknowledge them.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Exclamation.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
You gotta acknowledge them everyone. Our second Annual Mental Health
Summit was so helpful and real, was so helpful and real.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
It was real. You can watch the recording at the
link below.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
And then she goes through it. Now here's the problem
with that. This comes This is just at the time
that Joe Biden is talking about. Yeah, Joe Biden was
pooping his pants and following over, but he was doing
the best.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
He can't can't pick on the guy for me. Know,
we sat idly by.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
It's not like you know, she's going through her loniness
and there are no victims to all of this, right,
And Jim reeves instead of Hanks no interesting?

Speaker 2 (16:43):
And then there's such his eyes. Can you see if
you can find Hanks? No, just just to do a
little comparison, you talk me to love, you know, Elvis
did a good cover on it. But we are through.
I am up food. Harden me.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
If I'm sentimental when we say goodbye, don't be with me?

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Should Daryl on the Black Line? You're on Michael Ry Show,
Go ahead, sir? Did I not put it up right,
Darryl Daryl, you there, I won't you do it. Don't

(17:49):
try this at home, folks. Let's see what we got,
all right.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
I put him on hold, Darryl Daryl got the mute on.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Hello. Yeah, say it's working. I literally accidentally hung up
on Darryl though.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah, Daryl must have had mute on.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Cool it's work.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Really, you know what? Cleanse my palate?

Speaker 1 (18:29):
You got that girl that they were called about the
car you to make payments on.

Speaker 8 (18:34):
Y'all come to get the car.

Speaker 7 (18:35):
The car is not here.

Speaker 8 (18:37):
The car is in the shop and one part is
at another shop.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
If y'all wanted that bag, y'all can.

Speaker 8 (18:42):
Go pay that man to get it out and then.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
Pay the person to get the other part out.

Speaker 8 (18:46):
I mean, because I like y'all couldn't be patient. You
knew that we was gonna get it taken.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Care of you.

Speaker 8 (18:51):
So if y'all wanted that bag, y'all can go get it.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
You pay the man and pay the other.

Speaker 8 (18:54):
Man, and we can leave it as that. Because we're
not owing that much on the car. Y'all want to
up on it now that we're only got on a
thousand of two thousand on it. So you know what,
God bless out, y'all can go pick up the car,
so you know what, give me a callback and I
will get you the direction to what I'm in in
and I would let him know that y'all gonna be
paying him to get it out because y'all don't be patient.

(19:16):
We're not rich like y'all.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
That's one thing y'all gonna have to understand.

Speaker 8 (19:19):
But one day this year we will be because we
have Barack Obama.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Man, those were good times, I mean, not the Barack Obama. Darryl, Yeah,
I'm here. What were you doing?

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Man? I ain't just technology sappy, so didn't you? Yeah?
I think so? Hey, But I just wanted to, uh
talk about the Supreme Court requiring the county to stand
up and tell them why they haven't gotten rid of
the person who was sitting on the Harris count A

(20:01):
board and had another state job. And I think it's
a director of Section on Menifee not doing his job
as city as the county attorney.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Interesting, well, min and Fee was groomed by Rodney, and
Rodney was running that whole show right right. I mean,
you know there comes a point, Daryl, when you find
out that a woman running one of the major agencies
in the county is also drawing a paycheck from an

(20:37):
agency in Los Angeles and an agency in Phoenix, Maricopa County.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
And you have written communication.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Emails where she is being told by a company to
which she has just given a big county contract taxpayer dollars,
that she can name her price, how much she wants
to go to work with them, which she's already committed to,
is going you just tell us how much you want
us to pay you like, how gross do you want
to be? And all of that is out there, it's

(21:11):
all documented, and we can't do anything about that.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Is no.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
This is a third world country at that point. At
that point, the only limitation to the graft, corruption, fraud,
and free fall of the nation is how shameful or
how shameless these people are willing to be about it
because there is no there is no stop gap, there
is no backstop, there is nothing to it, there's no
accountability that there won't be any longer.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
And that mechanism for recall.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
You know, recall. To me, those are political answers. I
think there should be legal answers. I think it's criminal. Sure,
I think it's criminal, and I think it should be
prosecuted criminally, and I think that people should go to prison.
I think that if some people start going to prison,
you'll knock this this crap off. The idea of the
political response is, you know, like when a politician gets

(22:01):
caught doing something wrong and they have him dead to rights.
They got video, they got docs, they got everything. They
go part of this settlement is they've agreed to step down.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
No, the plant.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Worker doesn't get to give up his job in exchange
for not paying for murdering somebody.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
What do you do for a living, Daryl.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Well, I'm actually retired now, but I do work in
the green industry as a consultant.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
How old are you? You sound about thirty seven?

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Oh? Man, God bless you, but I'm older than that.
I'm retired. I retired at fifty five, and I you know,
sixty eight? What's sixty eight? Well?

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Black? Don't crack my god.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
It's amazing to me how many black people can call
up here and sound twenty five years younger.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Oh hey, well, you know one other thing. I want
to switch the subject. What about this guy up in Maine,
Latin and his wife stands up for him and says, well,
that was early in our marriage. Well they only got
married in twenty twenty five. The sexting guy.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah, well, my thought is the sexting is you know,
people care about sexting or they don't. But the bigger
issue is the things this guy has said and the
alliances he's made, and the things he would do as
a senator, and those should be very troubling. The problem
is they don't trust that voters would care about that,

(23:25):
so they go to issues where they go, well, you're
at least bothered by this hum mm hmm sexual stuff.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
I've said this for years.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
A guy could go into office, take kickbacks, vote for
China to overtake us, leave our border wide open, refuse
to close it, and nothing will happen to them. But
let them have one affair. Oh they got to go.
It's crazy. Are we are weird that way? We don't
actually care about the functioning of the government, just where

(23:54):
your will? He goes, Well, because that's what the one
thing about.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
About. If I told my wife, look, I need you
to go on radio and tell everybody it was early
in our marriage, and we fixed it since then. Because
when you're early in your marriage. That's when sex is automatic.
You walk in the house, people get naked.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yes, so I think the.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Guy has what happens when body starts slapping from doing
the wild thing?

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Why do black people sound so young? Though? I'm serious,
I really want to, really want to excl you.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Know what it is that I have a god who
keeps me young.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
He's sixty eight, Ramon, does he sound sixty?

Speaker 9 (24:35):
Yeah, Michael Mary he sounds like blackstage.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
You know, Black people playing a lot more games than
white people because we don't have songs like that, right,
Like about people, you know, lying to your face.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
And talking batiment.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
That must be much more of a black person thing,
because there's more black songs for that.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
White people don't have that. We were into flower Power and.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
John Denver and the mountains and the rivers, and they
were like.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Y'all need to stop being two faced. It It's true true, okay, Darryl,
And I was still here. Okay, what are you doing
in the green energy space?

Speaker 3 (25:31):
I hear you?

Speaker 2 (25:32):
What are you doing in green energy? Can you hear me?

Speaker 3 (25:40):
Did I lose you?

Speaker 1 (25:42):
No?

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Can you hear me now? Darryl? Probably no. The mute
wouldn't do it.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Well. I'm making your shill sound bad.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Huh, that's okay. Can you can you hear it now?

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Yeah? Oh, trying to hear you?

Speaker 2 (26:02):
How about now?

Speaker 3 (26:08):
I don't know, Mike. I think I've watched him.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
If I thought I lost somebody after all that trouble,
I'd be cussing and everything. He's so I think I
might have lushed by the way he didn't start with
his age. A black man will tell you their age
like a pilot within fifteen seconds. Mike, I'm sixty eight
years old, Like though, before they give their opinion, like
you know, Minifield there, he's supposed to be, you know,

(26:36):
doing his job and uh and catching the crime and
making sure the laws are filed.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Mike, I'm sixty eight years old. I never seen that.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
But the funny thing about especially black men, is they
will say their age as a you know, that's a
really important part of my point. No matter what the
age is, right, it's just like it's not like you
got to be seventy five to do it.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
We've had people call up the like Mike, Hey.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
I'm fifty three years old and I'm telling you, well,
hold on, what does that mean?

Speaker 2 (27:09):
You're fifty three, but they say it as if you know.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
It's like somebody's talking about whether you can land a
plane on the water, and somebody calls in and goes,
I'm John Sullenberger. Sully, I've landed a plane. Oh okay,
all right, all right, all right, you win. You've got
the background here. But just to say I'm fifty three.
I wonder what happened to Darryl. See now I'll sit
there and wonder what happened to Darryl? And that'll bother me.

(27:35):
There is.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Let's see what I do?

Speaker 3 (27:39):
What I do wrong?

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Did I hit the wrong button?

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (27:41):
There is? Okay, you do it? You know what you
do it. Let's just sit here for a second. Oh,
by the way, what was I tell you? I got
to marginal attachment law? Darryl? What hell that's on? Urr
in Daryl. I'm here to be on your end.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Okay, I wouldn't got that. I give my phone to
my seven year old grandchise. That's what I need them
to do there.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
I'm trying to do a profile here, Okay, okay, we
got to fill out the forms, and I'm actually way
overdue and we're kind of low on black callers to
be completely honest with you. So I'm not gonna lie.
I've artificially chosen you, which we're supposed to do. I'm
at random because I needed on a black callers. So okay,
so you're sixty eight.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Religious affiliation, yes, I love the Lord where all my heart, mind,
and soul?

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Okay? Do you have a church?

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Saves mine?

Speaker 2 (28:39):
The highest level of education achieved?

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Where do you go? Two master's degrees?

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Two masters? What are they in?

Speaker 3 (28:48):
One is in business administration? Together ones in theological studies?

Speaker 5 (28:53):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Where did you do that?

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Methodist theological seminary in Delaware, Ohio?

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Is that a United method.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Yes, sir?

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Okay, all right.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
At that time, I was a non affiliated walking around
with the Bible. I was the only Bible on campus. Really,
that's because you know, the United Medicans is where the
first female ye Biship came So yes, I was learning
a lot of stuff about being non sexist.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
What were you raised?

Speaker 3 (29:28):
I was raised as a Baptist.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Were you raised in Houston?

Speaker 3 (29:32):
No? In Ohio?

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Oh? Where in Ohio?

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Youngstown? Actually a little town called Gerard, which is right
between Youngstown and Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Interesting? What brought you to Houston?

Speaker 3 (29:44):
My dad was an engineer for United States s Feel
and became nineteen eighty he got transferred down and I
called him one day. I said, what's what's going on top?
He said, Man, I'm on the back porch barbecuing, and
in December SAI all right, I got a couple of
things to take care. If I got to graduate school,
then I'm coming. And that's what I did. Oh, got

(30:05):
a wife on the way, and I heard the stirl
that I had been dating in college. I tell her, look,
I'm going to Texas, and uh, you're willing to go,
but I'm not gonna shack. That was my proposal of smooth.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
One that's real smooth. Is she white or black?

Speaker 3 (30:21):
You ware for it? Though? At forty five years now?

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Is she whiter?

Speaker 3 (30:24):
B is she black?

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Y'all got kids?

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Beautiful? Yeah too?

Speaker 2 (30:30):
And what do they do?

Speaker 3 (30:32):
My son is in it and my daughter is a educator.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Oh well, the son that's in it, did you have
do you? Did he develop any interest in that from
you or on his own?

Speaker 4 (30:47):
Well?

Speaker 3 (30:47):
I had him a computer at age six months.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah, so so he came by it. Honestly, very very interesting.
I think people are so interesting their life journey. You
know your dad and engine a black man engineer in
nineteen eighty.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
I bet you there wasn't a thousand.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Black male engineers, well black engineers period in nineteen eighty
in the United States.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
I bet you there wasn't.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Break Yard. You could be right.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
That was That was rare, rare, rare at that time.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
But I come also from a family of professional athletes.
Oh really, from my my uncles, the triplets milk Mel
and Bill were the first two brothers to play in
the NFL.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
My brothers. You mean siblings, huh you mean siblings? Siblings?

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah, what was their last name?

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Triplet t R I P l e T T. Male
played with the Giants and
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